Inside the secret race to find a successor for NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2024
- Jens Stoltenberg's contract has been extended numerous times and he has been NATO Secretary General for almost a decade. Now he's expected to pass the baton to his successor at an upcoming summit in Washington DC to mark NATO's 75th anniversary.
But the next Secretary General must first secure unanimous support within the alliance.
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Why are there so many comments about wanting someone with a ''militairy background'' as Secretary General? Yes that person is gonna be the face of a milirairy alliance, but the job has barely anything to do with militairy decision making. The Secretary general is the chair of major committees and the international spokesperson, a job much more resembling (and suitted for) an ex-Prime Minister/experienced diplomat, than a high ranking General/Admiral or Minister of Defence.
because this pussyfooting within nato has to stop. have clear lines and show clear deterrence
because they dont know NATO has a Military Chief.
@MrSandman96 btw that "Military Chief" you mention, a.k.a. chair of the NATO Military Committee, is also Dutch (admiral Bauer) for the moment, but his term of three years is almost up, so I don't think we will end up with two Dutchmen at the head of NATO. I am Dutch myself, but I would not advice to go totally Dutch for NATO ;) We need fair representation of all member states. If you go down one step in the military hierarchy you get the Supreme Allied Commander Europe. This position has always been held by a US miitary officer. You might have been thinking of that guy (general Cavoli).
Gender should have no bearing on the job, but I do agree it should be from a country that has been taking their defense spending seriously and meeting that 2% minimum.
It's women who say it needs to be a woman, that is all. It should be based on qualifications, not gender.
It should be a veteran who knows the pain of war.
It should be Taylor Swift
my bet is on someone either; female and / or from a eastern European country or none white.
A country's defence spending doesn't make its national a better leader, besides Estonia may spend relatively more of its GDP than the Netherlands, but does it spend in absolute terms more than the Netherlands? I don't think so, I found that the Netherlands spent 19 time more than Estonia in 2021!
I vote for the news anchor guy. He seems perfect--- he's likable, and fair, and intelligent, and has a certain gravitas.
Or Taylor Swift
@@ericp1139fuck no
😂😂 But has he nerves of steel like Jens.
I am heartily sick of people wanting women to do this or that job because no women has done it before. What an insulting position. Give the job to the best person for it and if that happens to be a woman so what? You can claim men and women are equal claiming women should get an advantage.
Feminism never was about equality, it always was only about power.
What she will do in case of war with Russia? .
Here, here! Liberals and affirmative action supporters insult the very people they recommend for the job based on anything but qualifications. This female reporter demonstrates the problem! Most likely, she was given the important slot at NATO based on her sex which she intends on getting more women positions in slots based primarily on their sex instead of being the best qualified for the job. Liberal and progressive activists never learn from the destruction decades of affirmative action hiring has caused to the people the classes of people they promote as well as the institutions and companies enduring such foolishness.
@@mistressfreezepeachit was about equality when it started.
@@Chips569 nope.
"He is a likable guy,.. No one apposed to him... Knew how to deal with different leaders.. No one want him out so they don't rock the boat as everyone trusted him" talking about Stoltenberg, that is genuinely a great and impressive leadership qualities right there! would be great if I could be called and remembered the same as him at my work field! 😆
He was just a good dude. The life of the party, and he always knew how to chug a beer.
he's not even a leader of anything he make speeches, hold no authority or power, just handle paperwork lol easiest job I know
@@PepeCoinMania Well probably not the easiest, since you can't even handle grammar.
I respect Jens Stoltenberg's skills and intellect. While he rightly deserves credit for his successes, he must also own his failures too. Every American President since President Eisenhower, especially President Trump, criticized NATO countries's consistent failure to fund their own national defense by at least 2% of GDP. In 2014, all NATO countries recommitted to this minimum 2% GDP defense spending and yet only 11 of the then 31 NATO countries fulfilled this commitment.
@@506thparatrooper He can't force any countries to meet the threshold of 2% of GDP for defence. He can only try to persuade. A lot of countries have many domestic economic problems and the leaders of those countries have to make sure they are re-elected first, their population being more concerned with their own immediate personal needs rather than the future security or defence needs.
Seeing trump little brother "Boris johnson's name and pics being mentioned had me rolling, just Imagine boris as nato chief 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Boris Johnson is the main suspect 😂
Peace will never be an option
This is a work event!
I like it. Our enemies will see his hair and think "better not mess with NATO while that guy is in charge, he´s got to be a freaking lunatic!
