Codex* bumped Genuine Risk in the Preakness, leaving it potentially in doubt as to whether or not he would have beaten her had that not happened, and she proceeded to beat him in the Belmont, so I don't see how you can claim with absolute certainty that he was much superior to her. He was talented, but so was she.
and Cordero said, "I knew if I hit the "bitch" she would slow, hang back, can't remember exact quote, but it's another video, if it's still here. The woman who approached Cordero her name used here is or was Genuine Risk2 I think. and BTW jesusisnotallright, GR wld've won if not bumped, Cordero drifted out fm the rail, on the rail, in the lead, no ground to catch up. And what does he do, he saw GR coming up on outside, just the way she won the KD. AND she came up between 2 lead horses in Belmont in the slop and came in SECOND. She didn't win, but point she is she was right up front. AND Codex came in 8th in Belmont. Jack Whitaker said after race, the REAL story of this year's Triple Crown is GR, the only filly ever to run in and PLACE in ALL 3 TC races.
bon1042 While I personally do think Cordero deliberately interfered with Genuine Risk in the Preakness and that Codex should have been disqualified, we can't really take the unverified claim of a random RUclipsr (and one with a name that implies bias) as absolute proof of Cordero's guilt. They could be lying, trolling, mistaken etc. That said, I do personally think Cordero is an extremely dirty rider, and he's been reported to be a bully as well, intimidating or taunting rival jockeys before races in an attempt to make them ride poorly.
I believe her. I understand, but your thinking drives me to frustration, to love GR and use her name +2 doesn't mean she didn't talk to Cordero and ask him about this. I can't imagine her making up" I knew if I hit the "bitch" etc. It is so outrageous and such a portrayal of his weak macho ego (super so with Latino and Italian men) for him to utter that word, demonstrates shattering of his ego when a filly won the KD and then came up on the outside just like she did in KD to possibly pull it off again was too much for him. He so clearly drifted way out fm the rail, fm being first, on the rail with no ground to make up, best place to be and then drift way out. Jockey Vasquez, the Firestones filed complaint. Vasquez also said he hit her with his whip she had a welt over her left eye. Listen to Arcaro and Cosell here on video. Arcaro thought he shld be disqualified. What more do you want??? Every person on YTube doesn't have to be a generalized random with bias, a liar, a troll, mistaken. Was she "mistaken" when she asked him and he responded the way he did. I'm a mature, honest person who never had much patience with denial, close mindedness etc. I understand what you say and it is true, but to almost dismiss GR2's story because it's on YTube and thus can't be the truth is so frustrating.
I met Genuine Risk about 7 years ago (several years before she died) in Loudoun County, she was magnificent. Obviously on her last legs, but she still had an aura about her, and that look in her eye that said, yea, that was me back in 1980. I fell in love with her.
THANK YOU for posting this great video on Derby day. I was privileged enough to be there the day Genny took home the roses... not only an amazing filly but an amazing racehorse...one of the best
I picked Genuine Risk to win, probably mostly sentimental. But it sure was a thrill to see her deliver! What most people don't realize is that fillies against colts usually are successful by running on the lead early, then try to hold off the males (remember Winning Colors). But Genuine Risk (and Zenyatta) ran from behind. She took it to the field the hard way. Taking the bumps, running wider and losing ground, then finally grinding through with guts and heart to go past everyone. Class act all the way, Genuine Risk!!!
God bless Eddie Arcaro (2:08) (February 19, 1916 - November 14, 1997) He was born in Cincinatti, Ohio. His parents, Pasquale and Josephine were two italian immigrants.
The fact that she kept on running, after the devastating move she made on the turn, is one of the best Derby performances ever. She looked like Arazi running by those poor colts/
Love the refreshingly honest perspective from Arcaro, a man who could speak with authority on the subject of the Derby. He said Plugged Nickel and Rockhill Native didn't want 10 furlongs and he was right.
Thanks so much for posting these, lot's of memories for me. The first Derby I attended was 1976, I only missed three between 1976 - 2009. My friends finally hit the wall lol.
The closest a filly came to winning the Triple Crown. A 1st in the Derby, 2nd in the Preakness (I was 11 during the 1980 spring racing and I was mad!) and 2nd in the Belmont. I fell in love with 43 years ago today because she proved girls could do anything! I miss her. Run free, Genny!!
I believe that Genuine Risk is the closest thing we've had to a female Secretariat. She was, like he was, the very definition of magnificent. Other fillies (like the much-praised Ruffian) may have been superior in one or two areas (e.g. sheer speed) but I cannot think of another filly that is/was as versatile as Genuine Risk. She was capable of just about everything. She could run on fast tracks (e.g. her Derby and Preakness performances), on sloppy tracks (e.g. her Belmont performance), at short(ish) distances (e.g. a mile and an eighth, like here), at longer distances (e.g. the mile and a half Belmont), she was durable (she had no health conditions, fractures or injuries throughout her entire life, other than one wounded leg from a freak accident that could have happened to any horse), she had immense endurance, she was brave (determinedly kept running even when the much larger Codex collided with her in the Preakness) and she had great speed (not exceptional, but she was faster than many top colts and fillies). Add that all up and we have quite possibly the greatest female racehorse of all time. Ruffian? Wasn't durable and never won against colts. Rachel Alexandra? Had distance limitations (she'd have never managed the Belmont, for example). Zenyatta? Had issues with certain types of tracks. They (and many other fillies that I've not mentioned) may have been superior to Genuine Risk in one or two areas (Ruffian and Rachel Alexandra were both front-running speed-horses and Zenyatta, being a giant, has an immense stride that enabled her to cover huge amounts of ground very quickly), but in terms of overall strengths I think that Genuine Risk was above them all.
