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  • Stars are hugely important symbols in Tolkien's works - and the number 7 comes up many times. Combined, these two important elements make for powerful symbolism to all races of Middle-earth!
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    walking with stars - Kip Rasmussen
    Varda - Aegeri
    Ainulindale - Kuliszu
    Valar - Varda - Kuliszu
    The Court of the Valar - Ralph Damiani
    varda - Jenny Dolfen
    varda, elbereth, lady of the stars - nahar
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    Varda and Melkor - Marya Filatova
    Varda Creating Stars - Ted Nasmith
    Star - Aegeri
    Varda Queen of the Stars - Lida Klavina
    Varda of the Stars at Her Work of Creation - Kip Rasmussen
    Varda creating stars - Daniel Dougherty
    Awakening of the Elves - Kuliszu
    New Star - Alystraea
    beren, luthien and huan - steamey
    The Cleansing of Tol-in-Gaurhoth - Ralph Damiani
    The Death of Finrod Felagund - Anke Eissmann
    Beren - Jenny Dolfen
    melkor vs manwe - felix englund
    Bilbo there - Kinko White
    Frodo Baggins - Matt Stewart
    At the Sign of the Prancing Pony - Ted Nasmith
    bree - lotr
    The Prancing Pony - Aegeri
    Kheled Zaram - Aegeri
    durin at mirrormere - matej cadil
    Kheled Zaram - Aegeri
    Khazad-dum - rafael damiani
    Gimlis Song - Catherine Karina Chmiel
    Kheled Zaram - Aegeri
    Durins Crown and the Mirrormere - Ted Nasmith
    Celebrimbor and Narvi - Ralph Damiani
    hollin gate - ralph damiani
    Mirrormere - Alan Lee
    aule - janka lateckova
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    Elendil - Ralph Damiani
    Cloudy view - Felix Englund
    Gandalf Rides to Minas Tirith - Ted Nasmith
    gandalf pippin to minas tirith - ralph damiani
    The White Tree - Ted Nasmith
    palantir of elostirion - matej cadil
    The Ships of the Faithful - Ted Nasmith
    Misty Mountains - Felix Englund
    Ar Pharazaons ships - John Howe
    Earendils ship - John Howe
    gondor - soni alcorn-hender
    earnil i of gondor - matej cadil
    arwen - kuliszu
    Thus Came Aragorn - Ted Nasmith
    Strider reveals his identity - Anke Eißmann
    Renewed Shall Be Sword that was Broken - Abe Papakhian
    Narsil - John Howe
    Anduril Flame of the West - Artigas
    Aragorn - John Howe
    King Aragorn - Steve Airola
    Coronation - Anke Eißmann
    the crowning of elessar - tolman cotton
    Arwen and Aragorn - Catherine Karina Chmiel
    Counting Stars - Kinko White
    Saruman and Palantir - Angus McBride
    The Dwarf Lords - Ralph Damiani
    The Oath of Feanor - Jenny Dolfen
    Tuor to Gondolin - YidanYuan
    The Court of the Valar - Ralph Damiani
    Morgoth and the High King of Noldor - Ted Nasmith
    Minas Tirith - Alan Lee
    For more information on Varda & the Seven Stars, check out these great resources!
    The Silmarillion
    Tolkien Gateway
    Encyclopedia of Arda
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Комментарии • 232

  • @davidfwooldridge3430
    @davidfwooldridge3430 18 дней назад +441

    Controversial but: in the movies, Pippin lists seven meals of the Hobbits as Breakfast, Second Breakfast, Elevenses, Luncheon, Tea, Supper, and Dinner.

    • @GrowingWherePlanted
      @GrowingWherePlanted 18 дней назад +60

      I had to explain this at work after being accused of taking a 5 hour break. 🙄

    • @worldtraveler930
      @worldtraveler930 18 дней назад +9

      🍺🤠😋👍

    • @mariomandog
      @mariomandog 18 дней назад +11

      Most controversial thing I’ve heard in awhile

    • @Kholdaimon
      @Kholdaimon 18 дней назад +13

      Clearly he omits the most important meal of the day: dessert...

    • @mliz9214
      @mliz9214 18 дней назад +12

      @@Kholdaimon don't worry your hobbity head (dinner is a 3-course meal)

  • @reggiethelion
    @reggiethelion 18 дней назад +201

    Varda, Years of the Trees 1050: *I told you we needed more glitter*

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 17 дней назад +8

      All that glitters is not gold...🤪

  • @MachasDaughter
    @MachasDaughter 18 дней назад +75

    Tour was led to Vinyamar by 7 seven swans in the First Age. The shield he retrieved had 7 swans in the design. The 7 swans gave Tuor 7 feathers which he put on his helm.

