Ragavan vs Nadaar vs Titania vs Acererak EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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Комментарии • 134

  • @cameronc530
    @cameronc530 2 года назад +42

    Just to clarify how the Dungeon works. When you Venture into the "Runestone Caverns", it is not an "Until End of Turn" effect. The cards are exiled and you play them right then and there as part of the ability resolving (timing restrictions are ignored).

  • @AlchemicalLove
    @AlchemicalLove 2 года назад +112

    Wow a rare Turn one mistake, GSZ should be reshuffled into the deck when you got the Dryad Arbor

    • @austinblankenship7631
      @austinblankenship7631 2 года назад +13

      in fairness, thats probably the easiest turn 1 misplay to make

    • @Universum
      @Universum 2 года назад +2

      And shouldn't the Dryad Arbor be in the creature zone rather than land zone? I really dislike seeing it almost hidden back there.

    • @AlchemicalLove
      @AlchemicalLove 2 года назад +3

      @@Universum technically there is no zones per say so not really but putting dryad arbor with your lands is a bit scumbag since it's easy to ignore a board wipe lol not that I think mudstah here intends to be scummy with ot

    • @kazon0001
      @kazon0001 2 года назад +3

      @@AlchemicalLove there was a big thing that happened a few years ago involving the FTV dryad arbor hiding among forests and being used as a surprise blocker. that event lead to some zoning enforcements for cards with multiple types, like dryad arbor. though i believe they only apply to competitive level events. personally i tend to put all mana sources together at the bottom of my board, even artifacts and creatures like dryad arbor.

    • @olafthemoose9413
      @olafthemoose9413 2 года назад

      In official tournaments you have to keep your dryad's arbors easily distinguishably from the rest of your mana base.

  • @nikos731
    @nikos731 2 года назад +12

    Leaving the Martin punt aside in the end (Altar+Gravecrawler+Bone Miser+Dictate...), this was a very good game. Every deck had its chance to do what it is supposed to and had their moments.

  • @Exaurilo
    @Exaurilo 2 года назад +48

    Martin could have destroyed everyone's creatures when he had Dictate + Bone Miser + Phyrexian Altar and Gravecrawler in his yard, making it an easy win. Rip

  • @craigstege6376
    @craigstege6376 2 года назад +4

    One does not "forget" to untap lands. You do not get to not untap them, the table is obligated to remind/allow the untap. They do not have the words "you may choose not to untap" therefore the action takes place, the turn order cannot proceed until they are untapped.

  • @Insharai
    @Insharai 2 года назад +11

    Moment I saw the green sun, I lowkey knew the misplay was gonna happen lol

  • @plasnania
    @plasnania 2 года назад +11

    As a friendly heads up, Tomb is pronounced as Doom. Tome (like Home, as you pronounced it) is a book. They're both rare words used, so I thought you might like to know.

  • @argonnas2
    @argonnas2 2 года назад +33

    Martin had the win but punted, should have done the lili ulti to allow him to cast from grave acerak with altar would have won it right there

    • @lunarmathemagics7881
      @lunarmathemagics7881 2 года назад +2

      Seems like he thought you had to go into tomb of annihilation

  • @rteishe
    @rteishe 2 года назад +2

    Came here to say "shuffle GSZ back into you're library!" but knew in my heart it had already been said, lol. Only reason I'm so trained to look for that error is because I've done it so many times myself 😆

  • @em-jaelam4460
    @em-jaelam4460 2 года назад +8

    I honestly only know how to counter Andrew's spells, so running out Mono black led to many punts.

  • @Soulryu11
    @Soulryu11 2 года назад +3

    Martin punting with that one sided board wipe. Had the chance to infinitely cast gravecrawler and wipe everyone’s board.

  • @malachifreedman3975
    @malachifreedman3975 2 года назад +7

    I thought i'd seen everything till I saw Yavimaya in a mono red deck.

