Fastest External SSD Storage Enclosure Tested For M1, M2, M3 Macs and Win
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In this video we build the fastest external M.2 Storage SSD Enclosure that we tested at over 3,300 MB/s. If you are looking to add external SSD storage to your M1, M2, and M3 Mac mini, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, or even Mac Studio and Win PC then this is a perfect external M.2 NVMe SSD enclosure to build. This is the Satechi 40 Gbps USB4 NVMe SSD Pro Enclosure (Model: ST-EU4NPM).
This external storage enclosure will also be perfect for the M3 Mac mini when that comes out and provides up to 16 TB of extremely fast external storage. So if you need a ton of external storage for your Mac and especially Mac mini then watch this video. This will also work on Win PCs as long as you format the drives correctly.
In this video we discuss the following products:
(Satechi ST-EU4NPM External M.2 USB4 Enclosure)
Satechi 40 Gbps USB4 NVMe SSD Enclosure - amzn.to/3wlbPcV
(WD SN850X - Recommended Drive)
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(WD SN770 - Drive Used and Tested in Video)
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(Other Possible Drives)
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I only tested the SN770 with this enclosure and I would visit the Amazon page to see what others are using if you are using another drive. Thanks.
Nice Info
Can you suggest & share Link of a NVMV 500 or 256GB 3000MB/s or higher SSD & a Closuer for it with Type C Built in, so i don't need to worry about Type C wire to carry around
I want to use it to back up my Videos from Z Fold 5 & Laptop
Please
Hi Craig, Did you notice any overheating issues with the enclosure?
Does it have backwards compatibility with usb 3.2 gen 2x2 ?
Will it give higher speed other ssd since 40gbps should give around 3800 mbps ?
How do you think the Acasis 40gbps Thunderbolt 3/4 enclosure would perform with the same as this one with the same SSD in it ? If not why?
What's the fastest SSD enclosure with a Thunderbolt official certification ?
Thanks for your reviews, Craig! I got the 1TB Samsung 990 Pro and getting 3100+ MB/s on both read and write with Blackmagic on my 13" MBA M3. Anyone tested the WD SN850X?
Thanks for the data point. I have not tested the SN850X yet but will let you know if I do in the future.
IMPORTANT ! If you are ordering the wd sn850x to use with this enclosure DO NOT order the one with the optional heatsink. It will not fit! I found out the hard way lol
Yes, thank you. You need to order the one without the heatsink and thanks for the tip.
@@craigneidel cheers Craig. I'm really happy I watched your video and now have the same setup. Thinking of getting a cooling pad or whatever they're called for inside the Mac but maybe not needed dunno
there's a reason why the Satechi is the fastest. It is the only one that has a pcie4x4 controller. The others have a pcie3x4 and with overhead you are limited below 3 GB/s. Imo, I tried the Maiwo one which is slightly slower but has a detachable fan but it is currently almost $50usd and half the price of the Satechi which is a big deal considering the USB4 enclosures are mostly around the $80-100 mark
Yes, price can be a factor and the difference of a little speed most people won't notice. I don't even thing 95% of people really need more then 1000 MB/s but I know people like the fastest stuff.
Can you expand on the maiwo? What ssd did you use with it?
@@craigneidel Thank you! Is 1000mb/s still good for most people if it's a boot drive?
Thank you for the video. Last year I built two 2TB SSD, need a new enclosure for a 4TB but I think I will go with the Samsung 990. Very leery of WD these days with all the HD drive and SD card issues they have had and supposedly hid from the public and failed to recall.
I can only go off experience and with the SN770 I have used that for like 2 years and moved it between 20 enclosures without issues. So it has been a solid performer for sure.
@@craigneidel That is why you have backups for your backups x 3..
Thanks for the review Craig. Those are some pretty impressive speeds for an external enclosure.
Yes, it's pretty impressive. I think it might be capable of the 3,800 MB/s. It's not for everybody but if you need that speed it's nice to have.
Just bought this Satechi with SN850X 1TB, got the 2500MB/s for both reading and writing on my Macbook Pro M1 8gb RAM :) Thanks for this video
Thanks for watching the channel.
Since my original questions to you, I took the leap and bought the Zike z666 enclosure, with the ASM2464PD main control chip. Installed the WD SN850X 2TB NVME. I set it up as the boot drive 2 months ago and it's working great. I set up my video editing applications to use my internal drive as the cache drive to take that load off the external drive. Black Magic reports that is running around 3100 read/writes. Boots up just as fast as the 500 GB internal drive. The enclosure runs just a little warm under loads. My only complaint is that there is a firmware update available for the enclosure but the update only comes as a windows .exe file. I've tried writing their tech support but the don't seem to understand my english questions. I asked if it would be safe to unplug my enclosure and update the firmware from my windows PC. But they didn't seem to understand my question. Since it's running smoothly, I'll just keep it the way it is. My thanks to everybody that made comments.