Susan Ouimette Yes, she did. She had fertility problems throughout her whole life unfortunately, and produced only two living foals. Neither of them ever raced. It's a shame, not only because she was a great racehorse but also because her owners were very ambitious and had great plans for her. They had planned to send her to some of the best stallions, first to Secretariat and then second to Nijinsky II (who won the English Triple Crown), and then probably onto other popular sires, but it didn't work out because of her constant failures to conceive and miscarriages.
Ruffian is the greatest of all time instead of best female. She didn't need to beat a colt since she beat Secretariat and Man O' Wars record and was quoted by Secretariat's trainer himself that she was better. By the way she never lost at all. She set records in all her starts. She won the filly triple crown. She ran on serious injuries and still won against good horses like Hot N Nasty! Unlike this filly Ruffian had real competition. These horses are weak and she lost more then once as well and never did beat good horses or set records either. Ruffian would kill her anyway. Ruffian destroyed her times in a mile and Ruffian only ran once going a mile and it was the Acorn that she won by 13 and half lengths. Then again Ruffian ran once going 1 1/8 and won by 13 lengths as well and took that record and Genuine Risk can't get even a second to it and she ran that distance a few times as well. Going 7 furlongs as well Ruffian ran it once and her time is still faster by a lot and lets see Genuine Risk lost the Belmont Stakes and the horse who won that time is a good 3 seconds from Ruffians and Ruffian was even held back. And even in the Match race Jacinto picked Ruffian over a Kentucky Derby winner! She even pulled away before she broke down to be half a length in front. On top of it Ruffians records all stand to this day but one. You should research a lot before saying things that is why you really look like a idiot now for saying Ruffian isn't even good! On top of it Ruffian led every race by every pole and there was never a horse in front of her and if you seen her races when a horse comes to try and get near her she pulls away more and on top of it Ruffian won every race with ease and never been pushed or whipped other then once which she was injured and ran against a great horse which is Hot n Nasty! OH LOL this is gonna make you look way bad now Genuine Risk jockey is also Ruffians! I met him and even have seen the video of him in a interview of who is the best he rode and seen and it's RUFFIAN. Ruffian won 5 graded 1 stakes and Genuine Risk only won two! Genuine Risk lost to even females that weren't even good. This is a joke! Don't get me started on Rachel Alexandra or Personal Ensign!
*+johnofohu123* You could have written glowingly about Ruffian, and truly honored her memory, by lauding her while still respecting others. You instead took the lowest possible of roads, and came across as a preening, childish braggart whom her connections would no doubt be embarrassed to have as a fan. It's cheap, and it's tacky, and you've done her a disservice. What a sad lack of sportsmanship this displays.
johnofohu123 The first and only time Ruffian raced against a colt, she crumbled and died. At least Genuine Risk could hold her own against colts. If that's brutal to say, tough. I don't appreciate being referred to as an "idiot" when all I have done is state an opinion without insulting anyone. I stated that Genuine Risk was perhaps the greatest OVERALL female horse in my opinion. She was NOT the fastest, but she had a very well-balanced mix of qualities. She was durable (unlike Ruffian), she was reasonably fast (not extremely, but she was decent), she had a lot of stamina (unlike Rachel Alexandra), she could handle a variety of tracks and distances (be it dirt or turf, or 1 mile on a fast track or 1 1/2 miles on a sloppy one), and she had courage (many fillies would have been intimidated by a much larger colt like Codex running into them, but Genuine Risk kept on running without hesitation). In short, she had talent in every area, whereas most other top fillies only did in one (e.g. speed).
going to the post she was really strutting, looking lovely. "There will be a large price on her, but there really is NO price on her. There is absolutely No chance that this filly wld ever be sold..." "They love her..." That's nice. That Preakness..... then just think, in slop she came up right between 2 colts leading in the Belmont and came in second, placing in all 3 TC races. As Jack Whittaker said after the Belmont, "but the real story of this year's TC race is Genuine Risk."
ABSOLUTELY!!! CANNOT add much 2 that & she would've WON the Preakness also, Don't get me started on that!!! She came in 2nd in Belmont as well !!!! Only mistake in this Broadcast, is when Cosell sd her time of (2:02)Flat was not fantastic, WRONG!!! when a Filly beats the Colts in her very FIRST time of running a mile & a quarter(1 1/4) EVER in her life , that's an excellent winning time!!! in 1988 when Winning Colors won her time: (2:02 1/5)....
AND don't forget that Jacinto Vasquez , Genuine Risk's Jockey , is an outstanding Jockey on top of FILLIES !!!! in case people forgot (don't know) , Jacinto was not only the Jockey for , argueably, GREATEST FILLY EVER --- RUFFIAN --- in 74 & 75[whe she was a 3 year old] ...he was also the Jockey for Foolish Pleasure (Kentucky Derby Winner) - Colt -- in 1975 & for their Match Race , he CHOSE to be on RUFFIAN !!!!!! that tells anyone all they need 2 know !!!! Bam scoreboard !!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY correct and don't forget Genuine Risk AND Affirmed [78' Triple Crown Winner] both had the same Sire[Father] Exclusive Native !!! and Exclusive Native's Sire Raise A Native was the Father of Mr Prospector who was an INCREDIBLE Sire of Sire's as we all know !!!!
