Beautiful raw tones, thanks for reminding how great these vintage OB's sound. I makes me think we are all just kidding ourselves that anything new sounds quite that good!
@@Lagspike99 not sure.. Im prettysure it wont sound like a minimoog tho. I just dont buy behringer anymore really. I'll wait to see the ubxa and judge them from that.
Thank you for another great video showing off your awesome OBXa. My OB6 is definitely close, but nothing can 100% replicate the beautiful sound of the vintage Oberheim lush & creamy magic. One day I'll have to eventually pick one up....and will have to play "Jump" in the first 30 seconds....otherwise that would be a sin against Oberheim not to do so. LOL
Thank you for this video and especially, for allowing us to hear it dry! I swear that there are some nuances and idiosyncrasies that the digital recreations just can't capture. Maybe most people wouldn't notice, and that's fine, but for those of us who do, there is no substitute. Well done!
Can someone tell me the difference/s between the Oberheim OB-8 and Oberheim OB-Xa? Those vintage machines both look very similar, but I'm not sure about the sound difference/s. Which one is 'better'? I had an opportunity to buy the Oberheim DX drum machine that belonged to _Huey Lewis and The News,_ but I didn't need any drums at the time, and they weren't using the more sophisticated DMX, just the DX, for some (?) reason.
The difference is in the voice chips. The obxa sounds more rough and unpolished like the obx. The ob8 came out later with a more stable and polished sound. OBX = most unstable but the best sounding of them all OBXA = more stable and warm sounding OB8 = most stable clean sounding and reliable. Cheers
Super Sweet! Thanks for uploading this video. I will probably never play an OBXa in my lifetime, so I'm thankful for you to do it for me! :) It sounds great! I love the raw sound, but I also like it with effects. :) Take care, Sam.
I recently purchased and OB6R. The next generation or two after this. It has DCA's, and is hard to program- no knob per function. But.....when I heard those filters again after years of missing them, it brought tears to my eyes. Magical!
The OB-Xa V does no way sound like the real thing. There are comparison audio files on the Arturia website which are rather embarrassing. I hope U-He will release a dedicated VST OB-Xa one day like they did with the Repro(phet)-5.
@@jazzjeffjazzjeff like I said not a difference that will effect your music making ability!! Vsts are so close if your music sucks that says more about you
Beautiful and great sounding synth. I can't afford the originals but Behringer has me spending money on their clones. This one will be next on my list in a few months. I know alot of people hate on Behringer. But the fact is this, the average music buyer and listener can't tell the difference in which synth you are really using. Me personally, I prefer hardware over software. Love your videos and thanks for the inspiration.
@TheRustyPeppers I think they will come very close. The vid from last summer is not representative, in the meantime they do everything that it sounds right.
@TheRustyPeppers What do you think about the drift settings on the DM12? I find dialing them in (osc and parameter drift) can add some chaos and imperfection.
It's a crime that a person isn't able to walk into a music shop and buy one of these new at the counter. Why not?! They would be flying off the shelves!!!
@@PaulNolanMusic I can't wait! They're just waiting for the firmware to be done and then not long after that. Screw the haters, let them hate till they turn purple. Purple people make me laugh.
I feel like the old synths have something so human too them and like the sound behaves in a way that represents physical principals like weight depth imperfections
I had to watch this again and now really need to do the OBXa retrofit I've read about for my OB-8 that I bought last month. In fact, I think my OB-8 is in need of a tune-up all together.
What retrofit? Are you talking about the mod that restores the bass the 8 lost a little of compared to the Xa? I actually bought some perforated boards, and cut them to size so I could neatly assemble the parallel capacitor and resistors, rather than just tacking a capacitor and resistor on top of another resistor. I still have enough parts to make a few more sets of these.
@@100DollarHeadache Yes. I think I read about 3 or 4 things that is done to give the 8 a bit more "umph" in the bass like the Xa. I figured that since I had to get some work done on my OB-8 anyway it would be nice to have the tech do that mod.
There's a mod that can be done to the OB-8 voice card's output stages that fixes this. After that the OB-8 still won't sound 100% like an OB-Xa because of other differences (different filter topology, VCO tuning algorithms, voice output's op-amp and OTAs, etc...), but it'll approach its predecessor nicely. And you can really feel the added oomph to the low-mids. I did that to my OB-8 and I'll never look back.
