BRUTALLY HONEST REVIEW | Disappointing Swiss Economy Class from Cairo to Zurich aboard the A330-300!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
  • Swiss is considered one of Europe's most-premium airlines, but this flight simply does not hold up to their high standards. Let us show you why...
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    FLIGHT INFORMATION
    Airline: Swiss
    Aircraft: Airbus A330-343
    Registration: HB-JHM
    Flight Time: 3h 30min
    Seat: 28A
    From: Cairo International
    To: Zurich Kloten
    Date: June 2023
    EQUIPMENT INFORMATION
    Cameras used: iPhone 12 Max Pro, DJI Osmo Pocket, GoPro Hero 8
    Additional equipment used: GoPro Suction Cup
    PRICE BREAKDOWN
    Total Price: HUF 108,700.00
    Total Routing: BUD-VIE-CAI-ZRH-BUD
    Booked through: Austrian Airlines Website
    Cost includes: Economy Class Light Fare, without checked luggage and random seat assignment at check-in
    Booking made: May 2023
    VIDEO BREAKDOWN
    00:00 - Introduction
    01:18 - Transiting at CAI
    02:08 - Boarding
    02:35 - Cabin and Seat
    04:59 - Taxi and Take Off
    06:15 - Inflight Service
    09:20 - Inflight
    09:44 - Conclusion
    10:38 - Landing
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Комментарии • 278

  • @MegaGo68
    @MegaGo68 13 дней назад +308

    "Meal service included this bottle of water. The end." Hilarious!

    • @ScottRothsroth0616
      @ScottRothsroth0616 13 дней назад +8

      Rough timestamp: 6:21 .

    • @Yes_im.a-lordpeacock
      @Yes_im.a-lordpeacock 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@ScottRothsroth0616omg thx, i usually have to wait 15 minutes or depending on how long the video is to know what the comment is talking about.

  • @ZRHTrainspotter
    @ZRHTrainspotter 13 дней назад +90

    Totally normal Lufthansa Group Experience. That’s why i avoid the entire group like the plague! Turkish Airlines serves hot meals even on 2 hours flights. You could have flown them from Cairo to Zurich via Istanbul and you would have got a total of 2 meals.

    • @sga9365
      @sga9365 13 дней назад +13

      And Turkish will cost you half of the price that swiss does :D

    • @ZRHTrainspotter
      @ZRHTrainspotter 13 дней назад

      @@sga9365 exactly!

    • @Da__goat
      @Da__goat 4 дня назад

      Turkish is heavily subsidized by the government of genocide. Hard pass

    • @aselwyn1
      @aselwyn1 3 дня назад +2

      even on LH group Austrian you would have got a meal thats whats so stupid about this water/chocolate service

    • @samuelsurmik8018
      @samuelsurmik8018 14 часов назад +1

      I got a full breakfast (and I mean a yogurt, bread roll, jam, etc., not a panini) in economy on a flight with Turkish from Istanbul to Athens, which came to just about 50mins of flight time.

  • @Marcheteren
    @Marcheteren 13 дней назад +128

    Flown the Air France A350 last March from Paris to Cairo. This flight is considered a long haul flight with a full meal service, towel, headphones and all other amenities you can expect of a long haul flight. Really surprised that Swiss offers a service this poor

    • @fictorvincentiuspabeta1752
      @fictorvincentiuspabeta1752 13 дней назад +6

      I flew Royal Air Maroc last Nov from Casablanca to Paris , they served full meals I even pre ordered kosher meal , flight was about 3 hours .. can’t believe Swiss just gave a bottle of water !😭

    • @avgjoeavglife
      @avgjoeavglife 13 дней назад +1

      Yeah, Swiss should offer more.

    • @moskitofaser3699
      @moskitofaser3699 13 дней назад +1

      @@fictorvincentiuspabeta1752I flew Ryanair 6 hours I flew tap Portugal 4 hours and got nothing not even water. Don’t cry because you didn’t get anything on a fucking 3 hours flight

    • @hejbjarne
      @hejbjarne 13 дней назад +5

      ​@@moskitofaser3699 Ryanair is not a full service airline. They are low-cost. No one would expect a meal for flights costing less than 100€

    • @interstellaraviator6437
      @interstellaraviator6437 13 дней назад +4

      Air France is the best European airlines according to Skytrax. Together with KLM they are the only legacy carriers left in Europe not to charge extra for short haul on board service.

  • @ljupcokocarev6623
    @ljupcokocarev6623 13 дней назад +73

    Super disappointing. I just flew Korean Air from ICN to PVG, which is a 90-min flight, and got a full lunch with various beverages (non- and alcoholic too). European air carriers are just embarrassing at this point

    • @Teo95sero
      @Teo95sero 13 дней назад +6

      Eva air Flight from TPE to OKA, 50 mins basically, full beverage and snack service provided.