As a Norwegian I did not like Jens as a politician, but as head of NATO he has done an excellent job!
Are you serious he is the most corrupt person in the world. He’s take money from the oligarchs
of course, loss in Ukraine, flight from Afghanistan, future conflicts in Yemen-Iran, Korea, Taiwan, Venezuela
@@pomka24 That's not on Jens, he has worked hard to get NATO members to corporate and support Ukraine more than they initially wanted.
The problems are countries like Germany that are to scared of their past and are to passive in the support for Ukraine and the build up of their own army.
Norway are neighbor to Russia but we have still contributed a lot more to Ukraine than example Germany
@@TheJensssI like what you did there Mr stoltenburg. Maybe try going by a different alias next time
@@pomka24 Afghanistan, Yemen, and Taiwan are American projects. Venezuela and Korea are not related to NATO at all.
Rutte is a hardliner against Russia 👍👍
That`s it!@@et2709
He also destroyed our military, we do not spend 2%, and above all he is a LIAR!
@@et2709 Disallowing Russia to once again work to forcibly bring sizable parts of the European continent under its control is not the problem. Russia is not the only country in Eastern Europe or Europe as a whole with the right to ensure their own defence and security. We should not accept Russia's view that neighbouring countries and even the EU are lesser entities in that regard.
@@et2709Russia actually IS the problem. Incursions in Ukraine since 2014, actually invading in 2022, fighting to this day, AND regularly threatening to impose Russki Mir on more & more currently independent nations! Of course Russia under putins' aggressive expansionist policies are indeed the problem.
@@et2709 you live in the west? maybe side with us. When the bombs fall on your house they are not from Nato.
Dont let him go! He is so NATO!
Stoltenberg is Great NATO secretary, he doesn't need to be replaced now.
He is an amazing Guy! ❤❤❤
why is great? give me 2 reasons
Jens STONE berg is one of the best NATO secretary.
He work tirelessly supervising members to unite during crises happening in Europe.
A stone man..
Ben Wallace would make a brilliant nato chief
Rubbish
NATO Must select a good leader of NATO..like the outgoing Strong and goodman with principle NATO chief Jen Stoltenberg..Godbless You Sir
Shoud of been Ben Wallace.
He was Genuine, Honest ,Fair, Trustworthy and Kind.
He would of done a great job .
He lacked the experience of being a PM.
Select NATO leader should be fair, understanding on both sides of play.
4:12 - Energizer bunny, but the sentiment of the remark was clear enough.
Mark Rutte of the Netherlands likely holds the strongest cards
If you want a real continuation: URSULA. She is enough genocidal.
Who will be the next clown..
for most of my young adolescent life Stoltenberg has been the face of NATO, everytime NATO is mentioned I always see his face.
All the warmongering and cooked up wars to sustain the blood empire nkt lol
Because NATO and USA are aout of money, NATO is collanpsing, Germany if on the edge of the cliff-
@@PavolFilekBiggest nonsens of the day:). Maybe you country, Pavol…
Cool story bro
@@gideongiggie5017 Blah, blah, blah... go take your "anti-West Ego Trip" elsewhere please?
NATO has saved "millions" of lives with the actions of this organisation.
Now that is something, to fly with fighter jets escorts everywhere you go is prestige like the US president.
Biden might be available soon.
Biden has no problem destroying the whole world.
it needs one that wants no expantion drift but a strenghten drift....
As Estonian, I truly hope that it won't be Kaja Kallas. Just to name a few reasons: She is from a corrupt political family (her farther, Siim Kallas allegedly stole millions during the first years of Estonian independence), her husband continued doing business with Russia despite the sanctions and she definitely is not the sharpest pencil in the box
bS she is clearly very smart and hawkish against Russia. We do not bear the burden of our forefathers otherwise everybody has a debt to pay.
Allegations are not facts. Unless you have proof of her father's theft, it is mere rumour. If her husband still does business with Russia, then he should face whatever legal/criminal charges brought to him. She should not have to pay for his sins nor her father's.
case of raking through the kompromat held
Ben Wallace would do a good job. Defense minded.
No Brexiteer from the Brexit party sorry.
@@gaborrajnai6213 Who cares, done is done. Stop whining and get on with it.
Britain can make its own future. Not like they haven't done it before.
