JINJER "JUDGEMENT (& PUNISHMENT)" REACTION | SHEESH!! ONLY ONE TAKE?!?!
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Tatiana is the QUEEN 🖤
She is the Queen of Fry
who woulda ever thought Reggae and Metal blended could be so amazing?
Skindred. 😊
@@jen.g. touché
@@jen.g. right on , I forgot about skindred
@@jen.g. Rap+metalcore, Reggae+metalcore Jazz+metalcore, metalcore ballad. It's only Jinjer, nobody else. Others do something too, like Spiritbox do metalcore+pop. But no one else does everything together. Of course it is my judgment :)
Metal can blend with anything if you do it properly. :) And us metal heads love to try. It makes us like tons of types of music... but we always come back to metal. :)
"Your judgement, sign your own punishment"
She uses what's known as a false cord growl to avoid damaging her vocal cords. Tatiana is a total badass, and the band Jinjer is phenomenal. You can't go wrong with any track you pick!
What's a false cord?
@@mornemarais4089 in your throat you have vocal chords as well as what are known as false chords.
Okay, gonna try to give you a history of Jinjer. Band was formed in 2009 with 3 male members, Maksym Fatullaiev (vocals), Dmitriy Oksen (rhythm guitar and founder of Jinjer), and Vyacheslav Okhrimenko (drums), all from Ukraine. In 2010, Maksym & Vyacheslav left the band and Tatiana & Roman (guitarist) joined. A year later Eugene (bassist) joined. In 2015, Dmitriy left the band to pursue an acting carrer. They went through several drummers (one of which fell asleep on a window sill, fell out, and becoming paralyzed), until 2016 when Vlad became their current drummer. All were from Ukraine and had to leave due to the war in their towns. For several years they were just touring and traveling without a home until recent when they settled in Kiev, Ukraine where the war isn't having as much of an impact. If you watch their video Home Back, it's all about the war in their country.
If you wanna know her whole story. Check out when she hade a "tea-time" interview with Opera singer ,Zharoff ( The Charismatic Voice)👍
If you look up the lyrics and follow along you will be able to understand her growls. The more you listen it gets easier. If you are interested in checking out early Jinjer. Check their songs Destroy , Scissors or Walts (Live BEASTIARIUM) there studio recordings from 2011
God bless you for knowing destroy live from the beastiarium 🙏
@@bearloh4740 still one of my favorites
The more you listen to growling vocals you’ll start to understand more and more great job guys 🤘🏾
Exactly
There is a metal band called Skindred that does metal/reggae fusion. As for Jinjer and their beginnings, none of the members now are original and came in after they were an established band.
"Home back" and "pit of consciousness" should be the next ones. Both are amazing songs :D
Damn their full Macro album is just nuts
The depth she sinks to in her vocals on home back is absolutely astounding.
Try checking out more of their live songs, the level of technicalitie they bring to them is fucking mind blowing 🤯 Also sometimes checking out lyrics afterwards is a good idea, Tatiana writes her own so they're often deep and very personal.
With harsh vocals the more you listen to it the more you understand it. You have to think of it as an instrument like a guitar you can play it soft and beautiful or heavy and brutal.
exactly, and even for those of us who have listened to whole of harsh vocals some singers can still be hard to hear :P
I loved Asia's head movement "she's got skills"
when she looked into the camera that was so cool !!!
They are amazing live. So much energy, and you can tell that they want to make sure they give you everything they have, every night, every crowd.
If you read the lyrics while she's growling, overtime your ears will become accustomed to and understand the words in her growls. It's almost like training your ears. Also, try to read her lips while looking at the lyrics.
I had to do that with Lamb of God. now I can understand most growls right away.
Best way to learn what all metal singers say in the growl is to Have lyrics up and follow them. After a little while you will start hearing it. I use to listen to Old-School hip-hop and converted to Metal. It took me some time to understand. You got this though. Great reactions keep em up.
And I love that she's wearing Rasta Colors. Red Gold n Green. Bless.
Tatiana writes some of the best lyrics especially since English is not her first language and she writes in Ukrainian and then translates it to English. Anyway the lyrics We came from the lands
Where kindness equals weakness
Feelings are conditional
And help is something supernatural
Your judgments sign your own punishment
Your judgments sign your own punishment
Yes, it is what it is
I know you're pissed off
Narrow minds cannot believe
What they hear
An individual with bitter inner world
Is a cause of deficiency of goodness and love
Of goodness and love
All your good intentions are muted and disabled (Booyah!)
Tell me what you're gonna bring to the table?
Do you know we're gonna eat at the same table?
