Tom Thibodeau did a decent job in Minnesota. He took over in 2016-2017 and that year Wiggins and KAT had their arguably best seasons. He took a chance getting Jimmy Butler and if I were to change something, I would have traded Wiggins instead of Zach Lavine. Anyways getting Jimmy Butler to Minnesota was a good idea. He got along with KAT and Wiggins, Kevin Garnett did an interview with Jimmy and he said he had no problem with them. Jimmy had a problem with Scott Layden and Thibodeau for trying to keep him there when he asked for a trade back in the summer. When he was healthy Timberwolves were 3rd in the western conference. Jimmy isn't a top 10 player in the nba, but I'd say like maybe top 20. Tom Thibodeau's biggest mistake was trying to keep Jimmy Butler for the next season. Jimmy wanted a trade in the summer and thibs tried to convince him to stay up until October. After that he admitted he fucked up and traded him for Robert covington and dario saric who have really helped out the Timberwolves so far. He also gave Derrick rose another chance to start over and look at him now, Derrick rose is having his best season since 2011. If thibs never got him would Drose still be in the nba? Tom Thibodeau did bad things, but he also did good things. I'm tired of people calling him one of the worst coaches ever. There has been far worse coaches in this league. He definitely deserves to try one more coaching job somewhere. He shouldn't try to be part of the front office again though. The only successful person to do it is Poppovich in San Antonio. Trying to do 2 jobs at once is too much and I'm sure thibs learned that.
Nathanael Gion He would never run Pick and roll with Towns he sucked as a coach. His Offense sets was mainly iso for Jimmy and Andrew and post up towns
@@vincentgaming1619 He set up pick and rolls for Wiggins and KAT? Wiggins is not a good point forward. 90% of the time Wiggins comes off a screen or just drives to the rim in general, he will get cut off, immediately freaks out and tries to shoot a mid range jumper, which he sucks at. Worst mid range scorer in the league look it up. And if thibs offense sucks why were the Timberwolves 3rd in the western conference last year when the whole team was healthy???
Tom actually did a good job in the draft in getting Okogie, and his ability to get Robert Covington has been ultimately a good thing for the Timberwolves since he helped them acquire talent in the trade to Houston..
Last year he was arguably top 10 w/ jimmy boogie and paul george all fighting for the 10th spot, but this year the emergence of Paul George and Joel has knocked him back a spot, despite making one up for boogie being hurt
@Brandon Smith let's say not the new Warriors but they have challenged them for years to come with the right coach who could get the best out of Wiggins and develop them the right way, you have to admit that
T Wolves get Butler and loose LaVine Markkanen and Butler in the end and just for One Play Off run. One of the badest moves in the last years. Just imagine Towns Wiggins Markkanen Lavine together.
He tried building the bulls 2.0 and again refused to develop the rookies he had in Minnesota. He’s a good assistant coach but no way should he be a head coach again.
the funny thing is t-wolves did not need to trade for Butler, their players timeline was absolutely fine because they were never going to beat GSW. They should have been patient and waited for the right moment.
@@Boney4000 So you saying you could pick 14 other pgs/sgs currently playing rn over Jimmy that right there shows me you don't know basketball & you just read the headlines & what the media feeds you. At his position SG he's top 5 in the league and top 15 in whole NBA right now.
@@paulbarrycuda if you say so dude. One, the discussion is top player, not top at his position. It's at least 15 dudes I would take over Jimmy regardless of position , but I can name at least ten better pg/sg easy...
@@paulbarrycuda let's give it a go. Ben Simmons, steph, klay, cp3, James harden, russ, luka, Damian lillard, cj McCollum. Let's stop at those nine. Who you replacing with Jimmy?
