Yeah, that's weird. I don't have that card anymore to test it directly, but I can confirm on the Gigabyte 4080 Eagle OC - you can't enable core voltage control in Afterburner either. I turn it on, but it's grey'd out. Watching Jays video on overclocking the 4090 Strix, he had the ability to increase it by 50mV. I'm not sure if it's card specific or not. If anyone else knows, please comment below.
@@JohnLCharette It may be that some cards of different brands cannot be unlocked with Afterburnar and you have to use your own software. But here you are using an MSI card. It should work and the voltage should be displayed on the app.
Yeah, I just looked back at my footage from this video. Its definitely grey'd out. I have both voltage control and monitoring turned on at all times. Weird.
@@JohnLCharette u cant touch voltage with afterburner for the 4000 series. only the speeds bc i guess whoever made afterburner hasnt done updates to it for a while
@ffiber! Interesting. You think it's specific to Afterburner? I'll have to try some other OC software. EVGA Precision is most likely out of date as well because they don't make GPUs anymore. The Zotac software had OC capabilities, but I don't have a Zotac anymore.. hmm.. very curious.
It's amazing that this channel has such high production value when there are only 1.07k subscribers. Mark my words, this channel will be the next to blow up and go viral. :)
Literally looked up this 4070ti MSI to check on the coil wind reviews I read before I bought it and that was the first thing you said. I will be sitting through your whole video.
Thank you so much for watching! I hope you enjoyed it and learned a few things. Are you still planning on purchasing this card or did you have another one in mind?
I can’t believe that I see a channel with 1.5 thousand subscribers, I thought it seemed to me and it says 1.5 million, but no, great content, I just want to grow up
Ohhhhhh, the white one? Congrats! I finally saw one in person at CES this year. They look incredible. Let me know how you like it. What case are you installing it into?
@@JohnLCharettejust bought a new build this is the spec list Case - NZXT H9 CPU - ryzen 9 7950X3D Ram - Corsair dominator titanium 2x48gb @6,600mhz Video card - MSI gaming x trio white 4070ti MB - MSI MPG B650 Edge Aio - Corsair icue H150i elite capelin xt The goal is to not have to touch the pc for years. I have adhd and a very impulsive purchasing disorder so I wanted to give no room for necessary upgrades in the future lol. Everything comes in on Saturday, I can’t wait to build it
That's definitely an impressive build. I had a 7950X in my Fractal North build here: ruclips.net/video/KxdNBWBHXA4/видео.html It's a solid CPU. I've since sold that build and miss it. 96gb of RAM?!! What are you using the machine for?
I actually just upgraded to corsair dominator titanium 128gb @6600mhz I have been really getting into blender, but aside from that I more so did it to future proof. I dont want to have to buy another pc for atleast 6 years. I also play star citizen. @@JohnLCharette
I got the 4070 ti gaming trio, should arrive by tomorrow. My main thing is, MSI is the only brand that I haven't had any issues with, I did not mind paying the premium for it. Nice vid btw, I hope your channel grows more good sir!
@@ibra5o6 playing on metro exodus at ultra setting I get around a peak of 71 deg celcius while it running quite. The card boost up to 2790 mhz. Haven't tweaked it yet as I'm still learning :)
@@ibra5o6 np sir, will let you know if the undervolt helps as well. Atm it seems that the msi gaming trio can really push out past the 3000 mhz. The cooling it provides is insane. I have heard that some even uses the msi suprim 4070ti bios on it but I don't know how to do that.
In any bookstore/stationery store in your city you can wrap any box in that thin and cheap plastic for only 2 or 3 euros, that is not evidence of being a new product, it is the easiest way to FAKE. However, all the brands YES they seal the antistatic bag with their own security seal, that is, a type of tape that only they have, and it cannot be counterfeited so easily, for this reason almost no brand wraps the boxes in that plastic. , intead they prefer to seal the static bag where the GPU is stored.
Ohhh, very interesting. I didn't know it was that easy to reseal boxes using that plastic. And yes, all of the EKWB gear that I just bought comes with EK seals on each bag. I do appreciate that.
I bought a ROG Strix 4070ti OC through an open box deal on Newegg. Was like $250 off so i thought it was a good deal... it wasn't. Ended up costing me more money than i wanted (bought a new PSU, did extensive diag ect.) After 2 weeks RMA was resolved, honestly glad I purchased this over the $1000 Strix card that sounded like a F15 taking off when the coil whine was so bad. Thanks for the extensive review!
Sorry to hear about your experience with the Strix 4070 Ti. I'm using one in my system right now and there's a slight bit of coil whine, but not enough to consider returning it. That's the risk with buying open box. I did the same thing with an Asus TUF 4090. It was VERY loud. I was very happy with the MSI Gaming X Trio 4070 Ti - it's a good card. Thanks for sharing your story.
thing with prof reviews and cards is: if you didnt buy it via shop to test it, any overall statement about coilwhine is to be taken with a grain of salt. if the card comes from msi as a review product, it will very likely be a selected card without whine. i now had 4 different trio cards over the course of 8 weeks. all of them, had terrible coilwhine. the loudest, i ever had on any card. so loud, that i can hear it through the case (thats on my desk) and through my open back headphones. and the whine is always there, as soon as the card draws 80+ watts. this makes the huge cooler a joke. in demand games, the card runs at 68° which is super cool for a 70ti level card while the fans stay a 1180 rpm. but the coilwhine is so loud, that the fans can go up to 1600rpm untill the noises even out and are on the same level
Oh no, it sounds like you've had some bad luck with your cards. I'm starting to agree that pretty much all 4080/4090s have some coil whine. That being said, none of my cards were sent to me from manufacturers and a good chunk of them were coil whine free. Gigabyte 4080 Eagle OC, Asus Strix 4080, MSI Suprim X 4090, MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 were all okay. I don't follow the exact process of how these cards are manufacturers, but I can guess that they are tweaking the process as they go. They may be using different facilities or parts. Every tweak or change could result in a different coil whine experience. I do 100% agree that if a manufacturer sends you a card, it's probably been tested to it's best abilities. Thankfully, my channel is so small that I've had to purchase all my own cards. So, that's a silver lining to my credit card bill ;) Thanks for the input!
Subbed, really liking your videos. I can totally see you become the Canadian equivalent to PC Centric. Just a normal personable guy, that has a passion for PC tech. I daily use Zotac Trinity OC 4070ti and I wouldn't pay more for this MSI card. The Zotac feels like the best option for the 4070ti in North America right now due to smaller size and comparable performance to the larger cards.
Awww, thank you so much! I would be proud to be the Canadian equivalent to PC Centric ;) Totally agree that this Zotac card is the better bang for your buck compared to the MSI Gaming X Trio.
Hey john, just so you know i get a little coil wine myself with the 4070ti asus oc while under load. Its not very loud or noticeable, only when the glass door to my case is off and open. Thought id share since you haven’t reviewed that particular card. Also have you finished the thermaltake build with the open case? …Great video by the way, keep em coming. 🤙🏽
Hey Josh! Good to know about your card. That's very similar to this MSI 4070 Ti Gaming X Trio. Remind me, do you have the TUF OC or the Strix OC? And yes! I've finished the build. You can see the 2nd half of the build here: ruclips.net/video/muKazmTjKYg/видео.html And then I did another cable clean up video here: ruclips.net/video/IpujnC1lGY4/видео.html
@@JohnLCharette I must’ve of missed the second part to that video… i have the strix version, i just recently overclocked it passed the 3000mhz mark. I plan on stress testing it with that software you just showed in this video. Hopefully ill do that soon.
