Make Sharon adopted or her parents be adopted by Peggy's family then problem solved. You're welcome, Disney/Marvel. Please send me two million dollars or perpetual royalties.
Not my theory but..... what if all the Stan Lee cameos are really Cap checking to make sure things follow the time line through out this version of the MCU?
At the end of Agent Carter, Peggy ends up with Daniel Sousa and I feel like everybody ignores that. ETA: I wrote this before season 7 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. cane out. I know what happens.
Danielle Tate good ive seen the series and it’s bad. Forgetting about it is best and Steve was her true love and he eventually had her kids in the new timeline
Second Season of Agent Carter was irrelevant. And come on not all of the boyfriends that you kiss becomes your husband. They broke up as in Agents of Shield.
Peggy let Steve go and was with Sousa. But they were never endgame. She married a guy we don’t know and became a mother. But I think she always loved Steve and never really let go. That’s what the writers wanted to tell us when they sent Steve back in the past to Peggy and they danced. They’re soulmates. They loved each other even though both died (in different time zones). I hope u understand what I want to tell u. Peggy never ended up with Sousa (I ship Dousy lol) and never really let him go even though she married with someone else
Their relationship is not weird at all. I truly believe it was true love from the start. They clicked and related to each other so hard. Think about it before Steve crashed the plane the only voice he heard was Peggy's and it haunted him forever. He lost the love of his life which meant so much to him but he never really showed it. I don't think their relationship was weird at all. In fact I inspire to have a relationship like Peggy and Steve with my future women. Steggy forever.
Idk why but I LOVE that beat that starts playing at 7:54. Every time I hear it in Looper’s videos it makes the video better for me. There’s just something about that beat.
It actually is really curious how could someone make an old man carry Peggy's coffin (those things are heavy as FRICK), uNlesSS he is a SUPER SOLDIER and that coffin is HIS WIFE'S. Edit: This would be the first greatest MCU idea that doesn't appear in the comics. Who wouldn't want either a movie, a TV series, or a videogame (or all of them including a book for the nostalgia) narrating what did Steve did in an alternate timeline (or ours too)? It would be sooo cool if he ends up fighting all other iconic Captain America villains like Madame Hydra, A.I.M., Arnim Zola, even a prime Winter Soldier. AND partnering up with the likes of Wolverine, the OG Human Torch (tongue-in-cheek joke here), Noir Spider-Man (cool multiverse addition), Captain Britain, some underrated ones like Namor and Union Jack, or even the OG Nick Fury. The possibilities are endless!!!! Another edit: Obviously Steve and Peggy will live a happy life together (as we've already known) because come on man!! it's the 40's!! Couples used to figure it out better than we currently do!!
Steve wasnt the father of Sharon. When they go back in time and return to the same time the left from, it creates an alternate timeline. So steve made out with sharon in a timeline where he was never the father, then went back in time to be with peggy
The Russos have explained many times that Cap created a new TL and that he got back to the main TL using a Pym particle. Peggy' s kids in the main TL are not Steve's kids.
Although in the writer's version of events, where Steve is part of the main timeline, my theory would be that the Ancient One casts a spell to prevent Steve from being able to interfere with the timeline (like maybe he can only remember things that aren't going to impact the timeline).
@@t.matthies3049 I go with, even if he tried to change things, fate/"it being his past"/time will make it happen. He is able to change something, but then the time-line Rube Goldberg's the original end result. He may be able to change small details, but the end result is ALWAYS the same. (My real-world time travel theory: "All time is happening at once." So you can't change a time-line with travel travel, because you have always traveled back to that time, been in that time, and done what you've done.)
There's the old standby, "because...comics", but it's also worth remembering that Steve Rogers is the man inside running the show. Even in the MCU he doesn't kiss and tell when Sam asks precisely because part of his enhancement is an ability to collate and analyze information at a very high/fine level. What did Cap REALLY DO? We dont REALLY know and because he understands well the seriousness of the information he's carrying around he doesn't give it up. Yes, he became a modern hero but he began and trained to be a soldier and a master spy under the tutelage of the best available. Sharon also didn't tell him she was Peggy's first sister then niece. Sharon was exceedingly tolerant of some of Steve's outdated ideas in the 60s, 70s & 80's. It's tough enough maintaining continuity over a 90 year character arc, so maybe we can suspend disbelief a bit and just enjoy.
The worst implication of the cap-timejump (the way I interpret it) is that the Agent Carter series never happened, which sucks. I thought it was a really fun series and would have loved to see it continue (with a lot less focus on romance, I think the whole back-and-forth love-triangle romance in the second season ruined the show). Also Peggy didn't get to know her BFF Jarvis, which sucks even more, because there has never been a more epic and funny BFF-duo fighting bad guys together.
I love Peg/Jarvis, but imho Cap goes back either during the run of AC or just after. AC starts around 1947 so he could have gone back and timed it so he gets back just before Peg and Daniel get together. He would have read all about her career. People say that he robbed her of her career. I disagree. Since when did Peggy ever do anything she didn't want to? No way she'd let him show up and just take over her life if she wanted to keep doing what she did. So, my personal headcanon is: Steve goes back around the end of AC or a few months after. Peg and Daniel have realised though they do care for one another, it's not the same and they mutually break up, relieved that Steve's return gives them the perfect excuse. Steve becomes "Mr Carter" and low key hides in plain sight, the neighbour who has an uncanny resemblance to Captain America. Peggy continues to work for S.H.I.E.L.D. and the two of them carry out their own little missions on the side (Bucky etc). You can see in EG Bucky fully knows what's about to happen. They've all planned this out. Sharon is a cover all along
@@gretski47 yea steve is much more secretive or whatever but he wouldnt stop her from doing good work, so peggy and him would obviously find a way ti save the world. also cap goes back after the run of the show in 1949, meaning she grieved steve, had a short relationship with daniel, and was about to start shield when steve reunited with her. mcu sharon sucks compared to the comics, but she is actually amazing, but in this version, peggy is the greatest
Actually agent carter was set a year after first avenger which is 1945, so agent carter was 1946, Steve went back in time to peggy in 1949 so the agent carter show did happen, & he came back about 2 years 2 years & a half after the show took place. 😅❤😊
When Steve got back in time from Endgame wasn’t that 1940? That was before she knew the Steve in her TL. Doesn’t that mean that her husband was Steve but from another TL???