Honestly, I'd only play AD on nationally televised games. It would increase or have his stock stay the same and it would let the country know he's still in hoop shape
Yo the lakers just traded away Beasley and Zubac, in a dumb trade only for cap space. Now they have a free roster spot and since this year is basically a throwaway year. I'm calling it right now, Carmelo is coming to the lakers
@@kamilmusalat no I dont. I said they made a dumb trade. They made a dumb train and now that they made a dumb trade they have free space for Carmelo simple as that. Carmelo is fine.
Really need to look at FIFA Fair Play Rules, teams must field their best team. It's fair play for both teams, fans, and bettors. It's not just whether or not LeBron or AD play or not, it's when do you know and how much does it move the line or affect payouts. It's a legal business in the USA now, needs to be addressed before it is a problem.
@D L. LeBron Durant Irving George Kawhi Thompson Curry Cousins Davis Embiid Lillard Giannis Porzingis Harden Jokik Olodipo Griffin Kemba........... Any one of these guys are better than Jimmy Butler..........is Butler a hard worker? Yes.....but talent wise, he is barely top 20...... Stay woke homie
@@changeit6317 That's like a month into the season. Im talking about when he got hurt they where at least top 4 about a month before the season ended and then dropped to the 8th
He will play Dell Demps you don't get to have it both ways you don't want to trade him right now but possibly you will sit him for the rest of the season stop it
As a T-Wolves Fan I am absolutley frustrated with ownership. Why would they/did they let Thibodeau trade away our whole future too get a not even top 10 player... dude was 28, noone is beating the warriors or lebron.. Now we have an average player on a Max contract, a star player and then the freaking 10-11 Bulls.. Thanks thibbs
I’d take Lavine,Markannen,Chriss Dunn and if every they got Noah on their side,I’m going with this guys over jimmy butler anyday. Jimmy is a silent toxic teammate.
I would fight that NBA rule that healthy players have to play? So many players are healthy and get DNPs every game. To spite the NBA, I would play him 5 mins a game.
Rachel is dumb if she thinks KP was traded because he asked for it an hour earlier. Either he asked way earlier and didnt make it public or more likely Knicks used his attitude to make themselves look better after trading the only hope of NY.
90% of the fucking video is about Anthony Davis and the goddamn Pelicans or Rachel Nichols talking, there's maybe a minute of Thibodeau talking about his time with the Wolves... Gtfo ESPN.
Butler is a good player, but he isn't even an all star this year. he is miles away from top ten. the nba is loaded with talent. Make a list of the best and see where jimmy falls on that list. he's like on the 3rd or 4th page of a google search of basketball star.
All coaches should b black I think.....most of the team is black! How long before they figure this out? Its called relating to your players. Damn I'm smart
I promise if this guys gets another job its only because of his complexion. His time with the wolves was a complete disaster he was ignorant of the roster and down right delusional to think Butler could come here and win a title. I feel like he came only to sabotage the roster to rebuild the bulls and to be honest he should be banned from the state and he gets another job, that shows you just how valuable that skin is in some arenas
Isaiah Thomas's run as the Knicks coach was wayyyy worse. Thibs is not a bad coach. Was coach of the year in 2011 and has a record of 352-246. That's not bad at all. Thibs biggest mistake was being part of the front office. Its very hard to do both jobs at the same time. The only coach who has successfully done both coaching and front office jobs is Poppovich
He called him a top 10 player in the league and yall laughed, then he lead a team to the finals
Then got swept
@@glomoneychaplain3415swept ????
@@glomoneychaplain3415went to 6 bozo wit no bam or dragic
Now we BACK AT IT AGAIN
@glomoneychaplain3415 quiet Diddy Nig...they didn't get swept.
