Every time I see a new right response video pop up in my RUclips video with a caption declaring that it’s ok to be masculine and hate things that are evil a Pavlovian reward signal goes off in my mind and I instantly click on the video.
What you're experiencing is the dopamine rush of confirmation bias. It feels nice when Joel tells you to hate because you're already primed to hate specific minority groups, like trans people or unmarried women. Pavlov is truly relevant here considering the way you respond to right-wing dogwhistles!
This discussion was excellent and timely! In a culture where hate the sin but love the sinner is steeped with grace but lacks truth, this principle has cause us to fail miserably at setting the true example of Jesus’ ministry. I too struggle sometimes with knowing how to practically apply righteous boundaries within relationships with others regardless of their standing with God or not. What does it look like to hate sin, hate sinners but also to love them as well?
Megan wants to crush evil. It breaks my heart that protective and nurturing maternal figures feel compelled to be outspoken because so many men fail to take action, specifically our pastors. Really respect Megan’s work and this ministry.
Thank you guys for saying the sometimes unpopular things that need so badly to be said. May God continue to bless your ministry and may it reach those whole need their faith bolstered in these times. Praying for the church victorious in this post mil. Era. Keep up the good work my brothers.
On Facebook these guys showed up on Right Wing Watch and also on gayish Christian groups, warning about the hate etc. I make sure to thank them for the recommendation.
Awesome show, Pastor Joel. Love your explanation of the Man of Lawlessness. I am a recovering dispensational and when I head you speak of the Man of Lawlessness as the High Priest, I said to myself, “Ahhhhh, that’s it! Perfect explanation.” God bless you.
Pray. Men have cowered to the current culture. We’ve been trained to express ourselves but the men we love, our fathers, sons, husbands, and even some pastors have been intimidated into silence.
There is a difference between your enemies and those who hate God. Sometimes they hate us because of our Christianity, but sometimes they hate us because of our personality. We are not too be zealous for our own selves, but we are to be zealous for our God
I get that all the time! As a theonomist, I get called a heretic all the time and if they don't say it, I get ignored! However, I will not buy into compromising the Truth of the whole of scripture!
For far too long in the professing "church" man's "11th commandment," be "nice" no matter what, has supplanted God's 10 Commandments. Your courage in calling out the lies of the feminist movement and its effects of shaming strong, virtuous men is so prescient.
@@minizimi3790I apologize…I responded to the wrong post…someone asked how could there be Christianity in the OT…So I posed those questions to begin a dialogue…about those who died ‘in faith’ prior to the incarnation….
Joel, anti quoting Jesus by saying "hate your enemies" is a disgraceful way for anyone to speak who claims to imitate Jesus. And for all of those who will call me a "big eva sellout" or some sort of "soft" christian, just know that I am a missionary in a very dangerous country risking my life on a daily basis to take the gospel to God's enemies.
There is such a thing as a distinction between a wicked person and a generally sinful person. The church has lost the ability to see this. Think Jezebel vs the woman at the well. You don’t hate the evil sinner that is indifferent to you but will possibly listen to the gospel message. You are to hate those who actively persecute the people of God and who openly mock our savior and his word.
@@mrich21087 Are the rebellious God hating, vile persecuters of the rightous our enemies? Absolutely. However Jesus explicitely commands us to "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you and bless those who curse you" Luke 6:27-28. To say the opposite might be good for the youtube algorithm, but I have a feeling Jesus isn't too impressed.
@@jordank.5589 I think we need to pray this error gets nipped in the bud. I think that we definitely should have outrage and indignation at the enormities that are committed by the enemies of God but I don't see biblical commandment even in the Old Testament for us to hate any people. It doesn't seem to me that God somehow forgot that we have David in the Psalms talking about he hates God's enemies but He never remembered to actually go ahead and command us to hate His enemies
I have listened to the whole video and the things that are set forth in terms of practical applications of hating God's enemies are things that do not require any teaching of a doctrine of hating God's enemies. They are things that anÿ godly sensible well-informed Christians should buy into.
Love these guys they always speak the truth with Love. Thanks guys for these tough conversation hardly no one else is willing to have. Keep the good work
Great discussion! I look forward to the Wednesday live stream. I like how you spoke on being courageous Christians and having the mindset to win. This is good encouragement to someone like me who has been under premill dispensational rapture teaching for almost 20 years. Postmill is liberating but also challenging to walk in. Its a totally different paradigm!
Proverbs 8:13 had been my memory verse these past few weeks because it's so relevant: *The fear of the LORD is the hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance, the way of evil and perverse lips I hate.* Excited to listen to this later.