Hi John, I've just found your channel as I'm trying to navigate the minefield of choosing an RTX 40XX card! I've settled on a 4070ti, now trying to choose which one... Your reviews are certainly helping me, thanks. One thing that I noticed that you don't mention that I would appreciate, is the number and type of display outputs. Thanks.
Hey @paulhalgarth1164! I'm glad you found the channel. I'm trying to review as many GPUs as I can. I think I have 3 or 4 4070Ti's on here. As for ports, you're right. I haven't mentioned that at all and the differences. Most cards have 1xHDMI and 3xDisplayPort.. but there are a few cards that have 2xHDMI + 3xDisplayPort, like Strix cards. In all my videos, I should show off the power side of the card, so skip forward to that section and you should see what each card has. I hope that helps and I'll do better about speaking about them. Appreciate the feedback!
Just switched to Zotac 4070ti Amp Extreme AIRO from my MSI Trio 2080, much cooler with temps @65~ under heavy load after 7-8 hours of gaming in Singapore here (with ambient temps @30 degree celsius). Pretty quiet with no noticeable coil whine. This is comparing to my old MSI that runs @80+ degrees under heavy load and the fans were revving like an airplane. I think the Zotac Amp Extreme AIRO can be a good contender if anyone is looking for a slightly more "premium" card than the Zotac's Trinity card. Would love to see a comparison of the Amp Extreme vs AIRO card, would be interesting!
@@briansabalo Same here, or similar. Warmest I have seen the Trinity OC hit is 76c after four hours or so of gaming. Lighter gaming more like early 70's. Idle it's 38c or so.
The old MSI 3000's had the worst thermals! You made a good choice with your upgrade. Yeah, I'm not surprised that the AMP AIRO has better thermals. It's a pretty sizable card. I have definitely considered picking one up to check them out. I'll add it to my list ;) Thanks for sharing your experience.
I AGREEE ..I was on a Galax HOF i loved the gpu but then i switched to a 4070ti Zotac extreme amp airo WOW is what i can say it is the super mercedez benz class of gpus software to match it dead silent and overclocks heavily 3000mhz+ on core and 12000+ on vram i believe also it uses the 4090 pcb so it has a very kool vram and power phases awsum controllable rgb and individual fan speeds man this is top notch when it comes to gpu quality im definately a zotac fan now edit here - it runs very kool as it has a massive kooler on it idles even under 30 or just above it on a hot day gaming temps have been 40-62 no case airflow in mine
Are people using the adaptor this came with in order to provide power? What are the other options people are using or is the adaptor it ships with fine?
Hey Mark, check out my video here for a couple other options: ruclips.net/video/IpujnC1lGY4/видео.html Le t me know if you have more questions - I'd be happy to help.
Hey John, I got the same GPU but without the Ti. Question, I noticed my three gpu fans aren't running is that normal? I saw your fans weren't running aswell.
Congrats on the new card! I actually reviewed your exact card here: ruclips.net/video/4KjUghcMaJk/видео.html As for the fans, yes that's very normal. They are designed to stop spinning when the card isn't being used much. As soon as you load a game or GPU intensive application, they will spin up :)
Excellent review, I do own this X Trio 4070Ti and I am curious to try your overclocking settings. Big question is what did this card benefit from overclocking in gaming? Is it higher FPS, etc?
Yes. Slightly higher FPS in games (2-5%). Personally, I don't overclock my cards regularly. I do it for the reviews just to better understand the potential overclockability of a card. Feel free to try the settings. Know that there's a good chance your card will freeze and reboot your system. It's very dependent on the game/benchmark you are doing that determines if your card can handle those settings. In my opinion, it's not worth the time effort and extra wear/tear on your card.
@@JohnLCharette I appreciate the straight answer, I just finished a round of Battlefield 2042 on my MSI Suprim X, on a Dell Alienware AW2723DF @ 1440p. Avg fps gaming is 180. On my MSI 4070 Ti, on a Dell 170hz 1440 monitor playing battle field avg fps 160. Yes, both GPU's can bounce up higher, but I usually lock the FPS @180 and @ 160. Great reviews once again. Thank you.
For my white build Im looking at this card (white edition) and the Gigabyte Aero. Not looking at overclock potential and might even underclock it since a 4070ti is excellent for 3440x1440 on high settings (and I pay around 400 euro's on electricity). The key aspect is noise level. 60 decibel doesn't sound that quiet to be honest. The Suprim X has the quietest of all 4070 ti's, but it's color won't match my build.
I haven't tested an Aero card yet to get a feel for it. I currently have a Gigabyte 3090 Vision in my system, which is the 3000 series version of the Aero and it's okay. I'm not a big fan. I prefer MSI Gaming X Trio myself. Let me know what you end up deciding. I think either way, you'll do well with 1440p gaming. That's what I run as well.
Awww, too bad. That white version is beautiful. Hopefully it isn't too bad. I'm hearing more and more stories about coil whine on all 4000 series cards. It might just be something we deal with this round. What case are you using it in?
@@JohnLCharette it seems to have gotten a bit better since I’ve been using it more but it really depends on the game I’m playing. I’m using it in the Corsair 4000D
As I understand it, the thermal throttle temp prevents the GPU core temp from going higher than 84, but hotspots do occur throughout the chip which can temporarily spike higher. I don't think it's a problem at all unless your main GPU core temp is stuck at 84C, then you know the card is being throttled and you'll lose performance.
Over here the Zotac is more expensive (50-150EUR) than the MSI so it's a no-brainer. Managed to get the MSI for 50 EUR less than it was introduced for as well.
Ohh, very interesting about the price differences. We have a hard time finding brands like PNY or Gainward in Canada. It sounds like you got a great deal. I ordered the MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio yesterday to try it out. Stay tuned for a review to compare the two.
It's very comparable to a TUF card. It's actually it's direct competitor, in my mind. I haven't tested the TUF 4070 Ti, but my guess is that the thermals are slightly better on the TUF card. But it's also a lot more thick. Does this mean it will perform better? Not necessarily. I believe both are a very similar. I would base it more on looks and warranty than performance between these two. Let me know which you decide.
@@JohnLCharette Unfortunately I have little experience with asus tuf gaming 4070 oc 12 gb, coil whine, annoying and unbearable I had the opportunity to return the card and did not hesitate In my country ASUS TUF GAMING 4070 ti costs about 1000+ euros I can't expect anything less than perfection I prefer ASUS because my motherboard is ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO But I admit purely visually this MSI is great and it is cheaper than ASUS in my country.
Yeah, I'm not surprised. I just unboxed the MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio and they sent it with the same GPU sag bracket. Not required in my opinion, especially with these lighter cards. That being said, they are longer than more other cards, so who knows. Totally depends on your case. How are you liking it so far?