Yes, Cap would do stuff. Cap has always done stuff. There was still a lot of "secret" SHIELD bases and resources, available to the Non-Hydra SHIELD agents after it fell. That Helicarrier in mothballs for Age of Ultron. Why "doesn't play well with others" Hank Pym got recruited to SHIELD. Why SHIELD would give the Tesseract to an alien. There could be a myriad of things that Cap/Peggy had always been behind. (There was only a picture of Steve on Peggy's desk. No other husband, just Steve.)
I just want to remind both of you in the comics captain America never went back in time to be with Peggy he stayed in modern times. And at one time the movies we’re going to have Sharon be cabs love interest but they change course and I’m fine with that it is what it is
Capital Black i’m well aware of that that’s why I believe Kevin and Disney decided to go in a different direction and have Peggy and Steve get married in the end.
Steve could have traveled back in time to say 1948 or 1949, to be with Peggy Carter. That would not effect the Agent Carter tv series time line. In the filmed interview, which is mentioned to take place in 1953. Peggy states she has two children, with an unnamed partner. Steve Rogers? Probably. So we have two half super, supped up kids, running around in their 70's, in today's world! Rogers could have easily changed his identity in the late 1940's before wide spread computer records. It wouldn't have taken much for Steve to make himself well off financially. Or even just comfortable. Steve running into himself didn't seem like much of a problem, in the bigger picture of events.
Part of the solution would be for cap to pretend he never went to the future, and simply fought his way back from the arctic. He would not be expected to get back in less than 3 years, so the crash would happened near the end of the war in 1945, and he would not arrive in the US until 1948. After that, it would be a manner of him keeping quiet. Peggy would have know something else happen, but she would have understood the requirements of security. Perhaps he could have eluded to something that happened in Canada after the war, giving the impression that he was involved with their security. Cap would not have interfered because he would know how close it came. That would include having to allow Bucky to go through what he did.
Here's how Steve Rogers could have his cake and eat it too: 1. After taking the last Infinity Stone back to 1949, 2011-Steve time travels back to the 1945 spot where his plane crashed. 2. After watching the plane crash, 2011-Steve rescues unconcious 1945-Steve before he freezes into hibernation. 3. 2011-Steve explains to 1945-Steve how he got there from the future, and why 1945-Steve must keep his mission secret. 4. 2011-Steve climbs into the plane's cockpit and allows himself to be frozen into hibernation. 5. 1945-Steve travels incognito back to America to reunite with Peggy in 1947, who agrees to keep his return secret. 6. 1945-Steve assumes a new identity as Peggy's civilian husband, letting the world think he died in the place crash. 7. After being revived from hibernation, 2011-Steve avoids contacting Peggy until he hears of her imminent death. 8. 2011-Steve visits elderly Peggy at her death bed. She knows he hasn't yet travelled to the past, and keeps her secret. 9. 2011-Steve fights with the Avengers to defeat Thanos and returns the Infinity Stones back to their locations in the past. 10. Elderly 1945-Steve finds the remaining Avengers after the Endgame climax, and gives them Captain America's shield. Note how this allows 2011-Steve to have a fling with Sharon Carter, while 1945-Steve marries his true love Peggy.
Steve goes back in time to be with Peggy , they Marry and have a Family ; Main Timeline , not alternate . They had pictures of each other , not any other people . She has pictures of Her children and herself but no husband ( in that picture ) Syrum starting to wear off so he’s basically the same age but with a lifetime of experience to go with Hers.
OK, so when cap goes back to return the stones we all know he stays with Peggy, but the writers have said that Peggy's kids are in fact Steve rogers kids, also in The Winter soldier when he is watching the short film about the war Peggy is on and she says, "Steve, captain rogers fought his way through a hydra blockade that had pinned our allies down for months, he saved 1000 people, including my husband. Even after he died Steve is still changing my life." When she says, "He saved 1000 men, including my husband." she was saying rogers saved 100 man including himself. When she also says that he still changes her life even after he died that means the endgame cap that went back changes her because they had a family. Wouldn't it also would be weird if your wife liked a different man, no because that man is the future cap
After Capt went back in time, imagine every time little Sharon Carter come visit her uncle Steve and aunt Peggy ... and she want to bounce on his knees .... awkward.
The Russos confirmed that Steve Rogers had been her husband and her kids were his kids, which means that he went back and didn't affect the timeline as we saw it unfold. It's not out of the realm of possibility that she was completely complicit with him staying completely in the background. One thing to bear in mind is that Steve has a rigid code of ethics, which means that he could keep his presence a secret based off of not wanting to alter anything. The other thing is that he probably believed he was in an alternate timeline once he returned as well and never knowing if he was in the prime timeline. So, one big question is whether or not he was at her funeral hiding in the background when we saw it in Civil War.
The writers (Marcus and McFeely) say Steve was always her husband. However the Russo's have stated many times it's an alternate reality and that the "time travel" in the movie is actually Multiverse theory, which Kevin Feige supports.
