Time to get your helper cutting in. He want get the knife skills unless you turn him loose. Fiberglass vinyl is so easy to learn on . when I got into it we were laying 6 ft inlaid .
my old boss never let me cut vinyl so i learnt by watching i still remember my first vinyl job i was so nervous n probably could have done better been doing it now for 30 years in a local capacity / small town so im not going to bad
Here in the uk we use giant super hooks for cutting in the main body for our vinyls and works amazingly on angled cuts 100% no skirting damage and leaves the edge cut at a perfect 45 angle towards the walls also concaved blades are used for accuracy in those difficult to reach areas around doorways . . If you check out vinyl cutting tools you may have noticed that it’s a hook blade set into a 45 % angled tool.. have a go and see the ease and performance those giant super hooks can achieve..all the best
Ive been doing flooring for almost 20 yrs and i still learn some little things from you on this channel.... not so much the overall basics but i like to learn other installers ways. Ive met these installers that grunt and growl ive been doin this 30 yrs i know what im doing i dont need new ways... i dont get it , why would you not want to learn different ways and combine knowledge and be as good as you can! Thanks for sharing!
Brings back memories I’m in my 60s now but all through my 20s and 30s I installed sheet vinyl for a local carpet store. We got pretty good but NOT as good or as fast as you are. I could not keep out of the glue so we had to spend a LOT of time cleaning up. Those narrow galley kitchens are the absolute WORST. I would have pulled the two loner cabinets just so I didn’t have to work around them.4-5 screws is no big deal. Back then it was 90% felt back and a lot of really cheap easily damaged stuff bc that’s what people could afford. No flash time on the glue- the felt backing had to hit it while still wet. I’ve never worked with fiberglass backed goods. We almost never cut in dry… we’d get the roll positioned, make a few relief cuts roll back and glue. We cut felt back in last.
That’s my favourite trowel handle. It’s nice and low and has a square type grip handle which gives great grip and leverage. Your forearm fatigues less because you’re not fighting the trowel, in my opinion at least.
I do not have a whole lot of experience, self leveling, I have literally only poured two jobs. Both of them were sizable, but nonetheless, I have only done it twice.
Please tell me what a cob is , 5:00-5-03, it couldn't possibly be what Google defines it as. I assumed it was just cardboard tubing to support the roll of vinyl. I'm confused 🤔
I know not gluing it means you have to be careful moving heavy items but is there any other reason glue is necessary other than at the edges. I'm thinking down the road when it comes time to replace it.
Is there something you can put on new OSB flooring to easily change in future where you don’t have to scrape glue & parts of your OSB off like a under layment that holds OSB & vinyl but can change out easier in future. Or something to protect OSB like paint something 1st thats not expensive or tack down or staple rubber flooring that can be easily removed then put vinyl over that & put smooth filler over staples to make smooth before laying vinyl?
Workmanship like yours is very limited and going obsolete these days. I as one who takes pride in my own work and detail, it's nice to see that craft and work still exists.
No. It glues down to the substrate (Concrete or plywood). If your floor is not level you can get concrete board and put it down before laying vinyl or do self leveling pour.
A pair of Carhartt boots. I went on a big commercial job a while back and I had to wear steel toed boots and hardhat and a safety vest while I was there kind of like the boots so I went and bought a nice comfortable pair.
I have a customer wants to loose lay vinyl on plywood subfloor. Would i need to patch and skim coat like you did or is it better to lay new 1/4 ply over the top?
Plus you roll with roller I think no no with pressure sensitive things have changed- just push with a carpet board all is recommended. Old vinyl was rolled recommend. Also a 3/8 Knapp roller is best in my opinion . I do use trowel then roll makes waiting time in half also smoother lay . I used to be certified in many resilient floors and again 1000$ worth of prep you used when underlayment should have been used. I myself couldn’t stand on warranty with nails l seen in old subfloor! I’m sure when you take the new classes you’ll find changes I’ve described. . But you do very good work. Carpet mills will never bend on certification though. I’ve seen them not care all about money and selling.