Thanks for the follow up and info on this. It helps everybody out.
Interesting enclosuer I'm still happy with the acasis with the WD_BLACK SN850X 4TB. I'm currently looking for an 8tb samsung 2.5 ssd but prices are eye watering. I have the red orico drive enclosure ready to house it, but price is too crippling at moment for my wallet. Apparently there been a spike in nand prices.
Yes, the Acasis works good also. The pricing on the SSDs went up for sure so I would wait a bit for them to come down.
Hands off the QVO, if that's what you are eyeing up. Terrible drive, loses speed fast, has terrible performance.
Stick to SN850X or 990 Pro, both very reliable.
Yes, unfortunately, prices are currently up, NAND chips are scarce and will take some time to cool off.
I used a QVO to boot Mac OS on for 5 years without issues. It all depends on what you consider terrible perofrmance.
I heard this drive only works over USB4 and not via TB4 .. is this right?
I would check with the Amazon page and Satechi. I have only tested it on the configuration that I had in the video but will follow up if I test again.
Crazy thought but is that fast enough that you could install and run windows on the external? Always thought that would some 007 level stuff.
I boot MacOS off these all the time so I'm sure it would.
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And it works on a MacBook you say?!🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I have done a few on enclosures like this on my channel and they will all get somewhere around there depending on the enclosure and drive. It can help with moving apps or fast storage for sure.
I bought same enclosure with 2TB SN850X and not getting anywhere near these speeds on M3 Air 8GB 256GB. Getting 1,100 MB/s Write on a 116GB Photo library and 300 MB/s Read. Is the issue my computer? More likely the enclosure or the SSD?
The enclosure might be bad. I'm not sure why you might be seeing that. I did a few other reviews of the Acasis, Minisopuru, Qwiizlab, and Zike Thunderbolt enclosures. Maybe try one of those. The Qwiizlab one I did a video on seems to work good. Search for this video on my channel to see that one - Must-Have MacBook Accessories You Didn't Know Existed! .
Craig I did this exact setup. Thank you for the recommendation!
Thanks for watching the channel. Appreciate it.
I tested. WD SN850X SSD 2 TB (MacOS APFS) + Satechi 40 Gbps USB4 NVMe SSD Pro Enclosure + M3 Max 36 GB RAM MacBook = 1014 MB/s. What am I doing wrong? All equipment is suitable according to this video!!!! There are even more.
Yes, I have not seen that before. Maybe try a different cable. While I didn't test that drive I see others were able to get the higher speeds with that setup so not sure yet what could be causing that.
I thought thunderbolt 4 40Gb/s was limited to 22Gb/s for data? Impressed it’s able to go above 2800MB/s
Yes, tested it a few times and this is what it is getting both in synthetic tests and real world data tests (on this exact setup).
Does anyone know where I can find the 8tb version? Any links? Thank you!
8 TB version of what?
Thanks for the video. It would be interesting to see comparisons with Sandisk professional pro-g40 4tb
I may not be doing any new videos on this one but any drive you use that is close to the SN770 will generate speeds around that 3,000 MB/s or higher.
Hello Craig, I have watched several other reviewers and I protest your characterization of yourself as a small RUclips reviewer. Your videos are consistently excellent and very easy to understand. I put you at the top of the list!!
Appreciate that for sure. Hope you like the videos and it's nice to hear people are getting something back from watching them.
Great video, but i would highly recommend using proper tools for your tests, a stop watch and a simple copy don't reflect real performance unfortunately.
I'm not familiar with mac but there is probably caching going on in the background that would lead to an illusion of real fast speed but in reality the drive is still processing the data so even if your copy is "done" on the OS, if you unplug it your data will be corrupted / missing on the drive.
Tools like dd or fio can help you tune and test sequential and random write/read with various settings.
Windows for example to avoid data loss with people removing their drive too soon, only display the transfer in "Sync" mode meaning it will not complete a transfer until the cache is empty.
On the other hand most linux distros don't.
The filesystem will also impact performance as you mentioned in the video.
I bought the SSK USB Drive you reviewed and was really unsatisfied.
On the video and the product page the claim a sustained 500MB/s transfer speed...
In reality the write speed will slow down drastically to around 70MB/s after 10GB (Probably cache size) and the drive temperature would go up to 61°C.
So i was pretty happy to see you drop a 100 GB file on this video.
Have a great day :)
Thanks but the testing is to show people what is out there and is a product showcase. This type of tests on the Mac are fairly accurate as moving data shows how the device performs under load with multiple files. I can remove (dismount) the drive right away so nothing is being copied after it's finished. Yes, this is only a product showcase as all my videos are and then I tell people to always do research. But, the 100 Gb of data test is a good one for sure with these fast drives and this should hold up well beyond that.
