My UK Legal EDC 2024
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The confusion with UK knife laws is that knives aren't illegal like most people think... what makes a knife illegal is it's intended use, which is why it's legal to carry kitchen knives home from a store. It's all about common sense in how it's stored and used. For example... if you have a 6" knife in your pocket when walking around for self defence then it's illegal because the intended use for that knife is a weapon but if you carry an 8" bushcraft knife in a backpack to use in a campsite then that's perfectly legal because a knife is simply a tool nothing more. The law is you cannot carry more than a 3" blade on your person when in a public area unless you have a good enough reason for doing so, which basically means you can carry a knife over 3" if you have a good reason to. so it's just common sense
This is a very smart comment and this is something I have though of too but then it's down to the cop that stops you to determine whether your reason is good or not regardless of you seeing it as good.
What is a good reason?
- It's for work.
- It's a tool and I want to carry it.
- I'm a knife reviewer to I need to use them to be able to review them (again for work)
It's all stupid.
@@TedHowellsthat's the problem, if it's a fixed blade over 3" then it's down to a court to decide.
In my military sling pack there is a..
Lansky Madrock "£25" for the meanest looking UK legal workhorse of a knife"
Lansky Tactical sharpening rod £17
Puma Tec multi tool £23
A generic mini med kit.
A pack away waterproof cycling jacket.
Mini wiipes
And a Hyasia tungsten Tactical Pen LED light in my pocket £15.
All are tried and tested.
And none of them will break your bank.
Stay safe brothers and sisters.
But It's ugly as sin and the curved blade is shit for a lot of cutting tasks needed.
The Real Steel Luna is also a great, UK legal knife with a good pocket clip
I’ll check it out! 🙌🏼
Knife rotates between Bestechman Mini Dundee, Twisted Assisted Junzi, Kizer Sheepdog mini, Spyderco UKPK HH edition or Civivi Foldis. Usually two of them tbh.
Knipex Cobra XS,
Olight Arkfeld Pro in orange,
Custom Victorinox Compact with orange G10 scales,
711L EDC Ratchet with 1/4” extension + Wera Bits
Brass Fisher Spacepen Bullet
Field Notes note book and a few other bits 😂
EDIT:
Kizer Vagnino is a slip joint that has the strongest backspring I’ve found. I think it would actually be difficult for it to close on me.
Real Steel Luna, perfect little knife. Again, can’t see it ever closing on me-I’ve abused it too.
HH CRKT Pilar-the big finger choil means it would never close.
(All of the above IIRC are or were less than that piddly little TJB thing too)
W-Wallet- Otacle C1(£11)
H-Horology-Casio F-91W(£12)
I-Ignition-Bic Lighter(£1.50)
P-Pen-Bic 4-in-1(£3)
K-Knife-Victorinox Waiter (£19 max)
I-Illumination-i3e eos (comes free with Otacle C1)
T-Tool (combination of Otacle C1 and Waiter). Less than £50 with money left over for Vic Waiter add-ons and any other little things you might need.
I carry my Scottish Sgian Dubh when i wear my kilt. But I also have a highlander kingfisher lock knife and a multi tooled pocket knife which the pliers is good for jewellery
Maybe wearing a kilt is the key to carrying a decent knife in the UK lol!
I disagree with you about slip joints. I actually find slip joints to be more dangerous. The reason being, when they do move, they move on their own - they fire out suddenly with a spring force, as if with a mind of their own. I've had accidents due to this. I find double-detents and friction-folders much safer because they move only under my own control.
I've been going through a similar journey, obsessed with trying to find the perfect UK-legal EDC. For me, it needs to have either a thumb hole or flipper tab for proper one-handed opening - nail nicks and thumb studs are both awful. Double detent is preferred. MUST have some way to let me resist closure of the blade: 1. a front finger choil (with smoothed, not sharp corner), 2. a flipper tab, that acts as a finger guard, or 3. an extended tang that I can hold with my thumb/palm. I prefer the front finger choil out of these three options, as that also lets me close the knife easily, by pressing on the back of the blade with my thumb while holding it on the other side with my index finger.
