When I was in Auto Tech school (74-75) a classmate had a 73 Roadrunner 318 3speed. Towards the end of our training,he and I put the Satellite roll down quarter windows in it. He still has that Roadrunner. 1 repaint, it now has a 340 and 4speed in it and the same Cragar mags. It hasn't been daily driven since the early 80s but has been in a lot of car shows. It's better looking than when it was new.
My dad still has his 1970 satellite 383 727. Alpine white. He bought it in 1971with 8,000 miles on the odo. I think it's a real cool color, I'll always kept an eye out my entire life for another one in the same color. I've never seen another 70 satellite in alpine white, there couldn't have been many made.
@@drippinglass ..not fully true,the later 70's Chrysler products when you had the optional 318 4 barrel you also got duel exhaust...Yes they made cars/trucks/vans with factory 4 barrel 318's in the mid'ish up1970's! Also the poly 318 in the 50's early 60's had duel exhaust with the 4bbl and duel 4bbl but the LA 318 the Road Runner was the first LA 318 with duel exhaust but not the only..Albeit the Poly was different than the LA 318 67-up...Had to clear that up,just for other Mopar purists..
I'm amazed at where this car has gone. I know this car very well! They guy who built this passed away a few years ago. He owned it since he was 16. he pretty much stopped driving it almost 20 years ago. this is a Wisconsin car, and he knew it was the only way he'd get a GTX. Its not the original paint job, but it was painted almost 40 years ago. He was very meticulous that it was as close to correct as he could get it. Thank you for your kind evaluation! I know he would appreciate it!
Jimmyz96, I grew up in Wisconsin and have B-1 ‘72 Satellite Sebring my dad bought new for my mom. I started putting the car away in winter to avoid road salt as soon as I acquired it from my folks. I brought it to Nevada in the 1980s. I still have it. No road salt usage in our part of the state, so it’s a year round driver.
@@gnomeasone7945 your welcome, im still kicking myself for not buying it when i had the chance, it needed a bit more work back then, but i never figured it would fetch the price it has being a clone. once i saw the inside door panels, i knew it was the car for sure. he never could find any original road runner ones. at one time it even had the am-fm-8 track with cb radio in it too
Thank you. In 1980 I bought a 72 RR GTX. My senior year in high school. Arlington tx. RM23U I was second owner. Bone stock except for Rocket rear mags. Still had the unused Polyglass spare tire in the trunk. Every old timer bk then tried to tell me it was a fake. But all numbers matching sitting right there. So much for the know it all ol coots. Auto. Posi. Tire fryer deluxe. Great car. I ended up owning the same 1 twice. 1 of 1276 gtx upgrades. I paid 1000.
Back in 72, my boss had a new 72 Runner, 400 automatic, orange with a white interior. That car looked beautiful, a real show stopper. I always thought they really got the tail lights right on the 72, but the front side marker lights on the 71 looked great, the 72 up lights looked like they were taken off a utility trailer.
Love those wraparound bumpers; that's my favorite Road Runner/Satellite body style. Considering how stupidly expensive old muscle-era cars became even as far back as the '90s, I long ago stopped caring about whether or not all the numbers and options match, especially when it comes to being a driver. Excellent analysis and demonstration of how to make your own rare option muscle car.
Right on, if it's not wild looking and the wiring doesn't look like Bent and Jimmied have been in it, the numbers don't matter much on a car you'll enjoy driving
They're called "loop" bumpers. I wouldn't pay 30 grand for ANY US car. Just my take on it. As cool as I think this car is, I find it silly to pay that for a non-original unrestored clone. And I prefer unrestored cars. But here we are. I guess that's reality.
I got a '69 Swinger out of a guy's West Texas "Back 40" last summer. He bought it new, but around '78, decided to put the drivetrain & rear axle out of his '68 Road Runner that was totaled. Last time the car had been on the road was '81 or '82. Over the years, the bench seat, radiator, seat belts, et cetera got taken from the car. So, I got a solid & pretty straight 340 Swinger for a decent price. Not original, a bunch of "Backwoods, budget, hillbilly'd" hot rodding we had to reverse. Perfect! So it has been mini-tubbed, US Car Tools "Level II" chassis stiffening kit, '76' K-member/steering/suspension pieces, Schumacher swap kit, S21 "Police steering," 400BB/727 combo, Corbeau buckets (rear seat upholstered to match & extra headrests coming), 3-point seat belts, 11.75" rotors, Doc Diff discs on the 8.75, 26" aluminum radiator, 4-speed hump (we did pop new floors in due to rubber floormat trapping water up front), GT/GTS tail panel that will be painted body color- in the 2 large black-painted areas (and a sticker that reads Swinger 383 in the GT/GTS spot), and the factory AC will be getting operational using the factory dash box & controls, but under hood will have a Sanden compressor & new condenser/lines. I have more to do, but you get my drift- I'm building it to be safer, nicer handling, much better braking, and be able to comfortably drive across the country. It'll never be a numbers-matching, museum-quality, "As built" collector piece
Hmm, factory a/c? It seems to be a problem w/'60s-'80s Mopars - including my beloved L-Body GLH Turbo - the condenser drain line exits the firewall in a poor position. This ensures the underhood air pressure can blow exiting moisture back to the firewall opening, which in my Omni's case was fitted with a piece of open-cell foam gasket. Moisture wicked down the interior and pooled underneath the passenger side footwell, which leads to undetected corrosion if not addressed. This is one reason you see lots of old Mopars in wrecking yards with pristine floorpans but for a completely rotted out passenger side. After I detected the problem during a big-stereo interior removal project, I fixed the condenser drainback problem w/some rubber tubing, a piece of wire, and a handful of my mother's green gardening clay to seal the firewall gap.@@olikat8
@felisconcolor1112 it is, my issue with the front footwells was due to wiper pivot seals leaking and water getting trapped under the rubber floor cover
It caught my eye. I was impressed he managed to find the air grabber set up and grill. Who in their right mind doesn't want a 440 six pak. Some people thought it was rusty ,where I live these Satellites are long long gone. Very hard to find, maybe in a field for decades.
He had 2, the other one was earmarked for his brothers GTX, the GTX was never finished , and now both brothers have long since passed. I wish I'd have had the foresight those 2 had, I wish I'd have bought the powder blue one when it came up for sale. The reason it survived may sound silly, but it's true. Less than two months after he had it painted , a deer jumped out and either it's tooth or its horn scratched it from the front to the back. He was so paranoid, he almost never took it out again.
there is actually another fully intact set up in the estate. his brother was building a 71 GTX with a 440 magnum 4 speed. before he passed away as well.
I have a collection of 72 Road Runner header panel emblems that were given out as awards to dealerships back in 72. What they did was cut off the mounting studs and added a piece of felt on the back sides more or less making them into cup coasters. I have 10 chrome emblems and one gold plated.