This synth is incredible. I believe it this what Geddy Lee used on the Moving Pictures tour. If Oberheim/ Smith could make a modern version that sounds like this I would buy it in a sec. Unfortunately, I find the OB6 sounds half-asssed compared to this. Why can't they make a version that sounds good, like Dave Smith did with the Prophet 6? The Modal 008 seems to be the only modern analogue synth that really gets a growl
Baloran The River has the true vintage sound but limited features. I think nowdays everyone Is cutting corners on components , even analog synth makers that charge a premium. I doubt they're using the same quality as the 1980's or 1970's on every part of the designs.
The Abstrakt Instruments rack-mount VS-1 is going to be the ticket. It is actually possible that it will beat out a real OB-Xa (and I own an OB-Xa)… it's modeled after the OB-X, which is preferable to most synth folks (more discrete components on the the voice boards). It's gonna run ya $3,500- $4,000… but 40yr old OB-X units are $8K-$15K. The VS-1 should be available to purchase in October.
@@Robert44444444 I'd pay for A) an instrument that achieves the original sound, and B) comes with the reliability/ durability of modern technology and components. Actually, I think that price point would be a steal.
@@mr.wizard9785 I'm in agreement. Setting aside macro geo-political and "pandemic" issues, the VS-1 becoming available in October should make for a very exciting time indeed. if you haven't listened to the demo you must, it REALLY is early 80s Oberheim poly synth sounding. I'm optimistic about the Behringer UB-Xa… but still a bit skeptical about how well they'll nail the sound.
My condolences Sir. I had to let go of my CS60 and DX5 during some hard times. But medical bills should NEVER be a reason why musicians must sell their beloved instruments. Society needs to do better!
Same curtiss chips but 2/4 pole on obxa , hardware envs on obxa , slightly better frequency modulation options on p600 , low parameter res on obxa (several settings only of /half/full and no freely adjustable osc frequency), split on obxa
To me it's imperfection, among other things. Small but audible differences between each voice, not only oscillator tuning but filter cut-off frequency, envelope times etc. Also voice panning makes a significant contribution to the OB-Xa sound, particularly when playing chords, or unison voices. Spreads the sound (more specifically, each voice, with it's own small variations) across the stereo field. This makes a big difference in comparison to a mono polysynth where everything is dead centre.
@@andyjones760 Thank you.... I know what you mean when you say the 'imperfections!' One more question in terms oscillators, are they 3 oscillator poly synths... If not, can you give me a few examples of 3 oscillator poly synths!!! Thank you, I'm new to all of this, and am trying to learn from guys with know how!!!
@@andyjones760 your post is incredible!!! And I too am slowly realizing as I get into vintage gear... That it's the inconsistent consistency of the old gear... That modern automation just can't recreate!!! Inversely, there's certain precision things that new gear let you get specifically focused on... That the old gear just technologically can't!! The mix of the two though is ideal I'm discovering the long, hard, and expensive way!!!😂😂😂
If OBXa were a classical composer, would this be Bach or Beethoven? Something baroque, like the pipe organ; then again grandure. This is absolutely lovely, anyway.
ShreadTheWeapon thank you very much. It’s all improvised and all patches are my creations. Most are from a factory preset tweaked until I liked it. The Obxa is very simple to program.
Of course, the only part you wouldn’t have improvised was your quotation of my favorite Rush composition, “Subdivisions”. Was that a subconscious sendoff for Neal?
ShreadTheWeapon oh, yes, of course. Subdivisions was stolen. They played it with an OBX and some parts must have been a jupiter8. So sad, that the best drummer in the world died and passed away to his wife and daughter.
@@vintagesynths Maybe, we'll see. There's also a large hidden cost to giving our money to mega corporations that's definitely worth factoring in to the decision.
Soon there will be a great substitute from behringer. The OB-Xa can be a nightmare service related. I had very good luck, when the prices were quite low.
@@vintagesynths I’ll definitely look into it! I know one of the best modern equivalents I’ve seen and heard is the one Sequential made a few years back
@@vintagesynths have you heard about the new OB-X8? It seems to be about half the price a vintage Oberheim goes for on the used market and makes the same sounds and then some!
Beautiful raw tones, thanks for reminding how great these vintage OB's sound. I makes me think we are all just kidding ourselves that anything new sounds quite that good!
Thank you. I can imagine that with the new clone you can come close and a reliable substitute
I have an OB-6, and it sounds very much like this. But it stays in tune a lot better.
The synth sounds great, but it helps that this guy is an excellent player.
I'm here getting pumped for the Ubxa. It's gonna be amazing.
It's probably going to be garbage like the polyD.
@@skrie haha yep.
@@skrie is the poly d garbage?
@@embodie_breaks7089 is the poly d garbage?
