“This is a sad career to be in,” Florida teachers reveal why they leave
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Investigative Reporter Katie LaGrone obtained the most recent batch of Florida teacher exit interviews which detail, in their own words, why teachers left the classroom this summer.
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I don't blame teachers for wanting to leave. Kids today are ungrateful, violent, and out of control today on a scale never before seen. Parents don't parent - let alone discipline their kids, they expect the schools to do that for them, parents don't support the teachers in any way, social media has influenced and ruined their kids behavior.
Yeah you exactly right! Omg...if u ask me they are way under paid for all the stress the put up with! Nobody becomes a teacher for the money! They do it because they love it and now that profession is in a tail spin.
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then when they try to discipline them, they go to the school and threaten them.
There is nothing to teach after Florida threw out tradition, common sense, books (burned) and history for what they call revised history. Glad to learn that slavery was mutually agreed upon by the grateful slaves. So very happy that after visiting for Florida for five months, I decided not to live there.
Social media has influenced and ruined their kids behavior.
My daughter taught in Palm Beach County for five years. The parents, administration, and state policies were simply ridiculous. She moved to Europe two years ago, where she now receives health care, can afford her own apartment, and saves money.
people have become literally evil since 2017. I was a medical assistant for 13 years and I left in 2020, tired of watching me and my coworkers getting literally abused and attacked by rich entitled old people we're trying to take care of. McDonalds workers were making over $20/hr while I was managing medications and cares for so much less. I'd love to leave this country too...
I'm glad she found a place that values educators.
Hope she never has a naughty FB post.
Funny thing is she's getting all that free money because the US takes care of over 50% of Europe defense budget. Take that away, and she'll be playing alliance to Putin.
@@matthewstephens6502 Hope you find a life . I almost feel sorry for you bye loser freak
How about the most abused of them all, substitute teachers at $15 an hour no benefits.
In Bay County, FL, I got 50$ a day to substitute classes, EVEN 2 years where I was a permanent sub, I still got 50$ a day. 8 years ago.
@@LoveLee-jz1tjNot bad for babysitting.
@@spankyssurprise1361 Stupid, ignorant remark!
@@cawo6580 Reality...my father subbed for years following his retirement.
@@cawo6580 It's reality.
I wanted to teach, back in 2008 every teacher i spoke to told me not to do it. I am so glad i listened.
SOMETIMES…..Mixing is a mistake (look at the results)🤷🤷🏿🤷🏻
@@prmath your kind is not welcome here. Shoo lil doggy be gone. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.
smart move. My wife got out in 2012. She started teaching at a Catholic school many years earlier. Discipline was allowed there. Her pay sucked, but if she had it to do over, I wonder if she would have stayed that route. Anyway...
@prmath You do realize we never truly desegregated, right?
@ I worked over 30 years in and around the hood and I can Promise you that this issue works Both ways.
The testing is rarely THE reason teachers leave...
It's exhausting. Pay is low. Child and parent behaviors are shocking
Yes. 100%
100%
My wife taught for many years, and I can tell you lack of support from administration (maybe depends on the school) and, especially, child and parent behaviors, were far and away biggest reason she got out (in 2012).
Child behaviors are really shocking anywhere in the world
I don't think testing itself is the reason but obsession with data after the testing. You can see a student improving and learning but they still fail the test. And rather than look at the growth administration wants to know why they aren't meeting the standards.
It's the cellphones, people. Get them out of the hands of the kids and you'll begin to see a slight shift toward the better. Get them out of a parent's hand, where they start paying attention to their kids, then you'll see a return to normalcy. Teacher of 20 years here.
Considering all the school shootings, it's going to be a tough sell for parents to agree to taking their kids' cell phones away.
@@ga6589having a child live in constant fear is a sad reflection of our society. Parents better get involved and get loud. No child should have to carry a phone with the thought they might get shot that day, how do they concentrate on their studies?
THIS IS INSANITY
@@ga6589 Just revert to non-smart phones that only do phone calls and text. Same safety and communication benefits with none of the downsides (social media addiction, etc.)
It would sure help. Make kids check them in at beginning of day, they get them back at end of day. Use for behavior, too - if you behave, you get to use on your lunch hour. You don't behave, then, no.
Talking to each other and learning how to socialize should be happening at lunch. Not staring at a screen.
