I respect Jackson's and Kennedy's judgement in giving Bowman a second chance. I'm pretty sure you haven't done any deep analysis on Bowman's performance as GM. After winning 3 Stanley Cups it's hard to keep a team together in the cap era.
They literally operate like a good ol boys mafia. He's not even good at his job. They just do it because they protect their buddies from any and all consequences of their actions.
Stan Never built the Chicago Blackhawks. ( Seabrook, Keith, Hjarmalsson, Bolland, Bickell, Brouwer, Crawford, Kane, Toews, Byfuglien, etc. All Tallon had some aspect of drafting. Sharp, Versteeg, Ladd, Niemi, Sopel, Madden, and Kopecey, were all acquired by Tallon.) If you remember Rocky hired John McDonough as President. McDonough only wanted "yes" people. However, Dale Tallon was the GM and Rick Dudley was on the staff. In the 1st week, McDonough without contacting Dale Tallon, hired Scotty Bowman, in the 2nd week without contacting Tallon, he promoted Stan to Assistant GM. The following day Rick Dudley walked into the office and told Tallon he was immediately resigning. In the summer of 2009 9( After Tallon pushed for the Hawks to sign Hossa) McDonough dismissed Dale. Stan was an integral part of covering up the Kyle Beach. Stan did not care about Kyle he cared about his job and winning the cup. Stan was given a Red and Black Lambergiunni. He Scratched it with bad contracts, dented it with bad trades, and he ruined the engine and the tires with horrible drafting. GOOD LUCK.
Don’t forget that bowman got hanzus, Vermette and also Richard’s. Even he drafted Andrew Shaw. I still don’t understand why Edmonton hired him but he made good moves when they were contenders. When the hawks were not contenders he either had to move players because of the cap situation or made very poor contacts like the Seabrook extension.
@@user-wd4zc3py4w Stan has never scouted. Because his dad he never had to work his way up. He is a terrible drafter and prospect developer. EX. 1. Bquvist order Bouchard and Dobson. 2. Reichel over Mercer, Forrester, or Zary. 3. Nolan Allen? 4. Schmultz 1 year at UND to Hawks. Should have been 2 years at UND 1 year at AHL. Dach . to NHL . There should have been 1 extra year in juniors and 1 year AHL. Jokahari. 1 year in Finland to NHL. Should have been 1 full year in Finland 1 year in AHL, Then 1 year up and down. Stan is a great talker.
@@pdr5yo I wasn’t even talking about scouting. All the players that you mentioned are players after the 2015 finals. There is a scouting department for every team. GMs do get involved but that's the organization that decides on who is ready for the NHL or needs time to develop. Also don’t put reichel in your list. He is a young player that needs time to develop.
You might want to add that there was an external impetus Bowman brought to Chicago, it was a cutting edge System that was still in its youth only being used to date by the L.A Kings. Bowman "found it" and the Hawks used it and they had help from the Systems creator....those were lightening strikes in LA and Chicago, either Team could have been a Dynasty had they been even one iota HONEST. Both Teams had people taking things for free and for granted, they became a substrate due to their methods.
EXACLTY, Nurses contract is an anchor but I feel like Nurse is just terrible in general, too much pressure being on the oilers, and this way Jones can play with Broberg on his strong side to help him develop.
this team is such a joke sometimes. stan isnt even a good gm... Imagine if McDavid had ONE competent gm in his time as an oiler, he would have multiple rings by now
@@roximamasome of us bought our season seats back in March. I’m not going to waste my money by not going. Plus I’m going for the players: Connor, Zack,etc. and the unbelievable year they had. I’m not going for Stan.
This is a baffling decision. The guy was gifted a cup winning team and then burned it to the ground while covering up one of the biggest scandals of the last few decades. How the league even allowed him to return is beyond me, but I'm ashamed that this clown is now at the head of our team.
@@johnathonkelly5117maybe you should experience a sexual assault before you call people snowflakes for being upset about it. As an Oiler fan, I’m embarrassed for you commenting something so stupid like that
I'm shocked that the league reinstated him, let alone that he got hired by a team his first chance back. I cannot fathom what was going through the ownership's and management's minds in Edmonton to green light this. Even if you ignore the morality of bringing this man into your organization (which you shouldn't), it is objectively going to be a PR nightmare to have this man connected to your team in any way after what happened in Chicago. This is an unfathomably terrible move and a black eye on this team and the league.
This guy was a horrible general manager in the back half of his time in Chicago. He made horrible trade after horrible trade after horrible trade not to mention he was gifted a dynasty. Edmonton clearly doesn’t want to win.
@@thebaseballnerd4570 I feel horrible for Oiler fans y'all didn't deserve this. I'm a Hawks fan and you nailed it, in addition to being a horrible human being he was a very bad GM. Dale Talon built a dynasty in Chicago and Bowman destroyed it with 1 bad trade after another. Hopefully this mistake will be over quick and you guys can get a competent human being.
@@waynemilligan6649incorrect. He consistently traded good young players for the rotting corpses of players who used to be good. He made some good draft picks but he mismanaged those too, most of them ended up only playing 1 or 2 seasons in Chicago before being traded for peanuts and then flourishing elsewhere. Guy was terrible.
We can expect that Jeff will be in lockstep with Stan regarding Oilers going forward. Jeff’s recent trade and acquisition actions speak for themselves.
@@Reidski97 anyone who wants bowman doesnt actually understand hockey. Tallon built the Blackhawks just like he did the Panthers. Bowmans moves during his time only made the Blackhawks window close quicker
Stan Bowman doesn't speak with moral authority that is believable. This is going to kill the Oilers. Jeff Jackson scares me that he would hire this loser.
it starts at the top. if at the top we have this toxic garbage character Bowman then that is what the Oilers will become. IMO Kane brought bad karma to the team if this hiring further kills the team then its karma, they have no one to blame but themselves.
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos I agree with you about Kane. Bowman and Kane bring the same negative karma and same level of decrepit conscience and BAD MOJO. McDavid has to step forward and say he won't play if Bowman is ultimately hired. We are putting up with too much crap.