  • @bwallaceMLG
    @bwallaceMLG 2 года назад +6

    This victory felt personal I have a very similar Nadaar deck that I love and playing so it’s good to see another deck take the win

  • @danriemer9724
    @danriemer9724 2 года назад +17

    Liliana, Heretical Healer makes a zombie when it flips so there would have been an extra blocker to protect his walker or sacrifice to contamination the next upkeep.
    Also, any idea why Sword of the Animist sat unequipped for so long after it was cast? They left 3 mana open a couple turns in a row before equipping so I thought they may have had Teferi’s protection, but then when the vandalblast came there was nothing.
    Lastly, any reason for not grabbing the full 3 plains on all those land tax triggers? I’ve never seen a reason not too. It keeps you hitting you land drops as well as reducing the likelihood of drawing a plains going forward. If it forces you to discard, Plains in the yard are decent targets for Sun Titan and Seveinne’s Reclamation too.

  • @fivedown4424
    @fivedown4424 2 года назад +2

    glad to see dungeons finally getting some love. its crazy how strong it can be

  • @4oWhat
    @4oWhat 2 года назад +4

    Id love to take a look at that Nadaar deck

    • @Nr4747
      @Nr4747 2 года назад

      It's in the description of the video now !

    • @4oWhat
      @4oWhat 2 года назад

      @@Nr4747 nice, thanks for telling me!

  • @tatashie
    @tatashie 2 года назад +6

    5:33
    "Forget to untap lands"
    This may differ from the playgroup to playgroup, but don't the rules force you to untap lands and other pernaments (unless there is an effect that allows you to leave them turned)? Even if you forget, they must still be untaped? To me, it's ok to say "oops, I forgot to untap lands before I took the map" and usually everyone dosen't mind it.

    • @andrea9342
      @andrea9342 2 года назад +1

      Indeed, it's a mandatory action, if so next time I am gonna go "ops, i forgot to legend rule my commander"

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад +1

      I mean, I was just pointing out a silly mistake on my part. It would have been fine if I'd realized it later.

  • @justinisorange
    @justinisorange 4 месяца назад

    I couldn’t figure out why urzas saga would be sacrificed - contamination doesn’t work like blood moon, it doesn’t make it lose all other abilities, it just replaces what the mana ability could be. Am I missing something at the table?

  • @MTG_Brewzl
    @MTG_Brewzl 2 года назад +6

    I just dont get it. Why didnt Martin go for a contamination lock t3?
    Also, that fury storm 🤌🏻

  • @p1k4nurxp13sr
    @p1k4nurxp13sr 2 года назад +2

    Note, Goldspan should have made a treasure when it was targeted with Gift of Immortality.

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR 2 года назад +5

    Nick attacked with sun titan the turn it was ephemerated without haste

  • @johnsulik6754
    @johnsulik6754 2 года назад +1

    Wanted to note that Acerak goes back to hand before venturing into the dungeon. So when the 4/4 was made, acerak should've been put to hand.

  • @UnknownDutch
    @UnknownDutch 2 года назад +3

    17:35 sun titan has summoning sickness ?

  • @nicksmith516
    @nicksmith516 7 месяцев назад

    Came here for the Ragavan deck and of course its the only one without the decklist linked 😭

  • @garethsentry
    @garethsentry 2 года назад

    Gg wp, liked the value crom the black deck and white played really well. Sad yoy got messed up on the behemoth play. Ragavan is super strong.

  • @cassingarr7397
    @cassingarr7397 2 года назад +6

    first game action doesn't shuffle the green sun's zenith back? kek

  • @connorbell5340
    @connorbell5340 2 года назад +1

    Hey there, only the link for Titania is posted above. Great gameplay as always. I love monkey.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад

      Working on the rest, sorry. They're all at work currently.

    • @connorbell5340
      @connorbell5340 2 года назад

      @@MTGMuddstah jobs, for a living?!? How dare they.

  • @MajesticUnicornAF
    @MajesticUnicornAF 2 года назад +1

    "Sword of the Anime" I love it

  • @Kokonutzlz
    @Kokonutzlz 2 года назад +5

    Man I was just waiting for a turn 3 Contamination/Gravecrawler combo. That or wiping the board later and playing the combo then

  • @michaelrichards5253
    @michaelrichards5253 2 года назад

    Zombies! 😲 Also I love the Liliana, Heretical Healer.