My best friend and I were screaming so loudly at the end of this race, two of my macho neighbors broke down my door to "save" us! (I refused to let them pay the locksmith.) When we shrieked again at GR's clearly bring fouled - IMO - in the Preakness, they again ran over, but only knocked and yelled that time.
Heh, maybe you'd be better off screaming words (e.g. "Yeah!") as opposed to just flat-out screaming. If you scream a word people might realize you're watching/listening to a sporting event (males frequently scream words for the same reason). If you just scream however people might think you're being murdered instead.
*+VialliForever* Well, my friend *was* screaming "Run you b*tch, run!" and I was screaming "Go, GOOO!" but this was probably interpreted as being commands directed at each other to flee from someone! Maybe another time, "Yeah!" *would* be the way to go! Heat of the moment. . . .
Susan Ouimette I can't say I blame you. Genuine Risk was truly great in this performance, especially considering that Rumbo was really flying towards the end. I'd have really loved it if she'd won the TC. I hope a filly manages it one day, or at least wins more than one of the TC races. Rachel Alexandra could have possibly won the Derby as well as the Preakness if she'd been entered for it, but she'd have never managed the Belmont. Genuine Risk was one of very few fillies with the endurance, speed and durability to have a chance at all three.
*+VialliForever* Given the new eligibility requirements for entering the Kentucky Derby, we're likely to see even fewer fillies run in it - *very* likely, several columnists have opined. If Zenyatta hadn't been as slow to mature as she was, who knows? Mike Smith said she still had a gear to spare in the '09 Breeder's Cup; maybe given a mile and a half, she would have shown us something special. I'm "glad," in a sense, that Genuine Risk was beaten fairly in the Belmont, as, if she'd won that race, her quite likely having been denied the Preakness -hence the Triple Crown - per what I saw as an obvious foul would have been a much more bitter pill to swallow.
Susan Ouimette I strongly disagree with the alterations made towards eligibility for the Derby. The old system functioned for many years, it should have just been left how it was. But if they ARE going to change it, then I think they should make similar changes to the Kentucky Oaks, and have a 'points system' put into place for that race too. Then make it so that any race that gives points towards the Kentucky Derby also gives points towards the Kentucky Oaks. That way any filly who competes in the unisex races and does well will gain points towards BOTH the Derby and the Oaks. That way, she will have the option of going into either the Oaks or the Derby, depending on which her owners feel is best suited for her. That will prevent fillies from being forced to choose between the Oaks and the Derby, and allow their owners to be under less pressure, as if they decide at the last moment that they don't want to send their filly to the Derby, then she will have still gained points to allow her to enter the Oaks instead.
I swear this a true story. In May 1980, I was a 9 yr old girl living in the So. CA desert...out in the sticks...we only got 2 channels on the tv..36 & 42..and after Saturday morning cartoons, there usually wasn't crap on the tv, except ABC's Wide World of Sports...which, unless there wasn't something I was really interested in, like figure skating, or something like that, I wouldn't bother watching...but, this particular Saturday morning, it was HOT outside...damn hot! (as it can be in the desert...summer starts early...like in March!), so I wanted to stay inside...and suffer along with whatever Wide World of Sports was gonna show...which, was....ugh...boring Kentucky Derby! I didn't give a hoot, now or then, about horse racing...but there I was. So, I watched the whole thing, from the beginning...and I distinctly remember, when Genuine Risk was being led to the starting gates, that I was rooting for her...after all, she was a GIRL, she was wearing green (my favorite color!), and although her odds sucked (13:1...even at 9 yrs old, I knew that was sh*t), I wanted her to win! And...when she did win? I was all alone in my living room jumping up and down screaming SHE WON! SHE WON! SHE WON! I could not believe it....I was soooooo happy! I've never forgotten that day, or that horse. Until I saw the movie Secretariat, I couldn't tell you who won the Kentucky Derby before or after my girl, Genuine Risk...but I'll always remember her...a beauty who beat the boys...lol..!!!!
Genuine Risk is my spot for the 4th greatest filly/mare of all time and no one comes close to her accomplishments that will never be matched. The only female who won or placed in all 3 triple crown races let alone won the Kentucky Derby. This is something that will never be matched by any other filly!!! She is up there with what I consider the true greats: Zenyatta, Ruffian and Lady' Secret. All four have accomplishments that will never be matched
R. I. P. Leroy S. Jolley (1937 - December 18, 2017) who won 101th and 106th. Kentucky Derby with Foolish Pleasure and the filly Genuine Risk. Joley was inducted to the National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 1987. Regards from Venezuela.
thanks, Partymanners, really like the better quality ! was just thinking about her, was on NBC looking at previous Preakness winners and was startled when I came to 1980 and realized what I was looking at.
@Lloyd Bonafide Sounds like a great time! Yes he is a great guy! And everything you said about him is true! Yes I agree about Colmuss...However you say his name! Most announcers today are horrible. I like John E. At Aqueduct. Durkin is definitely top 3. I just like Chic Anderson the best. Have a great one.
I wish someone could get good quality of Secretariat's Derby, especially the alternate footage when you see him appear sooner during that relentless drive circling the whole field. I wish there was film where a camera was on him throughout the race. But that never happened. Wldn't it have been great to have the over head views they have today.
+bon1042 (I know, it's four years later!) I agree with you, but I think that the move he made in the Preakness - "He's going for the lead, and it's >right now< he's looking for it!" - was breathtaking; it was so early, and so fast!