Those two kids at the end of this video won’t last a month once they get out into the classroom. I taught for 2 1/2 years in Florida, and it was disgusting between the insultingly low pay, atrocious student behavior, and the grade fraud that happens for the sake of inflated graduation rates.
Facts!😂
Grade fraud?!
Thank you for that last point. I suspected as much.
As suspected
Seriously. It is all idealistic perceptions when they are on the outside looking in. Wait until they actually need to survive on teacher pay, then trying to support a family on teacher pay.
😂😅school bus drivers have the same problem, children parents are always right😅😂
It was a challenging job 25 years ago when I retired. It has only gotten harder.
It was bad when I taught, 51 years ago.
Discipline should be ALLOWED to start at home and continue into the classroom. When a kid knows their parents are going to get a call from the school because of something stupid, the kid should be afraid of the consequences.
More than 40% parents struggle, daily emotionally, and mentally. As a society, we need to support the family structure, which is struggling to keep up with modern America.
@@MLM68Totally agree with that.👍🏽
Yet the parents say not my kid. 🙄
discipline is allowed at home. parents fail to support the teachers discipline.
dAMN STRAIGHT! Wait til your father gets home meant something when I was a kid!
Being a teacher is NOT worth it.
As a teacher I can confidently say those two aspiring teachers interviewed won't last 3 years. I went in knowing the shite I would deal with and was very realistic the entire way through. The people i was in ed school with with their attitudes didn't make 2 years.
It took three seconds of looking at that young man and I was already saying, "They are going to eat you up."
That is so true. I have had so many student teachers come into my classroom full of criticism for me...they bring in crazy woke ideas and claim all they need is to validate and build on diversity, blah blah. It's amazing to see how the kids run right over them.
I hope you're wrong but I know you're right.
I believe it. I wanted to be a teacher when I graduated highschool but every teacher I spoke to said don't do it. Even the teacher I spent a year aiding as a senior, she said don't do it. So glad I listened.
@@Claudialupper I call BS on what your saying about woke ideas! "Woke" is not the problem in FL. The draconian measures instituted by the "Republican't" Gov. is the problem and you know it.
Bless them. They’ll quit soon enough. Those text books won’t matter when it becomes real life.
It's all about who you know.
@@ErikBoerydvoldemort is dead, man
They’ll tough it out for a couple years then go to a charter or private school.
I thought about going in to education in the early 2000s, but when I saw the reality teachers were up against, I pivoted far away. I don't regret that choice at all.
Florida is one of the lowest paying states for nursing as well. I don’t understand how they have been able to pull that off. I truly believe the hospitals have some of the best lobbyists in the country.
Sad to hear teachers are going thru it too.
More undervalued essential professionals!
By voting for rick scoot and Rubio. It’s sad how this state changed in the past 20 years.
Teachers have always been paid poorly. That is not news. It's these brat kids. Why get paid poorly AND get disrespected by these kids. I work in the system and I can't count how many people are leaving after this year.
The kids are brats because their parents have too much control. Their lil angel isn't the only kid who matters.
@mdm5216 It's because the last generation of teachers banned the Bible and replaced it with Marxism. Teachers educated society out of its moral values. How can you not figure this out?
FL is 50th in average teacher pay! Why wouldn’t every teacher in FL just move to GA & get a 30% bump in pay for the same work? Do you see the problem now?!?
@@tringuyen7519 Common Marxist lie. Why do you love lying, Marxist?
@@tringuyen7519 Marxist lie.
I give those two a year before they realize they went into the wrong profession.
Exactly! I was thinking the same thing.
Wait until they see how awful these kids act everyday, they will wish they never went into this career
maybe not the wrong profession, just the wrong state to work in that profession.
It won't take a year...LOL
It's won't even take a year.
Let's not forget the time-wasting meetings, useless professional development, and bureaucratic state mandates. The lack of time to get things done adds to teacher burnout.
This. Every freaking week. 🤦
This is also a result of parents choice. Parents are not experts on childhood education. Getting someone pregnant or Getting pregnant doesn't make u an epert in childhood learning. People need to wake up. Why educate teachers if we wont listen to them. U might as well let the parents teach whatever they feel like since they know best.
I have 6 or 7 friends who were teachers in Florida, they all quit teaching and I don't blame them. One had the tires on her car slit open, another one was punched in the face because a student got a bad grade. One friend is still teacher but she went to Switzerland with her husband, last I heard she's making better money and doesn't have to worry about any school shootings.