Her husband has always been Steve, another version of him came to her in 1949. In order for the younger Steve to have that dance, he must not know who Peggy's husband is.
i think peggy carter marries steve and has the 2 kids with him, because in endgame he does go back and live the life he missed with peggy, so the fact that they dont show peggys husband leads me to believe that future peggy who was in the deathbed knew about steve going back in time and living with peggy, so she didnt wanna ruin that surpise for him when steve goes to check on her in the hospital
I find it hilariously hypocritical how many Peggy and steggy stans are justifying their disgusting ship by saying "b-b-but Sharon is only Peggy's niece and not Steve's! There's no blood relation! It's not weird!" When that's the exact criticism of Staron that they had. Sharon was Peggy's niece, not Steve's. Not by blood OR marriage. And yet, they whined about how disgusting and weird and wrong and disrespectful it was. But I'm sorry: no. It's not wrong or weird or disgusting or disrespectful. Steve had no idea Sharon's relation to Peggy when he first developed feelings for her and asked her out. He found out she was her great niece later. Sharon also has never met Steve before and is only familiar with her great uncle who married Peggy in this timeline. Probably that Sousa guy. Steve is NOT her uncle. He's someone her great aunt kissed once seventy years ago. There was nothing weird about them developing feelings for each other and getting together. Not to mention she's the comic canon love of his life and she actually made her debut in comics BEFORE Peggy made hers. This just proves that steggy stans are hypocrites who only hated on Sharon and Staron because they wanted steggy and they bagged on her character, attacked her fans, and sent Emily Vancamp death threats just to be hypocrites about their hatred of Staron by justifying the same kind of relationship that's actually more disgusting and weird when steggy gets back together. I mean, seriously, Steve went back to the past KNOWING that he kissed the woman who will now become his own niece by marriage and he gets to watch her be born and grow up now. That's creepy af whereas Staron getting together with Steve having no knowledge of Sharon's relation to Peggy when he develops feelings and Sharon never meeting him before and the two of them not being related by blood OR marriage was perfectly fine and dandy. This just intensifies my hatred of steggy, Peggy, and steggy shippers/Peggy stans. Not only are you stanning a woman who shoots at her love interest before their dating because someone else kissed him and recruited known Hydra Nazis like Zola to work for SHIELD, but you're misogynistic hypocrites--yes, you are misogynists, seeing as it's clear from your justification of steggy now that the only reason you really hated Sharon was because she kissed Steve, not because of anything bad she actually did. Way to go with your hatred of women and your hypocrisy as you stan a Nazi recruiting, abusive, condescending bitch played by an actress who sexually harassed Chris Evans.
Lol, the Steve and Peggy "romance" was so unrealistic. They never hooked up once and Peggy only kissed him after he juiced up...writers are virgins 🤦🏽♂️
Ok but technology Sharon isn't Steve's niece in that timeline. And Peggy and Steve never officially started dating. They weren't a bad relationship if him and Peggy never happened.
After Agents of SHIELD S7 (final season probably), things get pretty messed up multiple time jumps and Daniel Sousa character absent in history on the day that the met Agents of SHIELD from future and ending up with Daisy's love Thing are pretty complicated did anyone notice this,
Very simple answer to most of your questions. He did start an alternate time-line when he went back to her. All kinds of things changed in that time-line. After her death he used the time travel gear to get back to the Avengers time-line, walked over and sat on the bench. Nothing he did altered the MCU time-line.
Cap was gonna end up in the friendzone. That why they didn't hook up in 1st Avenger. He was too nice. Time travel saved him. 80 yrs later after learning some game from falcon. he goes back to get the one who got away.
Sorry, Disagree. Capt. America and Peggy’s shattered love story is what made Captain America so great. Every single time he opens up his compass to look at her picture, you FEEL his pain and emotion, it morphed from attraction to love, to pain and loss, to fond remembrance. When he returns to live a normal life with her in the past... that’s pure poetry in writing. If that doesn’t warm your heart, you’re dead.
Sharon's not his niece. She would have to be the daughter of the older brother we saw in Agent Carter. That would make Sharon at least in her sixties. She would have to be his great, grand-niece. So, genetically and socially he's fine.
Steve's smart. He knows he has to let bad things happen for a greater good to happen. He probably told Peggy that he had come from the future so his survival needed to be kept secret. Knowing some of what Peggy was going to do he likely went to after the first few years so she could do the first few without him effecting her future achevements too much, and then likely took a new name to hide from history. If he saved Bucky, Tony's parents would not die, so Iron Man would not exist, so the Avengers would not exist, so the Blip would not happen, so Steve would be erased as without Tony he would not be able to travel back in time! He needed Bruce to become Hulk and he had to let Bruce be chased so he would join the Avengers as without Bruce or the Hulk, there wouldn't have been a Blip! If anything Steve Rogers, brace yourself! Might have been very selfish! He allowed all these things to happen just so he could live with Peggy! He was a good man at first, but when he saw a way to get home, he took it and let others suffer! However, he did not cause the original suffering, he just did not stop it from happening. Is that a bad man or did he just want a quite life after so much fighting in WWII and the future?
You tell the story wrong..first ..at the end of carter saga tonys dad say that he wants her in shield and than later we saw tony and captain at shield base in end game.. everything is connect by marvel
I love Peggy and Steve’s relationship but I also love Peggy and Daniel Sousas relationship so I’m glad that they can both happen in different timelines
The worst time travel movie of all time Fact is cap kissing his niece is disgusting And cap allowing older cap to stay in ice while 2023 cap marries peggy and disappeared when old cap found in the ice Think he sly to allow all this to happen
Wrong. Steve creates a new timeline, so what happened in Agent Carter still happened, and the birth of Tony remains unaffected, or anything else because that's not how time travel works. Change in the past doesn't change the future.