Can i move apps such as after effects and priemer pro onto the drive and will it work fast ?
I have not tested moving those but it is fast with any work like that. But you can try and to see if it meets your needs as all setups are different.
hi, can i use this enclosure and SN770 SSD for daily gaming ?
@@pakkz. I don't see why not but you really don't need that much speed for gaming.
Posting here to Confirm the contents of this Video. I have a Mac Mini M2, 8GB Memory, with 256 GB Hard Drive. I needed some space. Used the links in this video and set it up today. This thing hums! I moved a lot of my files and non-Mac apps over to my 2TB SSD, and it has made a difference! My Machine is faster and everything opens up much quicker. I use MS Excel, for work on this Machine and it handles the heavy data I am running through it. This is by far one of the best and most useful recommendations for any of my Apple Products! If you are running out of space or your machine is bogged down....get this set up.....Oh, and yes, I speed-tested this bad boy, and honestly, my results were even a little faster! I'm not sure if the links offered here are Affiliate links, but just in case, toss Craig some credit and click on his links to buy this set up. And I just clicked subscribe!
Thanks for the nice message and I'm glad that it is working great for you. Appreciate the Sub also. Thank you.
Thank you for your video.. Can I use SN850X SSD w heatsink on the Satechi ST-EU4NPM? Is it going to fit inside ?
I didn't test that so I'm not sure. I would go to the Amazon page or website and see if they list that in the comments.
Great review! I am trying to find faster m.2 SSD enclosure, and your video popped up! I have a SN850X 2T, definitively gonna test it once I get this enclosure!
I only tested sn770 but let me know how your test goes.
@@craigneidelThanks for the very informative video! I just ordered the Enclosure.
is it any faster than these tests with the faster drive?
The reviews on Amazon are horrible for this enclosure.
It does have a 4.3 out of 5. Not sure what you mean. Of course there will be some bad reviews and that is true on all products.
Hi , great review ,, have you tested the Acasis tuv 405 pro enclosure, wonder how it would compare with this ??
I have it and should do a test in the near future.
@@craigneidel would be awesome to see the comparison speed, Any chanche you did it? I need to choose between satechi and acasis asap
Just bought this enclosure with the WD Black SN850X 2TB and I am impressed. Copied a 41.44GB folder of stuff off it and on to my SanDisk 1TB SSD on my Mac Mini i5 (basically across the USB-C ports) and it pulled it in 1m:23s, which is about xxx Mbps. Crazy fast! Doing the reverse and writing to the 850X was even faster at 1m:15s or about xxx Mbps. Thank you for the recommendation! (I think the speed calculator website I used was in error or used incorrectly. I'll get better numbers.)
@@kwik01 thanks for sharing you data set. Appreciate that.
@@craigneidel I think I need a better test methodology. I wasn't sure if you really meant MB/s or Mb/s... if it's MB, then holy crap I am leaving a lot on the table. I just tested this drive using an 8GB RAM disk on my Mini and was still only able to get 1534 MB/s read and 1100 MB/s write to the Satechi.
It's MB/s - so they are very fast.
what 16tb ssd would you recommend to use with this? very interested
16 tb. Not sure to many 16 tb m.2 SSDs are out yet.
@@craigneidel yeah I did some digging and I didn't realize the market was so new. 8tb and higher stuff has barely even reached the consumer scene.
That having been said, if my priority is biggest capacity what extant choices would you recommend right now
Fantastic Video. Is this also possible on a Mac Mini M2 ?
Yes but I have also showcased a bunch of other great Thunderbolt enclosures so check out my channel for all of them. I just did a video yesterday too that includes a nice one. Thank you .
thank you for this amazing review Craig.
Is there an external enclosure for Samsung 990 PRO with Heatsink installed to the drive?
I have done a bunch of videos on Thunderbolt enclosures but just don't have that drive to test. I would maybe ask the company on the Amazon page.
Thanks for thos helpful video!
If I used Satechi M.2 Enclosure with Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB on Macbook Air M1, will it give me speed of R/W up to 2,500mb?
Maybe but I didn't test that drive and don't have it. The EVO is only about 3,500 MB/s on paper so it may be close but I think you could get that.
Hi Graig, thanks for making this video. It helps me to find thing that fit my needs. I needed a fast external SSD for Mac games. I bought it with a Crucial NVME pci4 SSD drive. Second time that I buy something from your recommendations (the BenQ was the previous purchase)
Thanks for watching. Yes I do initial product showcases to show people what is out there. Always do research to make sure it fits your needs as I'm only one person but thanks for watching and supporting the channel. I appreciate it for sure.
i think about buy one for gaming does it work great and how much the hot it got ??
But why? Other than getting excited about speed tests, what real purpose does a Thunderbolt external drive actually serve? Sure you can transfer 100GB of data from your internal SSD in 30 seconds. Yipee. How often does anyone do that? Does it really matter if it takes 1 min 30seconds to transfer that same amout of data to an SSD inside a USB 3.2 gen 2 enclosure?
