I agree that Rick Beato's takes are very biased by his history. The means of musical production are in the hands of more people. If music is worse it's due to either it not being promoted, or not being created at all, and it's quite obvious that the music industry promotes fewer artists. In addition, I would like to ad a point I RARELY if ever see: housing prices got too expensive for most musicians decades ago, and therefore the demise of bands rehearsing is because the space is too valuable, outside their budget. Boomers consciously "know" that that is happening, but they act as if it's not the reality. Back in the 60s through to the early 90s housing was quite affordable and musicians sharing rooms in a house were much more common, as were rehearsal spaces etc. If you're doing electronic music, that's not really a problem as you can just do it in your apartment (which many people are struggling to afford to rent recently). Anyways, good video.
Well, I'm not quite as old as Rick, but I'm pretty old and I am a drum teacher. The thing about kids not practicing is pretty true. But I do have a handful of my students who practice at home and those kids always sound the best obviously. I think one of the main problems is a lot of kids are not being exposed to music the right way largely due to social media. As far as amp modeling, to me this is the absolute best way to record guitars. There's absolutely no need to use an amp in a studio. Modeling technology sounds the best by far. For drums, I do somewhat agree that as soon as you quantize you're using a drum machine, but some songs call for a drum machine, so that's not always bad. As a fellow RUclipsr, this video was a clever way to reach a lot of people through your channel. Also, as a fellow RUclipsr, my advice to you is do not let the success of this video sidetrack you from your real goal of creating music (if that is your real goal). Don't let algorithms dictate your creative flow.
I understand what Rick is saying about it being too easy. I believe he meant learning from your limitations. My first few recording sessions were done with a Peavey Classic 30, Ibanez Fat Cat distortion, mic'ed up to a 6 channel mixing board straight to a reel-to-reel. No dubs, no splicing, no copy-paste. What you play is what you get. You gotta experiment to find the perfect sound with what you have and then get everyone to hit their take perfectly or start over and play it again. One song could take all day just to get the perfect take. If we had protools back then we could have done the whole album in a day or two instead of weeks
I get what you are saying about plugins and having access to amps for experimentation. I believe what Rick was trying to get at is that when you don't have access to all that, you have no choice but to be creative with what you have. Sometimes limiting yourself opens you up much more creativity.
I come from nearly Rick's generation, but still an old git at 50. There is a lot I agree with Rick on - mic'ing amps takes skill, playing instruments takes another skill to do.. I think what Rick forgets is that modern musicians, not just "kids" as he sees them, have to do all the recording, playing, engineering, mixing and mastering. And we havent even talked about promoting the finished product. I think there is something for playing nearly in one take (people used to "punch in" back in the late 60s onwards, if they made a mistake). It adds a small random element which pricks the ear. Rick forgets The Beatles, The Who, etc didnt know music theory. You make a lot of good points.
I don't know dude, it sounds pretty good to me. Writing better songs is the big challenge. I spend more time writing songs personally. If you write more songs your production skills get better, you will eventually get bored of the first chords you learn on guitar. I write constantly. Most of it is shit. But if you work on Finishing songs. You will definitely learn a lot along the way. The tools you use don't matter. Finishing songs matters. (BTW I am older than dirt.)
For someone who didn't spend 60+ years listening to classic rock, and 50+ years learning how to make classic rock, like Rick Beato and, well, me, you did pretty well! Probably about as well as I could when I was 20, which what I'm guessing you are. I un-subbed from Mr Beato, not because I don't think he's super talented and knowledgeable (he is), but I just got tired of his shtick. I got tired of him patting himself on the back for knowing "all the chords" and when a chord doesn't fit in the key, then it must be a "borrowed chord." 🙄 In fact I'm tired of music being a defacto collection of chord changes.I much prefer thinking in terms of melody, harmony, counterpoint, and not a bunch of f-ing chords in predictable patterns, Anyway, you know who didn't have multi-track recording? Les F-ing Paul until he pretty much invented it in the 50s. The F-ing Beatles recorded Sgt. Pepper's on 4-track machines (yes, 2 of them sync'd up). And they pretty much invented reverse tape and flanging, and a dozen odd other techniques. I personally don't like real amps or amp sims all that much. I listen to my guitar usually through my pedals and a cheap audio interface. Yeah, I used to have an awesome amp, and have played through most of the great amps at one time or another, but I don't GAF about amps or sims because I still have most of my hearing, and I have taste, and a knowledge of how to make sounds. I'd rather be inventive like the people we now try to reduce to a bunch of samples or plugins. I don't spend money on any of that beyond Logic Pro. I have more free plugins than I'll ever bother to use, and a pretty respectable collection of boutique and cheapo pedals. So, I'm rambling, which is what old people do. 🤣I'll stop. Oh, and I don't care what Wikipedia says; people born after 1960 are X-ers. ☮ out! 👽👍
i think rick did something good though, he started a conversation about it. Honestly because of rick i think people now feel less insecure about the modern way of making music because of all the backlash he got
I have a love/hate relationship with Rick Beato as well. When he's breaking down a part or going technical, it's useful. The 'kids these days' and 'music these days' bits are dull. Plenty of great music on Bandcamp and Bumblebee Radio if you are willing to 'do the work' and seek it out. You know, like when he was a kid? There has always been shitty pop music in his lifetime but that gets zero attention. I hit subscribe. You're interesting.
As a 72 yr old boomer myself, I can see both sides. I enjoy certain types of music for both listening and playing, but most importantly I do it for myself. I am impressed with your presentation and am now a subscriber, as I have been watching Rick for many years. Best of luck with your music and presentations. It will be fun to see your progression so stay in touch. This is a great video.
Your video was suggested to me. Very good points. I’m a fan of Rick’s videos but his thing often is “Music today sucks because people don’t know music theory, by the way if you wanna learn music theory buy my book”. 😂
No its more about grabbing a canned pre conceived chord or melody doesn't necessarily make you smarter or better ..... it makes you less connected to where music often come from ... from within you.... the expressive part. I little mistake can be very interesting a perfect quantized part is boring often times because its not human.
things are getting "too easy" in that you can throw shit together and move onto the mixing / mastering phase before you actually take the time to develop your musical ideas. there's all kinds of ways to counter this if you want to, but the net effect on music is that the industry favors people who focus more on their branding and image than actually spending time to have a musical identity. rick beato is still kinda wrong, but he's the most wrong when you take his arguments in the most superficial and discharitable way possible.
this actually makes some sense and I can understand how it would have that effect. sometimes it seems like rick gets too caught up in theory and the technical stuff so that is, for me, where a lot of it comes from but i can definitely get what youre saying.
Rick Beato usually has good points, but his way of presenting it got way too much worse than he used to do. Trent mentioned not being ragebait but kinda is, the problem is that Rick started doing that as every RUclipsr did for easy engagement but like many other he lost the plot on it.
That would be a really good take if it was somehow true. But the reality is that at the end people always favours good music, no matter how attractive your branding and image is. There is no way to trick people's ears with image alone. That's why "industry plants" never succeed. Also, making music has always been easy to make. You can literally make music with anything. There are several famous songs and artists that became famous with only a guitar and their voice. Most only need their voice. Some only write songs. And when it comes to aspects of production like mixing an engineering those are non-essential when it comes to making music. They only matter for distributing music. What happens is that Rick suffers from survivor bias when it comes to "good music". He always complains about the top ten Spotify and ITunes lists, because he keeps comparing them to the classics, but if he takes the time to listen to the top ten lists from billboard with all the rest of the songs where those classic songs came from, he will discover the piles and piles of dogshit music with cheese tunes and gimmicky rhythms. Rick Beato is wrong precisely because it was a superficial and brainless take.
@@MrPipol-nm3cd The artist themselves don't have to be the ones supplying the music. That's why the industry is so focused on solo artists. They have their "singer" or "artist," and just license all the music off of someone who will in all likelihood be nameless backup for the rest of their lives. Those truly essential aspects as you called them, can be gotten cheaper because until they're a household name, they have no leverage. It benefits the fuck out of the record companies that solo artists with a low investment in music are the heroes of the day, because it means the people who focus on music have no power. You don't actually think doing something other than singing and strumming guitar has no advantage. You're playing dumb about the cost of recording music as it culturally exists. Have a backbone if you decide to respond, next time.
@@onlinescammer8291 The industry focuses in solo artists because solo artists are often the ones with more talent. And the industry is driven by the audience. Even music bands and rap groups have a leader that stands out because they are the creative drive for the band. And they definitely have leverage. It happens that some did not got proper legal advice when signing for a label. Those who decide to be on the background do it because their artistic needs do not require them to be on the front. Is a personal choice. Those are music composers, music producers, music writers, engineers, musicians, etc. Also, I don't see how solo artists that produce their own music can benefit record labels. Most artists today produce and distribute their own music by their own means, from Jacob Collier to Kendrick Lamar. They don't need a label because they are their own label. The two most listened artist on earth, Taylor Swift and Bad Bunny are owners of their own recordings. Bad Bunny was more clever than Taylor: He funded his own label to produce himself form the very beginning. I didn't get your last paragraph. It makes no sense. Making music, and producing and distributing music are two different areas of music industry.
Yeah, totally agree on at least a few of these points. Like the amp stuff. Amps are expensive, and people don't all live in suburban homes with garages like he did when he grew up, when you live in a city apartment you need to be able to play stuff with headphones (silently). Having giant energy-consuming amps is, well when you need to go loud.
You have moments where you present good counterarguments to Rick, but in the end you sort of prove his point a little bit by using all of the tools he railed against, then making a very amateur-ish sounding song with it.