I also find half-stops like shown here with the James Brand knife to be a bit useless... At that position, they could already cause injury. If it's a slip joint knife, then I much prefer it to have a quarter-stop instead.
What's your current UK legal EDC? I think this is a pretty good one. It's a mission to have a good one but it CAN be done!
My current UK setup:
Acebeam Pokelit AA flashlight (half lumen, medium and high output options, plus memory function for most recent setting)
Shire Supply Co. custom wallet (with elastic along bottom edge to house my brass Fisher Space pen)
Shire Supply Co. belt loop key clip
Victorinox Classic in black (stored in 5th pocket of jeans)
Seiko 5 Sport dive-watch
Hurrah Lipbalm
iPhone 13 Mini
Field Notes mini notebook
Mighty Hanks ‘Positive Vibes’ hank
I don’t generally EDC a large knife but often have my Vertx Readypack which usually has either a SOG PowerPint or Leatherman Skeletool kit with it.
Anyway, great video and nice to see an update of your load out.
I’d love this James Brand knife if the pocket clip was reversible and they did the Coyote with a straight blade. I like the idea of having some large scissors too. Again, I have a SAK Super Tinker but alas, no pocket clip!
Keep the great content coming!
If you’re after something like the Ellis check out Whitby knives. Same design, not overpriced and, iirc, a few years older than TJB “design”.
@@nathski22 thanks mate! I do actually have a small Whitby slip joint I was carrying for a while but no clip so it did my head in in my pocket much like a SAK. Do Whitby have a pocket clip model that’s uk legal and similar to this?
That's a solid carry! I've been looking into Acebeam flashlights recently so I'll have to try one out soon.
With the TJB ellis, I actually think that it works better as a left hand carry if that's what you wanted from the reversible clip. The way it is on the knife and how it comes out of the pocket for 2 hand opening I genuinely find better in the left pocket.
Glad you like the video!
@@TedHowells yeah since getting the Acebeam my flashlight rotation has been non-existent. For the price of an i3T EOS and a slightly larger size you get SO much more out of it! I’ts been a permanent carry for almost two years for me. That’s good to know re the knife as I do left-pocket carry. Thanks for the pointer! Looking forward to the next videos.
I just happened upon your channel just now this morning, decent EDC video and advice. Subscribed 👍🏻
Appreciate you mate! Hope you enjoy the rest of my content 🙌🏼
I either carry a CRKT Dualy or Symmetry. Unless I'm at work then I have a leather man on my belt.
Heard a lot about the crkt. Might check it out
May I ask how you are using your knives that they close on you? I am used to Victorinox and have yet to get hurt by my knife closing on my fingers.
I’ve always wondered this. People always argue about the “safety” but then never demonstrate how a non-locking knife can fold back. I’ve actually tried to fold my Victorinox knives back on myself and I can’t see how it’d happen.
I guess it depends on the angle you're working with. A very long time ago, like 25 years, I was trying to remove the rubber coating on a panel that was underneath a counter, because behind it was wiring that I needed to get access too. I was using a folding knife that was my EDC at the time. I caught it at the wrong angle and it folded into my thumb slicing straight into the top of my thumb and about 1/3 of the way through my thumbnail. It was a shock, but it didn't hurt that much, I just wrapped it in toilet roll and carried on but after that I switched to a locking knife for my EDC, until they were banned. I carry a locking Stanley knife on me now because it's more useful for what I do and the cops won't give me too much trouble about it if they stopped me. We just got a new Labour government though and I've heard that they're coming after anything sharp, so my EDC is probably going to be relegated to a spoon in the near future!
This saved me trying to explain it haha but yes it is more when you are doing things at an angle to is slightly off and one little slip will make it bite lol! Yeah I'm not happy about the new government. Doesn't matter what they pass though, wont stop the idiots taking their parents kitchen knives to hurt each other
@@TedHowells What the UK governments never seem to appreciate is that every time they ban something they create a brand new criminal enterprise, it only serves to impair law abiding people and actually funds crime. If this new government goes ahead and makes fixed blade knives, swords and machetes completely illegal to buy or sell there 's nothing stopping anyone from popping to Homebase, picking up a strip of high carbon steel, cutting it into 5 pieces, shaping, sharpening and heat treating them, popping some rubber tape on them for a handle, you now have 5 knives you can sell to criminals that are more or less untraceable because literally anyone with a hacksaw. a grinder, half a clue and some propane can make them, someone with more tools than that can make them to a really high standard. The notion that the law can be used to impede criminals; a branch of society who make a life and career out of breaking the law is beyond stupid! But, we know they will do it anyway, because that's what they've always done 🤷♂.