Tom Thibodeau did a decent job in Minnesota. He took over in 2016-2017 and that year Wiggins and KAT had their arguably best seasons. He took a chance getting Jimmy Butler and if I were to change something, I would have traded Wiggins instead of Zach Lavine. Anyways getting Jimmy Butler to Minnesota was a good idea. He got along with KAT and Wiggins, Kevin Garnett did an interview with Jimmy and he said he had no problem with them. Jimmy had a problem with Scott Layden and Thibodeau for trying to keep him there when he asked for a trade back in the summer. When he was healthy Timberwolves were 3rd in the western conference. Jimmy isn't a top 10 player in the nba, but I'd say like maybe top 20. Tom Thibodeau's biggest mistake was trying to keep Jimmy Butler for the next season. Jimmy wanted a trade in the summer and thibs tried to convince him to stay up until October. After that he admitted he fucked up and traded him for Robert covington and dario saric who have really helped out the Timberwolves so far. He also gave Derrick rose another chance to start over and look at him now, Derrick rose is having his best season since 2011. If thibs never got him would Drose still be in the nba?
Tom Thibodeau did bad things, but he also did good things. I'm tired of people calling him one of the worst coaches ever. There has been far worse coaches in this league. He definitely deserves to try one more coaching job somewhere. He shouldn't try to be part of the front office again though. The only successful person to do it is Poppovich in San Antonio. Trying to do 2 jobs at once is too much and I'm sure thibs learned that.
Nathanael Gion He would never run Pick and roll with Towns he sucked as a coach. His Offense sets was mainly iso for Jimmy and Andrew and post up towns
@@vincentgaming1619 He set up pick and rolls for Wiggins and KAT? Wiggins is not a good point forward. 90% of the time Wiggins comes off a screen or just drives to the rim in general, he will get cut off, immediately freaks out and tries to shoot a mid range jumper, which he sucks at. Worst mid range scorer in the league look it up. And if thibs offense sucks why were the Timberwolves 3rd in the western conference last year when the whole team was healthy???
Should have paid Jimmy and let WIGGINS walk or trade him. His biggest gripe was giving WIGGINS the money, knowing he is not a hard worker.
The problem was he was coach and GM that's a bad combo.
I believe Thibbs is a decent coach. A decent man. But he's more of a "player's coach" than a "x and o", strategy oach.
He’s saying that to protect himself, Butler watches the show
thibs is what lebron needs! a defensive minded coach!
@@boypula wouldn't be a good fit thibs would more than likely get let go.
Tom actually did a good job in the draft in getting Okogie, and his ability to get Robert Covington has been ultimately a good thing for the Timberwolves since he helped them acquire talent in the trade to Houston..
Okogie? LOL.
@@smyzo finch somewhat made him not a liability on the floor lately
Top 10!! Cmon man you ain getting a sixers job .
i know man!!
Top 20 maybe, but 100% not top 10
And why y'all on the Internet trolling in he'll beat all yall in basketball easy
Last year he was arguably top 10 w/ jimmy boogie and paul george all fighting for the 10th spot, but this year the emergence of Paul George and Joel has knocked him back a spot, despite making one up for boogie being hurt
@@Submission910 chill dude i ain't top 10 to beat him and he ain't too lmao
Jimmy was a top 10 player in bulls days, no question. You rarely see a player play on both sides of the floor as good as Jimmy does.
No he wasn't
At his best he is a top 20 player
Learn basketball you clown
@@art-sw1de his a cancer to teams he will NEVER win a ring
the dark lord p2p did I say he wasn’t cancer?
That Beat at 1:03 is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That’s great for him but I bet the t wolves got regrets
@Garrison Armand with Lavine and Dunn in the fold the Twolves could have been the new Warriors
Anything Sports24 new warriors 😂😂😂
@Brandon Smith let's say not the new Warriors but they have challenged them for years to come with the right coach who could get the best out of Wiggins and develop them the right way, you have to admit that
@James R never should've maxed Wiggins
Garrison Armand lmao
Tom is a good Coach
@jwahh I hope he does too. There's at least one team out there who can use a better coach. Just don't let him be part of the front office too
Now as a GM that's another story.
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T Wolves get Butler and loose LaVine Markkanen and Butler in the end and just for One Play Off run. One of the badest moves in the last years. Just imagine Towns Wiggins Markkanen Lavine together.