I think you're points are valid. You have a great perspective from someone who is young in the business and doesn't have much money. However, I think Rick still makes a lot of great points as well. My understanding is that Rick is talking about the multi-billion dollar businesses that are using simple basic beats all of the time, and that it's disappointing that companies/people in position to inovate choose not to. Therefore, all music is just sounding too similar and it's boring. Taylor Swift is the prime example. Every album when she started were different from each other. But for the past several albums all of them sound the same. She could inovate like she used to, but chooses not to. And instead is just adding to the collection of saturated music. That's why she can throw out 50 songs in a year. ....But it works. We all understand it makes money. It's just disappointing.
if he’s mostly aiming his critique at the mainstream music industry, why does he complain that kids don’t care about music? i dont think many kids are involved in the multi billion dollar music industry. Thank you though!
I've said this before and I'm gonna keep saying it. If you're tired of however you feel music has changed or gotten worse, either from a general musical standpoint or the business of music, make some goddamn music that reflects your tastes and what you feel is missing/needed. Fuck the old head bullshit. Some younger cats even embody the old head stereotype. I used to as well, but it was really more of an identity thing, being young and disenfranchised. I'm glad I was that way because it allowed me to learn a lot of things I wouldn't have otherwise learned if I was just tuned into what was popular around me but eventually you're supposed to lose that ignorant mindset because overall its unproductive as fuck. Not coming at you OP BTW
@@nevedofficial466 it means the problem isn't that people aren't making interesting music. you implied a supply problem by suggesting the solution is just getting out there and making the music you want to see influencing culture.
No need to go hard on people. Everything that happens in your life has been called from you and is here to show the way(s) for you to pave you own path towards advancing you understanding of music. Same goes for everyone. Keep making music and you will find out that what you actually do is reproducing life.
I'll give to you that RIck failed miserably to get his points across in that video... But that doesn't mean his points are not valid. For instance, you said something along the lines of "I listen to a ton of old music, I would have to buy 100 albums to listen to all of that"... The point was that *you weren't supposed to have access to all that music at all*: "Back in my day" we used to have to tape record music of the radio, go to stores and preview records of the bands we knew we liked or where within that genre, tape those records and trade tapes with friends, which was how we discovered new bands. There was this entire social aspect driven by scarcity that instilled in us a certain band/genre loyalty... This is the reason why, for instance, punks and metalheads started wearing band t-shirts, band patches on their jackets, and some even tattooing band names and logos onto themselves. And, IMO, this is what made music into the cornerstone of Western culture: It really did bring people together, going to concerts was the most important thing in a young person's life right after relationships and sex.
WHY DOES MUSIC HAVE TO BE SCARCE??? i wanna listen to whatever i want man :( as for the social aspect, people share song links in DMs and texts all the time. the “PASS THE AUX” memes are accurate, when driving with friends people trade/queue songs. Spotify even has a feature called “Jam” for this very purpose people still wear shirts, even classic ones like joy division and nirvana. also obviously new musicians as well, you just are probably unaware of what they are since you are unfamiliar to the artists
@@trentjisung It doesn't dude. Nothing really has to be scarce at all. It's just that... Like it or not, scarcity induces struggle, struggle induces meaning. This applies not only to music but life in general, you know? This doesn't mean scarcity is the only way to give meaning to things... Hell, I've found out about a tone bands I love (King Gizzard, 100gecs, Death Grips, all of the Vapor and Synthwave shiit, etc) thanks to the almighty algorithm, well after "scarcity" stopped being a thing ... But the reason why I bonded with them is because they made me actually **feel**... You know? Furthermore, I just wanted you to know that I found it funny when you said "oh there's a ton of variation in trap beats", and then proceeded to list a bunch of ways in how different trap beats are different... Rest assured: I'm not trying to come across as being condescending, I take your word for it and I totally believe you when you say there's a world of difference between different trap genres, It's just that I don't really vibe with trap in general and thus all trap sounds kind of like the same to me... And that's the joke: I feel like I'm becoming just like my dad, unable to tell the *obvious* difference between thrash metal, black metal, doom metal and punk: "it all sounds like shit to me!!".... Oh well. Finally, if you ever wanna produce boomer oriented tracks, don't let the lack of gear get you down: Just play Garage Rock. we love that shit and all you really need is a room mic to capture the "band"... In other words, make a basic beat and a basseline, play it back to provide th foundation to your basic ass guitar riffs, and record the result using a single room mic: Your grandma will love you for it.
You just keep on doing what you do remembering, first and foremost, it's because it gives you pleasure. If anyone else likes it too then it's a bonus. Great video by the way.
I think you both have a point. And I actually don't think you are one of the "kids" Rick was talking about. I mean the music you presented here sounds fantastic. You really put the effort in.
People who make videos like this simply don't get the point. Just accept the fact that the majority of mainstream music has gotten progressively worse and more mediocre through out the years. Nowadays you see entire teams of like 9 songwriters for most pop "icons" that just end straight up copying older songs or writing some of the most uninspired (basic) songs and call it a day, why? Because they know the average consumer, who are mostly people who don't have any type of musical knowledge just don't care and are basically deaf when it comes to music. It's not that hard to understand.
spoiler: the average consumer has never had any clue as to how music works also people have been copying older songs since music was invented and if you disagree, you are mistaken.
@@trentjisung Being influenced by something or someone is not the same as straight up copying other people’s work. I know you’re just a kid and that’s most likely why you take an objective opinion as some kind of personal attack, hence the “zommer vs boomer” thing. No one’s talking about you, you can be of whatever generation and make great music. And again, you miss the point, the average music consumer doesn’t see any value on music beyond being this background ambient noise, that’s why you can use the same chord progression over and over and people wouldn’t even notice or even care even if you told them, music has lost a lot of its value, maybe when you’re older you’ll understand.
@@trentjisunghave CEOs been hiring a panel of songwriters to ensure none of their material veers from the current meta since music was invented, or can you at least concede that it's something new and cynical about music today? has tastemaking been offloaded to social media and streaming algorithms since the beginning of time? have the revenue streams for musicians been shrinking into nothingness, with the music itself being being basically unmonetizable, to live music collapsing, to merch sales being a desperate saturated market from the beginning of time? or is these new developments that massively disincentivize risk taking and individuality in music?
Yes. Music used to be much deeper. Look at these lyrics for an example of amazing old music: Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop (pop) Bobom, bom, bom Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop (pop) Bobom, bom, bom Call my baby lollipop Tell you why His kiss is sweeter than an apple pie And when he does his shaky rockin' dance Man, i haven't got a chance I call him Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop (pop) Sweeter than candy on a stick Huckleberry, cherry or lime If you had a choice he'd be your pick But lolipop is mine Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop (pop) Bobom, bom, bom Crazy way he thrills me Tell you why Just like a lightning from the sky He loves to kiss me till i can't see straight Gee, my lolipop is great I call him Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop (pop) Bobom, bom, bom Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop, lolipop Oh, loli, loli, loli Lolipop Oh lolipop
@@bsgconsulting 30 years ago Daft Punk wrote a song that only says "Around the world, around the world." It was still more creative and divergent than the zeitgeist today. It isn't musician's fault. There's basically nothing they can do to stop creative works from being vulgarized by music streaming to be ignorable playlist fodder and by social media to be background sludge.
Well I have to admit enjoy many of Rick Beato's videos, however I enjoyed this video as well. You seem very talented from the videos I checked out. I really liked the slide guitar too. I'm 58 and open to anything new, however it is more challenging to find than it was in the past at least to me. By the way a little off topic I love the music in the game Skyrim.
Beato is putting forward a disingenuous narrative for the clicks in the failed guise of reconciling the fact that popular music is no longer his music. But who cares he can yell at clouds all he wants its not changing anything as he is losing his cultural cache. The more important thing here is you Trent. This video is amazing and shows such promise, well done. You are going to be a great addition to the RUclips stars of the future. Well done and keep it up!
thank you so much!!!!! i will say the reason that i care so much about what he says is that to me, its very dismissive of kids today who actually make and love music simply because it isnt in the way that rick did when he was younger. but again, thank you for the kind words!!
Yeah man, keen to see where you take your channel as you figure out your thing on here. And not to beat a dead horse but Rick's entire argument is laaaaaaaaame to me, Check this out, music as we know it literally started after world war 2 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_multitrack_recording ) when the German's figured out hi fidelity recording to tape in 1943. Rick was born in 1962, 19 years after the literal invention of recording music in a way that didn't sound like crap and could be edited as it was on tape. So he used the technology of his time. I think he makes the mistake of thinking the way he grew up with music is the way music is meant to be. I think there are a lot more interesting questions that could be leaned into, instead of his lame viewpoint. That being said I do watch his videos and do enjoy them.
@@WhatWhat-2 that is true, i never considered how early we truly are in terms of modern music, especially in rick’s case. i watch some of his educational videos as well but half the time he seems to be ranting about Spotify and billboard charts…
You're proving Rick's point. If you had been a musician in the 70's, 80's or 90's, you would not have had the tools to do a decent recording let alone have access to or survive in a recording studio. The technology has made it way easier and cheaper to produce music. How do you think it was for young musicians back in the day? Owning a Mellotron? Forget it! Those were only available to the happy few with big record deals. Btw. Your kicks are rushing, your breaks are sloppy and your guitars are not in tune.
Rick's first point (and it was in line with the context of the video being about the technological history of music) was about how easy the tech makes things now to record music. But his tutorials are pretty much all about music theory. These are two different things., so there's no irony there.