I remember back in the late 70’s in Hot Rod magazine a subscriber wrote in asking how many ‘73 road runner/GTX’s were made. The writer that answered the question said they were never made, and it was probably a drunken assembly line worker goofing off! 🤣
Having owned 4 of that body style, a plain Stripper 72 Satellite, with a 400Hp and Pistol Grip, a 72 Satellite Sebring Plus, and 2 Jamaica Blue 71's that were like clones, it's by far the Best, and so comfortable at speed.IMO
I think they built these in Windsor Ontario. My dad worked at the plant and used to bring me home the roadrunner stickers from work and I'd put them all over my stuff. I had that roadrunner trunk sticker on the back of my hockey helmet for my whole childhood lol. My grandfather had the 'Satellite Sebring' version of that car. Basically that car with gold paint and a brown vinyl top. I remember riding in the backseat as a kid and listening to the rear end humming away like crazy while driving anywhere. cheers.
I love those 'What If' '71 Superbird and Daytona cars that are floating around out there that a guy did. They are gorgeous. Those wings look like they were designed for the fuselage body.
The prices of any car, especially a good one, is outrageous anymore. Im not that old. But I can remember when you could buy an old beater for $500, drive it around for a while and sell it for $500. Now, the same condition car is $5,000. It's just ridiculous
They watch the find & rebuild videos and think you can do it in 30 minutes easily and cheap. Then sell it at Barrett Jackson for millions. So they want thousands for a pos rust bucket that would take years for a one man shop to find parts and rebuild.
in 2018 I managed to snag a $500 beater. '96 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera. Fixed it up, drove it A LOT. Still runs but needs a brake line currently. These days that stuff just isn't out there.
Found your presentation interesting. I am the second owner of a 72 RR GTX. I just had to go to the garage to double check that it has roll down rear windows. My friend when he ordered the car checked a lot of the option boxes and maybe that was optional. I have the build sheet and tomorrow I will check to see. I get a big kick when I go to local car shows here in Tennessee and people say its a clone. I dont even argue with them. Have the Galen certification. Anyway its been garaged since 91 when he passed away. Also have a 70 Boss 302 W code. Some people at car shows talk to their friends that it is a regular Mustang with stripes. Thats OK have the Marti on that too. Dont argue with them I just smile and enjoy the day. The people I really have great conversations with are the small percentage of people like you that know the details of the vehicles.
Love your videos, dad purchased a 72, 340 RR and I drove a 72, RR, GTX in high school, actual U code car with roll down back windows. I miss these cars today and always said they were 30 years ahead of their time. Can still see the basic shape in cars today.
I have a 72 Road Runner with a 440 4bbl factory. I have a six barrel for it. 4 speed pistol grip. Rally wheels, etc. Very close in options to what you show there. Pretty fun and I don't really care about intake, such an easy change. It is not a GTX, but I could add the badges easy. Love the grill on the thing for sure.
It's very hard nowadays just to find a fair base model body to make a clone out of. You are right, this is an excellent example of what people would build back then, to clone the top rated cars of the day.
Thanks for showing a nice car from Maple Motors. I've been there. They have a constantly changing inventory. Some of the vehicles are better than others. It's just like you find on any car lot. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge about the cars.
I knew 2 or 3 classmates back in the early 70s when I was in high school in Arlington Texas and one of them had a 68 GTX 440 Automatic and the other was a 340 Duster that was almost new that his dad bought for him for great grades and another was the 69 Charger R/T that was a 440 Automatic and I had a 64 Pontiac GTO 389 4 Speed and it had no power anything but it ran good. All the new changes they did with body changes like this Road Runner we all thought at the time were kinda ugly.
Can you do a video series on carb tuning, working through idle circuit, bogs, AFR etc. there is so much to a carburetor and it would be awesome to hear you go into detail the way you do with all of your other content for us younger guys trying to learn a lost art. Thanks!
Back when I was growing up there were what was called Rhodes Lifters, they were the best I could tell were made with large clearences so they would bleed down at lower oil pressures. I never ran a set but I knew afew that did and they sounded just like you mention, a box of rocks. I made the mistake on my RR of installing a Purple Strip Cam because that was all the rage and looking back I should have just intalled a 6-Barrel cam and lifters. My car was an automatic and what I was told is that it had a little less cam than the 4spd cars. the car ran strong but I had a hard time getting it tuned to run good, vacuum too low, too much overlap for a street car in the Purple Shaft cam I got. I was a kid and didn't know anything, only thought More Is Better, LOL, wrong.
The original Rhoads lifters are still available and, they also have "updated" versions now. I've run them in a few engines over the years and they worked OK for hot cammed engines when you needed more vacuum. Crane Cams also offered a "variable duration" lifter back in the day. I don't recall what Crane called them and I don't know if they're still available. I never ran any of those.
I really enjoy the information shared in these videos and the vast knowledge Tony has of these muscle era cars. A demonstrated passion for the era every time. Thank you!
Nice clone car, and yeah the price isn't bad. It would be a way for someone to enjoy a classic era Mopar for a reasonable price, especially compared to the insane prices for the 68-70 Chargers. 28K would get you a pretty rough Charger that would need a helluva lot of work.
The 71 B Body is by far my favorite car ever. I don't give a crap if it's a satellite, road runner or gtx. I want the 440 6 pack with an automatic. The chassis is the same who cares which one it is, you're bolting a bunch of parts to it anyway. I don't like the 72 taillights as much as I like the 71 tail. Also I want the "boomerang" front chin spoilers. I feel like the 73 looked too much like a Gran Torino on the front but the doors back looked pretty much unchanged.
slant 6s and the german Ford V6 back in that time period so many owners were clueless that their car needed a valve adjustment every other oil change and the cars would get real loud . I test drove a 27,000 mile Ford that was clattering away even as the owner turned the radio way up . I bought it anyway for 2700 even though the asking was 3200 for a 2 year old car that had been over 7 grand new . A week later the car was silent until I replaced the single exhaust with the pre cat dual system using only the resonators and no muffler giving it that deep German 6 sound .
It’s brutal how the record keeping is with Mopar. I have a client that ordered a Last Call Challenger in a colour that technically shouldn’t exist (had to call in a favour to get it switched after ordering was closed but after the colour was available) and there’s no way to get confirmation if it’s a one of one for him.
Saw this exact car on Facebook marketplace in Wisconsin a few months back for $19,500, they did nothing to it and flipped it for 28k. So still a dirty car flipper that adds no value to the hobby
Turned my 72 Satellite with a 400 into a 71 Roadrunner clone with a Tremec 5 - Speed. My car is a total mutt. In 72 Roadrunners came with 400's too. He forgot that part.
@@kellismith4329 If the radiator hose and clamp was removed, or taped off, to touch up that's one thing. Squirting orange paint on hoses and belts is just lazy. Specially when reselling.
I've learned a lot about Road Runners over the last 20 minutes 🤣 I'm that picky guy down here when folks 'restore' our Valiants, even genuine cars they get wrong. Usually fine details that can't be unseen once picked up on. When my Pacer clone is done and out there, I'm hoping the only give away will be the incorrect body number code.
