James Baldwin was asking us ‘to grow up’, but ‘we’re still adolescent’
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Despite being written in 1963, the relevancy of James Baldwin’s “The Fire Next Time” is undeniable. It’s comprised of two essays - “My Dungeon Shook: Letters to my Nephew on the One Hundredth Anniversary of the Emancipation” and “Down at the Cross: Letter from a Region of My Mind” - which masterfully explore structural racism, white privilege, and the role of religion in the Black community. Eddie Glaude Jr., author of the award-winning “Begin Again: James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own,” joins Ali Velshi to discuss Baldwin’s frustration with America, as well as his belief that a better future can be had. “In order to become better human beings … we have to confront the ugliness in the world, which means we have to confront ourselves,” Glaude says.
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"I don't believe what you say because I see what you do."
~ James Baldwin (1924-1987), American writer, essayist, novelist, playwright, social critic, and activist.
Thanks for recalling this powerful aphorism 👍👍👍
@@felixmbandandayitabi4536 me too!
It is unlikely that any western people and certainly not the Americans have the moral resources needed to accomplish the deep and mighty transformation which is all that can save them such a transformation involve unimaginable damage to the American ego James Baldwin
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Exactly!😊
Bonjour. I am writing to you from France only due to James Baldwin. I have loved him since I first read his work when I was 14. It was my honor to take his class in college and to write my dissertation about his fiction. It is hard to imagine a world in which everyone does not know the brilliance of James Baldwin. Unfortunately we, as a nation, are still unwilling to pay the price of the ticket. Materialism cannot replace freedom.
You typed, "fiction." Why is that?
@@candyolson2871 because as well as writing non-fiction, eg The Fire Next Time, he wrote novels, ie fiction.
I too discovered James Baldwin at age 15, a white girl in Dallas, TX in 1973. He set the course of my life as an aspring writer and community activist for decades since. I consider him my political and literary father. Contemporary activist could learn SO much from him and his outlook on life.
"Materialism cannot replace freedom." Beautiful. 🤌
so beautifully. Said. I started reading him as a teen also and had the honor of meeting him and getting to know his beautiful family. He was a wonderful human being and his works will outlast all of his detractors and critics. His books ought to be required reading in any lieterature course beginning in high school.
Ali and Eddie and James Baldwin.
You know it's going to be good.
lol
I love watching James Baldwins old debates, interviews, and talks. His sit down with Nikki Giovani is awesome
I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the heads up! 📚✊
Intense. Try reading them aloud if you can, these would the perfect material to read aloud, well, this is my relationship with James Baldwin and how I see him.
@@MyHalcyonDaysAreHere I'll try that
We need more intellectual like Baldwin you see how they waited till the end of Black History Month and not the beginning that’s deliberate
@@gabrielmaroto18 True... I dont know what happened to all the sit downs black leaders used to have on tv. BET used to have townhalls way back when
This was an excellent segment. James Baldwin is more relevant than ever, and you have Eddie Glaude, jr, giving us the best for this short piece.
I'm glad MSNBC has kept your show. May you continue to get the recognition you deserve. 💜✊📚
I didn't read James Baldwin until I went to graduate school a few years ago: he was brilliant, profound, and thought-provoking. His words are as relevant today as they were when he wrote them. Reading Baldwin in 2024 and seeing how far we, as a country, have NOT come, is deeply disturbing, but absolutely necessary.
Baldwin is a wonderful author. No better teacher on race and racism in America than he.
For as long as white America continues to be what Baldwin describes Baldwin will always be quintessential.
Truth! 📚✊
Keep attacking "white America" and you will continue to awaken us to white Identitarianism.
/ex-Democrat
Yeah. Long as it’s what he describes in his delusional fantasy. 😂
@@thorspinkyyou should watch his lecture at Oxford
@@thorspinkywhat a pathetic attempt at gaslighting. If you don't have the intelligence to grasp what Baldwin is talking about...you could've just said that 😂
My first encounter was Another Country. Blew my mind to smithereens and made a lifelong devotee of me. Ravenously, rapaciously, I devoured every single thing he's ever written and spoken, provided they were publicly accessible. What a writer, what a mind, what courage. If Baldwin were white, he'd be revered more than Twain or Melville.
Coming from a Literature/Philosophy background myself, I think you hit a very important mark when you wrote "If Baldwin were white, he'd be revered more than Twain or Melville."