I don't think wolves would've drafted markkanen. Since they picked him for the bulls.
mmdd1996 they would have power forward was the need at the time and he was the best available
Mr. G your spelling is the “baddest” (worst)
Wiggins terrible
Just a bunch of guys that can't close out games, they will still not gonna make it to the playoffs for a lot longer
He tried building the bulls 2.0 and again refused to develop the rookies he had in Minnesota. He’s a good assistant coach but no way should he be a head coach again.
I think he singehandedly ruined Derrick Roses career by playing him into the ground.
hotman718 it was the only way the bulls were gonna win games during his prime, thibs burned all those guys to the ground except for a young butler
@@julioelchavez2889 true look at Joakim Noah too he's busted.
Wiggins doing what? What is Towns doing? Rose had a history of being injuried...
bulls was up in that game I believe
You can't teach/coach desire, hunger and drive to be great. Wiggins and Towns lack this which is a huge problem in Minnesota.
the funny thing is t-wolves did not need to trade for Butler, their players timeline was absolutely fine because they were never going to beat GSW. They should have been patient and waited for the right moment.
Jimmy is top 20 not top 10, but that respect shown by Tibbs is love...
He's top 15 for sure
@@paulbarrycuda I could probably name a strong 15 I would take over Jimmy. I give him the sixteen or seventeen spot...
@@Boney4000 So you saying you could pick 14 other pgs/sgs currently playing rn over Jimmy that right there shows me you don't know basketball & you just read the headlines & what the media feeds you. At his position SG he's top 5 in the league and top 15 in whole NBA right now.
@@paulbarrycuda if you say so dude. One, the discussion is top player, not top at his position. It's at least 15 dudes I would take over Jimmy regardless of position , but I can name at least ten better pg/sg easy...
@@paulbarrycuda let's give it a go. Ben Simmons, steph, klay, cp3, James harden, russ, luka, Damian lillard, cj McCollum. Let's stop at those nine. Who you replacing with Jimmy?
Ramona Schelbourne always gives me a weird feeling 😒🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️
Hey guys just came back from Cambodia, how’d my rams do?
They won the superbowl
Ain't his fault a grown man acted like a baby
Who? It's his fault that he gave Wiggins a max and keeping Butler through the summer when he requested a trade before the season.
Honestly, I'd only play AD on nationally televised games. It would increase or have his stock stay the same and it would let the country know he's still in hoop shape
Yo the lakers just traded away Beasley and Zubac, in a dumb trade only for cap space. Now they have a free roster spot and since this year is basically a throwaway year. I'm calling it right now, Carmelo is coming to the lakers
Theo McClain the funny thing is I prefer Beasley and zunächst 100 times more than Carmelo the iso cancer baller 🤦🏻♂️
@@kamilmusalat that's you.
Theo McClain whatever I understood from the comment that you preferred those too over Anthony.... whatever I think Carmelo isn’t good for any team
@@kamilmusalat no I dont. I said they made a dumb trade. They made a dumb train and now that they made a dumb trade they have free space for Carmelo simple as that. Carmelo is fine.
Theo McClain Carmelo is a cancer to any team
We all know that no one else in that room agreed with Butler being top 10 but they all remained quiet smh hahaha
Love thibs
Jimmy is a topn10 player I agree either top 5 or 10
Really need to look at FIFA Fair Play Rules, teams must field their best team. It's fair play for both teams, fans, and bettors. It's not just whether or not LeBron or AD play or not, it's when do you know and how much does it move the line or affect payouts. It's a legal business in the USA now, needs to be addressed before it is a problem.
Thib going to be next coach for seattle sonics expansion team.
These players want to be traded but not when signing those multi million dollar contracts!