I'm sure that 1971/2 Roadrunners still had roll-down rear windows. In 1973/4, they were deleted. Growing up, my best friend owned a real 1972 Roadrunner 400-4bbl Slap-Stik and it was definitely a factory hard-top.
Correct, the windows roll down on a '72 Road Runner. My parents purchased a new (special order) '71 Runner and I restored a '72 Satellite Sebring Plus painted the same color as their vehicle (Bahama Yellow).
Ya Tony I got a lot out of this! I'm working 72 satellite junk yard/crusher rescue. So I'm looking at this thing last tagged 30 years ago, 318 no heads, no steering gear box, no diff. or drive shaft, it did how some ever have a imprint, in the side if the tunnel, of the missing drive shaft. 50 pounds of rat shit latter I'm looking at thinking "I need a donor car". hum 96 Dodge Ram 1500 Larmie?... no title, runs, bad trans, 17x9 wheels $500... good enough. 400 miles one way to get it. The 5.2 engine, other than the oil pan, dropped right in. The heater hoses go right to the heater core tubes in the fire wall, I did not expect that. I worked a deal with the local tire store, R&R a trans. for 255/50R17 and 235/50R17 tires. when I fit the diff. under it, the rear tires stick out a inch past the wheel wells 81 inches wide. yes flaring the sides is going to be a thing, it will be worth it. Getting the 46RE in there was a different story. Oh well I have welding equipment and I'm not afraid to use it. I widened the cross support 3", built a new trans. support, lined it all up with a laser transit. I cut down a 5" aluminum drive shaft . I had to get a new gas tank, fit a injection pump and sending unit in it. Does the term "Imageniering" come to mind? Worked the fuse/relay box and wiring in. Grafted the steering columns together, turned the key it started! YES!!! Getting the truck rotors on the car spindles took a little bit, fitting brake calipers and brackets took a bit more. it's nowhere near ready for the street but i can start it up and move it around now. what ever I do to this car it is better than letting it get Crushed. still having fun.
As a 72 Satellite Sebring Plus owner myself , I can definitely say that it is WAY easier to apply some clone touches to these cars nowadays than it is to restore a satellite back to original condition.... or at least in most cases. I would've LOVED to put mine back together in its original "early 70s cool" two-toned tan/sliver paint, but the darn body-line trim was so bent and distorted that it just made it impractical to do so. The next best thing, for me anyways, was to put a high impact lemon twist color on with a roadrunner decal to compliment it - and no badging. It really made it a nice eye-catching alternative to the impossible task of finding intact trim. I think the problem with most "cloners" is that more often than not, they lack the finesse needed to just let the car's beautiful body and style be the star of the show, and ultimately "over-do-it" with accessories.
Thanks Unk.... I met a guy with a 383 6-pack but it wasn't factory. Was there ever a factory set up....I don't remember a hotter 383 than a 335 hp 4 barrel.
The factory 6 barrel setups were 440 and 340 (340 only on E bodies not b bodies). There was never an iron 383 intake, just the aluminum Edelbrock, which Mopar resold over the counter.
@@auteurfiddler8706 Back in '59 there was a desoto 383 with a 2 inline 4 barrel option. It advertised 350 hp. I wonder if the later 60's heads were used what power could be reached
UTG.... Where does the trim level of a '71- '72 Plymouth "Satellite Sebring" fall into? I've only seen one in person at a car show back in the late 90's, one of my pop's friends up in upstate NY had "twins"- one 71 GTX, & one 72 Roadrunner- both were that dark metallic green (F8 style green) but one had black leather buckets, other had a tan/ brownish interior.. my favorite year Roadrunners: 68, 70, 71 (72 looked alright but 71 had the prettier grille, side mark lights, & tail lights.)
Some corrections. The 72 RR came with roll down rear windows. Every car. No RM21, just RM23. The bucket seat cars had the upgraded door panels as did the bench seat cars with the upgraded pleated bench seats. The decor package had the upgraded interior and wheel well moldings. The Road Runner had rear a sway bar on 440's for sure and probably the 400 and 340.
California 440s would have turn down exhaust with no semi circular cutouts in the valance and no Air Grabber because of "noise requirements" in 72 only. Does not apply to 73-74 for exhaust. Turn downs on 70 GTX, too.
This is why original cars that haven't entered the level of cost absurdity appeal to me the most. It's among the key reasons why I absolutely love my '72 Coronet. It's an honest to goodness time capsule that I can drive anywhere without worry. No, It will never be a moon shot priced car and while 4-door Sedans don't always get the same respect as their Coupe or Convertible counterparts, they are coming into their own mostly because they haven't become ridiculously expensive. What's more, they don't have to pretend to be something else their not. It's the real deal of what it is supposed to be and that's good enough for me.
You sure about the roll down windows not being on 71 and 72 roadrunners. Got a 71 in my driveway and it’s been a roadrunner since 71 and they roll down.
I would like your advice please. Could you recommend a wire/cap/rotor NON HEI combo for a 400+ hp 1970 340 Mopar. I'm sure you've been through a few sets in your day. The MSD's are a bit pricey. 2 must be 45 degree. Yellow or red preferably. Thanks, I'll buy you a beer...! ALL advice welcome !
Are those ford fox body style fender stiffening bars factory? I’ve never seen them on a Mopar. I have a 72 u code rallye and driving I can see some play in the fenders just slightly. Seems like a good idea but that can’t be Mopar
Tony, to your "clone vs irreplaceable part of history" point, I agree with you, and I wonder what you think that means for market value. I have a 63 Galaxie Sport Roof car that I restomodded, and put one hell of a lot of money into, and it is absolutely gorgeous. It's a new car, new everything, custom colors (tasteful and gorgeous), with less than 100 miles on it since the build. I've thought about testing the market, but established sellers simply will not come around to a valuation that reflects your point - which I agree with. Isn't a car you can drive, show off and enjoy, and is unique, as valuable as the museum piece, or at least close? Honestly I wouldn't want a straight up R-Code Galaxie 500 of that year, bc I'd be afraid to drive it. Hell, I'm afraid to drive the car I built, but not because it is irreplaceable. Thoughts?
I'm not nitpicking, but I think it's funny how this video is about being a Mopar purist but throughout the whole video you keep saying 440 six pack. On a Plymouth it's a 440 six barrel. Again, i'm just busting chops, love your videos.
Pretty wild stuff, didnt even know a Road Runner GTX existed! Just wanted to mention something. I had a '72 Road Runner with a 340 4bbl automatic (on the column), tor red with white guts, strobe stripe and hood callouts which I drove for a few years. I bought the car in like 1983 for $1200.00. Not a restored car, it was a bit rusty, original paint, just a regular car in a time when these cars were not particularly popular. It was a real car, not a clone or anything. One thing I am fairly certain of is it had roll up rear windows. Maybe my memory is wrong but I spent quite a lot of time in that back seat..um..reading poetry to my girlfriend lol. Pretty damn sure it had rollups. Man that car was roomy. Anyway, just thought I would let you know.