  • @jag3r32
    @jag3r32 2 года назад +1

    wheres the ragavan deck!!!? please reply im trying to make a ragavan deck and this is exactly what im going for

  • @phgtxxx5028
    @phgtxxx5028 2 года назад +2

    Max should have gotten a trigger from the valakut exploration seeing a land enter from the sword of the animist

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад +1

      I believe he did, I just may have not narrated it.

    • @phgtxxx5028
      @phgtxxx5028 2 года назад

      @@MTGMuddstah Heard that brother!

  • @ValkyrieQueenInori
    @ValkyrieQueenInori 2 года назад

    I gotta know where you got your Sleeves for Orvar, I really want a Set for my Giant Tribal
    Love the Video as always Muddstah

  • @waltersr8737
    @waltersr8737 2 года назад +1

    What gave the Sun Titan haste? He flickered it during his upkeep.

  • @rhainex5952
    @rhainex5952 2 года назад +1

    Is there chance a deck list for ragavan?

  • @Millus1987
    @Millus1987 2 года назад

    That Nadaar deck looks very nice

  • @Smutter86
    @Smutter86 2 года назад

    Did I miss something?? How did Nick & Max cast colored spells with Contamination on the field??

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 года назад +2

    I want to try Acererak with Aluren or Rooftop Storm one of these days... 🙃

    • @migsterman67
      @migsterman67 2 года назад +1

      Acererak and Aluren is great! I've added Acererak to my Scarab God deck which runs Rooftop Storm...yet to pull off the combo however! Have pulled off infinite enter the dungeons with my Acererak Commander deck tho. So much so I'm targeted on sight when I pull out the deck! 😂

    • @nerdenthusiastashton8164
      @nerdenthusiastashton8164 2 года назад

      I've got the combo in my Grimgrin aristocrat deck and it is very fun to play. Of all the degenerate combos the deck can do, Acererak is a fun way to win.

  • @leonfriedemann9151
    @leonfriedemann9151 2 года назад

    The Archlich deck seems pretty cool to me. Except I usually only play one liliana per deck.

  • @coltonreed2107
    @coltonreed2107 2 года назад +1

    I’m not sure if you’ve been asked this but would conjurors closet work well in Titania?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад +1

      Certainly wouldn't be a bad addition. Could be nice to get lands back at the end of your turn. I'll try and find space for it!

  • @thebeat467
    @thebeat467 2 года назад +2

    Muddstah always gets picked on I swear 😂😂

  • @RealClassixX
    @RealClassixX 2 года назад +2

    I really want to build a mono-blue Grazilaxx deck, but I can't find enough cards that make my opponents make interesting choices.

    • @twistedpear18
      @twistedpear18 2 года назад +2

      From what I’ve seen, Grazilaxx is at his best when using and abusing extra turns while controlling the board with your standard suite of mono-blue stuff. What kind of choices are you interested in forcing?

    • @killersithlords
      @killersithlords 2 года назад

      I had a Grazilaxx deck that all about ETBs and controlling the board. I had some cards that mattered when they were blocked but deiced only keeping the one that really mattered. It's a fun deck during play testing.

    • @RealClassixX
      @RealClassixX Год назад

      I was a fool when I wrote this comment, I built the deck shortly after and it rules.

  • @SirForcEdge
    @SirForcEdge 2 года назад

    I'm confused, on the attack that took out Martin, why didn't he sacrifice Creatures until nick had nothing left to attack with? He wouldn't have lost any life

  • @darkusandtoast2207
    @darkusandtoast2207 Год назад

    1:35 anyone else think acererak the archlitch is thematically off?
    Like you have to finish the dungeon so you can play it? Wouldn't it be the final boss or maybe a transform card where completion of the dungeon turns it into the litch almost a reward/loot?
    Also why would having an opponent sacrifice a creature stop the zombie making progress?

  • @lucakisielius4012
    @lucakisielius4012 Год назад

    Can y'all provide the ragavan decklist please?

  • @calebsmith4530
    @calebsmith4530 2 года назад +1

    I *clap* love *clap* Nadaar!

  • @Biggzlar
    @Biggzlar 2 года назад +4

    Why would Urza's Saga go to the gy at 12:11?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад +2

      It has something to do with how Contamination makes it into a Swamp, but the Saga needs counters on it. I'll try to find the ruling online, but hopefully someone more experienced can explain it.