This is excellent! We need to hear this far and wide. The body of Christ is so weak and deceived and this Paris event is perfect evidence of how easily deceived we are. 😢
Mr. Webbon, I’ve been watching you for a while. This video finally convinced me to break my own rules and subscribe to your channel. I generally do not subscribe to any channel even if I really like it. And I very rarely give likes to videos. But I decided to like and subscribe to this video to help you out because I know that it is hard to get your stuff out there without monetizing it. And I greatly appreciate the fact that you are able to keep it on the air or more like keep it up while saying these types of things. I hope to attend your conference, but it may not work out for my schedule, but I would be very honored to meet you in person or even talk to you on the phone.
Brother Joel, I encourage you to refrain from using the word Chick when referring to an image bearing woman. I really appreciate your ministry and your voice of reason and biblical discernment, especially during these Anti-Christian times. I only bring this up so you don't unnecessarily bring upon yourself reproach or get discredited by a portion of your speech that could be received poorly. Bless you brother, please receive my comment well.
@@rinihogewoning6528 So, is posting videos about why Christian pastors "suck" at politics and referring to swords as the province of men due to their phallic nature somehow NOT juvenile?
I didn't think it was a good choice of words but I know if I was doing that much public speaking I would probably be making miscalculations of some sort at an equivalent level😉
@@ReformedStudent1689 We need a couple hundred more just like them lol And Christians who will actually listen to them. Maybe then we could take back the USA, and perhaps the world.
@@ReformedStudent1689 We need a couple hundred more just like them lol And a few thousand Christians who will actually listen to them. Maybe then we could take back the USA, and perhaps the world.
Good stuff , Thanks Joel . It's bin helpful to learn to think in categories. I think that is a weakness in many Christians that satan uses to defeat us . We live in a complex world the requires us to use our brain and the whole of God's word . In warfare there is more then just one weapon to choose from .
Jesus said to love our enemies and pray for our persecutors. The devil is playing a slick game, and many are falling for it. YOU had better fear God and check your heart, THEN He can use you lead others to Jesus Christ.
I’m a woman who hates the hypocrisy of Big Eva and the lack of care or concern most Christians have about the times we’re in. Until about 5 years ago I was so indifferent in my faith. I neglected being in the Word. Now, I hate when I see so many other Christians are still where I was. It makes me sick, but I don’t give myself credit for escaping being so lost. I just hope and pray others are shaken out of their apathy, like I was. I love Megan Basham’s book and hope God uses it to pierce through the apathy. God used The American Gospel to reach me.
Really? Matthew 5: 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Thank you! I thought I would be alone. I hear them but we are certainly ordered to love our enemies. In fact, our battle is not against these individuals but against the dark forces behind these individuals.
Matt 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold This is the sad state of American Christianity This man is in grave error. As believers we are to be praying for these people and preaching to them.
1:15:08 - I’m wondering how vocal we should be when speaking out against evil? Should we be calling it out everywhere, all the time, wherever we see it? Do we spend more time aiming than firing? Does it depend on the situation or are we at a point where men need to fight (“metaphorically”) no matter what the circumstance? How much do we risk in regard to our jobs? Sometimes my employer is extremely gay but I also want to feed my family. I assume the minimum requirement is speaking against the evil without abandon when instructing our families.
It is strange to see a title like this, but its true. We are called to love sinners, for Christ loved us while we were still sinners. But we must call out the evil, and hate the evil and hate the evil doer also to whom justice is owed to that person.
If we do not hate the sin and the sinners to the point of pulling them from positions of power over us and prosecuting them for their crimes where appropriate, then we are doomed to live in a world that is as dominated by evil as hell itself. When I look around at the world today, I have to ask myself, will the eternal hell be much more evil than what we Christians have permitted the earth to become in our time? Remember, hell will be populated by the same sinners we allow to corrupt God's world today, along with thousands of years of accumulated enemies of God.
I disagree about a few things such as God not having emotions and the interpretation of loving your enemies like Jesus commanded. We can only hate the enemies of God. I am still glad you guys are out there fighting the good fight.
Yes I agree. I do not think that the biblical doctrine of God being unchanging has some sort of implied corollary that God has no emotions and I don't think that's an at all a necessary implication of that doctrine and really embracing that doctrine forces you into so much non-literal reading of the scripture that it sure seems theologically liberal to me.
Im a woman and i hate things and people deeply. Mind you, i was raised by a father who was a marine, with a step mother who hated me and was not feminine at all, and thre brothers. I am also a mother of three boys. So ive never had girls in my family to relate to, but ive always been very feminine. I just had to figure out what that looked like. But i feel conflicted about my hatred because i think that Jesus said if you hate your brother in your heart, youve committed murder. And ive never ever heard a pastor say we can hate people. Ive heard we can hate sin and in my brain i think that if i haye sin i hate the one who participates in sin, even myself i hate when i sin! Were an active duty military family and mover ever 2-3 years so i dont necessarily have a pastor whom i can sit down and ask these questions of. Were in a very small town and there are no reformed churches here and we attend churchnbut weve had to settle for the best we can find, which happens a lot as a military family. I also dont have a community. Praise the Lord i have my husband who i ask these questions to about my hate aand he has reassured me thatnhe doesnt think its wrong. I just still feel like a bad person for it sometimes and i certainly dont tell people this other than my husband.