So someone really almost jumped through every hoop to make it the higher performance package of that car? Wow, that's a crazy labor of love. What was this person doing, trying to sell this thing as an honest ancestor?
The only dodge/chrysler fast (relatively) I ever had was a 1971 dodge demon with a 340 4 bbl. It was in the 80s. It was orange with black decals and a white interior. I loved it despite having a few electrical gremlin. I traded it for a 1987 buick GN.
My friend just bought a cloned 69' GTX. Same condition. Nice paint, little defects from years of driving. 25k$ later, got home and noticed the engine ran little funny. Got it to a shop. No compression on #8. The engine was cleaned and probably filled with stop leak??? He heeded an engine rebuilt. About this Car... The inside driver door. 100% agreement with your opinion. There rest would pass under the light and nobody notice unless would be purist. Im a purist, if I buy the car pure. I wont mind mix match if it was done trought the course of the car life. But this 75' grill emblem in door thing, is an abomination. Im sure it's the word you wanted to use by the non verbal gestures. The door panel should have been all black also. 30k for this condition, I would have clean the rust stains beside the wiper motor and put touch up where the paint was chip. A little paint in the engine bay to preserve it, not to cover any default. It's a very nice car. It is!
Great presentation, *Tony*. The elusive 1972 V code cars -- two Rallye Chargers and one Road Runner *accounted* *for* , hein ? A coupla points : 1.) Dana 60 was only available with the 4 speed , which itself was only available - listed in official literature - behind the U code 440 ; 2.) The example car's 8.25" rear indicates : a.) 318 or 400 two barrel originally b.) An - as you've mentioned - solid rear... albeit, a weak point in this car's conversion 3.) Power drum brakes ? YUCK ! The ignition wires' routing is questionable, too - those'll burn like a cheap cigarette quite rapidly ! Ne'er the less, it's a solid starting point. Pull the engine, and paint it the proper "1972 Blue" ; ditch that direct - drive fan ; put a correct radiator in that rascal; and download an 8.75" rear (if Torqueflite - equipped) or Dana 60 (if 4 - speed - equipped). I'm keen on its sedate B1 blue paint as well. It's perfect ! Keep these excellent , educational presentations coming, Tony. Been following your work for more 'an 30 years.
I like maple motors video because of the undercarriage shots. That shows a lot. Unless you grew up with these cars, or study them. Most people are clueless.
Am I the only one that remembers the trunk GTX emblem being on on the driver side and the Road Runner sticker being on the passenger side, not both on the passenger side? RM23U2R Windsor factory.
Another 1972 440+6 Road Runner has been found so there's at least two, there's actually a video about it and I'm not talking about the one in the Brothers collection although I'm not sure the car can be sold.
My dream car is a dodge neon..i want the 2.4 but im going to make it look like a 2.0 clone. No one will even suspect it anything unless they want to throw down at a stop light..then may god have mercy on their souls.
Definitely! I'm on the lookout for one, been saving up for a while. They get snapped up pretty fast when they do sell but its rare for anyone to part with them.
Buddy I worked with had a neonish Daytona, he was a freak and rebuilt the thing beautifully and could mess with the engine module and that 4 cyl had some balls it would beat any of our V8’s
We didn't get much choice down under with the Neon. Only 2.0 SOHC 4 door sedans. I own an earlier series 2, with the 3 speed auto. Great handling car once you can get it moving. Key is to keep it in the top half of the tach 😆
When I was in Auto Tech school (74-75) a classmate had a 73 Roadrunner 318 3speed. Towards the end of our training,he and I put the Satellite roll down quarter windows in it. He still has that Roadrunner. 1 repaint, it now has a 340 and 4speed in it and the same Cragar mags. It hasn't been daily driven since the early 80s but has been in a lot of car shows. It's better looking than when it was new.
Interesting thing about the 318 road runner in ‘73-‘74… it was the only factory 318 to come with dual exhaust.
My dad still has his 1970 satellite 383 727. Alpine white. He bought it in 1971with 8,000 miles on the odo. I think it's a real cool color, I'll always kept an eye out my entire life for another one in the same color. I've never seen another 70 satellite in alpine white, there couldn't have been many made.
@@drippinglass ..not fully true,the later 70's Chrysler products when you had the optional 318 4 barrel you also got duel exhaust...Yes they made cars/trucks/vans with factory 4 barrel 318's in the mid'ish up1970's!
Also the poly 318 in the 50's early 60's had duel exhaust with the 4bbl and duel 4bbl but the LA 318 the Road Runner was the first LA 318 with duel exhaust but not the only..Albeit the Poly was different than the LA 318 67-up...Had to clear that up,just for other Mopar purists..
Cool story
Satellite/roadblunder. I rather have a 63 valiant with with a Hemi.😂
I'm amazed at where this car has gone. I know this car very well! They guy who built this passed away a few years ago. He owned it since he was 16. he pretty much stopped driving it almost 20 years ago. this is a Wisconsin car, and he knew it was the only way he'd get a GTX. Its not the original paint job, but it was painted almost 40 years ago. He was very meticulous that it was as close to correct as he could get it. Thank you for your kind evaluation! I know he would appreciate it!
Thank you!
Jimmyz96, I grew up in Wisconsin and have B-1 ‘72 Satellite Sebring my dad bought new for my mom. I started putting the car away in winter to avoid road salt as soon as I acquired it from my folks. I brought it to Nevada in the 1980s. I still have it. No road salt usage in our part of the state, so it’s a year round driver.
Thanks for the history of this car. I've been interested in this car for awhile.
@@gnomeasone7945 your welcome, im still kicking myself for not buying it when i had the chance, it needed a bit more work back then, but i never figured it would fetch the price it has being a clone. once i saw the inside door panels, i knew it was the car for sure. he never could find any original road runner ones. at one time it even had the am-fm-8 track with cb radio in it too
Thank you. In 1980 I bought a 72 RR GTX. My senior year in high school. Arlington tx. RM23U I was second owner. Bone stock except for Rocket rear mags. Still had the unused Polyglass spare tire in the trunk. Every old timer bk then tried to tell me it was a fake. But all numbers matching sitting right there. So much for the know it all ol coots. Auto. Posi. Tire fryer deluxe. Great car. I ended up owning the same 1 twice. 1 of 1276 gtx upgrades. I paid 1000.
Back in 72, my boss had a new 72 Runner, 400 automatic, orange with a white interior. That car looked beautiful, a real show stopper. I always thought they really got the tail lights right on the 72, but the front side marker lights on the 71 looked great, the 72 up lights looked like they were taken off a utility trailer.
Love those wraparound bumpers; that's my favorite Road Runner/Satellite body style.
Considering how stupidly expensive old muscle-era cars became even as far back as the '90s, I long ago stopped caring about whether or not all the numbers and options match, especially when it comes to being a driver.
Excellent analysis and demonstration of how to make your own rare option muscle car.