All knives are legal to carry if camping etc a suitable knife can be carried for its purpose
People always forget about the tweezers in a gerber dime 🤷♂️
Yeah I always forget until I need them! I remembered after I filmed this video that it has them 🙃
@TedHowells I love my dime, it lives in my maxpedition mini
There are at least 2 options for clipping SAKs: SwissQlip Swiss Army Knife Pocket Clip and any suspension clip or P7 type dangler clip, as well as a number of scales with pocket clip
I wouldn't want a dangler clip though to be honest but I would want to find the perfect clip for one so its not too bulky as some seem massive
I threw out my legal carry years ago, as long as you’ve not got reason to be pulled up on it and you’re not reckless you shouldn’t have to worry. I carry a both a locking multitool and utility blade, I’ve been pulled and searched (for other reasons) and the officer didn’t even question it
I guess it depends on who you are and what cop pulls you over 🤔
@@TedHowells completely agree, I’m in my mid twenties so I for sure thought that was it, but manners and respect go a long way
@NorfTec exactly the same boat as me dude
Hi ,new subscriber here
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My edc knives are
A) sak ranger
B) spyderco ukpk.
A " standard human being "
Hacks any intruder to pieces using reasonable force if the intruder enters their home .
The gerber dime is obviously shite ...
My sak ranger is accompanied by my knipex mini needlenose combination pliers .
My lighter is a bic lighter wrapped in waxed jute and gorilla tape.
My wallet is the tasmanian Tiger rfid , edc , wallet ...
My pen is the laix stainless steel b009 tactical pen..... 10 quid....
These ' hanks '
Are truly crap .
Get a shemagh.
Ordinary key rings suffice .
My watch is the cwc rn auto mk2.
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I hope you liked my comment .
Swap out the gerber dime for a nextool mini flagship it’s a level above
Looks sick! I just ordered one to try it out 🫡
I got as far as you saying to ignore Black Belt Barry and then I immediately subscribed
Hahahaha love to hear it! Welcome dude!
Bro, you've gone from the Civivi Foldis detent knife (£80) to the even more expensive James BLAND slipjoint (£93) , when you can get the far superior and safer Spyderco UKPK, Urban, or Squeak for the same money. If you really want to splash out on an exceptional knife the Spyderco Lil"Native is great. A review is one thing, but your choice of personal carry knives sucks. Even the tiny Twisted Assited Tulip (£60) is far safer in the hand as it can't close on you. I have all five of those knives but my most regular EDC is the £35 Black Fox Bean Gen 2, which despite being a detent knife still can't close on you if you know how to use it. It's small, simple, strong, safe, discreet, and £35! Not super slicey, but stout and reliable.
This is a super helpful comment!! I'm only really getting to grips with uk legal stuff properly still as the majority of my collection are locking. I took a look at a few of them and ordered the Black Fox so I'm stoked to try that out.
You can always move over here to the US.
I want nothing more than to
Jack Wolf pioneer. Yep love the bastion pens unfortunately some cockwomble decided to releave me of mine this week Another on route 🙄😊 and a very good friend gifted me the carbon fibre one too 👍❤️
I want to get my hands on a Jack Wolf knife! Ooooo that sounds like a nice one! What a goof friend!
You are unlucky!! Because you live in UK ...bro I'm from Iraq what AM I??😂😂😂
Yeah that’s definitely worse but the uk still sucks 😂
What SHT knifes.
what sht spelling
@@TedHowells 😆😁
A flat head is not a Phillips.
Obviously
@@TedHowells And yet you call it one?
Probably an accident
First World problem
Absolutely. They don’t have dumb laws like here in 3rd world countries
you life is about to get worse now labour is in. PS if you’re unlucky to live in the UK, then leave?
It’s harder to leave than you think