Thank you for the supply tip (video)! I was able to buy 3 cans + 2 spouts, current prices are a bit higher than when you bought them at 44.50 per can, but still half the local price. The time reference for those curious about stock - Ordered on 2022.07.07, they shipped out on July8 and arrived at my house in the US on the 13th. They had Green and Black 20L in stock, no Red except for the smaller volumes.
Took your advice and ordered 4 when they came back into stock. Next day they were sold out again. Got the fuel can so fast with FedEx and no tax. These cans are the real deal. Thanks!!!!!!!
I bought a couple of Midwest Jerry cans at Harbor Freight. They, too, were made by Valpro of Latvia. The difference is in the opening. Obviously, mine has the civilian neck. When I got mine, I applied some bedliner to the bottom. They'll never get scratched and rusted.👍
I'm another person who benefited from your research. Thanks for taking the time to share it. It's been close to 2 years since you posted this and the prices on these have gone up quite a bit, but this is still a better deal than anything I could find from the U.S. I had an absolutely great experience buying from Simply Bearings. I was going to get a 20L, which they had in either Green or Black- these were $45. Then I saw that that they have the 10L ones in Red, for not much more than half the price- $24. To me that was an better deal. Not only do I prefer Red for storing Gasoline (because I have occasionally run into gas stations that will not allow you to pump gasoline into anything other than a red container) and I find the 10 L ones to be much more useful. They are easier to move around, are much more stable to resisting tipping over, great to keep in the back of cars/trucks, and you can open and use them without exposing as much stored gas to air (moisture). You are also getting much more value, because if you look at the price of these cans here in the USA, one 10 L can is almost as expensive as one 20 L can. To get two of the 10L for almost the same price as a 20L is a great deal. Shipping was quite reasonable- about $25 for the two cans with a spout too. What really blew my mind was how quickly I got them. I ordered on Sunday night and had them in my hands on Thur, and I had selected the cheaper of two available shipping options! As far as the quality of the cans: Yes, they are clearly identical to Wavians (of which I have many). Wish I had learned about this dealer earlier. Thanks again!
Hey Wilfred. Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful reply. I agree with everything you've said and I can tell you're a man that values a well built and designed product. They have us a bit over a barrel here in the USA with bloated pricing on Wavian cans. You'd think they were gold lined. I'm also going to pick up some 5L and 10L cans from Simply Bearings for general use. Thanks again for the reply!
@@marcusthompson7417 You're welcome. The other thing I should have mentioned is how buying larger numbers of these can brings down the price. Those Red 10L ones have a special low price, and they do not give any discount for buying larger numbers of them, but the number you get has a considerable effect on shipping price. As you buy more, the shipping increases, but in very non-linear amounts. This is because they are based on weight. Obviously, if you add more cans, you get greater weight, but there are weight tiers that include a range of number of cans. If you happen to be buying the lowest number in that tier, you will pay the same shipping as you would if you got the largest number in that tier, so cost per can goes down to a point, then shoots back up again with more. For example, for the 10 L cans you can pay anywhere from $4.25 a can to as much $19.68 a can (all standard shipping). They had 56 of those cans in stock, and buying all 56 would not give you the cheapest price per can. That would cost you $6.71 a can. To get the lowest price ($4.25 per can) The magic number is 17 cans! For the 20 L cans, 11 is that magic number. That will get you a shipping charge of $6.58 per 20 L can. Simply Bearings also gives discounts for buying more cans (other than that steeply discounted Red 10L), so you can consider that as well.
@@WilfredForbert Seems you and I share the same mindset. If I had a reason to need 17, I'd surely buy to get that cost as low as possible. I suppose one could buy in bulk and just sell on ebay for way less than retail and still come out way ahead, but that's a lot of trouble. I can say that the 4 20L cans I ordered made it across the pound safe and "sound as a pound." They arrived in suitable sturdy boxes and were separated from each other inside the box with cardboard.
Still a viable option in 2024, making the purchase with Simply Bearings is a bit dodgey feeling.. but customer service, shipping/packaging and product are TOP quality. Got 2 10L to replace some plastic garden cans when I start long term fuel prep I’m certainly going this route. Thank you for sharing! Big thumbs up to you and Simply Bearings UK
They're a bit more now than 3 years ago, but then again so is everything else. Simply Bearings was a pleasure to buy from and their packaging was top notch. Glad you liked the video.
I used to have a WWII Jerry can, and it had a screw cap and spout which isn't EPA rated today, but it also had to withstand the pressure buildup when full of fuel. The can weighed more than the gas it contained, and I was glad when someone finally stole it! LOL, they left the spout behind, and without it, it is a gas spilling tank!
I was doing a lot of research before buying fuel cans and was about to order when i came across your vid. Thank you! With the waivian can going for $80pc on their site and 1950s era French surplus going for$26 , i paid $35pc plus shipping for 5 thru simply bearings. Not even the harbor freight edition, when available with different top are that well priced. Thanks again. 👍👊
I went back to the site looking to possibly pickup 5 more, buying 5 the price has gone up to $55.84 a can before shipping. Almost double. But still good, the wavian branded cans on another Brit site for land rover parts are only $50 can when you buy a set of 4 before shipping. Big increase in a year. Still half of what's online in US.