  • @tellyhorton3659
    @tellyhorton3659 2 дня назад +1

    Does anybody else find notr comforting & soothing? I'm a big fan of Tolkiens world. I really enjoy the notr content!

  • @fionahireland
    @fionahireland 18 дней назад +81

    LOTR content is like a comfort blanket to me, pure escapism. Thank you 💜

    • @andrewthomas891
      @andrewthomas891 18 дней назад +5

      Better than weed!!!!

    • @StevenOsborne-x6c
      @StevenOsborne-x6c 17 дней назад +1

      You should watch Rings Of Power then; it’s AMAZING.

    • @bionicleguy32
      @bionicleguy32 17 дней назад +1

      @@andrewthomas891literally everything is better than weed 💀

    • @nikolasemov2822
      @nikolasemov2822 12 дней назад

      ​@@StevenOsborne-x6c or idk read the books that no ones inclusive dreams fuced up

  • @weibel34
    @weibel34 18 дней назад +60

    “Leave it to the ents, until 7 times the years have passed that he tormented us, we will not tire.” Treebeard later lets Saruman go.

  • @codster279
    @codster279 18 дней назад +165

    You mentioned the 7 gates of Gondolin, but there are also the 7 gates of Minas Tirith!!

    • @anaragstale7307
      @anaragstale7307 18 дней назад +19

      Not to mention seven levels.

    • @brianhobaugh
      @brianhobaugh 18 дней назад +16

      @@anaragstale7307Seven gates for seven levels.

    • @DrakeMagnum
      @DrakeMagnum 18 дней назад +9

      @@brianhobaugh seven brides for seven stewards

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 17 дней назад +5

      ​@@DrakeMagnumMerry and Pippin once ate 7 pieces of Lembas together at breakfast.

    • @jordanslagle1090
      @jordanslagle1090 15 дней назад +1

      It will happen ! There is a video on it just not specifically in his work, I believe it’s GeekZone Gondor’s Strategy

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk 18 дней назад +10

    "May it be a light for you when all other lights go out"
    One of THE things I've loved about elves, all these years - the emphasis on stars and starlight. Some of my most magical personal experiences happened beneath the stars, so it means a lot to me for that reason too. Love that the Valacirca is the Plough, for some reason I'd assumed it was the Pleiades instead.

  • @jonasvincaskatkus265
    @jonasvincaskatkus265 18 дней назад +24

    I recently made a physics project in constellations. And when I was making, I really wanted to include the elven constillations, so I included Valacirca (as the Big Dipper), Soronumë (as Aquila), Menelmacar (as Orion) and Wilwarin (as Cassiopeia).
    My teacher wondered what they meant, so I (being prepared) told her.
    Also, I made a coat of arms for my class, which includes the Valacirca, but as the Crown of Durin.
    Also also, I was going to ask You to make a video about constellations, but because I didn't have enough time for the project, I didn't.
    Anyways, very good video. I always like when someone is talking about stars, especially those seven stars.

  • @vickk1123
    @vickk1123 18 дней назад +14

    It is also interesting to note that in the Bible the number 7 as well has a meaning of completion, wholeness, fullness, fulfilment. There are also 7 stars, candlesticks etc... I don't know if there is any connection with Tolkein' stars, but interesting to mention.

    • @Beryllahawk
      @Beryllahawk 18 дней назад +1

      It certainly makes sense; Tolkein would've been well aware of the Christian significance of the number. And I think that number's also big in other cultural contexts. It's one of those interesting differences we see in nature and make a big deal about, haha, like four leaf clovers.

  • @valentinkambushev4968
    @valentinkambushev4968 18 дней назад +16

    It was important that even in the darkness of the night... there was light to be seen.

  • @jordanslagle1090
    @jordanslagle1090 15 дней назад +1

    Absolutely enjoy your content Nerd Of The Rings. Thank you. I can not wait for this years content !

  • @Katharsisa
    @Katharsisa 18 дней назад +2

    Hey man thanks for this type of content . It's much easier to consume information wise especially if i want to learn some middle earthen languages in my spare time .

  • @MLP-Trinary
    @MLP-Trinary 15 дней назад +2

    There are also seven great lights of Middle-Earth: the Two Lanterns, the Two Trees, and the Three Silmarils.

  • @duncanramsay9262
    @duncanramsay9262 18 дней назад +18

    Tall ships and tall king's 3 times 3, what brought they from the founded land over the flowing sea 7 stars and 7 stones and 1 white tree. ❤

  • @annaengberg
    @annaengberg 18 дней назад +4

    Great video, as always! Didn't know it's the Big Dipper (or Karlavagnen, as we call it in Swedish...) that Tolkien included in his writings.One of my fav constellations. 😊 I always learn so much from your videos! 😊 What about the stars in the Rings of Power? Where in the lore are those found, if found?