@@Lagspike99 not sure.. Im prettysure it wont sound like a minimoog tho. I just dont buy behringer anymore really. I'll wait to see the ubxa and judge them from that.
Thank you, pure, clean, unprocessed synth sounds is what we need. You know, I feel I can make my dual matrix 6 setup sound really close to this
I used to have a matrix 6. I sold it because having the OBXa. You are right with some programming you can get also very warm sounds out of it
Looks like it left the factory tomorrow. Pristine!!!!!
The objectively correct way to demo an instrument
Thanks very much
Thank you for another great video showing off your awesome OBXa. My OB6 is definitely close, but nothing can 100% replicate the beautiful sound of the vintage Oberheim lush & creamy magic. One day I'll have to eventually pick one up....and will have to play "Jump" in the first 30 seconds....otherwise that would be a sin against Oberheim not to do so. LOL
RIP Eddie
You win just for the captions in the beginning alone. It's a godsend to know that there is no processing in your demos!! lol. great work!
Christopher Johnson Walton thank you
something unique about the old OB's. gorgeous
Thank you for this video and especially, for allowing us to hear it dry! I swear that there are some nuances and idiosyncrasies that the digital recreations just can't capture. Maybe most people wouldn't notice, and that's fine, but for those of us who do, there is no substitute. Well done!
Beautiful sounds and playing
Thanks a lot
What a marvelous straight strong sound!
I got goosebumps at 15:46. Awesome patch!
I keep coming back to this video. Between Behringer's UBXA and whatever Sequential is cooking up, it's a good time to be a Oberheim fan.
I can't wait for the UB-Xa. I can't wait.
the behringer lada
Can someone tell me the difference/s between the Oberheim OB-8 and Oberheim OB-Xa? Those vintage machines both look very similar, but I'm not sure about the sound difference/s. Which one is 'better'? I had an opportunity to buy the Oberheim DX drum machine that belonged to _Huey Lewis and The News,_ but I didn't need any drums at the time, and they weren't using the more sophisticated DMX, just the DX, for some (?) reason.
The difference is in the voice chips. The obxa sounds more rough and unpolished like the obx. The ob8 came out later with a more stable and polished sound.
OBX = most unstable but the best sounding of them all
OBXA = more stable and warm sounding
OB8 = most stable clean sounding and reliable.
Cheers
Super Sweet! Thanks for uploading this video. I will probably never play an OBXa in my lifetime, so I'm thankful for you to do it for me! :) It sounds great! I love the raw sound, but I also like it with effects. :) Take care, Sam.
Machiwoomiapoo thanks for your kind words! You are a Roland guy! But maybe once you play an Oberheim!
3:55 what a sweet sound!!
13:00 is absolute magic. Hope the Ubxa sounds this good
Thank you very much
Hear for yourself: ruclips.net/video/xitEIzAsI7o/видео.html
I recently purchased and OB6R. The next generation or two after this. It has DCA's, and is hard to program- no knob per function. But.....when I heard those filters again after years of missing them, it brought tears to my eyes. Magical!
Thanks for posting raw!
This sounds better than the UB -XA. I hope in person the UB -Xa sounds better.
really hope the UB XA sounds this good!
Stunning! I can only afford tha Arturia version, which is actually wonderful!
Sound exactly the same.. Not a difference that will stop you from making great sounding music
The OB-Xa V does no way sound like the real thing. There are comparison audio files on the Arturia website which are rather embarrassing. I hope U-He will release a dedicated VST OB-Xa one day like they did with the Repro(phet)-5.
@@NyakzOTSD That is in no way true!
@@jazzjeffjazzjeff like I said not a difference that will effect your music making ability!! Vsts are so close if your music sucks that says more about you
@@NyakzOTSD I am simply stating a fact! If you love the VST, good for you!
Beautiful and great sounding synth. I can't afford the originals but Behringer has me spending money on their clones. This one will be next on my list in a few months. I know alot of people hate on Behringer. But the fact is this, the average music buyer and listener can't tell the difference in which synth you are really using. Me personally, I prefer hardware over software. Love your videos and thanks for the inspiration.
Thank you very much. I am sure that Behringer will do a great job with the clone.
@TheRustyPeppers I think they will come very close. The vid from last summer is not representative, in the meantime they do everything that it sounds right.
@TheRustyPeppers
What do you think about the drift settings on the DM12? I find dialing them in (osc and parameter drift) can add some chaos and imperfection.
Please oberheim PLEASE PLEASE reissue this magical machine again!!!! Exactly with drift
obx8 now for 5k you can buy it soon
I really hope the behringer Ubxa will be close to this and then it is going to be epic clone to have!