Doing research of my own I found the metal thickness (.09”) and the retracted weld line are the main differences. The cheap Chinese cans are about .06” thick and the welds are proud. They also have no coating inside.
D letter in stamp is most probably Deutschland, which is Germany. Thanks sharing this info for ALM. I'm searching from about a week which jerrycan is best, and so far found that Valpro is Wavian, but how many outthere are matching same quality as theirs is unknown. And yes they are pricey. Even here in EU hard to find them.
It's not the can, it's the spout. Damn the EPA. It's called a Jerry can because the British first encountered them in North Africa in WWII, they found these captured German cans much superior to their own cans. The Brits referred to the Krauts as Jerry. The Limeys referred to their can as the 'flimsy'.
After contacting Simply bearings, this was their response: Regretfully all 20L fuel can stock has now sold. Due to the production location of this item, we have been advised that there is currently no schedule for this item to go back into production. At this time only the 10L cans remain available.
Thank you for the tip on where to get these cans at a reasonable price. I ordered 11 cans and 3 spouts on 10/6/2022 for $553.25 (including the $16.11 foreign transaction fee). I received part of the order today (10/13). Was surprised to see some surface rust on the inside. Looked further with my borescope camera and I'm disappointed that my cans are not coated inside. I don't want them rusting when gas is store in them. After googling around, I see there are products to coat the inside of gas tanks (Red-Kote, Por-15, KBS & others). Does anyone have any recommendations?
Good information on jerry cans. If you have a lot of problems with power outages, why didn't you convert your generators to propane or natural gas (whichever you use in your furnace)? Most gasoline motors have kits to convert them to one or the other, and you can just hook them to your furnace supply. That is what they do with the larger backup generators intended for house power outages.
+ xenomenon Only difference I can see is these are advertised as 0.8mm, while Wavian/Val Pro’s are listed at 0.9mm, not sure how much of a difference that makes.
HOT TAKE HERE!!! but id bet the ALM are the wavians that didnt make it past a certain quality control. Probably 95% as good but they cant sell any sub par products with the wavian name.
You sure it wasn’t 32.65 British pounds…..? I just looked in the website--they are 32.25 pounds each, with multi-quantity discounts available. For 4 cans shipped to the US is would be $411 US dollars.
That number is not a nato number, it's the UN certificate for the can design. All containers approved for transport of dangerous liquids should have one. Never buy a fuel can that doe snot have one. D could be the country that issued the certification, in this case, Germany. There are currently 2 manufacturers of proper jerrycans, Valpro in Latvia and Gelg in Poland. While both are excellent, Valpro ones ar emade of thicker metal (0.9mm for Valpro, 0.8mm for Gelg), beefier welds on the handles, and better spouts(felxible tip or entirely flexible, vented, with integrated filter and with a convenient clip for storage on the can). They can be found under they own brand, under distributor brands (Wavian, ALM, Auto+, Oxid7, etc) or unbranded. They can be found with inner coating or uncoated (choice is yours, does not make a huge difference tbh), depending on distributor. To be sure you are buying Valpro-made can, check the code on the handle ends in "VP". For Gelg, I do not know if they sell under other (or no) brands, but their certificate number is embossed on the side of the can.
I apparently bought the last of the black 20L cans, they cost $56.25 USD per can shipped to the USA, I got the cans in just under a week. Thanks to @xenomenon for sharing this great deal on these cans.
Thanks for the update Mike. Unfortunately, the jerry cans at Harbor Freight (at least the one by my house) are the cheap Chinese knockoffs. Just holding and inspecting the genuine article and the fakes side by side show the many differences. I found a real jerry can at a decent price at the time and thought I'd share my discovery. It's unfortunate these ALM cans have gone up so much in price, but then again everything has in the past 3 years.
Thanks for the great video, i never knew about these but I love my wavians, I don't care if they say wavian on them as long as they are made the same. Just ordered 4! Thanks again!
Yeah, Wavian carries with it the "premium" moniker but really they're all Valpro made in the same factory in Latvia. Likewise, in Australia they're branded as Pro Quip jerry cans and they're also considerably less expensive. Like all things, us Americans get fleeced because they can get away with it. The trick is to find the same item under a different label from a vendor that ethically ships internationally. Plus you have the more "exotic" brand you don't see everyday that performs just as well. Glad I could help. Let me know your thoughts when you get them.
@@xenomenon Just sent a friend of mine over to the simply bearings website and he ordered 4 cans too. I'm pretty sure the 20 liters are sold out now. Maybe they should give you a commission or store credit or something Lol!
@@dgjrckstar Well, this video has been up since October of 2020 and just now getting any traction in RUclips's algorithm. My hope is they keep their prices the same given the increased attention and purchases from us yanks. I need a couple more small ones (5L and 10L) for lawn equipment.