That was a video on my old channel, I just never reupped it here to the new channel, the quality is pretty poor.. I'll try and get it reuploaded though if you really wanted to see it.
I listen for that one high pitched scream fm woman's voice as she heads for the lead on the final turn.... god, I love to watch this. Rumbo looked like he cld've overtaken her with few more seconds. But let's not think about that.
Arcaro knew his racing about rockhill native and plug nickel .cosell tickled me when he said times only important if you're in prison 😂. Jacklyn klugman was my selection as an 11 year old boy .genuine risk only the second Philly to win the race .ran a whale of a race . Dave Johnson great call .great memories .ABC was fantastic on the derby coverage 🐎
At least Arcaro gave an honest opinion. Nowadays telecast if some one said a horse was tired or sore(Plugged Nickel) they would be canceled by the commercial break
some people put down Durkin as a caller, but if you miss Genuine Risk roaring up on the outside in this race, you're pathetic. This was my 3rd Derby, in person, and guess what? I'm probably the only person in that crowd that didn't buy a ticket on Genuine Risk. Young and dumb.
Rickey Beam Presumably just congratulating him for winning. They were/are friends. It's ironic though, considering that Cordero would be the one to cost Vasquez the following race.
Thank you for sharing this video...it's very clear. The other video that's been up here forever is very difficult to watch...too grainy. Thank you again. This is great.
Loved Ruffian but she was a tragedy in the making due partly to her genetics. By a sire who suffered three broken legs during his career(the fourth in a paddock accident took his life at 22), her dam Shenanagrins had at least one leg injury and was by Native Dancer who though a very successful sire line had many unsound progeny especially those who had multiple Native Dancer lines in their pedigrees (i.e. Eight Belles). Reviewer's own line didn't last long because he had too many unsound progeny that never made it to the track.
:) Thanks you for all those Derby! I wasn't born at the time and I didn't get into racing 'til 2004 and I really enjoy watching those past performances and see all those horses I've heard about in action. Do you have the 2004 Derby? My very first one, it would surely bring back memories
cont. I thought it was after you came back with new channel. I'm not talking about the original short video of the Preakness race. cf1970 also posted one showing an alternate vantage point of the race and the point where Cordero drifted way out fm rail.
partymanners, I can't seem to bring up the set of videos on 1980 Preakness. I had favorited the one with lengthy discussion by Cossell and Arcaro on controversy. Did they delete them fm your page? thanks
We'll never know, had Cordero not done what he did in the Preakness and she'd been allowed to come up on the outside as she did in the Derby, would she have been able to overtake Codex.
I just read that at that time GR ran the last 1/4 mile of the Derby faster than any other horse since guess who !! Yuh, Secretariat ran the last 1/4 mile in 23 sec flat.
Hi, sorry I didn't reply on this. I thought you had posted new videos of 1980 Preakness. I favorited part 5 I think or maybe 3. It was the one where there was lengthy dialogue betw Cossell and Arcaro on what Cordero did. There was no question or controversy as far as Arcaro was concerned, and he stated emphatically that Cordero shld've been disqualified. There was, I think, more than one video, all the pre race and post parade film. Now I can't find them even one I made favorite.
"¿El Kentucky Derby? Aún no se ha creado un calificativo que pueda describir su grandeza" José Gregorio Guillot Comentarista hípico y productor radial venezolano.
Amazing to see this again. I sat with Leroy Jolley on Derby day and I can say that he could hardly believe it after she won. He just sauntered down to the Winners Circle and the filly was coming out when we got there. The state police didn’t recognize him and almost didn’t let him on the winners stand.
Love when the Derby was on ABC in 70s and 80s McKay , Cosell,and Arcaro. Great times!
Watching this never fails to bring tears to my eyes. Loved this filly, what grit, what determination!
She sure was a great filly, RIP magnificent girl...
Same.
Her damsire was Gallant Man
Balling my eyes out right now 44 years later.💚🤍💚🤍💚🤍
Tears? LOL
'It's Genuine Risk and she's genuine", timeless moment.
Codex* bumped Genuine Risk in the Preakness, leaving it potentially in doubt as to whether or not he would have beaten her had that not happened, and she proceeded to beat him in the Belmont, so I don't see how you can claim with absolute certainty that he was much superior to her. He was talented, but so was she.
and Cordero said, "I knew if I hit the "bitch" she would slow, hang back, can't remember exact quote, but it's another video, if it's still here. The woman who approached Cordero her name used here is or was Genuine Risk2 I think. and BTW jesusisnotallright, GR wld've won if not bumped, Cordero drifted out fm the rail, on the rail, in the lead, no ground to catch up. And what does he do, he saw GR coming up on outside, just the way she won the KD. AND she came up between 2 lead horses in Belmont in the slop and came in SECOND. She didn't win, but point she is she was right up front. AND Codex came in 8th in Belmont. Jack Whitaker said after race, the REAL story of this year's Triple Crown is GR, the only filly ever to run in and PLACE in ALL 3 TC races.
bon1042 While I personally do think Cordero deliberately interfered with Genuine Risk in the Preakness and that Codex should have been disqualified, we can't really take the unverified claim of a random RUclipsr (and one with a name that implies bias) as absolute proof of Cordero's guilt. They could be lying, trolling, mistaken etc.
That said, I do personally think Cordero is an extremely dirty rider, and he's been reported to be a bully as well, intimidating or taunting rival jockeys before races in an attempt to make them ride poorly.