It's a crime that a person isn't able to walk into a music shop and buy one of these new at the counter. Why not?! They would be flying off the shelves!!!
Behringer ub-xa soon...
Paul Nolan
NO
@@PaulNolanMusic I can't wait! They're just waiting for the firmware to be done and then not long after that. Screw the haters, let them hate till they turn purple. Purple people make me laugh.
I don't get the hate. I own a Deepmind 12 and Crave and they both sound great. The oscillator on the Crave sounds amazing.
OB-6 is the modern equivalent. Not identical, but very similar.
I'm enjoying this video so much 💟
Power of analog😊
Wonderful sounds...so good 💟🔥💟
Pure Sonic Bliss 💟
Hi, do you have a video where you showcase the factory presets? Thank you.
Not online, I signed a NDA so I will do it only with allowance.
I feel like the old synths have something so human too them and like the sound behaves in a way that represents physical principals like weight depth imperfections
Tom, you have to resurrect this beast!
Yup.. component for component. Maybe in slightly more compact form
I think it's in the works.
tom did obx8 5k us
@@jacobbrown1690 wooooooooooooooow Thanks for the warning. I've seen it: Obx + ob8 + obxa. But 6k here in Europe :( will remain a dream
Save money, I did!!! 😉😎☔️
I had to watch this again and now really need to do the OBXa retrofit I've read about for my OB-8 that I bought last month. In fact, I think my OB-8 is in need of a tune-up all together.
What retrofit? Are you talking about the mod that restores the bass the 8 lost a little of compared to the Xa? I actually bought some perforated boards, and cut them to size so I could neatly assemble the parallel capacitor and resistors, rather than just tacking a capacitor and resistor on top of another resistor. I still have enough parts to make a few more sets of these.
@@100DollarHeadache Yes. I think I read about 3 or 4 things that is done to give the 8 a bit more "umph" in the bass like the Xa. I figured that since I had to get some work done on my OB-8 anyway it would be nice to have the tech do that mod.
It has a weight in the low mids that my OB8 doesn't have, and it doesn't seem you can add it with EQ either. The OB8 is its kid nephew.
There's a mod that can be done to the OB-8 voice card's output stages that fixes this. After that the OB-8 still won't sound 100% like an OB-Xa because of other differences (different filter topology, VCO tuning algorithms, voice output's op-amp and OTAs, etc...), but it'll approach its predecessor nicely. And you can really feel the added oomph to the low-mids. I did that to my OB-8 and I'll never look back.
this is sounding very similar to the Korg Prologue to me , which is surprising.
This synth is incredible. I believe it this what Geddy Lee used on the Moving Pictures tour. If Oberheim/ Smith could make a modern version that sounds like this I would buy it in a sec. Unfortunately, I find the OB6 sounds half-asssed compared to this. Why can't they make a version that sounds good, like Dave Smith did with the Prophet 6? The Modal 008 seems to be the only modern analogue synth that really gets a growl
Baloran The River has the true vintage sound but limited features. I think nowdays everyone Is cutting corners on components , even analog synth makers that charge
a premium. I doubt they're using the same quality as the 1980's or 1970's on every part of the designs.
The Abstrakt Instruments rack-mount VS-1 is going to be the ticket. It is actually possible that it will beat out a real OB-Xa (and I own an OB-Xa)… it's modeled after the OB-X, which is preferable to most synth folks (more discrete components on the the voice boards). It's gonna run ya $3,500- $4,000… but 40yr old OB-X units are $8K-$15K. The VS-1 should be available to purchase in October.
@@fawkkyutuu8851 - Baloran's The River sounds fantastic… probably the best analog poly of the modern age.
@@Robert44444444 I'd pay for A) an instrument that achieves the original sound, and B) comes with the reliability/ durability of modern technology and components. Actually, I think that price point would be a steal.
@@mr.wizard9785 I'm in agreement. Setting aside macro geo-political and "pandemic" issues, the VS-1 becoming available in October should make for a very exciting time indeed. if you haven't listened to the demo you must, it REALLY is early 80s Oberheim poly synth sounding. I'm optimistic about the Behringer UB-Xa… but still a bit skeptical about how well they'll nail the sound.
worst day of my life was selling my OBXa, OB-8, DMX and DSX to pay medical bills.
That is very sad. Hopefully you are well. Bless you!
My condolences Sir. I had to let go of my CS60 and DX5 during some hard times. But medical bills should NEVER be a reason why musicians must sell their beloved instruments. Society needs to do better!