@@xenomenon I thought that was odd that I hadn't seen this video, I did tons of searches back around the same time you posted it but it just now popped up in my que. I think I'm done buying cans unless something unthinkable happens Lol! I have 4 Wavians, 4 French surplus cans, circa 1950s and 4 Gelg cans. I wasn't super impressed with them, they are better than the China cans but they are not Wavians. I had to coat them with red kote because I could see heat marks from the welds through their coating on the inside. These cans were around $50 a can but then add $30 a quart for Red Kote and time to get a proper coat on the inside of the can and it pretty much negates any savings and you still have a less than perfect can. The French cans were all ugly and dirty on the outside but 3 of them were immaculate on the inside.. Either they were never used or re-coated on the inside. They were $27 each from sportmans guide.. They don't work with my Wavian spouts though, I just plan on transferring the fuel using a super siphon. The 4th french can had some internal coating issues that i had to clean and re-coate it but it's good now. They are sold out now too.I hope they keep the prices the same as well but time will tell!
@@dgjrckstar Quite a collection you have going. I don't have need for that much fuel; just enough to run some portable generators during power outages for a couple of days. These should perform the same as the Wavians. I did coat the bottom 1/4 of the cans with a couple of coats of Flexseal to give it a non-skid bottom and to protect the enamel from scratching down to bare metal. They won't be moved much at all except annually to cycle in new fuel and stabilizer, but just that sound of concrete on painted metal rubs me the wrong way and I think it looks cool.
I have seen Valpro cans in a local retail store, and the QC is NOT up to the standards of the Wavian cans I chose to purchase. They may have the same specs, but the Valpro cans I had in hand had imperfections that my Wavian cans do not. I suspect that the "D" spec refers to the color of the can. Black is the designated color for Diesel fuel storage in Europe as opposed to the Yellow that is used for Diesel in the USA.
@@_._._._._._ That would be redundant and misleading. These cans were not manufactured in Germany. They were manufactured by Valporo under contract in Latvia to NATO specs for sale in the UK.
Here's the response that I received from Simply Bearings Support about the can NOT have the internal coating. Thank you for your recent order and for your feedback on the goods and services received. Please accept my apologies that these goods do not fully meet the expected standard. We are surprised to hear that the cans are not as expected as they are Valpro cans, manufactured for UK distribution under license by ALM. I have contacted Valpro who have confirmed that a batch produced in late spring was produced without internal coating. They have advised that this was done in response to the production issues that were caused due to the steel shortage experienced at the start of the year which resulted in the fuel cans being unavailable for a long period of time. By making the decision not to coat the internal face, they were able to reduce production time and thereby make stock available to us. Valpro has further reiterated and assured me that for the storage of fuel and oil-based products, this coating is not necessary and its absence will not have any detrimental effect on the life span or capabilities of the can. We believe these rust spots may have been caused by the presence of moisture in the can during storage and shipping. I apologise for any inconvenience caused and trust these will still serve you well. Your Simply Bearings Help Centre Team Kind regards, Jessica Tanner www.simplybearings.co.uk Simply Bearings Ltd Halton House Greenfold Way Leigh Lancs WN7 3XJ Tel: 01942 269 837 Fax: 01942 605 420
Thanks for the info ... I'm gonna get two of those cans you have ... 1 or 2 spouts also. Now being I live in the communist state of NJ that doesn't allow me to pump my own gas ... I will have to paint the cans red or the idiots that work as gas attendants will not fill them with gasoline. I think I'll go with the black. Latest price for the 20 liter can is $47.25 pounds sterling which converts to $59.75 and the spout is 15.17 pounds sterling converted is $19.18 as of 06.22.2024 ... Is it easy to pay with a credit card ... the currency conversion?
You should be able to find Wavian jerry cans online, but you'll pay a premium. You might be able to find Valpro online for a bit less. From my research, you can't buy ALM jerrycans stateside. You need to order from the UK and have them shipped (if you still can).
Just receive [2] of the Black ALM FCB20 Fuel Cans like in your video. The interior of the cans were NOT coated or painted as indicated in the ALM specification sheet. The interior of both cans are unfinished steel. After a closer inspection with a remote camera, both cans were already rusting in some spots on the flat steel and in the seams. I sent pictures and video to Meagan and the Support Group at Simply Bearings. Not sure if Simply Bearings will offer a solution, but I'll let you know if they do. This is very unfortunate because the cans are very well made.
That's quite unfortunate. All mine were definitely coated on the inside and are holding up perfectly. Let me know what Simply Bearings says. I've found their customer service to be top notch.
@@xenomenon BTW I did goto the link you provided, and the company still has jerry cans, but unfortunately the prices have gone up to around $65/can for the 20L size (including tax&shipping); I have been able to buy them for that price in the states. However, they had 10L cans for $33/can (tax&shipping included), and I bought 3.
As is with the original ww2.. The seems welded around the jerry can needs to be countersunk or recessed so that the weld can't be nocked about & damaged then leak.. as stated in this video.. ruclips.net/video/uCEQGohuxy0/видео.html 1:37 mins in
So I just checked with Wavian, Valpro and ALM‘s website and both the Wavian and Valpro branded cans are listed as .09 thickness and internally coated for corrosion resistance the ALM can is listed at .08 thickness and I don’t see a listing indicating internal coating just externally painted . Can you confirm if the internal portion of the can is coated or just bare steel.