There is no difference in real world performance with a USB 3.2 gen 2 vs. a Thunderbolt drive. Your computer never needs to access data any faster than what a USB 3.2 gen 2 can deliver. But for less than the cost of the Satechi Thunderbolt enclosure alone you can get a USB 3.2 gen 2 enclosure plus an NVME drive. I really hate seeing people throw away money chasing theoretical benchmarks that ultimately mean nothing to the performance of their computer for day to day use.
If you have watched my other videos I say most people don't need more then 800 MB/s but there are use cases where you do need more. It's for people that might be running the MacOS off the external or if you do all your editing 4K or music production etc. on the external drive. Plus many other applications for this. It's not so much about how quickly you can backup up a few files, even though those do matter for a business when moving 1 or 2 TB files, but it's about running apps and other things off these. But, I have worked at a datacenter for 25 years and even backing up data quickly especially when very large datasets can be critical and even needed for many businesses. For instance if something goes down and needs to come up or the data needs to be back on the server the difference between 30 minutes and 2.5 hours is the difference of millions of dollars. Quick backup of data can mean the difference for many businesses. So I would argue what you said that nobody needs this. But, does the average person backing up a few photos need this? No, but even for me I can edit off this with no slowdowns and put applications on this and it works like the internal drive.
@@craigneidel I have watch many of your videos and really enjoy them. I edit 4K video from a 3.2 gen 2 SSD (~800MB/s) with zero issues. Your mileage may vary, but I have yet to experience an editing bottleneck from my external SSD. Thanks for elaborating in your reply on very specific use cases where a Thunderbolt SSD would be of benefit. My suggestion would be that you weave that sort of information into your videos as well. Otherwise the implied message is "faster is always better", which in day to day use for most people is not the case. The result is people end up spending money on items they may not actually need nor could ever benefit from.
Yes, but I think the people that are seeking out these more expensive options are people who want it or know about it in some capacity. In most cases I would say about 85% of my viewers would just pick up a Samsung T7 and be done with it. But if you want to build your own SSD and want it to be fast that is a special crowd. People will compare pricing but it's actually not that much more any longer but yes still more expensive for sure. In any case most of my videos are not so much reviews as product showcases. I used to state that in every video until people told me it was too much. But in the end I need to assume somewhat that everybody need to be responsible and do their own research on anything they watch or read as I'm only one person. At the end of the day my test enclosure could be great but 100 others may not be. I usually only test one setup. So, that is why I like to say it's a product showcase. Anyhow thanks for watching again and the info. Appreciate it.
I'm guessing you have never had to do a 3D render before, or do some CG editing work using Cinema DNG files in unreal engine. if there is no market for this, i doubt these many different companies wont be producing it
Why, because some of us use our computers for real video work or photo editing or other database work were read/write speed actually determines how long a task takes and time is money so shorter times allow more throughput. For instance I do chip design and it can take a long time to design rule check (DRC) a large design or actual simulate it.
great video, I've heard this is the fastest on the market --> Express 1M2
It might be around the top performers for sure. Thanks for watching.
How does these speeds compare to the speed of the Mac’s internal SSD drive ?
It depends on what Mac as they are all different. This is like twice as fast as the base model M2 devices with only 256 GB. It's maybe slightly faster or the same of macs with 512 GB. And slower then macs with 1 TB.
@@craigneidel wow didn’t expect that !
Could one put a virtual machine (parallels) on a external ssd drive and have that still properly working ?
I don't see why not. You can actually boot an entire Mac off an external SSD also but that is for another conversation. Things like video editing off it also. Thanks.
I just purchased both the Satechi and the SSD for my MacBook and it doesn't show up, even in Disk Utility, very sad
Mine works and many others has worked too so I'm not sure what that could be. What SSD do you have? Try using another cable or flip the cable and see if it shows up in disk utility then. It could be a bad unit I guess but please try some of those things and make sure the drive isn't formatted in a Windows Format too.
@@craigneidel I bought the Satchi enclosure and the recommended SN850x. I have put it all together well, even flipped the cable around, nothing. It powers up fine. Shame as I have watched this video so many times and both items finally arrived today
Just an update for everyone, I updated my operating System and it was found instantly, and it is lightning fast. Very Happy, thank you.
@@garybrooker5723 ok thanks for update
Hi Craig, thanks for the thorough and unbiased info/review! Came across your channel as I was looking for this exact content. Watched your video a couple of times and did some research. Just ordered this Satechi! Thank you for such a review. New Sub here!
Good luck with everything. Just give it a try and if it doesn't work for you return it. I only tested the SN770 but I know others have tested other drives with great success and a few issues (small but there) with other drives but not sure yet on the list. In any case they are fast when you have a drive it likes.