Right on, if it's not wild looking and the wiring doesn't look like Bent and Jimmied have been in it, the numbers don't matter much on a car you'll enjoy driving
They're called "loop" bumpers. I wouldn't pay 30 grand for ANY US car. Just my take on it.
As cool as I think this car is, I find it silly to pay that for a non-original unrestored clone. And I prefer unrestored cars.
But here we are. I guess that's reality.
I got a '69 Swinger out of a guy's West Texas "Back 40" last summer. He bought it new, but around '78, decided to put the drivetrain & rear axle out of his '68 Road Runner that was totaled. Last time the car had been on the road was '81 or '82. Over the years, the bench seat, radiator, seat belts, et cetera got taken from the car. So, I got a solid & pretty straight 340 Swinger for a decent price. Not original, a bunch of "Backwoods, budget, hillbilly'd" hot rodding we had to reverse. Perfect! So it has been mini-tubbed, US Car Tools "Level II" chassis stiffening kit, '76' K-member/steering/suspension pieces, Schumacher swap kit, S21 "Police steering," 400BB/727 combo, Corbeau buckets (rear seat upholstered to match & extra headrests coming), 3-point seat belts, 11.75" rotors, Doc Diff discs on the 8.75, 26" aluminum radiator, 4-speed hump (we did pop new floors in due to rubber floormat trapping water up front), GT/GTS tail panel that will be painted body color- in the 2 large black-painted areas (and a sticker that reads Swinger 383 in the GT/GTS spot), and the factory AC will be getting operational using the factory dash box & controls, but under hood will have a Sanden compressor & new condenser/lines. I have more to do, but you get my drift-
I'm building it to be safer, nicer handling, much better braking, and be able to comfortably drive across the country. It'll never be a numbers-matching, museum-quality, "As built" collector piece
Hmm, factory a/c? It seems to be a problem w/'60s-'80s Mopars - including my beloved L-Body GLH Turbo - the condenser drain line exits the firewall in a poor position. This ensures the underhood air pressure can blow exiting moisture back to the firewall opening, which in my Omni's case was fitted with a piece of open-cell foam gasket. Moisture wicked down the interior and pooled underneath the passenger side footwell, which leads to undetected corrosion if not addressed. This is one reason you see lots of old Mopars in wrecking yards with pristine floorpans but for a completely rotted out passenger side.
After I detected the problem during a big-stereo interior removal project, I fixed the condenser drainback problem w/some rubber tubing, a piece of wire, and a handful of my mother's green gardening clay to seal the firewall gap.@@olikat8
@felisconcolor1112 it is, my issue with the front footwells was due to wiper pivot seals leaking and water getting trapped under the rubber floor cover
It caught my eye. I was impressed he managed to find the air grabber set up and grill. Who in their right mind doesn't want a 440 six pak. Some people thought it was rusty ,where I live these Satellites are long long gone. Very hard to find, maybe in a field for decades.
He had 2, the other one was earmarked for his brothers GTX, the GTX was never finished , and now both brothers have long since passed. I wish I'd have had the foresight those 2 had, I wish I'd have bought the powder blue one when it came up for sale. The reason it survived may sound silly, but it's true. Less than two months after he had it painted , a deer jumped out and either it's tooth or its horn scratched it from the front to the back. He was so paranoid, he almost never took it out again.
there is actually another fully intact set up in the estate. his brother was building a 71 GTX with a 440 magnum 4 speed. before he passed away as well.
I continue to learn more about Mopar history, design, engineering and repair from you!! You maybe UTG, but for me, you’re Mopar Wikipedia Tony !👍👍
Nick (@ Maple Motors) points out when the cars are clones, once in a while they have nice cars come through. Usually decent starter cars.
I have a collection of 72 Road Runner header panel emblems that were given out as awards to dealerships back in 72. What they did was cut off the mounting studs and added a piece of felt on the back sides more or less making them into cup coasters. I have 10 chrome emblems and one gold plated.
I remember back in the late 70’s in Hot Rod magazine a subscriber wrote in asking how many ‘73 road runner/GTX’s were made. The writer that answered the question said they were never made, and it was probably a drunken assembly line worker goofing off! 🤣
Actually there WERE some 73-74 RR GTX cars built. How many I don't know but I have seen one or two in the Mopar mags years ago.
@@clembob8004 Exactly. The magazine guy was clueless. 😀
All 1971-72 Road Runners were RM23 hardtops! All 1973-74 Road Runners were RM21 coupes with a b pillar. Excellent video!
My first Mopar was a 72’ Roadrunner, 400, 4speed. A/C, power steering, Go-Wing and front eyebrows.
Wish I never sold it.
Having owned 4 of that body style, a plain Stripper 72 Satellite, with a 400Hp and Pistol Grip, a 72 Satellite Sebring Plus, and 2 Jamaica Blue 71's that were like clones, it's by far the Best, and so comfortable at speed.IMO
I had a 72' Sebring plus in my senior year of high (88') loved that beauty b bod
I am building a 1971 GB7 blue RR right now. Guy I got it from said it came out of a barn in Kansas.
I'm a JDM car guy, but I still watch your videos Tony. I admire your detailed knowledge 👌
I think they built these in Windsor Ontario. My dad worked at the plant and used to bring me home the roadrunner stickers from work and I'd put them all over my stuff. I had that roadrunner trunk sticker on the back of my hockey helmet for my whole childhood lol.
My grandfather had the 'Satellite Sebring' version of that car. Basically that car with gold paint and a brown vinyl top. I remember riding in the backseat as a kid and listening to the rear end humming away like crazy while driving anywhere.
cheers.
Basically, what you are saying is this would have been a car a guy could afford, but he wanted the actual car in the day, so he fixed it up that way.
71 GTX 440 was the first car I built with my dad it will always be my favorite. And drove my obsession with cars and speed.
That’s Awesome.. I just got a ‘71 GTX Curious yellow. Love it.
@@bigolow641 it was yellow also. That's awesome!
I love those 'What If' '71 Superbird and Daytona cars that are floating around out there that a guy did. They are gorgeous. Those wings look like they were designed for the fuselage body.
The prices of any car, especially a good one, is outrageous anymore. Im not that old. But I can remember when you could buy an old beater for $500, drive it around for a while and sell it for $500. Now, the same condition car is $5,000. It's just ridiculous
They watch the find & rebuild videos and think you can do it in 30 minutes easily and cheap. Then sell it at Barrett Jackson for millions. So they want thousands for a pos rust bucket that would take years for a one man shop to find parts and rebuild.
in 2018 I managed to snag a $500 beater. '96 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera. Fixed it up, drove it A LOT. Still runs but needs a brake line currently. These days that stuff just isn't out there.
Just wait until you see the price of houses today!
Mopar guys and gals love to check that fender tag.