    • @amgaddroby8689
      @amgaddroby8689 13 дней назад +1

      How come they offer a whole different service scheme on the Tel Aviv flights; similar length, same equipment? Discrimination?

    • @emanoelchaves2793
      @emanoelchaves2793 13 дней назад +1

      I watched a flight report here on RUclips about a flight from PVG to ICN with China Eastern. Also with full meals served.

    • @harrisonhschan
      @harrisonhschan 13 дней назад +2

      Even Air Canada offers a snack and full non alcoholic beverage service on short flights, like YYZ to NYC or BOS... those are 60 minute flights
      (however, still no meals on their 10 hour YYZ to HNL seasonal flights...)

    • @KariHaruka
      @KariHaruka 9 дней назад

      I've flown Asiana Airlines from ICN to KIX, which is a 1hr 50 minute flight, and I received a full hot meal and drink service.
      Asian airlines are embarrassing their European counterparts.

  • @flyingboy8095
    @flyingboy8095 13 дней назад +12

    I absolutely get your point.
    In regards of the food availability: All Lufthansa Group Airlines organize their buy on Board service via a company called Retail in Motion.
    And it seems that they are just incapable of delivering enough products on board.
    It´s the same for Lufthansa and Eurowings (Austrian is not so relying on it).

  • @andremp03
    @andremp03 13 дней назад +45

    "Meal service included this bottle of water. The end."
    The way I laughed and then quickly sobered up

  • @samarth2491
    @samarth2491 13 дней назад +57

    Absolutely agree. Swiss has fallen in standard and I actually wouldnt mind flying easyjet from Zurich as there isnt much difference left between Swiss and other low-cost carriers.

    • @ZRHTrainspotter
      @ZRHTrainspotter 13 дней назад +7

      Exactly, well said! I recently took Easyjet from Zurich to Lisbon and got the same non existent service as on swiss, just 3 times cheaper.

    • @Holyspace305
      @Holyspace305 13 дней назад +1

      @@ZRHTrainspotteryou get a larger plane tho

    • @ZRHTrainspotter
      @ZRHTrainspotter 13 дней назад +3

      @@Holyspace305 depends. The A321neo i got on Easyjet is larger than the A220 used on swiss on the same day, but it all depends on the day

    • @Holyspace305
      @Holyspace305 13 дней назад +2

      @@ZRHTrainspotter I think if your flying longer routes to or from Switzerland then I think Swiss is still a better choice than low cost carriers as they mainly use a330 and Boeing 777 etc but if it’s short hauls routes operated by smaller planes yes probably not much difference

    • @Turbulencemode
      @Turbulencemode 12 дней назад +1

      while swiss has dropped off its miles better than low-cost. their a330s are rubbish though but in 2 years theyll have new a350s.

  • @itspaul3792
    @itspaul3792 13 дней назад +22

    16 CHF for that ? 😭😭😭 in the mean time Thai, Bangkok Airways… serves a full meal for a 50 min flight between BKK and PNH 😭😭😭

  • @christianbayerstein5243
    @christianbayerstein5243 12 дней назад +4

    Zurich to Cairo like Frankfurt to Cairo or to the Canary Islands is usually served by shorthaul planes like the Airbus A320 with European Style Business and Economy Class without IFE, that is Lufthansa group standard. And in a shorthaul plane you get shorthaul service according to Lufthansa logic. So passengers could feel extremely happy that they at least got longhaul seat comfort and even First class and real business class seats on your flight 😂😂😂😂.

  • @ahmadzahid266
    @ahmadzahid266 13 дней назад +9

    My shortest flight 38 minutes it’s been served bottle of water and juice, 1 hour flight have snack service with Saudia in economy
    3 hour flight of Swiss like flying with LCC, it’s like no specific service for mid haul flights just short and long haul service

  • @magnustan841
    @magnustan841 13 дней назад +5

    That level of service is really surprising, almost shocking really. European full service airlines need to understand that they must provide a nicer offering instead of trying to cut cost to compete with budget juggernauts like Wizz and easyjet. Give people more of a reason to choose them. I live in Asia and the full service carriers here absolutely deliver on that. I can always count on getting some hot refreshments and a full beverage service even on 90min flights. Europeans deliver on comfort, but that needs to extend to catering too. However, i’m still compelled to try SWISS because other reviews rate them admirably.

  • @NoahB-te9on
    @NoahB-te9on 13 дней назад +12

    Because of the lack of service and in their a220 and a320 fleet tight legroom I don't see a point flying them, even as a Swiss inhabitant. I can fly easyjet, vueling and other for a much cheaper price with same legroom and cheaper additional bag. For example Zurich Malaga and return with Swiss is often 400 Swiss francs with vueling direct flights are often 150 both without checked bag. Why would I still fly Swiss? Also on routes to Asia I rather fly Singapore airlines or other Asian carriers for better prices with better service and cabin.