@@gaborrajnai6213 The UK outside the EU with Ben Wallace as Defence Secretary acted much faster than the EU when Orkistan invaded Ukraine. Individual EU countries from the former eastern block also reacted quickly, but the 'major powers' took months to react in any meaningful way. The UK were flying NLAWs directly into Ukraine avoiding German airspace in the days prior to 24th Feb 2022. Please don't confuse the EU with Europe, the UK is part of Europe and will defend Europe.
@@gordonmac3616 You confuse UK's role with NATO's role. UK can send arms and weapons to any country without having to consult other nations. NATO can't make any decision, however major, unless agreed to unanimously by all its members. Having a British person heading NATO is not going to change that - it is embedded in the NATO Charter. Look at what Turkey and Hungary have been doing regarding Sweden's membership to NATO.
@@MTMF.london I was not comparing UK to NATO if you read my comment properly. The UK reacted very quickly as did several former eastern block countries within the EU. Some of the larger militaries within the EU and NATO, most notably France and Italy, by comparison, have provided very little. The EU as a whole have been constrained until recently by Orbans Hungary for almost two years.
Because, you’re always under fire
No one wants to clean up the mess he has created.
Why bother cleaning up? NATO is about creating mess.
The mess was made by your Russian daddy, comrade.
5:50 what? why would everyone get the same vote? Not everyone brings the same value.
What kind of Value? USA doesnt need any of the NATO members militaries its all strategic and not let them get taken by Russia or anyone else. The Baltics and Finland make up a huge border with Russia but the Baltics dont have much to offer other than that. Sure Finland has a large military but its nothing amazing tbh. The UK is valuable right? No they are waaaay under what they need to spend their military is very disfunctional. Same goes for most of the other NATO members for one reason or another. So Back to it, what value?
Other puppy 😂😂
Latvia exPrime minister Krisjanis Karins have Latvia and USA citizenship. Latvia spend more then 2% of GDP for defense.
Can’t he stay longer?
Military language “ you are dismissed “
next after Rutte should be Mitsotakis
Anyone else think that the male reporter looks a bit like the character 'Sportacus' from the tv-show 'Lazy Town' played by the actor Magnús Scheving?
Only stand like them😊
It's not hard. It's gonna be Kaja Kallas, PM of Estonia.
I dont care either way. As long as its someone who keeps a calm and clear head and gets along with everyone enough. Male, female, east, west, north, south, center
Gets along with people, at what cost?@@Redisia
Democracy has decreased around the world for the last "17 years..." because we are not prepared to fight for it, like we should be!
As an American I believe David Cameron would be a good guy for the job
It should be Oprah
@@sebastianwritesso what u think they should do build a coalition to discipline does that don’t follow democracy .
Becuase they made such a mess that nobody is ready to come and clean up. The person shoild also be a submessive person with no own opinion
Tell me what mess they made. Fyi, it wasn't NATO that promised NATO membership to Ukraine, it was the US.
Russia is the instigator and thus the one creating the mess, support for Ukraine is an individual thing, NATO is just monitoring the conflict as a potential security threat.
Think Norway are happy that he stayed. They recruited Nicolai Tangen to manage oljefonden instead of Stoltenberg. Very competent man.
They recruited Tangen after Stoltenberg could not take up the post as his position as SG of NATO was extended again.
Duracell bunny. Lol
They should spend more.
i cant believe von der leyen is in the running for this job, how is someone so incompetent so regarded ?
She's excellent!
It's your judgement which is off?
@@sebastianwrites No serious geopolitical expert agrees with you.
@@sebastianwrites She's insane!
It's your judgement which is off?
She’s a descendant of the Albrecht family, so she’s political royalty.
Her incompentence is what US needs.
Ms. Von der Leyen is the best choice. We will have ecological army. Without tanks, because they didn't pass CO2 emotion. Not even horses as we can't abuse animals.
He must be a very good yes man like Stoltenberg
Surely the recently redundant PM of Finland, Sanna Marin, should be in the running, as a Pro-NATO (signed Finland up), former Head of Government, who exceeded NATO's 2% of GDP mandate, is from an eastern european country, with a long land border with Russia, and last time i checked the Wiki, still a Women.
She has zero military or technical background, and would be a huge disaster. This is a hard job to pick up as you go...