Found your presentation interesting. I am the second owner of a 72 RR GTX. I just had to go to the garage to double check that it has roll down rear windows. My friend when he ordered the car checked a lot of the option boxes and maybe that was optional. I have the build sheet and tomorrow I will check to see. I get a big kick when I go to local car shows here in Tennessee and people say its a clone. I dont even argue with them. Have the Galen certification. Anyway its been garaged since 91 when he passed away. Also have a 70 Boss 302 W code. Some people at car shows talk to their friends that it is a regular Mustang with stripes. Thats OK have the Marti on that too. Dont argue with them I just smile and enjoy the day. The people I really have great conversations with are the small percentage of people like you that know the details of the vehicles.
Tony was wrong about the fixed windows. That was true for 73, not 72.
Almost 30k for a 72 satellite!!!!! I about fell out of my seat. I never thought id see that.
Mopar prices have gone silly over the last ten years.
Enjoyed the video. Love the info on the 72 RR. I own an unmolested survivor 72 that my brother bought new, it DOES have roll down rear windows.
Love your videos, dad purchased a 72, 340 RR and I drove a 72, RR, GTX in high school, actual U code car with roll down back windows. I miss these cars today and always said they were 30 years ahead of their time. Can still see the basic shape in cars today.
I have a 72 Road Runner with a 440 4bbl factory. I have a six barrel for it. 4 speed pistol grip. Rally wheels, etc. Very close in options to what you show there. Pretty fun and I don't really care about intake, such an easy change. It is not a GTX, but I could add the badges easy. Love the grill on the thing for sure.
All ’72-74 factory U-coded (440) Road Runners are Road Runner GTXs and all left the factory with GTX badges. Well documented.
As a Mopar purist, Uncle Tony should know that Plymouth never had a Six Pak! That was in a Dodge, in a Plymouth it was referred to as a 6BBL.
It's very hard nowadays just to find a fair base model body to make a clone out of. You are right, this is an excellent example of what people would build back then, to clone the top rated cars of the day.
Thanks for showing a nice car from Maple Motors. I've been there. They have a constantly changing inventory. Some of the vehicles are better than others. It's just like you find on any car lot. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge about the cars.
Love to watch Nick at Maple Motors. They sell about 60 cars a month. I think this car sold pretty quickly.
Same Color as Bottle Rocket, would look good in your Fleet !
Thanks to wifey and you for all the awesome videos! May 2024 prosper you.
I love Mopar history lessons on a cold winter day.
I knew 2 or 3 classmates back in the early 70s when I was in high school in Arlington Texas and one of them had a 68 GTX 440 Automatic and the other was a 340 Duster that was almost new that his dad bought for him for great grades and another was the 69 Charger R/T that was a 440 Automatic and I had a 64 Pontiac GTO 389 4 Speed and it had no power anything but it ran good. All the new changes they did with body changes like this Road Runner we all thought at the time were kinda ugly.
Can you do a video series on carb tuning, working through idle circuit, bogs, AFR etc. there is so much to a carburetor and it would be awesome to hear you go into detail the way you do with all of your other content for us younger guys trying to learn a lost art. Thanks!
Pity about the color,, it is South Australian Police car powder blue
Back when I was growing up there were what was called Rhodes Lifters, they were the best I could tell were made with large clearences so they would bleed down at lower oil pressures. I never ran a set but I knew afew that did and they sounded just like you mention, a box of rocks. I made the mistake on my RR of installing a Purple Strip Cam because that was all the rage and looking back I should have just intalled a 6-Barrel cam and lifters. My car was an automatic and what I was told is that it had a little less cam than the 4spd cars. the car ran strong but I had a hard time getting it tuned to run good, vacuum too low, too much overlap for a street car in the Purple Shaft cam I got. I was a kid and didn't know anything, only thought More Is Better, LOL, wrong.
The original Rhoads lifters are still available and, they also have "updated" versions now. I've run them in a few engines over the years and they worked OK for hot cammed engines when you needed more vacuum.
Crane Cams also offered a "variable duration" lifter back in the day. I don't recall what Crane called them and I don't know if they're still available. I never ran any of those.
I really enjoy the information shared in these videos and the vast knowledge Tony has of these muscle era cars. A demonstrated passion for the era every time. Thank you!
Nice clone car, and yeah the price isn't bad. It would be a way for someone to enjoy a classic era Mopar for a reasonable price, especially compared to the insane prices for the 68-70 Chargers. 28K would get you a pretty rough Charger that would need a helluva lot of work.
Nick from Maple Motors seems like a straight up guy. He points out the issues on his cars.
The 71 B Body is by far my favorite car ever. I don't give a crap if it's a satellite, road runner or gtx. I want the 440 6 pack with an automatic. The chassis is the same who cares which one it is, you're bolting a bunch of parts to it anyway. I don't like the 72 taillights as much as I like the 71 tail. Also I want the "boomerang" front chin spoilers. I feel like the 73 looked too much like a Gran Torino on the front but the doors back looked pretty much unchanged.
Plymouth didnt have six packs. Dodge did. Plymouth had 440+6 or six barrels. Get it straight car enthusiasts
My brother had a ‘71 2 door Satellite. A lot of people thought it was a Torino.
@@stripervince1 I call my ‘70 ‘Cuda V code a Six Pack. It says “440-6” on the Shaker.
@@stripervince1 you're right but who cares everyone understands the idea
@@stripervince1 my dream is to own a 1971 Plymouth Satellite and just to piss the Mopar crowd off id put a Ford 5.0 Coyote in it.
slant 6s and the german Ford V6 back in that time period so many owners were clueless that their car needed a valve adjustment every other oil change and the cars would get real loud . I test drove a 27,000 mile Ford that was clattering away even as the owner turned the radio way up . I bought it anyway for 2700 even though the asking was 3200 for a 2 year old car that had been over 7 grand new . A week later the car was silent until I replaced the single exhaust with the pre cat dual system using only the resonators and no muffler giving it that deep German 6 sound .
The Ford Capri ? My neighbor had one of those maybe 1974ish, was a very cool car the V6 had timing gears
Elitist Uncle Tony is best Uncle Tony
Survivor car turned clone. The survivor part is what’s important in my eyes
It’s brutal how the record keeping is with Mopar. I have a client that ordered a Last Call Challenger in a colour that technically shouldn’t exist (had to call in a favour to get it switched after ordering was closed but after the colour was available) and there’s no way to get confirmation if it’s a one of one for him.
It isn’t.
Colour? Favour?
Did the Horn work.
If it didn't that would be a deal breaker.
yes
Good one!
Saw this exact car on Facebook marketplace in Wisconsin a few months back for $19,500, they did nothing to it and flipped it for 28k. So still a dirty car flipper that adds no value to the hobby
I forget where else I saw this car but when I did see it I was really curious what Uncle Tony would think about it.
Hey Uncle, I love your videos on Mopar Purity. We need this info out there !
my 72 road runner had roll down back windows. have it since the 80s. its a 340 4 speed car
A VERY informative video, Tony. Thank you.
Saw this on maple motors and I immediately thought of UTG.🤣
Not seeing this car on Maple Motors' website. Sold already?
I just looked. It sold.