I believe her. I understand, but your thinking drives me to frustration, to love GR and use her name +2 doesn't mean she didn't talk to Cordero and ask him about this. I can't imagine her making up" I knew if I hit the "bitch" etc. It is so outrageous and such a portrayal of his weak macho ego (super so with Latino and Italian men) for him to utter that word, demonstrates shattering of his ego when a filly won the KD and then came up on the outside just like she did in KD to possibly pull it off again was too much for him. He so clearly drifted way out fm the rail, fm being first, on the rail with no ground to make up, best place to be and then drift way out. Jockey Vasquez, the Firestones filed complaint. Vasquez also said he hit her with his whip she had a welt over her left eye. Listen to Arcaro and Cosell here on video. Arcaro thought he shld be disqualified. What more do you want??? Every person on YTube doesn't have to be a generalized random with bias, a liar, a troll, mistaken. Was she "mistaken" when she asked him and he responded the way he did. I'm a mature, honest person who never had much patience with denial, close mindedness etc. I understand what you say and it is true, but to almost dismiss GR2's story because it's on YTube and thus can't be the truth is so frustrating.
I meant watch the '80 Preakness here and listen to lengthy discussion after race where Eddie Arcaro himself thought Codero shld've been disqualified.
I met Genuine Risk about 7 years ago (several years before she died) in Loudoun County, she was magnificent. Obviously on her last legs, but she still had an aura about her, and that look in her eye that said, yea, that was me back in 1980. I fell in love with her.
Lucky you !!!
I think so too, it was an incredible moment in time.
HES NOT DEAD
+jesusisnotallright s Why bring up that dirty rider, anyway, seeing as he blatantly fouled GR in the Preakness two weeks after this race?!
TEA miro But when the time comes, I don’t think he’ll RIP
THANK YOU for posting this great video on Derby day. I was privileged enough to be there the day Genny took home the roses... not only an amazing filly but an amazing racehorse...one of the best
This does bring back memories of a simpler time and a brilliant filly…rip Jenny
Genuine Risk showed an impressive quality here. An epic race. Probably the best filly that has won Kentucky Derby.
I picked Genuine Risk to win, probably mostly sentimental. But it sure was a thrill to see her deliver! What most people don't realize is that fillies against colts usually are successful by running on the lead early, then try to hold off the males (remember Winning Colors). But Genuine Risk (and Zenyatta) ran from behind. She took it to the field the hard way. Taking the bumps, running wider and losing ground, then finally grinding through with guts and heart to go past everyone. Class act all the way, Genuine Risk!!!
God bless Eddie Arcaro (2:08) (February 19, 1916 - November 14, 1997) He was born in Cincinatti, Ohio. His parents, Pasquale and Josephine were two italian immigrants.
You could hear me cheering from my dad’s home in northern Ohio all the way to Churchill Downs when Genuine Risk showed the boys her heels!! ♥️😊👍🏼
The fact that she kept on running, after the devastating move she made on the turn, is one of the best Derby performances ever. She looked like Arazi running by those poor colts/
Yeah the turn was like a hot knife through butter. She stepped on it big time.
Love the refreshingly honest perspective from Arcaro, a man who could speak with authority on the subject of the Derby. He said Plugged Nickel and Rockhill Native didn't want 10 furlongs and he was right.
Thanks so much for posting these, lot's of memories for me. The first Derby I attended was
1976, I only missed three between 1976 - 2009. My friends finally hit the wall lol.
Never fails to bring a smile to my face.
Look at that girl STRUT at 8:18, bless her heart !!
Girl Power Genuine Risk
She beat all the boys. The first Derby winner I ever won money on. I sent $2 to Churchill Downs with my sister to bet on Genuine Risk.
The closest a filly came to winning the Triple Crown. A 1st in the Derby, 2nd in the Preakness (I was 11 during the 1980 spring racing and I was mad!) and 2nd in the Belmont. I fell in love with 43 years ago today because she proved girls could do anything! I miss her. Run free, Genny!!
I believe that Genuine Risk is the closest thing we've had to a female Secretariat. She was, like he was, the very definition of magnificent. Other fillies (like the much-praised Ruffian) may have been superior in one or two areas (e.g. sheer speed) but I cannot think of another filly that is/was as versatile as Genuine Risk. She was capable of just about everything. She could run on fast tracks (e.g. her Derby and Preakness performances), on sloppy tracks (e.g. her Belmont performance), at short(ish) distances (e.g. a mile and an eighth, like here), at longer distances (e.g. the mile and a half Belmont), she was durable (she had no health conditions, fractures or injuries throughout her entire life, other than one wounded leg from a freak accident that could have happened to any horse), she had immense endurance, she was brave (determinedly kept running even when the much larger Codex collided with her in the Preakness) and she had great speed (not exceptional, but she was faster than many top colts and fillies). Add that all up and we have quite possibly the greatest female racehorse of all time. Ruffian? Wasn't durable and never won against colts. Rachel Alexandra? Had distance limitations (she'd have never managed the Belmont, for example). Zenyatta? Had issues with certain types of tracks. They (and many other fillies that I've not mentioned) may have been superior to Genuine Risk in one or two areas (Ruffian and Rachel Alexandra were both front-running speed-horses and Zenyatta, being a giant, has an immense stride that enabled her to cover huge amounts of ground very quickly), but in terms of overall strengths I think that Genuine Risk was above them all.
*+VialliForever*
I learned just recently that she had a foal by Secretariat that was stillborn. The fates can be so cruel. What if . . .