@@cobycranman9815 Amen!
Sheeit, if I was in that position, I might have just chosen death. Lol bury me with my Oberheim!
Can't happen to you in Canada or Europe! You need the spirit of 1789.
what would be a comparison with prophet 600?
Same curtiss chips but 2/4 pole on obxa , hardware envs on obxa , slightly better frequency modulation options on p600 , low parameter res on obxa (several settings only of /half/full and no freely adjustable osc frequency), split on obxa
Question... What made Oberheims sound sooooo thick in comparison to modern equivalents (prologues, prophets, obs, etc...)
To me it's imperfection, among other things. Small but audible differences between each voice, not only oscillator tuning but filter cut-off frequency, envelope times etc. Also voice panning makes a significant contribution to the OB-Xa sound, particularly when playing chords, or unison voices. Spreads the sound (more specifically, each voice, with it's own small variations) across the stereo field. This makes a big difference in comparison to a mono polysynth where everything is dead centre.
@@andyjones760 Thank you.... I know what you mean when you say the 'imperfections!' One more question in terms oscillators, are they 3 oscillator poly synths... If not, can you give me a few examples of 3 oscillator poly synths!!! Thank you, I'm new to all of this, and am trying to learn from guys with know how!!!
@@andyjones760 your post is incredible!!! And I too am slowly realizing as I get into vintage gear... That it's the inconsistent consistency of the old gear... That modern automation just can't recreate!!! Inversely, there's certain precision things that new gear let you get specifically focused on... That the old gear just technologically can't!! The mix of the two though is ideal I'm discovering the long, hard, and expensive way!!!😂😂😂
hi great sounds do you sell your patches?
Thank you. Unfortunately not. I even haven’t them saved as wav.
4:58 that sounds a little like the discord incoming call music lol
Now I want these presets :o would you be able to make them for the Arturia OB XA V ? I would literally pay for presets like that sir!
If OBXa were a classical composer, would this be Bach or Beethoven? Something baroque, like the pipe organ; then again grandure. This is absolutely lovely, anyway.
❤❤❤@3:00
That's nice.. but can you play 'Jump' on it? :)
I really hope you are joking 😂
Sounds like you were using reverb at the start.
No, no reverb or other fx used in this demo.
Is this the older original synth or is it the newer model?
Old one
@@vintagesynths ok thanks
the hight frequencies are way less annoying then digital synths
I hope you're beta-testing the UBXa at the moment :)
Behringer ub xa
9:54! 😺
Superb synth... Doubtful if Behringer will nail it.
Doubtful. But Hopeful.
14:58 tho
Awesomeness! How I craved one of these in my early 20s!
Did you program all 50 tones? Also, did you compose any of it, or is it all improvised?
ShreadTheWeapon thank you very much. It’s all improvised and all patches are my creations. Most are from a factory preset tweaked until I liked it. The Obxa is very simple to program.
So the legend says, synthlegends. Thumbs up!
ShreadTheWeapon thanks
Of course, the only part you wouldn’t have improvised was your quotation of my favorite Rush composition, “Subdivisions”. Was that a subconscious sendoff for Neal?
ShreadTheWeapon oh, yes, of course. Subdivisions was stolen. They played it with an OBX and some parts must have been a jupiter8. So sad, that the best drummer in the world died and passed away to his wife and daughter.
Thanks for no crappy FX’s as in others’ demos.
Sounds way better than all the new Ubxa demos. Just put blue lines on a synth and people start crapping themselves like fools.
I think the UB-Xa will sound great. But the classic is unbeatable for nostalgia
@@vintagesynths Maybe, we'll see. There's also a large hidden cost to giving our money to mega corporations that's definitely worth factoring in to the decision.
I want one of these so bad, you don’t even know! I’d deadass sell my left kidney for one of these
Soon there will be a great substitute from behringer. The OB-Xa can be a nightmare service related. I had very good luck, when the prices were quite low.
@@vintagesynths I’ll definitely look into it! I know one of the best modern equivalents I’ve seen and heard is the one Sequential made a few years back
@@vintagesynths have you heard about the new OB-X8? It seems to be about half the price a vintage Oberheim goes for on the used market and makes the same sounds and then some!
0.55 very Roland...
fuckin shits me Tom Oberheim wont fart one of these out
Hurry up Behringer .......
Not worried about the commenters but I reckon the Access Virus TI/2 can produce most of the OBxa sounds pretty convincingly.
ha ha - it sounds painful out of tune - the synth should be serviced and calibrated before making such a video :-)