  • @DreadArkive
    @DreadArkive 18 дней назад +8

    Tolkien was secretly a massive slot machine addict, always on the quest for those elusive 7's.

  • @karlad.8762
    @karlad.8762 18 дней назад +3

    As always . . . great video Matt! ☺️

  • @KingOfStopMotion
    @KingOfStopMotion 18 дней назад +15

    "FOR THE SEVEN STARS!"
    -Random Numenorian soldier in Last Alliance Total War

    • @NewAge374
      @NewAge374 14 дней назад +1

      I believe the quote is originally from the BFME2 Rise of the Witch-King expansion, where it was shouted by the heroes of Arnor in the campaign. It's cool how modders use elements between different games to create more immersive projects

  • @kristenrosales2919
    @kristenrosales2919 18 дней назад +5

    Another excellent presentation!

  • @HEXAGRAM-1024
    @HEXAGRAM-1024 16 дней назад +3

    I remembered in the song of Earendil, it is said that"and seven light before them sent"

    • @HEXAGRAM-1024
      @HEXAGRAM-1024 11 дней назад +1

      Also, in the Fall of Gondolin, Tuor took seven feathers of the swans

  • @Katharsisa
    @Katharsisa 16 дней назад

    Thanks

  • @emilsazanda
    @emilsazanda 13 дней назад +1

    A strange chance, if chance it itruly is, we see in Quenta Silmarillion, where the chapter "Of the Silmarils" is counted as being the seventh. Some food for thought...😊

  • @WhoIsCalli
    @WhoIsCalli 6 дней назад +1

    Loved this video. Thanks

  • @RodericGurrola
    @RodericGurrola 18 дней назад +7

    Hey man I’m subscribed to you and Into the Wardrobe. And after seeing your video I realized something Lewis and Tolkien really were close friends and the fantasy novels really are a bit similar Lewis has the Star-people in his world and so does Tolkien. True Tolkien had some disagreements about Narnia but that’s true friendship they will sometimes have strains but that just strengthens it. A little quote from Tolkien. “ The unpayable debt that I owe to Lewis was not ‘influence’ as it is ordinarily understood, but sheer encouragement. He was for long my only audience. Only from him did I ever get the idea that my ‘stuff’ could be more than a private hobby”. As always love your channel 👍🏻👍🏻. Bless.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 17 дней назад +1

      Tolkien just couldn't stand "allegory." 😅

    • @RodericGurrola
      @RodericGurrola 17 дней назад

      @@Enerdhilyea 🤣. Actually fun fact Narnia isn’t an allegory Lewis said so himself and also a guy with a RUclips channel called Into the Wardrobe. Has a video explaining it. But you are 100% correct Tolkien hated allegory. But yet despite his criticisms their friendship was strong. 💪. Bless.

  • @teleportedbreadfor3days
    @teleportedbreadfor3days 15 дней назад +1

    *Professor Tolkien (after being asked about the number seven in his books filled with symbolism and deep messages):* “Oh, seven just happens to be my favorite number, really.“

  • @NewAge374
    @NewAge374 14 дней назад +1

    I had not thought about the significance of the stars above Middle Earth before, but hearing about the different cultural meanings between the Free Peoples, makes me appreciate the worldbuilding much more.
    As usual your information is excellent, so I only want to point out a tiny improvement in terms of pronunciation, which I hope you don't mind: both Cs in Valacirca would have been pronounced the same, as hard Ks, just like the C in Círdan. So for English speakers it becomes va-la-KEER-ka

  • @Jaasau
    @Jaasau 10 дней назад +2

    In Biblical numerology, the number seven is the most holy number, signifying perfection or divinity.

  • @aletheuo475
    @aletheuo475 9 дней назад +1

    The hobbits seem to like the number seven as well: a hobbit will "according to the legal customs of hobbits, which demand among other things seven signatures of witnesses in red ink" and a term for a hobbit mayor is seven years.

  • @hansenhartono7426
    @hansenhartono7426 18 дней назад +3

    Thank you for your content. After watching video about Rohan history, it rekindled my passion to become a writer.

  • @sergiocanelas1908
    @sergiocanelas1908 14 дней назад +1

    And 7 houses of the Dwarves. Happy New Year btw, I would like to see the Map of Middle-Earth in the Third Age.

  • @bjengles3
    @bjengles3 17 дней назад +3

    Seven Stars also there were in the banners of Arthedain.

  • @lukasskywalberg4253
    @lukasskywalberg4253 13 дней назад

    Great video!! Would love to see a video about Durins tower and the endless stair, it is so cool!!

