THE Stevie Ray Vaughan Amp 1964 Fender Vibroverb [ Mods from Fender Guru]
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2019
- THE Stevie Ray Vaughan Amp 1964 Fender Vibroverb [ Mods from Fender Guru].
Hey fellas, heres a quick upload looking at some very easy adjustments that can be made to any old blackface/silverface? Amps to push them into sizzle territory more or increase clean headroom?? For the keyboard warriors out there, i know i know i won't or don't sound like Stevie!! No one can, go back to your finger exercises :]
This is actually one of the video where i am looking for feedback in regards to these mods?? It seems some of the adjustments ive made counteract each other?? I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR SOME helpful feedback if any of you guys out there have recommendations on tubes or tube placements please let me know!! These mods are not finished and im looking to tune her up even more with your help :]
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Great video, Richie...as always!
The Vibroverb is the coolest Blackface, beside a Super Reverb!
Best regards from Austria!
Philip Harrauer Hey Philip !! Couldn’t agree more with you !! Thanks for being here ⚡️⚡️
I traded my Vibroverb 2 years ago...and these mods have me itching to get it back! Sounded fine to my ears.
Definitely need to try the tremelo removal. Loving the videos man, keep it up!
Sounds fantastic (after the tube swap)! Great playing sir!
Great playing as always dude🎸👍
Wow, that mod is killer, can really hear the difference. Think Ill try the solid state rectifier in this old Silvertone I have. Nice video, thanks.
I would recommend against replacing a tube rectifier with a solid state in any old Fender.
I bought my 1967 Super Reverb in 1993 and it had a solid state rectifier installed. It has (I still have the amp) the original ceramic Oxford speakers that sound awesome. At the time I didn’t have a clue about the rectifier as it was pre-internet for me and I was only 18.
I gigged with it for 10 yrs and it was crystal clean all the way up the dial. I had to use a Tube Screamer for any kind of overdrive. The amp sounded great but considering gigging volume for me was at about volume 3 tops, it was honestly a bit sterile sounding.
Fast forward to 2003, I had the solid state rectifier replaced with the correct tube and the amp absolutely came alive, and I could use it at gigs (in a louder band 😅) at around 7 or 8 on the dial and it became absolutely amazing. I retired it a few yrs ago as my back isn’t what it used to be, but it’s the best sound amp I’ve ever gigged with and I’ll probably hold on to it until I’m dead.
I have a video on my channel (I just recorded the VHS tape with my iPhone) from 1996 where I’m using the amp at a gig with the Tube Screamer and while I think it sounds good, it’s no where near as dynamic as it became once the tube rectifier was put back in.
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Louder than the Super Reverb!
I had a '70 SF Super Reverb for 25 years, louder than that is scary...
M8! Thanks for the love and for your presentation. It was the 1st of yours I've seen. I liked how it was practical, audible and that you showed where you got your ideas from.
I do miss seeing the audiences eyes flinch when the pick hits the strings through a Super...
@@ix-Xafra The Super Reverb is the first amp I can turn up without my ears ringing after....Either its quiet compared to Marshalls, or I'm going deaf in recent years
@@PATKRO a Marshall through a closed quad box is a very different experience to an open backed combo.
The frequency response is very different. Maybe the mid response of the Super didn't affect your ears as much. As I'm blind in one eye I'd usually prefer to be stage left to cue with the band without turning too much and I have hearing loss in my right ear.
Supers fill the room. Quad boxes are quite directional.
I miss the sound and feel of my Super, I don't miss lugging it!!
@@ix-Xafra You are right on everything. Closed cabs are searing and one directional. The super sounds great at all angles! I could even turn it around if I needed to and still hear myself. Didn't think about that.
@@PATKRO I often did turn mine around facing backward from in front of me with a mic in front at big gigs or even without at smaller.
The tiltback legs are one of the best features of BF/SF Fenders. Mine had the CTS alnicos and I mostly used it with a maple neck '57 reissue.
My fav Strat was a Tokai I used when I lived in the UK - she was like an L series with cap board but I never got to play it through the Super which was back home in Aussieland.