I'm using MSI Afterburner 4.6.5 right now. I don't think I've updated it since I created that video. What settings are you using to overclock? I recommend sliding the Power Limit to it's max amount. Then, slowly increase the Core Clock by 25-50mhz at a time.. try it out. With most 4000 series, you can't push it past +150-200mhz on the Core Clock. Then, once that is stable. Start to overclock your VRAM. I usually start at +1000, then do increments of +100. Eventually, it will crash, then you start again and go a bit lower. Let me know if that helps.
Yeah, you should probably start a bit lower and then work your way up little by little. Depending on the game or benchmark, mine would freeze at those speeds as well.
Hi, Enjoyed youe video. Nice content and info. Can you help me with this - Should i go for 4070ti = MSI Gaming X Trio OR ZOTAC Trinity OC ? i have a bit of favor in zotac trinity OC as it provides 3+2 (Total 5 ) years of warranty instead of MSI 3 year warranty. But i think your honest opinion can help me a lot ! 😃 Please do reply me as soon as possible from your end as i will be buying the GPU in upcoming 3 days. Cheers 1
Good morning Sarvesh! Thank you so much for watching. I would recommend the Zotac Trinity OC. It's still my favourite 4070 Ti that I've reviewed. Please let me know what you end up deciding and your experience once you get it.
Just wish these cards had the text to show which model they are, like my EVGA 3070, i hate it when people come round and look in my machine all to ask what card is that lol >
Same!! EVGA was the best for that. For me, a GPU is a statement piece in my computer. I want people to know I have a 4070 Ti, 4080 etc.. hopefully someone starts doing similar on their next round of cards.
I bought this card a month ago, and it had the worst coil whine I've heard in over 15 years of building PCs. Unfortunate because the fans were extremely quiet, and the build quality felt very solid.
Oh no, that’s super frustrating. Could you possibly return the card? I’ve been buying all my GPUs from retailers that allow returns such as BestBuy, Newegg or Amazon. I’ve returned a few due to bad coil whine.
@@JohnLCharette yes sir, I already returned it. My only other option was the PNY 4070 Ti because I had some Dell rewards to spend and those were the only two options. The PNY was MUCH better, not perfect but definitely acceptable.
I would choose the Gaming X Trio, all day long. I feel like it's a better design and more of a mid-tier'd card. I feel the Gaming OC is a direct competitor of the MSI Ventus (their lower end card).
Ahh yes, I hope you enjoy the RTX ON ;) I'm testing out an MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio right now to compare it to this card. So far, my gut says go with the 4070 Ti. You made the right choice but stay tuned for my video about it.
Good morning. When checking this website: pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/16h1dN/1/general-tasks/1920x1080/ it says that the 11400 is a bottleneck for a 4070 Ti for both 1080p and 1440p resolutions. I recommend upgrading your CPU before buying a 4070 Ti.
My case handbook says the max length of GPU shouldn't exceed 320mm Doh! Wish I'd read that before buying the Gaming X Trio...😭 All is not lost, some slim fans mounted on the outside of the mounting brackets, Jobs a goodun. Sucks a touch more dust in, as the fans are where the dust filter used to be, and closer to the perforated case front.
Ahhh, too bad. The Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC would have been a killer card for you. It's so small. All good, the cooling is better on the Gaming X Trio. As long as you have a solution. If it ends up sucking in too much dust, consider trading it with someone.
@@JohnLCharettedust isn't a problem, been running the system for 12 months + now, excellent results, the cooling solution on the 4070Ti Gaming X Trio is outstanding.
I need some help! I got this card today! I have a Ryzen 7 2700x eight core CPU on low setting 1080p in still getting about 120 FPS which was what i was already getting on my 2080. I'm getting about 70% CPU usage. What am I doing wrong? Do I need a new cpu?
Hey, sorry to hear about that. It must be pretty frustrating after spending a good chunk on money on a new GPU. Yeah, it sounds like you're being CPU limited on whichever game it is you are playing. Each game is a little different depending on the game engine that's been used. What model motherboard do you have? There's a chance you can upgrade to a Ryzen 3000 or even 5000 - the 5800x3D is the best gaming CPU available right now with AM4 socket.
@John Charette I'm not sure off the top of my head what motherboard. It's COD MW2 so it is a pretty demanding game but I've researched before I bought and other people with my same GPU and CPU getting 300 plus FPS. Do you think it would be best just to downgrade to a 3060 t.i. or should I just upgrade the CPU?
I think you should keep the 4070 Ti. It's such a solid card. Just as fast as a 3090 Ti + it has DLSS 3.0. I recommend upgrading your CPU. Do you research and see if you can away with keeping your motherboard. It may require a BIOS update to support newer CPUs, but you should be able to upgrade for cheap enough. CPUs are way cheaper than GPUs ;) Let me know what you end up doing.
1080p gaming with high refresh rates are more cpu intensive than gpu. If you go up in resolution and upgrade the monitor, that would put more load on the gpu and less on the cpu Edit: you probably have a round 120hz display, those other people have around 300hz display
Hi, what do You think about asus tuf gaming And this msi x trio? Both at the same price 900euro, which one is better in your opinion? I’m buying components for my first build(already bought from msi msi mag b660m and core liquid 360r v2->is it good?) and how big case should I buy? Thank you so much if u respond me
One of my co-workers just bought the Asus TUF 4070 Ti and he loves it. The main difference between the two cards is the design and size. The Gaming X Trio is about an inch or 32mm longer than the TUF card. I think that's the biggest downsize of the Gaming X Trio is the size. I expect a big card when it's a 4080 or 4090, but in a 4070 Ti, I like the smaller versions. So, performance wise, they'll be very very similar. I haven't used an MSI Core Liquid 360R v2 but it looks solid. I love that you can spin the top of the water block depending on your case orientation. What size case? I wouldn't go any smaller than a mid-sized case, such as a Corsair 4000 or 5000 if you're going with the Gaming X Trio. You can go a little smaller with the TUF card. I hope this helps! Thank you so much for watching. Let me know which case you decide to buy.
@@JohnLCharette really helpful! I’m looking for x trio because it inspires me more, I want a aggressive case like “Case Jonsbo MOD3 Micro-ATX tower vetro temperato Grigio [MOD3 MINI GREY]” or “Cougar Conquer Middle Tower No-Power Vetro Temperato MinITX mATX ATX Nero/Arancione”, in the first one I saw the measure said rtx 4070ti and coreliquid with 3 can be in if they are right even it’s Name has mini, which one will you recommend me? And which is the best 4070ti card for you?
I would absolutely recommend the Jonsbo MOD3. I hadn't heard about their cases until recently. I saw this build with another model Jonsbo and fell in love! Check it out: ruclips.net/video/ZpdbSn8LP-0/видео.html
I think you'll be CPU limited with most games using a 3900x and a 4070 Ti. This GPU is amazing, but I recommend upgrading to at least a 5800X3D or a 5900X if you want to take full advantage of it.
@@JohnLCharette Beast of a CPU and will be the last chip i drop into my AM4, don't forget if you buy from a third party vendor you still get your 3 year warranty as its AMDs own, providing its new and sealed👍 5950x will be better for productivity, forgot to add that, so if that's really important you could take that chip, but purely for gaming, the 5800x3d is the better choice.