This is what it is!
I know you're pissed off
Narrow minds cannot believe
In what they hear
Their system of beliefs experiences stress
Mental impenitence put into the test
So, if you are here
To bring the atmosphere of fear
Don't bother, brother
Don't bother, brother
The power of speech
Is idled away
Poison is spilled
Dirty moths sting
Sting
Don't bother, brother
We've seen things that can't be unseen
Don't bother, brother
That's exactly what makes us go even farther
This is what it is
I know you're pissed off
Narrow minds cannot believe
In what they hear
Their system of beliefs experiences stress
Mental impenitence put into the test
Your judgments sign your own punishment
Your judgment, your punishment
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "SHE GOT SKILLS!" I can't tell you how many times I have had to explain "Fry Screams". More times than I care to, and Asia says all that is necessary..........."SHE GOT SKILLS!" No need to say any more.
when she looked at the camera at the end, it was scarey and epic
Tati is beast mode
Jinjer are top level musicians
You two should DEFINITELY go check them out live. You won't be disappointed and you most certainly will not be the only black folks at the show. I've seen them twice, both times they were amazing. That's saying alot since I have been going to metal shows ( real metal, not the hair bands) since Slayer dropped Show No Mercy in the 80s. I gotta say, I've seen more people of color at Jinjer shows than I have ever seen at any other metal show. This band just appeals to everyone, breaks all the barriers. That's what music is about
Go to a concert!! You won’t regret it. North American tour starts in October. Wife and i have tickets for the Dallas Texas show at house of blues in December. Y’all should go. Be our 2nd time
I'll be at that same show. My first time seeing them though
@@Tateorsomething its amazing
So she uses a technique known as false folds it’s a trick with her vocal cords and it’s a technique that prevents her from frying her voice
There is another lady that does reaction videos. She was able to get the lead singer of a metal band to come in, forget name of band, to video their larynx as they sang. It was really weird looking to see how the vocal cords actually work. If I find the video I can share it with you. It shows what the larynx does for different growls.
skills...that's facts...she does kick ass and u two are kicking some too. Keep em coming. Jinjer is working on a new album...can't wait
Asia & Lexi gonna dip off to a few Metal shows soon, watch what I’m sayin! Brad & Bj gunna be gettin selfies from them both surfing 🏄 that crowd at a Jinjer show one day.
Asian and lex would be way to much hot in one place the nuke would go off please lawd help us
Asia and Lexi?
Great reaction you guys! Was fun watching you navigate this one. I love this song from Jinjer and performance from Tatiana! The name Jinjer actually was simply what the sound of distorted guitars make in a palm muted power cord. There is no hidden meaning or anything else, it was just a silly name mean to mimic the sound of heavy metal guitar tone founded way back at the beginning before Tatiana was even in the band. Back when they had a male singer in 08/09. There are no original members left, but Roman on the guitar is the longest standing member, with Tatiana second I believe and Eugene on bass right about the same time. The thing is all the members current and from past knew each other running in small circles in the music and party scene in small town in Ukrain, and played in each other old bands etc. There is a lot more to the story but it would fill the entire page, so this is all I'm going to offer.
I've watched hundreds of Jinjer reactions, yours are top notch!😅
This is my favorite song by them. I love All they so but this is My favorite.
Asia!!! you are a singer, look at her throat while she sing, this is the perfect video for that... youll see how much easy it is for her... she is not even forcing it. Just watch her neck.
Yep, she is definitely extremely talented. Her technique is actually pretty unique. She taught herself. She tried learning through RUclips instruction videos and that kind of stuff but found it didn't work for her. She then started doing it with a band and it started to make sense to her, but she can't explain it. A lot of people try to define it and categorize it and it really seems to be pretty unique to her. She seems to do a mix of common techniques but in her own way. So the sound is definitely more unique. I've heard a fair amount of growlers and screamers and she definitely has much more depth and sound behind her growls and screams. A lot of times a pure false cord growl will be pretty hollow sounding. She definitely sings and growls/screams from her soul. Love it. Here's the Loudwire interview about how she learned how to scream: ruclips.net/video/UBrqWYMBm60/видео.html&ab_channel=Loudwire
As far as understanding it, it'll take a bit of time, but definitely, like any song, have the lyrics handy. I have to do that with just "regular" songs sometimes depending on what's going on with the music. But you'll start understanding her pretty quickly. She does a really good job of enunciating when she goes into her extreme vocals (compared to others I've heard). She does her best as she really wants people to understand what she is saying as she puts a lot effort into the lyrics. She isn't just making noise to make noise and sound "cool". She uses her different vocals to express what she is saying. All of their songs have a message. There isn't really any shallow stuff from them. Another reason I like them.