They've held up perfectly and as expected. bit.ly/3eIwtIO They're 100% genuine "Wavian" jerry cans with a different badge. Wavian and all it's mirror image brands (e.g. Valpro) are all made in the same factory in Latvia with the exact same specifications. I haven't had to use the fuel in them yet for my generators, but I have for the lawn mower and the interior lining is top notch. I'll be passing these down to my 2 year old. I HIGHLY recommend. I'm about to order a 10L and 5L for my lawn equipment (regular and oil mix). The 20L variety that I have in the video are currently £24.75 ($34.84) so they've only gone up by a couple of bucks, but that's only due to the exchange rate fluctuation. Shipping should be about the same, but what I paid ($43.48) was based on four 20L jerry cans along with a spout shipped to Arkansas. Hope that helps and let me know if you order and how they turn out. Cheers.
Don’t think people understand jerry can price.. I’ll explain.. if you found cheap jerrycans for under a hundred it’s because they’re brand new.. people who knows don’t like brand new jerrycans.. vintage cans that have ware and tear with few dents along with quality build is why they are expensive… people that mount shiny jerry cans on their trucks and Jeeps looks terrible.
I have another question I bought five of the cans like you did I noticed that the inside had a light surface rust in a few spots inside before I use them do you have any problem with rusting with your cans
Yeah, that's true for just about everything you can buy. Still waiting for my wages to follow suit. Funny how the American economy has an affect everywhere else.
Huh, you'd think the U.K., being industrialized and developed earlier than the U.S., would have the larger "first-world" markup. Also, I understand the need to make fuel cans inconspicuous, but I think a good thief would be aware of how damn much a good jerrycan costs, which is often more than the value of the fuel inside.
6-30-23 , cans cost $69.31 each. What a difference three years makes. Of course covid and inflation will be the blame for these things doubling in price. THIEVES. Me no want.
Man, I found this great video 2 weeks too late - bought the high priced Wavians. I'll be telling my family about these, though. Great idea about the coating. How is it applied? Looks like you got a really nice application with a straight margin. I do have the red cans, though. Does the flex seal come in fire engine red, also? I've never used it and am not much of a handyman. Have you done similar research on gasoline preservatives? Everybody has a favorite, but no hard scientific evidence on what works and what doesn't. There does seem to be a consensus that high octane ethanol-free gas stored in airtight metal cans with minimal air as you demonstrate, has the best shelf life before adding a stabilizer from what I can tell. I did subscribe, but then noticed your videos are mostly family related, so no offense but will unsub. Thanks for this great information, though! ATB! John
I use the PRI-G product as it's super concentrate and very highly rated/recommended. I just used 10 gallons of gas I treated back in Oct 2020 in my car and it performed perfectly. As far as the coating on the bottom, it's just Flex Seal in the aerosol can. I'm not sure about colors but you can get competitor products in different colors. One thing I can say is Flex Seal is not solvent friendly, that is gasoline will dissolve it so there's probably a better product out there anyways.
Thank you for the supply tip (video)! I was able to buy 3 cans + 2 spouts, current prices are a bit higher than when you bought them at 44.50 per can, but still half the local price.
The time reference for those curious about stock - Ordered on 2022.07.07, they shipped out on July8 and arrived at my house in the US on the 13th. They had Green and Black 20L in stock, no Red except for the smaller volumes.
Took your advice and ordered 4 when they came back into stock. Next day they were sold out again. Got the fuel can so fast with FedEx and no tax. These cans are the real deal. Thanks!!!!!!!
Glad you could make use of my discovery. Cheers.
I bought a couple of Midwest Jerry cans at Harbor Freight. They, too, were made by Valpro of Latvia. The difference is in the opening. Obviously, mine has the civilian neck.
When I got mine, I applied some bedliner to the bottom. They'll never get scratched and rusted.👍
I'm another person who benefited from your research. Thanks for taking the time to share it. It's been close to 2 years since you posted this and the prices on these have gone up quite a bit, but this is still a better deal than anything I could find from the U.S. I had an absolutely great experience buying from Simply Bearings. I was going to get a 20L, which they had in either Green or Black- these were $45. Then I saw that that they have the 10L ones in Red, for not much more than half the price- $24. To me that was an better deal. Not only do I prefer Red for storing Gasoline (because I have occasionally run into gas stations that will not allow you to pump gasoline into anything other than a red container) and I find the 10 L ones to be much more useful. They are easier to move around, are much more stable to resisting tipping over, great to keep in the back of cars/trucks, and you can open and use them without exposing as much stored gas to air (moisture). You are also getting much more value, because if you look at the price of these cans here in the USA, one 10 L can is almost as expensive as one 20 L can. To get two of the 10L for almost the same price as a 20L is a great deal. Shipping was quite reasonable- about $25 for the two cans with a spout too. What really blew my mind was how quickly I got them. I ordered on Sunday night and had them in my hands on Thur, and I had selected the cheaper of two available shipping options! As far as the quality of the cans: Yes, they are clearly identical to Wavians (of which I have many). Wish I had learned about this dealer earlier. Thanks again!
Hey Wilfred. Thanks for the detailed and thoughtful reply. I agree with everything you've said and I can tell you're a man that values a well built and designed product. They have us a bit over a barrel here in the USA with bloated pricing on Wavian cans. You'd think they were gold lined. I'm also going to pick up some 5L and 10L cans from Simply Bearings for general use. Thanks again for the reply!