@@RawDogTV what part about my statement is misinformation? Kyle Beach was sexually assaulted by the video coach, it was reported to Stan Bowman and he swept it under the rug and did nothing about it. That video coach then went on to sexually assault a minor after his stint with the Blackhawks. Bowman's failure to report the initial incident involving Kyle Beach allowed Brad Aldrich (video coach) to continue his harmful behaviour, eventually leading to the assault of a high school student. If there is anything to be ashamed of here, it is, as stated above, hiring Stan Bowman to the Edmonton Oilers Organization. Another to be ashamed of is your willfull ignorance on the situation. Crying about misinformation when the only untrue thing being said here is by you.
So, if Sheldon Kennedy can speak to Bowman's penance regarding the Chicago debacle.....and it sure seems like he took steps in improving himself, does he not deserve a second chance? Also, I doubt Stan will be making any trades without the blessings of JJ...so essentially Bowman will just be a face we can all get pissed off at when bad decisions are made.
People always say what they think someone across the table from them want to hear. Whether it's true or not. Wouldn't put it past this coward to have lied to Sheldon's face.
@@monicaarisman4293 Im no fan of Bowman....but your judgement seems harsh. The person responsible is being/has been dealt with....Bowman has taken responsibility (im not saying he's innocent, he had a part) and taken steps to better himself, so I say give him a chance. This isnt a new thing....same was done for Perry, for Virtanen, for Kane, and even for MacTavish if you want to go back far enough. Judging someone outright without consideration of the entire picture.....this reeks of cancel culture. Boooooo.
@@TartanArmy2K he covered up a sexual assault and then was one of the people that recommended him to work with an UNDER 18 team where he raped a minor. but even with that aside his last few years as gm were bad and the next few years for the oilers are extremely important since Draisaitl and McDavid contracts are expiring. so even without the scandal its still a questionable move.
Stanley is exposed as an incompetent coward. He was not a young man when he made these unbeliveably incompetent blunders. Stan, you are an incompetent coward and will always be an incompetent coward. You haven't changed, your character is what it is.
It's a really odd hiring. Nobody as far as I've seen can make sense of this. Jeff Jackson came in and did all this amazing work, then completely ruins it all by dropping a huge turd in the punchbowl.
Jeff would been better, or even Gretzky. I don't know much about this guy, but from what I see, doesn't seem great. But with what he said about the charter thing that's a good step in the right direction Hopefully he doesn't mess up the team, like people said he did with other teams. I only started watching hockey this padt year in January other then that I didn't watch or pay a lot attention other then in restaurants. Been a oilers fan since grade 4 in 07, so I hope after almost winning the cup this past playoffs the team can continue to be a great team that they are. Go oilers looking forward to October, lets get back to those Stanley cup finals and bring it home.
Signing Bowman?! Bad optics, bad vibes, bad decision. Oilers are rotten at the top, starting with that oddball guy Katz ( sexual predator accusations); and now ‘I ignored sexual abuse by a member of my coaching staff’ Bowman? Bad.
We have been recognized as the team where people are given second chances and most have been very successful and so I’m not going to make any opinions on this situation. I trust that they did their homework and what this meeting talked about gives me confidence that Stan will work out.
Great comment. Everyone deserves a second chance. He seems as though he’s done the work in his time away from the game. I wish him and the Oilers great success
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing." The Oilers better hope the hockey gods don't send karma screaming out of the ether at the most inopportune time! This is mind-boggling to those of us who are decent human beings.
The smart betting line says the Oilers miss the Playoffs this coming year....check the legal betting Odds on that and slap down 10-20 sheckles... Moma2 and Nail Yakupov say hi.
Do Panarin-type trades and Jones-type signings scream success? 3 cups is no joke, but he was gifted the majority of players from Dale Tallon. They speak about how they’ve been friends for forever. This hire has everything to do with that. It’s late July so it’s likely Draisaitl’s contract has been, or is close to, finalized by Jeff. He’ll resign in the coming weeks so Bowman can look like a hero and “win over the fans.” After a phenomenal year and first half of summer, this decision is so incredibly disheartening.
@@CrimsonRaiderOiler76er😂 no he certainly didn’t have more bad trades than Holland. Or Free Agent signings than Holland. I know you’re upset but you are simply grasping at straws
@@SF1886 - Trading Panarin for Brandon Saad - Signing Seth Jones to $9.5m x 8yrs - Trading Teravainen for a 2nd and 3rd - Trading Danault for Wise and Fleischmann Byfuglein for Reasoner and a 1st + 2nd Ladd for 2nd Leddy for nothing Sadd for Anisimov Jokiharju for Alex Nylander. 🤙 bozo
What a classless move by JJ. You hire a comically well-known polarizing figure, with a laughable performance record in Chicago after he inherited a dynasty roster, and then, privatize your social media, to shield yourself from the blow back you knew you would rightly receive. Bud, you just burned ALL of the good will you built up this off-season, in a single decision. I look forward to the day you are both gone. Idc if this team wins the cup with this guy, like the Blackhawks did after he was gifted that team. I will never get behind this guy as GM of this team, and I'm sure I'm not alone, judging by the ratio of this video.
34:48, this to the end of the video, listen to this if your disappointed with Stan bowman’s moves he made with Chicago. Or disappointed that Jeff Jackson is not gm. If you’re disappointed with the Kyle beach situation, remember bowman was not the one sexually assaulting Kyle beach. He could have done more about it but that was 14 years ago and he went through many steps to change.
So many haters in this world. If anything, he knows this is his last chance. He has to be at his best. Just like McTavish, Kassian, Kane and Perry. Jackson will over see his moves. I’d like to think he’ll stop him from doing anything too stupid hockey wise. As far as the other stuff goes, he has done his best to make amends with those involved. Only time will tell. Give the guy a chance.