  • @kirandeepchakraborty7921
    @kirandeepchakraborty7921 11 дней назад +1

    Beautiful Episode ❤

  • @BeamTheChao
    @BeamTheChao 16 дней назад +1

    Knowing Tolkien as being an avid Bible reader, the number 7 is used many times over the new and old testament to signify perfection and holiness (in contrast to 6, the "imperfect" number). Surely Tolkien had this in mind when keeping the number's significance in his world!

  • @Dr_Cole
    @Dr_Cole 18 дней назад +9

    This was beautiful. While I am a man of science, the beauty of mythos and iconography inspires me. I knew about almost all of these facts, but did not see how the fit together. Thanks for this great integration video.

  • @taibrandon1409
    @taibrandon1409 18 дней назад +1

    Thanks mate, another amazing video. Are you planning on doing a review of S2 of RoP? Been on the lookout for it and very curious as to what you thought! Thanks again for your amazing videos.

  • @STMukr
    @STMukr 18 дней назад +2

    Yeaaaah! Yessss! Matt is back finally❤😂
    Thks laddie❤

  • @SupremeLadyofDarkness28
    @SupremeLadyofDarkness28 18 дней назад +50

    Thanks for the video! It’s extra special today because it’s my birthday! 🎉
    Edit: wow, thank you all for wishing me a happy birthday! 🥹

  • @bees-17
    @bees-17 18 дней назад +43

    The number seven is used commonly in the Bible and typically represents perfection, completion, and/or divine intervention.

    • @STMukr
      @STMukr 18 дней назад +3

      Amen❤

    • @cp37373
      @cp37373 18 дней назад +4

      Yes, but unlike the fiction of the bible, the Lord of the rings is one of the best fictions.

    • @FredegarB
      @FredegarB 18 дней назад +1

      @@cp37373 blessed be the bitter

    • @kylelavelle8082
      @kylelavelle8082 18 дней назад +5

      @@cp37373, ask Tolkien if the Bible was fictional. Remember evolution is a theory. Always was, always will be.

    • @the_starweaver_2024
      @the_starweaver_2024 18 дней назад +3

      😂even evolution is indeed a thoery that doesnt make bible not fiction

  • @paulm5935
    @paulm5935 15 дней назад +1

    It is clear that Tolkien was both obvious and consistent in his personal favoring of the number 7. Since Christopher is no longer among us, it is less likely, but not impossible to verify this through other family connections. But if a way is found, I'm sure this will prove true.
    Paul M,.
    Atlanta, GA

  • @johnmooers5594
    @johnmooers5594 18 дней назад +3

    When Faramir brings forth the Crown from the casket - is that a special box for the crown or the Casket of King Earnil ? Earnur leaves "it on the lap of his father"

  • @myteachersleepsinschool3652
    @myteachersleepsinschool3652 8 дней назад +1

    The number 7 could be a reference to the Bible since the number 7 is also used many times in the Bible

  • @mliz9214
    @mliz9214 18 дней назад +6

    I wonder if the 7 kings from across the sea might also be inspired by 7 kingdoms of Anglo Saxon England. The kings originally being from overseas.

  • @krzysztofzpucka7220
    @krzysztofzpucka7220 18 дней назад +4

    "And he had in his right hand SEVEN STARS: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength."

    • @krzysztofzpucka7220
      @krzysztofzpucka7220 18 дней назад +2

      "The Pleaides may be a beautiful star cluster today, but ancient peoples all around the world were fearful of the Pleiades, especially in November. In this clip, Randall looks at the various myths and legends regarding the Pleiades and their apparent link to world-wide devastation.
      Our planet travels through the Taurid meteor stream twice per year (late June and late October / early November) The radiant point of the Taurids is located near the Pleaides. In other words, the meteors appear to emanate out of the Pleiades.
      The Taurid meteor stream is actually the remnants of Comet Encke, which entered our solar system roughly 30,000 years ago. Encke was massive, and as it entered the inner solar system it began to fragment. These fragments created a "donut" of debris. As our planet flies through this debris twice per year, we see a meteor shower.
      If we put all these pieces together, the ancient stories of the Pleiades begin to make sense. Our ancestors saw meteors falling to earth in late October, all appearing to come from the Pleiades. Some of these impacts were quite large, causing widespread wildfires and devastation. It's possible the worst event happened roughly 12,800 years ago, marking the beginning of the Younger Dryas...
      After surviving the horrific trauma of the Younger Dryas, our ancestors started a few traditions to preserve the memory of those who died. We still see remnants of these traditions in our modern Halloween and All Souls Day."