Definitely do Who is Gonna Be the One live. The ending has some cool stuff you'll like since you liked this. A great performance: Who is Gonna Be the One: Live at Atlas 2017 - ruclips.net/video/U6rv5qi8-8s/видео.html&ab_channel=NapalmRecords
I was so excited to see this reaction in my feed. As with all Jinjer songs, the lyrics r so good. I’d suggest looking up the lyrics before listening to the song. That way you’ll know the topic as well as train your ear to hear what she’s saying.... great reaction and keep em coming
Love it y’all Asia so focused into Taty 😂🤝🏽🤘🏽🔥🔥🔥
Fun surprise for yourselves with all metal like this: go read the lyrics while listening to the song. It’ll freak you out the first time you realize you can hear all of it.
I do know the Eugene the bassist was an English teacher and that Tati went to college to teach but has never actually had a job but has been in several different bands with different styles before Jinjer. As far as the other 2 idk but also none of the 4 current members were one of the 5 members on the first EP Tati, Roman and Eugene all joined before the 2nd EP/ 1st album depending on what country ur in. Also Dmitry Oksen was the only member that was on the first EP who stayed after which he left after Cloud Factory
Their entire show from Australia this year is on youtube. I meant to watch a few minutes...and then watched it til my phone died.
Seeing people discover music outside their norm and having their minds blown is so great to watch! Seeing as y'all are falling into a new universe of music, ya might be ready to take the next logical step:
Devin Townsend - Kingdom Another endless rabbit hole of pure brilliance
I love the order you guys are experiencing Jinjer! Get that Home Back video, and check their earlier video Outlander!
Great reaction. You want more Reggae singing by Jinjer, that would be who's gonna be the one. The live version Napalm records will be it. It comes at the end but before that the musicians kick butt and Tatiana pours out some good energy. Hope you do it soon. I'm confident you both will appreciate what you see and hear. Thank you! Darn just realized I haven't subbed yet-sorry. Boom now I did.
This woman is next level cool.
Honestly, I'm a 40yo whiteass metalhead, and I often don't understand what they growl unless I read along one time while listening to the song. Then I can not unhear it anymore :) Don't worry if you can't understand it. SOmetimes, it's just enough to listen to the power of the growl , at least, for me :D Also, never feel akward if you don't know the right terminology or what not, it's a whole new world you're discovering, and I'm sure us white people look the same when discovering rap and hip hop and stuff :D I just love seeing people gettting to know music they're not at all familiar with and seeing the respect for the musicianship. Much love from Belgium
I’ve always found that looking up the lyrics after the first listen and then going back and putting them in like puzzle pieces really helps me understand the song much more thoroughly. Another great song that mixes it up by them is Who Is Gonna Be The One
Tatiana is just awesome! I just saw them live last night in Boston at a venue called Big Night Live. What an AWESOME show! If you ever get the chance to see them live, don't miss them. 😁
Y’all should check the lyrics after, some deep stuff ..Ok now time for jinjer- who’s gonna be the one live video!! And teacher teacher official vid
That's my favorite live vid of theirs.
I agree... i watch a lot of these reactions and everyone is just so blown away by Tatiana (rightfully so) that the depth of the lyrics she writes gets overlooked
Watch the "Fairy Voice Mother" react to Pisces. She explains everything, and she's really good with all her voices. She knows what she's talking about.
The thing about metal you learn develope an ear for it, just like Black Coffee you develope a taste for it... in time the more you listen the more you understand! Love the reaction!
she's doing it with the upper vocal tube
through vibrations in her mouth muscles..
I said it before and ill keep saying it....I WANT ONE!!!!!!
Thank you so much for doing this reaction! I’m loving your reactions!!
And English is their second language so bravo to her on that as well
That chorus was killer! Whole tune was amazing.
Respect is the best word for this. Or maybe epic.
it takes years Asia to be able to listen a growler 1st time and hear what he says. you got to get use to the style, used to the singer too cause they are all different in their technics.
Some singers I still can figure out their bars without the lyrics... and Ive been a metal head for 30 years.
"Who is Gonna Be the One" has a short Reggae-ish vibe to it at the end but I think that's all.. check out "I Speak Astronomy!".. you won't be disappointed
Tatiana was in many bands prior including Jazz & Reggae
Making metalheads out of you yet! A great next video would be "Retrospection", either official music video or the Live from Kiev video...hell, check them BOTH out. Won't be disappointed. The song is a heartfelt dedication to the band's parents who sacrificed everything for them to chase their dreams and how, because of the war in Ukraine, they aren't able to see them all that often. It's a very beautiful song! Find lyrics either before you react or after...worth a read through for sure!