Jimmy Butler is top 25 but not top 10..... He is 3rd best on his team
Bruh Jimmy Butler is the best player on that team
@@Marshmellow556 U don't know basketball
coaches value energy and defense differently ... I agree he isn't top 10...but he would probably be my first choice as co star
@D L. Really.... U cant name 19 players better than him
@D L. LeBron
Durant
Irving
George
Kawhi
Thompson
Curry
Cousins
Davis
Embiid
Lillard
Giannis
Porzingis
Harden
Jokik
Olodipo
Griffin
Kemba...........
Any one of these guys are better than Jimmy Butler..........is Butler a hard worker? Yes.....but talent wise, he is barely top 20...... Stay woke homie
The Wolves did NOT finish 2nd last year gtfoh 🤣🤣
They where second when butler got hurt a month before the season ended. Then towns lead them to the 8 seed
@@jonathanlara4935 the clippers, grizzlies were 1st in west at some point this season it don't mean shit
Jonathan Lara they were never 2nd it was always Houston and GSW they were 4th beforecButler got hurt
In just western conference games they had the second best record behind the warriors
@@changeit6317 That's like a month into the season. Im talking about when he got hurt they where at least top 4 about a month before the season ended and then dropped to the 8th
Thibs looks like he can hook me up on car insurance
Thibs, thankyou for not getting , Richardson and Whiteside for Butler, we Timberwolves fans love ya....
WE COULD HAVE HAD RICHARDSON AND WHITESIDE!?
@@lahkooky504westside3 it was richardson and justise winslow i believe
Chris Paul point god lol it was Richardson and olynyk
@@danny9732 agree
Thibs is O.G.
Jimmy was just going sicko mode on kat and Wiggins that’s all
i would let AD play, and cross my fingers that he doesnt get hurt.
John Wall suffered his injury in his own home, not in a game
Yep. Complications from surgery.
As weird as this us gonna be let's be honest Rachel may piss us all off from time to time but she would still get it
He will play Dell Demps you don't get to have it both ways you don't want to trade him right now but possibly you will sit him for the rest of the season stop it
As a T-Wolves Fan I am absolutley frustrated with ownership. Why would they/did they let Thibodeau trade away our whole future too get a not even top 10 player... dude was 28, noone is beating the warriors or lebron.. Now we have an average player on a Max contract, a star player and then the freaking 10-11 Bulls.. Thanks thibbs
brown brown impatient and wanted to win
ransom is a pretty strange word to attatch to the pelicans.
If NOLA plays AD for 30 seconds per game, would this be legal according to the rule? That would be funny 😂😂
Pretty sure I read the rules was 25mins
I don't think anyone believes Butler is a top 10 player.
lmao hella famous in china
Lmaooo I know he didn’t say they had the 2nd best record record in the west
Well he's not gonna coach again that's for sure... or Stan van Gundy, or Byron Scott...lol catch my drift, maybe avoid THE JUMP coaches
Boston will surprise us with A. D
UMmmmm the T-Wolves never finished with 2nd best record in the west
I’d take Lavine,Markannen,Chriss Dunn and if every they got Noah on their side,I’m going with this guys over jimmy butler anyday. Jimmy is a silent toxic teammate.
Jimmy my favorite. But he's not top 10 in league
uuuuuhhhhh what? things went so well, right?
what the fuck - he said: Jimmy is top 10 player in the league
I would fight that NBA rule that healthy players have to play? So many players are healthy and get DNPs every game. To spite the NBA, I would play him 5 mins a game.
Rachel is dumb if she thinks KP was traded because he asked for it an hour earlier. Either he asked way earlier and didnt make it public or more likely Knicks used his attitude to make themselves look better after trading the only hope of NY.
You fired cause you thought jimmy was top10 lmao
This aged well
Tom Thibodeau was the worst mistake Minnesota has ever made
we're loving him in NY rn
hitching your wagon to KAT was the worst decision you made
Thats was your problem tom Jimmy aint top 10 in the league
When they traded for him he was
SSJ- ROSE
He was last season, this year more like top 20 but he’s still fitting in give him some more time
Stfu 😡 you ain't no professional analyst, like I am.