  • @TheAmazingallan
    @TheAmazingallan 13 дней назад +18

    I had a similar experience on a BA flight between Istanbul and London. 4 hours and all they offered was a bottle of water and a little thing of cookies. As a US based flyer, I was shocked by the lack of options on such a long flight and it's given me such a bad impression of BA.

    • @ZRHTrainspotter
      @ZRHTrainspotter 13 дней назад +8

      Turkish airlines on the same route serves a hot meal and unlimited drinks, inflight entertainment and more

    • @nickbiskinis4854
      @nickbiskinis4854 13 дней назад +1

      BA is ok for short haul and goodish at long haul but has no medium haul concept for Istanbul, Athens, Cairo, Amman, Larnaca or Tel Aviv

    • @Holyspace305
      @Holyspace305 13 дней назад

      @@ZRHTrainspotterthe one problem I had with Turkish airlines was that the staff at the gate in istanbul airport were a bit rude when I was flying back to Hong Kong back in 2022 July when we have to get all the Covid requirements checked

    • @ZRHTrainspotter
      @ZRHTrainspotter 13 дней назад

      @@Holyspace305 oh, likely they were stressed with these COVID regulations. Luckily those times are over now 😃

    • @Holyspace305
      @Holyspace305 13 дней назад +1

      @@ZRHTrainspotter I also remember some people boarding that plane weren’t able to speak English fluently maybe that’s why the staff got annoyed😂

  • @parmentier7457
    @parmentier7457 13 дней назад +3

    I had a short KLM Citihopper flight from Cork to Amsterdam. Although not a complete meal, we did receive a can of soft drink or wine of choice and a sandwich. Then coffee or tea. But if you wanted more you could just ask and the KLM flight attendants would just give it. But you had to ask quickly, because the flight attendants were already busy cleaning up everything and preparing for landing.

  • @minzhichen2094
    @minzhichen2094 16 дней назад +16

    I would say this flight is ok-ish considering my British Airways flight from London to Cairo last Christmas. BA's flight is longer (4 hour plus) while passengers are still stuck to the european-configured plane - most seats have not very good legroom and do not recline just like a low cost carrier. Sure BA offers cold sandwich and drinks but I would happily trade food for a better seat.

    • @alexmcwhirter6611
      @alexmcwhirter6611 13 дней назад

      BA has deployed wide-body aircraft on this route in the past. Suppose demand has not returned since the issues of a few years ago, followed by the pandemic.

    • @nickbiskinis4854
      @nickbiskinis4854 13 дней назад

      BA has downgraded a number of previously medium haul intercontinental routes to short haul with the standardised model of no real catering

    • @alexmcwhirter6611
      @alexmcwhirter6611 13 дней назад

      @@nickbiskinis4854 Absolutely. Much will depend on the economic situation and the value a destination can bring to the BA network (in terms of 6th freedom traffic). I mean just look at London-Moscow which some years ago used to be served by 747-400s with Club World seating (back then London was classified by Russioans as "Moscow on Thames" !).

    • @nickbiskinis4854
      @nickbiskinis4854 13 дней назад +2

      You are right. In fact widebodies on eg Athens, Tel Aviv and Larnaca partly reflected the transfer connections via London Heathrow to North America but also at times inherent demand and cargo. Tel Aviv has shunted between short haul and long haul several times historically, whilst Larnaca at one point was 'Intercontinental' (technically Cyprus is in Asia). The difference was that within 'short haul' BA did nuance and vary its product - so that the longer routes had at one point films and music with headphones as well as hot food. I think many (myself included) assumed BA would use 787s to replace the 767s on some high density medium haul routes

  • @sasharenier9900
    @sasharenier9900 13 дней назад +4

    Even low cost airlines in the US like Southwest and JetBlue offer snack and drink service on hour-long flights. Swiss really needs to step up

  • @DevBoyjonauth
    @DevBoyjonauth 16 дней назад +13

    Thanks for another great trip report David. The interior of the A330 looks very good. The catering options however leave a lot to be desired!

  • @danielschwarz6432
    @danielschwarz6432 13 дней назад +1

    Flew between Phuket and Bangkok on Bangkok Airways, 65 min flight. Warm meal, drinks and free lounge access. Economy class. But then again its Asia.

  • @FastGuy1
    @FastGuy1 16 дней назад +20

    I cant wait for the Condor business class video :D

  • @enfantterrible4868
    @enfantterrible4868 13 дней назад +1

    i think the Thompson Vantage Seats and the Recaros look amazing and super retro, which is lovely.