So mr john the 4070 ti gaming x trio is 1008 Dollars & the 4070 ti asus tuf 949.4 Dollar which is better regardless of price & looks and I don’t mind the size or power consumption or fan noise, I want a reliable card that don’t have heating problems or like bad build quality like the GPUs from gigabyte JaysTwoCents talked about yesterday
@IBRA506, if you're looking for dependability/reliability, I would lean towards the TUF. They are both great cards, but it's part of the TUF branding that they are dependable. You can save yourself $50. I would only go for the Gaming X Trio because I think it looks better.
@@JohnLCharette thank U for responding , I decided to get the X TRIO because it takes 6 days shipping while the TUF takes 2weeks with amazon I really really hope it doesn’t come faulty I don’t think that NewEgg would accept returning it
I've returned 2 or 3 cards back to Newegg.ca - I'm guessing their US site would be the same. I know they often sell open box items, so I feel like they accept returns.
White one?!? I didn't even know there was a white one. Ohhhh, it looks soooo nice. Agreed. The black one is still great, but those all white builds. Can't beat them :) Thanks for the info!
did yours box come wrapped in plastic like the one in this video? i just got one delivered for £800 from scan, wasnt wrapped in plastic or have the outer card board box. im waiting until the weekend before installing it since i have a new PSU and monitor coming. wont be happy if it has really bad coil whine
Absolutely! I'm testing out an MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio and it's also very good. It's 30% cheaper than the 4070 Ti but only performs 15-25% slower than a 4070 Ti. That could be a good solution if you're on a budget. Let me know what you decide.
My previous 3 cards were gaming x cards, but this time went another brand because the pricing by MSI for the current gaming x is ridiculous. Here, an MSI gaming X 4070 ti is only about 20 US dollars cheaper than another brands 4080. Their 4070 gaming x is about 15 us dollars cheaper than another brands 4070 ti. They got the pricing wrong this gen, i bought another brand. Probably the best card though overall, if you are willing to pay. What i ended up with is about 1-2% slower and 2-3db noisier , which is no big deal, so i didnt think the price was worth it.
Oh wow, that's very interesting to hear about the price differences. May I ask what country you live in? I'm also curious to hear what brand you chose and your experience with it.
@John Charette Australia. And i ended up with a Galax 4070 ex gamer. Happy with it and it was on sale for about 180 aussie dollars cheaper than gaming x. I was previously a gaming x fanboy, but not paying 4070 ti prices for a 4070
@@JohnLCharette my case is very small its an old prebuilt that ive done a gpu upgrade to but it can only hold a gpu with one fan idk what its fully called so even if i put a 2060 in i would have to remove the whole hard drive bay and all i have right now is a hard drive but i am getting an ssd soon
Ah yes, that's the frustrating part about some prebuilts. They've packed things in so closely that you can't change around the configuration very easily. Have you considering switching cases? Moving over the parts so that you have more room for growth?
Good morning. I'm definitely team MSI Gaming X Trio over Gigabyte Gaming OC. There's been some negative press about Gigabyte. Check out this video by JayzTwoCents: ruclips.net/video/wb5tlHJHVBs/видео.html
@@JohnLCharettethanks for telling me , i think i will get the msi gaming x trio since i love the design and it's the cheapest one in my country. Love your content ❤
I know this video is old now. But I just bagged an immaculate used msi 4070ti gaming xtrio for £480 for my sons new build for Christmas. Plan was to get a 5080. But then they got delayed til Jan. January. So probably swap it out with a 5080 when they do become available 😊. I got it paired with a 7800x3d in the phanteks nv5. Vertically mounted and it looks boss 😎
From what I know, LHR is a thing of the past but I could be wrong. I haven't mine on any 4000 series card. I know back when I had 3000 series, there was a way around the LHR block (LHR bypass). I didn't think NVIDIA bothered with it in the 4000 series. Are you considering doing some mining with a 4070 Ti?
@@JohnLCharette I got a white Kediers C590 case, but using a loaner PSU. Can you suggest a good easy connect PSU? maybe 850w? I'm little concerned with the cable clutter i may encounter. Maybe an MSI psu? what do you think?
Why doesn't it unlock the voltage control in MSI Afterburner for better overclocking????
Yeah, that's weird. I don't have that card anymore to test it directly, but I can confirm on the Gigabyte 4080 Eagle OC - you can't enable core voltage control in Afterburner either. I turn it on, but it's grey'd out. Watching Jays video on overclocking the 4090 Strix, he had the ability to increase it by 50mV. I'm not sure if it's card specific or not. If anyone else knows, please comment below.
@@JohnLCharette It may be that some cards of different brands cannot be unlocked with Afterburnar and you have to use your own software. But here you are using an MSI card. It should work and the voltage should be displayed on the app.
Yeah, I just looked back at my footage from this video. Its definitely grey'd out. I have both voltage control and monitoring turned on at all times. Weird.
@@JohnLCharette u cant touch voltage with afterburner for the 4000 series. only the speeds bc i guess whoever made afterburner hasnt done updates to it for a while
@ffiber! Interesting. You think it's specific to Afterburner? I'll have to try some other OC software. EVGA Precision is most likely out of date as well because they don't make GPUs anymore. The Zotac software had OC capabilities, but I don't have a Zotac anymore.. hmm.. very curious.
It's amazing that this channel has such high production value when there are only 1.07k subscribers. Mark my words, this channel will be the next to blow up and go viral. :)
Awww, thank you so much for your kind words! I’ll keep doing my best. Baby steps but yes one day I hope this blows up ;)
Literally looked up this 4070ti MSI to check on the coil wind reviews I read before I bought it and that was the first thing you said. I will be sitting through your whole video.
Thank you so much for watching! I hope you enjoyed it and learned a few things. Are you still planning on purchasing this card or did you have another one in mind?
What a good channel I just found, I sincerely hope you grow a lot
Awww, thank you so much! I appreciate the lovely comment
Wow when i saw the quality of the video i thought you had hundreds of thousands of subscribers. You deserve a lot more than 1k subs!
Thank you so much for your kind words. Doing my best to create quality content that people will enjoy :)
I can’t believe that I see a channel with 1.5 thousand subscribers, I thought it seemed to me and it says 1.5 million, but no, great content, I just want to grow up
Awww, thank you so much. I'll keep posting videos and hope it will grow as well :)
just bought a 4070ti gaming x trio white. Super excited
Ohhhhhh, the white one? Congrats! I finally saw one in person at CES this year. They look incredible. Let me know how you like it. What case are you installing it into?
@@JohnLCharettejust bought a new build this is the spec list
Case - NZXT H9
CPU - ryzen 9 7950X3D
Ram - Corsair dominator titanium 2x48gb @6,600mhz
Video card - MSI gaming x trio white 4070ti
MB - MSI MPG B650 Edge
Aio - Corsair icue H150i elite capelin xt
The goal is to not have to touch the pc for years. I have adhd and a very impulsive purchasing disorder so I wanted to give no room for necessary upgrades in the future lol. Everything comes in on Saturday, I can’t wait to build it
That's definitely an impressive build. I had a 7950X in my Fractal North build here: ruclips.net/video/KxdNBWBHXA4/видео.html It's a solid CPU. I've since sold that build and miss it. 96gb of RAM?!! What are you using the machine for?