Y’all GOTTA do “Home Back” (thumbnail popped up at the end of the video you watched). Super deep and emotional song, but tell me if you hear the “girl voice” in the growls at the end… 😆 Good video, though. I appreciate the actual commentary instead of just 4-5 minutes of head bobbing and a “thanks for watching”. Keep it up.
Now you two must check out J & P live from Melbourne. 🤘 BTW , this one take vid was done at her boyfriends apartment. She stayed with him in Los Angeles during "lockdown" from April '20 to Sep. '20.
Mixing reggae and metal together it's called Rastacore Bad Brains made it popular. There is a lot of bands who still do Rastacore. And if you go look up growl there's actually a tutorial on how to do it. You need to get into some of the black rock bands .Keep rocking thank you . You are the best so far. Your reactions are natural they're not phony as some of these reactors are. You go hard.
Tati fronted other bands b4 Jinjer...including a band that did all Nirvana covers but reggae versions !
Jinjer originally had a male singer...they had about 4 drummers...and a 2nd guitar player that left cuz he didn't think the band was going anywhere...if u watch older vids there's 2 guitar players.
Great analysis and fun. :) I never listened to growls until I found Jinjer, took a while for my ears to learn to decode the distortion. It gets easier. Nobody will criticize you for reading lyrics of Jinjer songs - before, during, or after. And if they do they are stupid haha. Gotta see them in an on-stage recording now. Perennial live at Wacken is similar in hardness to Pisces. Who Is Gonna Be The One is harder than this with even lower growls, but also has a bit of reggae.
Tati is always asking the guys to compose more reggae, but it depends on what riffs they think up. They create the music first, then she finds inspiration for the lyrics and weaves her vocals into the musical composition.
To be honest, it takes practice to hear what vocalists are saying when they growl. I usually just look up the lyrics and read through them while listening. Then it starts to stick. And I’ve been listening to metal for decades. It’s not easy. Personally, I think I looking up the lyrics is important in metal because the lyrics are so deep. So, it’s not a bad thing. 😊
The more you listen to this type of music the more you’ll understand .....you’ll get a ear for it
Love Jinjer. There is also a band from Moldavia that is almost as good as Jinjer. I said almost. Infected Rain. They too have a female vocalist who also can do clean, scream and growl. And switch between just like that. Lena Scissorhands (Elena Kataraga). Check out some of their videos. I suggest "Mold" as my favorite.
Love you guys!!!🤘🔥🖤🔥🤘jinjer Baby!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Their song
Who is going to be the one live.
Has a little reggae in it.
she start to sing at 8yrs i believew shes over 25 now for sure sooo! good review !
Google the lyrics. She writes all their songs and she's a great writer.
She actually has a very clear growl. The thing about harsh vocals like this is the more you listen to the style, easier it is to hear what they're saying. Having someone good at it also helps :)
she got skills is the best explanation anyone has ever given in a jinjer reaction.
Spiritbox, Infected Rain, The Anchor and Lauren Babic are all bands/artists that have female vocalists that are similar to Jinjer. Spiritbox has some one take vocal recordings on their channel.
I believe Eugene is an original member of Jinjer but the rest all came in at different times and evetually built the Jinjer that it is today. None of them kniw why its their band name. Or ive heard Tati say. She was also making Ska music before she got into heavy metal
in my opinion Tatiana has the sexiest growl in the entire music industry.
Tati is the bees knees- but don’t forget about Roman, Eugene, and Vlad. I saw them a few weeks ago in Philly and they absolutely killed it.
An important thing to understand about how the growl sound is generated is that you do not engage your vocal folds. This means all the distortion that makes the sound is being generated by different parts of your throat and neck wiggling which is far less precise than your vocal folds which are a high precision part of your body.
If you want to get an idea of how that affects the way you say words try to speak with burps or coughs. You'll see that it's very easy to make vowel sounds because those are typically only controlled with the shape of the mouth but consonants get significantly blunted. This will cause Tatiana to stress different sounds and words when she's singing then when she's growling. once you learn to pick up this basic difference it becomes very easy to understand what she's saying. But it does take some practice either listening to a bunch of different screamers while reading the lyrics to kind of pick up on it or trying to do it yourself so you can get used to how it would sound if you tried to say it.