James Baldwin was a visiting professor at UMASS-Amherst in 1983. I took his class.
Wow! That must have been wonderful!!!!
@kimberlyross6688 Yes, and what's even better than that is that 50 or so of us students (white and black, reminiscent of the freedom riders) took a bus trip from Massachusetts down to Mississippi to attend a civil rights conference. When we got back, anybody that had gone on the week- long trip was invited to come up to the lectern and say a few words to the class - James Baldwin's class. I took a turn at the podium, and I cracked a few jokes, and I looked over, and I saw that James Baldwin was laughing. I made James Baldwin laugh.
Baldwin books are national treasures. Navigating life in the 60s and 70s was held together by his work. Always respected and loved.
So, you know, as a student at Howard University between the years of 1975-1979, Baldwin was just 'that dude'. I read so much of his material that I didn't even realize that I was actually becoming a much more intelligent individual as a result of it. Of course, he wasn't the only 'dude' who was spitting fire back then. There were so many. But I think that I gravitated towards him so much because we both had the mind of an artist. He was writer. I was a student of music. We thought and spoke the same language as black 'creatives' during a time of absolute necessity to break the mental chains and to set our minds free. He was my tutor, my elder, my guide to the future that was awaiting me. I became an intelligent individual as a result of his and many other elder leaders. Brother Baldwin was way ahead of his time. He asked a lot of black people, especially the part of forgiving white people. We're still not quite there. And I don't know if we ever will be. But I do believe that the possibility does lie ahead in the hearts of future generations to come. So rest in Peace Brother Baldwin. We just might get there. ❤
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Forgiveness for everyone is choosing to open the door towards loving the life you’ve been given. Too often in America black people have been emotionally abused and misused thus clouding up their vision of the gift that has been God given; life ❤
"The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose."
~ James Baldwin, "The Fire Next Time." (1924-1987), American writer, essayist, novelist, playwright, and social critic, activist.
So happy to see Eddie Glaude. Thank You Ali Velshi for coming along side of Eddie Glaude in reintroducing James Baldwin to a new generation and those of the old one that wish to be mature and stand up for humanity.
A remarkable human. Really brilliant. I first read Baldwin in my HS AP English class. Probably those books would be banned in today’s America. What a pity
Unfortunately they are being banned in the more right-leaning states.
This is excellent.
It's pathetic black victimology.
Thank you for this tribute. I knew with Ali, Eddie and my beloved Baldwin, I would not be disappointed. Thank so much!!
One of my very favourite authors and books. A towering giant of philosophical and creative power.
Thank you for this tribute
So deserved
I need to read “ The Fire Next title “ again
Thank you sir much, I enjoyed the interview
After that, try "The Fire Next Time." Also pretty good.
Velshi you are spectacular! Brilliant conversation!!!
Bravo Ali Velshi, Eddie Glaude, and of James Baldwin. My interest here is somewhat more on the skill of oration, and James Baldwin is simply intense, to reread, even now. I have my sights on Eddie Glaude . . . Thank you..
Great segment, Ali. Keep up the great work.
Eddie S. Glaude Jr. is such a beloved American public intellectual! Grace and brilliance!
…is he?
I agree! 🤗
A "beloved" American public intellectual? By whom?
@@anonymouslakernerd7214 Anyone with a noble heart and mind for compassion one to another...
@@mizz9841references ?
Great segment. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾”You were expected to make peace with mediocrity.” -James Baldwin to his 15 year old nephew. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This brotha always brings pressure!!🔥
Thank you Eddie Glaude Jr. 🖤
James Baldwin is one of my favorite authors. All of his writing is still relevant. ❤
One of my favorite books from James Baldwin. Read this book in the 1970's and still today a powerful book.
Become better human beings. Yes, become better together. Great discussion. And excellent selection. Thank you.
My favorite book of all time. It spoke to me in college in the mid 80’s and I re-read it a couple years ago. Read it!
Humanity Demands Decency
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This is one of the finest conversations I've seen from a news site for way too many years
Professor Glaude. This is so on-time. We MUST look in the mirror...that signifies reckoning time w/ the ego (go within). We must be the change we want to see -
Thank you gentlemen. That was truly amazing and awe inspiring. I’m going to go order a copy of kindle right now. 🙏💕😊🇨🇦
Highly recommend it! It’s a short book but mighty.
@@Trund27a story of a preacher and boys is an old story. Nothing new
Powerful..., thanks for the limelight
Limelight?
