Chris Broussard Explains Why the Men's NCAA Tournament Isn't as Captivating
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2024
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard and Rob Parker discuss why, despite some interesting storylines to share, the men's side of college basketball doesn't seem to be anywhere near as captivating as the women's tournament.
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I just finished watching LSU vs Iowa. Literally the only game i watched. I'm now watching Juju and Paige. Stars make fights
I wish I could travel back to 1991 and watch Duke Vs UNLV play, when they actually had real teams!
It was a lot like LSU Iowa. Tremendous multi-year storylines, genuine household names on both sides, bad blood, contrasting styles, and great players completely bringing it, no quarter asked nor given.
The refs robbed UNLV
What hurts men’s game that no one mentions is that the best college players are not considered great pro prospects like eddy
💡
This was Chris’s exact point
It could change with g league elite team going under. If wemby were in college now…………
Boom!!
"Big woman" is crazy 😂 she can also be a tall woman Rob
College basketball used to have guys stay there for four years so that you got to know them. The players were able to develop personalities and rivalries. Players didn't hop from one school to the other and developed an identity.
That's all gone now. College basetball has been gutted. Who has the time to keep track of all of these one and done's and movement of players. Unless you are a die hard fan of a certain school, you are not going to bother keeping up with all of it.
For the kids currently in college, nothing has really changed as they'll root for whatever is out there in front of them. So that enthusiasm hasn't changed. But for everyone else, it's just not worth the effort to retool learning every team every year.
7:13 PAUSE
No diddy
That was awarded 😂
@@streetj3susawkward you mean?
That was crazy!
@@ibmor7674😭😭😭
"You got something big coming out your mouth" AYOOOOOOOOOOOO 😂😂😂
They will never talk about how the NBA viewership is so down but these tv personalities will have you believe that people are all tuned in to the NBA and this is including the playoffs
What does that have to do with men’s college basketball? NBA ratings can be down and men’s college basketball can be uninteresting. Two things can be true
For some reason international is tuning in, still novel? If not, NBA is out of business
Ratings down but attendance is up soooo people got money to spend
Basketball made a huge mistake taking sides in the culture wars. Republicans like sports. Pretending that people are racists bc of policy differences is so shortsighted, as well as simply untrue.
@@spenser6353the argument was that the best college aged talent was in the NBA. And that may be so, but it doesn’t translate to viewers.
Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Juju Watkins are stars. The NCAA men dont have the names theyre wasting time on the GLeague Ignite team. Thats why the NBA is getting rid of it
😂 people usually gotta know who the heck they are to qualify as a star
to give the NCAA more stars?
Those girls are stars because they have been playing on the same team for years. Caitlyn is on her 4 year and Angel is the same. The best players in college basketball go on to the draft so you never see great men’s college players sticking around for 4 years. And that’s why there are no stars in the NCAA Men’s Basketball side.
Pretty much @@brucesmith1544
Nba should raise its starting age limit to force players to play at least 2 or 3 years in college. It would be good for the players and the college game. It always takes at least 2 years for a "one and done" player to develop in the nba anyway
i never watch womens sports outside of the 2x a year womens UFC... but this NCAA WBB tournament has been fire. alot more interesting to me than the mens
I don't know anyone who "has not" watched the men's tournament.
Rob to Chris:”You got something big coming out of your mouth.” 😳🤣🤣 7:10
I stopped caring when my favorite team kentucky had a different roster every year. After the Harrison twins left I was done
Me too
Oh so y’all left after they started sucking ass ok 😂
The women stay in school for 3-4 years and we get to see their talent blossom like we did with the men once upon a time in a galaxy far far away. In contrast, we know most of the men only stay in school 1 maybe 2 years. It's no secret that men's NCAA basketball is only used as a requirement to get drafted into the NBA as fast as possible. It's all about the Benjamin's baby!! Facts.
People knew who one-and-doners like Carmelo Anthony, Anthony Davis, John Wall, Derrick Rose, Kyrie Irving, Karl-Anthony Towns, Devin Booker and Zion Williamson were in college. One of the reasons people don’t know men’s college basketball players anymore is because college doesn’t have a monopoly on the top talent. More of the top NBA draft picks are coming from overseas and the G League. Women’s college basketball does.
Exactly. I just looked at the mock draft that's upcoming and majority of the top picks are coming from the g leader and overseas
First year uve watched any wncaa games and ive watched a few of them. Been super exciting honestly.