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Sometime this week I’ll send you papers on pressure sensitive products that we use we had class delivered to Lowe’s on these programs . Rollers are not supposed to be used and you would have to show me or tell me where you think I’m wrong. I carried a perfect score in last two years on anything I’ve ever done . Now I’ll will admit on paper back products and hard goods we used rollers but it’s pretty much stopped in pressure sensitive applications especially when using a Knapp roller . Also could it be your using a congoleum product? I know what Armstrong recommends
@@FloorsbySouthernboys I use a push board or it says push broom . I’ve never been back on any vinyl jobs in along time. I live north of you next state up 35 years experience. Believe me I wouldn’t do anything I shouldn’t. Reason for underlayment is to prevent nails from coming back through only and they will in time. Might be one year might be 10 but wood exspansion will cause such issues. Plus that wasn’t a good subfloor I wouldn’t back it with nails used only if it was screwed.
sheet vinyl made easy yes put quad all round easy that seemed like alot of glue even though you did roll it if its pressure sensitive wich it didnt seem to be runny enough to be so , arent you ment to let it dry /set before you put the vinyl into it most of our vinyls here [australia] now are softback felt i just use a flat trowel with pressure sensitive glue and rub the air out with a board with some carpet in it i would have made some more measures and cut tha baby right down when you had it out side mark a spot on both ends and mark that same spot on the floor at both ends and line them up then fiddle with squareing it up also i would glue it all up before making final cuts just in case it moves when folding it back but if yor using quad its probably not that important thats my 2 cents worth happy days
Yeah, it was pressure sensitive adhesive. I used 16th and 16th 16th square notch which is what you’re supposed to use for a porous substrate. I actually went to the Carpet store and got Seam sealer while the glue was flashing.
Try using a hook knife to cut vinyl in. I went to Armstrong vinyl school and they made and taught you how to do vinyl the right easy way. You’re a carpet guy that can do vinyl but you’re making it much more difficult than it has to be
I have done it both ways and I prefer this way. Might as well only cut it once there’s no sense in cutting paper then cutting vinyl I just do it once and be done.
@@terenceharley7081 I’ve been doing vinyl just as long as I have been doing anything else. When I started floor guys were floor guys, there was no idea Carpet or I do vinyl if he was a floor guy you did it all.
He's right about the hook knife but you don't need to tar paper scribe this, it's not linoleum or forbo that's going to break if you crease it, you'd be taking unnecessary steps bud
Especially with high or mid grade vinyl DO NOT PUT GLUE! I know this from experience. I installed some Top Grade vinyl and put glue under it just to add extra protection ( even when the guy at Lowes told me not necessary when buying ) next thing you know, bubbles. Again don't use glue.... idc who tells you what unless you like bubbles. But anyway sheet vinyl is the way to go!
YES I DEFINETLY AGREE. I bought some high grade sheet vinyl and it did just that when i installed it with glue, bubbled up! The guy at lowes even said you do not have to put glue under this but knowing me i wanted to go all out... then next thing you know bubbles.
The guy at Lowe’s is no flooring installer. Unfortunately, he is not even a floor salesman. He is a Lowes employee and that is all he knows nothing about Flooring. If you use the glue properly, it will be much better than not gluing it.
@FloorsbySouthernboys yes I understand the lowes guy is not a floor installer, but on the box itself, says glue is not required. This is from expirence. But if you feel better putting glue, put glue....
Why didn’t you just lay underlayment down? One layer vinyl- I wouldn’t lay over that subfloor- plus had nails that in time will come through. And I’ll take my carpet knife against you any day lol
a knife is a knife its just what your used to i use a stanley knife 99e [for those that know em ] retactable blade for carpet /vinyl /planks /everything i dont change blades ie hook or straight or whatever i just use the old style straight blade fo everything im wondering if you glue the underlay you mentioned down they have made it a standard here in australia more work n messier
@@jb-es5zj no if you could see how much staples go in it , no need to. Now we do glue subfloors to joices ( spelling) lol . And your right a knife is knife . I use carpet knife because of carpet- cut everything with it even underlayment. Luan- sureply
Sat through every minute of the video, waiting to see how you roll it out and stick it down and you edited that part out ???? sat through stories. We sat through every little corner that you cut and then you edit out how you roll out the lino on the glued floor …. Makes no sense??