    • @fared___3409
      @fared___3409 9 дней назад

      Are. The newer recaro seats have quite thin padding than the older one.

  • @taherebeid1721
    @taherebeid1721 13 дней назад +1

    So the flight took place in June 2023 - usually Swiss flies their A320series to Cairo so expect a different hard product too. Gone are the MD11 and A340 full service flights which were the best to/from Cairo during the 2000s and 2010s…

  • @mylhodoppenberg
    @mylhodoppenberg 15 дней назад +1

    Very curious about the next videos coming up 🙏🏼

  • @TheBudgetTraveller786
    @TheBudgetTraveller786 12 дней назад

    Took Swiss from ORD - ZRH, economy meal service for the pre landing meal was a orange juice container (the same type I saw served with public school breakfasts) and yogurt.

  • @babacarfall3972
    @babacarfall3972 11 дней назад

    Love your videos man, what do you use to edit videos?

  • @eclaireurspatial
    @eclaireurspatial 13 дней назад +3

    Well, a 3hr flight = short-haul = no service on most LHG airlines. I guess the widebody A330 gives the feeling that one should expect long-haul service.
    Swiss has waaaay longer short-haul routes, on narrowbody aircraft, within Europe, that also don't get any complementary service. EG; ZRH-LPA that is blocked at almost 4.5hrs on an A320.
    Do I agree with this?
    No - they position themselves as a "premium" carrier, but they have been far from that because all of the cost-cutting and service reductions that have been going on.
    Nothing but a complimentary bottle of water and chocolate on a flight of this length is just pathetic and very NON PREMIUM.
    In the meantime I got full barservice and a decent snack on a 45minute flight from DOH to DXB in economy. Lol

  • @spikeytop8982
    @spikeytop8982 13 дней назад

    I flew First class from Singapore to Zurich in March 2023 and it was abysmal. The two male stewards were conspicuous by the absence all flight and had faces like a slapped arse. Whatever had pissed them off, it wasn’t me. On boarding I wasn’t even greeted before being told my seat was broken and they were trying to get an engineer to fix it as it was set in a reclined position. I was told that if it could not be reset and as the plane was full I would be bumped to another flight. When I said I am travelling with my wife the stewards answer was, her seat is ok! They wanted me to travel by myself and thought this was acceptable. They soon understood it wasn’t. After 30 min the seat was reset so panic over. The flight and service was poor, the staff were really miserable and had clearly had the smile gene removed at birth. The food was average and because it was an overnight flight the crew were not to be seen for long periods at a time. The cabin its self is dated and the flight was far from a first class experience. I will never fly with them again. To make matters worse they lost our baggage for 5 days, it was a nightmare trying to speak to their customer service. When it was found they expected us to collect from the airport, we would not expect accept this so they finally relented and delivered the cases to our home. It arrived filthy and damaged.

  • @Nadia1989
    @Nadia1989 13 дней назад

    That happened to me in a flight from Amsterdam to Madrid on Iberia Express. I was at the middle of the plane and they had ran out of everything, not even water.

  • @aviatormike128
    @aviatormike128 13 дней назад +1

    I would love if you could try Malaysia Airline’s new economy and business product coming this November!

  • @nomissimon5587
    @nomissimon5587 13 дней назад +3

    Lufthansa Flights to Larnaca is even worse - the same service on a 4 hour flight in an A320 or A321

    • @ZRHTrainspotter
      @ZRHTrainspotter 13 дней назад

      They also fly A320 to Amman and Baku and Tehran, no service either! 🙈

    • @AlTaJr61
      @AlTaJr61 13 дней назад

      WOW! I flew that route decades ago and they had Full Service in Economy

  • @bennnnn264
    @bennnnn264 13 дней назад +1

    hope your going to try Emirates new A350 when it enters service later this year.

  • @510ghostboy
    @510ghostboy 13 дней назад

    I think it depends on the route! A more demanding route from the west coast to Zurich is better equipped

  • @kaushikghosh257
    @kaushikghosh257 13 дней назад

    Really nice videos on this channel. Looking forward to your future vedios.

  • @kelpoboss2391
    @kelpoboss2391 13 дней назад

    Interesting they don’t offer free catering. Air France offers catering on a 3.5 hr flight to Beirut, so ig AF is the better option?

  • @user-cw9gc7bs1u
    @user-cw9gc7bs1u 13 дней назад

    For a three hr flight you expect food unless it’s a budget airline,you get a full service from Auckland to Sydney and other cities in Australia which is around 3 hrs even air no is going back to full service across the Tasman people expect it

    • @erezhofshi5512
      @erezhofshi5512 8 дней назад

      In my opinion, on flights of less than 4 hours serving food is simply unnecessary. Food you buy at the airport before the flight is usually with higher quality than the food on the flight itself.