Beautiful what a way to end black history month beautiful just beautiful❤
Beautiful??? A preacher who likes boys. Not Beautiful to me
A preacher who likes boys is beautiful to you?
It's an old story of preachers and boys.... that's not a beautiful story
And thank God March is coming soon. February is stupid
@@HANNIBAL-z5hYou’re repulsive because you weren’t taught any better.
Thank you for this. People need
to see this.
Just recently read BEGIN AGAIN. I highly recommend it, as its analysis of Baldwin is fascinating
"Racial justice is not a philanthropic enterprise!" --Dr. Gaude. WOW! Dr. Gaude's statement says so much in so few words!!! I'm keeping that statement for future use, of course, with citation.
C. J. Walker, first Woman Millionaire of her own making in the 1800s. Happy Black History Month!
I can't explain how much I Love James Baldwin ♥️ ❤️ ❤
The fire next time is my favorite work by James Baldwin. It says everything and more. The writing is splendid.
James Baldwin is an American Patriot and a Hero of Humanity.
Eddie Glaude sums up the quintessential meaning of what life is all about…
WE ALL GOT TO BECOME BETTER PEOPLE (some ahelluva lot more than others)
🇺🇸 VOTE BIDEN BLUE 🇺🇸 E PLURIBUS UNUM 🇺🇸
"The betrayal of a belief is not the same thing as ceasing to believe it."
~ James Baldwin (1924-1987),
American writer, essayist, novelist, playwright, and social critic, activist.
Eddie your favourite Burning Spear was awarded a Musical Award.
I heard years ago in interview you mentioned you liked his music. National Award he got.
Baldwin was a visionary, poet & prophet
Truth! He resonates today as much as ever.
Wonderful, wise man. Grateful for your reintroducing us to him. His books taught me much!! Love him still
The "facing death" part really spoke to me. I am afraid to face death and literally try not to. Is that why I sometimes feel empty? Love this show!
beautiful, collaboration, solidarity, community not individuality, selfishness, competition, jealousy and invidious revenge.
Author Baldwin was and is one of the best, wrote through his feelings and his heart, thank U for sharing 🙏🏾
Thank you both for this. You've given me more language and ways to conceptualize my ongoing work with my fellow white Americans. You've also given me more reading!
With gratitude...
I truly like watching Baldwin's videos and reading his works.
Besides reading James Baldwin's important non-fiction, I highly recommend his novels, too. Plus: GOOGLE the interviews & dialogues. One of the last ones was a speech he gave to the NATIONAL PRESS CLUB in 1986 or '87 about a year before his death. He remains profound to this moment, with much food for our minds, hearts & souls.
Reading your book on Baldwin now, Professor Glaude.
the good intentions of humans do not create life. neither can these good intentions sustain life. Humans must accept boundaries.
You need life to create your life-style. Life must come first. Life always deserves the respect of all humans- first.
This is the only style life understands.
Love this discussion
I intend to review this many, many times. Thank you.
Glad to see someone who has been introduced to Baldwin. Learn well.
Truth🙏🏾
Consider Giovanni's Room a Masterwork. A beautiful short novel about an Art and Culture dilettante. The main character is wandering with a group of bohemians in the Fifties post War Paris. When it all starts. There's poetry in the telling and writing, there's beauty in their roaming devenir. It's a novella about Love and Friendship. That have no doubt Baldwin's life part of, taken into fiction. So, based it upon his own reality, surely. The warm feeling of an out of the blue discovery. Of a Europe where he felt much better accepted than in his own country...becomes kind of a nice fog. Through this past his foggy mind rambles. It seems to come back, the waves of a sea that's crowding his eyes of Melancholy drops. This allowed his best feelings to flourish and so, he might lived there the golden years of his life. May this have been the case of a Ben Webster, when playing better than ever. When playing his mellow and deep Saxo in Denmark while living in Amsterdam. The case of so many other living colour guys, might it have been. When feeling and being finally free to work, think. Free to speak their minds a bit everywhere. The Dream of feeling accepted becoming a reality. For isn't this a paradise in itself, for the disadvantaged of luck in any Society as many as the are⁉️ ➖think that also highbrows experience so very often, adaptation difficulties. And this again just for being more talented than their groups and classes. When at School and later. ➖Be them gays or not. We need Minorities to fulfill the Rule. For there would not be a Rule if there weren't Exceptions. In't this truth ⁉️💙😔🙏
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INJECTING >>>>THOUGHTFUL
Great program 👍
Thanks for this.