Thank you for the review. I’m a programmer and plan on using this enclosure and SSD to run Linux.
It seems a lot of NVME enclosures come with a fan nowadays. Does this enclosure performs well overtime without one? Will it overheat if used to run an OS?
They will all run pretty hot but I would check the Amazon page to see if others used it to run an OS. I was doing an initial product showcase so I didn't test it running an OS. If I do in the future I can update this.
@@craigneidel Understood. Thank you so much for the reply!
Welcome.
Does your heat tape make connection with the case? I don’t think mine does
I forgot but I normally add a thicker piece or a second one to make sure it touches. I remember that the one they gave us is really thick and I guess it could also depend on the size of the M.2 Drive that you have in there. But if it doesn't reach I would add a second piece.
@@craigneidel I hear ya. I have the WD sn770. Not sure if that helps. I have the piece that comes with the enclosure but I’m not sure it touches since it seems the enclosure is a bit recessed on the inside.
@@JayMacPhoto78 yeah I always keep some backup heat tape so I normally add until it touches
The Amazon description of the recommended drive says, "(3) Requires the WD_BLACK Dashboard (Windows only)" but you're using a Mac. No issues?
So far I have had no issues but with that exact setup and test machine.
In my Apple M1 Pro Max Mac Studio 2022, my thunderbolt 4 ports reads USB 3.1 Bus in Hardware Settings USB. Will I get 40 Gbps transfers if I connect this USB 4 enclosure? I recently purchased a Crucial X10 Pro drive which was supposed to have transfer speeds in the 2000+ and my transfer rates were around 10Gbps.
I have not tested this on all the systems but with the M1 Pro Max I think you should. It worked on my M1 Air.
I’ve decided to get a 40 Gbps enclosure that is backwards compatible with USC-C and will accept the 4 different NVMe sizes. That way it’s future proof. Ugreen and OWC make an enclosure that meets this.
Nice, and good luck with everything.
How are you getting such a fast write speed? I have an M1 Max 16in and I’m only getting 1970MB/sec! Is there something that I’m missing? I have the exact same drive in the same enclosure
It's possible that you have a bad enclosure or drive but I'm not sure beyond that. I have tested it multiple times and that is what I got.
@craigneidel, thank you for the information & videos on this subject. Was hoping you could say how long these devices have lasted/how reliable they've been for you. Appreciate it!
So far it's working fine. But like I say I'm only one person with one experience with the device.
Craig I did this exact setup but am getting much lower speeds (2000 write and 3000 read) on an M1 Max. What could be going on?
@@rayqand5068 not sure to be honest. Maybe a bad drive or enclosure but I would think it should be close.
What kind of company designs a computer with crippled external data transfer rates as the only alternative to its non-upgradable internal drive options.. none of which can compete with PC internal drives released more than 2 years ago? Evil? Nah.. just blinded to the point of stupidity by greed.
Yeah, but I used to use Win laptops for 30 years. After switching to an Apple product I it's the only thing I use. They have the best build quality, screens, CPUs, etc. so you have to take the good with the bad.
have you used these with Samsung 990 Pro 4TB SSD? thanks.
No I have not at this time. Thanks.
I think ascasis 405 pro is good option price is same as this 100-105 doller with 40gbs speed and also come with fan and temperature is also cooler than other enclosure crystal disk info is software in windows we can check temperature of ssd and health of ssd
Yes, that is a good option too.
How does it compare to the Zike Drive enclosure or the Hyper Drive. They both claim the fastest speeds.
They are going to be similar.
Did you test it as a boot drive as well? I am interested how it behaves when it comes to memory swapping vs the internal one. I know that it if you have a 1TB internal it is probably faster, but it would be a nice if you could use it without hiccups for the lower internal storage variants.
I have not tested it as a boot drive yet. I'll let you know if I get any time to do that in the future.
Another great video. I’ll probably buy this drive enclosure. Thanks!
Thank you. This one is pretty good considering all the others. It has performed well with that setup but I have not tested other drives yet. But I'm hearing it should work well with other drives too.
Best recommendation for a 4tb SSD? @@craigneidel
I have not used one yet but will update this if I can test any. I would search online for some reviews and see what they recommend on the 4TB models.
@CraigNeidel
Is it normal for this enclosure to get hot, may be more like warm to touch even when the drive is not used?
Yes they all move heat to metal so pretty normal in my opinion.
Hi Craig! What about battery drain when using an external ssd?
I have measured that directly but it's minimal.
Hi. Craig. These drive enclosures are going for the Aus $ equivalent of 94 US$ here in Australia now. I’ve ordered one and a 4TB Crucial P3 which seems to be the best bang for your buck for this amount of storage. I really appreciate your down-to-earth common-sense reviews. Best wishes for your venture.