OK, I just sub'd because you sound great! You remind me of Nik Sevigny and Philip Sayce combined- maybe with a little of your buddy Ross Campbell thrown in there- all great players! My two cents- and I owned a Vibroverb for years with the Cesar (the factory reissue from Fender) mods so I could go back and forth- and I've done most of these mods to my '67 Super Reverb too so I have something to compare them to. Removing V1 does indeed get you more gain immediately at a lower volume. I wouldn't say it turns the amp into a gain machine by any means- but it gives it what I call "that growl" that SRV would get- at around 4 instead of at 7 on the volume. Which, as you know, is still very loud. The SS rectifier tightens up the bass as the amp gets louder- it doesn't "clean up" the tone- so it's not defeating the removal of V1 at all- just makes the bass tone stack have less "Sag"- which some people equate with gain- I don't. Sag to my ears is flubbiness for the most part. Like the gain you get in a Fender Tweed amp. It can sound great- but it's not what you're going for with a Texas Tone. Do the vibrato defeat- but I did it with a switch pot on the vibrato speed control so you can turn it on and off- you can hear the difference there immediately too- it boosts the amps volume and ads a bit more "growl" to the overall tone- very much like the V1 removal does - but on top of that. It's louder too at any volume when you do it. And when you switch back and forth it's a noticeable increase in volume- kind of like a treble booster. As to the other tube replacements- I tried most of them and ended up going back to 12AX7's - they just sounded better to my ears. I ended up selling my Vibroverb because at the end of the day- it was still just too loud for any of the small venue gigs I do even with the "earlier gain" mods. Their just loud ass amps. I rarely gig with the Super Reverb (my favorite amp) because of that too. I'm trying all these mods on my Deluxe Reverb now because it's so much less loud (I didn't say quiet) then the Super Reverb with nearly the same overall tone when I replace the 6V6's with 6L6's and bias them properly.
yjmsrv Thank you so much for being here !!
I really appreciate that info ⚡️⚡️
Sounds awesome
Another brilliant video Richie, always love tuning in, killer tones and playing as always, would love to see a video of you disconecting the tremolo, I've been thinking of doing it to my 66 SR but have been a bit afraid to, so would be brilliant to see how it's actually done, cheers man, Regards Dan.
Hey Danny, from what ive read it should be the same procedure for both of us!! Keep an eye on the channel for the update... And thanks for being here!! I appreciate it :]
Great 👍🏾 job sounds awesome
I think if the tone is good for your ear, it’s good. Keep up the video’s love to see them. 🤘🏻🎶🎸
Thanks my friend.
great playing, wish I had your talent !
This is great! My friend and I were JUST looking at those Fender Guru mods! So glad to hear they really work, it sounds tighter and clearer/spankier , suggestion :) , I had to jump manually from the first tone to the 2nd, might be cool to do the edit from one to the other on your end? TY sir!
Pagnol hey buddy !! Exactly that , tighter and more stout ⚡️⚡️
Yeah good shout !! To be continued ⭕️
Great channel !
Haywire Thank you so much 🦅
I really appreciate you being here ⚡️⚡️
Hey Richie, my dad purchased a 64 used in 68 and used in it in bars and honky tonks until he bought a twin in 77, I have owned it since then, I used it with a lpb-1 to great effect for years, loud, yes but worth it!
Hey brutha miss ya you deserve MORE subscribers for sure
tone is wonderful
Also- I should add that there is a ToneQuest article out there where they found SRV's actual Vibroverb and were allowed to go through it in detail- the mod's Cesar did were actually pretty crazy inside the amp and it was on the verge of blowing up nearly all the time- it sounded the way it did because SRV could play it so damn loud! It was in Vol 8 No 10 of August 2007- you have to buy the report (I did) but it goes through the amp in extreme detail and discusses the actual changes Cesar did to the amp. BTW- I wouldn't do all the mods inside- buy and read the article first for sure- I'd only do the Fender Guru mods. Actually I think the mods you just did sound awesome right where they are- but that could be your playing!
Hi Richie!
Coincidentally, I recently pulled V1 from my Super Reverb....gigged the amp and felt a nice 'transparency' in the tone.
I'm going with it for now....a little bit closer to 'that sound'!
Have you tried the phase inverter swap?? thats a very good one :]
I bet that amps purring !!
Sounds great, nice playing as well. Have you tried The Duallist pedal by Jesse Davey? Classic Texas SRV tone into just about any Fender clean amp. Blew me away and might have dethroned my Analogman King of Tone.
Very good playing. I think you did a very good job capturing the tone. My 1st view of your channel. Are those stock pickups on your Strat? As far as I could tell you stayed on the neck pickup. Correct ?
parachuteman4 Thank you ! Glad to see you here , I think for the most part it was the neck or 4 position?? The pickups are Mark Foleys Pre Cbs winds , I now work with Mark in everything Tone!! Other than the pickups we have some new products coming soon 😊⭕️
Bud, Uncle Doug ditched the tremolo circuit on something recently, can't remember what though, something Fender. Keep up the good work. Where and when are your gigs, be good to hear that in real life and not through laptop speakers!