@@CrimsonRaiderOiler76erYes me and Kyle Beach and Sheldon Kennedy approve this hire so we are all fans of sexual abuse. Maybe you should volunteer at a centre then comment
@@CrimsonRaiderOiler76erAre you saying Kyle Beach and Sheldon Kennedy who support this decision are also fans of sexual abuse? People turn off twitter settings because of weirdos like you who can’t control themselves in the comments
Their words don't line up with their body language and energy. There is definitely a back room deal, a buddy buddy type situation. It is easy to say he has done "all this work...." what work are we talking about. Who was his councilor? Not just Sheldon Kennedy. The way Stan handled this situation at Chicogo was not something you can forgive. Could he learn to be better person, sure but does to warrant getting a GM job again. IMO No. He can go work somewhere else but you blew your chance to be in hockey. This just shows that they don't care about the players or the fans. This was a cheap deal the Oilers made.
Did any of you watch the interview? I think it’s a great hire and I welcome giving a human a second chance after making a mistake. 99% of these you tube commentators fail daily on morality, decency and common sense. I would love to see any one of them step up in a panel of 10 people in a Stanley Cup run where you can do what’s right, or crush the dreams of the Hawks players on the brink of a championship. He had the lesson of his life and is right for the position.
I believe everyone in the comments like to give people second chances., but I don’t think it was smart that the oilers hired him as soon as they lost to the finals. That is unfair for the fan base and it’s a bad look when he should have at least been assistant GM. I’m a Blackhawks fan, I understand that he did things good for my team but also he put the team in a bad situation. it’s not bowman that got the Blackhawks a dynasty it’s tallon for drafting Jonathan Toews and Kane and players that made a winning culture. Also Kyle Beach isn’t the only player that was in the investigation. 2 more victims were reported. I don’t think this is not called a life lesson if you hide a serious issue for a decade.
"Bowman's failure to report the alleged assault eventually led to the perpetrator committing further acts of sexual abuse." Yikes, get rid of this guy ASAP! Not good!
Bowman doesn't deserve to be sitting there, the players don't deserve the burden of having him as their GM, the fans don't deserve this mess, and Jeff Jackson doesn't deserve to have his twitter on private for the duration.
Disgusted by this decision. Any other GM would have been a better choice. Why would anyone let their kids wear the jersey or cheer for an organization that hires a man like that?
I can't believe all you doom and gloomers on this thread. Let this man do what he has been hired to do. This choice belongs to the Oilers not any of you. I trust in the Oilers management not any of you. I hope all of you complaining about this hire have lead exemplary lives to date. Go Oil
Fans deserve refunds on our merch because it’s now embarrassing and morally bankrupt to be a fan of the oilers. What a slap in the face to the fans, to make this move that no sane oilers fan would condone. I’m returning the merch I bought right after the playoffs ASAP to think I used to be so proud to rep oilers now I’m ashamed to rep them.
All other stuff aside bowman is a terrible GM.He came into a team that already had all the peices in Chicago.When it comes to keeping a team together he can't do it.
As a hockey fan in the uk that could only be upto date by the kyle beach story by the youtube or the internet this guy should be banned for life from the NHL he put his own personal success before the players safety, if im connor or leon i would be in the owners office saying either he goes or we go.
Bowman! As an Oilers fan this breaks my heart. We have the best fans in the world, as a reward we are stuck with this heartless monster that covered up and protected a sexual predator, allowing them to offend again and again. Until this man is fired, my wallet and support are shut off to this organization. I'm not watching a single game, buying a single jersey, or supporting them publicly in any way. Some principles cannot be compromised, and I will never support those that allow young men to be assaulted by protecting the predator.
As a hawks fan your organization has really screwed the future for the team. As much as oilers are cup contenders.there were better options than bowman
What if him learning from his experience can prevent another situation in the future. If Kyle Beach believes Stan deserves a 2nd chance who are you to overturn that?
Do not worry, no Oilers fan in their right mind could support this decision. Sadly $$$ is the only language they speak. Fans are torn, their team is on the cusp of winning and cup and now this... hiring a man who should be rotting in prison and nowhere near any young NHL players. How could the Oilers management do this to their own loyal fanbase, it's irredeemable and a completely nonsensical decision that could've been avoided.
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos every GM cares about money then fans or even players. We just had a signing where Steven Stamkos is with the Nashville predators and Tampa Bay didn’t want to sign him because of money. That’s why I hate it when it comes to business first
Fans deserve refunds on the merch because it’s now embarrassing and morally bankrupt to be a fan of the oilers. What a slap in the face to the fans, to make this move that no sane oilers fan would condone. I’m returning the merch I bought right after the playoffs ASAP to think I used to be so proud to rep oilers now I’m ashamed to rep them
@@SF1886 Ensuring they understand the magnitude of this decision to loyal fans like myself. Was there a purpose to your comment? Seems super nit, are you a social professor?
@@RydedalightThe magnitude? Somebody is a bit high on themselves. I don’t think Jeff Jackson is reading the RUclips comments for guidance on who to hire to be the club’s General Manager. He has actually talked to Kyle Beach and read the Jenner & Block report.
im sure Leon and MCD had talks with JJ before hand as he is and was very connected to conor as agent no longer anymore cause affiliated to organization so they prolly said hire and JJ did just that i would not worry.
@@mil2172 No. A leader needs to look at the big picture to be successful. Everyone talks about how winning is the most important thing. Well as a secondary priority it is, but it's not the primary in this case. This is a business and the most important thing is making money. Needlessly angering the public and sponsors that don't want to associate or support such behaviour is not what I consider a successful leader. I call it someone who thinks they are smarter than they are and has still much to learn. If I were the owner, poop would be hitting the fan right now. He could have hired just about anyone else in the world including simply extending Holland but instead he chose to be defiant and ultimately started his first bullet point towards his exit from Edmonton.
@@darpompie4354 The bigger picture is that ownership and JJ did an assessment and came to the conclusion that the backlash is worth it if they believe Bowman is the best fit. At the end of the day if you are a fan of the team you should trust their judgement considering they brought the Oilers to the brink of a Stanley cup win. This will blow over and all the people whining will still watch and buy tickets.