We’re in God’s kingdom NOW! If we weren’t, this message wouldn’t be necessary…Jesus said that ALL authority in heaven AND ON EARTH has been given to Him…
Tim Keller was fond of teaching that choosing powerlessness is godly but I don't think he really believed that at all. He was speaking as a clever serpent who was trying to undermine the Religious Right. It was a tactical move on his part. He knew that in order to move Christians to the Left where he wanted them to be, he had to first alienate them from the Right. He knew it required a multi-stage process, not one fell swoop. That is the light in which his giving up power rhetoric should be seen.
Perhaps I misunderstood the first part, but how is it womens fault that things go (politically) wrong? Isn't improper leadership bad no matter male or female? Male leadership has been and can be bad as well. Does it have to do with hierarchy imbalance? Still personally I wouldn't have worded it as womens fault...
Listen, it'll always be the fault of the women. That's all these men ever do - blame women for the state of the world, while simultaneously asserting they are superior to women.
@@cosmictreason2242 Thats from two years ago but okay sure. But I don't see it, female leadership is centuries old, there are toxic males and females and behaviour. It should not be a primary party's fault, just the fault of sin in general in a christian context.
I don't think he actually worded it as women's fault per se. His point is that male leaders today are feminized men rather than men as God created them to be. He is making the point that there is a suppression of natural order at work in what kinds of men are allowed to lead these days, and if you don't grasp that you will misunderstand him
How did Joel arrive at the conclusion that the phrase “clung to” should be substituted for “grasped” in Philippians 2:6? The entire passage that verse belongs to reads as follows: “Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus, who, though he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, assuming human likeness. And being found in appearance as a human, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death-even death on a cross. Therefore God exalted him even more highly and gave him the name that is above every other name, so that at the name given to Jesus every knee should bend, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:5-11, NRSV) In the context of the passage “grasped” appears to be the better reading because the passage is describing Jesus’ willingness to submit to his father rather than supplant him. As the son of God Jesus would naturally possess his form. It does not follow that he would necessarily possess equal authority which is why that equality would need to be “grasped” at. Every Greek lexicon I’ve consulted (BDAG, Strong’s, Thayer) suggests that ἁρπαγμὸν means to seize something, which is further supported by the use of the cognate verb ἁρπάζω in the New Testament, as well as its usages in other ancient sources, such as Plutarch (On the Education of Children, chapter 15). In fact, the only two English translations that translate ἁρπαγμὸν as “cling to” are the NLT and The Message, which are largely dismissed by scholars and rarely preached from by pastors. Even Bill Mounce, who agrees with Joel’s interpretation of Philippians 2:6, still translates ἁρπαγμὸν as “grasped”, which, to me, demonstrates that to make the passage communicate Jesus’ preexistence requires a theological interpretation that reads more into the passage than what is already there. Skip Moen wrote an excellent article about this called “The Assumed Trinity: A look at Philippians 2:6”.
CHRISŢians, is there a "Strange 'Light' and Mysterious" as an alternative to "Dark", that you are aware of? i love the high strangeness stuff as kind of a fun get-away (being paralyzed i do spend a lot of time studying THEOlogy, and they are so Connected). i am looking to think on things Above, and resources to share with my [GOD'S] People. Appreciate any help; GOD Bless n Keep You!
Philippians 2:6 in the King James Bible says the complete opposite. "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" Somebody is reading an incorrect bible.
Not the opposite. You're just misunderstanding because you don't speak Early Modern English despite insisting on reading it. The idea is that of believing that simply being equal to the father rather than superior is unfair. Is communicating the same idea: Jesus wasn't insisting on having a higher Glory but was content / had humility with being in an inferior POSITION despite being equal and no inferior in essence
@@cosmictreason2242 I understand "Early Modern English." Most of us do. The KJB is extremely easy to read and understand compared to the other versions. Are you really going to tell me that "thought it not robbery to be equal with God" and "did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped" are the same thing? You are doing mental gymnastics to avoid the obvious errors of modern bible versions.
@@cosmictreason2242 It would be robbery for anyone else to think they are equal with God. You'd be robbing glory from God. The praise and glory that is His, now goes to some person instead.
@@SupplementalSense so the way you're arguing is you think Jesus thought it wasn't robbing the father to consider himself, the son, the father's equal. So you're supporting the interpretation that Jesus by all rights is God, being equal to God, and yet endured humiliation willingly
There is such a thing as a distinction between a wicked person and a generally sinful person. The church has lost the ability to see this. Think Jezebel vs the woman at the well. You don’t hate the evil sinner that is indifferent to you but will possibly listen to the gospel message. You are to hate those who actively persecute the people of God and who openly mock our savior and his word.