That wouldn’t last long
I had a 72 340 4 speed Roadrunner..i was pillarless...it had on the tag a code for Charger/GTX interiour.
Yes, mine two. He was wrong about the windows. All were RM23 hard top, not RM21 coupe
Turned my 72 Satellite with a 400 into a 71 Roadrunner clone with a Tremec 5 - Speed. My car is a total mutt.
In 72 Roadrunners came with 400's too. He forgot that part.
12:20 The orange over spray on water pump/ Thermostat is a turnoff. Little things...
You would hate my engines, when I take them apart I paint everything grey pulleys, balancer everything
@@kellismith4329 If the radiator hose and clamp was removed, or taped off, to touch up that's one thing. Squirting orange paint on hoses and belts is just lazy. Specially when reselling.
@@movaughn20 yes I agree, I wouldn’t even think about painting it unless I had it disassembled
Tony go down there and pay them a visit. They are there in Tennessee.
AND...it's Bottle Rocket Blue!!!
29,000 for a nice honest car like this instead of the junk that would get you at a regular dealership....yes please all day long❤
I've learned a lot about Road Runners over the last 20 minutes 🤣
I'm that picky guy down here when folks 'restore' our Valiants, even genuine cars they get wrong. Usually fine details that can't be unseen once picked up on. When my Pacer clone is done and out there, I'm hoping the only give away will be the incorrect body number code.
I am going to bet somebody has a real 1972 Road Runner that was rear ended and they moved all the parts onto this car.
Or a really rusty one that was the same color and yes, all the goodies swapped to a little old lady solid satellite. I have seen this before.
I saw a 72 b body and I'm glued!
I'm sure that 1971/2 Roadrunners still had roll-down rear windows. In 1973/4, they were deleted. Growing up, my best friend owned a real 1972 Roadrunner 400-4bbl Slap-Stik and it was definitely a factory hard-top.
Yes, mine two. He was wrong about the windows. All were RM23 hard top, not RM21 coupe
Correct, the windows roll down on a '72 Road Runner. My parents purchased a new (special order) '71 Runner and I restored a '72 Satellite Sebring Plus painted the same color as their vehicle (Bahama Yellow).
I currently have a 71. The rear windows do roll down.
I wish the tail light lenses for the 72 were cheaper.
Ya Tony I got a lot out of this! I'm working 72 satellite junk yard/crusher rescue. So I'm looking at this thing last tagged 30 years ago, 318 no heads, no steering gear box, no diff. or drive shaft, it did how some ever have a imprint, in the side if the tunnel, of the missing drive shaft. 50 pounds of rat shit latter I'm looking at thinking "I need a donor car". hum 96 Dodge Ram 1500 Larmie?... no title, runs, bad trans, 17x9 wheels $500... good enough. 400 miles one way to get it. The 5.2 engine, other than the oil pan, dropped right in. The heater hoses go right to the heater core tubes in the fire wall, I did not expect that. I worked a deal with the local tire store, R&R a trans. for 255/50R17 and 235/50R17 tires. when I fit the diff. under it, the rear tires stick out a inch past the wheel wells 81 inches wide. yes flaring the sides is going to be a thing, it will be worth it. Getting the 46RE in there was a different story. Oh well I have welding equipment and I'm not afraid to use it. I widened the cross support 3", built a new trans. support, lined it all up with a laser transit. I cut down a 5" aluminum drive shaft . I had to get a new gas tank, fit a injection pump and sending unit in it. Does the term "Imageniering" come to mind? Worked the fuse/relay box and wiring in. Grafted the steering columns together, turned the key it started! YES!!! Getting the truck rotors on the car spindles took a little bit, fitting brake calipers and brackets took a bit more. it's nowhere near ready for the street but i can start it up and move it around now. what ever I do to this car it is better than letting it get Crushed. still having fun.
As a 72 Satellite Sebring Plus owner myself , I can definitely say that it is WAY easier to apply some clone touches to these cars nowadays than it is to restore a satellite back to original condition.... or at least in most cases. I would've LOVED to put mine back together in its original "early 70s cool" two-toned tan/sliver paint, but the darn body-line trim was so bent and distorted that it just made it impractical to do so. The next best thing, for me anyways, was to put a high impact lemon twist color on with a roadrunner decal to compliment it - and no badging. It really made it a nice eye-catching alternative to the impossible task of finding intact trim.
I think the problem with most "cloners" is that more often than not, they lack the finesse needed to just let the car's beautiful body and style be the star of the show, and ultimately "over-do-it" with accessories.
Nice job, it was a 72 Sebring Plus, which had that door panel in 73 as well.
Thanks Unk....
I met a guy with a 383 6-pack but it wasn't factory. Was there ever a factory set up....I don't remember a hotter 383 than a 335 hp 4 barrel.
The factory 6 barrel setups were 440 and 340 (340 only on E bodies not b bodies). There was never an iron 383 intake, just the aluminum Edelbrock, which Mopar resold over the counter.
@@auteurfiddler8706 Back in '59 there was a desoto 383 with a 2 inline 4 barrel option. It advertised 350 hp. I wonder if the later 60's heads were used what power could be reached
@@oops1952 I have a low deck intake for that setup. Low desk 383.
There was also a high deck 383 which could use the 413 dual quad intake.
Tony's loves this body style. That's what grabbed his attention!!!
I had an authentic 440 6 pack intake in my hands once...
UTG.... Where does the trim level of a '71- '72 Plymouth "Satellite Sebring" fall into?
I've only seen one in person at a car show back in the late 90's, one of my pop's friends up in upstate NY had "twins"- one 71 GTX, & one 72 Roadrunner- both were that dark metallic green (F8 style green) but one had black leather buckets, other had a tan/ brownish interior.. my favorite year Roadrunners: 68, 70, 71 (72 looked alright but 71 had the prettier grille, side mark lights, & tail lights.)
Satellite Coupe
The tittle 😂😂 absolutely brilliant
Some corrections. The 72 RR came with roll down rear windows. Every car. No RM21, just RM23. The bucket seat cars had the upgraded door panels as did the bench seat cars with the upgraded pleated bench seats. The decor package had the upgraded interior and wheel well moldings. The Road Runner had rear a sway bar on 440's for sure and probably the 400 and 340.
I prefer the correct orange spark plug wires, and tan distributor cap (with brass, not copper contacts).
California 440s would have turn down exhaust with no semi circular cutouts in the valance and no Air Grabber because of "noise requirements" in 72 only. Does not apply to 73-74 for exhaust. Turn downs on 70 GTX, too.
This is why original cars that haven't entered the level of cost absurdity appeal to me the most. It's among the key reasons why I absolutely love my '72 Coronet. It's an honest to goodness time capsule that I can drive anywhere without worry. No, It will never be a moon shot priced car and while 4-door Sedans don't always get the same respect as their Coupe or Convertible counterparts, they are coming into their own mostly because they haven't become ridiculously expensive. What's more, they don't have to pretend to be something else their not. It's the real deal of what it is supposed to be and that's good enough for me.