@@mil2172 Then why did JJ put his twitter on private. If you are going to say you don't mind the backlash, at least back it up with actions. He is hiding from the backlash. A good leader stands by his decision, not says one thing and then his actions do something else. I don't agree with the hiring, but I would respect him more if his actions actually met what he was saying
This is really a big own-goal by Jackson. Bowman may have repented for his terrible inaction and behaviour in Chicago, but that doesn't mean he deserves the GM job in Edmonton. There are many candidates just as qualified and even more deserving of this prime position. This is the old boys' network at its worst. Stan was only the GM of the Blackhawks because his daddy handed it to him. If this is about giving 2nd chances, then he should have been re-hired by Chicago instead. He's baggage that the Oilers don't need, and don't have any reason to take on.
exactly. a second chance would be putting the guy in a low-risk position with the possibility of upwards mobility if he shows good behaviour. not immediately elevating him to one of the top management roles at one of the top teams. that's a slap on the wrist and then buying the guy a new watch.
Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander and Reily have been together in Toronto for years. How many Cups have they won? McDavid, Leon, Bouchard, RNH etc have been in Edmonton for 3 to 9 years. How many Cups have the Oilers won in that time?
Moma2 was why the Hawks were winning from 2013 forward. Bowmans investigated then rode Supermans Cape after Silent Sam lit them up for 8 points,go back and watch the gametapes of the Post Game commentary...... I made several copies back then for educational purposes ..
Every time there's a positive vibe, they do something like this. Every. Single. Time.
Every time someone works on themselves trying to do better in life, the far left come out with the cancel culture BS.
Cope harder cry baby
Can’t agreed more than that
The league had to nerf Jeff Jackson
Why JJ you were doing so good .
I can't believe we hired this guy.
He hasn’t been a good GM for over 10 years, very strange move by JJ
Whole- heartedly agree!!
I respect Jackson's and Kennedy's judgement in giving Bowman a second chance. I'm pretty sure you haven't done any deep analysis on Bowman's performance as GM. After winning 3 Stanley Cups it's hard to keep a team together in the cap era.
@tommarchitelli1479 so the 3 cups won isn't a goof GM. Man alive you know nothing about hockey 🤡
@@ceeque401 He benefited of the work of Dale Tallon. The only person who knows nothing about hockey is you 🤡
His player sexually abused a minor and he covered it it up so the rest of the team wouldn’t get distracted from the playoffs 🤡. Cedque
Peter Chiarelli 2.0
Dude is where he is because of his last name.
The PR team that wrote the speech for Stan did a very good job
Why....
They literally operate like a good ol boys mafia. He's not even good at his job. They just do it because they protect their buddies from any and all consequences of their actions.
Don't understand this at all why would we bring in this baggage, there is better choices out there
who you wanted ?
Stan Never built the Chicago Blackhawks. ( Seabrook, Keith, Hjarmalsson, Bolland, Bickell, Brouwer, Crawford, Kane, Toews, Byfuglien, etc. All Tallon had some aspect of drafting. Sharp, Versteeg, Ladd, Niemi, Sopel, Madden, and Kopecey, were all acquired by Tallon.) If you remember Rocky hired John McDonough as President. McDonough only wanted "yes" people. However, Dale Tallon was the GM and Rick Dudley was on the staff. In the 1st week, McDonough without contacting Dale Tallon, hired Scotty Bowman, in the 2nd week without contacting Tallon, he promoted Stan to Assistant GM. The following day Rick Dudley walked into the office and told Tallon he was immediately resigning. In the summer of 2009 9( After Tallon pushed for the Hawks to sign Hossa) McDonough dismissed Dale. Stan was an integral part of covering up the Kyle Beach. Stan did not care about Kyle he cared about his job and winning the cup. Stan was given a Red and Black Lambergiunni. He Scratched it with bad contracts, dented it with bad trades, and he ruined the engine and the tires with horrible drafting. GOOD LUCK.
Don’t forget that bowman got hanzus, Vermette and also Richard’s. Even he drafted Andrew Shaw. I still don’t understand why Edmonton hired him but he made good moves when they were contenders. When the hawks were not contenders he either had to move players because of the cap situation or made very poor contacts like the Seabrook extension.
@@user-wd4zc3py4w Stan has never scouted. Because his dad he never had to work his way up. He is a terrible drafter and prospect developer. EX. 1. Bquvist order Bouchard and Dobson. 2. Reichel over Mercer, Forrester, or Zary. 3. Nolan Allen? 4. Schmultz 1 year at UND to Hawks. Should have been 2 years at UND 1 year at AHL. Dach . to NHL . There should have been 1 extra year in juniors and 1 year AHL. Jokahari. 1 year in Finland to NHL. Should have been 1 full year in Finland 1 year in AHL, Then 1 year up and down. Stan is a great talker.
@@pdr5yo I wasn’t even talking about scouting. All the players that you mentioned are players after the 2015 finals. There is a scouting department for every team. GMs do get involved but that's the organization that decides on who is ready for the NHL or needs time to develop. Also don’t put reichel in your list. He is a young player that needs time to develop.
You might want to add that there was an external impetus Bowman brought to Chicago, it was a cutting edge System that was still in its youth only being used to date by the L.A Kings. Bowman "found it" and the Hawks used it and they had help from the Systems creator....those were lightening strikes in LA and Chicago, either Team could have been a Dynasty had they been even one iota HONEST. Both Teams had people taking things for free and for granted, they became a substrate due to their methods.
Was really impressed with Jackson. Any good will he built he just flushed down the toilet. What the actual hell are they thinking?!
Excluding the Kyle Beach situation, he has made horrible moves such as the Jones resigning and the Panarin Trade.
Seth Jones should reunite with Stan Bowman in Edmonton that was one of his worst contracts in the summer of July 2021 in Chicago
Well we have the nurse contract which hasn't aged well.