I just have to say, Basham's book at the start is based on hypocrisy. Main thesis of the book: the church sold out to pagan benefactors. What did Basham do? Had a major endorsement by a pagan benefactor who hates Jesus. Rules for thee but not for me
@@cosmictreason2242 Right, the New Covenant made with the house of Israel and Judah (clearly ethnic delineations in the book of Jeremiah, carried over without alteration in the book of Hebrews), of which one day they will be made the full recipients of it ala Romans 11:26-29. But still, how can they be called Christians in the OT when the Christ was yet to come? Wouldn't they just be worshipers of Yahweh?
Christ had come many times. Who do you think it was that wrestled with Jacob? Or came with the angels to destroy Sodom? Who do you think Melchizedek was? Read Hebrews 7 through. The pre-incarnate Christ was all over the OT.
@@TwentyTwoThirtyThree OK, and how does this answer the question about how there were "Christians" in the "OT" before the Son of God was manifested as the promised Messiah TO COME of Deuteronomy 18:15 and not as the theophany we know as the Angel of the Lord, who we rightly assume was the pre-incarnate Messiah? Where is the appellation "Christian" ever employed in the "OT" (or at least before Acts 11:26)? So, thank you for the suggestion, but I am quite familiar with those passages and this still doesn't answer the question. To call the believers before Christ came "Christians" is therefore anachronistic and rooted more in one's preferred theological system and not from careful exegesis of Scripture itself.
@@bellmishpokhe Is your issue with the specific term "Christian"? It was originally used as a derogatory term, so how about we say "elect", "remnant", "chosen", "saints". What's your hang up?
Every time I see a new right response video pop up in my RUclips video with a caption declaring that it’s ok to be masculine and hate things that are evil a Pavlovian reward signal goes off in my mind and I instantly click on the video.
LOL what a great comment. I know what you mean!
@@dukemysterion6239 you, my friend, are experiencing the “right response.”
What you're experiencing is the dopamine rush of confirmation bias. It feels nice when Joel tells you to hate because you're already primed to hate specific minority groups, like trans people or unmarried women. Pavlov is truly relevant here considering the way you respond to right-wing dogwhistles!
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This discussion was excellent and timely! In a culture where hate the sin but love the sinner is steeped with grace but lacks truth, this principle has cause us to fail miserably at setting the true example of Jesus’ ministry. I too struggle sometimes with knowing how to practically apply righteous boundaries within relationships with others regardless of their standing with God or not. What does it look like to hate sin, hate sinners but also to love them as well?
Megan wants to crush evil. It breaks my heart that protective and nurturing maternal figures feel compelled to be outspoken because so many men fail to take action, specifically our pastors. Really respect Megan’s work and this ministry.
Title of Joel's next book. "Loving by hating, God's ability to simultaneously love and hate his enemies and how we should mimic him".
That's certainly a puritan title haha
Found you guys a few weeks ago, what a breath of fresh air in the feminized western church.
God speed gentlemen.
Thank you guys for saying the sometimes unpopular things that need so badly to be said. May God continue to bless your ministry and may it reach those whole need their faith bolstered in these times. Praying for the church victorious in this post mil. Era. Keep up the good work my brothers.
On Facebook these guys showed up on Right Wing Watch and also on gayish Christian groups, warning about the hate etc. I make sure to thank them for the recommendation.
I agree. You don't hate abortion enough. Nor I.
@@jetrpg22 agreed.
@@RightResponseMinistries This was a very good video ty.
Thank you for taking on these topics with such Biblical clarity and courage.
Awesome show, Pastor Joel. Love your explanation of the Man of Lawlessness. I am a recovering dispensational and when I head you speak of the Man of Lawlessness as the High Priest, I said to myself, “Ahhhhh, that’s it! Perfect explanation.” God bless you.
I appreciate the consistency of output from this channel. You guys are theological heavy hitters. God bless👊🙏
Love this truth! Being a woman I do wait for my husband to speak up against this evil. He doesn't always do that😢
Pray. Men have cowered to the current culture. We’ve been trained to express ourselves but the men we love, our fathers, sons, husbands, and even some pastors have been intimidated into silence.
Helpful discussion.
Have to say that the framed logo screen does not fit with this classy set.
Matthew 5:43-48?? Jesus says to LOVE our enemies, NOT HATE them.
There is a difference between your enemies and those who hate God. Sometimes they hate us because of our Christianity, but sometimes they hate us because of our personality. We are not too be zealous for our own selves, but we are to be zealous for our God
I get that all the time! As a theonomist, I get called a heretic all the time and if they don't say it, I get ignored! However, I will not buy into compromising the Truth of the whole of scripture!