7:15 😂😂😂😂 whoa
The defending national player of the year who lost to a 16 seed is on a collision course with the reigning national champion trying to get the first repeat in almost 20 years. And y’all think Angel Reese taunting the white girl is more captivating when the TV numbers don’t even reflect it? Yall are brainwashed.
Who’s the national player of the year? I don’t know these players
@@spenser6353Zach Edey. Back to Back
@@spenser6353 a guy who averaged 22 and 13 last season then 25 and 12 this season. You probably know who FLAU'JAE JOHNSON is who averaged 15 and 5. That’s a media creation.
@@Jmay51 zach edey that big slow guy. come on bro. aint nobody tuning in to watch him. dudes game is boring
@@wildncuzimyoung his game dont look impressive
There is an excitement because the women have players that you know. They are not one and done. As soon as any of the men make any type of hype, they bounce to the NBA, or to the G League. The women like Clark and the rest you can market and pub up because they are actually around long enough. Last male player with any hype was Zion, because he was just that special at his size and what he could do athletically and he was on Duke. If the men’s game want to stay relevant, they are going to have to get with the NBA and get rid of the one and done.
There is college teams that are older than okc thunder. And the thunder is 2 or 3 in the west. The talent is not comparable
The women ain't one and done they forced to stay an play
Was not to long ago, I would never watch a womans college baseball game. Today I watch the whole LSU Vs. IOWA game. That was entertaining.
Men college tournament is simply not interesting to watch
I'm watching both. I'm watch the men's game fully though
Ive never watched a womans game ever. I watched thjs iowa game. Clark is the truth and its actually good basketball.
You just dont know any of the players. Media doesnt cover the men unless there is a future NBA lottery pick. If you stay for 3 years, you wont be a lottery pick. So no coverage.
And a lot of these NBA rookies (save for Wembanyama) are meh. And Chet already was there, so I know they are counting it as his rookie year but it’s his second year. There was already anticipation coming in.
@@jmiyagi12345exactly
When we were younger we could name starting 5s…. On multiple teams
@@mr3000sr I remember when the O’Bannon brothers were in UCLA (mid 90s?) I had friends that could predict the draft order for the lottery picks (and a few after) with 💯 accuracy. Because you knew all the players, you knew how good (or bad) they actually were. You hear names now and 3 to 4 years into their career they are good.
@@jmiyagi12345the rookies from the usa sucks. The ones from overseas are where it's at.
The NBA has many problems though. Like Luka said, he thought European league basketball was tougher. That's a problem
It took them almost 6 minutes in but the answer is because you know the players in the women's game better than you do in the men's game. There simply isn't the player movement in the women's game, via the portal, as there is in the men's game. The women's game is benefitting from stability, and the men's game isnt.
This.
Sports are storylines and characters.
I can’t name more than 3-5 college players, and I grew up watching college ball games most Saturdays.
And it’s not because the best men are already in the NBA. All these stars won’t change the WNBA into a profitable business.
One and done and those other leagues, have ruined men’s basketball. Edey is an oddball. Nothing to do with being from Canada. Men transferring at a high clip I believe has made fans over it. Most of these college men are not going to tear it up in the NBA and we can see it.
I'm watching Wrestlemania Saturday
These guys are trying so hard to push women's basketball and it's hilarious because no one cares.
Exactly. Trying to shove women's sports down our throats.
15 million people watched Duke vs NC State
Rob and Chris talkin out they ass. Finally a couple woman’s games get viewers and now that means the men’s is down? No, women are finally catching up and it’s the good games with good scorers that get the best views.
brother the best cbb player is ZACH EDEY. do you not see how big of an issue that is?
Bad analysis
The problem is the best college basketball players aren't even lottery draft picks.
Thank you. Goodness gracious!
@@deepvoicedude4749exactly. Juju paige bueckers and of course caitlin clark sre the wnbas version of lebron, wade and melo at the same time lol. Men college bball doesnt have anything close to that star power
Absolutely, the 2023 UConn Men’s championship team would get destroyed by the loaded 1990 UNLV Runnin’ Rebels. Larry Johnson, Stacey Augman, and Greg Anthony would have a field day. Especially, the 1991 Duke Blue Devils, they were just a much deeper team than the 2023 Huskies.
I just don’t think they bring the same energy that college football does. You rarely see guys with big energy like a cam or a baker mayfield or someone infamous like a manziel. The basketball players seem just ready to get their 10 months over with so they can go to the league
"So many names in the women's game!" Yet only the same 3 names come up. Don't even hear about anyone playing for undefeated S. Carolina.
Bingo
Drew Timme not making the NBA did not detract from him being an exciting tournament player.