  • @minhyuklees1bebe902
    @minhyuklees1bebe902 11 дней назад +1

    i used to religiously watch simply aviation videos like 8 years ago when i was in middle school, now i'm in university and i'm back to watching again kkkkkkk

  • @mxyzptlyk
    @mxyzptlyk 13 дней назад

    I remember flying Swissair (way before it went Tango Uniform) many times in the 1960s on the Convair CV990 Coronado and SE210 Caravelle between Zurich and Manchester (MAN). The meal was a hot dog - a hot bun and a cold sausage. Yum!

  • @semsemeini7905
    @semsemeini7905 10 дней назад

    I flew from Cairo to Geneva on Swissair on July 1st, 1956 on a Douglas DC-7. We left at midnight. In those days no table trays. Meals were served on pillows. Breakfast was served at the Athens Airport restaurant. We were supposed to return on September 1st but canceled our return. Terrible service. I believe Egyptair serve a meal. So it's like in the USA flights to the Caribbean. Most European airlines like British / Swiss only serve water. ITA serves a beverage which is fabulous. Wow I flew on their Airbus 220 to Zurich from Llubjana.

  • @SaadSuglatwala-ms7cj
    @SaadSuglatwala-ms7cj 13 дней назад

    Yes this is the normal Swiss plane. Flew Swiss 3 times, Zurich to Mumbai. Mumbai to Zurich and Zurich to Chicago. All of these routes have this same old layout. Swiss needs a refresh!

  • @bahgat.4085
    @bahgat.4085 11 дней назад

    Great video once again! Would like to see you make many more flight reports about routes between cairo and other destinations because i get the feeling that these flights get treated in another way than routes to other places

  • @ngocthaingo94
    @ngocthaingo94 13 дней назад

    Last year I was really disapointed flying the same route as you with Swiss, even worse that the A330 that I flew did not have the IFE screen.
    Last month I flew with SQ from Singapore to Ho Chi Minh City, just a 1h50 flight but SQ offered us a full service with complimentary hot meal.

  • @lucaspinto83
    @lucaspinto83 13 дней назад +2

    I like your videos because they are always straight to the point

  • @catpillowws
    @catpillowws 13 дней назад

    Love when videos are almost uploaded consecutively .. :D

  • @augustine6290
    @augustine6290 13 дней назад

    Great video as always!

  • @sushi777300
    @sushi777300 4 дня назад

    I love the narration ❤😊
    It makes it much easier to focus on the footage instead of the subtitles

  • @chrownshiown
    @chrownshiown 13 дней назад

    Flying SWISS on long-haul routes is a great experience in my opinion. I just flew on ZRH-SIN and it was probably one of my best economy experiences ever. Unfortunately, on short-haul routes SWISS, and the entire Lufthansa Group for that matter, has become a very sad affair. Self-proclaimed "Premium-Airlines" should offer a full beverage selection as well as complimentary snacks or meals (depending on flight length) on EVERY flight.

  • @JTsJourneys
    @JTsJourneys 11 дней назад

    I’m not sure how I feel about this… if it was a narrowbody I think I’d be comfortable with the service offered. Widebody almost implies you expect a full service. I’m not sure where to draw the line between ‘short haul service’ and ‘long haul expectation’ but 3.5 hours might be a bit shy? Perhaps those 4.5 to 5 hours plus maybe I’d expect a fuller service although as you say compared to Austrian it’s a big miss. Ex eu we kind of expect a long haul service (especially from London +5hrs)

  • @adityabenwal
    @adityabenwal 13 дней назад +2

    Three hours without food.... Better to eat a lot in the lounge.

  • @criollo
    @criollo 13 дней назад

    If they sell the flight and they regularly operate this service, then it is representative. Just because this doesn’t represent your standard European Swiss flight, it is a business decision that affects people in on this and on other less high profile routes.

  • @brodietaym8475
    @brodietaym8475 13 дней назад

    Honestly not surprised. Flew SWISS business class in 2012 & again in 2015 & found the service incredibly mediocre. Crew did the absolute bare minimum & the catering was minimal & similar in quality to economy class of some other airlines. Yet, SWISS' business class fares are consistently MUCH higher than their competitors on the same routes even today.

  • @tomislavzlojutro399
    @tomislavzlojutro399 День назад

    That’s weird that you mentioned that sister airline Austrian airlines offer food on board flights that are 3h long (at least)
    Me & my partner flew in March from Sevilla to Vienna and were not given food. Complementary soft drinks and a small chocolate before landing, despite it’s a 3h 20 long…

  • @yonatanpaz5348
    @yonatanpaz5348 10 дней назад

    The flights from ZRH to TLV includes light meal

  • @the_flight_explorer
    @the_flight_explorer 13 дней назад

    Very nice and interesting tripreport video 😮✈️

  • @mnakib2610
    @mnakib2610 13 дней назад +2

    Swiss offers same type of meal “service” in flights to/from Beirut… Disastrous 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @johnnyturco1017
    @johnnyturco1017 13 дней назад

    Fantastic review. Ugggh, I need this to be my life. There is a serious deficit of me sitting inside of airliners.