Its gonna be hard to replace Him. Boundless energy
He totally underestimated Russia, he is an incompetent
@@bfyrth i dont see it that way at all. He is Just the Chairman of all the NATO members… not the Boss. The members… All of them, are responsible for the present state of NATO
@@bfyrth He did not. Russia has already annexed Crimea before he was appointed. He was the one who tried to get NATO members to up their defence spending afterwards and tried to get more military support to Ukraine. US, France and Germany were the leading countries who either ignore the threat or underestimated the Russians.
Kaja Kallas is NATO heroine for sure. She is already called the war princess.
But her husband does business with Russia.
3 percent of nothing is still nothing. Estonia doesnt even have a military jet. And Kallas is a nobody, she is playing her barking from her well heated luxury appartment.
Our Dutch prime Minister Mark Rutte is in the Race..
Someone from small countries to get all responsability for war....
To jest Rotchild.
Tak trudno zrozumieć.
Retain outcomes and legacy because Bavaria still still still
Let Orban suggest a Russian candidate.
Why do he resign his BOSS position?
Rutte is the only one that can deal with Trump if reelected.
We hope its not de formal Dutch premier!!!
He wins every debate.
I think David Petraeus should take the job.
Because he did such a bang up job in Afghanistan and Iraq?
Trudeau's available, and he comes with his own wardrobe.
I wonder how the F16 fleet would look with a pink paintjob.
@@gaborrajnai6213 Pink would look nice.
Hire Ben Wallace. Smart and has integrity.
RS. Canada
Taurus
I could do it!
Hi Gavin
Does it matter? The decision is made in Washington anyway, whoever took up the post is a mere speak person. Let's not pretend otherwise.
The focus on 2% GDP is so ridiculous. Estonia could spend 100% and would still contribute only half as much to European defense as Germany does, who everybody is shitting on although they are the third-largest contributor to NATO.
So why is it ridiculous?
GDP is the only way to compare the effort each individual country makes. We all sacrifice 2% of our wealth for our mutual security…
@@EuropeanOnion Erm, what? Have you ever heard of absolut spending?
It makes total sense to limit smaller countries like the Baltic states to about 2% because expecting them to spend tens of billions on defense would be insane. But insisting that countries like Germany or France who are already the biggest European contributors after the UK, with Germany spending twice as much as Italy in 4th place, should increse their defense budget to meet an arbitrary goal is equally insane. Especially when they are treated as if they didn't contribute anything.
If Germany would actually spend 2% of its GDP that would be a quarter of what ALL Eurpean NATO members pay together.
@@trnogger yes. I have heard of absolute spending.
But like you explain yourself (you contradict yourself there I think): It makes no sense to compare a Baltic euro to a German of French euro. Richer countries pay more for our mutual defence.
Mind you: Putin isn’t afraid of the Dutch armed forces or the Baltic armed forces. He is afraid of the combined German, French and Brittish armed forces.
That is why they came up with that 2%. As arbitrary as it may seem. 2% is what the founders back then agreed upon as a minimal standard that everybody could agree on. That percentage makes it easier to compare countries.
Now, I totally agree that what counts towards that 2% is arbitrary. That would be a worthwhile discussion.
Pensions for retired army personel should be deducted and even VAT should be deducted.
Or give NATO (or for those in the EU the European Comission) a discission what the European defence force should look like. Have countries pay for that defence force through their EU-contributions as a form of burden sharing. But European national governments are not for that step yet.
Until that time 2% remains a good measuring stick.
@@EuropeanOnion Yeah, no. This is exactly the problem with the 2%-"rule", people like you not knowing where that even came from.
First, there never was such a rule "by the founders". When NATO was founded, it was shortly after WW2 and the European nations were still getting used to the idea of letting Germany have an army at all and France was still on the fence of being a part of it.
During the cold war, Germany spent 2,5 to 5% of its GDP on military, but after the Cold War ended, many European countries reduced their armed forces as the threat had reduced, only the US drove up its spending to move into the power vaccum that the fall of the Soviet Union had left - that wasn't even about defense.
When Russia and China became competitors to the US again, the US suddenly started complaining that they were spending so much money while Europe did not and under pressure from the US, the 2% were set as a long-term ambition, that was only about a decade ago.
But the European economy, especially for Germany and France, grew much faster since then than anticipated, and while both countries spend more than was the goal back then, they are still below the 2% line because the GDP grew so fast. In actual numbers, Germany has more than doubled its military spending over the last 20 years.
But insteead of everybody admitting that the 2% were only arbitrary and that economic conditions have changed, under Trump the US started another bout about "the US is paying for European defense" (actually, the US spends only a tiny fraction of their military budget on European defense) and so the 2%-ambition was sold as a 2% commitment.