It was confirmed that Steve & Peggy were living together in a different timeline. It will probably be explored in WandaVision, Loki & the Multiverse of Madness.
I don't understand why people are still going on & on about how Steve made out with Sharon Carter - ok, she's his 'Great Niece' by marriage. So there is nothing incestuous about the so called 'Kiss' they aren't 'Blood related' only Peggy is. Get over it people.
Cap dates two different "age appropriate" women, neither of which are his blood relation, with no knowledge of their relation when either relationship started, in two different time periods, almost 70 years apart. Peggy was in her mid to late 60s when Sharon was born. No weirder than a guy getting turned into a prefect human with an indestructible shield, then surviving being in a block of ice for 60 plus years.
Does it have to be either or, Hey could be the veteran she married, His niece one know the truth Also, Him no one the future they would be able to sidestep any One Knowing about him
The best thing about the Marvel Comics and the Dream Within A Dream Within A Dream is that people know more about this silly s*** than they do about an extinction-level event like Fukushima hello
BECAUSE it would NOT be the same person. Time changes us & who we become WE cannot change that unless we vhange it ALL. That changes it even MORE. Everything we DO or is DONE to us changes US. Be it good or bad! To change it mayhaps changes tge total person! Think to 1 thing U would change in your life. NOW what does that change in YOU? How about your out look on life? How about WHAT changes ir sparks! Say you actually married the live of your life? Ok whi marries the othet person you do NOT marry? What happens to the life thst will NOT be. The children that will not be. The changes ALL that that changes... PEOPLE whi will nit be born. The ppl that might NOT BE because of that action. Say your great grandson as President....ect actions that coukd possibly change the World! Or the child you di NOT have that did Save the world! Mind boggling! Have you never done the "what if" about a former love or a what IF you could change 1 thing? Maybe a 💋 you so wish you have been brave enuff to do but did NOT! Wow a true love passed by b/c you missed a chance kiss!
Achually he dident achually spend time with the right Peggy cos remember going back in time don’t effect the future so he stayed with an alternate Peggy Carter till she died then jump back in his own universe but I’m guesting she never get dementia cos Steve got future knowledge/ alien tech he can use and plus he saved Bucky from hydra so Bucky never became the winter soldier and died in the 90s at old age
What if Steve goes back in time to marry Peggy and become her first husband? They have a happy family and kids. But they both realize with Peggy being a spy and Steve being who he is, it's too dangerous to remain a family openly so they 'divorce.' Steve can remain in the shadows and still see Peggy, Peggy keeps being a spy, and the kids grow up safe. Maybe not in line with the Russo's vision, but that would be a mindfuck. :D
Do you think Cap should have stayed with the Avengers or gone back in time to be with Peggy?
He should have stayed with the Avengers at least for one another movie
Make Sharon adopted or her parents be adopted by Peggy's family then problem solved. You're welcome, Disney/Marvel. Please send me two million dollars or perpetual royalties.
Stay with Peggy and live the life he deserves.
Stay with avengers and find a Way to bring back natacha
Well I appreciate all the decisions that marvel made
*Steve tells her about time travel.
Petty Carter: What? You kissed our niece?!!
🤣😂
He's definitely taking that one to his grave.
That would be a funny interaction, honestly she would probably just laugh at him
the real question is ... why didn't the TVA track him down
Ummm...Sharon is Peggy's niece. Peggy's SPECIFICALLY. As in, the daughter of HER sibling. Therefore, she is NOT a blood relative of Steve himself.
Sharon is Peggy's GREAT niece, making it even more distant.
It's still creepy he couldn't have her so he got with her niece.
Also a spy so it may just be a cover .
Not my theory but..... what if all the Stan Lee cameos are really Cap checking to make sure things follow the time line through out this version of the MCU?
At the end of Agent Carter, Peggy ends up with Daniel Sousa and I feel like everybody ignores that.
ETA: I wrote this before season 7 of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. cane out. I know what happens.
Danielle Tate good ive seen the series and it’s bad. Forgetting about it is best and Steve was her true love and he eventually had her kids in the new timeline
@@barneystinson6937 but in the main timeline, she didn't end up with Steve, she let him go
in the newest season of agents of shield you see that peggy and daniel never ended up together
Second Season of Agent Carter was irrelevant. And come on not all of the boyfriends that you kiss becomes your husband. They broke up as in Agents of Shield.
Peggy let Steve go and was with Sousa. But they were never endgame. She married a guy we don’t know and became a mother. But I think she always loved Steve and never really let go. That’s what the writers wanted to tell us when they sent Steve back in the past to Peggy and they danced. They’re soulmates. They loved each other even though both died (in different time zones). I hope u understand what I want to tell u.
Peggy never ended up with Sousa (I ship Dousy lol) and never really let him go even though she married with someone else
Best line in THE FIRST AVENGER is "I'm not kissin ya".
Haha 🤣 yes lol at that scene
I grew up watching that movie because my older sister loved it so much we still laugh so hard when we watch it.
Their relationship is not weird at all. I truly believe it was true love from the start. They clicked and related to each other so hard. Think about it before Steve crashed the plane the only voice he heard was Peggy's and it haunted him forever. He lost the love of his life which meant so much to him but he never really showed it. I don't think their relationship was weird at all. In fact I inspire to have a relationship like Peggy and Steve with my future women. Steggy forever.
@@suzannehannouf6934 she was bullying her but they made up and now r friends ans that was a long time ago.
He deserves to be with Peggy he did all he needed to do💯 let em go back in time and live
Loves him for who he is on the inside. Film serum literally brings out the inner you.....