I think him thinking things are getting too easy is an easy way out. There's so many creative things you can do with the tech that's coming out these days, I mean, not everyone has access to every kind of hardware you want to use
Hey first I want to say good job on the video, here for the grind man, but I think there's a lot of twisting of the points rick is trying to make across. For reference, I'm not some old dude making videos with thousands of views. I'm a young musician who gets no views lmao. When rick is saying music is getting too easy, that doesn't mean hard= good. It means that the threshold of knowledge to be able to make just a decent song is way harder. Someone with almost no real knowledge of music can open up their DAW and with the right VSTs midi, plugins, and A.I. actually make a full song that's not completely bad. Even just 10-20 years ago, that just wasn't happening. The connection rick is trying to make is that 1. the music industry is bloated with so much mediocre music because too many people have the access to just make a song at a click of a button. 2. Most of the people making music don't have an incentive to become more knowledgeable because the problem is solved for them. If you're relying on technology to make music, then your limitations only cap to about the same level where the technology is. If you understand the knowledge behind it, the only limitations you have are set by yourself. Innovations propers due to people experimenting with the knowledge they built up. Music as a whole will lose that quality the more reliant on ease of access it becomes. Again, rick isn't saying "complex" chords = better music. Mostly because I'm sure rick knows that chords are equal. There are no "complex" chords, it's all about context, but there are cliche progressions, but no chords are "simple" or "complex". It comes down to a knowledge thing. The keyword is to what you said, "learn some guitar on a basic level". With a midi chord pack, even that "basic" level of learning becomes useless. I think the amp take highlights a lot of the issues people have with the rick video. You're consuming his take as if he's saying it's bad that you use amp plugins. Rick isn't giving his opinion on whether emulated amps are bad, he's giving he's using it to showcase the difference in access that people have now. When he says it doesn't allow for creativity, I assume he means from "limitation drives innovation" standpoint. As point to the fact, you'd never have all of those amps without the plugin, if you had money to get just one amp, you'd have to become creative in order to take it the full mileage and get different sounds out of it. In the same way how when you were a little boy, if you didn't have expensive toys, you can take a stick and turn it into a sword and get a lot of mileage out of it. I think there's a point on both sides in the since there's things creatively technology can let you do that's never possible in the real world. Rick isn't telling you to go out and buy a whole bunch of vinyls and saying it's bad if you don't, he's more or less just giving what he thinks is a consequence of having access to Spotify. The biggest thing I think people need to be careful of is understanding the difference between saying directly "This is bad" and saying "I think the cause and effect for this action is this consequence". I can see how it can be confusing, but If I told you I feel like because music is accessible, it's way harder to make money from music, that doesn't mean I think accessibility for music is bad, but I think the consequence of the accessibility might make fact jobs might be harder to find. The same thing with the drums argument. Rick isn't making a harder = better argument, he's just stating the fact of it being harder to record and you're interpreting him as meaning that it's better. Overall, I think the takes on both this and the Fantano video generally miss the point of the video rick made. The overall point of rick's video is that music is really easy to make which doesn't drive incentive for people to make great music, then he goes about showing different ways on how music is easier to make today. He's not making a "these things are bad point", but "things used to be harder", which you can't really argue. An actual rebuttal to rick's video would be one that argues that it's about the same or harder to make music today vs back then. I know my comment is overkill, I feel strong about the topic. Hope you have great success with your channel and music and know this comment isn't an attack.
well my main problem with him saying music is too easy to make which is supposedly the cause of so much lazy/uninspired music, is that rick is one of the biggest music educators. as for twisting his words, imo its more that rick represented his argument in a very confusing way, including an overview of music history as well as using a sink to represent music streams i get a lot of what youre saying but ill stand on the amp thing. i get the limitation breeds creativity thing, but cmon, theres like 5 knobs total on basically every amp. unless i am missing something, you can really only EQ, add gain, or move the mic away from the amp. drums are a bit different cause theres a lot going on so i can kinda get that. like i said, i was gonna make an equally confusing video so maybe rick and I both didnt represent our points well; i figured might as well learn something with it
@@trentjisung When rick is saying music is too easy, I don't he's trashing on the availability of the knowledge. Even if the knowledge is more accessible, people still got to put in the work to learn. It's more or less directed at the fact, I can put my friend who knows nothing about music and with a chord pack, sequencers, and the right plugins, he can actually make something that's not completely bad. That was IMPOSSIBLE even just 20 years ago. It's like how someone with no animation experience can use A.I. now to make animations that aren't completely terrible. That type of accessibility doesn't give an incentive people to learn the skills. I don't think you were intentionally twisting his words. I do think it's easy to kind of navigate your head to a worst scenario from a polarizing point. If I went up to someone and said, "I know more theory than you"(which I wouldn't really ever do). That person might hear "I'm a better musician than you" vs taking the words I said at face value. I hadn't said anything about skills of musicianship, but I'm solely talking about theory. You shouldn't be responding about why you think you're a better musician. You need to be responding on why you know more theory if you intend to argue my statement. Usually when it comes to things we're passionate about, the emotions kind of make us get ahead of ourselves. Cool man, stand on the amp thing. I was just explaining what I thought was rick's side, I didn't necessarily agree with him on this. Like I said great video, I really like the beat you made, and it's brave of you to put your opinion on the internet full of not so nice guys who'd maybe say not the greatest things.
@prodtrentjisung I believe that the point Beato fail to pass on is that music being abundant kinda makes it disposable. What I think he is trying to say is that when you only had a new album to listen to each month,, you either listened to it deeply, or you went back to the few others ones you had, so the theory is that the few music you had became much more meening ful. Nowadays, you give a track 5 sec to decide if you like it or not, and if not you have all the music in history to listen to, which means you spend much less time on each song, but you even feel the urge to swipe to listen to all that is at your fingertips. A while ago, some people introduced the concept of slow listening, which is a sort of musical analog to the slow food movement. To summarize the idea, it's just "less but deeper", you artificially limit the amount of music you have access to, but when you listen to it, you don't do anything at the same time and listen to the whole project in one sitting without skipping. I don't think that a concept is better than the other, each person can decide what works better for them, but it is important to know that there are drawbacks to abundance.
The abundance of music only makes good music better. It is not more disposable, but the opposite: It makes talented artists shine brighter and the easy access to production tools allows talented artists to distribute their music easier, cheaper and to a wider audience. The fact is that music is not more "meaningful" because it cost you more money to get a record. That only means you had less access to quality music so you had to conform. You had to cope with a dogshit album because the store clerk scammed you into buying a rob & fab album. It ruins and limits your musical taste to the size of your pocket.
I always agree with Rick, sometimes partially, even been young, but when i watched this video i really though that he was only trolling, the whole video feels like a joke lol
i like his engineering videos but in the one I talked about, he turns his sink on and off to represent Spotify and uses an eyedropper to simulate streams. I thought that was pretty funny
I don't think he's aiming at creatives or hobbyists. Perhaps a little closer to artists like Taylor Swift, who has the attention of the entire world and releases Fortnight that quite literally repeats C D Bm Em for four minutes.
Why would the most successful country artists in history change her formula? I don't disagree that her music is extremely boring, but the idea that someone that is so imminently successful would switch things up is absolutely laughable
@@ATSaale Well, maybe she is more interesting than what she presents but decide to keep it like that for the money. As you said, it is what is expected, but shows that either she doesn't have a spine or is a very shallow and boring person.
Valiant attempt at criticism, good insight into your production process, but I think Rick is still ultimately right. Music is a poor imitation of what it once was. Given the advances of technology, the saturation of music into the market and the sheer ubiquity of sound - think gyms, headphones everywhere, cafes, bars, cars - the value has shifted from the core of the music itself to content, speed of production, cheapness and the celebrity around the product. The way we consume music is an interesting one. It is literally background noise. Think about how often you listen to music, not as the object itself, but as a secondary or an adjuct to some other task you are doing (walking, shopping, exercise, driving, cooking, studying, scrolling through your phone, working)...this would have been unheard to a very large extent before the era of headphones, ipods, spotfies etc. It inherently devalues the product whereby a simple pulse - rather than rhythm - is all that is reuqired, i.e., your trap musif examples. Background music does not demand complex rhythms or ideas, only simple, repetitive loops - thus it's easily consumed, and easily produced, which lowers the marginal costs, but boosts the profits. Like most art, as music becomes more and more democraticsed, meaning it reaches a wider audience, it moves from the complex to the simple, from Bach to the Beatles, from counter point with 5 voices, to 3 harmonic changes and a static melody line. Similar with literature/books, Shakespear to Harry Potter...this is not to say that complex interesting ideas are not out there, it is just to say that the locus of musical focus is with the simple, the simple, repetitive music with the monotone melody and repetitive beat is the rule not the exception. Here is this devaluing, race to the bottom in music. And finally, as technology and a market advances, it becomes harder and harder to differentiate oneself, leading to bizarre self parody. It happened in the art world, where artists began displaying urinals (Duchamp), splashing random spirals and dashes of paint on a canvasing and calling it profound (Pollock). All this in a bid to push boundaries, becoming parodic because, apparently, everything had been said before. It's there in music in the trap and rap stuff, no singing, no harmony, dull spoken voices, the same crude offensive language called edgy, discussing "W.A.P", all these examples of an industry putting a premium on shock value, clickbait music, more a joke /sneer - like Duchamp did with his urinal - than actual musicality. Once again, devaluing music.
Ricks point is that you don't know what you don't know yet. The way things are going you very well might not learn what you can to be a better song writer composer performer and recording artist because more and more is being done for you...when you hear people say " its easier this way or you don't have to know how it will do it for you" its a sign that people are being taking out of the process. The humanism is disappearing. Today because things are more automated or generated for you in music you loose the opportunity to learn things because it is out of sight out of mind. He's not saying that what your doing is wrong ... he's more upset because how things are being now you will learn less of what made music great. Often times the great music comes from overcoming things that were a hurdle. The was more individuality on the playlists. There was more dynamics. Its becoming too homogenized. Many people have less of an understanding of music because often times it is just background now! His point was that because music was less accessible it was valued more. You spent more time with it... You interacted with it and because of that you paid more attention to it. You read the notes .. You looked at the photos etc in order to connect with the artist.... You just had more time with it so it meant more... Keep making what you make but don't cut out his experience it is invaluable. He often points out these things not because he thinks its necessary in order for it to be good... He point them out because they do make a difference and to not settle because its easier... Strive to make music how you can but never stop seeking for the things that make it better in quality and by all means the journey you take and hurdles you over come to make it are often more important to you as an artist because you can own that. It gives you experience and understanding your journey. Stay engaged with ever aspect. Break a leg kid!