Holland outdid that deal when he resigned Nurse
No need. We already got the Nurse boat-anchor contract.
EXACLTY, Nurses contract is an anchor but I feel like Nurse is just terrible in general, too much pressure being on the oilers, and this way Jones can play with Broberg on his strong side to help him develop.
Which in turn , resulted in oilers having to over pay for Nurse.
this team is such a joke sometimes. stan isnt even a good gm... Imagine if McDavid had ONE competent gm in his time as an oiler, he would have multiple rings by now
Holland wasn’t a competent GM?
@@SF1886nope he wasn’t
The only competent gm he’s had was the one month tenure of Jeff Jackson
@@travispigeon3661They just didn’t play in Game 7 in the Stanley Cup Final?
@@BentleyMundellaccording to the Puliju guy he isn’t
My Oiler fandom just took one helluva hit.
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Better they would have brought McTavish back or extended Dutch for 2 or 3 years.
Plenty of new fans to take your place.
@@wc1957 they can replace you to lol don’t be a ass
Brave of them to leave the comments on
I want to hear "F*ck you Bowman" chants to the tune of Let's Go Oilers at the Oilers home opener
I want to see empty seats.
@@roximama You won’t
@@roximamasome of us bought our season seats back in March. I’m not going to waste my money by not going. Plus I’m going for the players: Connor, Zack,etc. and the unbelievable year they had. I’m not going for Stan.
@@Swttng780You can ask the club to refund your season tickets. There are a ton of people on the waiting list.
@@SF1886did you misread my comment? I am not giving up my seats, 🤣
All I can say is I hope he brings his dad along for advice!
This is a baffling decision. The guy was gifted a cup winning team and then burned it to the ground while covering up one of the biggest scandals of the last few decades. How the league even allowed him to return is beyond me, but I'm ashamed that this clown is now at the head of our team.
Burned it to the ground? So after he was hired he didn’t win any Cups?
Can’t let oilers fans get too happy😭😭
Most of us are still very happy. The snowflakes will judge and cry but we have an excellent culture and we'll be fine ;)
@@johnathonkelly5117maybe you should experience a sexual assault before you call people snowflakes for being upset about it. As an Oiler fan, I’m embarrassed for you commenting something so stupid like that
@@johnathonkelly5117he’s a terrible GM though
@@johnathonkelly5117 "snowflakes"? lol list 3 trades he's won.
@@Thebiggestbowse-hp5edWell he won 3 Cups so that’s more important than trades
This is embarrassing. "Trying to be best in class in everything we do"
I'm shocked that the league reinstated him, let alone that he got hired by a team his first chance back. I cannot fathom what was going through the ownership's and management's minds in Edmonton to green light this. Even if you ignore the morality of bringing this man into your organization (which you shouldn't), it is objectively going to be a PR nightmare to have this man connected to your team in any way after what happened in Chicago. This is an unfathomably terrible move and a black eye on this team and the league.
What a disappointing day to be an Oiler fan 😕
No it is a bad day for far left cancel culture clowns
This guy was a horrible general manager in the back half of his time in Chicago. He made horrible trade after horrible trade after horrible trade not to mention he was gifted a dynasty. Edmonton clearly doesn’t want to win.
@@thebaseballnerd4570 I feel horrible for Oiler fans y'all didn't deserve this. I'm a Hawks fan and you nailed it, in addition to being a horrible human being he was a very bad GM. Dale Talon built a dynasty in Chicago and Bowman destroyed it with 1 bad trade after another.
Hopefully this mistake will be over quick and you guys can get a competent human being.
Never did I think (as a Hawks fan) that Stanny boy would get a job before Quennville.
@@darkstark1949 well at least we don’t got him.LET GO HAWKS!
After winning 3 Stanley Cups, it's hard to keep a team together during the cap era. Many of his "bad trades" were salary dumps because of the cap.
@@waynemilligan6649incorrect. He consistently traded good young players for the rotting corpses of players who used to be good. He made some good draft picks but he mismanaged those too, most of them ended up only playing 1 or 2 seasons in Chicago before being traded for peanuts and then flourishing elsewhere.
Guy was terrible.
lol when is the last time Stan won a trade? This is horrible. Why must this organization constantly punish its fans?
The Duncan Keith trade!
Well said. Hunter was the obvious choice, and they blew it.
If you think we are currently being punished with the on ice product we get to watch, you'll never be happy. 😂
We can expect that Jeff will be in lockstep with Stan regarding Oilers going forward. Jeff’s recent trade and acquisition actions speak for themselves.
How quickly we forget the trades and trade deadlines that helped win 3 cups in 6 seasons.
Absolutely disgusting!!!
Win for the oilers
@@Reidski97 you like incompetent?
@@Reidski97 anyone who wants bowman doesnt actually understand hockey. Tallon built the Blackhawks just like he did the Panthers. Bowmans moves during his time only made the Blackhawks window close quicker
And we thought Chirelli was a bad GM. Strap in folks. Let’s just hope he doesn’t sign Milan Lucic.
Stan Bowman doesn't speak with moral authority that is believable. This is going to kill the Oilers. Jeff Jackson scares me that he would hire this loser.
it starts at the top. if at the top we have this toxic garbage character Bowman then that is what the Oilers will become. IMO Kane brought bad karma to the team if this hiring further kills the team then its karma, they have no one to blame but themselves.
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos I agree with you about Kane. Bowman and Kane bring the same negative karma and same level of decrepit conscience and BAD MOJO. McDavid has to step forward and say he won't play if Bowman is ultimately hired. We are putting up with too much crap.
Certainly casts a dark cloud over the Oilers organization.
A very big one that I dont know how our guys get out of
What’s rounder? Stan’s head or the oilers logo?
Fire Stan Bowman. He kills the Oilers mojo. His dad would agree.
absolutely disgusted that this organization decided to hire Mr. Bowman (who covered up a sexual assault and aided in the sexual assault of a minor)
Neither of those things is true, but keep on mentally flagellating yourself.
Absolute win for the oilers organization
@@Reidski97 says a lot about you if you are going to call this a win.