@@CULTist45 I charge $1.25 a square foot to install vinyl plus anything else besides install such as floor prep, take up. , quarter round, furniture, refrigerators, stoves anything extra I have to do there’s a charge
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Job turned out good and really glad to see you started using a utility knife instead of that dangerous flimsy carpet knife
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Time to get your helper cutting in. He want get the knife skills unless you turn him loose. Fiberglass vinyl is so easy to learn on . when I got into it we were laying 6 ft inlaid .
His time is coming soon
my old boss never let me cut vinyl so i learnt by watching
i still remember my first vinyl job i was so nervous n probably could have done better been doing it now for 30 years in a local capacity / small town so im not going to bad
whos gunnna take the video then
Workmanship at its finest! You did an amazing job. Thanks for sharing your talent.
Thank you very much
Here in the uk we use giant super hooks for cutting in the main body for our vinyls and works amazingly on angled cuts 100% no skirting damage and leaves the edge cut at a perfect 45 angle towards the walls also concaved blades are used for accuracy in those difficult to reach areas around doorways . . If you check out vinyl cutting tools you may have noticed that it’s a hook blade set into a 45 % angled tool.. have a go and see the ease and performance those giant super hooks can achieve..all the best
Ive been doing flooring for almost 20 yrs and i still learn some little things from you on this channel.... not so much the overall basics but i like to learn other installers ways. Ive met these installers that grunt and growl ive been doin this 30 yrs i know what im doing i dont need new ways... i dont get it , why would you not want to learn different ways and combine knowledge and be as good as you can! Thanks for sharing!
Man you hit the nail on the head right there. I don’t get it either
I've been doing it almost 40. I now use my heat gun to remove seam tape because of this channel lol.
@@jsballeck that’s great Stuff
Brings back memories I’m in my 60s now but all through my 20s and 30s I installed sheet vinyl for a local carpet store. We got pretty good but NOT as good or as fast as you are. I could not keep out of the glue so we had to spend a LOT of time cleaning up. Those narrow galley kitchens are the absolute WORST. I would have pulled the two loner cabinets just so I didn’t have to work around them.4-5 screws is no big deal. Back then it was 90% felt back and a lot of really cheap easily damaged stuff bc that’s what people could afford. No flash time on the glue- the felt backing had to hit it while still wet. I’ve never worked with fiberglass backed goods. We almost never cut in dry… we’d get the roll positioned, make a few relief cuts roll back and glue. We cut felt back in last.
Gotcha
old school i like it
Yeah I thought the same about those two free standing cabinets, I thought you would have pulled those out also, but what do I know, now I do
Awesome video. You do good work and you're absolutely worth learning from. Thanks for sharing
Thank you
Great info on cutting around door openings and corners. Thanks a lot!
That’s my favourite trowel handle. It’s nice and low and has a square type grip handle which gives great grip and leverage. Your forearm fatigues less because you’re not fighting the trowel, in my opinion at least.
I feel the same way
I like the tape trick. I will be doing that now . Thanks.
Awesome glad to be of help
Thanks for the video I have a small project and this was a big help
Hope you do one on non-adhesive vinyl sheet flooring
Certified smooth operation.... 👍🏽
😀thanks buddy
Nice job, i like ardex patch for glue downs, the bond strength is so much better but yeah, looks good dude
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I wanted to see the seaming. Oh, well, I still enjoy watching your videos.
I’m sorry it was a long day and honestly there toward the end of it. I was just focusing on getting done. My bad.
@FloorsbySouthernboys Yea I don't blame ya
Wanted to see that doorway seam with that knife i seen your previous video were you use the carpet blade
Id like to see you teach your audience how to self level. I really need to see it done by you!
I do not have a whole lot of experience, self leveling, I have literally only poured two jobs. Both of them were sizable, but nonetheless, I have only done it twice.
Please tell me what a cob is , 5:00-5-03, it couldn't possibly be what Google defines it as. I assumed it was just cardboard tubing to support the roll of vinyl. I'm confused 🤔
@@whocares34727 you are correct it is the cardboard tube inside of the roll
Try the Crain 727 delphin knife. I have 2 dolphin knives and the Crain is way better than the UK version.