Omg people here are so mean wth, your points are 100% valid. Most of what beato said is it’s easy to do music so now its bad, and he’s criticizing people themselves for using tools that exists instead of criticizing the industry for doing that, but that would get us nowhere. It’s more accessible and that’s a good thing sure there’s more shitty music, but there’s also more good music. The problem comes from what the industry promotes and that is not on us, but the greedy part of the music industry. So really rick is saying nothing. Ofc id love to have access to a full studio drum with mics, but i dont. I still want to compose and i wont wait around being older and having more money gotta put some practice in
eh idc about other comments, when you have opinions on the internet you gotta except different takes its good that you dont let limitations stop you though!
The "kids these days don't practice" was such a dogshit take. He appealed to the most dumb anecdotal fallacy. Only because his friend does not see kids practicing does not mean kids are not practicing music. Just let look at the stats of those music tutorials. They get millions of views. Then let's look at the artists: JD and Domi, Tim Henson, Juya Shin, Benjamin Grosvenor, Sunga Jung, Jan Lisicki, Metro Boomin, Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, Sam Smith, Lorde, Daya and so on. Multi award-winning artists who are extremely young under 33 years old. We are living the times of musical geniuses like Jacob Collier, Fred Again, and Finneas O'connell and Billie Eilish. Music, like any other art skill requires that the person has an interest for it. And only 10% of the population in any part of the world has an interested for either music, painting, or writing. It is like that today, and it was like that way back in the day too. Theres is not any more or any less interest for music.
@@onlinescammer8291 Yeah, they sure don't practice. 🤣That's why rehearsal don't exists, right? All successful artists you know practice every day to hone their skills. It's their job to make music.
@@MrPipol-nm3cd fuck no. why the fuck are they gonna make sure their chops are there? you think billie eilish is belting it out when she goes on tour. what would be the point, for what she's doing?
Making Music is TOO easy because we have great teachers like Rick making it easy for us lol. I mean. complaining about NOT paying dues haas nothing to do with generation but with the accessibility. Rick ia great but to be honest, Thats a fruit of labor he created the space us young to make music easier due to his experience e so we have our own problems. (ai) so its all about how its used. Cause the end user is listener.
I've watched some of his vids and all I saw was an old has been trying to stay relevant. As with all of these old-timers in the music industry, it's time to retire Grandpa you're just making yourself look foolish.
People shitting their pants from Rick Beato but he is a very closed-minded snob who has zero songwriting credits. I don't mean to trash him but I was exactly the same as him, that "music should be complex and interesting and pop music is shit because they only use simple chords"... Then I started to analyze and write pop songs and realized how wrong I was. Keep in mind, he is trashing highly successful songwriters while he has literally ZERO songwriting credits! He never ever wrote a song, yet he is stating things about chord progressions and melodies - things that are completely false... He mentioned in one of his videos something like "melodies should follow chord tones" - which proves he is clueless. He has "theoretical" knowledge about music, but ZERO real life experience COMPOSING ORIGINAL music. Sure, he can ARRANGE other people's song, but that's a completely different skill, and much easier than writing original songs. Not to mention, he clearly doesn't understand modern songs, and comparing today's songs to old songs, which is pointless and dumb.
This is how easy you can spread misinformation and blatant lies. You’re just a google search away to realize that you’re lying and have no idea of what you’re talking about.
eh, i get that rick has more experience but i can at least play a few chords on guitar and some basic basslines and drums. also i dont really take myself too seriously and dont plan on turning this into a career.
He’s not wrong, he thinks today’s popular music is severely lacking (which is backed by the numbers) and he likes to come up with ideas as to WHY it might be. He doesn’t state anything as fact, and that’s why he can’t be wrong
Nah, Rick is just falling into the bullshit that all cranky old people get once their relevance to modern art wanes: he has become too lazy to seek out new art that would appeal to him and instead of leaving his comfort zone, he bitches and moans about how great the old days were because it is easier. He couldn't be more wrong about this topic.
@@sflonghorn the fact people have come to think the only cultural importance for music is to be appealing to its core audience is one of the primary symptoms of music sucking so badly these days.
@@onlinescammer8291 ahh yes, the true sign of great art: appealing to as wide of an audience as possible instead of being a true expression of the artist 🙄guys like Rick are the cause of their own problems with the music industry. Boohoo now I have to engage with the art instead of having a major label curate everything I get to experience
@@sflonghornMusic used to be valuable beyond just being an appealing thing to listen to. You're so belligerent you can't even process what someone is saying to you, right now.
Both you and Rick are on youtube and that's all I need to know about either of you. It's on the internet - so what ? My personal opinion is that you used Rick's name because it's more likely to generate views for your channel - but SO WHAT ? Go downstairs and thrash the $hit out of your guitar/keyboard/drums/bass whatever. You want to hear good music ? Go form a band and make it yourself do it for fun who gives a $hit if nobody else likes it - playing music is supposed to be FUN. People can say whatever they want but bottom line is what's going on in your head and your ears. The real question is why did I waste two minutes commenting on a youtube video...
Your song sounds like Stairway to Heaven. Also, you are criticizing Rick Beato, yet the quality of his production is much better. To the comments that are saying Rick Beato is not a songwriter, that is completely untrue.
my bad that the quality of my production isnt as good as someone 3x my age! its very hard for me to learn all these instruments as well as production and engineering :( i have no formal training as for the stairway to heaven thing, its a TYPE BEAT. this is not meant to be taken seriously, nobody will ever sing or rap or publish this beat in any capacity. tbh the only similarity is the chorus/solo but the exact same chord progression is ACTUALLY taken from “All Along the Watchtower” which again proves my point about how songs recycle the same chord progressions. The verse especially sounds nothing like stairway and if you think it does, youre lying
@Ambience20 - hahah I think the point went right over your head... or, maybe you'd prefer listening to Shinedown? (what Beato actually worked on) ... awful mid boomer music.
Rick was right, but he is WAAAYYYY too late. He listens to dumb dumb music and thinks its interesting. Music started it's true decline the minute that the printing press made reproduction of music easy and available to the lowly poors. If you didn't hand write your melodies, or have them reproduced via scribe for your musicians to perform- you are not making music worthy of listening to. And even worse! once recording became available- you didn't even need to pay a real musician to hear a piece performed. you could just spin up a cylinder of wax or lacquer and hear the same performance over and over again. Heck- nobody needs to learn to play instruments anymore because every town could just have music delivered for free over the airwaves with the devils radio machine. Literally every generation feels like they are living in the best most interesting times, and they are correct. The problem is that the times keep getting interestinger and betterer, but the generations get older and less interested in learning about new tools or sorting through all the crap that is available to find the gems. Young people have time and energy to sort though the mess to find the good stuff. Old folks have jobs and other responsibilites and interests pulling their attention from the work it takes to innovate or find the worthy innovation. Except David Bowie- he stayed interesting and innovative until his last breath. When Rick was a kid, there was lots of crap on the radio, and most pop music objectively sucked by all standards. The Osmonds, and the Partridge Family made lots of money selling crap- The Beatles and Zepplin were important because it was unlike all the other stuff being pushed at the time. There was also a lot of really amazing stuff that nobody heard until years after the artist died or quit music. just like today. But tody, everyone can play guitar if they want to- guitars are cheap and music education is free. it is really just up to the musician to choose to spend the time and energy on what they are interested in. Also the average musician also has to learn about electrical wiring, software troubleshooting, and how effects chains work. Rick is way better at guitar and producing music than you- but he also has a million dollars worth of gear, and 3x your entire lifespan in experience making and playing music. Easy make it so there IS more crap out there- but also makes it so that there is way more good stuff too. it is easier for crappy music to happen, but also easier for talented and interesting creators to release stuff whenever they want. Sorry for the essay- I am a little younger than rick, but I reject the old man drive to shake fist at clouds about the kids and I have some feelings.
I agree that Rick Beato's takes are very biased by his history. The means of musical production are in the hands of more people. If music is worse it's due to either it not being promoted, or not being created at all, and it's quite obvious that the music industry promotes fewer artists. In addition, I would like to ad a point I RARELY if ever see: housing prices got too expensive for most musicians decades ago, and therefore the demise of bands rehearsing is because the space is too valuable, outside their budget. Boomers consciously "know" that that is happening, but they act as if it's not the reality. Back in the 60s through to the early 90s housing was quite affordable and musicians sharing rooms in a house were much more common, as were rehearsal spaces etc. If you're doing electronic music, that's not really a problem as you can just do it in your apartment (which many people are struggling to afford to rent recently). Anyways, good video.
Well, I'm not quite as old as Rick, but I'm pretty old and I am a drum teacher. The thing about kids not practicing is pretty true. But I do have a handful of my students who practice at home and those kids always sound the best obviously. I think one of the main problems is a lot of kids are not being exposed to music the right way largely due to social media. As far as amp modeling, to me this is the absolute best way to record guitars. There's absolutely no need to use an amp in a studio. Modeling technology sounds the best by far. For drums, I do somewhat agree that as soon as you quantize you're using a drum machine, but some songs call for a drum machine, so that's not always bad.