Susan Ouimette Yes, she did. She had fertility problems throughout her whole life unfortunately, and produced only two living foals. Neither of them ever raced. It's a shame, not only because she was a great racehorse but also because her owners were very ambitious and had great plans for her. They had planned to send her to some of the best stallions, first to Secretariat and then second to Nijinsky II (who won the English Triple Crown), and then probably onto other popular sires, but it didn't work out because of her constant failures to conceive and miscarriages.
Ruffian is the greatest of all time instead of best female. She didn't need to beat a colt since she beat Secretariat and Man O' Wars record and was quoted by Secretariat's trainer himself that she was better. By the way she never lost at all. She set records in all her starts. She won the filly triple crown. She ran on serious injuries and still won against good horses like Hot N Nasty! Unlike this filly Ruffian had real competition. These horses are weak and she lost more then once as well and never did beat good horses or set records either. Ruffian would kill her anyway. Ruffian destroyed her times in a mile and Ruffian only ran once going a mile and it was the Acorn that she won by 13 and half lengths. Then again Ruffian ran once going 1 1/8 and won by 13 lengths as well and took that record and Genuine Risk can't get even a second to it and she ran that distance a few times as well. Going 7 furlongs as well Ruffian ran it once and her time is still faster by a lot and lets see Genuine Risk lost the Belmont Stakes and the horse who won that time is a good 3 seconds from Ruffians and Ruffian was even held back. And even in the Match race Jacinto picked Ruffian over a Kentucky Derby winner! She even pulled away before she broke down to be half a length in front. On top of it Ruffians records all stand to this day but one. You should research a lot before saying things that is why you really look like a idiot now for saying Ruffian isn't even good! On top of it Ruffian led every race by every pole and there was never a horse in front of her and if you seen her races when a horse comes to try and get near her she pulls away more and on top of it Ruffian won every race with ease and never been pushed or whipped other then once which she was injured and ran against a great horse which is Hot n Nasty! OH LOL this is gonna make you look way bad now Genuine Risk jockey is also Ruffians! I met him and even have seen the video of him in a interview of who is the best he rode and seen and it's RUFFIAN. Ruffian won 5 graded 1 stakes and Genuine Risk only won two! Genuine Risk lost to even females that weren't even good. This is a joke! Don't get me started on Rachel Alexandra or Personal Ensign!
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You could have written glowingly about Ruffian, and truly honored her memory, by lauding her while still respecting others. You instead took the lowest possible of roads, and came across as a preening, childish braggart whom her connections would no doubt be embarrassed to have as a fan. It's cheap, and it's tacky, and you've done her a disservice. What a sad lack of sportsmanship this displays.
johnofohu123 The first and only time Ruffian raced against a colt, she crumbled and died. At least Genuine Risk could hold her own against colts. If that's brutal to say, tough. I don't appreciate being referred to as an "idiot" when all I have done is state an opinion without insulting anyone. I stated that Genuine Risk was perhaps the greatest OVERALL female horse in my opinion. She was NOT the fastest, but she had a very well-balanced mix of qualities. She was durable (unlike Ruffian), she was reasonably fast (not extremely, but she was decent), she had a lot of stamina (unlike Rachel Alexandra), she could handle a variety of tracks and distances (be it dirt or turf, or 1 mile on a fast track or 1 1/2 miles on a sloppy one), and she had courage (many fillies would have been intimidated by a much larger colt like Codex running into them, but Genuine Risk kept on running without hesitation).
In short, she had talent in every area, whereas most other top fillies only did in one (e.g. speed).
Her first surviving offspring, Genuine Reward, died yesterday. He was 25.
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going to the post she was really strutting, looking lovely. "There will be a large price on her, but there really is NO price on her. There is absolutely No chance that this filly wld ever be sold..." "They love her..." That's nice. That Preakness..... then just think, in slop she came up right between 2 colts leading in the Belmont and came in second, placing in all 3 TC races. As Jack Whittaker said after the Belmont, "but the real story of this year's TC race is Genuine Risk."
ABSOLUTELY!!! CANNOT add much 2 that & she would've WON the Preakness also, Don't get me started on that!!! She came in 2nd in Belmont as well !!!! Only mistake in this Broadcast, is when Cosell sd her time of (2:02)Flat was not fantastic, WRONG!!! when a Filly beats the Colts in her very FIRST time of running a mile & a quarter(1 1/4) EVER in her life , that's an excellent winning time!!! in 1988 when Winning Colors won
her time: (2:02 1/5)....
AND don't forget that Jacinto Vasquez , Genuine Risk's Jockey , is an outstanding Jockey on top of FILLIES !!!! in case people forgot (don't know) , Jacinto was not only the Jockey for , argueably, GREATEST FILLY EVER --- RUFFIAN --- in 74 & 75[whe she was a 3 year old] ...he was also the Jockey for Foolish Pleasure (Kentucky Derby Winner) - Colt -- in 1975 & for their Match Race , he CHOSE to be on RUFFIAN !!!!!! that tells anyone all they need 2 know !!!! Bam scoreboard !!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY correct and don't forget Genuine Risk AND Affirmed [78' Triple Crown Winner] both had the same Sire[Father] Exclusive Native !!! and Exclusive Native's Sire Raise A Native was the Father of Mr Prospector who was an INCREDIBLE Sire of Sire's as we all know !!!!