I actually just upgraded to corsair dominator titanium 128gb @6600mhz
I have been really getting into blender, but aside from that I more so did it to future proof. I dont want to have to buy another pc for atleast 6 years. I also play star citizen. @@JohnLCharette
Very nice! That's insane RAM. Is it 2x64gb of 4x32gb? I'm curious if you are able to hit those speeds if you are using 4 DIMMs.
Currently looking into building a ryzen 5600x 4070ti and this video helps a lot. Hope you go far and wish you luck man!
Thank you so much for the kind words and so glad my video helped
Just ordered mine I can't wait to get it!
Amazing! Congrats. What GPU are you upgrading from?
I got the 4070 ti gaming trio, should arrive by tomorrow. My main thing is, MSI is the only brand that I haven't had any issues with, I did not mind paying the premium for it. Nice vid btw, I hope your channel grows more good sir!
Thank you very much for the support and I hope you love your 4070 Ti Gaming X Trio. I was very impressed with this model in all the 4000 series cards.
An U tell me what’s the max temp U get & what’s the average one ?
@@ibra5o6 playing on metro exodus at ultra setting I get around a peak of 71 deg celcius while it running quite. The card boost up to 2790 mhz. Haven't tweaked it yet as I'm still learning :)
@@graelstream2353 thank you so much for responding
@@ibra5o6 np sir, will let you know if the undervolt helps as well. Atm it seems that the msi gaming trio can really push out past the 3000 mhz. The cooling it provides is insane. I have heard that some even uses the msi suprim 4070ti bios on it but I don't know how to do that.
In any bookstore/stationery store in your city you can wrap any box in that thin and cheap plastic for only 2 or 3 euros, that is not evidence of being a new product, it is the easiest way to FAKE.
However, all the brands YES they seal the antistatic bag with their own security seal, that is, a type of tape that only they have, and it cannot be counterfeited so easily, for this reason almost no brand wraps the boxes in that plastic. , intead they prefer to seal the static bag where the GPU is stored.
Ohhh, very interesting. I didn't know it was that easy to reseal boxes using that plastic. And yes, all of the EKWB gear that I just bought comes with EK seals on each bag. I do appreciate that.
I bought a ROG Strix 4070ti OC through an open box deal on Newegg. Was like $250 off so i thought it was a good deal... it wasn't. Ended up costing me more money than i wanted (bought a new PSU, did extensive diag ect.) After 2 weeks RMA was resolved, honestly glad I purchased this over the $1000 Strix card that sounded like a F15 taking off when the coil whine was so bad. Thanks for the extensive review!
Sorry to hear about your experience with the Strix 4070 Ti. I'm using one in my system right now and there's a slight bit of coil whine, but not enough to consider returning it. That's the risk with buying open box. I did the same thing with an Asus TUF 4090. It was VERY loud. I was very happy with the MSI Gaming X Trio 4070 Ti - it's a good card. Thanks for sharing your story.
@@JohnLCharette Whole card ended up having VRAM and display issues. It was a borked GPU 😭
Oh no.. well I'm glad you were able to get it RMA'd so quickly. 2 weeks isn't bad at all. How are you enjoying your Gaming X Trio?
Such a good channel!!! I am so glad I found it.
thing with prof reviews and cards is: if you didnt buy it via shop to test it, any overall statement about coilwhine is to be taken with a grain of salt. if the card comes from msi as a review product, it will very likely be a selected card without whine. i now had 4 different trio cards over the course of 8 weeks. all of them, had terrible coilwhine. the loudest, i ever had on any card. so loud, that i can hear it through the case (thats on my desk) and through my open back headphones. and the whine is always there, as soon as the card draws 80+ watts. this makes the huge cooler a joke. in demand games, the card runs at 68° which is super cool for a 70ti level card while the fans stay a 1180 rpm. but the coilwhine is so loud, that the fans can go up to 1600rpm untill the noises even out and are on the same level
Oh no, it sounds like you've had some bad luck with your cards. I'm starting to agree that pretty much all 4080/4090s have some coil whine. That being said, none of my cards were sent to me from manufacturers and a good chunk of them were coil whine free. Gigabyte 4080 Eagle OC, Asus Strix 4080, MSI Suprim X 4090, MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 were all okay.
I don't follow the exact process of how these cards are manufacturers, but I can guess that they are tweaking the process as they go. They may be using different facilities or parts. Every tweak or change could result in a different coil whine experience.
I do 100% agree that if a manufacturer sends you a card, it's probably been tested to it's best abilities. Thankfully, my channel is so small that I've had to purchase all my own cards. So, that's a silver lining to my credit card bill ;) Thanks for the input!
They just made a trio white, and I think I’ll buy that one
The white is soooo beautiful. I would highly recommend it if you have a full white build.
Subbed, really liking your videos. I can totally see you become the Canadian equivalent to PC Centric. Just a normal personable guy, that has a passion for PC tech. I daily use Zotac Trinity OC 4070ti and I wouldn't pay more for this MSI card. The Zotac feels like the best option for the 4070ti in North America right now due to smaller size and comparable performance to the larger cards.
Awww, thank you so much! I would be proud to be the Canadian equivalent to PC Centric ;) Totally agree that this Zotac card is the better bang for your buck compared to the MSI Gaming X Trio.
Hey john, just so you know i get a little coil wine myself with the 4070ti asus oc while under load. Its not very loud or noticeable, only when the glass door to my case is off and open. Thought id share since you haven’t reviewed that particular card. Also have you finished the thermaltake build with the open case? …Great video by the way, keep em coming. 🤙🏽
Hey Josh! Good to know about your card. That's very similar to this MSI 4070 Ti Gaming X Trio. Remind me, do you have the TUF OC or the Strix OC?
And yes! I've finished the build. You can see the 2nd half of the build here: ruclips.net/video/muKazmTjKYg/видео.html And then I did another cable clean up video here: ruclips.net/video/IpujnC1lGY4/видео.html
@@JohnLCharette I must’ve of missed the second part to that video… i have the strix version, i just recently overclocked it passed the 3000mhz mark. I plan on stress testing it with that software you just showed in this video. Hopefully ill do that soon.
Hi John, I've just found your channel as I'm trying to navigate the minefield of choosing an RTX 40XX card! I've settled on a 4070ti, now trying to choose which one... Your reviews are certainly helping me, thanks. One thing that I noticed that you don't mention that I would appreciate, is the number and type of display outputs. Thanks.
Hey @paulhalgarth1164! I'm glad you found the channel. I'm trying to review as many GPUs as I can. I think I have 3 or 4 4070Ti's on here. As for ports, you're right. I haven't mentioned that at all and the differences. Most cards have 1xHDMI and 3xDisplayPort.. but there are a few cards that have 2xHDMI + 3xDisplayPort, like Strix cards. In all my videos, I should show off the power side of the card, so skip forward to that section and you should see what each card has. I hope that helps and I'll do better about speaking about them. Appreciate the feedback!
No worries. Thanks John.
Just switched to Zotac 4070ti Amp Extreme AIRO from my MSI Trio 2080, much cooler with temps @65~ under heavy load after 7-8 hours of gaming in Singapore here (with ambient temps @30 degree celsius). Pretty quiet with no noticeable coil whine. This is comparing to my old MSI that runs @80+ degrees under heavy load and the fans were revving like an airplane.