For far too long in the professing "church" man's "11th commandment," be "nice" no matter what, has supplanted God's 10 Commandments. Your courage in calling out the lies of the feminist movement and its effects of shaming strong, virtuous men is so prescient.
Was Jesus in the OT? Is Jesus the Jewish Messiah? Is Jesus the Word that became flesh in John 1?
@@andrewbrowne5557 ? According to the Christian beliefs, yes to all three of those. But what is the point of those questions underneath this comment?
@@minizimi3790I apologize…I responded to the wrong post…someone asked how could there be Christianity in the OT…So I posed those questions to begin a dialogue…about those who died ‘in faith’ prior to the incarnation….
@@andrewbrowne5557 ah. Makes sense.
Joel, anti quoting Jesus by saying "hate your enemies" is a disgraceful way for anyone to speak who claims to imitate Jesus. And for all of those who will call me a "big eva sellout" or some sort of "soft" christian, just know that I am a missionary in a very dangerous country risking my life on a daily basis to take the gospel to God's enemies.
There is such a thing as a distinction between a wicked person and a generally sinful person. The church has lost the ability to see this. Think Jezebel vs the woman at the well.
You don’t hate the evil sinner that is indifferent to you but will possibly listen to the gospel message. You are to hate those who actively persecute the people of God and who openly mock our savior and his word.
@@mrich21087 Are the rebellious God hating, vile persecuters of the rightous our enemies? Absolutely. However Jesus explicitely commands us to "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you and bless those who curse you" Luke 6:27-28.
To say the opposite might be good for the youtube algorithm, but I have a feeling Jesus isn't too impressed.
@@jordank.5589 I think we need to pray this error gets nipped in the bud. I think that we definitely should have outrage and indignation at the enormities that are committed by the enemies of God but I don't see biblical commandment even in the Old Testament for us to hate any people. It doesn't seem to me that God somehow forgot that we have David in the Psalms talking about he hates God's enemies but He never remembered to actually go ahead and command us to hate His enemies
I have listened to the whole video and the things that are set forth in terms of practical applications of hating God's enemies are things that do not require any teaching of a doctrine of hating God's enemies. They are things that anÿ godly sensible well-informed Christians should buy into.
@@conceptualclarity So it's click bait at best.
To fear the Lord is to hate evil; I hate pride and Arrogance ,evil behaviour and perverse speech Proverbs 8:13
Love these guys they always speak the truth with Love. Thanks guys for these tough conversation hardly no one else is willing to have. Keep the good work
Great discussion! I look forward to the Wednesday live stream. I like how you spoke on being courageous Christians and having the mindset to win. This is good encouragement to someone like me who has been under premill dispensational rapture teaching for almost 20 years. Postmill is liberating but also challenging to walk in. Its a totally different paradigm!
For the algorithm
Response for the algorithm!
To the algorithm!
The algo!
Put me in this box, algorithms
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Exactly what I've been curious about as of late, thanks guys!
I'm looking forward to listening to this. Keep up the good work, gentlemen!
Proverbs 8:13 had been my memory verse these past few weeks because it's so relevant:
*The fear of the LORD is the hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance, the way of evil and perverse lips I hate.*
Excited to listen to this later.
Baaaaaaaayyyyysssed!
Brothers,
Massively edifying livestream. Thanks both!!
keep up the good work guys. thanks for your ministry
Love your boldness, Pastor
I have read Psalm 139 many times and those verses never rang so true
Thank you
This is excellent! We need to hear this far and wide. The body of Christ is so weak and deceived and this Paris event is perfect evidence of how easily deceived we are. 😢
Mr. Webbon, I’ve been watching you for a while. This video finally convinced me to break my own rules and subscribe to your channel. I generally do not subscribe to any channel even if I really like it. And I very rarely give likes to videos. But I decided to like and subscribe to this video to help you out because I know that it is hard to get your stuff out there without monetizing it. And I greatly appreciate the fact that you are able to keep it on the air or more like keep it up while saying these types of things. I hope to attend your conference, but it may not work out for my schedule, but I would be very honored to meet you in person or even talk to you on the phone.
@@subarujon Really appreciate this. Thank you.
Brother Joel, I encourage you to refrain from using the word Chick when referring to an image bearing woman. I really appreciate your ministry and your voice of reason and biblical discernment, especially during these Anti-Christian times. I only bring this up so you don't unnecessarily bring upon yourself reproach or get discredited by a portion of your speech that could be received poorly. Bless you brother, please receive my comment well.
Yeah, I cringed at that choice of word as well. Please just use respectfull terms.✨️
It’s going to be ok
@@WendyRange I disagree. He is a faithful overseer and pastor who fears the Lord, and he knows what time it is.