You sure about the roll down windows not being on 71 and 72 roadrunners. Got a 71 in my driveway and it’s been a roadrunner since 71 and they roll down.
Never seen a gloss black Air Grabber before either.
I would like your advice please. Could you recommend a wire/cap/rotor NON HEI combo for a 400+ hp 1970 340 Mopar. I'm sure you've been through a few sets in your day. The MSD's are a bit pricey. 2 must be 45 degree. Yellow or red preferably. Thanks, I'll buy you a beer...! ALL advice welcome !
Are those ford fox body style fender stiffening bars factory? I’ve never seen them on a Mopar. I have a 72 u code rallye and driving I can see some play in the fenders just slightly. Seems like a good idea but that can’t be Mopar
Tony, to your "clone vs irreplaceable part of history" point, I agree with you, and I wonder what you think that means for market value. I have a 63 Galaxie Sport Roof car that I restomodded, and put one hell of a lot of money into, and it is absolutely gorgeous. It's a new car, new everything, custom colors (tasteful and gorgeous), with less than 100 miles on it since the build. I've thought about testing the market, but established sellers simply will not come around to a valuation that reflects your point - which I agree with. Isn't a car you can drive, show off and enjoy, and is unique, as valuable as the museum piece, or at least close? Honestly I wouldn't want a straight up R-Code Galaxie 500 of that year, bc I'd be afraid to drive it. Hell, I'm afraid to drive the car I built, but not because it is irreplaceable. Thoughts?
Good review. Glad to see these cars preserved and driving, ver nice Mopar.
I'm not nitpicking, but I think it's funny how this video is about being a Mopar purist but throughout the whole video you keep saying 440 six pack. On a Plymouth it's a 440 six barrel. Again, i'm just busting chops, love your videos.
Pretty wild stuff, didnt even know a Road Runner GTX existed! Just wanted to mention something. I had a '72 Road Runner with a 340 4bbl automatic (on the column), tor red with white guts, strobe stripe and hood callouts which I drove for a few years. I bought the car in like 1983 for $1200.00. Not a restored car, it was a bit rusty, original paint, just a regular car in a time when these cars were not particularly popular. It was a real car, not a clone or anything. One thing I am fairly certain of is it had roll up rear windows. Maybe my memory is wrong but I spent quite a lot of time in that back seat..um..reading poetry to my girlfriend lol. Pretty damn sure it had rollups. Man that car was roomy. Anyway, just thought I would let you know.
So someone really almost jumped through every hoop to make it the higher performance package of that car? Wow, that's a crazy labor of love. What was this person doing, trying to sell this thing as an honest ancestor?
The only dodge/chrysler fast (relatively) I ever had was a 1971 dodge demon with a 340 4 bbl. It was in the 80s. It was orange with black decals and a white interior. I loved it despite having a few electrical gremlin. I traded it for a 1987 buick GN.
My friend just bought a cloned 69' GTX. Same condition. Nice paint, little defects from years of driving. 25k$ later, got home and noticed the engine ran little funny. Got it to a shop. No compression on #8. The engine was cleaned and probably filled with stop leak??? He heeded an engine rebuilt.
About this Car... The inside driver door. 100% agreement with your opinion.
There rest would pass under the light and nobody notice unless would be purist. Im a purist, if I buy the car pure. I wont mind mix match if it was done trought the course of the car life. But this 75' grill emblem in door thing, is an abomination. Im sure it's the word you wanted to use by the non verbal gestures. The door panel should have been all black also.
30k for this condition, I would have clean the rust stains beside the wiper motor and put touch up where the paint was chip. A little paint in the engine bay to preserve it, not to cover any default. It's a very nice car. It is!
Great presentation, *Tony*. The elusive 1972 V code cars -- two Rallye Chargers and one Road Runner *accounted* *for* , hein ?
A coupla points :
1.) Dana 60 was only available with the 4 speed , which itself was only available - listed in official literature - behind the U code 440 ;
2.) The example car's 8.25" rear indicates :
a.) 318 or 400 two barrel originally
b.) An - as you've mentioned - solid rear... albeit, a weak point in this car's conversion
3.) Power drum brakes ? YUCK !
The ignition wires' routing is questionable, too - those'll burn like a cheap cigarette quite rapidly !
Ne'er the less, it's a solid starting point. Pull the engine, and paint it the proper "1972 Blue" ; ditch that direct - drive fan ; put a correct radiator in that rascal; and download an 8.75" rear (if Torqueflite - equipped) or Dana 60 (if 4 - speed - equipped).
I'm keen on its sedate B1 blue paint as well. It's perfect !
Keep these excellent , educational presentations coming, Tony.
Been following your work for more 'an 30 years.
I like maple motors video because of the undercarriage shots. That shows a lot. Unless you grew up with these cars, or study them. Most people are clueless.
I bought a car from Maple motors in 2017 they were really good to work with and the car was presented honestly.
Am I the only one that remembers the trunk GTX emblem being on on the driver side and the Road Runner sticker being on the passenger side, not both on the passenger side?
RM23U2R Windsor factory.
This car has already been sold.
The wheel well opening holes are actually on the car, you can see them. The trim is just missing!
This is great. I really like Maple Motors videos and this is great added information of what people are doing out there.
Another 1972 440+6 Road Runner has been found so there's at least two, there's actually a video about it and I'm not talking about the one in the Brothers collection although I'm not sure the car can be sold.
According to the articles I've seen only 3 440-6 were produced. One Roadrunner and two Chargers.
Had a chance to buy 72 GTX 440-6 back in the mid 70’s but somebody made an application to buy the car ahead of me and got it.
What happen to the 318 engine build or did i miss something.
Kit from down under
A lot of people bucked up over that body style, preferring the previous. I thought they were absolutely gorgeous!
Representing, Tony with your rainbow book mark.
Ouch!
Great upload Tony you should do more like this 👍🏴
Spotted the Bottle Rocket die-cast 👍 like these info videos , cheers from Downunder Australia 🍻
Maple Motors is very open and I like their videos, just like how I like your videos
They're nice cars I just never cared for that particular body style
My dream car is a dodge neon..i want the 2.4 but im going to make it look like a 2.0 clone. No one will even suspect it anything unless they want to throw down at a stop light..then may god have mercy on their souls.
I like the Neon. Nice examples of the 1st gen are still out there.
Killer ride
Definitely! I'm on the lookout for one, been saving up for a while. They get snapped up pretty fast when they do sell but its rare for anyone to part with them.
Buddy I worked with had a neonish Daytona, he was a freak and rebuilt the thing beautifully and could mess with the engine module and that 4 cyl had some balls it would beat any of our V8’s
We didn't get much choice down under with the Neon. Only 2.0 SOHC 4 door sedans. I own an earlier series 2, with the 3 speed auto. Great handling car once you can get it moving. Key is to keep it in the top half of the tach 😆
I need to use that saying for a rough engine next time I hear one - "A coffee can full of rocks" 😆