  • @coyotelong4349
    @coyotelong4349 13 дней назад +2

    I mean it’s a Swiss service, you’d expect there to be some holes

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 13 дней назад

    Excellent trip report David! Given that I get free snack and drink selection on a 65 minute 50 Seat Jet American Eagle flight, only offering water on a three hour flight is flat out ridiculous.

    • @AlTaJr61
      @AlTaJr61 13 дней назад

      1 Biscoff cookie or a small packet of Pretzels is NOT a Snack,lol.

  • @jamie_oliver_913
    @jamie_oliver_913 8 дней назад

    I flew several times on there leisure carrier Edelweiss from ZRH to Edinburgh (Scotland), Seville (Spain) and Heraklion in Greece, which are all shorter then Cairo to ZRH. On Edelweiss flights in economy class, you always get a Meal and beverage service on short and medium haul flights, except alcohol you have to pay for it which is ok. Lufthansa Group is great getting you from A to B, but otherwise its terrible, and they only concentrate on making a bigger profit every year, instead of improving there service a lot more which is a real shame.

  • @SwissSpotters
    @SwissSpotters 7 дней назад

    It is a real shame that the (most of the) Lufthansa Group cut all the services in the Economy Class a couple of years ago because "customers supposedly wanted it that way, so they can decide on their own what they want to order". Sad that SWISS didn"t say no to it and continued the way it was before. Good review! Hope the water was at least good 😂

  • @cristianboldisor1175
    @cristianboldisor1175 10 дней назад

    Swiss has changed over time. The same thing applies to Austrian.After Lufthansa bought them out,they have become more like a budget airliner, or at least this was the impression I got. Probably, this was done in purpose, so they do not compete against Lufthansa.

  • @Jimmy-Mc
    @Jimmy-Mc 13 дней назад

    I would definitely agree they at least need sodas and pretzels, or an equivalent snack, for a 3 hour flight. Other than that, the plane looks comfortable.

  • @travellinman382
    @travellinman382 13 дней назад

    On a one hour Thai Airways economy flight, I was recently served shrimp fried rice and a beverage.

  • @raymondzhang2496
    @raymondzhang2496 День назад

    I flew VIE-IST last on Turkish last April, a flight that was under 2 hours (shorter than this one), and received a full meal, so it is really surprising that LX provides such miserable catering.

  • @cornellpaulmanatad4289
    @cornellpaulmanatad4289 13 дней назад +2

    idk if it's only me but i'd always enjoyed watching brutally honest rather than normal trip report💀💀

  • @MultiSUPERLATIVO
    @MultiSUPERLATIVO 13 дней назад

    In my humble opinion, considering a wide variety of vlogs that I have been watching on YT, the only carriers that possess what one would call "standard of service" are Asian airlines, namely: Singapore Airlines, Asiana, Japan Airlines, ANA, Cathay Pacific and Eva Air. I would also include Malaysian Airlines, Emirates, Etihad and Korean Air with some restrictions.

  • @phillipmaguire4671
    @phillipmaguire4671 13 дней назад

    Not sure if Egypt Air fly the same route, but I wonder what their service is like on a similar length, compared to Swiss. Certainly is very disappointing to see only a bottle of water provided on this flight. It's the Lufthansa group and I don't think they are that good anymore.

  • @jonathanmayor3942
    @jonathanmayor3942 13 дней назад

    Just flew from New York to Geneva after taking an 767 from United to go there…
    The cabin was old in a 2011 build a330 compared to the older 76 ; the pitch was small, the entertainment was old and no universal power 😢
    As a Swiss, I’m pretty disappointed about it, and flying to Newark on the way in was the best thing ever; we were 5 tourists at customs and maybe 300 locals… So as tourists fly United cause they have a retrofitted cabin and a lot more pitch 😅🙌

  • @voytek_blehash
    @voytek_blehash 13 дней назад

    fully agreed, I flew with them recently from Newark to Zurich and it was soooooo disappointing, this is not the old good, generous, hospitable SWISS, smells more like easyjet....

  • @EgonWi
    @EgonWi 13 дней назад

    Just recently was on a SWISS economy flight from Hongkong to Zürich.
    The food was so bad I sent back all of it fir the fist time.

