Thank you so much for this. What I cannot understand about Finale, and I've been using it for years, is why they make us jump through hoops to do something that is needed so frequently in music. Practically every other piano score I create has a tie to a second ending or a coda!
You're very welcome! Yeah, there are several frustrating things about Finale. That's actually one of the main reasons I started this channel: to help people solve those frustrations. Things like this should be built-in, though. Anything else that frustrates you with Finale?
This is a great tip (and a great channel). As a composer, I've learned it is smart to create scores that simplify information used by the conductor or performer (in many cases that means eliminating almost all repeats and using additional rehearsal numbers). HOWEVER - in this case, I would have adjusted the first ending so that it spanned two measures (in your example mms4-5), and then created a second ending that was also two measures (in essence adding a new mm 6 (duplicate of mm4) and then the resolution of the suspension as shown). Using that technique, the tied notes cause no problem for the performer, the conductor, nor the typesetter.
Great ideas! Totally onboard with all those thoughts. In general, I also tend to avoid repeats because they tend to cause issues when sight-reading, rehearsing, and sometimes even when performing. In this case (like you mentioned), it makes total sense to expand the repeat to two measures. The only times I've ever needed to manually create ties like this are 1) in a large ensemble, 2) changing the sizes of the repeat endings would cause awkward phrasing (e.g., 3-bar endings in an 8-bar phrase), and 3) when only a few instruments are still tied over.
Hey! There another thing you could do, and that is (for Mac users) Shift + the key you use for ties, which for me would be T. So, Shift + T. The only problem is that it only works on the first measure of a staff
Yep, this works. I've found it doesn't work 100% of the time in either Simple Entry or Speedy entry (hence the video). But when it does work, using Shift + T is the easiest way by far.
Yep, that was applying music spacing. cmd+4 or ctrl+4 is note spacing (what I use) and cmd+5 or ctrl+5 is beat spacing. Just highlight the region you want to apply the spacing to then hit the keyboard shortcut.
Thank you so much for this. What I cannot understand about Finale, and I've been using it for years, is why they make us jump through hoops to do something that is needed so frequently in music. Practically every other piano score I create has a tie to a second ending or a coda!
You're very welcome! Yeah, there are several frustrating things about Finale. That's actually one of the main reasons I started this channel: to help people solve those frustrations. Things like this should be built-in, though.
Anything else that frustrates you with Finale?
Could not have said it better myself!
Hey thank you for this, but when you play the section with the playback it doesn't sounds like a tie! :(
This is a great tip (and a great channel). As a composer, I've learned it is smart to create scores that simplify information used by the conductor or performer (in many cases that means eliminating almost all repeats and using additional rehearsal numbers). HOWEVER - in this case, I would have adjusted the first ending so that it spanned two measures (in your example mms4-5), and then created a second ending that was also two measures (in essence adding a new mm 6 (duplicate of mm4) and then the resolution of the suspension as shown). Using that technique, the tied notes cause no problem for the performer, the conductor, nor the typesetter.
Great ideas! Totally onboard with all those thoughts. In general, I also tend to avoid repeats because they tend to cause issues when sight-reading, rehearsing, and sometimes even when performing.
In this case (like you mentioned), it makes total sense to expand the repeat to two measures.
The only times I've ever needed to manually create ties like this are 1) in a large ensemble, 2) changing the sizes of the repeat endings would cause awkward phrasing (e.g., 3-bar endings in an 8-bar phrase), and 3) when only a few instruments are still tied over.
Hey! There another thing you could do, and that is (for Mac users) Shift + the key you use for ties, which for me would be T. So, Shift + T. The only problem is that it only works on the first measure of a staff
Yep, this works. I've found it doesn't work 100% of the time in either Simple Entry or Speedy entry (hence the video).
But when it does work, using Shift + T is the easiest way by far.
nice! thanks!
Hi! What did you do at 3:04? A music spacing? What is the shortcut key? Thanks!
Yep, that was applying music spacing. cmd+4 or ctrl+4 is note spacing (what I use) and cmd+5 or ctrl+5 is beat spacing. Just highlight the region you want to apply the spacing to then hit the keyboard shortcut.
@@nickmazuk Thank you !
How about for slur?
cant do this with chords still, just like laissez vibrer (let ring, lv)
Cool!
This doesn't seem to work if you have multiple banks with identical channel numbers. e.g., Bank 1, Channel 4, Bank 2, Channel 4