Or that white PF from unc last year who’s always ball out in the tourney. I can’t think of his name.
Imagine if you slide Chet to 4 and have Edey as your 5.
Edey might be bad on defense but his offensive gravity will make everybody else's work way easier.
Imagine Edey playing for the Suns or the Hawks.
His impact can be good to great if he gets drafted by the ideal situation.
Ratings say otherwise fellas
clown
I agree with you, but here’s the thing. Ratings are high for men because men still bet mostly on men’s sports. Therefore more, their eyes are glued to the television for men’s games. Popularity, is women. I believe the women, basketball, players, JUJU, Kaitlyn, and Angel Reese both make more than men players. That’s telling
@@Ksmoove39falling as a western society. This is how new age Babylon will fall, it’s always never how you think or prescribed… wake up
@@Ksmoove39right, Clark NIL deal is bigger than all the men’s except for Bronny.
@@CrookedJoeBidenbecause they stay in school longer, so you can market them. We know their names. It’s hard to market someone or set up a rivalry when the good players are bouncing to the NBA or G League after one season.
I have to disagree with Chris. The nfl has a 3 year rule that produces pro bowl rookies and professionals because they have time to develop into professionals. These kids in the nba aren’t ready and it’s why the league is watered down. Especially how unappreciative and privileged they are it’s ridiculous that they don’t play hard and miss games.
Kids are being pampered and not getting grilled on when they’re f’n up
I disagree. The greater level of unpredictability and the higher quality of play makes Men’s March Madness better. Women’s game is more predictable due to concentration of talent.
You haven’t watch for the while. That is boring. This is why I stop watching. It was always UCONN, UCONN,UCONN, in the women’s game. Now, the game has moved away from that be it for whatever reason. Now the team is build around a star or stars.
No repeating stars. It's a one and done sport. The girls stars come back, creates more storylines
I been watching the tournament. Still can’t name one player on UConn or Alabama. Zach Edey and DJ Burns are the only players I can name.
Mark Sears for Alabama is a Jalen Brunson clone. Donovan Clingan (Cling Kong) is a defensive monster. Did you see what he did to Illinois?
If you’re a casual fan, of course you only know 2 names.
So we gonna ignore the fact rob say say to Chris he having something big coming out of his mouth. Super pause😂
Pause for wat. When u not gay no need to say pause
@@deon3133guys obsessed with being anti gay are usually in denial of being gay, according to psychologists. Just be you, with no apologies, Mr. Jaylen.
So true.
S/O the shirt kings yall winning ‼️💯🤣🤣
Gil Arenas was just talking about this. Chris must have watched his take
The one and done and lack of star power hurt them this year. Was there a CC on the men's side?
Since all the best future NBA stars play in the Euro league, what is the purpose of men's college basketball?
You have a few euro players. But the majority of nba players are still American
@@spenser6353Yes, but an increasing percentage of top NBA talent comes from other pipelines. Only one of the first five picks in last year’s draft went to college.
Zach Edey's dad is not 5'8"... he was at the game for senior night he's 1-2 inches taller than his mom so he's probably 6'4 or 6'5.
We've been told for 2 years that Edey isn't a NBA prospect so people aren't curious about his game.
This been the best tournament in a min yall trippin
I’m not a bible thumper or much of religious person… but bastardization is the huge reason for the fall of many great civilizations… wake up man
Totally disagree. Now that all these fools get paid via NIL I don’t have the same interest whatsoever
stability in rosters so much player movement....early entry into the draft...massive coaching changes at schools like Duke, UNC which have yet to settle etc....that said im not sold the women's game is so much more exciting yes you have some names doing damage clark in particular but Duke and NC State had over 15 million views....so there is some interest.
How can they say its not as captivating, are they just going off the cc narrative
you do recognize that this sport thrives off names more than teams correct? and this is supposed to be one of the weaker drafts this century. who are we supposed to be excited to watch again?
@@seen3804 the mens GAMES are way more exciting. I dont care about the names.
@@realking4918 which game was more exciting than LSU/UCLA and Iowa/LSU?
@@realking4918 to you but not everybody. I’m more interested in the women this year
@@realking4918 what game was better than LSU/UCLA and Iowa/LSU?
If you don't like it you dont like it, but the men's tournament has been great.
When your 7'4 east to score and rebound
I feel like, because of WNBA pay structure versus NBA pay structure, the women are incentivized to say in college longer and make the most of the NIL deals. Some of the best players on the women’s side are 3+ year players. This allows the audience to build a type of relationship with them and watch them grown in a sport they dominate. The men, the dominant ones at least, tend to be 1 and dones so we don’t get to see them breaking wild records, and putting up insane numbers,nets with players they can dominate any given night.