@@marcusthompson7417 You're welcome. The other thing I should have mentioned is how buying larger numbers of these can brings down the price. Those Red 10L ones have a special low price, and they do not give any discount for buying larger numbers of them, but the number you get has a considerable effect on shipping price. As you buy more, the shipping increases, but in very non-linear amounts. This is because they are based on weight. Obviously, if you add more cans, you get greater weight, but there are weight tiers that include a range of number of cans. If you happen to be buying the lowest number in that tier, you will pay the same shipping as you would if you got the largest number in that tier, so cost per can goes down to a point, then shoots back up again with more. For example, for the 10 L cans you can pay anywhere from $4.25 a can to as much $19.68 a can (all standard shipping). They had 56 of those cans in stock, and buying all 56 would not give you the cheapest price per can. That would cost you $6.71 a can. To get the lowest price ($4.25 per can) The magic number is 17 cans! For the 20 L cans, 11 is that magic number. That will get you a shipping charge of $6.58 per 20 L can. Simply Bearings also gives discounts for buying more cans (other than that steeply discounted Red 10L), so you can consider that as well.
@@WilfredForbert Seems you and I share the same mindset. If I had a reason to need 17, I'd surely buy to get that cost as low as possible. I suppose one could buy in bulk and just sell on ebay for way less than retail and still come out way ahead, but that's a lot of trouble. I can say that the 4 20L cans I ordered made it across the pound safe and "sound as a pound." They arrived in suitable sturdy boxes and were separated from each other inside the box with cardboard.
Still a viable option in 2024, making the purchase with Simply Bearings is a bit dodgey feeling.. but customer service, shipping/packaging and product are TOP quality. Got 2 10L to replace some plastic garden cans when I start long term fuel prep I’m certainly going this route. Thank you for sharing! Big thumbs up to you and Simply Bearings UK
They're a bit more now than 3 years ago, but then again so is everything else. Simply Bearings was a pleasure to buy from and their packaging was top notch. Glad you liked the video.
Thanks for the heads up on these, ordered 7 of them. Came out to $45ish each and are exactly the same as my wavian cans. Thanks again
You betcha! Glad you found the video and ordered them. Mine are holding up perfectly! Cheers.
I used to have a WWII Jerry can, and it had a screw cap and spout which isn't EPA rated today, but it also had to withstand the pressure buildup when full of fuel. The can weighed more than the gas it contained, and I was glad when someone finally stole it! LOL, they left the spout behind, and without it, it is a gas spilling tank!
For quality and safety the 20L Jerry can is top, we in the uk 🇬🇧 always use them and recommend 😊
I was doing a lot of research before buying fuel cans and was about to order when i came across your vid. Thank you! With the waivian can going for $80pc on their site and 1950s era French surplus going for$26 , i paid $35pc plus shipping for 5 thru simply bearings. Not even the harbor freight edition, when available with different top are that well priced. Thanks again. 👍👊
You bet! Gotta reward the retailers that sell at reasonable prices.
I went back to the site looking to possibly pickup 5 more, buying 5 the price has gone up to $55.84 a can before shipping. Almost double. But still good, the wavian branded cans on another Brit site for land rover parts are only $50 can when you buy a set of 4 before shipping. Big increase in a year. Still half of what's online in US.
Doing research of my own I found the metal thickness (.09”) and the retracted weld line are the main differences. The cheap Chinese cans are about .06” thick and the welds are proud. They also have no coating inside.
Yeah those Chinese knockoffs are garbage.
Exactly right. 💯
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen. Straight and to the point and backed up with research. Great Job!
These are a very good price and good reviews. Plus, more you buy, the cheaper they get.
D letter in stamp is most probably Deutschland, which is Germany. Thanks sharing this info for ALM. I'm searching from about a week which jerrycan is best, and so far found that Valpro is Wavian, but how many outthere are matching same quality as theirs is unknown. And yes they are pricey. Even here in EU hard to find them.
It's not the can, it's the spout. Damn the EPA. It's called a Jerry can because the British first encountered them in North Africa in WWII, they found these captured German cans much superior to their own cans. The Brits referred to the Krauts as Jerry. The Limeys referred to their can as the 'flimsy'.
Good ole' wartime slang that exist still to this day! Thanks for the comment!
Valpro cans are sold as Pro Quip in Australia, they're ~AUD60 on sale (~40USD)
After contacting Simply bearings, this was their response: Regretfully all 20L fuel can stock has now sold.
Due to the production location of this item, we have been advised that there is currently no schedule for this item to go back into production.
At this time only the 10L cans remain available.
thank you!
Back up and running. Just placed an order for 2!
Thank you for the tip on where to get these cans at a reasonable price. I ordered 11 cans and 3 spouts on 10/6/2022 for $553.25 (including the $16.11 foreign transaction fee). I received part of the order today (10/13). Was surprised to see some surface rust on the inside. Looked further with my borescope camera and I'm disappointed that my cans are not coated inside. I don't want them rusting when gas is store in them. After googling around, I see there are products to coat the inside of gas tanks (Red-Kote, Por-15, KBS & others). Does anyone have any recommendations?