Killer man
Thanks My Man X
The pedal pawn Texan twang pedal gets the job done
Solid state rectifier tightens up an amp. If you want earlier break up and compression go with the tube! But it sounds great as is.
Thanks for the tips!
The ground-switch on the back of my '67 SR is in use to disconnect the tremolo and back. With the tremolo on, the sound stays more clean and nice behaved. With the tremolo disconnected you get the natural BF overdrive around volume 6, that isn't available in a pedal. Killer!!
MrUponthehill That’s been kinda my findings with the rectifier as well ?? I can’t really decide on what I like best?? I do know though I love the tube Sag for cleaner playing but when I want to push it to those BF overdriven tones the SSR delivers!!
I wish I never let my 67 Super go , just an incredible wall of tone ⚡️⚡️
@@FretJunkies I have the tube rectifier and it's fine for me. I'm not going for specific SRV sound. The SR has original Jensen C10Q's in it; real good balanced speaker for the big sound of the amp. And I use a Ultimate Attenuator (2 ohm version) to achieve the amp overdiven tones at all volumes. You should try the diconnect trem mod; otherwise easily re-done?
What kind of pickups do you have in the strat?
Oi mate! Killer sounds, here. Love your videos. Don't know much about amp mods, besides powering them down (which I don't do because I prefer going the attenuator route), so no help here. But I'll keep tunning in to see where you end up.
Pure curiousity here: why did you put the MF pre-CBS pups in your pre-CBS strat? Why not do it to the other one and leave this one stock?
Cheers
Ricardo Lima Pereira hi buddy great to see you here !!
It started when I just kinda fell out of love with my originals , they are stunning pickups but yeah I just figured I wanted to see if there was anything else I could squeeze out of the guitar !!! Marks Pre cbs set just really resonate with me sonically , I love what they offer and how they respond ...
VERY AUTHENTIC ⚡️⚡️
I dont understand why you dont have 600000 subs
FRET JUNKIE, Does using 5751 tube in V1 make fender amps have more of a clean glassy SRV tone? I want to be able to plug my guitar direct into a fender amp and roll down my volume on my strat to get that clean glassy srv tone, how can this be done?
Cheese is oozing out of this tone. Christ, it sounds good. Guess the player helps too! lol
Another great video mate. One suggestion if I could, I've done this to two of my Fenders. Get a push/pull POT and swap out the stock Vibrato intensity POT for the push/pull. Use that for the tremelo disconnect mod. Keep the original Pot around. Its easily reversed. The trem mod sounds great.
Hey there, this is EXACTLY the kind of feedback im looking for!! Thank you!! Im curious what did you feel the mod gave you?? Bolder?
R.
@@FretJunkies yes more girth for the amp. It definitely adds volume as well and produces an earlier breakup especially when used with the V1 tube removed "mod."
T Williams , thank you I’m going to dive in over the weekend ⚡️⚡️
Very cool suggestion, bro'. Very cool indeed.
@@FretJunkies just my opinion. A Vibroverb dialed in will get you those early, real early SRV tones. Adding a super reverb or Dumble will get you the SRV tones that are in your head but it requires a ton of volume.
My 66 super reverb was worked on and signed by cesar diaz. Not sure what he did to it.
Is that AA763 or AB763 circuit amp?
How many watts does it push
You sold the Super!?! 😭 Damn, I loved that amp. I hear you. I've sold tons of stuff I wish I would have kept. Twas a delicious amp. Wouldn't it be nice to be independently wealthy? Kids and mortgages are expensive...
medic2807 awww man I wish I hadn’t !!! I loved that amp but got caught in a spot and needs must!! I hear ya on the kids and mortgage !!
There's only two mods ime worth doing to that amplifier if YOU want more spank, headroom and a little more volume. First, just remove the V1 for channel 1 and don't ever use ch 1 minus the V1 tube, then leave all the other proper tubes indicated on the tube chart, providing that they are quality functioning tubes, etc.
Stay with the solid state rectifier for tighter bottom end and concerning the "Tremolo" modification. There is an even better mod that allows you to place a on and off pot in place of the original pot, so you can use that gain with the trem switched off and turned on when you want to use the trem for something else. If i remember correctly, the trem mod may be in one of Gerald Weber's early tube amp books or you could contact him directly for advice.
In addition, if you're shooting for an SRV clone sound, then your going to want to use a green ts808 ala tube screamer like Stevie did with the level way up and the gain down low, because the tube screamer pedal has "compression" built into it and it will tighten the tone up and you can just barely hear it on SRV record's, because it gave him the spank it needed to keep up with his dynamic playing style. If you still want it a bit cleaner sounding with less gain, then step down to the 12AY7 in the V2. Clean, loud, bell like tone with a lot of spank and one can assume that the amp was biased hot by Ceaser. Stevie had a great tone, he used heavy gauge strings and beat the living hell out of his Strat's.