I taught for 6 years. I loved my kids, but I felt like I was literally set up to fail, along with my babies. Administration worked against our team and our students suffered. My health declined because of it and I had to walk away from that career. It's sad.
These kid's behaviors are atrocious. I would stay away from going into this profession at all costs!
*These kids' behaviors
Just wait until those education majors get into the field. I felt the same way they did when I first started. The magical thinking of helping students wears off pretty fast, when reality sets in.
My nephew when we moved to Florida.."Back home I was a C student, here I'm the smartest kid in the school."
Parent don't parent and think their kids can do no wrong. Lack of discipline so the kids are horrible and getting worse.
That is a big factor.
"We can change them!" Girl, bye.
Anyone going to college to become a teacher needs to be educated on why that is a bad idea.
It doesn’t scare you away yet. But it will, give it time.
Like the first day smh
Should continue interviewing these two future teachers and see what happens.
Yes
I don’t blame them. A lot of politics, violence, and lack of support from the system and parents. It’s not worth it . People do not value education or value teachers
The decline of this profession is scary! I left teaching in 2016, and there have been times when I thought I wanted to return. So glad I decided not to go back to all that stress, and low pay!
Those college kids need to RUN! 27 years of experience...in Florida! Run, little ones. Run.
I have five years until retirement. Can't wait. Kids today aren't the same as we were. Something is very wrong with them and the parents just don't seem to care anymore.
I'm a Mexican teacher and today the lawyer told us... The students have all the rights to do whatever they want, you don't, you're the problem not them.
Be sure to include bus drivers that get berated by absentee parents when their kid is told to behave.
If I were them I would add " getting sick all the time" to that list.
Agree, Parents need to keep their children home when sick!!!!! Be a parent!!🎉
as a former teacher, remote online teaching will be the future...
There were times I lost my belief in humanity because of those "kids"
Same!
The kids AND their parents.
Would never encourage a young person to become a public school teacher. Not appreciated and certainly not respected. Crap pay.
My entire life people tell me that I should be a teacher, because of my clear communication style and ability to make things interesting. But, I would NEVER choose to be a teacher and it has never been an aspiration for me. Teaching is a bad job.
Bottom line everyone bully's the teacher. Parents abuse the teachers all the time.
My best friend's daughter taught in our city St. Louis. She taught @ a public school in one of our worse districts(IDK what grade she taught).
She moved to Arizona to teach 3rd grade. After one year she finally said she ABSOLUTELY couldn't do it anymore.
She quit teaching & went into another field.
Let the parents teach their own kids.
Yeah right, the only thing they're going to teach him is breaking and entering
This is nationwide at this point.
Those poor poor college students! I’ll give them 3 years max!
If the money the governor has wasted on book bans, defending stupid laws the government has passed, election police and now investigating people who signed petions there would be a lot more money for education.
That's not how appropriations work. Aren't you an educator? Not one who taught civics I hope.
Y’all kids are bad AF. Admin does nothing, low pay, overworked. WE’RE DONE!
Let’s not get it twisted. The problem is with the district and admin because the people who want to be teachers are there for the children. The people who are there in the district for admin and the main office are there for the money.
Bingo❤
In addition to kids being out of control, parents being irresponsible, the politicians telling experts (teachers) how to do their job has got to be so soul crushing.
That’s why I never went into teaching or nursing. Under appreciated and underpaid.
And over worked.
Teaching is a work of mercy. You have to have children who want to learn.
Those two young individuals need to change course now. Teaching is the worst.
Ah, the young and dumb. Those 2 will find out soon enough.
My cousin Jennifer got her masters degree in administrative teaching.
Salary 20,000. in FL.
she moved out of state to Tennessee were they pay alot more in just starting.
Salary for administrative teaching. 50,000 a year.
and she has kids. Single parent.
she did it for the kids and herself.
FL does not want to pay anyone anything ever.
Too much politics in school. Sad..
You couldn't pay me enough to teach in Florida.
They won't last two years. It used to be five years. That was the average time that people stayed in the profession before quitting and moving on. Veteran teachers, 25+ years, are leaving in droves to either retirement or other professions and quite frankly, the idealists that are coming to fill in those positions are completely unprepared for the lack of support to which they are going to face. They should not expect support from parents, administration, the media or their colleagues. The profession is isolating and the lip service given to training within districts is condescending and for the most part worthless. They are using teachers as the scapegoat for a generation of gentle parenting and entitlement. I could go on and on...I would never encourage anyone to become a teacher today and that does not make me sad...it makes me angry.