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My best friend and I were screaming so loudly at the end of this race, two of my macho neighbors broke down my door to "save" us! (I refused to let them pay the locksmith.) When we shrieked again at GR's clearly bring fouled - IMO - in the Preakness, they again ran over, but only knocked and yelled that time.
Heh, maybe you'd be better off screaming words (e.g. "Yeah!") as opposed to just flat-out screaming. If you scream a word people might realize you're watching/listening to a sporting event (males frequently scream words for the same reason). If you just scream however people might think you're being murdered instead.
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Well, my friend *was* screaming "Run you b*tch, run!" and I was screaming "Go, GOOO!" but this was probably interpreted as being commands directed at each other to flee from someone! Maybe another time, "Yeah!" *would* be the way to go! Heat of the moment. . . .
Susan Ouimette I can't say I blame you. Genuine Risk was truly great in this performance, especially considering that Rumbo was really flying towards the end. I'd have really loved it if she'd won the TC. I hope a filly manages it one day, or at least wins more than one of the TC races. Rachel Alexandra could have possibly won the Derby as well as the Preakness if she'd been entered for it, but she'd have never managed the Belmont. Genuine Risk was one of very few fillies with the endurance, speed and durability to have a chance at all three.
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Given the new eligibility requirements for entering the Kentucky Derby, we're likely to see even fewer fillies run in it - *very* likely, several columnists have opined. If Zenyatta hadn't been as slow to mature as she was, who knows? Mike Smith said she still had a gear to spare in the '09 Breeder's Cup; maybe given a mile and a half, she would have shown us something special.
I'm "glad," in a sense, that Genuine Risk was beaten fairly in the Belmont, as, if she'd won that race, her quite likely having been denied the Preakness -hence the Triple Crown - per what I saw as an obvious foul would have been a much more bitter pill to swallow.
Susan Ouimette I strongly disagree with the alterations made towards eligibility for the Derby. The old system functioned for many years, it should have just been left how it was. But if they ARE going to change it, then I think they should make similar changes to the Kentucky Oaks, and have a 'points system' put into place for that race too. Then make it so that any race that gives points towards the Kentucky Derby also gives points towards the Kentucky Oaks. That way any filly who competes in the unisex races and does well will gain points towards BOTH the Derby and the Oaks. That way, she will have the option of going into either the Oaks or the Derby, depending on which her owners feel is best suited for her. That will prevent fillies from being forced to choose between the Oaks and the Derby, and allow their owners to be under less pressure, as if they decide at the last moment that they don't want to send their filly to the Derby, then she will have still gained points to allow her to enter the Oaks instead.
I swear this a true story. In May 1980, I was a 9 yr old girl living in the So. CA desert...out in the sticks...we only got 2 channels on the tv..36 & 42..and after Saturday morning cartoons, there usually wasn't crap on the tv, except ABC's Wide World of Sports...which, unless there wasn't something I was really interested in, like figure skating, or something like that, I wouldn't bother watching...but, this particular Saturday morning, it was HOT outside...damn hot! (as it can be in the desert...summer starts early...like in March!), so I wanted to stay inside...and suffer along with whatever Wide World of Sports was gonna show...which, was....ugh...boring Kentucky Derby! I didn't give a hoot, now or then, about horse racing...but there I was. So, I watched the whole thing, from the beginning...and I distinctly remember, when Genuine Risk was being led to the starting gates, that I was rooting for her...after all, she was a GIRL, she was wearing green (my favorite color!), and although her odds sucked (13:1...even at 9 yrs old, I knew that was sh*t), I wanted her to win! And...when she did win? I was all alone in my living room jumping up and down screaming SHE WON! SHE WON! SHE WON! I could not believe it....I was soooooo happy! I've never forgotten that day, or that horse. Until I saw the movie Secretariat, I couldn't tell you who won the Kentucky Derby before or after my girl, Genuine Risk...but I'll always remember her...a beauty who beat the boys...lol..!!!!
I love this horse. Such a cool moment.
Genuine Risk is my spot for the 4th greatest filly/mare of all time and no one comes close to her accomplishments that will never be matched. The only female who won or placed in all 3 triple crown races let alone won the Kentucky Derby. This is something that will never be matched by any other filly!!! She is up there with what I consider the true greats: Zenyatta, Ruffian and Lady' Secret. All four have accomplishments that will never be matched
God, I love watching this.
Love her prancing at 8:16
"The Kentucky Derby? There is no an adjective able to describe its greatness"
Jose Gregorio Guillot
Venezuelan Horse Racing Analyst and Radio Producer
R. I. P. Leroy S. Jolley (1937 - December 18, 2017) who won 101th and 106th. Kentucky Derby with Foolish Pleasure and the filly Genuine Risk. Joley was inducted to the National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 1987. Regards from Venezuela.
The Phillies won the World Series that year,their first ever.They won their second in the year in which Genuine Risk died.
With the back straight on the Turf infield Churchill Downs was building the turf course in 1980 which was not completed until 1987
thanks, Partymanners, really like the better quality ! was just thinking about her, was on NBC looking at previous Preakness winners and was startled when I came to 1980 and realized what I was looking at.
Aww with her family in the winners circle heart warming...
There is no better race caller than DAVE JOHNSON....he was the BEST!!!!
+Christopher Duganberry I was just watching this yet again, and thinking the same. He built up perfectly to "and she's Genuine!"
@Lloyd Bonafide Chic Anderson
@Lloyd Bonafide I knew Tom Durkin from his days at Cahokia Downs growing up. I know he is a great announcer...