She has a video of her explaining how she learned to growl and sing. I'm a male heavy metal singer and her video taught me some awesome shit!
can you imagine telling her kids to pick up their toys, using the growl
Jinjer &Tati are the greatest band out there today, period.
Not sure if you have done teacher teacher by Jinjer .. but that technically is one of my favorite songs by them, I have went to Catholic school and it reminds me of a lot that happened back in those days 35 years ago. I am 47 years old now and I went to Catholic school from kindergarten until 6th grade....
Also to answer some of your questions about Jinjer ... None of the people in the band now were originally in the band from the beginning. They decided to keep the name and based on the group's decision the name of the band Jinjer describes the sound of the guitars ... Jin , jer .... As they have mentioned in one of their several interviews.
And you had mentioned not being able to understand the growls, that is something you have to get an ear for because technically I have been into rock and heavy metal music most of my life and it is easy for me to understand but it is very hard for me to understand a lot of rap music because of the way things are said in rap music. It is just a matter of if you have an ear for it and the more you listen to the more you get an ear for
Good reaction. I have problems picking up the growl too. Lyric sheets help. Try JINJER - Who Is Gonna Be The One (Live) | Napalm Records to see a great live performance from the band and how they integrate reggae into their vibe. Keep counting the beats through the song.
Need to check out "Home Back". They are from Ukraine and they come from a war torn area. The song kinda talks about it.... 🔥🔥🔥
She's got skills!!
They're from Ukraine. Tatiana has said many times Reggae is a huge influence on her.
Asia's on point in this one
Total perfection
Fun reaction! Aweome display of vocal skill in an amazing blend of genres! About the growls, the more your hear the more you pick up, and Tatiana´s growls are easier to get than general because of her technique and the way she enunciates every word. They have a lot of genres incorporated but this is the only one with pure reaggae. You can try "Who´s Gonna Be The One" live, it has a ska reaggaeish part in it, it´s a hell of a track and the live performance is one of their best. Peace.
Understanding the growl is just an ear. Lyrics help a lot!! Lol
By the way, she doesn't warm up. When asked, "how do you warm up" she states, "a cigarette and a shot of vodka".
Listen to the low-ass growls at the end of "Home Back" official video. Much deeper!!!
And she sing almost every day when go touring
I love how music transcends genres!!! 😁🎶💚
She flexed on this one.
Otep was one of if not, the first female guttural singer, about 20 years ago.
Your judgements sign your own punishment
The founding member vocalist of Jinjer is a guy called Maxime, but they already had that mixture of screams and cleans at the time. Most of the founding members only stuck around for a year or two, Tatiana, Roman and Eugene are with the band for a pretty long time now, and Vlad is now their longest lasting drummer too. Tatiana initially joined the band as a short term replacement, but was such a good fit that she became the main vocalist.
Tatiana herself was in a couple other bands before. I give you a couple example videos, but they're obviously not the same audio quality. Prophecy was already similar to Jinjer in that it was metal with mixed vocals, while The Kodry was more of a reggae / jazz type of band.
Super rare video of Tatiana Shmayluk with former band Prophecy (before Jinjer): ruclips.net/video/KGoaElBN7xg/видео.html
КоDrЫ Tatiana Shmaylyuk before Jinjer in her band The Kodry - Dub Vader: ruclips.net/video/YEclFxlVfvo/видео.html
Understanding her growls and screams is a matter of getting used to it. Try to listen to the song again while reading the lyrics and you'll hear it. The story of that technique is a lot of blown out voices and permanently damaged vocal cords of death metal vocalists, until at some point someone figured out a way to do this safely. Nowadays there are a few vocal coaches that can teach you, but Tatiana is self taught and doesn't fully know what or how she is doing it herself.
This and Who Is Gonna Be The One live are the only Jinjer songs with a bit of reggae mixed in. We should get new songs and a new album this year though, who knows what that contains, as every album so far is very different in terms of style.
"She got skillz."
Hells yeah!!
BEEN tellin ya this is the one that would be easiest to bridge the gap for you two..it was for me as well. BEEN waiting! haha
Also, i'd recommend having a lyrics page while you're wathcing/ reading it afterwards. Once you read them, its WAY easier to hear what shes saying
you guys really gotta watch them do "who is gonna be the one" live , has a clear rap influence but with growls. and some more reggae in it too
plus Tatiana rules the stage
On the 💯.. she do have skills 🤘🏼
Ohh .. and fire 🔥reaction as usual 😉
GREAT REACTIONS Y'ALL ARE GOING TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you should see the official video, it is quite the story
Tatiana was in a Russian cover band called KODRI. (cod ree) There's vids on YT.