I think the Zotac Amp Extreme AIRO can be a good contender if anyone is looking for a slightly more "premium" card than the Zotac's Trinity card. Would love to see a comparison of the Amp Extreme vs AIRO card, would be interesting!
I have the trinity OC and I reach 75c under heavy load. must be case airflow
@@briansabalo Same here, or similar. Warmest I have seen the Trinity OC hit is 76c after four hours or so of gaming. Lighter gaming more like early 70's. Idle it's 38c or so.
The old MSI 3000's had the worst thermals! You made a good choice with your upgrade. Yeah, I'm not surprised that the AMP AIRO has better thermals. It's a pretty sizable card. I have definitely considered picking one up to check them out. I'll add it to my list ;) Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@JohnLCharette Cheers, John. I'm Really liking your channel BTW, you deserve many more subscribers. Really professional and good to watch.
I AGREEE ..I was on a Galax HOF
i loved the gpu
but then i switched to a 4070ti Zotac extreme amp airo
WOW is what i can say
it is the super mercedez benz class of gpus
software to match it
dead silent and overclocks heavily
3000mhz+ on core and 12000+ on vram
i believe also it uses the 4090 pcb
so it has a very kool vram and power phases
awsum controllable rgb and individual fan speeds
man this is top notch when it comes to gpu quality
im definately a zotac fan now
edit here - it runs very kool as it has a massive kooler on it
idles even under 30 or just above it on a hot day
gaming temps have been 40-62
no case airflow in mine
Are people using the adaptor this came with in order to provide power? What are the other options people are using or is the adaptor it ships with fine?
Hey Mark, check out my video here for a couple other options: ruclips.net/video/IpujnC1lGY4/видео.html Le t me know if you have more questions - I'd be happy to help.
Hey John, I got the same GPU but without the Ti. Question, I noticed my three gpu fans aren't running is that normal? I saw your fans weren't running aswell.
Congrats on the new card! I actually reviewed your exact card here: ruclips.net/video/4KjUghcMaJk/видео.html
As for the fans, yes that's very normal. They are designed to stop spinning when the card isn't being used much. As soon as you load a game or GPU intensive application, they will spin up :)
Very good channel! Love the content. Please keep on going.
Thank you so much! It's comments like this that keep my going :)
Excellent review, I do own this X Trio 4070Ti and I am curious to try your overclocking settings. Big question is what did this card benefit from overclocking in gaming? Is it higher FPS, etc?
Yes. Slightly higher FPS in games (2-5%). Personally, I don't overclock my cards regularly. I do it for the reviews just to better understand the potential overclockability of a card. Feel free to try the settings. Know that there's a good chance your card will freeze and reboot your system. It's very dependent on the game/benchmark you are doing that determines if your card can handle those settings. In my opinion, it's not worth the time effort and extra wear/tear on your card.
@@JohnLCharette I appreciate the straight answer, I just finished a round of Battlefield 2042 on my MSI Suprim X, on a Dell Alienware AW2723DF @ 1440p. Avg fps gaming is 180. On my MSI 4070 Ti, on a Dell 170hz 1440 monitor playing battle field avg fps 160. Yes, both GPU's can bounce up higher, but I usually lock the FPS @180 and @ 160. Great reviews once again. Thank you.
Recommendation for the power cable?
Absolutely! There are two good options. CableMod or ModDIY. I did a short video about them both here:
ruclips.net/video/IpujnC1lGY4/видео.html
If I am getting MSI 4070 Ti Gaming X Trio at the same price of ZOTAC TRINITY OC 4070 Ti, then which card should I choose?
If you have the space in your case, get the Gaming X Trio - it's longer and because of that it has better thermals. If not, the Zotac is amazing.
For my white build Im looking at this card (white edition) and the Gigabyte Aero. Not looking at overclock potential and might even underclock it since a 4070ti is excellent for 3440x1440 on high settings (and I pay around 400 euro's on electricity). The key aspect is noise level. 60 decibel doesn't sound that quiet to be honest. The Suprim X has the quietest of all 4070 ti's, but it's color won't match my build.
I haven't tested an Aero card yet to get a feel for it. I currently have a Gigabyte 3090 Vision in my system, which is the 3000 series version of the Aero and it's okay. I'm not a big fan. I prefer MSI Gaming X Trio myself. Let me know what you end up deciding. I think either way, you'll do well with 1440p gaming. That's what I run as well.
I've got 4070ti and it 13600k with dual channel 6000 DDR5. Every game rubns above 130 fps on ultra at 3440x1440. It's amazing
i really want this card but its sold out everywhere
Hmm have you considered the SLIM version as well? There may be stock in that.
Does the 4070ti gaming x trio fits in lian li o11 dynamic ( non-evo )
Yes, it will absolutely fit. I have tested larger 4090s in the Lian Li O11D Mini. If it fits in that case, it’ll fit in the regular O11D.
Bought the white edition of the 4070ti gaming x trio and the coil whine is pretty annoying
Awww, too bad. That white version is beautiful. Hopefully it isn't too bad. I'm hearing more and more stories about coil whine on all 4000 series cards. It might just be something we deal with this round. What case are you using it in?
Nooooooh
@@JohnLCharette it seems to have gotten a bit better since I’ve been using it more but it really depends on the game I’m playing. I’m using it in the Corsair 4000D
Great case! I did a build last year with it in black. I'm glad the coil whine is subsiding a bit.
15:21 hey bud, quick question
My 4070ti msi gaming x trio says in hwinfo that the thermal throttle is 84, I saw yours reached 92 hotspot is thay ok?
As I understand it, the thermal throttle temp prevents the GPU core temp from going higher than 84, but hotspots do occur throughout the chip which can temporarily spike higher. I don't think it's a problem at all unless your main GPU core temp is stuck at 84C, then you know the card is being throttled and you'll lose performance.
Over here the Zotac is more expensive (50-150EUR) than the MSI so it's a no-brainer. Managed to get the MSI for 50 EUR less than it was introduced for as well.
Ohh, very interesting about the price differences. We have a hard time finding brands like PNY or Gainward in Canada. It sounds like you got a great deal. I ordered the MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio yesterday to try it out. Stay tuned for a review to compare the two.
A very beautiful card indeed
But does it do better than asus tuf gaming?
It's very comparable to a TUF card. It's actually it's direct competitor, in my mind. I haven't tested the TUF 4070 Ti, but my guess is that the thermals are slightly better on the TUF card. But it's also a lot more thick. Does this mean it will perform better? Not necessarily. I believe both are a very similar. I would base it more on looks and warranty than performance between these two. Let me know which you decide.
@@JohnLCharette Unfortunately I have little experience with asus tuf gaming 4070 oc 12 gb, coil whine, annoying and unbearable
I had the opportunity to return the card and did not hesitate
In my country ASUS TUF GAMING 4070 ti costs about 1000+ euros
I can't expect anything less than perfection
I prefer ASUS because my motherboard is ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO
But I admit purely visually this MSI is great and it is cheaper than ASUS in my country.
Hey mines coming tomorrow but I’m worried about the psu cables. Is it just 1 pcie cable or like 2
This version of the card requires 2x8pin PCI express connectors. Does your power supply only have one?
It’s alright I found out there is like a cable that turns into two cables. thanks though!