It is ABOUT THE MONEY! Very difficult job that should be better compensated. Supply and demand. More money= more teachers, just as any other profession.
The kids are out of control and both public and charter will do nothing. When I told the admin that students threatened to kill me, she blamed me.
I wanted to be a teacher since I was a kid. I would make my siblings and cousins play school all summer. After 20 years, I finally left my career in HR and got my credential. I taught one year and left. Definitely the worst job on the planet. Parents expect laws and schools to parent their kids for them-that’s the problem.
All careers are now sad. Maybe unless we can be promoted to c-level executive, or shareholder, or corporate owner pay & benefits with fewer hours worked like them.
We strike lol. Everything from rent, to boycotting to work. Idk how else we can continue.
Next up legal slavery instead of implied. We pick our plantation and masters. Work almost our entire week for little pay. Give most to landlords and to buy food. But we are free! Lmao 😉
I mean who doesn’t enjoy not being able to have or do much because you have to give most to your master. I’m sorry I mean landlords, shareholders and corporations.
Being in the field for 20yrs
I’d go back and tell my younger self not to go into education. No support, no funding, and constantly being verbally abused everyday
I thought about teaching at one but quickly figured out its not for me.
Teachers are underappreciated, administrations for most schools in adequate, parents delegate their child's success in teachers hands only, formal education is undervalued, and lots of children are disruptive and disrespectful.
Its sad and unfortunate that teachers are not compensated as they should be for all the time and energy required of them.
I regret my choices that led to 25 years, so far, in the classroom. If I knew I could find something outside of education I’d resign immediately.
If kids are getting into fights at school, teacher should be able to fight back either to defend themselves or to stop brawls from getting worse
But then getting in trouble w/ parents for touching their kids or getting fired by the higher ups...
In California, my district starts about 50k but after 20 years, my pay doubled. I was looking at a school district’s pay scale in or near Tampa, FL. It also started about 50k but the scale didn’t even hit 60k after 20 years.
We now start at 62k and was at 138k by year 28. Thirty years ago I started at this same school for $29,500. Let that sink in....
Teacher pay in Florida SUCKS!
The fact that Florida is basically the lowest paying state in the Nation is not even nearly as bad as the amount of unqualified teachers in the classroom. I have seen independent studies that show more than half of the high school teachers in Florida basically can't solve a 9th grade math problem...
Ah.... deluded little children 😂😂😂 talk to them in five years and see how those beautiful sentiments survive. I taught for 34 years at the college level and though my students were wonderful, administration was horrible.
Those poor naive kids. And unfortunately their Florida education and teacher certification will not transfer to a lot of other states.
Florida teachers need to pay out of pocket for insurance to protect themselves from parents. Sick. Parents NEED to do better.
I just left. My #1 problem is disruptive and often violent behavior -- by LITTLE kids! My top solution : Court ordered parenting classes to those whose kids are in isolation or in or out of school suspension more than twice. Parents should be turned in and learn how to be an adult with children who need them.
It would be great if they would interview those same two education college students in 5 years.
Can almost guarantee they won't be teaching any longer.
Who would want to teach in Florida where all curriculums have been politicized to distort and eliminate truth and justice which used to be the American way according to Superman.
That male student teacher admitted he was making the wrong decision but said he was sticking with it because he wanted to. Sorry, you just lost my sympathy by revealing you are making a narcissistic choice against your better judgement. I recently retired after 31 years of teaching. My advice for student teachers is STOP. Pick a trade that will allow you to have a life. No matter how bad you think it is, it's so much worse.
But you all think you can save the world....SMH.
Truth.
This.....YES. 30 years in and it baffles me that a group of eleven year olds can get so little accomplished.
neck in neck between Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Louisiana, Mississippi, West Virginia, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Kentucky for last place in Education, State Employees and Teacher Pay! Top place for "Most Religious", Anti-Labor, Right To Work, At Will, Mandatory Arbitration, subhuman minimum wage. Your Tax Cuts at work!
IDK Argon I teach and work as an assistant coach in Tennessee and make 83,900 in a low cost of living area, and I am not in the highest paying district in the area at all
I finally kit in Aug. This is happening everywhere. Pay, hours, paperwork, no REAL teaching anymore, no help, ect. Very sad
Before becoming a teacher make sure they can’t pull your license if you quit. I read they tried to punish quitting teachers that way.