At the time he was, not this year
Top 10-20, LeBron, KD, Steph, AD, Giannis, Kawhi, Harden, PG, Westbrook, Embiid, Jokic, etc
Of course you don’t have regrets cause you already ruined their future and got paid
I’m confused......he said they finished 2nd in the West lol
Maybe he meant before jimmy went down?
trade or no trade ! you still need to work bec. you still cash checks !
Raptors, Sixers, Bucks
He's like penguin with the voice of batman
Lmao now Tom is talking about what's best for the franchise!
He didn't say💩
Jimmy top 10 players in the league? Top 10 at his position at best...
90% of the fucking video is about Anthony Davis and the goddamn Pelicans or Rachel Nichols talking, there's maybe a minute of Thibodeau talking about his time with the Wolves... Gtfo ESPN.
Butler is not a top 10 player. Stop the madness.
At his peak Butler was deff in the top 10
@@obi_the_president What about everybody else at their peak? oh ok
Play him like 15 mins a game.
Butler is a good player, but he isn't even an all star this year. he is miles away from top ten. the nba is loaded with talent. Make a list of the best and see where jimmy falls on that list. he's like on the 3rd or 4th page of a google search of basketball star.
U cant sit a healthy player. It‘s against the CBA
He not top 10 player bro, you smoking some
Streaks
I want to see Kawhi play with Giannis in Milwaukee
*insert shitty Anthony Davis isn’t loyal to the team rhetoric here*
I'd play his 30 sec if league starts giving me shit
lol what does this have to do with anything going on today
I was surprised they talked about this yesterday. Dafuq lmao
Why would he? He got paid millions and is still being paid millions. I wouldn’t either. 🤣
Boo the Brow !!!
Top 10 player in the league??? He is not even an all star this year
Last 3 years he actually was a top 10 player not this year for sure
The Knicks didn't trade Porzingis that fast, they had been working on it. Mark Cuban is laughing at those clowns now.
Wiggins being a heartless bust is what went wrong, and KAT being a soft lesbian. This team is trash and I hope covington can get out of there ASAP
Jimmy butler is not a top 10 player in the league..
Jimmy Butler is the kind of guy to get multiple coaches fired. His act is so old.
evan browne youre fucking dumb he did not get Thibs fired lmao
Rachel looks better with sleeves 🙂
SORRY......but Jimmy ain’t top10 nowhere😭😭
Jimmy is not top 10
Lol, you should have major regrets
All coaches should b black I think.....most of the team is black! How long before they figure this out? Its called relating to your players. Damn I'm smart
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That’s why they ain’t win nothing. TOP 10????
jimmy butler is not even close of being top 10 player LOL
Calm down Thibs, Jimmy has never been a top 10 player or even a top 30 or 40 lmao
Butler is so not a top ten player. Not close.
I promise if this guys gets another job its only because of his complexion. His time with the wolves was a complete disaster he was ignorant of the roster and down right delusional to think Butler could come here and win a title. I feel like he came only to sabotage the roster to rebuild the bulls and to be honest he should be banned from the state and he gets another job, that shows you just how valuable that skin is in some arenas
Rachel Nichols is hotter than she is a quality reporter
Jimmy Butler is not a top 10 player in the league. I can name at least 20 players who are better than Butler
1st
thibs: terrible, repressive, stubborn coach...
Thibs is one of the worst coach
Isaiah Thomas's run as the Knicks coach was wayyyy worse. Thibs is not a bad coach. Was coach of the year in 2011 and has a record of 352-246. That's not bad at all. Thibs biggest mistake was being part of the front office. Its very hard to do both jobs at the same time. The only coach who has successfully done both coaching and front office jobs is Poppovich
Jimmy is not top 10 🤦🏻♂️
Top 10 players lol , i still can't stand thibs he ruined Minnesota