    • @gdiridium5525
      @gdiridium5525 2 года назад +10

      @@MTGMuddstah This is incorrect, Contamination is not a black blood moon, and does not affect land types, it just makes it so that if a land is tapped for mana, it instead makes Black

    • @pauldyson8098
      @pauldyson8098 2 года назад +4

      @@gdiridium5525 You are correct. I learned the hard way, though, that Blood Moon DOES send Saga to the yard.

    • @jaredsmith3938
      @jaredsmith3938 2 года назад +1

      @@pauldyson8098 but contamination does not turn lands into swamps it just makes them only produce black mana

    • @Biggzlar
      @Biggzlar 2 года назад +1

      @@gdiridium5525 Exactly my point, unlike Blood Moon, Contamination does not kill Urza's Saga.

  • @stevenlorenzo7399
    @stevenlorenzo7399 2 года назад +2

    Monke 🦕

  • @CMAzeriah
    @CMAzeriah 2 года назад

    What is the point of running etali if so done will always remove it.

  • @jessedorval7051
    @jessedorval7051 2 года назад

    Martin could have drained the board with the combo of gravecrawler and phyrexian altar it would be able to be cast and sacrificed over and over until everyone was dead as long as there was a blood artist like effect out on board

  • @QwaC
    @QwaC 2 года назад

    ok, something ive been wondering for a while. in a mono color deck, ehy would you run exotic orchard, and not just the basic land type of your deck?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад +1

      In Ragavan specifically, the spell he exiles doesn't get the clause that you can cast it for any color. Max added it so he could cast any of those types of spells if needed.

    • @QwaC
      @QwaC 2 года назад

      @@MTGMuddstah ok, I get that, but why is it also in decks where there is no stealing or using of opponents cards?

  • @Felhate
    @Felhate 2 года назад +2

    Really bad to swing in with gravecrawler when you only have two creatures with Contamination. He could have locked the board for a while. Good to know he caught the mistake for the dungeon. It is always best to keep bouncin Ace for value.

    • @holphe3787
      @holphe3787 2 года назад

      Gravecrawler cant block, might aswell swing

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 2 года назад +2

      @@holphe3787 He needs to feed a creature to Contamination every turn to keep it around, so the more creatures he spares, the better.

  • @skyjones5425
    @skyjones5425 2 года назад +1

    Sweet!

  • @Chuubii
    @Chuubii 2 года назад +1

    Doesn't ephemerate rebound need to already have a legal target before he sacrificed Nadaar?

    • @holphe3787
      @holphe3787 2 года назад +1

      Nah first rebound trigger, then you may chose to cast it

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 2 года назад +1

      The rebound trigger itself has to resolve first, and that doesn't have a target.

  • @nicholasbowdler9447
    @nicholasbowdler9447 2 года назад

    Why does Urza die on entering?

  • @maxbodifee3263
    @maxbodifee3263 2 года назад

    Nice to see mono W win the game. Although it shouldn't have ;) And the deck was good (especially with his Sun Titan play & the like), not the dungeons. They are so underwhelming..

  • @GamerTT00
    @GamerTT00 2 года назад

    Sweet video, I really love that ravagan deck, that monkey is good in any format is legal mg. Also, why after a year there's not a single game of Liesa in your channel? Makes me sad that nobody play her in your channel

    • @garethsentry
      @garethsentry 2 года назад

      I play her and my pod hates it, but I don't care ;P

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR 2 года назад +3

    Seeing green sun's zenith in the graveyard :|

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад

      It was.... intentional? Haha, no no. I'm just bad.

  • @draftiercorn2455
    @draftiercorn2455 2 года назад

    Is it just me or does music in the Background sound like it's from FF IX?

  • @lukedalrymple7677
    @lukedalrymple7677 2 года назад

    rules question can you play yavamaya cradel of growth in a mono red deck? Cause thats what max did

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад

      Yep

    • @johnsulik6754
      @johnsulik6754 2 года назад +1

      The reason: it's colorless and does not have any Mana symbols for color identity.