Stop spreading misinformation. You should be ashamed of yourself
@@RawDogTV what part about my statement is misinformation? Kyle Beach was sexually assaulted by the video coach, it was reported to Stan Bowman and he swept it under the rug and did nothing about it. That video coach then went on to sexually assault a minor after his stint with the Blackhawks. Bowman's failure to report the initial incident involving Kyle Beach allowed Brad Aldrich (video coach) to continue his harmful behaviour, eventually leading to the assault of a high school student.
If there is anything to be ashamed of here, it is, as stated above, hiring Stan Bowman to the Edmonton Oilers Organization. Another to be ashamed of is your willfull ignorance on the situation. Crying about misinformation when the only untrue thing being said here is by you.
So, if Sheldon Kennedy can speak to Bowman's penance regarding the Chicago debacle.....and it sure seems like he took steps in improving himself, does he not deserve a second chance? Also, I doubt Stan will be making any trades without the blessings of JJ...so essentially Bowman will just be a face we can all get pissed off at when bad decisions are made.
People always say what they think someone across the table from them want to hear. Whether it's true or not. Wouldn't put it past this coward to have lied to Sheldon's face.
@@monicaarisman4293 Im no fan of Bowman....but your judgement seems harsh. The person responsible is being/has been dealt with....Bowman has taken responsibility (im not saying he's innocent, he had a part) and taken steps to better himself, so I say give him a chance. This isnt a new thing....same was done for Perry, for Virtanen, for Kane, and even for MacTavish if you want to go back far enough. Judging someone outright without consideration of the entire picture.....this reeks of cancel culture. Boooooo.
@@TartanArmy2K he covered up a sexual assault and then was one of the people that recommended him to work with an UNDER 18 team where he raped a minor. but even with that aside his last few years as gm were bad and the next few years for the oilers are extremely important since Draisaitl and McDavid contracts are expiring. so even without the scandal its still a questionable move.
god damnit
Nice job snuffing out the momentum from the finals and amazing offseason.
What's next? is a Diddy song gonna be the goal song now?
I heard it's getting changed to ram ranch.
Stanley is exposed as an incompetent coward. He was not a young man when he made these unbeliveably incompetent blunders. Stan, you are an incompetent coward and will always be an incompetent coward. You haven't changed, your character is what it is.
It's a really odd hiring. Nobody as far as I've seen can make sense of this. Jeff Jackson came in and did all this amazing work, then completely ruins it all by dropping a huge turd in the punchbowl.
Oilers always take 2 steps forward and 4 steps back
4 steps this is more like 100 steps back
Jeff would been better, or even Gretzky. I don't know much about this guy, but from what I see, doesn't seem great. But with what he said about the charter thing that's a good step in the right direction
Hopefully he doesn't mess up the team, like people said he did with other teams. I only started watching hockey this padt year in January other then that I didn't watch or pay a lot attention other then in restaurants. Been a oilers fan since grade 4 in 07, so I hope after almost winning the cup this past playoffs the team can continue to be a great team that they are. Go oilers looking forward to October, lets get back to those Stanley cup finals and bring it home.
This guy better be doing community service around Edmonton on every off day. Unbelievable that this guy inherits these oilers as his rehab.
Out of all of the candidates they had to pick Bowman? Whenever it looks like the Oilers are turning the corner they fall flat on their face lol
I'm not sure about this one
Class & Stan Bowman don't go hand in hand.
embarrassed, disappointed, disgusted.
Signing Bowman?! Bad optics, bad vibes, bad decision. Oilers are rotten at the top, starting with that oddball guy Katz ( sexual predator accusations); and now ‘I ignored sexual abuse by a member of my coaching staff’ Bowman? Bad.
We have been recognized as the team where people are given second chances and most have been very successful and so I’m not going to make any opinions on this situation. I trust that they did their homework and what this meeting talked about gives me confidence that Stan will work out.
Great comment. Everyone deserves a second chance. He seems as though he’s done the work in his time away from the game. I wish him and the Oilers great success
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing."
The Oilers better hope the hockey gods don't send karma screaming out of the ether at the most inopportune time! This is mind-boggling to those of us who are decent human beings.
The smart betting line says the Oilers miss the Playoffs this coming year....check the legal betting Odds on that and slap down 10-20 sheckles... Moma2 and Nail Yakupov say hi.
Did Millbury turn them down?
What an interesting way for Jackson and Katz to come out as masochists.
Do Panarin-type trades and Jones-type signings scream success? 3 cups is no joke, but he was gifted the majority of players from Dale Tallon. They speak about how they’ve been friends for forever. This hire has everything to do with that.
It’s late July so it’s likely Draisaitl’s contract has been, or is close to, finalized by Jeff. He’ll resign in the coming weeks so Bowman can look like a hero and “win over the fans.” After a phenomenal year and first half of summer, this decision is so incredibly disheartening.
We're not that stupid.
Every GM has a bad trade and bad FA signing. Even the ones that haven’t won cups.
@@SF1886he had more bad trades than Holland lol
@@CrimsonRaiderOiler76er😂 no he certainly didn’t have more bad trades than Holland. Or Free Agent signings than Holland. I know you’re upset but you are simply grasping at straws
@@SF1886 - Trading Panarin for Brandon Saad
- Signing Seth Jones to $9.5m x 8yrs
- Trading Teravainen for a 2nd and 3rd
- Trading Danault for Wise and Fleischmann
Byfuglein for Reasoner and a 1st + 2nd
Ladd for 2nd
Leddy for nothing
Sadd for Anisimov
Jokiharju for Alex Nylander. 🤙 bozo
What a classless move by JJ. You hire a comically well-known polarizing figure, with a laughable performance record in Chicago after he inherited a dynasty roster, and then, privatize your social media, to shield yourself from the blow back you knew you would rightly receive.
Bud, you just burned ALL of the good will you built up this off-season, in a single decision.