As a fellow RUclipsr, this video was a clever way to reach a lot of people through your channel. Also, as a fellow RUclipsr, my advice to you is do not let the success of this video sidetrack you from your real goal of creating music (if that is your real goal). Don't let algorithms dictate your creative flow.
I understand what Rick is saying about it being too easy. I believe he meant learning from your limitations. My first few recording sessions were done with a Peavey Classic 30, Ibanez Fat Cat distortion, mic'ed up to a 6 channel mixing board straight to a reel-to-reel. No dubs, no splicing, no copy-paste. What you play is what you get. You gotta experiment to find the perfect sound with what you have and then get everyone to hit their take perfectly or start over and play it again. One song could take all day just to get the perfect take. If we had protools back then we could have done the whole album in a day or two instead of weeks
I get what you are saying about plugins and having access to amps for experimentation. I believe what Rick was trying to get at is that when you don't have access to all that, you have no choice but to be creative with what you have. Sometimes limiting yourself opens you up much more creativity.
I come from nearly Rick's generation, but still an old git at 50. There is a lot I agree with Rick on - mic'ing amps takes skill, playing instruments takes another skill to do.. I think what Rick forgets is that modern musicians, not just "kids" as he sees them, have to do all the recording, playing, engineering, mixing and mastering. And we havent even talked about promoting the finished product.
I think there is something for playing nearly in one take (people used to "punch in" back in the late 60s onwards, if they made a mistake). It adds a small random element which pricks the ear. Rick forgets The Beatles, The Who, etc didnt know music theory.
You make a lot of good points.
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I don't know dude, it sounds pretty good to me. Writing better songs is the big challenge. I spend more time writing songs personally. If you write more songs your production skills get better, you will eventually get bored of the first chords you learn on guitar. I write constantly. Most of it is shit. But if you work on Finishing songs. You will definitely learn a lot along the way. The tools you use don't matter. Finishing songs matters. (BTW I am older than dirt.)
Music isnt getting worse, radio is lol
yeah, it seems like since most people stream songs, the radio is for those who don’t/arent interested in searching for anything new an innovative
BOOM. most succinct and effective take on this whole issue
Well-said
For someone who didn't spend 60+ years listening to classic rock, and 50+ years learning how to make classic rock, like Rick Beato and, well, me, you did pretty well! Probably about as well as I could when I was 20, which what I'm guessing you are. I un-subbed from Mr Beato, not because I don't think he's super talented and knowledgeable (he is), but I just got tired of his shtick. I got tired of him patting himself on the back for knowing "all the chords" and when a chord doesn't fit in the key, then it must be a "borrowed chord." 🙄 In fact I'm tired of music being a defacto collection of chord changes.I much prefer thinking in terms of melody, harmony, counterpoint, and not a bunch of f-ing chords in predictable patterns,
Anyway, you know who didn't have multi-track recording? Les F-ing Paul until he pretty much invented it in the 50s. The F-ing Beatles recorded Sgt. Pepper's on 4-track machines (yes, 2 of them sync'd up). And they pretty much invented reverse tape and flanging, and a dozen odd other techniques. I personally don't like real amps or amp sims all that much. I listen to my guitar usually through my pedals and a cheap audio interface. Yeah, I used to have an awesome amp, and have played through most of the great amps at one time or another, but I don't GAF about amps or sims because I still have most of my hearing, and I have taste, and a knowledge of how to make sounds. I'd rather be inventive like the people we now try to reduce to a bunch of samples or plugins. I don't spend money on any of that beyond Logic Pro. I have more free plugins than I'll ever bother to use, and a pretty respectable collection of boutique and cheapo pedals.
So, I'm rambling, which is what old people do. 🤣I'll stop.
Oh, and I don't care what Wikipedia says; people born after 1960 are X-ers.
☮ out! 👽👍
i think rick did something good though, he started a conversation about it. Honestly because of rick i think people now feel less insecure about the modern way of making music because of all the backlash he got
I have a love/hate relationship with Rick Beato as well. When he's breaking down a part or going technical, it's useful. The 'kids these days' and 'music these days' bits are dull. Plenty of great music on Bandcamp and Bumblebee Radio if you are willing to 'do the work' and seek it out. You know, like when he was a kid? There has always been shitty pop music in his lifetime but that gets zero attention.
I hit subscribe. You're interesting.
As a 72 yr old boomer myself, I can see both sides. I enjoy certain types of music for both listening and playing, but most importantly I do it for myself. I am impressed with your presentation and am now a subscriber, as I have been watching Rick for many years. Best of luck with your music and presentations. It will be fun to see your progression so stay in touch.
This is a great video.
Your video was suggested to me. Very good points. I’m a fan of Rick’s videos but his thing often is “Music today sucks because people don’t know music theory, by the way if you wanna learn music theory buy my book”. 😂
No its more about grabbing a canned pre conceived chord or melody doesn't necessarily make you smarter or better ..... it makes you less connected to where music often come from ... from within you.... the expressive part. I little mistake can be very interesting a perfect quantized part is boring often times because its not human.
things are getting "too easy" in that you can throw shit together and move onto the mixing / mastering phase before you actually take the time to develop your musical ideas. there's all kinds of ways to counter this if you want to, but the net effect on music is that the industry favors people who focus more on their branding and image than actually spending time to have a musical identity.
rick beato is still kinda wrong, but he's the most wrong when you take his arguments in the most superficial and discharitable way possible.
this actually makes some sense and I can understand how it would have that effect. sometimes it seems like rick gets too caught up in theory and the technical stuff so that is, for me, where a lot of it comes from but i can definitely get what youre saying.
Rick Beato usually has good points, but his way of presenting it got way too much worse than he used to do. Trent mentioned not being ragebait but kinda is, the problem is that Rick started doing that as every RUclipsr did for easy engagement but like many other he lost the plot on it.
That would be a really good take if it was somehow true. But the reality is that at the end people always favours good music, no matter how attractive your branding and image is. There is no way to trick people's ears with image alone. That's why "industry plants" never succeed. Also, making music has always been easy to make. You can literally make music with anything. There are several famous songs and artists that became famous with only a guitar and their voice. Most only need their voice. Some only write songs.
And when it comes to aspects of production like mixing an engineering those are non-essential when it comes to making music. They only matter for distributing music. What happens is that Rick suffers from survivor bias when it comes to "good music". He always complains about the top ten Spotify and ITunes lists, because he keeps comparing them to the classics, but if he takes the time to listen to the top ten lists from billboard with all the rest of the songs where those classic songs came from, he will discover the piles and piles of dogshit music with cheese tunes and gimmicky rhythms. Rick Beato is wrong precisely because it was a superficial and brainless take.
@@MrPipol-nm3cd The artist themselves don't have to be the ones supplying the music. That's why the industry is so focused on solo artists. They have their "singer" or "artist," and just license all the music off of someone who will in all likelihood be nameless backup for the rest of their lives. Those truly essential aspects as you called them, can be gotten cheaper because until they're a household name, they have no leverage. It benefits the fuck out of the record companies that solo artists with a low investment in music are the heroes of the day, because it means the people who focus on music have no power.
You don't actually think doing something other than singing and strumming guitar has no advantage. You're playing dumb about the cost of recording music as it culturally exists. Have a backbone if you decide to respond, next time.
@@onlinescammer8291 The industry focuses in solo artists because solo artists are often the ones with more talent. And the industry is driven by the audience. Even music bands and rap groups have a leader that stands out because they are the creative drive for the band. And they definitely have leverage. It happens that some did not got proper legal advice when signing for a label.
Those who decide to be on the background do it because their artistic needs do not require them to be on the front. Is a personal choice. Those are music composers, music producers, music writers, engineers, musicians, etc.
Also,
I don't see how solo artists that produce their own music can benefit record labels.
Most artists today produce and distribute their own music by their own means, from Jacob Collier to Kendrick Lamar. They don't need a label because they are their own label. The two most listened artist on earth, Taylor Swift and Bad Bunny are owners of their own recordings. Bad Bunny was more clever than Taylor: He funded his own label to produce himself form the very beginning.
I didn't get your last paragraph. It makes no sense. Making music, and producing and distributing music are two different areas of music industry.
Yeah, totally agree on at least a few of these points. Like the amp stuff. Amps are expensive, and people don't all live in suburban homes with garages like he did when he grew up, when you live in a city apartment you need to be able to play stuff with headphones (silently). Having giant energy-consuming amps is, well when you need to go loud.
You have moments where you present good counterarguments to Rick, but in the end you sort of prove his point a little bit by using all of the tools he railed against, then making a very amateur-ish sounding song with it.
I think you're points are valid. You have a great perspective from someone who is young in the business and doesn't have much money.
However, I think Rick still makes a lot of great points as well. My understanding is that Rick is talking about the multi-billion dollar businesses that are using simple basic beats all of the time, and that it's disappointing that companies/people in position to inovate choose not to. Therefore, all music is just sounding too similar and it's boring.
Taylor Swift is the prime example. Every album when she started were different from each other. But for the past several albums all of them sound the same. She could inovate like she used to, but chooses not to. And instead is just adding to the collection of saturated music. That's why she can throw out 50 songs in a year. ....But it works.
We all understand it makes money. It's just disappointing.
if he’s mostly aiming his critique at the mainstream music industry, why does he complain that kids don’t care about music? i dont think many kids are involved in the multi billion dollar music industry.
Thank you though!
I've said this before and I'm gonna keep saying it. If you're tired of however you feel music has changed or gotten worse, either from a general musical standpoint or the business of music, make some goddamn music that reflects your tastes and what you feel is missing/needed. Fuck the old head bullshit. Some younger cats even embody the old head stereotype. I used to as well, but it was really more of an identity thing, being young and disenfranchised. I'm glad I was that way because it allowed me to learn a lot of things I wouldn't have otherwise learned if I was just tuned into what was popular around me but eventually you're supposed to lose that ignorant mindset because overall its unproductive as fuck.