Good information on jerry cans. If you have a lot of problems with power outages, why didn't you convert your generators to propane or natural gas (whichever you use in your furnace)? Most gasoline motors have kits to convert them to one or the other, and you can just hook them to your furnace supply. That is what they do with the larger backup generators intended for house power outages.
I've considered doing that but we don't have THAT many outages . . . just once or twice a year. Thanks for the reminder though!
Atlantic British has good prices on Wavian Jerry cans. I recently picked up a 5 gallon and a 2.5 from there recently.
Just ordered a couple $44.27 USD each $33 shipping to US
How long was shipping? Get them yet?
@@josephottey1890 5of them $288 US with one nozzle. About a week and a half economy shipping.
Just ordered 10 and two spouts. Thanks for the video.
+ xenomenon Only difference I can see is these are advertised as 0.8mm, while Wavian/Val Pro’s are listed at 0.9mm, not sure how much of a difference that makes.
HOT TAKE HERE!!! but id bet the ALM are the wavians that didnt make it past a certain quality control. Probably 95% as good but they cant sell any sub par products with the wavian name.
Thanks god bless
The 100 hydrostatic pressure test is 100kpa which is 14.5psi NOT 100psi
You sure it wasn’t 32.65 British pounds…..? I just looked in the website--they are 32.25 pounds each, with multi-quantity discounts available. For 4 cans shipped to the US is would be $411 US dollars.
Yeah I'm sure. They must have raised their prices in the interim.
It is about 32 GBP. I got 5 of them and 1 nozzle $288US economy shipping.
Good info. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Glad it was helpful!
That number is not a nato number, it's the UN certificate for the can design.
All containers approved for transport of dangerous liquids should have one. Never buy a fuel can that doe snot have one.
D could be the country that issued the certification, in this case, Germany.
There are currently 2 manufacturers of proper jerrycans, Valpro in Latvia and Gelg in Poland.
While both are excellent, Valpro ones ar emade of thicker metal (0.9mm for Valpro, 0.8mm for Gelg), beefier welds on the handles, and better spouts(felxible tip or entirely flexible, vented, with integrated filter and with a convenient clip for storage on the can).
They can be found under they own brand, under distributor brands (Wavian, ALM, Auto+, Oxid7, etc) or unbranded.
They can be found with inner coating or uncoated (choice is yours, does not make a huge difference tbh), depending on distributor. To be sure you are buying Valpro-made can, check the code on the handle ends in "VP".
For Gelg, I do not know if they sell under other (or no) brands, but their certificate number is embossed on the side of the can.
Yeah I discovered the "D" was for "Deutschland" later on after the video was produced. Glad you concur and thanks for the comment!
@@xenomenon You can find all the certificates (BAM, TüV and NATO) on Valpro's website. :)
I don't see that they're available anymore.:/
I apparently bought the last of the black 20L cans, they cost $56.25 USD per can shipped to the USA, I got the cans in just under a week. Thanks to @xenomenon for sharing this great deal on these cans.
Twas my pleasure!
now jan 2024 they are 47.25 lb so $60 us. add shipping and no deal at all. go to harbor frieght
Thanks for the update Mike. Unfortunately, the jerry cans at Harbor Freight (at least the one by my house) are the cheap Chinese knockoffs. Just holding and inspecting the genuine article and the fakes side by side show the many differences. I found a real jerry can at a decent price at the time and thought I'd share my discovery. It's unfortunate these ALM cans have gone up so much in price, but then again everything has in the past 3 years.
Thanks for the great video, i never knew about these but I love my wavians, I don't care if they say wavian on them as long as they are made the same. Just ordered 4! Thanks again!
Yeah, Wavian carries with it the "premium" moniker but really they're all Valpro made in the same factory in Latvia. Likewise, in Australia they're branded as Pro Quip jerry cans and they're also considerably less expensive. Like all things, us Americans get fleeced because they can get away with it. The trick is to find the same item under a different label from a vendor that ethically ships internationally. Plus you have the more "exotic" brand you don't see everyday that performs just as well. Glad I could help. Let me know your thoughts when you get them.
@@xenomenon Just sent a friend of mine over to the simply bearings website and he ordered 4 cans too. I'm pretty sure the 20 liters are sold out now. Maybe they should give you a commission or store credit or something Lol!
@@dgjrckstar Well, this video has been up since October of 2020 and just now getting any traction in RUclips's algorithm. My hope is they keep their prices the same given the increased attention and purchases from us yanks. I need a couple more small ones (5L and 10L) for lawn equipment.
@@xenomenon I thought that was odd that I hadn't seen this video, I did tons of searches back around the same time you posted it but it just now popped up in my que. I think I'm done buying cans unless something unthinkable happens Lol! I have 4 Wavians, 4 French surplus cans, circa 1950s and 4 Gelg cans. I wasn't super impressed with them, they are better than the China cans but they are not Wavians. I had to coat them with red kote because I could see heat marks from the welds through their coating on the inside. These cans were around $50 a can but then add $30 a quart for Red Kote and time to get a proper coat on the inside of the can and it pretty much negates any savings and you still have a less than perfect can. The French cans were all ugly and dirty on the outside but 3 of them were immaculate on the inside.. Either they were never used or re-coated on the inside. They were $27 each from sportmans guide.. They don't work with my Wavian spouts though, I just plan on transferring the fuel using a super siphon. The 4th french can had some internal coating issues that i had to clean and re-coate it but it's good now. They are sold out now too.I hope they keep the prices the same as well but time will tell!