I got it 2 days ago and I’m not using its bracket.
Yeah, I'm not surprised. I just unboxed the MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio and they sent it with the same GPU sag bracket. Not required in my opinion, especially with these lighter cards. That being said, they are longer than more other cards, so who knows. Totally depends on your case.
How are you liking it so far?
what version of msi are u using to oc i try to oc my msi 4070ti trixo gaming x it crashes
I'm using MSI Afterburner 4.6.5 right now. I don't think I've updated it since I created that video. What settings are you using to overclock? I recommend sliding the Power Limit to it's max amount. Then, slowly increase the Core Clock by 25-50mhz at a time.. try it out. With most 4000 series, you can't push it past +150-200mhz on the Core Clock. Then, once that is stable. Start to overclock your VRAM. I usually start at +1000, then do increments of +100. Eventually, it will crash, then you start again and go a bit lower. Let me know if that helps.
@@JohnLCharette same as u had in video
Yeah, you should probably start a bit lower and then work your way up little by little. Depending on the game or benchmark, mine would freeze at those speeds as well.
Hi,
Enjoyed youe video. Nice content and info. Can you help me with this - Should i go for 4070ti = MSI Gaming X Trio OR ZOTAC Trinity OC ?
i have a bit of favor in zotac trinity OC as it provides 3+2 (Total 5 ) years of warranty instead of MSI 3 year warranty. But i think your honest opinion can help me a lot ! 😃
Please do reply me as soon as possible from your end as i will be buying the GPU in upcoming 3 days.
Cheers 1
Good morning Sarvesh! Thank you so much for watching. I would recommend the Zotac Trinity OC. It's still my favourite 4070 Ti that I've reviewed. Please let me know what you end up deciding and your experience once you get it.
Just wish these cards had the text to show which model they are, like my EVGA 3070, i hate it when people come round and look in my machine all to ask what card is that lol >
Same!! EVGA was the best for that. For me, a GPU is a statement piece in my computer. I want people to know I have a 4070 Ti, 4080 etc.. hopefully someone starts doing similar on their next round of cards.
@@JohnLCharette All i ever see is the 'big' branded GEFORCE GTX, like yeah, we know its a gtx thanks 😆
Beautiful gpu.. but not so good for 3xx series.
I agree. I was not a fan of the Gaming X Trio in the 3000 series either. I'm glad they've improved on it.
I bought this card a month ago, and it had the worst coil whine I've heard in over 15 years of building PCs. Unfortunate because the fans were extremely quiet, and the build quality felt very solid.
Oh no, that’s super frustrating. Could you possibly return the card? I’ve been buying all my GPUs from retailers that allow returns such as BestBuy, Newegg or Amazon. I’ve returned a few due to bad coil whine.
@@JohnLCharette yes sir, I already returned it. My only other option was the PNY 4070 Ti because I had some Dell rewards to spend and those were the only two options. The PNY was MUCH better, not perfect but definitely acceptable.
between 4070ti gaming x trio and gigabyte 4070ti gaming oc which gpu should I choose?
I would choose the Gaming X Trio, all day long. I feel like it's a better design and more of a mid-tier'd card. I feel the Gaming OC is a direct competitor of the MSI Ventus (their lower end card).
I love my GTX 1080, but this will be a needed upgrade
Ahh yes, I hope you enjoy the RTX ON ;) I'm testing out an MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio right now to compare it to this card. So far, my gut says go with the 4070 Ti. You made the right choice but stay tuned for my video about it.
can i ask sir,can i use that if my cpu is 11400k ddr4
Good morning. When checking this website: pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/16h1dN/1/general-tasks/1920x1080/ it says that the 11400 is a bottleneck for a 4070 Ti for both 1080p and 1440p resolutions. I recommend upgrading your CPU before buying a 4070 Ti.
My case handbook says the max length of GPU shouldn't exceed 320mm Doh! Wish I'd read that before buying the Gaming X Trio...😭 All is not lost, some slim fans mounted on the outside of the mounting brackets, Jobs a goodun. Sucks a touch more dust in, as the fans are where the dust filter used to be, and closer to the perforated case front.
Ahhh, too bad. The Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC would have been a killer card for you. It's so small. All good, the cooling is better on the Gaming X Trio. As long as you have a solution. If it ends up sucking in too much dust, consider trading it with someone.
@@JohnLCharettedust isn't a problem, been running the system for 12 months + now, excellent results, the cooling solution on the 4070Ti Gaming X Trio is outstanding.
I need some help! I got this card today! I have a Ryzen 7 2700x eight core CPU on low setting 1080p in still getting about 120 FPS which was what i was already getting on my 2080. I'm getting about 70% CPU usage. What am I doing wrong? Do I need a new cpu?
Hey, sorry to hear about that. It must be pretty frustrating after spending a good chunk on money on a new GPU. Yeah, it sounds like you're being CPU limited on whichever game it is you are playing. Each game is a little different depending on the game engine that's been used. What model motherboard do you have? There's a chance you can upgrade to a Ryzen 3000 or even 5000 - the 5800x3D is the best gaming CPU available right now with AM4 socket.
@John Charette I'm not sure off the top of my head what motherboard. It's COD MW2 so it is a pretty demanding game but I've researched before I bought and other people with my same GPU and CPU getting 300 plus FPS. Do you think it would be best just to downgrade to a 3060 t.i. or should I just upgrade the CPU?
I think you should keep the 4070 Ti. It's such a solid card. Just as fast as a 3090 Ti + it has DLSS 3.0. I recommend upgrading your CPU. Do you research and see if you can away with keeping your motherboard. It may require a BIOS update to support newer CPUs, but you should be able to upgrade for cheap enough. CPUs are way cheaper than GPUs ;) Let me know what you end up doing.
1080p gaming with high refresh rates are more cpu intensive than gpu. If you go up in resolution and upgrade the monitor, that would put more load on the gpu and less on the cpu
Edit: you probably have a round 120hz display, those other people have around 300hz display
Great suggestion Jesse!
Hi, what do You think about asus tuf gaming And this msi x trio? Both at the same price 900euro, which one is better in your opinion? I’m buying components for my first build(already bought from msi msi mag b660m and core liquid 360r v2->is it good?) and how big case should I buy?
Thank you so much if u respond me
One of my co-workers just bought the Asus TUF 4070 Ti and he loves it. The main difference between the two cards is the design and size. The Gaming X Trio is about an inch or 32mm longer than the TUF card. I think that's the biggest downsize of the Gaming X Trio is the size. I expect a big card when it's a 4080 or 4090, but in a 4070 Ti, I like the smaller versions. So, performance wise, they'll be very very similar.
I haven't used an MSI Core Liquid 360R v2 but it looks solid. I love that you can spin the top of the water block depending on your case orientation.
What size case? I wouldn't go any smaller than a mid-sized case, such as a Corsair 4000 or 5000 if you're going with the Gaming X Trio. You can go a little smaller with the TUF card.
I hope this helps! Thank you so much for watching. Let me know which case you decide to buy.
@@JohnLCharette really helpful! I’m looking for x trio because it inspires me more, I want a aggressive case like “Case Jonsbo MOD3 Micro-ATX tower vetro temperato Grigio [MOD3 MINI GREY]” or “Cougar Conquer Middle Tower No-Power Vetro Temperato MinITX mATX ATX Nero/Arancione”, in the first one I saw the measure said rtx 4070ti and coreliquid with 3 can be in if they are right even it’s Name has mini, which one will you recommend me?