Not coming at you OP BTW
@@nevedofficial466 the supply of music isn't the problem.
@@onlinescammer8291 I never said anything about the "supply," whatever that means.
@@nevedofficial466 it means the problem isn't that people aren't making interesting music. you implied a supply problem by suggesting the solution is just getting out there and making the music you want to see influencing culture.
I agree with what you say but you didn't have to lay down dani californias last dance
😂 gimme a break its a type beat its bound to sound like something
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No need to go hard on people. Everything that happens in your life has been called from you and is here to show the way(s) for you to pave you own path towards advancing you understanding of music. Same goes for everyone. Keep making music and you will find out that what you actually do is reproducing life.
I'll give to you that RIck failed miserably to get his points across in that video... But that doesn't mean his points are not valid.
For instance, you said something along the lines of "I listen to a ton of old music, I would have to buy 100 albums to listen to all of that"...
The point was that *you weren't supposed to have access to all that music at all*: "Back in my day" we used to have to tape record music of the radio, go to stores and preview records of the bands we knew we liked or where within that genre, tape those records and trade tapes with friends, which was how we discovered new bands. There was this entire social aspect driven by scarcity that instilled in us a certain band/genre loyalty...
This is the reason why, for instance, punks and metalheads started wearing band t-shirts, band patches on their jackets, and some even tattooing band names and logos onto themselves.
And, IMO, this is what made music into the cornerstone of Western culture: It really did bring people together, going to concerts was the most important thing in a young person's life right after relationships and sex.
WHY DOES MUSIC HAVE TO BE SCARCE??? i wanna listen to whatever i want man :(
as for the social aspect, people share song links in DMs and texts all the time. the “PASS THE AUX” memes are accurate, when driving with friends people trade/queue songs. Spotify even has a feature called “Jam” for this very purpose
people still wear shirts, even classic ones like joy division and nirvana. also obviously new musicians as well, you just are probably unaware of what they are since you are unfamiliar to the artists
@@trentjisung It doesn't dude. Nothing really has to be scarce at all.
It's just that... Like it or not, scarcity induces struggle, struggle induces meaning. This applies not only to music but life in general, you know?
This doesn't mean scarcity is the only way to give meaning to things...
Hell, I've found out about a tone bands I love (King Gizzard, 100gecs, Death Grips, all of the Vapor and Synthwave shiit, etc) thanks to the almighty algorithm, well after "scarcity" stopped being a thing ... But the reason why I bonded with them is because they made me actually **feel**... You know?
Furthermore, I just wanted you to know that I found it funny when you said "oh there's a ton of variation in trap beats", and then proceeded to list a bunch of ways in how different trap beats are different... Rest assured: I'm not trying to come across as being condescending, I take your word for it and I totally believe you when you say there's a world of difference between different trap genres, It's just that I don't really vibe with trap in general and thus all trap sounds kind of like the same to me... And that's the joke: I feel like I'm becoming just like my dad, unable to tell the *obvious* difference between thrash metal, black metal, doom metal and punk: "it all sounds like shit to me!!".... Oh well.
Finally, if you ever wanna produce boomer oriented tracks, don't let the lack of gear get you down: Just play Garage Rock. we love that shit and all you really need is a room mic to capture the "band"... In other words, make a basic beat and a basseline, play it back to provide th foundation to your basic ass guitar riffs, and record the result using a single room mic: Your grandma will love you for it.
You just keep on doing what you do remembering, first and foremost, it's because it gives you pleasure. If anyone else likes it too then it's a bonus. Great video by the way.
thanks!
I think you both have a point. And I actually don't think you are one of the "kids" Rick was talking about.
I mean the music you presented here sounds fantastic. You really put the effort in.
People who make videos like this simply don't get the point. Just accept the fact that the majority of mainstream music has gotten progressively worse and more mediocre through out the years. Nowadays you see entire teams of like 9 songwriters for most pop "icons" that just end straight up copying older songs or writing some of the most uninspired (basic) songs and call it a day, why? Because they know the average consumer, who are mostly people who don't have any type of musical knowledge just don't care and are basically deaf when it comes to music. It's not that hard to understand.
spoiler: the average consumer has never had any clue as to how music works
also people have been copying older songs since music was invented and if you disagree, you are mistaken.
@@trentjisung Being influenced by something or someone is not the same as straight up copying other people’s work. I know you’re just a kid and that’s most likely why you take an objective opinion as some kind of personal attack, hence the “zommer vs boomer” thing. No one’s talking about you, you can be of whatever generation and make great music. And again, you miss the point, the average music consumer doesn’t see any value on music beyond being this background ambient noise, that’s why you can use the same chord progression over and over and people wouldn’t even notice or even care even if you told them, music has lost a lot of its value, maybe when you’re older you’ll understand.
@@trentjisunghave CEOs been hiring a panel of songwriters to ensure none of their material veers from the current meta since music was invented, or can you at least concede that it's something new and cynical about music today? has tastemaking been offloaded to social media and streaming algorithms since the beginning of time? have the revenue streams for musicians been shrinking into nothingness, with the music itself being being basically unmonetizable, to live music collapsing, to merch sales being a desperate saturated market from the beginning of time? or is these new developments that massively disincentivize risk taking and individuality in music?
Yes. Music used to be much deeper. Look at these lyrics for an example of amazing old music:
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop (pop)
Bobom, bom, bom
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop (pop)
Bobom, bom, bom
Call my baby lollipop
Tell you why
His kiss is sweeter than an apple pie
And when he does his shaky rockin' dance
Man, i haven't got a chance
I call him
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop (pop)
Sweeter than candy on a stick
Huckleberry, cherry or lime
If you had a choice he'd be your pick
But lolipop is mine
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop (pop)
Bobom, bom, bom
Crazy way he thrills me
Tell you why
Just like a lightning from the sky
He loves to kiss me till i can't see straight
Gee, my lolipop is great
I call him
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop (pop)
Bobom, bom, bom
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop, lolipop
Oh, loli, loli, loli
Lolipop
Oh lolipop
@@bsgconsulting 30 years ago Daft Punk wrote a song that only says "Around the world, around the world." It was still more creative and divergent than the zeitgeist today. It isn't musician's fault. There's basically nothing they can do to stop creative works from being vulgarized by music streaming to be ignorable playlist fodder and by social media to be background sludge.
Well I have to admit enjoy many of Rick Beato's videos, however I enjoyed this video as well. You seem very talented from the videos I checked out. I really liked the slide guitar too. I'm 58 and open to anything new, however it is more challenging to find than it was in the past at least to me. By the way a little off topic I love the music in the game Skyrim.
Nicely put man. Appreciate hearing your perspective vs what I agree is an outdated/untrue opinion.
Beato is putting forward a disingenuous narrative for the clicks in the failed guise of reconciling the fact that popular music is no longer his music. But who cares he can yell at clouds all he wants its not changing anything as he is losing his cultural cache.
The more important thing here is you Trent. This video is amazing and shows such promise, well done. You are going to be a great addition to the RUclips stars of the future. Well done and keep it up!
thank you so much!!!!!
i will say the reason that i care so much about what he says is that to me, its very dismissive of kids today who actually make and love music simply because it isnt in the way that rick did when he was younger.
but again, thank you for the kind words!!
Yeah man, keen to see where you take your channel as you figure out your thing on here.
And not to beat a dead horse but Rick's entire argument is laaaaaaaaame to me,
Check this out, music as we know it literally started after world war 2 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_multitrack_recording ) when the German's figured out hi fidelity recording to tape in 1943.
Rick was born in 1962, 19 years after the literal invention of recording music in a way that didn't sound like crap and could be edited as it was on tape. So he used the technology of his time. I think he makes the mistake of thinking the way he grew up with music is the way music is meant to be.
I think there are a lot more interesting questions that could be leaned into, instead of his lame viewpoint. That being said I do watch his videos and do enjoy them.
@@WhatWhat-2 that is true, i never considered how early we truly are in terms of modern music, especially in rick’s case.
i watch some of his educational videos as well but half the time he seems to be ranting about Spotify and billboard charts…
Totally agree, but that is his thing. That get him his clicks and pays his rent.
You're proving Rick's point. If you had been a musician in the 70's, 80's or 90's, you would not have had the tools to do a decent recording let alone have access to or survive in a recording studio. The technology has made it way easier and cheaper to produce music. How do you think it was for young musicians back in the day? Owning a Mellotron? Forget it! Those were only available to the happy few with big record deals. Btw. Your kicks are rushing, your breaks are sloppy and your guitars are not in tune.
I don't like music, I LOVE IT....
If I DON'T love it, I DON'T listen...
on double speed it sounds like elvis costello had a baby with stairway to heaven
Rick's first point (and it was in line with the context of the video being about the technological history of music) was about how easy the tech makes things now to record music. But his tutorials are pretty much all about music theory. These are two different things., so there's no irony there.
I argue that sound theory and music theory are two sides of the same coin - why gripe about one getting more accessible but not the other?
Great video! Love the editing and the tutorial/response to Rick Beato. Subscribed :)
I think him thinking things are getting too easy is an easy way out. There's so many creative things you can do with the tech that's coming out these days, I mean, not everyone has access to every kind of hardware you want to use
Hey first I want to say good job on the video, here for the grind man, but I think there's a lot of twisting of the points rick is trying to make across. For reference, I'm not some old dude making videos with thousands of views. I'm a young musician who gets no views lmao.