  • @mliz9214
    @mliz9214 18 дней назад +13

    Yes!!! Love starry themes in mythology and religion and your voice and the music you use are so relaxing. The art with the music gives an ethereal feel.
    On another nerdy note and apologies if it's a bit off topic but I also can't stop being reminded of Elbereth when I hear the "Hail, Queen of Heaven, the Ocean Star" hymn. The first bit goes:
    "Hail, Queen of heav'n, the ocean Star:
    Guide of the wand'rer here below,
    Toss'd on life's surge we claim thy care;
    Save us from peril and from woe.
    Mother of Christ, Star of the Sea,
    Pray for the wand'rer, pray for me."
    The whole hymn carries on with that theme and when I looked it up on Wikipedia, there was even a section titled 'Tolkien', so it's likely he was inspired by that.

  • @QuasarEE
    @QuasarEE 18 дней назад +2

    Given Tolkien's intense experience with what he called his "Atlantis haunting" I have to believe he must have acquainted himself with various works on the subject. In Eleanor Merry's "The Flaming Door: The Mission of the Celtic Folk-Soul", first published in 1936, she gathers together various sources and legends on the matter and establishes an important connection that spans between all of them - the constellation of the Big Dipper and its symbolism of seven. This includes various sources we otherwise know he was interested in, including Arthurian legend and Welsh and Irish mythology, and also pulls in classical works like the Mysteries of Saturn and ancient material like the Epic of Gilgamesh. The image emerges of a Land Beyond the West, where the secrets of immortality abide. She then goes on to further directly tie this symbolism to the recurring figure of the Queen of Heaven, whom she (and Tolkien almost certainly) identified with Mary, whom he represented in his stories variously but including with the character of Varda.

  • @estherhoward7959
    @estherhoward7959 18 дней назад +2

    Matt, when are you going to do your spoiler review of War of the Rohirrim? I'm really looking forward to it.

  • @Sjforlor
    @Sjforlor 18 дней назад

    Yes! Been waiting for this one!

  • @ralphholder6541
    @ralphholder6541 18 дней назад +2

    I love that user name the mighty mim 😂😂 I wonder who that is.

  • @smm72
    @smm72 17 дней назад +1

    Wow, I didn't get the deep cut of 7s being so meaningful.

  • @Ronnieme2222
    @Ronnieme2222 18 дней назад +6

    Love the vid as always! ❤
    Can we have a video about Adamant- where it comes from, how it's used, and is it better than diamonds??

  • @michaelkelleypoetry
    @michaelkelleypoetry 18 дней назад +16

    Another 7 in Middle-Earth is that Aragorn is known by 7 names:
    Strider, Aragorn, Elessar, the Elfstone, Dúnadan, the heir of Isildur, and Envinyatar.

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 17 дней назад +2

      Gandalf also had 7 names in the movies.
      Gandalf the White
      Gandalf the Grey
      Mithrandir
      The white Wizard (Gondorian soldiers)
      Old Greybeard (Mouth of Sauron)
      Old man (Withking)
      Gandalf the fool (Saruman)

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 16 дней назад +1

      Actually he was called Thorongil as well.

    • @grossepointemichigan
      @grossepointemichigan 8 дней назад

      And Wingfoot.

    • @michaelkelleypoetry
      @michaelkelleypoetry 8 дней назад

      @@daarom3472 In the book, Gandalf has 5 names: Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkûn to the Dwarves; Olórin in his youth in the West that is forgotten, in the South Incánus, and in the North Gandalf, and he doesn't go to the East.

  • @andrewthomas891
    @andrewthomas891 18 дней назад

    The Dwarves were slackers when it came to holding onto their sacred kingdoms!
    Gundabad, Moria, in all fairness if it were not for Bard , the Lonely Mountain!
    Forgive my tangent but it hit me as I was once again joyfully escaping to Middle Earth thanks to Matt and Nerd of the Rings!!!
    Excellent art , narrative, and music!
    Sorry Gimli Son of Gloin I love all your kin!

  • @Kholdaimon
    @Kholdaimon 18 дней назад +5

    7 is a holy number in all ancient middle-eastern texts, from the epic of Gilgamesh to the Old Testament, 7 stands for a host of symbolic, mystical meanings: infinite, unending, divine... Tolkien just uses that known mystical meaning and applies it to his own mythology...

  • @sebastian4507
    @sebastian4507 18 дней назад +9

    7 sons of Fëanor and Fëanor made the greatest stars

  • @Micaht7v
    @Micaht7v 16 дней назад +2

    When are you reviewing HOME box set 4 and the collected poems of JRR Tolkien???!!!!

  • @Caytay1203
    @Caytay1203 16 дней назад +1

    The importance of the number 7 in Tolkien’s works may also have something to do with his faith, because 7 is seen as a number of perfection and is referenced often in the Bible.