That is the real story. It's all just Americasn populism.
@@trnogger I knew most of what you wrote but yes. You are right and I was wrong. The 2% was not agreed upon by the founding countries but was agreed upon in 2006 (according to the NATO website).
Nevertheless if you want to compare efforts that countries make you will have to agree upon a standard. And that is why they agreed upon that 2%. That is what you wrote. That is what I wrote.
2% of GDP means that richer countries with higher GDP pay more.
The German defence budget has more than doubled but that doesn’t mean much if the budget was - for historical reasons - to low to begin with.
Now you can argue about the 2%. Define what counts towards it. But I still have not heard a case for absolute spending when it comes to comparing countries.
That UN Secretary General had a very difficult job that I would not take for any salary !
Stoltenberg should go to jail!!!
Oh great they have already decided it have to be some Tatcher type tough woman who feels she have something to prove to men... How about we pragmatically choose the most qualified and experienced person for this very serious job, whoever that may be? Just a suggestion...
We need strong man no doubts.
If it needs unanimous support, I cannot see a decent leader being approved while Turkey, and especially Hungary, are in the alliance
Was not allowed to leave? Stop with the jokes.
Nobody likes Jens. See if he can even give a public speech anywhere in the EU or US without massive protest.
Orban would be great in that role
🤣🤣🤣
I think it should be Andrzej Duda, after he completes his term as President of Poland.
It will replace him
The want to place Von Derlayen
Rumen Radev! ❤
Yep it’s difficult to find the loyal liar.
Please let it NOT be Mark Rutte as he has continuous "I can't recall" issue (in other words.. he has a habit to forget important conversations)
me
Donald Duck would make a much better job! 😂😂😂😂😂
US should not determine EU business
The US is also a NATO member.
nd no one remembers the residents of the Free Republics of Donbass, the residents of Crimea... They only think about the Kyiv junta, which seized power in 2014
Jen should stay amid a turmoil world with Tyrant Putin in lunatic trigger happy mood!
Why is Putin one of the best presidents to be a tyrant?
HOW HE STILL BE A GENERAL WHEN HE LOST UKRAINE/NATO WAR? NEVER HEARD HIM PROTESTING AGAINST GOING AGAINST RUSSIA.
Whoever will, makes no difference.
The guy needs to chill out and retire.
Excellent reporting. Sober neutral realistic journalism is what we need. 👌
who pays you for this comment?
If that's sober reporting, I sure hate to see what you call drunk reporting.
Quisling.
The US must be having trouble finding such a loyal toady as Stoltenberg.
Yes, Vlad.
Rutte is a loyal lapdog as well. Has no own opinion at all.
Just not canada.
I thought about Canada.
Ben Wallace would be a good candidate
I vote for Me 😂
Why not let AI take his job?
Hey uh just a quick reminder. As a german i have to say, please do not choose any of our politicians. They are all untrustworty. Thanks.
General Jack Keane
Estonia Prime Minister- Kaja Kallas gets my vote.
I won’t miss this miscreant. He treated a military alliance as if it was a political party. Each member needs to act in the best interest of the alliance as a whole. All he did was make excuses and enable bad actors.
Talk to those members to see if they understand that they need to act in the best interest of the alliance. It is not his fault some of those members turn out to be snakes.
Who else than ME to replace him 😂
I already got the job
IS ILSA,THE SHE WOLF ON THE LIST ?
Danish PM Mette Frederiksen is an excellent candidate for the job. She made some strong decisions during the pandemic and she was one of the first state leaders to send weapons to Ukraine. She was also able to calm Trump down when he got mad because she refused to sell Greenland to the USA. She is also a Bilderberger. I think she is a good choice. I am Norwegian and i approve this message. 👍
Lucky she destroyed that herself when she were talking with Pentagon and Congress in US :D
@@madselmvig1457 She did not.
@@hansmarheim7620 Yes she did, it were both reported in Danish and US news. When she visited Biden and talked to Congress and Pentagon, she went on a bizarre rant about Green Energy, equal rights and LGBT rights. Now these are rights we hold dear in Denmark, however in NATO that is really not something they want to hear about. Especially the GOP part of Congress. So she were out again.
@@madselmvig1457 Ok, if you say so i believe you. But i still think she's a good candidate. 😉
I'd love to see a French person in this position.
Cmon now….
Tbh the french are not really good diplomats