Caitlin Clark’s play and stat lines look like Steph Curry’s, one of the biggest and most influential stars in modern basketball. Zach Edey plays like an NBA center from 35 years ago.
@@user-vc1ed9ty8f I don’t think that’s going to happen in the NBA. Edey is projected to be a late first round or second round pick and he probably won’t get much playing time. Hyper-skilled players with diverse talents of all sizes and positions is where the NBA is trending - i.e. Wemby. That’s a bright NBA future to me.
@@user-vc1ed9ty8fA.I responses trip me out 😂
It’s cause basketball is reliant on star power and the men’s don’t have it compared to the women’s
We all know that these Woman cant dunk & alley oop like the men BUT the real reason We are enjoying these Players & Games is COMPETITIVENESS!..that's what we dont see anymore even in the NBA!
It's because of the one and done rule. All the top stars leave after a year.
Where are the stars for this year? The one and dones?
@@Miamora909in the g league or from overseas.
The projected top picks are from France, Serbia and the g league with a few one from Colorado and Kentucky.
I disagree. For the first time ever I actually thought the women's tournament would be more intriguing. They have the stars 🌟. However, the men's tournament is still more intriguing despite the lack of star power. Upsets in the women's tournament is minimal. It's pretty predictable. Every year for nearly 20 years in the men's tournament, there's a team (or 2) that overachieves and creates a buzz
At least for this year.
Is because there’s not a storyline. Is as simple as that!
People like storylines in sports.
Men’s college basketball is different, they stay for one year and that’s it.
Men's have no STARS! Nobody stands out. The women have stand outs.. the men had star Commentators like Dick Vitale once. He hyped a lot of young players to SUPERSTAR status!!!!! Straight hyped them by talking and yelling!!
Men’s game is still better and watched more, but the reason the individual players are not as intriguing as in the past is quite obvious as the great players leave early. There are no great storylines of good players from different teams facing off.
Speak for yourself, I’ve never seen alley-oops and windmills in the women’s tournament
Lol bro stop hating and let the women get their shine because they've earned it womens college hoops is more interesting than the mens currently it is what it is.
It’s nice to see women’s sports getting the spotlight for a change
Men sports get way more of the spot light
Controversy. Conflict. Narrative. Drama. Beef. Those things draw people's attention. Not just the sport. The men's version of the game is aesthetically superior but they don't have the other stuff.
Duke next season
My guys speak facts Duke-NC State had 15 million views and that’s
1 game. Dudes on here talking about what hurts them men 😂😂😂😂. There up 4% from last yr there games average like 8-9 million views. Stop the lies
That sure fire dominate college player did come around a few years ago, and his name was Zion Williamson. But, he’s been injury prone for most of his pro career.
lol blessed with that height given his dad 5'8 i wish man to be that tall
Stars are now recommitting to college thanks to NIL. Look at Dukes incoming frshman class. I think they have like 3 or 4 5stars.
The problem ia we rocused so much on frshman and sophomore players getting the hype, the hype for upperclassman is lost, even if theyre winners. Upperclassman dont get the chances they likely deserve. Also we dont know what kind of player they are gonna be. The tourney is where you saw future stars or at least starters. Those guys now usually have to grind when theyre drafted because they dont have the "upside" as day a one or five but they're value is lowered when they honestly know how to grind, have s higher nba iq, are developed physically.
There are no superstars in the men's tournament..The last one I remember blowing up in the run in and them exploding at the tournament was Ja..
Several reasons, women have to stay for atleast 3 years, they billed up the rivalry, the best women basketball players for the most part are in America. Another thing is in college there isn't a player that plays a superior style of play than in the NBA...Caitlin plays different than even the WNBA women, the shots she launches..Now if you had a Steph Curry type of player averaging 28 a game in college and shooting 15 3's during the low post error you would get more buzz.
Zach Edey should do plenty in the NBA..
Boban
Ratings are better than the Nba
Edey is 22 and he’s a foot taller than most of these cats. Of course he’s dominant. He’s playing a lot of small guys and kids. He will be like a lot of the lumbering 7footers in the nba that put us to sleep…
These college girls don’t just jump right to the wnba because the money ain’t there. They can make money in college and gain more attention over multiple years.
Then best guys in college are gone after one year and we rarely see any interesting storyline that span years. What mad lsu and iowa so interesting is they had 2 stars and a history form last year.