@@rinihogewoning6528 So, is posting videos about why Christian pastors "suck" at politics and referring to swords as the province of men due to their phallic nature somehow NOT juvenile?
I didn't think it was a good choice of words but I know if I was doing that much public speaking I would probably be making miscalculations of some sort at an equivalent level😉
Thank you for THIS.
Cannot stand to hear "Christians" say "hate the sin, love the sinner."
Excellent pattern for prayer at the end there guys! Thank you!
Happy to give an algorithm boost!
@@tropicalpines4585 thank you!
By far, Right Response Ministries is my favorite channel!!!
I have two favorites. This one and Reformation Red Pill. Best two on the internet. After these two is Jeff Durbin's channel, Apologia.
I got sucked into this channel after discovering haunted cosmos... awesome stuff
@SavedByGraceAlone92 Ohhh yeah, Apologia is great! They all are!
@@ReformedStudent1689 We need a couple hundred more just like them lol And Christians who will actually listen to them. Maybe then we could take back the USA, and perhaps the world.
@@ReformedStudent1689 We need a couple hundred more just like them lol And a few thousand Christians who will actually listen to them. Maybe then we could take back the USA, and perhaps the world.
Good stuff , Thanks Joel . It's bin helpful to learn to think in categories.
I think that is a weakness in many Christians that satan uses to defeat us .
We live in a complex world the requires us to use our brain and the whole of God's word .
In warfare there is more then just one weapon to choose from .
How can one truly (and perfectly) love that which God loves, unless we truly (and perfectly) hate that which God hates?
Jesus said to love our enemies and pray for our persecutors. The devil is playing a slick game, and many are falling for it. YOU had better fear God and check your heart, THEN He can use you lead others to Jesus Christ.
Oh yeah, this is the good stuff.
I love your works!
Amen. Great stuff!
Excellent, as always, Brothers. A crucial concept that must be regained.
@@samuelj.costner765 amen!!!
I’m a woman who hates the hypocrisy of Big Eva and the lack of care or concern most Christians have about the times we’re in. Until about 5 years ago I was so indifferent in my faith. I neglected being in the Word. Now, I hate when I see so many other Christians are still where I was. It makes me sick, but I don’t give myself credit for escaping being so lost. I just hope and pray others are shaken out of their apathy, like I was. I love Megan Basham’s book and hope God uses it to pierce through the apathy. God used The American Gospel to reach me.
Really? Matthew 5: 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Thank you! I thought I would be alone. I hear them but we are certainly ordered to love our enemies. In fact, our battle is not against these individuals but against the dark forces behind these individuals.
Matt 24:12
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold
This is the sad state of American Christianity
This man is in grave error. As believers we are to be praying for these people and preaching to them.
Our whole livestream last week was dedicated to answering this objection, among others.
Maybe if you guys had ears to hear you would understand. Jokers.
@@TwentyTwoThirtyThree you're so desperate to hate..
1:15:08 - I’m wondering how vocal we should be when speaking out against evil? Should we be calling it out everywhere, all the time, wherever we see it? Do we spend more time aiming than firing? Does it depend on the situation or are we at a point where men need to fight (“metaphorically”) no matter what the circumstance? How much do we risk in regard to our jobs? Sometimes my employer is extremely gay but I also want to feed my family.
I assume the minimum requirement is speaking against the evil without abandon when instructing our families.
Great bible verses on biblically hating evil
heres my comment for the algorithm. Thanks joel for the reminder
such a goated banger, stay based
It is strange to see a title like this, but its true. We are called to love sinners, for Christ loved us while we were still sinners.
But we must call out the evil, and hate the evil and hate the evil doer also to whom justice is owed to that person.
Honestly loving AND hating is a lot more difficult than loving OR hating.
Thanks Joel great points
If we do not hate the sin and the sinners to the point of pulling them from positions of power over us and prosecuting them for their crimes where appropriate, then we are doomed to live in a world that is as dominated by evil as hell itself. When I look around at the world today, I have to ask myself, will the eternal hell be much more evil than what we Christians have permitted the earth to become in our time? Remember, hell will be populated by the same sinners we allow to corrupt God's world today, along with thousands of years of accumulated enemies of God.
You make a great point about supporting Christian businesses. Do you have a list of Christian businesses you like?
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@@Phoenix-wy3qi thanks!
@@RightResponseMinistries you are welcome. Thankful for your great ministry, keep it up brothers
Keep speaking the truth and stand up for the Godly patriarchy!!!
Great video!!! I just discovered your show last month, keep up the Grate work & God bless you!❤
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I disagree about a few things such as God not having emotions and the interpretation of loving your enemies like Jesus commanded. We can only hate the enemies of God. I am still glad you guys are out there fighting the good fight.