"Racial justice is not a philanthropic enterprise. It's not a charitable gesture. If we want to be better people, we gotta look ourselves in the mirror." 💯
Why would a white liberal want to read "The Fire Next Time"? Because it's spectacular and challenging and an example of poetic, literary brilliance.
Fire Next Time gave me a high I've been chasing for decades. Nothing like a great book
James Baldwin was one of the great writers of the twentieth century. His prose is like music. Everyone should read him. This video was well worth watching.
Won’t hold my breath that Glaude would take these ‘urgent lessons’ forcefully to his friends on Morning Joe. That’s a panel of talking heads in need of a sharp confrontation with their own bigotry.
One of the great loves I have for reading is because of Baldwin.
Hi👋, Handsomest Men... Men of Truth & Honor.
Mr J. Baldwin hopefully ALL will catch on b4 it's too, late...
just think if:
Mr. Baldwin 🙏
&
Mr Malcolm X 🙏
were still here w/ TODAY... 🤔 all I can say to would be: POWERFUL. R. I. P.
FANTASTIC insight on James Baldwins writings
Honestly, the issue with race relations today is we can’t break the right wing echo chamber; the people watching msnbc ALREADY believe in equal rights for all people, whereas the people watching FOX/alt-right news, NEVER hear about this… it’s like preaching to the choir. As Americans who watch msnbc (and aren’t trolls) we understand, but the people who NEED TO SEE THIS, will never pay attention… it’s sad.
That part
Why is it that some so want to look as a beautiful as Polynesian natives? Truly admiring their looks, which had come about with "mixing." Would that logic give them a clue to show any racists out there that blending accomplishes that "look" much sought after. All people are equal regardless of color or ethnicity. Be an admired bouquet of a variety of flowers... love the differences that can so easily blend together for all to enjoy and admire. It's easy really.
Eddie Glaude is such an Amazing Scholar.
A very sound and thoughtful voice for America
He was such a passionate writer that was able to connect everyone to the global community and especially the American community. He went a step further by being able to stress the struggle of the African American plight in a post slave society, to the most stubborn White Americans to actually listen and contemplate the American sin. Baldwin definitely presented humanity on a platter in expressive, inspirational, in revelations. I love that in regards to White Americans will never understand who they really are, without learning who everyone else is without a dollar being placed on the value of it.
Such a great conversation.
This book woke me up in my early 20’s in the late 90’s
An amazing man, philosopher & author....who stood steady in his witness.
Best Author ever.
Amen!
No, not Amen, Wakanda forever ! (•‿•)
@@MyHalcyonDaysAreHere
That, too! 😊
Thanks for sharing ❤
Powerful
❤ James Baldwin!
I love that MSNBC now highlights the banned books. I make it my mission to buy each and every one of them.
Outstanding! I am also commenting to help this video with the algorithm.
The fire next time should be required reading in high school
James Baldwin is one the greatest artists in history!
"HopeIsTheThingWithFeathersThatFluttersInTheSoulAndSingsTheSongWithoutTheWordsThatNeverStopAtAll.
James Baldwin the GOAT
Baldwin was an excellent debater.
Fantastic
"I'm looking at the man in the mirror. I'm asking him to change his ways. No message could have been any clearer: if you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a...change" - Michael Jackson
Really appreciate Eddie G .He is brilliant
I don't even have the resources to _do something for_ Black people, even if I wanted to. But I can _participate in_ the effort to educate everyone in my sphere of influence about the issues that Black people face.
Oh my. Excellent content. ✌️
Another country by Baldwin makes the same case more powerfully I think
I agree. Calling your adult children my baby is part of it.
My adult daughter is my daughter not mt child or my baby.
James Baldwin writings were influenced by his friend's in the Civil Rights movement and subsequently their death's.
Medgar Evers, Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Balwin ventured into the new areas with his work on the autobiographical of Malcolm X. Spike Lee used his work for his film Malcolm X.
Maya Angelou:
"We delight in the beauty of the butterfly 🦋 but rarely admit the changes it has gone through to achieve that beauty."
He was everything
Baldwin and Ruffin two courageous African-American freedom, liberation, and civil rights martyrs who happen to identify as Homosexual oriented men help advance justice in the " belly of the beast", America.
Nice show
Gone too soon! ❤