I look forward to the day you are both gone. Idc if this team wins the cup with this guy, like the Blackhawks did after he was gifted that team. I will never get behind this guy as GM of this team, and I'm sure I'm not alone, judging by the ratio of this video.
34:48, this to the end of the video, listen to this if your disappointed with Stan bowman’s moves he made with Chicago. Or disappointed that Jeff Jackson is not gm. If you’re disappointed with the Kyle beach situation, remember bowman was not the one sexually assaulting Kyle beach. He could have done more about it but that was 14 years ago and he went through many steps to change.
Not sure this is a good move? I hope Jeff knows something that we as fans don’t? Hope Stan proves us wrong!
Classless, and disgusting. This guy should not be back in executive positions.
Stan doesn't deserve this chance
My BIRTH CERTIFICATE says EDMONTON. This team OWES THE FANS BETTER!!!
So many haters in this world. If anything, he knows this is his last chance. He has to be at his best. Just like McTavish, Kassian, Kane and Perry. Jackson will over see his moves. I’d like to think he’ll stop him from doing anything too stupid hockey wise. As far as the other stuff goes, he has done his best to make amends with those involved. Only time will tell. Give the guy a chance.
People would give him a chance if he was assistant GM that has to work back to be a GM for a team.
14:04 “I have to respect the fan’s opinions.” Then why turn your twitter on private before announcing the hire? lol
@@SF1886found the fan of sexual abuse
@@CrimsonRaiderOiler76erYes me and Kyle Beach and Sheldon Kennedy approve this hire so we are all fans of sexual abuse. Maybe you should volunteer at a centre then comment
@@CrimsonRaiderOiler76erAre you saying Kyle Beach and Sheldon Kennedy who support this decision are also fans of sexual abuse? People turn off twitter settings because of weirdos like you who can’t control themselves in the comments
as of typing this, I am shocked there is an 80% like ratio. If folks are truly upset, this should be disliked to hell.
Probably bots
Currently 227 likes to 1.2K dislikes now lol
Bots or Oilers haters 🤭
@@odomokdragonprobably people with morals🤭
New colors for Stan. He should be in the news regularly.
Why?!?!?!?!?!
Their words don't line up with their body language and energy. There is definitely a back room deal, a buddy buddy type situation. It is easy to say he has done "all this work...." what work are we talking about. Who was his councilor? Not just Sheldon Kennedy. The way Stan handled this situation at Chicogo was not something you can forgive. Could he learn to be better person, sure but does to warrant getting a GM job again. IMO No. He can go work somewhere else but you blew your chance to be in hockey. This just shows that they don't care about the players or the fans. This was a cheap deal the Oilers made.
they're opening themselves up to tremendous clap back if this fails. At least they have the cahones to give it a try. We shall see.
Did any of you watch the interview? I think it’s a great hire and I welcome giving a human a second chance after making a mistake.
99% of these you tube commentators fail daily on morality, decency and common sense. I would love to see any one of them step up in a panel of 10 people in a Stanley Cup run where you can do what’s right, or crush the dreams of the Hawks players on the brink of a championship.
He had the lesson of his life and is right for the position.
I believe everyone in the comments like to give people second chances., but I don’t think it was smart that the oilers hired him as soon as they lost to the finals. That is unfair for the fan base and it’s a bad look when he should have at least been assistant GM. I’m a Blackhawks fan, I understand that he did things good for my team but also he put the team in a bad situation. it’s not bowman that got the Blackhawks a dynasty it’s tallon for drafting Jonathan Toews and Kane and players that made a winning culture. Also Kyle Beach isn’t the only player that was in the investigation. 2 more victims were reported. I don’t think this is not called a life lesson if you hide a serious issue for a decade.
Embarrasing.
Not good move...fans not happy what about the players..a distraction...
Is it only one person that decides..ya bad mistake...no second chance
Wow that Panarin trade was trash. I think if we just look at his record, he inherited a god level team and he kind of let it turn to trash in the end.
No way, this calls for a boycott! My God is there no one better ?? Mark Hunter ??? or other ones ??
"Bowman's failure to report the alleged assault eventually led to the perpetrator committing further acts of sexual abuse."
Yikes, get rid of this guy ASAP! Not good!
Bowman doesn't deserve to be sitting there, the players don't deserve the burden of having him as their GM, the fans don't deserve this mess, and Jeff Jackson doesn't deserve to have his twitter on private for the duration.
LOL what burden do the players have?
I believe it's called X now
Disgusted by this decision. Any other GM would have been a better choice. Why would anyone let their kids wear the jersey or cheer for an organization that hires a man like that?
I can't believe all you doom and gloomers on this thread. Let this man do what he has been hired to do. This choice belongs to the Oilers not any of you. I trust in the Oilers management not any of you. I hope all of you complaining about this hire have lead exemplary lives to date. Go Oil
Well I'm willing to bet most of us complaining haven't purposefully covered up sexual assault scandals, so it is very valid for us to criticize him.
What a slap in the face to the entire fanbase. Awful move for so many reasons. So much for the best offseason the Oilers have ever had.
Gross
I guess Bill Cosby wasn't available!!
Even if he somehow does a good job, this is not the representation we need on this team.
Unsubscribed Oilers+. Might do more.... really disappointing to hear JJ not give a sh*t about us fans
Fans deserve refunds on our merch because it’s now embarrassing and morally bankrupt to be a fan of the oilers. What a slap in the face to the fans, to make this move that no sane oilers fan would condone. I’m returning the merch I bought right after the playoffs ASAP to think I used to be so proud to rep oilers now I’m ashamed to rep them.
Absolutely unfathomable hire.
Dumb move … Did all the other candidates turn it down ? Shocked
Clown started it with good morning. no jeff, it was not a good morning
What this year can be, unburdened by what last year was!!!
Good one.
Given Sheldon Kennedy's comments on Stan Bowman, I have no issues with this hiring.
All other stuff aside bowman is a terrible GM.He came into a team that already had all the peices in Chicago.When it comes to keeping a team together he can't do it.