  • @kettleandspokebrewery5422
    @kettleandspokebrewery5422 12 дней назад

    will there ever be a compliation of these great videos? like maybe a dvd with custom art, or a downloadable complilation (without ads).. i would definetely buy it!

  • @NCC-72545A
    @NCC-72545A 16 дней назад +2

    The number 7 is a Holy number in Christianity.
    For example, in the First book of the old testimony of the Bible called Genesis. God created the Earth and our universe in 6 days and he rested on the 7th day.
    Then in the new testimony Christ said, " forgive 7 × 7 times."
    I'm sure there are others but I don't remember off the top of my head at the moment.
    In any case good video.

  • @therainbowranger84
    @therainbowranger84 18 дней назад +5

    The seven stars has been used in the Dragon Ball media. 7 dragon balls each with different number of stars (1-7). It's also been used In Digimon Frontier with a mega level angel Digimon named Seraphimon whose signature attack is called, "Stike of the Seven Stars".

  • @jaimy_games
    @jaimy_games 17 дней назад +1

    Apart from a great video, I learned today that what we call “the Great Bear” as a constellation apparently other countries call “the Big Dipper” 🧐

    • @Ned_of_the_Hill
      @Ned_of_the_Hill 16 дней назад +1

      The star pattern has many names in different cultures around the world. What is interesting is how many, widely distant, cultures associated the stars of Ursa Major with a bear. The name "Big Dipper" is primarily used in the United States and Canada, and I believe, in China as well.

  • @wadihkhoueiry1175
    @wadihkhoueiry1175 18 дней назад +1

    "7" is the number of perfection as they say. 🤔

  • @MaxLawton-s4z
    @MaxLawton-s4z 13 дней назад +1

    Do a video on the were worms of middle earth

  • @Notabadguyiswear
    @Notabadguyiswear 18 дней назад

    Just read about this in the silmarillion. Perfect timing!

  • @RobertoJuanSurMontana
    @RobertoJuanSurMontana 18 дней назад +4

    Great coverage. I love love love each and every NOTR episodes! Top shelf! ❤

  • @QuentaAccords
    @QuentaAccords 18 дней назад +1

    Isn't it interesting the livery of Gondor's White Tree with 7 Stars lines up with Jerusalem's Temple Menorah with 7 branches.

  • @klciec1
    @klciec1 15 дней назад +1

    Glaurung seven tongues of fire

  • @jemmamaccusbic885
    @jemmamaccusbic885 18 дней назад

    Love your content! But I'm wondering if some videos have been removed? I was sure I'd seen one about the 3 elf/men relationships and the life stages of elves but now I can't find them?

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  18 дней назад +1

      They’re still up!
      Elf life cycle: ruclips.net/video/hGpjSa_r3JI/видео.htmlsi=XhU0qM-JjoHwrIOA
      Elf Man Pairings: ruclips.net/video/B1ChNSSmgqg/видео.htmlsi=K6rVX4nzw1FYgrX0

  • @usualsurrender5298
    @usualsurrender5298 13 дней назад +1

    7 times I have tried to read the Silmarillon.

  • @AlexanderNecheff
    @AlexanderNecheff 17 дней назад +1

    What always confused me was why the big dipper was used when Corona Borealis also has an asterism of 7 stars and is literally "northern crown", it just seemed more appropriate.

    • @robertepler189
      @robertepler189 17 дней назад

      Just guessing, but the Big Dipper is more well-known & more prominent in the sky

    • @AlexanderNecheff
      @AlexanderNecheff 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@robertepler189 It is possible.
      Though I will have expected the light pollution 70 years ago to not be nearly as bad as it is today. If you are able to get out to a rural (or better) sky, there are so many stars it is actually difficult to pick out the major asterisms, they no longer dominate the sky like they do in modern suburb skies.

  • @fireraider747
    @fireraider747 18 дней назад

    Another fun upload ❤

  • @zimmerwald1915
    @zimmerwald1915 18 дней назад +6

    *Valakirka.

  • @philipcraig6230
    @philipcraig6230 18 дней назад +1

    I'm a bit sceptical that Sauron suspected the role of the One Ring in the overthrow of Saruman. Surely he would have been aware of its power if, say, Aragon had used it at Isengard?

  • @Adamadam-zc6pe
    @Adamadam-zc6pe 18 дней назад +3

    I have to nit pick here. But the letter c is always pronounced like the letter k in Quenya. It should sound like Valakirca.

    • @Tar-Elenion
      @Tar-Elenion 18 дней назад +2

      It was very jarring...