And which is the best 4070ti card for you?
I would absolutely recommend the Jonsbo MOD3. I hadn't heard about their cases until recently. I saw this build with another model Jonsbo and fell in love! Check it out: ruclips.net/video/ZpdbSn8LP-0/видео.html
how good would this run pared witha ryzen 9 3900x?
I think you'll be CPU limited with most games using a 3900x and a 4070 Ti. This GPU is amazing, but I recommend upgrading to at least a 5800X3D or a 5900X if you want to take full advantage of it.
@@JohnLCharette 5900X then it is
@@BrandyDerg I would get the 5800x3d, i just bought 1 for £250 on ebay new
I agree with @iDTecKt. I used to run a 5900X and it was okay, but the newer 5800X3D is much faster - especially for gaming.
@@JohnLCharette Beast of a CPU and will be the last chip i drop into my AM4, don't forget if you buy from a third party vendor you still get your 3 year warranty as its AMDs own, providing its new and sealed👍
5950x will be better for productivity, forgot to add that, so if that's really important you could take that chip, but purely for gaming, the 5800x3d is the better choice.
can we have gpu oc even if u close the msi program
Absolutely! Once you set the overclocking settings, you can close MSI Afterburner and they'll stay until changed otherwise.
@@JohnLCharette thanks fam
@@JohnLCharettei finally got my gpu i try to oc it and i get a green screen i cant oc it
So mr john the 4070 ti gaming x trio is 1008 Dollars & the 4070 ti asus tuf 949.4 Dollar which is better regardless of price & looks and I don’t mind the size or power consumption or fan noise,
I want a reliable card that don’t have heating problems or like bad build quality like the GPUs from gigabyte JaysTwoCents talked about yesterday
@IBRA506, if you're looking for dependability/reliability, I would lean towards the TUF. They are both great cards, but it's part of the TUF branding that they are dependable. You can save yourself $50. I would only go for the Gaming X Trio because I think it looks better.
@@JohnLCharette thank U for responding , I decided to get the X TRIO because it takes 6 days shipping while the TUF takes 2weeks with amazon I really really hope it doesn’t come faulty I don’t think that NewEgg would accept returning it
I've returned 2 or 3 cards back to Newegg.ca - I'm guessing their US site would be the same. I know they often sell open box items, so I feel like they accept returns.
That's very exciting! I've been so happy with the 4070 Ti series of cards. Let me know your experience. What GPU are you upgrading from?
Here in Scotland it’s £901 and I like the card but I wish I could off got the white one it looks amazing but this one is nice to 😜👍🏻😂🤣
White one?!? I didn't even know there was a white one. Ohhhh, it looks soooo nice. Agreed. The black one is still great, but those all white builds. Can't beat them :) Thanks for the info!
did yours box come wrapped in plastic like the one in this video? i just got one delivered for £800 from scan, wasnt wrapped in plastic or have the outer card board box. im waiting until the weekend before installing it since i have a new PSU and monitor coming. wont be happy if it has really bad coil whine
would this work with my i7 9700 k
Absolutely! I'm testing out an MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio and it's also very good. It's 30% cheaper than the 4070 Ti but only performs 15-25% slower than a 4070 Ti. That could be a good solution if you're on a budget. Let me know what you decide.
@@JohnLCharette thanks as I was not sure if my i7 9700k would bottle neck a 4070 ti card
Cheers
It'll depend on which game you're playing to know for sure. The older the game, the more CPU dependent it is. What games are you playing most?
@@JohnLCharette mw2 and bf2042 and most racing games forza 5 etc
Yeah, those are some newer games that'll definitely take advantage of this GPU - especially MW2 with DLSS 3.0.
My previous 3 cards were gaming x cards, but this time went another brand because the pricing by MSI for the current gaming x is ridiculous. Here, an MSI gaming X 4070 ti is only about 20 US dollars cheaper than another brands 4080. Their 4070 gaming x is about 15 us dollars cheaper than another brands 4070 ti. They got the pricing wrong this gen, i bought another brand. Probably the best card though overall, if you are willing to pay. What i ended up with is about 1-2% slower and 2-3db noisier , which is no big deal, so i didnt think the price was worth it.
Oh wow, that's very interesting to hear about the price differences. May I ask what country you live in? I'm also curious to hear what brand you chose and your experience with it.
@John Charette Australia. And i ended up with a Galax 4070 ex gamer. Happy with it and it was on sale for about 180 aussie dollars cheaper than gaming x. I was previously a gaming x fanboy, but not paying 4070 ti prices for a 4070
me over here with a gtx 1660 that still runs the highest settings on most of my games😐
Any plans to upgrade?
@@JohnLCharette my case is very small its an old prebuilt that ive done a gpu upgrade to but it can only hold a gpu with one fan idk what its fully called so even if i put a 2060 in i would have to remove the whole hard drive bay and all i have right now is a hard drive but i am getting an ssd soon
Ah yes, that's the frustrating part about some prebuilts. They've packed things in so closely that you can't change around the configuration very easily. Have you considering switching cases? Moving over the parts so that you have more room for growth?
@@JohnLCharette if i ever get the chance i probably will it would have to be a case for dtx motherboards which i assume are relatively hard to find
should i get it or the gigabyte gaming oc
Good morning. I'm definitely team MSI Gaming X Trio over Gigabyte Gaming OC. There's been some negative press about Gigabyte. Check out this video by JayzTwoCents: ruclips.net/video/wb5tlHJHVBs/видео.html
@@JohnLCharettethanks for telling me , i think i will get the msi gaming x trio since i love the design and it's the cheapest one in my country. Love your content ❤
Thank you so much and glad I could help. Enjoy your new card :)
I know this video is old now. But I just bagged an immaculate used msi 4070ti gaming xtrio for £480 for my sons new build for Christmas. Plan was to get a 5080. But then they got delayed til Jan. January. So probably swap it out with a 5080 when they do become available 😊. I got it paired with a 7800x3d in the phanteks nv5. Vertically mounted and it looks boss 😎
this is lhr?
From what I know, LHR is a thing of the past but I could be wrong. I haven't mine on any 4000 series card. I know back when I had 3000 series, there was a way around the LHR block (LHR bypass). I didn't think NVIDIA bothered with it in the 4000 series. Are you considering doing some mining with a 4070 Ti?
Mining guys should be arrested till death or till end of time 😅 they increased the prices
I ordered it in white. Without noticing, it's $109 more for white lol
Ha! The dreaded color tax. Yes, white is always more expensive.. but it does look ohhhh so good ;) What case and power supply are you using it with?
@@JohnLCharette I got a white Kediers C590 case, but using a loaner PSU. Can you suggest a good easy connect PSU? maybe 850w? I'm little concerned with the cable clutter i may encounter. Maybe an MSI psu? what do you think?
I've heard great things about this MSI power supply: www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A850GF
@@JohnLCharette that's the second recommendation for this PSU. I'm on it. Thx
@@JohnLCharette Seems theres a G and A GF..unsure which ..cant find review on difference. can you help?