When I taught high school, I mentioned to my high school students that a kindergartener brought a gun to school and shot his teacher in VA. I was shocked at the response: "What was that teacher doing that made him want to shoot her?" And when I mentioned this same story, as well as the response from my high school students, to my college students, I was even more shocked: "Well, yeah, that teacher must have been doing something to make a kid want to kill her." Teaching is one of the few professions where victim-blaming is normative.
And this is without mentioning the fact that the administration promotes this culture. When a student assaults you, verbally or physically, you are blamed for it. You are forced to apologize to the student in a "restorative" session for creating an environment where the student felt the behavior was appropriate, and forced to do professional development in classroom management.
Scary also
it does not matter? this is year four for me and as much as i love teaching… you can’t ignore the visual gapping holes and cracks in the system.
27 years in public education. I didn’t retire I quit. Do not go into education. It is not what you think it is and you will be miserable 😢
There is no order or discipline in public schools. Kids are out of control. There are many things that can be done...but one of the first is a strict almost military like dress code like they have in the carribbean. No wild hair cuts or artificial colors in their hair, no earrings hanging from your nose. No visible tattooes. No baggy pants or shorts. Shirts must be tucked in. Black shoes only. Any biolation of the dress code the kids get sent home. Next violation 3 day suspension. Again this is just a start,
Throw that textbook away. And maybe interview experienced educators vs someone who hasn’t even graduated.
I agree. This was almost useless. Hopefully they both intend to teach primary elementary because even a middle school will eat him up.
Those illiterate and unruly kids will become adults and discover poverty. They won't like it, and hope an adult school teacher will be able to help them. Should be lots of room in the adult school teacher field in years to come.
Pay is overrated detriment - at least where you live. My wife got out of teaching twelve years ago, and pay was the LEAST reason. Try - ungrateful kids, inability to discipline, lack of support from parents and administrators. That's why she got out.
I’m sure private and charter schools will be more than happy to step in when the public system is so under supported it collapses. For a fee, of course. Not a small one, either.
Then they will be in the same boat, there is no way they are going to get paid well to teach Millions of kids, it works now because they only have thousands.
Tell me about it. Tampa Fl high school crippled by teacher shortage
I knew a girl who studied and got her certificate. She went to an elementary school thinking is was going to be easy and didn't last after a year. Teaching in Florida is just ridiculous. There is so much more unnecessary crap you have to deal with. The system needs to change.
Damn shame 😢
Those education majors don't have a clue. I remember my college days and how sunny and bright and optimistic everyone was. I substitute taught while in school and I knew the other side of the coin. But even then, the students weren't nearly as bad as they are now. This was before cell phones, Tik-Tok and other social media, and all the other negative influences children face today.
A big thank you to all here who are commenting on this topic from experience. I recently began considering becoming a teacher knowing that the situation was bad but WOW...just gonna have to try being of benefit to society in some other way. I know myself very well & I would never be able to accept the kind of disrespect that I'm continually hearing about from former and present teachers, much less getting into a physical confrontation w 1 of these kids without facing serious consequences myself. There are just too many reasons why NOT to become a teacher in Florida.
I would not recommend working as a teacher or law enforcement. I can only imagine how bad the environment is in K-12. I would also avoid working for state government in Florida. In general, the politicians and the public in Florida do not respect law enforcement, teachers or government works. They want lower taxes and want smaller government. Give them what they want and quiet as soon as you can or retire if you can.
The pay is disgraceful in Florida. There is very little upward mobility and growth. It is an insult when uneducated positions in retail make more than teachers.
For those lobbying for for-profit schools, these are the results they were looking for. Project 2025 would be the final blow.
Oh sweet summer children...I would put money on watching your "Why I quit teaching" videos on RUclips next year.
I taught for two years in 2003 & 2004. I saw the writing on the wall back then. I quit and never went back. I’m in career development, and if asked, I will tell them to steer clear of teaching or anything having to do with “public” for that matter
Ask them why they don’t do anything about children being abused.
The two won’t last more than 5 years. They saying those things because they have not experience the real problems of the system yet. Most new teachers say these things. But says the opposite just one year in the field.
Dont complain when property taxes go up, and housing costs/rental costs go up with it.