@@dgjrckstar Quite a collection you have going. I don't have need for that much fuel; just enough to run some portable generators during power outages for a couple of days. These should perform the same as the Wavians. I did coat the bottom 1/4 of the cans with a couple of coats of Flexseal to give it a non-skid bottom and to protect the enamel from scratching down to bare metal. They won't be moved much at all except annually to cycle in new fuel and stabilizer, but just that sound of concrete on painted metal rubs me the wrong way and I think it looks cool.
I have seen Valpro cans in a local retail store, and the QC is NOT up to the standards of the Wavian cans I chose to purchase. They may have the same specs, but the Valpro cans I had in hand had imperfections that my Wavian cans do not.
I suspect that the "D" spec refers to the color of the can. Black is the designated color for Diesel fuel storage in Europe as opposed to the Yellow that is used for Diesel in the USA.
D could also stand for Deutschland (Germany) which would connect to the BAM
@@_._._._._._ That would be redundant and misleading. These cans were not manufactured in Germany. They were manufactured by Valporo under contract in Latvia to NATO specs for sale in the UK.
Here's the response that I received from Simply Bearings Support about the can NOT have the internal coating.
Thank you for your recent order and for your feedback on the goods and services received.
Please accept my apologies that these goods do not fully meet the expected standard. We are surprised to hear that the cans are not as expected as they are Valpro cans, manufactured for UK distribution under license by ALM.
I have contacted Valpro who have confirmed that a batch produced in late spring was produced without internal coating. They have advised that this was done in response to the production issues that were caused due to the steel shortage experienced at the start of the year which resulted in the fuel cans being unavailable for a long period of time. By making the decision not to coat the internal face, they were able to reduce production time and thereby make stock available to us.
Valpro has further reiterated and assured me that for the storage of fuel and oil-based products, this coating is not necessary and its absence will not have any detrimental effect on the life span or capabilities of the can.
We believe these rust spots may have been caused by the presence of moisture in the can during storage and shipping.
I apologise for any inconvenience caused and trust these will still serve you well.
Your Simply Bearings Help Centre Team
Kind regards,
Jessica Tanner
www.simplybearings.co.uk
Simply Bearings Ltd
Halton House
Greenfold Way
Leigh
Lancs
WN7 3XJ
Tel: 01942 269 837
Fax: 01942 605 420
Thanks for the info ... I'm gonna get two of those cans you have ... 1 or 2 spouts also. Now being I live in the communist state of NJ that doesn't allow me to pump my own gas ... I will have to paint the cans red or the idiots that work as gas attendants will not fill them with gasoline. I think I'll go with the black. Latest price for the 20 liter can is $47.25 pounds sterling which converts to $59.75 and the spout is 15.17 pounds sterling converted is $19.18 as of 06.22.2024 ... Is it easy to pay with a credit card ... the currency conversion?
Where in th US can you buy these in the states? I looked and could not find them. Thank you
You should be able to find Wavian jerry cans online, but you'll pay a premium. You might be able to find Valpro online for a bit less. From my research, you can't buy ALM jerrycans stateside. You need to order from the UK and have them shipped (if you still can).
PK. I have a few.
Just receive [2] of the Black ALM FCB20 Fuel Cans like in your video. The interior of the cans were NOT coated or painted as indicated in the ALM specification sheet. The interior of both cans are unfinished steel. After a closer inspection with a remote camera, both cans were already rusting in some spots on the flat steel and in the seams. I sent pictures and video to Meagan and the Support Group at Simply Bearings. Not sure if Simply Bearings will offer a solution, but I'll let you know if they do.
This is very unfortunate because the cans are very well made.
That's quite unfortunate. All mine were definitely coated on the inside and are holding up perfectly. Let me know what Simply Bearings says. I've found their customer service to be top notch.
@@xenomenon I posted Simply Bearings' reply 2 days ago on a separate entry.
That stamp is not a serial number, it is a product number.
Product number. Good deal. Thanks for the clarification!
@@xenomenon BTW I did goto the link you provided, and the company still has jerry cans, but unfortunately the prices have gone up to around $65/can for the 20L size (including tax&shipping); I have been able to buy them for that price in the states.
However, they had 10L cans for $33/can (tax&shipping included), and I bought 3.
I feel your pain. Arkadelphia here.
How well are these cans paint or enamel coated on the inside to prevent rust? Thanks in advance.
They are coated with a special material inside that is solvent resistant so that fuel won't eat it away like typical enamel paint. Hope that helps.
Yes, coated.
Thank you for this link!
Do you know the diff in the fcg and fob can description?
I bought mine from Wish. Unfortunately, they only hold 5 oz.
Ooops! "Wishful" thinking.