  • @byfire_gaming
    @byfire_gaming 13 дней назад

    I flew on their A330 economy to Beijing back in 2017, it was very good i remember, sad to see this right now

  • @daniello1
    @daniello1 13 дней назад

    Now check this out. LH flight frmo MUC to Canary Islands (4h30) - I was offered a 250ml bottle of water. That's all.

  • @skamouk
    @skamouk 13 дней назад

    Lufthansa and Austrian have the same service to and from Amman (not far from Cairo)

  • @josefblasini5253
    @josefblasini5253 13 дней назад

    Servus! I flew Egyptair from FRA-CAI-FRA coming from Salzburg. The meal service was excellent and the food like in the old days. Egyptair just a bit chaotic on the ground but very good inflight service. The I flew SWISS from ZRH to Montreal and it is just VERY basic.
    I had better and friendlier flight crews on Easyjet and believe it or not on Ryanair on spanish domestic flights.The LHGroup is in an identity crisis. Keep your great videos!!

  • @TomP115
    @TomP115 13 дней назад +1

    Sad to see how service on "premium" European airlines has declined, it seems like they have really fallen behind compared to US carriers. Even on a 1 hour flight with Southwest I get a choice of beverages and a little snack. No point flying Swiss, Lufthansa and the likes at a premium price when you get the same service level on Easyjet and Ryanair.

    • @marko_ys
      @marko_ys 13 дней назад

      Even AA - perhaps the worst value airline here in the US - will offer Biscoffs and a full non alcoholic beverage service. The only reason to fly “premium” European carriers vs. LCCs within the Continent is to connect to a long haul flight.

  • @Frankie_1211
    @Frankie_1211 День назад

    It’s sad watching the downfall of Swiss, Flew them from Boston to Zurich in 2019
    Was amazing, Hot towels multiple meal services not a cheap breakfast I try avoiding Lufthansa group entirely now they have ruined Swiss and I am glad ITA never went through with joining them disastrous

  • @ayah1andsky2kidsofficalcha93
    @ayah1andsky2kidsofficalcha93 13 дней назад +1

    New simply Aviation video today

  • @harrisonhschan
    @harrisonhschan 13 дней назад

    Full meal isn't necessary but not having a beverage service really sucked.
    Even 6 hour domestic flights in Canada don't have meals... but I guess they have a nonalcoholic beverage service

  • @MattProud
    @MattProud 12 дней назад

    I live in Zürich and have flown Swiss a bunch over the last 17 years. The quality of care they put into their service even for economy used to be very good. But the last four years have been scandalous with nickle and diming (extra quality of service tiers), diminished quality of service for the given tiers, outsourced customer support, etc. Swiss International Airlines is not worthy of having the word "Swiss" in their name anymore - eine Schande. Straight Lufthansaifizierung. And I don't say that because any of their fleet is dated.

  • @ylilin
    @ylilin 13 дней назад

    As a Swiss citizen who has to fly to JFK six times a year form ZRH/GVA.. I can't tell you how tired I am of these A330s.
    Also, the Swiss has been lying for about 4 years now about a refurbishment program.

  • @komeshgeo
    @komeshgeo 13 дней назад

    Now for the very fun part: an economy class passenger on FRA-TFS, a 5hr flight, gets a bottle of water, while on DXB-MUC, a 6 hour flight, there is a hot meal after takeoff, a sandwich before landing and drinks including alcohol. Makes sense, doesn't it?

  • @erezhofshi5512
    @erezhofshi5512 8 дней назад

    This is a trend that characterizes all European airlines, when it is not long haul service. When you have competitors like easyjet, price is a key parameter for most passengers, so in order to be relevant they offer minimum service model.
    And don't compare it to Turkish Airlines that is heavily subsidized by Erdogan and especially the manpower is much cheaper.

  • @Fxraz
    @Fxraz 13 дней назад

    i'd say this fits more of a trip report style video than a brutally honest video
    i really liked your old trip report style videos with the 5 second intro and text all throughout. i especially want to see a video uploaded very often like that. don't get me wrong your brutally honest videos are great but i feel like you should keep a balance between frequent uploads and high quality videos.

  • @Pranav-Chaparala
    @Pranav-Chaparala 13 дней назад +2

    Can you please try to do Qantas Airways long haul product next please qantas airways brutally honest would be a really exciting review so can you please review their 787 dreamliner or A330.

  • @Tuukkohakee
    @Tuukkohakee 13 дней назад

    But 3 hours IS short haul tho, and this level of service completely fits the standard for short haul in Europe. Sure Cairo is not in Europe, but expecting complementary service on a 3 hour flight is just not the standard on European airlines. Running out of buy on board tho is bad.

  • @justpf
    @justpf 13 дней назад

    There’s absolutely zero reason to choose SWISS over any other airline today that offers cheaper fares. The only reason they’re still afloat is that nostalgia over the good old days and LH baking them up.