Gotcha
I know not gluing it means you have to be careful moving heavy items but is there any other reason glue is necessary other than at the edges. I'm thinking down the road when it comes time to replace it.
I wish you had a show the calking part.I don't understand how to do this
Hello where did you bought the vinyl at? Do you know the name of the color?
Is there something you can put on new OSB flooring to easily change in future where you don’t have to scrape glue & parts of your OSB off like a under layment that holds OSB & vinyl but can change out easier in future. Or something to protect OSB like paint something 1st thats not expensive or tack down or staple rubber flooring that can be easily removed then put vinyl over that & put smooth filler over staples to make smooth before laying vinyl?
Why not remove the baseboards and then reinstall, eliminating the quarter round?
Workmanship like yours is very limited and going obsolete these days. I as one who takes pride in my own work and detail, it's nice to see that craft and work still exists.
Man, I hear you on that. Peoples work today is anything but good.
Do you put a padding underneath sheet vinyl like with vinyl plank?
No. It glues down to the substrate (Concrete or plywood). If your floor is not level you can get concrete board and put it down before laying vinyl or do self leveling pour.
Whats the new footwear you got there Reuben ?
A pair of Carhartt boots. I went on a big commercial job a while back and I had to wear steel toed boots and hardhat and a safety vest while I was there kind of like the boots so I went and bought a nice comfortable pair.
Much better don’t look like a rental now 💥
😀👍thanks Jerrid
Where did you get the flooring?
I have a customer wants to loose lay vinyl on plywood subfloor. Would i need to patch and skim coat like you did or is it better to lay new 1/4 ply over the top?
I’m dealing with the same thing right now and wondering the same. Did you ever figure it out? And if so how please
Plus you roll with roller I think no no with pressure sensitive things have changed- just push with a carpet board all is recommended. Old vinyl was rolled recommend. Also a 3/8 Knapp roller is best in my opinion . I do use trowel then roll makes waiting time in half also smoother lay . I used to be certified in many resilient floors and again 1000$ worth of prep you used when underlayment should have been used. I myself couldn’t stand on warranty with nails l seen in old subfloor! I’m sure when you take the new classes you’ll find changes I’ve described. . But you do very good work. Carpet mills will never bend on certification though. I’ve seen them not care all about money and selling.
I’m not sure where you are located at, but I will respectfully say that you are wrong on everything you just said
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Sometime this week I’ll send you papers on pressure sensitive products that we use we had class delivered to Lowe’s on these programs . Rollers are not supposed to be used and you would have to show me or tell me where you think I’m wrong. I carried a perfect score in last two years on anything I’ve ever done . Now I’ll will admit on paper back products and hard goods we used rollers but it’s pretty much stopped in pressure sensitive applications especially when using a Knapp roller . Also could it be your using a congoleum product? I know what Armstrong recommends
@@FloorsbySouthernboys I use a push board or it says push broom . I’ve never been back on any vinyl jobs in along time. I live north of you next state up 35 years experience. Believe me I wouldn’t do anything I shouldn’t. Reason for underlayment is to prevent nails from coming back through only and they will in time. Might be one year might be 10 but wood exspansion will cause such issues. Plus that wasn’t a good subfloor I wouldn’t back it with nails used only if it was screwed.
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Mapei product glues
Is that Luke doing the dry-cuts, etc?
No sir
i dont think luke is married [see the wedding ring]
What kind of boots are you wearing?
Carhartt
@@FloorsbySouthernboys Awesome. Thank you
What brand of flooring is that?
I’m sorry but I can’t remember
What are you filming with?
My phone, iPhone 14 Pro Max
Let’s go!!!