Thanks for the info and good luck with everything. Usually in Australia the costs are higher so it's good to hear it's only $94 US there.
what speeds did you get?
Hello, Can you share your test speed please, i got the same nvme an plan to buy the enclosure, thanks ❤
I just ordered this for editing on FCP. Hope its just as fast as my samsung t9
It should be fast enough for any editing.
Hello, thanks for this video, I got an nvme crucial 4to gen 3, whats performance could I expect with this case in term of speed? Its for MAO, loading samples and vst banks. Thanks ❤
I didn't test that drive and only tested the one in the video but I would assume it should be close.
Are you still using the Satechi? If so any issues so far, especially to do with failure or overheating? Amazon reviews are not too great the Acacias has a higher rating but less speed.
So far so good with everything but I always tell people that I'm just one person. I would not also worry about a few hundred MB/s difference as you won't notice it.
Is a 10 Gbps Enclosure enough ? as the write speed is only upto 5000 Mbps ?
10 Gbps enclosure is only capable of around 1250 MB/s but actually lower with overhead (more like 1000 MB/s). You need to convert bytes and bits. So 10 Gbps / 8 = 1,250 MB/s in theory but with overhead you normally get about 900 to 1000 MB/s.
Just picked up a UGREEN CM642 for $90. USB4/TB4, quality metal case, built-in fan, 40gbit/s yada yada yada. I'm using the same WD Black SN770 drive as you do in your video (1TB version). With an Intel 12th gen Framework laptop, it reached a CrystalDiskMark 8 64GB sequential read score of 3736 MB/s, and write score 3111 MB/s. So on par with the unit you recommend, just $10 cheaper and probably stays cooler thanks to the fan.
Yes, thanks for the info. There are so many out there and I have showcased about 7 so far. They are all going to be similar so research and get what is best.
can you test with small files like 10MB each with data alternating 1 and zeros
I'm not doing any more testing on that unit but I would do a quick search to see what is on Google for it. That may have been done already. Thanks for watching.
Would this work as a boot drive for a 2017 iMac 27”? If so, what SSD do you recommend getting with it?
I have not used it for that and I only tested the SN770 but that drive works great.
My silicon M1 Mac Mini has always had problems recognizing my 2 tb external drive. Any ideas would be a big help.
Do you mean this enclosure?
@@craigneidel no it’s a portable hard drive
@@georgesenda1952 maybe it needs to be formatted to work on Macs.
i have 14 ssd 990 pro and got the alexsis, w/e for my pc, but its such apain to have one enclosure switching back and forth between comps. wtih the screws THIS IS GREAT HAKNN YOU.
but fuck I wanted to see how you put it in.
No screws. It has slider to open up case.
Thank you for such an informative video. I have also heard a lot about Zikedrive 40 GB/s nvme enclosure , would love to see your review of it.
I never heard about that one but will look it up.
Garbage and bad quality drivers, crashes when using big files 100gb+
My seagate fire 530 comes with heatsink, does the enclosure have enough space to fit it in? Thanks
I only tested it with the SN770 so maybe see if you can ask manufacturer that.
youtube titles in the future be like M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6, M7, M8, M9...
They keep coming out with new models for sure.
Just purchased the same setup from Amazon and used your links, hope you got the refs, thank you for the video 💫
Thanks for that and good luck with everything.
sequential easy. no randomized read benchmark though
It is what it is but still a nice enclosure.
please test "disk utility raid-0" with 2 thunderbolt drives
If I get some time but I would also search the amazon page and the comments.
Will this enclosure take the WD Black SN850 with heatsink? Or is the heatsink too bulky?
I'm not sure as I don't have that but I would see what they say in Amazon questions as it could be there.
Are you able to edit video with files stored on this drive arrangement?
Yes, for sure.
9:49 how did you test it without connecting to your mac? Am i missing something?
Funny.. I test it multiple times before making the video so I'm not fumbling around while filming. I have the device for a month or more before filming usually.
Is 30 seconds really enough time for things to heat up? I plan to use this tech as an air-gapping solution where 3-4TB are backed up off a server with enterprise NVMe. It could be running a good 15 minutes or more. Would this solution maintain the same speeds over that time period?
Things are going to heat up on just about any of these Thunderbolt enclosures for sure. I haven't really tested one where it won't get a bit hot etc. but as long as it doesn't overheat (any enclosure) they should still work. I would just test it out first with your specific environment.
Getting 3K+ both ways with WD850 thanks for the review. I am having a little trouble with cable, it disconnects very easily if I move the drive.
Did you try maybe another cable to see if you are still getting that issue. I would let Satechi know.
@@craigneidel I let them know waiting on response. Have not tried another since I'm in temp house waiting on my new one to be finished and all my shit is in a shipping container. lol
Ok, good luck and thanks again for the info.