Yes I agree. I do not think that the biblical doctrine of God being unchanging has some sort of implied corollary that God has no emotions and I don't think that's an at all a necessary implication of that doctrine and really embracing that doctrine forces you into so much non-literal reading of the scripture that it sure seems theologically liberal to me.
Im a woman and i hate things and people deeply. Mind you, i was raised by a father who was a marine, with a step mother who hated me and was not feminine at all, and thre brothers. I am also a mother of three boys. So ive never had girls in my family to relate to, but ive always been very feminine. I just had to figure out what that looked like. But i feel conflicted about my hatred because i think that Jesus said if you hate your brother in your heart, youve committed murder. And ive never ever heard a pastor say we can hate people. Ive heard we can hate sin and in my brain i think that if i haye sin i hate the one who participates in sin, even myself i hate when i sin! Were an active duty military family and mover ever 2-3 years so i dont necessarily have a pastor whom i can sit down and ask these questions of. Were in a very small town and there are no reformed churches here and we attend churchnbut weve had to settle for the best we can find, which happens a lot as a military family. I also dont have a community. Praise the Lord i have my husband who i ask these questions to about my hate aand he has reassured me thatnhe doesnt think its wrong. I just still feel like a bad person for it sometimes and i certainly dont tell people this other than my husband.
Helpful message that is biblically sound
Amen
Thank you, scenario questions were especially helpful
Great topics to discuss
Thank you for providing us with such great content!
I love these conversations and clear teaching.
Great Message guys!
Thank you
There will be no lovers of sin,in Gods Kingdom.
We’re in God’s kingdom NOW! If we weren’t, this message wouldn’t be necessary…Jesus said that ALL authority in heaven AND ON EARTH has been given to Him…
Thank you Lord Jesus for you both 🙏
Tim Keller was fond of teaching that choosing powerlessness is godly but I don't think he really believed that at all. He was speaking as a clever serpent who was trying to undermine the Religious Right. It was a tactical move on his part. He knew that in order to move Christians to the Left where he wanted them to be, he had to first alienate them from the Right. He knew it required a multi-stage process, not one fell swoop. That is the light in which his giving up power rhetoric should be seen.
Perhaps I misunderstood the first part, but how is it womens fault that things go (politically) wrong? Isn't improper leadership bad no matter male or female? Male leadership has been and can be bad as well. Does it have to do with hierarchy imbalance? Still personally I wouldn't have worded it as womens fault...
Listen, it'll always be the fault of the women. That's all these men ever do - blame women for the state of the world, while simultaneously asserting they are superior to women.
Watch his video on Should women be allowed to vote to understand
@@cosmictreason2242 Thats from two years ago but okay sure.
But I don't see it, female leadership is centuries old, there are toxic males and females and behaviour. It should not be a primary party's fault, just the fault of sin in general in a christian context.
I don't think he actually worded it as women's fault per se. His point is that male leaders today are feminized men rather than men as God created them to be. He is making the point that there is a suppression of natural order at work in what kinds of men are allowed to lead these days, and if you don't grasp that you will misunderstand him
It was bringing the French Revolution to its logical conclusion
Yay!
With this said, is it a sin to pay taxes to a government that we should HATE. Am I promoting evil by obeying?
Very helpful!
Normally I agree with you but here I draw the line. Home grown kale is delicious.
Great podcast
@@JohnMiller-so7mg really appreciate it.
Just a little-stitious!😆
Is there any way to donate in GBP?
@@Phoenix-wy3qi Go to rightresponseministries.com.
Thank you!
How did Joel arrive at the conclusion that the phrase “clung to” should be substituted for “grasped” in Philippians 2:6? The entire passage that verse belongs to reads as follows: “Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus, who, though he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, assuming human likeness. And being found in appearance as a human, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death-even death on a cross. Therefore God exalted him even more highly and gave him the name that is above every other name, so that at the name given to Jesus every knee should bend, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:5-11, NRSV)
In the context of the passage “grasped” appears to be the better reading because the passage is describing Jesus’ willingness to submit to his father rather than supplant him. As the son of God Jesus would naturally possess his form. It does not follow that he would necessarily possess equal authority which is why that equality would need to be “grasped” at.
Every Greek lexicon I’ve consulted (BDAG, Strong’s, Thayer) suggests that ἁρπαγμὸν means to seize something, which is further supported by the use of the cognate verb ἁρπάζω in the New Testament, as well as its usages in other ancient sources, such as Plutarch (On the Education of Children, chapter 15).
In fact, the only two English translations that translate ἁρπαγμὸν as “cling to” are the NLT and The Message, which are largely dismissed by scholars and rarely preached from by pastors.
Even Bill Mounce, who agrees with Joel’s interpretation of Philippians 2:6, still translates ἁρπαγμὸν as “grasped”, which, to me, demonstrates that to make the passage communicate Jesus’ preexistence requires a theological interpretation that reads more into the passage than what is already there. Skip Moen wrote an excellent article about this called “The Assumed Trinity: A look at Philippians 2:6”.