  • @jordanelmer4234
    @jordanelmer4234 2 года назад

    I kinda want that Ragavan list.

  • @plain6677
    @plain6677 2 года назад

    Green sun zenith reshuffles itself into your library

  • @NyxTheScary
    @NyxTheScary 2 года назад +1

    Holy shit this game was nuts.

  • @tatenewnham1055
    @tatenewnham1055 2 года назад

    You have to complete a dungeon to venture into a new one

  • @afspeellijstnaruto
    @afspeellijstnaruto 2 года назад +3

    Ow man, that white dungeon 'deck' makes me wanna buy that shitty precon. But i already got way too many decks as is.

    • @delanee
      @delanee 2 года назад

      what precon? The only dungeon based precon is esper and graveyard shenanigans

    • @afspeellijstnaruto
      @afspeellijstnaruto 2 года назад

      @@delanee I know, and that is what i meant? With 'that' i referred to the Esper precon. I get the confusion though.

    • @delanee
      @delanee 2 года назад

      @@afspeellijstnaruto ah okay wasn't sure.
      For what it's worth as far as precons go it's pretty fun right out of the box and needs minimal upgrades to start running optimally

    • @afspeellijstnaruto
      @afspeellijstnaruto 2 года назад

      @@delanee yeah i do think you are right on that one. Add in some more 'venture into dungeon' cards and your are good to go. But ...i got like 40 decks at this point and i just (finally) bought a house. Need every penny i got atm XD

    • @delanee
      @delanee 2 года назад

      @@afspeellijstnaruto I actually went the other way with upgrades. Put in more cycling and discard enablers in order to proc sefris on everybody's turn which works quite well.
      Hahaha that's fair I've only got 8

  • @superfunforce8052
    @superfunforce8052 2 года назад

    👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Lvperlin
    @Lvperlin 2 года назад

    Looking for the remainder decklists

  • @Beldurkin
    @Beldurkin 2 года назад

    Ragaban + Monarch = Monkey D. Luffy, Pirate King

  • @seveneightlp
    @seveneightlp 2 года назад

    Ragavan seems so fun to play with, I wish I could afford him :(

  • @BetterCallKahl
    @BetterCallKahl 2 года назад

    It's 3 lands not 2....

  • @fenixmeaney6170
    @fenixmeaney6170 2 года назад

    Ah, mono color commanders
    Nice

  • @CesarLopez-mn1fo
    @CesarLopez-mn1fo 2 года назад

    Wait pontiff of blight has a white/black symbol on it for extort. I thought it was supposed to be mono black? Is that still legal to play?

    • @BoredAddict_
      @BoredAddict_ 2 года назад +1

      Iirc reminder text doesn't count towards color identity so it should be fine

    • @ujai5271
      @ujai5271 2 года назад +1

      Correct, Extort has White in the REMINDER TEXT, not the RULES TEXT. So it can be played in mono white or black decks.

    • @theotherguy4478
      @theotherguy4478 2 года назад

      There are two types of texts on Pontiff of Blight: rules and explanation. The explanation text is inside the parentheses. Any mana symbol part of the rules text is part of the color identity of a card. Any mana symbol part of the explanation text is not part of a card's color identity. So, Pontiff of Blight can be played in a monoblack deck.

    • @CesarLopez-mn1fo
      @CesarLopez-mn1fo 2 года назад

      Oh ok cool thanks for the explanation!

  • @niklasrombekker2998
    @niklasrombekker2998 2 года назад

    I hate being the guy but arbor elf is not allowed to lie with lands anymore :/

  • @stevenyuskowski1383
    @stevenyuskowski1383 2 года назад

    Wish I can play a basement game

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад

      Maybe one day!

    • @stevenyuskowski1383
      @stevenyuskowski1383 2 года назад

      @@MTGMuddstah got to try to catch you in Ontario. Now that gamerz is closed

  • @stefanjordan4770
    @stefanjordan4770 2 года назад

    2nd

  • @jessie38supercharged
    @jessie38supercharged 2 года назад

    commander is boring until the last turn when someone breaks out an infinite combo. Dumbest game that ruined magic.

  • @Andreasws24
    @Andreasws24 2 года назад

    Contamination 🤮