  • @sieben4016
    @sieben4016 13 дней назад

    die Frage ist auch wie lange flight swiss noch nach Cairo jetzt wo egyptait ach zürich kommen

  • @davidgirgis6299
    @davidgirgis6299 8 дней назад

    Funny how you mention that swiss doesn't offer a 3 hour meal service
    I flew on the exact same route back in 2017 on their a220 and they only offered a small sandwich..not surprising!
    My mom also flew this same route not too long ago and she told me that she experenced the same issue..

  • @HB45175
    @HB45175 13 дней назад

    Switzerland apparently didn't get the memo that Africa is in fact a different contintent.

  • @sergejskubraks2454
    @sergejskubraks2454 13 дней назад

    they offering cold cuts box for breakfast in biz actually

  • @niklasgermann
    @niklasgermann 13 дней назад

    Thank you for that video! Would love to see a 3rd Color introduced in the Thumbnail for these narrated- but not animated videos. Blue for just text and red for the full experience. Would be amazing :)

  • @worldtraveler84
    @worldtraveler84 4 дня назад

    Thats wild! Not even some complementary pretzels???

  • @LimaSierra609
    @LimaSierra609 13 дней назад

    Hi David, have you heard of Air Japan before ? It is a brand new Japanese airline that operates under the All Nippon Airways (ANA) group. Rival of ZipAir. It primarily handles charter flights and wet-lease operations, providing services to other airlines, including some routes for ANA. Air Japan mainly focuses on international flights (to Thailand, Singapore, etc). If you have a chance to try out Air Japan, that would be fantastic! Thanks in advance.

    • @simply_aviation
      @simply_aviation  13 дней назад +1

      Yes, of course! :) And I have a flight booked with them for July! Hope to post the video in the second half of this year!

    • @LimaSierra609
      @LimaSierra609 13 дней назад

      @@simply_aviation I cannot thank you enough, David.

  • @aminonmiles8054
    @aminonmiles8054 13 дней назад

    Swiss Economy class seats on A330s are a torture machine. Try it on a Montreal-Zurich red eye.

  • @LordShadow593
    @LordShadow593 9 дней назад

    I flew on a Vueling A320n from Amsterdam to Palma (2,5 hours), and even though its a low budget airline, they offered a BETTER service for HALF the price. The return journey back to Amsterdam on Transavia 737-800 was a similar story.
    This shocking Swiss in-flight service is nothing short but a complete and utter disaster

  • @cordial
    @cordial 12 дней назад

    The flight is 3 hours long. This service seems standard to all airlines.

  • @gunvaldsandhaland7757
    @gunvaldsandhaland7757 13 дней назад

    I Havent Have A Bad Fligth Whit Swiss.Great Video And Info

  • @user-fq6os1ub2v
    @user-fq6os1ub2v 13 дней назад

    If you flow with egyptair to geneva instead of zurich you would have had a much more enjoyable experience but its planned that in july egyptair will beggin service to zurich

  • @Nathan_Bower
    @Nathan_Bower 10 дней назад

    SWISS flies the A330 on this route?! I'm very surprised. Is there a high demand between the two cities?

  • @stephanz9770
    @stephanz9770 13 дней назад

    By eliminating complimentary catering, Swiss can save a little bit of money, but the resulting damage to its reputation is considerable. How can this be worth it?

  • @tompathepr0
    @tompathepr0 12 дней назад

    Just by curiosity. I flew with Austrian from Marrakesh to Vienne last year in economy and got 0 service. No snack offered complimentary. Is this route not a inter-continental route? If Cairo is inter-continental for Austrian, surely Marrakesh sould be aswell.

    • @simply_aviation
      @simply_aviation  12 дней назад

      I haven't flown aboard Austrian to Marrakesh yet, but everything I know and am able to find points to them offering complimentary service on this route. Their website says paid drinks and snacks are only offered on flights up to 3 hours while the block-time to RAK is 4h 05min (www.austrian.com/at/en/faq-austrian-melangerie ), and their snack menu has a map of destinations to which only paid service is available, where Marrakesh isn't pictured (www.austrian.com/content/dam/austrian/global/documents/fly/austrian-melangerie/Melangerie_single-pages-web-version_OS.pdf ).
      Maybe your flight was a charter flight, for which standard service proceedure does not apply, or Austrian changed their service to include Marrakesh now. It's also possible you misremember or slept through the service, or that Austrian's website is wrong. Can't tell you the answer for sure.

    • @tompathepr0
      @tompathepr0 11 дней назад

      @@simply_aviation Thanks for the answer and the research!

  • @jordanalexander4331
    @jordanalexander4331 13 дней назад

    Egypt air will give you a full meal from Cairo to Zürich.