I’m guessing that she just liked that he looked like that before he was a hunky undrunkable piece of candy
She had the pre-serum photo of him.
Idk why but I LOVE that beat that starts playing at 7:54. Every time I hear it in Looper’s videos it makes the video better for me. There’s just something about that beat.
It actually is really curious how could someone make an old man carry Peggy's coffin (those things are heavy as FRICK), uNlesSS he is a SUPER SOLDIER and that coffin is HIS WIFE'S.
Edit: This would be the first greatest MCU idea that doesn't appear in the comics. Who wouldn't want either a movie, a TV series, or a videogame (or all of them including a book for the nostalgia) narrating what did Steve did in an alternate timeline (or ours too)? It would be sooo cool if he ends up fighting all other iconic Captain America villains like Madame Hydra, A.I.M., Arnim Zola, even a prime Winter Soldier. AND partnering up with the likes of Wolverine, the OG Human Torch (tongue-in-cheek joke here), Noir Spider-Man (cool multiverse addition), Captain Britain, some underrated ones like Namor and Union Jack, or even the OG Nick Fury. The possibilities are endless!!!!
Another edit: Obviously Steve and Peggy will live a happy life together (as we've already known) because come on man!! it's the 40's!! Couples used to figure it out better than we currently do!!
Sharon was Peggy's GREAT niece.
Steve wasnt the father of Sharon. When they go back in time and return to the same time the left from, it creates an alternate timeline. So steve made out with sharon in a timeline where he was never the father, then went back in time to be with peggy
Hawkeye fighting Thanos all by himself 😂😂
My Chest His Death Signed at The Beginning.
"Suicide by Thanos"
The way you explain the complications of this relationship...hilarious.
The Russos have explained many times that Cap created a new TL and that he got back to the main TL using a Pym particle. Peggy' s kids in the main TL are not Steve's kids.
false, I side with the writers of it
The Russo's explanation breaks the time-line.
The writer's explanation follows the movie's time logic.
Although in the writer's version of events, where Steve is part of the main timeline, my theory would be that the Ancient One casts a spell to prevent Steve from being able to interfere with the timeline (like maybe he can only remember things that aren't going to impact the timeline).
@@t.matthies3049 I can get behind that theory
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I go with, even if he tried to change things, fate/"it being his past"/time will make it happen.
He is able to change something, but then the time-line Rube Goldberg's the original end result.
He may be able to change small details, but the end result is ALWAYS the same.
(My real-world time travel theory:
"All time is happening at once."
So you can't change a time-line with travel travel, because you have always traveled back to that time, been in that time, and done what you've done.)
The original writes for the first captain America film said they always knew that Steve was the father of Peggy two children.
@Looper, Steve dances with Peggy at 1949. It's revealed in Endgame's script. I have it, I read it, it's 1949.
There's the old standby, "because...comics", but it's also worth remembering that Steve Rogers is the man inside running the show. Even in the MCU he doesn't kiss and tell when Sam asks precisely because part of his enhancement is an ability to collate and analyze information at a very high/fine level. What did Cap REALLY DO? We dont REALLY know and because he understands well the seriousness of the information he's carrying around he doesn't give it up. Yes, he became a modern hero but he began and trained to be a soldier and a master spy under the tutelage of the best available. Sharon also didn't tell him she was Peggy's first sister then niece. Sharon was exceedingly tolerant of some of Steve's outdated ideas in the 60s, 70s & 80's. It's tough enough maintaining continuity over a 90 year character arc, so maybe we can suspend disbelief a bit and just enjoy.
i find the relationship good and it's enjoyable and wholesome, so im happy it worked out for captain america.
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One of my favourite MCU couples!
The worst implication of the cap-timejump (the way I interpret it) is that the Agent Carter series never happened, which sucks. I thought it was a really fun series and would have loved to see it continue (with a lot less focus on romance, I think the whole back-and-forth love-triangle romance in the second season ruined the show). Also Peggy didn't get to know her BFF Jarvis, which sucks even more, because there has never been a more epic and funny BFF-duo fighting bad guys together.
I love Peg/Jarvis, but imho Cap goes back either during the run of AC or just after. AC starts around 1947 so he could have gone back and timed it so he gets back just before Peg and Daniel get together. He would have read all about her career. People say that he robbed her of her career. I disagree. Since when did Peggy ever do anything she didn't want to? No way she'd let him show up and just take over her life if she wanted to keep doing what she did.
So, my personal headcanon is: Steve goes back around the end of AC or a few months after. Peg and Daniel have realised though they do care for one another, it's not the same and they mutually break up, relieved that Steve's return gives them the perfect excuse.
Steve becomes "Mr Carter" and low key hides in plain sight, the neighbour who has an uncanny resemblance to Captain America.
Peggy continues to work for S.H.I.E.L.D. and the two of them carry out their own little missions on the side (Bucky etc). You can see in EG Bucky fully knows what's about to happen. They've all planned this out. Sharon is a cover all along
@@gretski47 yea steve is much more secretive or whatever but he wouldnt stop her from doing good work, so peggy and him would obviously find a way ti save the world. also cap goes back after the run of the show in 1949, meaning she grieved steve, had a short relationship with daniel, and was about to start shield when steve reunited with her. mcu sharon sucks compared to the comics, but she is actually amazing, but in this version, peggy is the greatest
Actually agent carter was set a year after first avenger which is 1945, so agent carter was 1946, Steve went back in time to peggy in 1949 so the agent carter show did happen, & he came back about 2 years 2 years & a half after the show took place. 😅❤😊
Considering how little came from it I think it was a mistake putting Sharon and Steve together in civil war
yea omg i did not like them together
Make that movie Marvel; I want to watch Thanos vs Hawkeye
When Steve got back in time from Endgame wasn’t that 1940? That was before she knew the Steve in her TL. Doesn’t that mean that her husband was Steve but from another TL???