The speed is important, but I am looking for the most reliable enclosure in terms of heating and durability. Can someone recommend an enclosure that you have been using for some time without any problems? Thanks.
It all comes down to the drive you are using etc. on heating and how you cool it with the way you add quality thermal pads etc. The one from Graugear has been working good and has a fan but of course I have only had it for a few months.
@@craigneidel thanks a lot!🙏
Could anyone please advise ..
Is this combination suitable /workable without to much speed loss , to store a virtual machine on (parallels -W11)? Or should one not ? and have it on the Mac Mini itself
I think it would work on this as the speed is there at the same speed as the mac's drive but you can test it and return if not what you like.
Is it worth it to get a faster NVMe SSD for this enclosure if the enclosure bottlenecks the drive? I was looking into getting a WD770 but went with a crucial p3 instead. Since the enclosure is limited to TB4 should I get similar speeds from both SSDs?
I only tested the sn770 so I can't really answer that since I'm not sure how other m.2s perform with it. I'll let you know if I can test more in future but my videos are more product showcases to show people what's out there.
I don't see any of those SSD using a heat sink, nor does it seem to facilitate a good thermal connection to the metal enclosure (the gap is too big and the metal lid is too thin). Could you elaborate on that a bit?
I just buy very thick heat tape from Amazon for times when it doesn't touch and I then make sure it is touching the case. They will still get hot but I think it performs better that way.
Which ssd brands are suitable for this box?
I would check out the amazon page. I only tested the SN770 in the video.
Great video. I've received my Satechi enclosure today. Going with Samsung 990 but I just can't format it on my iMac. The error code is -69877. Also the same error in the Diskutil List command. Could anyone please help me?
I'm not sure what that could be. I didn't test that drive though. Did you reach out to Satechi on that error?
@@craigneidel I finally fixed the issue.The FileVault encryption setting in the new iMac with the new chip banned the secure erase options for SSD. I format the SSD in my Windows then it finally functions on my iMac right now.
Ok, thanks for the follow up and tip on this.
Can I boot all Mac OS from an external SSD on iMac 5K 2017?
Yes it should work fine. I boot my 2017 from external ssd
Criag, great work by the way! I was hoping you could cut through the maze of choices and give me your simple combination of hardware for an external SSD for my 2017 iMac 27". It's the 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core I5, with 24 GB 2400 MHz DDR4 Memory. I've watched a ton of your videos so know there are many SSD routes, but what would you recommend today for my machine? I'm not a gamer or super user. I do a fair amount of video production and need faster iMovie for sure.
I really only do product showcases on these not full reviews as I have a bunch of these coming in and do the initial testing. With that said I think they are all very close. Note that you may not get the same speeds at what you see in the videos as the 2017 has older Thunderbolt connections and I would need to test this on my 2017 iMac if I get some time to see which one works the best. Acasis works great too and so does the Qwiizlab on my M1 or M2 Macs but I will need to test on my 2017 soon. Maybe reach out the the companies and ask what to expect in the meantime and see who actually emails you back. Then go with that company for the support side.
@@craigneidel Thanks again! Great videos!
Welcome.
Will it work with iMac 27 2020 so fast?
I didn't test it but if it has a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 port it will work but maybe not quite as fast.
I'm planning on buying the recommended products here-- the enclosure, and the 2tb WD. If you notice when looking at the WD, it says there are two options: normal and with a heatsink. With the heatsink, would it still fit the enclosure?
Also, I'm planning to import a lot of files into this, but I also plan to game off of it (World of Warcraft), and the game is heavy. Would that work nicely or should I be looking at other options such as
SanDisk Professional?
I would not get it with a heaksink because it may not fit. I think that should be fine for gaming.
@@craigneidelthanks much! I bought the 4tb one.
Nice
Before ordering, just to confirm if this is compatible w/2023 mac mini pro. Thanks.
Also ordering the SN850X w/Heatsync. That's really what I wanted to be sure works with my mac mini pro. Thanks again.
I don't think it will fit with the SN850X with the heatsink, make sure and get the one without the heatsink to make sure it fits. I only tested with with the SN770 and the M2 MacBooks etc. but I assume it would work fine with the mini as well.
@@craigneidel The dimensions for SN850X w/Heatsync: 3.15 x 0.92 x 0.35 inches. w/out Heatsync: 3.15 x 0.87 x 0.09 inches. Satechi enclosure: 4.45 x 2.68 x 0.91 inches. What do you think??
Hey Craig, love your reviews! I bought an Inateck external SSD enclosure, with a Samsung 980 1Tb, works very good, with 1 remark. The Temperature! It gets hot, even in idle situation. AT this moment I replaced with my Sandisk external ssd, which is slower (750 vs 3200Mb), but does the job without extreme heat. Do all the fast SSD casings get hot? Thanks!