    • @mliz9214
      @mliz9214 16 дней назад

      @@Tar-Elenion I didn't know the correct pronunciation so assumed it's pronounced correctly in the video.
      But now if I hear the correct pronunciation, I'll find that jarring lol

  • @colinleat8309
    @colinleat8309 18 дней назад +1

    The seven Stars of the Big Dipper is an interesting influence from an Astronomical point of view, but I also think it could be Tolkien's religious influence in their as well. Seven is THE prodominant number in the bible, weather it was conscious or unconscious, who knows. 🖖😎🤘🇨🇦🕊️

  • @TNT-King-of-Men
    @TNT-King-of-Men 18 дней назад +31

    7 likely has to do with the seven Catholic virtues.
    Charity
    Chastity
    Diligence
    Humility
    Kindness
    Patience
    Temperance
    Likely an influence for Tolkien.
    Along with, 7 days of the week, 7 wonders of the world

    • @mliz9214
      @mliz9214 18 дней назад +8

      Also 7 Sacraments:
      Baptism
      Eucharist
      Confirmation
      Reconciliation
      Anointing of the sick
      Marriage
      Holy orders

    • @yojlik
      @yojlik 18 дней назад +3

      Seven Brides for Seven Brothers...

    • @Kholdaimon
      @Kholdaimon 18 дней назад +6

      7 is a holy number in all ancient middle-eastern texts, from the epic of Gilgamesh to the Old Testament, 7 stands for a host of symbolic, mystical meanings: infinite, unending, divine... Tolkien just uses that known mystical meaning and applies it to his own mythology...

    • @TNT-King-of-Men
      @TNT-King-of-Men 18 дней назад +2

      @@mliz9214 Ah! I didn't catch that one!

    • @mliz9214
      @mliz9214 18 дней назад +4

      @@Kholdaimon that's correct. Also,
      In Ancient Greece, 7 was associated with what they knew as the 7 planets: the Sun, the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 17 дней назад

    7... Sounds like Bungie, particularly in their games like Marathon and especially Halo.
    Curious on how the Middle-earth Sickle/Plough constellation and the Earth's Big Dipper are the same thing. Did time pass so long that the stars changed places noticeably from the early Ages to the current *Seventh?*

  • @SamuelViana
    @SamuelViana 18 дней назад +5

    I always thought those 7 stars were the Pleiades

    • @krzysztofzpucka7220
      @krzysztofzpucka7220 18 дней назад +2

      "The Pleaides may be a beautiful star cluster today, but ancient peoples all around the world were fearful of the Pleiades, especially in November. In this clip, Randall looks at the various myths and legends regarding the Pleiades and their apparent link to world-wide devastation.
      Our planet travels through the Taurid meteor stream twice per year (late June and late October / early November) The radiant point of the Taurids is located near the Pleaides. In other words, the meteors appear to emanate out of the Pleiades.
      The Taurid meteor stream is actually the remnants of Comet Encke, which entered our solar system roughly 30,000 years ago. Encke was massive, and as it entered the inner solar system it began to fragment. These fragments created a "donut" of debris. As our planet flies through this debris twice per year, we see a meteor shower.
      If we put all these pieces together, the ancient stories of the Pleiades begin to make sense. Our ancestors saw meteors falling to earth in late October, all appearing to come from the Pleiades. Some of these impacts were quite large, causing widespread wildfires and devastation. It's possible the worst event happened roughly 12,800 years ago, marking the beginning of the Younger Dryas...
      After surviving the horrific trauma of the Younger Dryas, our ancestors started a few traditions to preserve the memory of those who died. We still see remnants of these traditions in our modern Halloween and All Souls Day."

    • @SamuelViana
      @SamuelViana 18 дней назад +1

      @krzysztofzpucka7220 thanks for all the effort you put in the reply, but I would like to see some of those influences drawn upon the Tolkien legendarium. I would like to remember the original context where I read that the Valar sickle were the Pleiades

    • @istari0
      @istari0 18 дней назад +1

      @@krzysztofzpucka7220 Fascinating! Thanks.

  • @becklyn3
    @becklyn3 17 дней назад

    Hey nerd of the rings have you though of deep diving into the lore of the bible? If you love tolkiens work i think you would be blown away by the depth of scripture and the lore that comes from it.
    From giants, sons of god and the stories behind the different nations there is quite the tale going on.

  • @chadwickjdillon
    @chadwickjdillon 14 дней назад

    New headcanon: the blue wizards are practitioners of Hokuto Shinken, trained by Orome.

  • @nikolaynikolov8910
    @nikolaynikolov8910 9 дней назад +1

    7 lives of Durin?

  • @tommyss4l
    @tommyss4l 16 дней назад

    There's also the 7 stars of the Hisperides, the 7 sisters given a place in the heavens to escape Orion.