Imo, Stevie was heavily influenced by Albert King's tone and playing for the most part.
Personally, I cannot stand the sound of a tube screamer pedal and I would use the tube rectifier for a more percussive harmonic tone around the note or attack. The 15 inch JBL can really bring this out for a more traditional purist tone of that Fender amp that I find pleasing.
I realize that this thread is three years old, but hope this help's you.
Best of luck!
In my opinion the tremolo disconnected works best with a 5751 in the V2 position. In my case NOS RCA 5751......
excelent!!!!!!!!!!
makes a video showing how to disconnect the tremolo! I have a showman and I want to do it! And I do not know how
Emanuel keep an eye for the update :]
@@FretJunkies excellent!!
It is probably something not very difficult but I am always afraid of the danger from the current that the amplifiers handle ... it would be good to explain how to download the capacitors if that is required to do the mods. if you do not require it also comment it so take away fears from users :) peace and excellent idea
@@emanuelbaa1560 you unplug the amp... then turn the power on and standby on.. then the caps will uncharge. make sure the cord is unplugged thou.. and it doesn't work with all amps, but blackface yes.
@@chb8037 I've heard about it but I didn't think it was that way! I will see if the mod requires a lot of knowledge and I will disconnect the vibrato from the showman for that Texan tone thanks!!!!!!
All the other “mods” are interesting but why molest a perfectly intact and rare fender classic? And yes unssoldering the tremolo would be a molestation. You wouldn’t unsolder one of the pickups on a 65 strat? Just a suggestion change one thing at a time so you can tell what change made a a difference
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Thank you much
I did the according mods when I got my Super Reverb and I honestly didn't like it any better. I put everything back to stock and just keep on using my attenuator.
Hey Dominic the one i noticed most was placing a 12ax7 in the phase inverter tube!! That one definitely gave the biggest noticeable change!! Your probably right about the attenuator!!!
I liked the result by taking off v1 and disconnecting the tremolo, but I put a 50kra intensity pot with switch. So you still have the option to use the tremolo whenever you want. It got richer and fuller and with more gain. In phase inverter I prefer the 12at7 tube
I want the cold shot tone.
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@@Marciocp2 thank you...
i am a pretty good player but you a great player but i can't believe you got rid of that super reverb- it was a much better sounding amp in that video you had when you played the two. those 4X10" speakers at 2 ohms- come on man, way better than a 15" at 8 ohms
If you like that pulling the V1, I recommend to you and all Fender X Reverb (fenders with reverb) to get yourself an ABY pedal with phase inversion. Because of the reverb, the two channels on fender amps with reverb are out of phase; the ABY with phase reversal allows you to play both channels at once in phase, so you can blend them like a 4 input marshall or tweed fender- I find it to be a great way to beef up fender amps.
bias the tubes hot ...
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Oh and btw! That comment on your vibes video of you can get a “good Leslie effect” , dude! Let’s just say my Hammond Leslie G pedal is on Reverb.com now! The vibe at high speed sound great! Until I get the real deal Leslie!
Threw my phone I liked the sound better in the first clip!
Ditch the JBL they cut your ears off!!
“I did a lot of work to make these videos” didn’t even change the rectifier tube...
dezionlion hey there!! Yeah if you watch the video properly you’ll see I changed it the day before ? It’s clearly talked about in the video ?? That aside there was a ton of work that goes into these videos ,
R.
I don’t doubt you did work but you could’ve played it stock first then with the mods so we could see the difference, isn’t that the point of the video
If you're running a drive pedal, don't bother touching the inside of the chassis.
I'm not sure how to respond to such an ignorant statement, so I'll just say this for everyone. Shut up.
Dan Pearce Impressive vocabulary, as you alluded to yourself. You don't disappoint and you obviously missed his goal, which was reduced headroom. The mods increased perceived volume. The trem disconnect will make it even louder. Do you even play guitar or pay attention?
Edit: if I were looking to decrease clean headroom and increase overdrive and touch sensitivity in a blackface circuit, I'd play with the negative feedback resistor. Try increasing it. Follow the precautions you've heard about when removing or servicing a potentially hot chassis.
@@luthiervandros internet genius... he didn’t open the chassis. He pulled some tubes.... I’ve done the same thing with a super reverb.. he wasn’t looking for head room. He was looking for a “cranked amp setting” sound at a lower volume, without using an attenuator.