As is with the original ww2.. The seems welded around the jerry can needs to be countersunk or recessed so that the weld can't be nocked about & damaged then leak.. as stated in this video.. ruclips.net/video/uCEQGohuxy0/видео.html 1:37 mins in
The “D” in the stamped product code likely stands for Deutschland…aka Germany.
So I just checked with Wavian, Valpro and ALM‘s website and both the Wavian and Valpro branded cans are listed as .09 thickness and internally coated for corrosion resistance the ALM can is listed at .08 thickness and I don’t see a listing indicating internal coating just externally painted . Can you confirm if the internal portion of the can is coated or just bare steel.
Mine were definitely coated with an orange/red material.
$72.50 per can. No Kidding. Thanks, Brandon.😎
How have they held up? Including shipping it looks to be about $60 now.
They've held up perfectly and as expected. bit.ly/3eIwtIO
They're 100% genuine "Wavian" jerry cans with a different badge. Wavian and all it's mirror image brands (e.g. Valpro) are all made in the same factory in Latvia with the exact same specifications. I haven't had to use the fuel in them yet for my generators, but I have for the lawn mower and the interior lining is top notch. I'll be passing these down to my 2 year old. I HIGHLY recommend.
I'm about to order a 10L and 5L for my lawn equipment (regular and oil mix). The 20L variety that I have in the video are currently £24.75 ($34.84) so they've only gone up by a couple of bucks, but that's only due to the exchange rate fluctuation. Shipping should be about the same, but what I paid ($43.48) was based on four 20L jerry cans along with a spout shipped to Arkansas.
Hope that helps and let me know if you order and how they turn out. Cheers.
Prices have gone up or something, they are way higher with shipping.
D could stand for deutschland (Germany )
Excellent. I hadn't considered that and you're probably right.
Don’t think people understand jerry can price.. I’ll explain.. if you found cheap jerrycans for under a hundred it’s because they’re brand new.. people who knows don’t like brand new jerrycans.. vintage cans that have ware and tear with few dents along with quality build is why they are expensive… people that mount shiny jerry cans on their trucks and Jeeps looks terrible.
Did you have to do any customs paperwork or any other red tape?
Im not sure but D maybe stand for deutcland whitch means germany in german
I think you're spot on that is D for "Deutschland."
I want to know if I could still get those cans for around the price that you got them for.
Currently, the 20L cans are $41. You'll need to pay for shipping but as I recall it was quite reasonable considering they're traveling from abroad.
I have another question I bought five of the cans like you did I noticed that the inside had a light surface rust in a few spots inside before I use them do you have any problem with rusting with your cans
@@ice4278 No sir. The can I received had a powder like coating on the inside and no rust. Interesting you're can differed than those I received.
They've almost doubled in price since this video was made in 2021. $32 to $60. Not such a great deal now in 2024.
Yeah, that's true for just about everything you can buy. Still waiting for my wages to follow suit. Funny how the American economy has an affect everywhere else.
Could you please verify the dimensions of the base
It's 6x13
Im getting them for 20 a piece here in Georgia
Excellent. Please share a link so the rest of us can enjoy that supreme value.
Still waiting on the mythical link..
@@notabot855 and the wait continues . . .
By the way that’s USD
Huh, you'd think the U.K., being industrialized and developed earlier than the U.S., would have the larger "first-world" markup.
Also, I understand the need to make fuel cans inconspicuous, but I think a good thief would be aware of how damn much a good jerrycan costs, which is often more than the value of the fuel inside.
Shine a flashlight on the can to get the name. silly.
Did you have to pay any customs fees?
No sir. Just shipping as I recall.
Whereabouts in central AR?
Little Rock area
North Little Rock, Jacksonville, Sherwood, Maumelle, Cabot, central AR. Tornado alley.
D for Deutschland = Germany.
6-30-23 , cans cost $69.31 each. What a difference three years makes. Of course covid and inflation will be the blame for these things doubling in price. THIEVES. Me no want.
Man, I found this great video 2 weeks too late - bought the high priced Wavians. I'll be telling my family about these, though.
Great idea about the coating. How is it applied? Looks like you got a really nice application with a straight margin. I do have the red cans, though. Does the flex seal come in fire engine red, also? I've never used it and am not much of a handyman.
Have you done similar research on gasoline preservatives? Everybody has a favorite, but no hard scientific evidence on what works and what doesn't. There does seem to be a consensus that high octane ethanol-free gas stored in airtight metal cans with minimal air as you demonstrate, has the best shelf life before adding a stabilizer from what I can tell.
I did subscribe, but then noticed your videos are mostly family related, so no offense but will unsub.
Thanks for this great information, though!
ATB!
John
I use the PRI-G product as it's super concentrate and very highly rated/recommended. I just used 10 gallons of gas I treated back in Oct 2020 in my car and it performed perfectly.
As far as the coating on the bottom, it's just Flex Seal in the aerosol can. I'm not sure about colors but you can get competitor products in different colors. One thing I can say is Flex Seal is not solvent friendly, that is gasoline will dissolve it so there's probably a better product out there anyways.
I tried watching your video but you’re so slow i just cant
Time is at a premium these days so I understand. Glad you took the time to share a comment though!