  • @AlexSmit-x6s
    @AlexSmit-x6s День назад +1

    7 beacons

  • @Plots-and-subplots
    @Plots-and-subplots 17 дней назад

    I have a what-if question of sorts. Why didn’t Sauron ever consider kidnapping a wizard to forcibly make a new One Ring. The blue wizards, the brown wizard, probably wouldn’t have made as strong a ring, no. But Sauroman might have been willing. Sauron had the know how. He lost the darn ring for several thousand years, surely the idea of “what if I just made a new one,” with another’s essence, and then took it by force, wouldn’t have been ridiculous.

  • @philipcraig6230
    @philipcraig6230 18 дней назад +1

    Is there any significance attached to 3 and 9 for the number of rings for Elves & Men?

    • @mliz9214
      @mliz9214 18 дней назад +1

      I read that Tolkien was annoyed by what Disney did with the 7 dwarfs so I wonder if that's why there were 7 fathers of the Dwarves (and so 7 lords).
      The three elemental rings were successors to the three silmarils that ended up in the fire, air and water.
      When Cirdan gave Narya (fire) to Gandalf, he said "with it you may rekindle hearts in a world that grows chill"
      Nenya (water) was about preservation and concealing from evil I believe? In Norse mythology, I believe water is associated with being a source of life, understanding and Wisdom, which are associated with Galadriel.
      I wonder if they represent three virtues. The silmarils all contained the hallowed light, which Tolkien might say were a "refracted light", splintered from a single white and so to me, it makes sense that they would also represent virtues.

  • @nerdbot4446
    @nerdbot4446 18 дней назад +1

    Whats the name/artist of the background song in the beginning of the video?

    • @LostHorizons0
      @LostHorizons0 18 дней назад

      My dudes first day in ambient music ?

    • @mliz9214
      @mliz9214 18 дней назад

      @NerdoftheRings, if you reply to this question, please could you also let us know what music starts playing at 5:46 (when you mention the constellation commonly being known as the plough) ✨

  • @gfin4576
    @gfin4576 11 дней назад

    9:57 me when I'm pondering

  • @myfriendbro
    @myfriendbro 17 дней назад

    ❗❗ Can anyone please identify the sad track at the end of the video where the names of Patreon donors are mentioned❗❓🙏

  • @thedarknesscallingme
    @thedarknesscallingme 17 дней назад

    There is also the prophecy of the Dwarves whereby Durin will be reincarnated 7 times before the race of the Dwarves fades away and by the time of the LotR there have already been 6

  • @justgaming1439
    @justgaming1439 18 дней назад +5

    Also durin would reincarnated 7times

  • @RadicalCaveman
    @RadicalCaveman 18 дней назад +2

    Seven books in "The Lord of the Rings" if you count the appendices as one.
    But I guess that doesn't count.

  • @NetherWolf6128
    @NetherWolf6128 15 дней назад

    I have an idea for a video. "What if Faramir went to Rivendell"

  • @pvpeet9374
    @pvpeet9374 18 дней назад

    As far as I am aware, Tolkin was a devout Christian. Since 7 is the Lords number, there is no doubt in my mind that this played a vital role.

  • @marilynlang7489
    @marilynlang7489 17 дней назад +1

    Biblically, seven is the number of completion or perfection. I suspect that JRRT's Christian faith may have influenced the number of stars and stones...

  • @fantasylegendsbookshelf-b8y
    @fantasylegendsbookshelf-b8y 18 дней назад +4

    I have some what if ideas
    1 what if bilbo never found the ring
    2 what if Gandalf found out bilbo had the one ring during the events of the hobbit
    3 what if Gandalf Joined Saruman
    4 what if Deagol became gollum instead of Sméagol
    5 what if Saruman Repented
    Also please do a video on every difference between the lord of the rings books and movies
    And things in lord of the rings that you wouldn’t know if you only watched the movies

    • @conlangknow8787
      @conlangknow8787 18 дней назад

      If only there was 2 more ideas

    • @istari0
      @istari0 18 дней назад +1

      @@conlangknow8787 If you count the two unnumbered items at the end of his post, there are 7.

  • @DelphiMaster1
    @DelphiMaster1 18 дней назад

    Great stuff as always. Believe it or not but my surname is... Neves !

  • @bman3794
    @bman3794 18 дней назад +1

    Now explore the seven hobbit meals

  • @jannerwingfeather
    @jannerwingfeather 16 дней назад +1

    The Seven levels of Minas Tirith!

  • @scottmccurdy6493
    @scottmccurdy6493 18 дней назад

    Just be sure Smithy doesn't get ahold of the Seven Stars, or no ones's wishes will come true.