Very interesting. Thank you!
What's the location for the speaker event, that's important if you want people to sign up
you should put a link to your patreon in every video description. make it as easy as possible for people to give you money. lol
CHRISŢians, is there a "Strange 'Light' and Mysterious" as an alternative to "Dark", that you are aware of? i love the high strangeness stuff as kind of a fun get-away (being paralyzed i do spend a lot of time studying THEOlogy, and they are so Connected). i am looking to think on things Above, and resources to share with my [GOD'S] People. Appreciate any help; GOD Bless n Keep You!
I completely agree!
If men had done their jobs, Megan would not have had to do it for them.
Good job guys keep it up.
thank you good Gods man🙏🏻
"Having a form of Godliness but denying the POWER thereof....."
Excellent topic
Philippians 2:6 in the King James Bible says the complete opposite. "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" Somebody is reading an incorrect bible.
Not the opposite. You're just misunderstanding because you don't speak Early Modern English despite insisting on reading it. The idea is that of believing that simply being equal to the father rather than superior is unfair. Is communicating the same idea: Jesus wasn't insisting on having a higher Glory but was content / had humility with being in an inferior POSITION despite being equal and no inferior in essence
@@cosmictreason2242 I understand "Early Modern English." Most of us do. The KJB is extremely easy to read and understand compared to the other versions. Are you really going to tell me that "thought it not robbery to be equal with God" and "did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped" are the same thing? You are doing mental gymnastics to avoid the obvious errors of modern bible versions.
@@SupplementalSense tell me why you think equality with God would be robbery. And robbery of what?
@@cosmictreason2242 It would be robbery for anyone else to think they are equal with God. You'd be robbing glory from God. The praise and glory that is His, now goes to some person instead.
@@SupplementalSense so the way you're arguing is you think Jesus thought it wasn't robbing the father to consider himself, the son, the father's equal. So you're supporting the interpretation that Jesus by all rights is God, being equal to God, and yet endured humiliation willingly
Christ vs chaos 😳
I listen to your podcast mainly on Spotify.
2024 anyone...?
There is such a thing as a distinction between a wicked person and a generally sinful person. The church has lost the ability to see this. Think Jezebel vs the woman at the well.
You don’t hate the evil sinner that is indifferent to you but will possibly listen to the gospel message. You are to hate those who actively persecute the people of God and who openly mock our savior and his word.
Wickedness at the 2024 Olympics? Who cares. If your talking about hating people because there sinners, then that's damnable.
The biblical illiteracy revealed in the comments is both saddening and maddening…
I’m pro-vigilante. Sue me.
I just have to say, Basham's book at the start is based on hypocrisy. Main thesis of the book: the church sold out to pagan benefactors. What did Basham do? Had a major endorsement by a pagan benefactor who hates Jesus. Rules for thee but not for me
But as long as she doesn’t talk bad about the chews then they will allow it. Maybe she will actually do a deep dive one day and get Candiced.
Also, how were there Christians before Christ came (as Joel seems to imply when he refers to "OT Christianity," or "Christians in the OT?"
Those who believed in the promise of the new covenant.
@@cosmictreason2242 Right, the New Covenant made with the house of Israel and Judah (clearly ethnic delineations in the book of Jeremiah, carried over without alteration in the book of Hebrews), of which one day they will be made the full recipients of it ala Romans 11:26-29. But still, how can they be called Christians in the OT when the Christ was yet to come? Wouldn't they just be worshipers of Yahweh?
Christ had come many times. Who do you think it was that wrestled with Jacob? Or came with the angels to destroy Sodom? Who do you think Melchizedek was? Read Hebrews 7 through. The pre-incarnate Christ was all over the OT.
@@TwentyTwoThirtyThree OK, and how does this answer the question about how there were "Christians" in the "OT" before the Son of God was manifested as the promised Messiah TO COME of Deuteronomy 18:15 and not as the theophany we know as the Angel of the Lord, who we rightly assume was the pre-incarnate Messiah? Where is the appellation "Christian" ever employed in the "OT" (or at least before Acts 11:26)? So, thank you for the suggestion, but I am quite familiar with those passages and this still doesn't answer the question. To call the believers before Christ came "Christians" is therefore anachronistic and rooted more in one's preferred theological system and not from careful exegesis of Scripture itself.
@@bellmishpokhe Is your issue with the specific term "Christian"? It was originally used as a derogatory term, so how about we say "elect", "remnant", "chosen", "saints". What's your hang up?
How is Trump lawless?
Supporting LBGTQ sounds like lawlessness to me.
well, Trump is a convicted felon, a longtime friend of Epstein and was found civilly liable for assaulting a woman.