Thanks for watching. All of the Thunderbolt enclosures do get quite warm when using them. I only tested it with the SN770 and not sure if they 980 runs hotter or not in the case. Thanks for the info on this.
I see the 1,500 MB/s being called weak an the 5,000 MB/s being called over kill on top of overkill XD
I'm not sure what you mean. I have many videos where I tell people 900 MB/s is enough but I do these product showcases to show products is all.
@@craigneidel hehe an just finding it funny how people keeping debating the value of these so hard XD
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 Yeah, a ton of people think they need 3,000 MB/s but then use it to transfer 50 GB of data every now and then. They should just get a 10 Gbps enclosure then. But for some reason people love to have the fastest storage and I just test them and showcase the products.
will this get enough power (4,5 watt) to connect to my phone 15 pro and record proress (this will use usb 3.2). So my question does it work with usb c 3.2 in addition to thunderbolt?
I will need to test this but have not yet. I'll post once I do but also check the Amazon page.
Thank you, did a ton of research and couldn’t find out if it will work or not. I ordered it anyway and hoping for the best.
The store I bought it from had to order it to them from distant storage, so I still have the time and option to cancel if it doesn’t work if you do a test.
In order for the test to be valid you will need to take footage that last long 20-30 min. A lot of ssd will slow down and lead to drop frames.
Got it and thanks for the follow up.
I'm a bit baffled by all this. I am keen to buy waht you suggest to use with my M3 Max but I read that the M3 etc cannot utilise the full speed of the Samsung T9 because of port limitations and yet this device is giving much faster speeds than a T9 would. How is that possible? Is the connection just different somehow? Many thanks.
Yes for sure, these enclosures are full Thunderbolt 40 Gbps enclosures so with overhead and bytes and bits conversion they are capable of about 3,300 MB/s normally. But the T9 is really just a 10 Gbps enclosure on a Mac although it can also do 20 Gbps if you have the 2 x 2 format which states up to 2,000 MB/s. But you won't get that on a Mac as it basically uses the 10 Gbps throughput.
@@craigneidel Fantastic. Thank you so much for clearing that up. Really appreciated.
Welcome.
I know this video is 4 months old
But here is a quick question:
Will this work on an Imac 27 inch 2019 fusion drive?
I want to boot off an external drive as some apps are running slow.
Not sure whether to install an internal drive or use this?
Many thanks and a great channel.
I'm not sure you will get as fast as speed but it should work. If anybody has tested it please post below. I will also see if I can do any tests in the near future.
@@craigneidel That’s excellent.Thank you 👍
Welcome
As a newbie I’m confused how does the enclosure determine the speed? Doesn’t the NVMe, cable and usb c or usb gen make a difference? Also what about heat?
there are 40 Gbps enclosures and if you divide by 8 (bytes and bits) then that enclosure can usually do around 5,000 MB/s but for this Thunderbolt has limits for this so other process have bandwidth so it's normally much lower. With overhead around 3,500 MB/s. But of course the drive needs to be at least this fast to get those speeds. With a 10 Gbps enclosure - divide by 8 - you get about 1,250 MB/s max but with overhead expect around 900 to 1000 MB/s. So the drives do matter but there are limitations based on the enclosure for sure (and computer or plug it connects to).
@@craigneidelthank you Sir. Really do appreciate the detailed answer. I’m glad I found your channel.
@@westfield90 welcome
The SN850X doesn't fit in this enclosure...it's to high😢... I don't recommend
Does it touch or fit tight or not at all?
@@craigneidel doesnt fit at all ...its to high so the case wont close
Ok, thanks.
Hello! Love your channel. What mic do you use for recording ? The sound is always clear and crisp.
I think for that video I used a Lav which is my Zoom F2 32-bit float recorder. I also use a Tonor stand mic now as it's sometimes easier etc. Thanks for watching the channel.
Hey Craig, when the unit states “up to 16TB”, is this a advertisement scheme or does this mean when it’s raided together with another 8TB (RAID0) to get 16TB?
Cause I looked everywhere, and can’t seem to find a single 16TB NVMe M.2 stick!
Yeah I'm not sure. Maybe post question on Amazon page and they should get back to you. Might just be ready up to 16 tb when they come out soon.
Sir Is there any way to know about a replaced battery of a macbook is genuine or not? I mean a genuine battery or a 3rd party or knokoff battery?
I'm guessing that info is posted online somewhere as far as markings on the battery.
you can buy that and a nvme and its still cheaper then getting 256gb from apple LMAO
Yes, and even put in quite a large drive. If you put in 4TB then it really saves you some money.
Yup its also faster.... that's embarrassing if only this was possible for ram @@craigneidel
Yes, Ram is going to cost you for sure.
Do you think that it would work with a Gen 5 disk
Not sure but I would ask them on the Amazon page. I didn't test with Gen 5 and not sure if you would want to put that in a Gen 4 enclosure.