When rick is saying music is getting too easy, that doesn't mean hard= good. It means that the threshold of knowledge to be able to make just a decent song is way harder. Someone with almost no real knowledge of music can open up their DAW and with the right VSTs midi, plugins, and A.I. actually make a full song that's not completely bad. Even just 10-20 years ago, that just wasn't happening. The connection rick is trying to make is that 1. the music industry is bloated with so much mediocre music because too many people have the access to just make a song at a click of a button. 2. Most of the people making music don't have an incentive to become more knowledgeable because the problem is solved for them. If you're relying on technology to make music, then your limitations only cap to about the same level where the technology is. If you understand the knowledge behind it, the only limitations you have are set by yourself. Innovations propers due to people experimenting with the knowledge they built up. Music as a whole will lose that quality the more reliant on ease of access it becomes.
Again, rick isn't saying "complex" chords = better music. Mostly because I'm sure rick knows that chords are equal. There are no "complex" chords, it's all about context, but there are cliche progressions, but no chords are "simple" or "complex". It comes down to a knowledge thing. The keyword is to what you said, "learn some guitar on a basic level". With a midi chord pack, even that "basic" level of learning becomes useless.
I think the amp take highlights a lot of the issues people have with the rick video. You're consuming his take as if he's saying it's bad that you use amp plugins. Rick isn't giving his opinion on whether emulated amps are bad, he's giving he's using it to showcase the difference in access that people have now. When he says it doesn't allow for creativity, I assume he means from "limitation drives innovation" standpoint. As point to the fact, you'd never have all of those amps without the plugin, if you had money to get just one amp, you'd have to become creative in order to take it the full mileage and get different sounds out of it. In the same way how when you were a little boy, if you didn't have expensive toys, you can take a stick and turn it into a sword and get a lot of mileage out of it. I think there's a point on both sides in the since there's things creatively technology can let you do that's never possible in the real world.
Rick isn't telling you to go out and buy a whole bunch of vinyls and saying it's bad if you don't, he's more or less just giving what he thinks is a consequence of having access to Spotify. The biggest thing I think people need to be careful of is understanding the difference between saying directly "This is bad" and saying "I think the cause and effect for this action is this consequence". I can see how it can be confusing, but If I told you I feel like because music is accessible, it's way harder to make money from music, that doesn't mean I think accessibility for music is bad, but I think the consequence of the accessibility might make fact jobs might be harder to find.
The same thing with the drums argument. Rick isn't making a harder = better argument, he's just stating the fact of it being harder to record and you're interpreting him as meaning that it's better.
Overall, I think the takes on both this and the Fantano video generally miss the point of the video rick made. The overall point of rick's video is that music is really easy to make which doesn't drive incentive for people to make great music, then he goes about showing different ways on how music is easier to make today. He's not making a "these things are bad point", but "things used to be harder", which you can't really argue. An actual rebuttal to rick's video would be one that argues that it's about the same or harder to make music today vs back then.
I know my comment is overkill, I feel strong about the topic. Hope you have great success with your channel and music and know this comment isn't an attack.
well my main problem with him saying music is too easy to make which is supposedly the cause of so much lazy/uninspired music, is that rick is one of the biggest music educators.
as for twisting his words, imo its more that rick represented his argument in a very confusing way, including an overview of music history as well as using a sink to represent music streams
i get a lot of what youre saying but ill stand on the amp thing. i get the limitation breeds creativity thing, but cmon, theres like 5 knobs total on basically every amp. unless i am missing something, you can really only EQ, add gain, or move the mic away from the amp. drums are a bit different cause theres a lot going on so i can kinda get that.
like i said, i was gonna make an equally confusing video so maybe rick and I both didnt represent our points well; i figured might as well learn something with it
@@trentjisung When rick is saying music is too easy, I don't he's trashing on the availability of the knowledge. Even if the knowledge is more accessible, people still got to put in the work to learn. It's more or less directed at the fact, I can put my friend who knows nothing about music and with a chord pack, sequencers, and the right plugins, he can actually make something that's not completely bad. That was IMPOSSIBLE even just 20 years ago. It's like how someone with no animation experience can use A.I. now to make animations that aren't completely terrible. That type of accessibility doesn't give an incentive people to learn the skills.
I don't think you were intentionally twisting his words. I do think it's easy to kind of navigate your head to a worst scenario from a polarizing point. If I went up to someone and said, "I know more theory than you"(which I wouldn't really ever do). That person might hear "I'm a better musician than you" vs taking the words I said at face value. I hadn't said anything about skills of musicianship, but I'm solely talking about theory. You shouldn't be responding about why you think you're a better musician. You need to be responding on why you know more theory if you intend to argue my statement. Usually when it comes to things we're passionate about, the emotions kind of make us get ahead of ourselves.
Cool man, stand on the amp thing. I was just explaining what I thought was rick's side, I didn't necessarily agree with him on this.
Like I said great video, I really like the beat you made, and it's brave of you to put your opinion on the internet full of not so nice guys who'd maybe say not the greatest things.
@prodtrentjisung I believe that the point Beato fail to pass on is that music being abundant kinda makes it disposable. What I think he is trying to say is that when you only had a new album to listen to each month,, you either listened to it deeply, or you went back to the few others ones you had, so the theory is that the few music you had became much more meening ful. Nowadays, you give a track 5 sec to decide if you like it or not, and if not you have all the music in history to listen to, which means you spend much less time on each song, but you even feel the urge to swipe to listen to all that is at your fingertips.
A while ago, some people introduced the concept of slow listening, which is a sort of musical analog to the slow food movement. To summarize the idea, it's just "less but deeper", you artificially limit the amount of music you have access to, but when you listen to it, you don't do anything at the same time and listen to the whole project in one sitting without skipping.
I don't think that a concept is better than the other, each person can decide what works better for them, but it is important to know that there are drawbacks to abundance.
Lol, "slow listening"...what a Gen Z thing to say. I agree with your point though. Music being disposable today sucks.
The abundance of music only makes good music better. It is not more disposable, but the opposite: It makes talented artists shine brighter and the easy access to production tools allows talented artists to distribute their music easier, cheaper and to a wider audience.
The fact is that music is not more "meaningful" because it cost you more money to get a record. That only means you had less access to quality music so you had to conform. You had to cope with a dogshit album because the store clerk scammed you into buying a rob & fab album. It ruins and limits your musical taste to the size of your pocket.
On Point!
I always agree with Rick, sometimes partially, even been young, but when i watched this video i really though that he was only trolling, the whole video feels like a joke lol
i like his engineering videos but in the one I talked about, he turns his sink on and off to represent Spotify and uses an eyedropper to simulate streams. I thought that was pretty funny
@@trentjisung yeah haha
I don't think he's aiming at creatives or hobbyists. Perhaps a little closer to artists like Taylor Swift, who has the attention of the entire world and releases Fortnight that quite literally repeats C D Bm Em for four minutes.
fortnight
Why would the most successful country artists in history change her formula? I don't disagree that her music is extremely boring, but the idea that someone that is so imminently successful would switch things up is absolutely laughable
@@ATSaale Well, maybe she is more interesting than what she presents but decide to keep it like that for the money. As you said, it is what is expected, but shows that either she doesn't have a spine or is a very shallow and boring person.
@@alr12 have you never heard of KISS? Some bands are formed purely to make money
@@ATSaale that's fine man, I'm not complaining about them, but it's not interesting as music, maybe as business.
Valiant attempt at criticism, good insight into your production process, but I think Rick is still ultimately right.
Music is a poor imitation of what it once was. Given the advances of technology, the saturation of music into the market and the sheer ubiquity of sound - think gyms, headphones everywhere, cafes, bars, cars - the value has shifted from the core of the music itself to content, speed of production, cheapness and the celebrity around the product.
The way we consume music is an interesting one. It is literally background noise. Think about how often you listen to music, not as the object itself, but as a secondary or an adjuct to some other task you are doing (walking, shopping, exercise, driving, cooking, studying, scrolling through your phone, working)...this would have been unheard to a very large extent before the era of headphones, ipods, spotfies etc. It inherently devalues the product whereby a simple pulse - rather than rhythm - is all that is reuqired, i.e., your trap musif examples. Background music does not demand complex rhythms or ideas, only simple, repetitive loops - thus it's easily consumed, and easily produced, which lowers the marginal costs, but boosts the profits.
Like most art, as music becomes more and more democraticsed, meaning it reaches a wider audience, it moves from the complex to the simple, from Bach to the Beatles, from counter point with 5 voices, to 3 harmonic changes and a static melody line. Similar with literature/books, Shakespear to Harry Potter...this is not to say that complex interesting ideas are not out there, it is just to say that the locus of musical focus is with the simple, the simple, repetitive music with the monotone melody and repetitive beat is the rule not the exception. Here is this devaluing, race to the bottom in music.
And finally, as technology and a market advances, it becomes harder and harder to differentiate oneself, leading to bizarre self parody. It happened in the art world, where artists began displaying urinals (Duchamp), splashing random spirals and dashes of paint on a canvasing and calling it profound (Pollock). All this in a bid to push boundaries, becoming parodic because, apparently, everything had been said before. It's there in music in the trap and rap stuff, no singing, no harmony, dull spoken voices, the same crude offensive language called edgy, discussing "W.A.P", all these examples of an industry putting a premium on shock value, clickbait music, more a joke
/sneer - like Duchamp did with his urinal - than actual musicality. Once again, devaluing music.