These are amazing and I love every option that could be.
Yes, Cap would do stuff. Cap has always done stuff.
There was still a lot of "secret" SHIELD bases and resources, available to the Non-Hydra SHIELD agents after it fell.
That Helicarrier in mothballs for Age of Ultron.
Why "doesn't play well with others" Hank Pym got recruited to SHIELD.
Why SHIELD would give the Tesseract to an alien.
There could be a myriad of things that Cap/Peggy had always been behind.
(There was only a picture of Steve on Peggy's desk. No other husband, just Steve.)
He went to her funeral. I think that's a bit awkward
@@-autumnfeelings I would say goodbye, of course. Marriage would still be awkward, in my opinion
He means that she was old and he was young and it’s awkward that a young ‘Boyfriend’ came to her funeral
That’s love.
Agent carter was such a good show.
Are we sure cap actually went back? It could be a dream sequence.
Please give us Agent Carter Season 3??
I want to see more of Peggy, Jack, Jarvis, Sousa, Howard, Dottie, and Steve...
I actually would’ve been fine with the Steve And Sharon relationship
Ugh, NO !
No
I just want to remind both of you in the comics captain America never went back in time to be with Peggy he stayed in modern times. And at one time the movies we’re going to have Sharon be cabs love interest but they change course and I’m fine with that it is what it is
@@karlmueller1980 I just don't feel it between them. And it was so rushed
Capital Black i’m well aware of that that’s why I believe Kevin and Disney decided to go in a different direction and have Peggy and Steve get married in the end.
Steve could have traveled back in time to say 1948 or 1949, to be with Peggy Carter. That would not effect the Agent Carter tv series time line. In the filmed interview, which is mentioned to take place in 1953. Peggy states she has two children, with an unnamed partner. Steve Rogers? Probably. So we have two half super, supped up kids, running around in their 70's, in today's world! Rogers could have easily changed his identity in the late 1940's before wide spread computer records. It wouldn't have taken much for Steve to make himself well off financially. Or even just comfortable. Steve running into himself didn't seem like much of a problem, in the bigger picture of events.
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Part of the solution would be for cap to pretend he never went to the future, and simply fought his way back from the arctic. He would not be expected to get back in less than 3 years, so the crash would happened near the end of the war in 1945, and he would not arrive in the US until 1948. After that, it would be a manner of him keeping quiet. Peggy would have know something else happen, but she would have understood the requirements of security. Perhaps he could have eluded to something that happened in Canada after the war, giving the impression that he was involved with their security.
Cap would not have interfered because he would know how close it came. That would include having to allow Bucky to go through what he did.
I don't think I have ever had a relationship which didn't involve weapons fire:(
I have a type.
Sharon Carter was cute until her side profile.
You forget the bruce explain time travel.
Here's how Steve Rogers could have his cake and eat it too:
1. After taking the last Infinity Stone back to 1949, 2011-Steve time travels back to the 1945 spot where his plane crashed.
2. After watching the plane crash, 2011-Steve rescues unconcious 1945-Steve before he freezes into hibernation.
3. 2011-Steve explains to 1945-Steve how he got there from the future, and why 1945-Steve must keep his mission secret.
4. 2011-Steve climbs into the plane's cockpit and allows himself to be frozen into hibernation.
5. 1945-Steve travels incognito back to America to reunite with Peggy in 1947, who agrees to keep his return secret.
6. 1945-Steve assumes a new identity as Peggy's civilian husband, letting the world think he died in the place crash.
7. After being revived from hibernation, 2011-Steve avoids contacting Peggy until he hears of her imminent death.
8. 2011-Steve visits elderly Peggy at her death bed. She knows he hasn't yet travelled to the past, and keeps her secret.
9. 2011-Steve fights with the Avengers to defeat Thanos and returns the Infinity Stones back to their locations in the past.
10. Elderly 1945-Steve finds the remaining Avengers after the Endgame climax, and gives them Captain America's shield.
Note how this allows 2011-Steve to have a fling with Sharon Carter, while 1945-Steve marries his true love Peggy.
OF COURSE Steve prefers 21st century food! Back in the day, he was eating Army rations! XD
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Steve goes back in time to be with Peggy , they Marry and have a Family ; Main Timeline , not alternate . They had pictures of each other , not any other people . She has pictures of Her children and herself but no husband ( in that picture ) Syrum starting to wear off so he’s basically the same age but with a lifetime of experience to go with Hers.
people still be talking about cap in 2020
And will still be talking about them in 2220. 😁
It is 2020.
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Sorry. I misread it for 'will' instead of 'still'.
Wtf is your point he’s a huge marvel character
OK, so when cap goes back to return the stones we all know he stays with Peggy, but the writers have said that Peggy's kids are in fact Steve rogers kids, also in The Winter soldier when he is watching the short film about the war Peggy is on and she says, "Steve, captain rogers fought his way through a hydra blockade that had pinned our allies down for months, he saved 1000 people, including my husband. Even after he died Steve is still changing my life." When she says, "He saved 1000 men, including my husband." she was saying rogers saved 100 man including himself. When she also says that he still changes her life even after he died that means the endgame cap that went back changes her because they had a family. Wouldn't it also would be weird if your wife liked a different man, no because that man is the future cap
After Capt went back in time, imagine every time little Sharon Carter come visit her uncle Steve and aunt Peggy ... and she want to bounce on his knees .... awkward.