As a hockey fan in the uk that could only be upto date by the kyle beach story by the youtube or the internet this guy should be banned for life from the NHL he put his own personal success before the players safety, if im connor or leon i would be in the owners office saying either he goes or we go.
Bowman! As an Oilers fan this breaks my heart. We have the best fans in the world, as a reward we are stuck with this heartless monster that covered up and protected a sexual predator, allowing them to offend again and again. Until this man is fired, my wallet and support are shut off to this organization. I'm not watching a single game, buying a single jersey, or supporting them publicly in any way. Some principles cannot be compromised, and I will never support those that allow young men to be assaulted by protecting the predator.
As a hawks fan your organization has really screwed the future for the team. As much as oilers are cup contenders.there were better options than bowman
What if him learning from his experience can prevent another situation in the future. If Kyle Beach believes Stan deserves a 2nd chance who are you to overturn that?
@@maxrates did you know that there are two more players that were involved with the investigation
Do not worry, no Oilers fan in their right mind could support this decision. Sadly $$$ is the only language they speak. Fans are torn, their team is on the cusp of winning and cup and now this... hiring a man who should be rotting in prison and nowhere near any young NHL players. How could the Oilers management do this to their own loyal fanbase, it's irredeemable and a completely nonsensical decision that could've been avoided.
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos every GM cares about money then fans or even players. We just had a signing where Steven Stamkos is with the Nashville predators and Tampa Bay didn’t want to sign him because of money. That’s why I hate it when it comes to business first
Sign dri long term this week. Let bowman cook. Cry babies everywhere. Oilers win the cup next year
give him a 1 year temporary contract , second chance ok, but not to burn down the team as it is.
Kind of seemed like Bowman forgot Jeff Jackson's name. During his opening comments he kept referring to Jackson as "he" and "the guy to my left here"
The disrespect for the fans that this move shows has ensured I'm not watching an Oilers game until he's gone
See you in 10 years
Fans deserve refunds on the merch because it’s now embarrassing and morally bankrupt to be a fan of the oilers. What a slap in the face to the fans, to make this move that no sane oilers fan would condone. I’m returning the merch I bought right after the playoffs ASAP to think I used to be so proud to rep oilers now I’m ashamed to rep them
Horrific decision! This is far beyond a fly in the ointment, how could you be so tone deaf? I’m out as a fan of this organization.
This is not an airport. You don’t have to announce your departure
@@SF1886 Ensuring they understand the magnitude of this decision to loyal fans like myself. Was there a purpose to your comment? Seems super nit, are you a social professor?
@@RydedalightThe magnitude? Somebody is a bit high on themselves. I don’t think Jeff Jackson is reading the RUclips comments for guidance on who to hire to be the club’s General Manager. He has actually talked to Kyle Beach and read the Jenner & Block report.
@@SF1886 The more you know!
See ya ✌🏿
Absolutely horrible move !
WTF???????????
im sure Leon and MCD had talks with JJ before hand as he is and was very connected to conor as agent no longer anymore cause affiliated to organization so they prolly said hire and JJ did just that i would not worry.
So Jackson is saying he doesn't care about the public backlash/opinion. That is a horrible thing for anyone in a position of power to ever say.
@@Bowman1999 But that's how leaders need to act to be successful. Fans opinions should not matter imo.
He probably cares but isn't going to really let it bother him
@@mil2172 No. A leader needs to look at the big picture to be successful. Everyone talks about how winning is the most important thing. Well as a secondary priority it is, but it's not the primary in this case. This is a business and the most important thing is making money. Needlessly angering the public and sponsors that don't want to associate or support such behaviour is not what I consider a successful leader. I call it someone who thinks they are smarter than they are and has still much to learn. If I were the owner, poop would be hitting the fan right now. He could have hired just about anyone else in the world including simply extending Holland but instead he chose to be defiant and ultimately started his first bullet point towards his exit from Edmonton.
@@darpompie4354 The bigger picture is that ownership and JJ did an assessment and came to the conclusion that the backlash is worth it if they believe Bowman is the best fit. At the end of the day if you are a fan of the team you should trust their judgement considering they brought the Oilers to the brink of a Stanley cup win. This will blow over and all the people whining will still watch and buy tickets.
@@mil2172 Then why did JJ put his twitter on private. If you are going to say you don't mind the backlash, at least back it up with actions. He is hiding from the backlash. A good leader stands by his decision, not says one thing and then his actions do something else. I don't agree with the hiring, but I would respect him more if his actions actually met what he was saying
Nope Oilers.
This is really a big own-goal by Jackson. Bowman may have repented for his terrible inaction and behaviour in Chicago, but that doesn't mean he deserves the GM job in Edmonton. There are many candidates just as qualified and even more deserving of this prime position. This is the old boys' network at its worst. Stan was only the GM of the Blackhawks because his daddy handed it to him. If this is about giving 2nd chances, then he should have been re-hired by Chicago instead. He's baggage that the Oilers don't need, and don't have any reason to take on.
exactly. a second chance would be putting the guy in a low-risk position with the possibility of upwards mobility if he shows good behaviour. not immediately elevating him to one of the top management roles at one of the top teams. that's a slap on the wrist and then buying the guy a new watch.
This is an embarrassment.
Kane, Toews, Seabrook Keith, and Sharp were all Blackhawks before Bowman became GM, so just how instrumental was he in the Hawks cup wins?
McDavid, draisaitl, ekholm, Bouchard, nugent Hopkins, or Zach Hyman your choice was here before bowman
Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander and Reily have been together in Toronto for years. How many Cups have they won? McDavid, Leon, Bouchard, RNH etc have been in Edmonton for 3 to 9 years. How many Cups have the Oilers won in that time?
Moma2 was why the Hawks were winning from 2013 forward. Bowmans investigated then rode Supermans Cape after Silent Sam lit them up for 8 points,go back and watch the gametapes of the Post Game commentary...... I made several copies back then for educational purposes ..
@@scout8424 So your point is that the GMs that don't do the drafting win the cups, rather than the players?