Ricks point is that you don't know what you don't know yet. The way things are going you very well might not learn what you can to be a better song writer composer performer and recording artist because more and more is being done for you...when you hear people say " its easier this way or you don't have to know how it will do it for you" its a sign that people are being taking out of the process. The humanism is disappearing. Today because things are more automated or generated for you in music you loose the opportunity to learn things because it is out of sight out of mind. He's not saying that what your doing is wrong ... he's more upset because how things are being now you will learn less of what made music great. Often times the great music comes from overcoming things that were a hurdle. The was more individuality on the playlists. There was more dynamics. Its becoming too homogenized. Many people have less of an understanding of music because often times it is just background now! His point was that because music was less accessible it was valued more. You spent more time with it... You interacted with it and because of that you paid more attention to it. You read the notes .. You looked at the photos etc in order to connect with the artist.... You just had more time with it so it meant more... Keep making what you make but don't cut out his experience it is invaluable. He often points out these things not because he thinks its necessary in order for it to be good... He point them out because they do make a difference and to not settle because its easier... Strive to make music how you can but never stop seeking for the things that make it better in quality and by all means the journey you take and hurdles you over come to make it are often more important to you as an artist because you can own that. It gives you experience and understanding your journey. Stay engaged with ever aspect. Break a leg kid!
I don't ask my grandma about music, so idk why people care about this guy's musical opinions...
Omg people here are so mean wth, your points are 100% valid. Most of what beato said is it’s easy to do music so now its bad, and he’s criticizing people themselves for using tools that exists instead of criticizing the industry for doing that, but that would get us nowhere. It’s more accessible and that’s a good thing sure there’s more shitty music, but there’s also more good music. The problem comes from what the industry promotes and that is not on us, but the greedy part of the music industry. So really rick is saying nothing. Ofc id love to have access to a full studio drum with mics, but i dont. I still want to compose and i wont wait around being older and having more money gotta put some practice in
eh idc about other comments, when you have opinions on the internet you gotta except different takes
its good that you dont let limitations stop you though!
"If you don't have lots of money, you don't deserve to make music." - Rick Beato, paraphrased.
nah.
The "kids these days don't practice" was such a dogshit take. He appealed to the most dumb anecdotal fallacy. Only because his friend does not see kids practicing does not mean kids are not practicing music. Just let look at the stats of those music tutorials. They get millions of views. Then let's look at the artists: JD and Domi, Tim Henson, Juya Shin, Benjamin Grosvenor, Sunga Jung, Jan Lisicki, Metro Boomin, Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, Sam Smith, Lorde, Daya and so on. Multi award-winning artists who are extremely young under 33 years old. We are living the times of musical geniuses like Jacob Collier, Fred Again, and Finneas O'connell and Billie Eilish.
Music, like any other art skill requires that the person has an interest for it. And only 10% of the population in any part of the world has an interested for either music, painting, or writing. It is like that today, and it was like that way back in the day too. Theres is not any more or any less interest for music.
Most of the artists you mentioned don't practice. Or if they do, it makes their output all the more embarrassing. :(
@@onlinescammer8291 Yeah, they sure don't practice. 🤣That's why rehearsal don't exists, right? All successful artists you know practice every day to hone their skills. It's their job to make music.
@@MrPipol-nm3cd fuck no. why the fuck are they gonna make sure their chops are there? you think billie eilish is belting it out when she goes on tour. what would be the point, for what she's doing?
@@onlinescammer8291 those artists all practiced. I guarantee it. It just depends what you think practice must look like
hes gen x
nah, hes 62, born in 1962
@@trentjisung Ah you’re right my bad
Making Music is TOO easy because we have great teachers like Rick making it easy for us lol. I mean. complaining about NOT paying dues haas nothing to do with generation but with the accessibility. Rick ia great but to be honest, Thats a fruit of labor he created the space us young to make music easier due to his experience e so we have our own problems. (ai)
so its all about how its used. Cause the end user is listener.
I've watched some of his vids and all I saw was an old has been trying to stay relevant. As with all of these old-timers in the music industry, it's time to retire Grandpa you're just making yourself look foolish.
a video full of childish excuses
ugh the drum recording bit is SUCH gatekeeping from rick. Good music doesn't require all that. full stop.
People shitting their pants from Rick Beato but he is a very closed-minded snob who has zero songwriting credits. I don't mean to trash him but I was exactly the same as him, that "music should be complex and interesting and pop music is shit because they only use simple chords"... Then I started to analyze and write pop songs and realized how wrong I was. Keep in mind, he is trashing highly successful songwriters while he has literally ZERO songwriting credits! He never ever wrote a song, yet he is stating things about chord progressions and melodies - things that are completely false... He mentioned in one of his videos something like "melodies should follow chord tones" - which proves he is clueless. He has "theoretical" knowledge about music, but ZERO real life experience COMPOSING ORIGINAL music. Sure, he can ARRANGE other people's song, but that's a completely different skill, and much easier than writing original songs. Not to mention, he clearly doesn't understand modern songs, and comparing today's songs to old songs, which is pointless and dumb.
He has writing credits on country hits from back in the day you have no clue what you're talking about to be honest
"who has zero songwriting credits." Do you just like being deliberately stupid or what?
i like when nice people like you come to my channel to comment
bak in the day pepega
This is how easy you can spread misinformation and blatant lies. You’re just a google search away to realize that you’re lying and have no idea of what you’re talking about.
"20-something with no perspective says Rick Beato is wrong, news at 11"
eh, i get that rick has more experience but i can at least play a few chords on guitar and some basic basslines and drums. also i dont really take myself too seriously and dont plan on turning this into a career.
He’s not wrong, he thinks today’s popular music is severely lacking (which is backed by the numbers) and he likes to come up with ideas as to WHY it might be. He doesn’t state anything as fact, and that’s why he can’t be wrong
if he doesnt say facts that means he says opinions which means he can be wrong
Nah, Rick is just falling into the bullshit that all cranky old people get once their relevance to modern art wanes: he has become too lazy to seek out new art that would appeal to him and instead of leaving his comfort zone, he bitches and moans about how great the old days were because it is easier. He couldn't be more wrong about this topic.
@@sflonghorn the fact people have come to think the only cultural importance for music is to be appealing to its core audience is one of the primary symptoms of music sucking so badly these days.
@@onlinescammer8291 ahh yes, the true sign of great art: appealing to as wide of an audience as possible instead of being a true expression of the artist 🙄guys like Rick are the cause of their own problems with the music industry. Boohoo now I have to engage with the art instead of having a major label curate everything I get to experience
@@sflonghornMusic used to be valuable beyond just being an appealing thing to listen to. You're so belligerent you can't even process what someone is saying to you, right now.
Both you and Rick are on youtube and that's all I need to know about either of you. It's on the internet - so what ? My personal opinion is that you used Rick's name because it's more likely to generate views for your channel - but SO WHAT ? Go downstairs and thrash the $hit out of your guitar/keyboard/drums/bass whatever. You want to hear good music ? Go form a band and make it yourself do it for fun who gives a $hit if nobody else likes it - playing music is supposed to be FUN. People can say whatever they want but bottom line is what's going on in your head and your ears. The real question is why did I waste two minutes commenting on a youtube video...
yes
Your song sounds like Stairway to Heaven. Also, you are criticizing Rick Beato, yet the quality of his production is much better. To the comments that are saying Rick Beato is not a songwriter, that is completely untrue.
my bad that the quality of my production isnt as good as someone 3x my age!
its very hard for me to learn all these instruments as well as production and engineering :( i have no formal training
as for the stairway to heaven thing, its a TYPE BEAT. this is not meant to be taken seriously, nobody will ever sing or rap or publish this beat in any capacity. tbh the only similarity is the chorus/solo but the exact same chord progression is ACTUALLY taken from “All Along the Watchtower” which again proves my point about how songs recycle the same chord progressions. The verse especially sounds nothing like stairway and if you think it does, youre lying
@Ambience20 - hahah I think the point went right over your head... or, maybe you'd prefer listening to Shinedown? (what Beato actually worked on) ... awful mid boomer music.
@Ambience20 Ok boomer.
@@trentjisung So you admit you have plenty to learn from Rick Beato, yet you made an entire video criticizing him
@@slamcrankRick Beato can do any genre...
Rick was right, but he is WAAAYYYY too late. He listens to dumb dumb music and thinks its interesting. Music started it's true decline the minute that the printing press made reproduction of music easy and available to the lowly poors. If you didn't hand write your melodies, or have them reproduced via scribe for your musicians to perform- you are not making music worthy of listening to. And even worse! once recording became available- you didn't even need to pay a real musician to hear a piece performed. you could just spin up a cylinder of wax or lacquer and hear the same performance over and over again. Heck- nobody needs to learn to play instruments anymore because every town could just have music delivered for free over the airwaves with the devils radio machine.
Literally every generation feels like they are living in the best most interesting times, and they are correct. The problem is that the times keep getting interestinger and betterer, but the generations get older and less interested in learning about new tools or sorting through all the crap that is available to find the gems. Young people have time and energy to sort though the mess to find the good stuff. Old folks have jobs and other responsibilites and interests pulling their attention from the work it takes to innovate or find the worthy innovation. Except David Bowie- he stayed interesting and innovative until his last breath.
When Rick was a kid, there was lots of crap on the radio, and most pop music objectively sucked by all standards. The Osmonds, and the Partridge Family made lots of money selling crap- The Beatles and Zepplin were important because it was unlike all the other stuff being pushed at the time. There was also a lot of really amazing stuff that nobody heard until years after the artist died or quit music. just like today. But tody, everyone can play guitar if they want to- guitars are cheap and music education is free. it is really just up to the musician to choose to spend the time and energy on what they are interested in. Also the average musician also has to learn about electrical wiring, software troubleshooting, and how effects chains work. Rick is way better at guitar and producing music than you- but he also has a million dollars worth of gear, and 3x your entire lifespan in experience making and playing music.
Easy make it so there IS more crap out there- but also makes it so that there is way more good stuff too. it is easier for crappy music to happen, but also easier for talented and interesting creators to release stuff whenever they want. Sorry for the essay- I am a little younger than rick, but I reject the old man drive to shake fist at clouds about the kids and I have some feelings.
facts theres always been trash music, its just easy to find