The Russos confirmed that Steve Rogers had been her husband and her kids were his kids, which means that he went back and didn't affect the timeline as we saw it unfold. It's not out of the realm of possibility that she was completely complicit with him staying completely in the background. One thing to bear in mind is that Steve has a rigid code of ethics, which means that he could keep his presence a secret based off of not wanting to alter anything. The other thing is that he probably believed he was in an alternate timeline once he returned as well and never knowing if he was in the prime timeline. So, one big question is whether or not he was at her funeral hiding in the background when we saw it in Civil War.
The writers (Marcus and McFeely) say Steve was always her husband. However the Russo's have stated many times it's an alternate reality and that the "time travel" in the movie is actually Multiverse theory, which Kevin Feige supports.
So basically steve is Captain Alabama. Period
It was 1942 or 1943 that Red Skull found the Tesseract, not 1941.
Her husband has always been Steve, another version of him came to her in 1949. In order for the younger Steve to have that dance, he must not know who Peggy's husband is.
i think peggy carter marries steve and has the 2 kids with him, because in endgame he does go back and live the life he missed with peggy, so the fact that they dont show peggys husband leads me to believe that future peggy who was in the deathbed knew about steve going back in time and living with peggy, so she didnt wanna ruin that surpise for him when steve goes to check on her in the hospital
I find it hilariously hypocritical how many Peggy and steggy stans are justifying their disgusting ship by saying "b-b-but Sharon is only Peggy's niece and not Steve's! There's no blood relation! It's not weird!" When that's the exact criticism of Staron that they had. Sharon was Peggy's niece, not Steve's. Not by blood OR marriage. And yet, they whined about how disgusting and weird and wrong and disrespectful it was. But I'm sorry: no. It's not wrong or weird or disgusting or disrespectful. Steve had no idea Sharon's relation to Peggy when he first developed feelings for her and asked her out. He found out she was her great niece later. Sharon also has never met Steve before and is only familiar with her great uncle who married Peggy in this timeline. Probably that Sousa guy. Steve is NOT her uncle. He's someone her great aunt kissed once seventy years ago. There was nothing weird about them developing feelings for each other and getting together. Not to mention she's the comic canon love of his life and she actually made her debut in comics BEFORE Peggy made hers. This just proves that steggy stans are hypocrites who only hated on Sharon and Staron because they wanted steggy and they bagged on her character, attacked her fans, and sent Emily Vancamp death threats just to be hypocrites about their hatred of Staron by justifying the same kind of relationship that's actually more disgusting and weird when steggy gets back together. I mean, seriously, Steve went back to the past KNOWING that he kissed the woman who will now become his own niece by marriage and he gets to watch her be born and grow up now. That's creepy af whereas Staron getting together with Steve having no knowledge of Sharon's relation to Peggy when he develops feelings and Sharon never meeting him before and the two of them not being related by blood OR marriage was perfectly fine and dandy. This just intensifies my hatred of steggy, Peggy, and steggy shippers/Peggy stans. Not only are you stanning a woman who shoots at her love interest before their dating because someone else kissed him and recruited known Hydra Nazis like Zola to work for SHIELD, but you're misogynistic hypocrites--yes, you are misogynists, seeing as it's clear from your justification of steggy now that the only reason you really hated Sharon was because she kissed Steve, not because of anything bad she actually did. Way to go with your hatred of women and your hypocrisy as you stan a Nazi recruiting, abusive, condescending bitch played by an actress who sexually harassed Chris Evans.
man. you must really hate hayley atwell or peggy
Quarantine is Boring do you have a source
Quarantine is Boring can i get it. i wanna get my facts straight
I know 2020 was a rough year, but you need to chill out. Maybe get some weed. It'll help you relax.
The things he change in past will do nothing in the present time but for only his time zone
Hey Jon snow is Danyris" nephew
Steve just kissed his niece. That's all that happened. Jon slept with his aunt. If fans can dig jon-daenerys then Steve and Peggy is okay
It’s spelled “Daenerys”
Very nice video.
I named my girl Peggy today cos I know how captain America feels for her. It’s for forever. Dont give a shit about what Sharon was in the comics
Lol, the Steve and Peggy "romance" was so unrealistic. They never hooked up once and Peggy only kissed him after he juiced up...writers are virgins 🤦🏽♂️
Do you-- fondue?
Ok but technology Sharon isn't Steve's niece in that timeline. And Peggy and Steve never officially started dating. They weren't a bad relationship if him and Peggy never happened.
She was my crush when I was younger lol
After Agents of SHIELD S7 (final season probably), things get pretty messed up multiple time jumps and Daniel Sousa character absent in history on the day that the met Agents of SHIELD from future and ending up with Daisy's love
Thing are pretty complicated did anyone notice this,
Very simple answer to most of your questions. He did start an alternate time-line when he went back to her. All kinds of things changed in that time-line. After her death he used the time travel gear to get back to the Avengers time-line, walked over and sat on the bench. Nothing he did altered the MCU time-line.
Sharon could be peggys husband sibling daughter so when cap go back in time Sharon never because caps niece
Cap was gonna end up in the friendzone. That why they didn't hook up in 1st Avenger. He was too nice. Time travel saved him. 80 yrs later after learning some game from falcon. he goes back to get the one who got away.
Sorry, Disagree. Capt. America and Peggy’s shattered love story is what made Captain America so great. Every single time he opens up his compass to look at her picture, you FEEL his pain and emotion, it morphed from attraction to love, to pain and loss, to fond remembrance. When he returns to live a normal life with her in the past... that’s pure poetry in writing. If that doesn’t warm your heart, you’re dead.
Sharon's not his niece. She would have to be the daughter of the older brother we saw in Agent Carter. That would make Sharon at least in her sixties. She would have to be his great, grand-niece. So, genetically and socially he's fine.
Steve's smart. He knows he has to let bad things happen for a greater good to happen.