Oh heck yeah
sheet vinyl made easy yes put quad all round easy
that seemed like alot of glue even though you did roll it
if its pressure sensitive wich it didnt seem to be runny enough to be so , arent you ment to let it dry /set before you put the vinyl into it
most of our vinyls here [australia] now are softback felt i just use a flat trowel with pressure sensitive glue and rub the air out with a board with some carpet in it
i would have made some more measures and cut tha baby right down when you had it out side
mark a spot on both ends and mark that same spot on the floor at both ends and line them up then fiddle with squareing it up
also i would glue it all up before making final cuts just in case it moves when folding it back but if yor using quad its probably not that important thats my 2 cents worth happy days
Yeah, it was pressure sensitive adhesive. I used 16th and 16th 16th square notch which is what you’re supposed to use for a porous substrate. I actually went to the Carpet store and got Seam sealer while the glue was flashing.
I never use the recommended trowel because they always leave to much glue and have never had any problems
Why not use underlayment
U dont let Luke trim anything?
Pattern scribe would’ve been so much easer and a better job!
Try using a hook knife to cut vinyl in. I went to Armstrong vinyl school and they made and taught you how to do vinyl the right easy way. You’re a carpet guy that can do vinyl but you’re making it much more difficult than it has to be
I have done it both ways and I prefer this way. Might as well only cut it once there’s no sense in cutting paper then cutting vinyl I just do it once and be done.
@@terenceharley7081 I’ve been doing vinyl just as long as I have been doing anything else. When I started floor guys were floor guys, there was no idea Carpet or I do vinyl if he was a floor guy you did it all.
He's right about the hook knife but you don't need to tar paper scribe this, it's not linoleum or forbo that's going to break if you crease it, you'd be taking unnecessary steps bud
@@jonathancowdin3775 exactly
Especially with high or mid grade vinyl DO NOT PUT GLUE! I know this from experience. I installed some Top Grade vinyl and put glue under it just to add extra protection ( even when the guy at Lowes told me not necessary when buying ) next thing you know, bubbles. Again don't use glue.... idc who tells you what unless you like bubbles. But anyway sheet vinyl is the way to go!
Fk that I don't put glue. It always bubbles up... plus that high graded sheet vinyl does not recommend glue.
YES I DEFINETLY AGREE. I bought some high grade sheet vinyl and it did just that when i installed it with glue, bubbled up! The guy at lowes even said you do not have to put glue under this but knowing me i wanted to go all out... then next thing you know bubbles.
The guy at Lowe’s is no flooring installer. Unfortunately, he is not even a floor salesman. He is a Lowes employee and that is all he knows nothing about Flooring. If you use the glue properly, it will be much better than not gluing it.
@FloorsbySouthernboys yes I understand the lowes guy is not a floor installer, but on the box itself, says glue is not required. This is from expirence. But if you feel better putting glue, put glue....
Before I even got away from that vent I'd have some glue on my hands. :(
@@asbestosfiber 😂😂
Why didn’t you just lay underlayment down? One layer vinyl- I wouldn’t lay over that subfloor- plus had nails that in time will come through. And I’ll take my carpet knife against you any day lol
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a knife is a knife its just what your used to i use a stanley knife 99e [for those that know em ] retactable blade for carpet /vinyl /planks /everything i dont change blades ie hook or straight or whatever i just use the old style straight blade fo everything im wondering if you glue the underlay you mentioned down they have made it a standard here in australia more work n messier
@@jb-es5zj no if you could see how much staples go in it , no need to. Now we do glue subfloors to joices ( spelling) lol . And your right a knife is knife . I use carpet knife because of carpet- cut everything with it even underlayment. Luan- sureply
@@stevemuoio1968 yes i dont undrestand why we have to glue it i would hate to have to try n take it up being glued and 100 odd staples in each sheet
You should be using a hook knife not a utility blade to cut it in.
Ok, it was a great video until you didn't show rolling out the vinyl. As a first-timer, that is the part I was waiting for.
You get what you pay for
@@jessv221 sometimes
Promo SM
Sat through every minute of the video, waiting to see how you roll it out and stick it down and you edited that part out ???? sat through stories. We sat through every little corner that you cut and then you edit out how you roll out the lino on the glued floor …. Makes no sense??
What would someone charge for this in the north east?
@@CULTist45 I charge $1.25 a square foot to install vinyl plus anything else besides install such as floor prep, take up. , quarter round, furniture, refrigerators, stoves anything extra I have to do there’s a charge