Chris is spot on. If they were good enough they’d be in the NBA already. There’s a whole 22 year old Anthony Edwards that’s a stud in the NBA.
Facts - I can look at Eddy and see that he's not gonna be a beast in the league. Same thing with DJ Burns from NC State. The college game is still a VERY different game
Modern day basketball is just lame, really that simple. The players make the game lame.
By why simple one?
I stopped watching Men's College Basketball years ago. It's too slow. The stars aren't allowed to show out. Clark, Juju, and Angel bring excitement to the game. Without them 3, college basketball would be dead totally
I like Clark but those are terrible shots she takes, the antithesis of team ball. Juju and USC play AAU ball, pure one on one. Angel and LSU actually do play team ball.
@@randallmadison9910 you can call them terrible shots but they go in. Steph has 4 rings by playing that style of ball Clark is playing
You are excited about the drama aka cattiness that probably will happen
Would you call it cattiness if it were men. If not then don’t use it to refer to the women’s game
@@Miamora909 what’s associated with pulling hair?
The men’s tournament has been captivating as the woman’s to me,just the woman’s has more popular names
Yeah I normally don’t watch but I been watching the men’s tournament been very entertaining
Because nobody sticks around for more than a year or two in men's college bball, so you can't develop a fan base or following outside of those who went to the school, have kids that go there or the locals.
It is not as captivating because today’s men have turned feminized and look for drama and a storyline, instead of real competition. All the mens’ games have been highly competitive and great ball. This is really a sad time.
You can’t say “feminized” when the women are playing with more feistiness and edge. The word you’re looking for is “friendly”.
@williecatch9 Feminized is the right word. Looking for a dramatized storyline is what I would describe as feminine. Let's not mistake feistiness for edge and competitiveness. There is no comparison to the strength, power, and above the rim play of the men's game. For this reason, the men's game brings in on average 1.2 billion verses 2.3 million in the women's game. However, I do not belive there has been defense in either game since the late 90s.
@@Unapologetically_Masculine this kind of wordplay worked during the 90’s. Now it’s just outdated. Soft era best describes them. Using feminized is just your way of taking an unnecessary shot at women.
@@williecatch9 Actual words don’t become outdated and work during any era. Modern culture simply doesn’t use them enough. Feminine is from the latin word femina (meaning woman), so this is not a shot at women. This is a shot at men that think and behave like women. I just wanted to provide clarification.
One & Done killed NCAA basketball
Yet, EVERYBODY is watching the men's tournament.
😂 Zack Eddy is gonna be a beast dude theres no center's that are gonna be able to stop him down low mark my words
Ratings say you’re wrong.
U guys Crazy cuz the elite 8 game was the most watched basketball game in the last 2 years including the nba lol
I think the 3-pointer has ruined basketball 🏀 I’m an ODU Monarchs fan and we had one kid jacking up 3s going one on 5. I started YELLIN KOBE everytime and people didn’t like it. Centers and back to the basket play is a lost art
Yes. All of the 3-point shooting has made basketball unwatchable.
I think it’s fairly simple Zach’s game isn’t exciting to watch, Purdue isn’t a “blue blood” college, and he’s not going to play much at all in the NBA so unless you love the university you don’t have a lot to be excited about.
because NC State is not technically a Cinderella story. They're a large school that's just normally not good in football or basketball. I get it, the Jimmy V connection...but still. We finally believed we saw the end of 'Bama's football run with Sabin retiring....only for them to now be a basketball school ugh. That's why nobody cares. We wanted Marquette and Iowa St.
No true rivalries. Players leave after one year. No players to ever build around.. Money and greed ruined the men's side
Basketball as a whole has declined, but at least the college players actually want to play and show some heart and competitive fire out there. And I'm a basketball guy - but what it has become is definitely disappointing. And it could be turned around relatively quickly, but so much of the problem are underlying problems that stem from culture and mindset!
this is going off a narrative. men’s tournament has been awesome this year
Kareem is the greatest and I’m a Iverson, Kobe, MJ guy
The CBB talent is gone by their junior year. So ppl are not as invested in personalities with incredible talent
Huh are we watching the same tournament? You have guys like Keisei Tominaga, Zach Edey, Dalton Knecht, Terrence Shannon Jr, DJ burns just to name a few
All NBA bust 😂 maybe a few speaclist but that’s it
@@Mycarisloose
Or maybe fuk the nba? I’d rather watch celebrity poker than the nba lol
The womens tourney games have been great but lets not pander fellas.
The men are more captivating
UK's one and dones illistrate that is not a good way to win.....