He probably told Peggy that he had come from the future so his survival needed to be kept secret. Knowing some of what Peggy was going to do he likely went to after the first few years so she could do the first few without him effecting her future achevements too much, and then likely took a new name to hide from history.
If he saved Bucky, Tony's parents would not die, so Iron Man would not exist, so the Avengers would not exist, so the Blip would not happen, so Steve would be erased as without Tony he would not be able to travel back in time!
He needed Bruce to become Hulk and he had to let Bruce be chased so he would join the Avengers as without Bruce or the Hulk, there wouldn't have been a Blip!
If anything Steve Rogers, brace yourself! Might have been very selfish! He allowed all these things to happen just so he could live with Peggy!
He was a good man at first, but when he saw a way to get home, he took it and let others suffer! However, he did not cause the original suffering, he just did not stop it from happening.
Is that a bad man or did he just want a quite life after so much fighting in WWII and the future?
You tell the story wrong..first ..at the end of carter saga tonys dad say that he wants her in shield and than later we saw tony and captain at shield base in end game.. everything is connect by marvel
Yeh, sending Steve back to be with Peggy was a big fail... Can they amend this??
So sad just watched the first avenger a few days ago
Steve comes back in 1949 actually, so agent carter would still be canon
Is saw something where Peggys kids were actually her and Steve’s and that he kissed his niece
I love Peggy and Steve’s relationship but I also love Peggy and Daniel Sousas relationship so I’m glad that they can both happen in different timelines
The worst time travel movie of all time
Fact is cap kissing his niece is disgusting
And cap allowing older cap to stay in ice while 2023 cap marries peggy and disappeared when old cap found in the ice
Think he sly to allow all this to happen
Disney on time travel for ya
@@danwarner7816 agreed
They in Avengers 5 back in time take captain america from the past to the future
Wrong. Steve creates a new timeline, so what happened in Agent Carter still happened, and the birth of Tony remains unaffected, or anything else because that's not how time travel works. Change in the past doesn't change the future.
l ;love Steve and peggy
It’s only the movies, don’t try to make too much sense of it.
It was confirmed that Steve & Peggy were living together in a different timeline. It will probably be explored in WandaVision, Loki & the Multiverse of Madness.
I don't understand why people are still going on & on about how Steve made out with Sharon Carter - ok, she's his 'Great Niece' by marriage. So there is nothing incestuous about the so called 'Kiss' they aren't 'Blood related' only Peggy is. Get over it people.
My favorite ship
Captain America more like Captain Alabama
I would love a movie or short film about their lives together
Excuse me Looper, bite your tongue. This couple is freaking amazing and I will always want more of their story.
*Alabama intensifies*
Cap dates two different "age appropriate" women, neither of which are his blood relation, with no knowledge of their relation when either relationship started, in two different time periods, almost 70 years apart. Peggy was in her mid to late 60s when Sharon was born.
No weirder than a guy getting turned into a prefect human with an indestructible shield, then surviving being in a block of ice for 60 plus years.
They made this before they watched endgame
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Does it have to be either or, Hey could be the veteran she married, His niece one know the truth Also, Him no one the future they would be able to sidestep any One Knowing about him
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. Did Peggy Carter ever appeared in the Captain America comics?
I do remember that she's in the ultimate comics and that's all I remember.
@@aphroditevenus2903 I see, thanks for the info. I only did read the ultimate spiderman comics, not the avengers comics, so anyway thanks.
Dude - you're overthinking this WAYYYYYYY too much - it's just a movie 😊
you have very weird perspectives
Leia kissed Luke...
The best thing about the Marvel Comics and the Dream Within A Dream Within A Dream is that people know more about this silly s*** than they do about an extinction-level event like Fukushima hello
Why didn't Captain America take the Peggy he married to the present day?
Well one it would have messed up the timeline and two he might not have had enough pym particles
Well he liked the 20th century
BECAUSE it would NOT be the same person. Time changes us & who we become WE cannot change that unless we vhange it ALL. That changes it even MORE. Everything we DO or is DONE to us changes US. Be it good or bad! To change it mayhaps changes tge total person! Think to 1 thing U would change in your life. NOW what does that change in YOU? How about your out look on life? How about WHAT changes ir sparks! Say you actually married the live of your life? Ok whi marries the othet person you do NOT marry? What happens to the life thst will NOT be. The children that will not be. The changes ALL that that changes... PEOPLE whi will nit be born. The ppl that might NOT BE because of that action. Say your great grandson as President....ect actions that coukd possibly change the World! Or the child you di NOT have that did Save the world! Mind boggling! Have you never done the "what if" about a former love or a what IF you could change 1 thing? Maybe a 💋 you so wish you have been brave enuff to do but did NOT! Wow a true love passed by b/c you missed a chance kiss!
Besides she HAD lived& loved after he was "gone" that had to hurt! She gound another love & lived her life! Without him.
My guess is he shows up back in time after agent Carter season 2 ends
Achually he dident achually spend time with the right Peggy cos remember going back in time don’t effect the future so he stayed with an alternate Peggy Carter till she died then jump back in his own universe but I’m guesting she never get dementia cos Steve got future knowledge/ alien tech he can use and plus he saved Bucky from hydra so Bucky never became the winter soldier and died in the 90s at old age
What if Steve goes back in time to marry Peggy and become her first husband? They have a happy family and kids. But they both realize with Peggy being a spy and Steve being who he is, it's too dangerous to remain a family openly so they 'divorce.' Steve can remain in the shadows and still see Peggy, Peggy keeps being a spy, and the kids grow up safe. Maybe not in line with the Russo's vision, but that would be a mindfuck. :D
Also u are reading into this waaaayyyy too much
So confusing
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