@Lloyd Bonafide Sounds like a great time! Yes he is a great guy! And everything you said about him is true! Yes I agree about Colmuss...However you say his name! Most announcers today are horrible. I like John E. At Aqueduct. Durkin is definitely top 3. I just like Chic Anderson the best. Have a great one.
Have you watched 1988 Belmont, Risen Star, Dave Johnson's call, priceless !!!!
I wish someone could get good quality of Secretariat's Derby, especially the alternate footage when you see him appear sooner during that relentless drive circling the whole field. I wish there was film where a camera was on him throughout the race. But that never happened. Wldn't it have been great to have the over head views they have today.
+bon1042 (I know, it's four years later!) I agree with you, but I think that the move he made in the Preakness - "He's going for the lead, and it's >right now< he's looking for it!" - was breathtaking; it was so early, and so fast!
Why she's not ranked as one of the greatest horses I'll never understand, she came within a couple of lengths of winning the triple crown.
That was a video on my old channel, I just never reupped it here to the new channel, the quality is pretty poor.. I'll try and get it reuploaded though if you really wanted to see it.
THANK god for Dave Johnson !!
I am 100% agree with you. Greetings from Venezuela.
ABC Sports the best ever RIP.
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Seem like almost yesterday. After so many super horses in the 70s, this would be the first year in a string of 20 where the favorite failed to win.
I listen for that one high pitched scream fm woman's voice as she heads for the lead on the final turn.... god, I love to watch this. Rumbo looked like he cld've overtaken her with few more seconds. But let's not think about that.
Arcaro knew his racing about rockhill native and plug nickel .cosell tickled me when he said times only important if you're in prison 😂. Jacklyn klugman was my selection as an 11 year old boy .genuine risk only the second Philly to win the race .ran a whale of a race . Dave Johnson great call .great memories .ABC was fantastic on the derby coverage 🐎
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At least Arcaro gave an honest opinion. Nowadays telecast if some one said a horse was tired or sore(Plugged Nickel) they would be canceled by the commercial break
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some people put down Durkin as a caller, but if you miss Genuine Risk roaring up on the outside in this race, you're pathetic. This was my 3rd Derby, in person, and guess what? I'm probably the only person in that crowd that didn't buy a ticket on Genuine Risk. Young and dumb.
Rickey Beam Presumably just congratulating him for winning. They were/are friends. It's ironic though, considering that Cordero would be the one to cost Vasquez the following race.
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Thank you for sharing this video...it's very clear. The other video that's been up here forever is very difficult to watch...too grainy. Thank you again. This is great.
My husband Curtis Rubbed Gold Stage.......
Loved Ruffian but she was a tragedy in the making due partly to her genetics. By a sire who suffered three broken legs during his career(the fourth in a paddock accident took his life at 22), her dam Shenanagrins had at least one leg injury and was by Native Dancer who though a very successful sire line had many unsound progeny especially those who had multiple Native Dancer lines in their pedigrees (i.e. Eight Belles). Reviewer's own line didn't last long because he had too many unsound progeny that never made it to the track.
:) Thanks you for all those Derby! I wasn't born at the time and I didn't get into racing 'til 2004 and I really enjoy watching those past performances and see all those horses I've heard about in action.
Do you have the 2004 Derby? My very first one, it would surely bring back memories
Good race this year.
What ever happened to plugged nickel? Is he still alive or has he passed away?
Wow, she was prancing like a dressage horse in the post parade!
Race @ 13:15
partymanners2, I'm looking for 81' Jim Dandy? - Saratoga, 'Willow Hour'
I was there, Travers too. Picked him both times.
cont. I thought it was after you came back with new channel. I'm not talking about the original short video of the Preakness race. cf1970 also posted one showing an alternate vantage point of the race and the point where Cordero drifted way out fm rail.
You cleaned up the film in the last 1/8 mi with those gray lines. How did you do that ?
partymanners, I can't seem to bring up the set of videos on 1980 Preakness. I had favorited the one with lengthy discussion by Cossell and Arcaro on controversy. Did they delete them fm your page? thanks
Firestone ( Firestein ) his name was changed
We'll never know, had Cordero not done what he did in the Preakness and she'd been allowed to come up on the outside as she did in the Derby, would she have been able to overtake Codex.
I just read that at that time GR ran the last 1/4 mile of the Derby faster than any other horse since guess who !! Yuh, Secretariat ran the last 1/4 mile in 23 sec flat.
Hi, sorry I didn't reply on this. I thought you had posted new videos of 1980 Preakness. I favorited part 5 I think or maybe 3. It was the one where there was lengthy dialogue betw Cossell and Arcaro on what Cordero did. There was no question or controversy as far as Arcaro was concerned, and he stated emphatically that Cordero shld've been disqualified. There was, I think, more than one video, all the pre race and post parade film. Now I can't find them even one I made favorite.
"¿El Kentucky Derby? Aún no se ha creado un calificativo que pueda describir su grandeza"
José Gregorio Guillot
Comentarista hípico y productor radial venezolano.
Prove Out, Onion, and Angle Light. What do these horses have in common? They all beat Secretariat.
+carl spelvin Which relates to this race how?
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Amazing to see this again. I sat with Leroy Jolley on Derby day and I can say that he could hardly believe it after she won. He just sauntered down to the Winners Circle and the filly was coming out when we got there. The state police didn’t recognize him and almost didn’t let him on the winners stand.
Go eagles
My moms step father owned her
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My moms step father owned her