Sam is also weak against electricity and gas. Soldier Boy seemed immune to almost all gasses, with only a vapor nerve gas harming him. Soldier Boy wins.
@@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 You are correct, it didn't technically harm him, but it did incapacitate him, allowing him to be captured, experimented on and kept in cold storage. So, that's what I meant by harm.
@@starbrand3726 The gas alone didn't do shit to him. He was getting constantly being given even a dose that could flatline any other supe and all it did to him was give him a nap.
@@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 And putting him to sleep places him in a vulnerable position, therefore ANYTHING that does that to a super being is technically a weakness even if it is only a nap.
Soldier Boy is near Homelander level, Sam is near Queen Maeve level. Anything Sam does, Soldier boy does better. Soldier boy is more Durable, Strong, Jump power, Reaction time, Fast, and has more destructive capabilities. Soldier Boy wipes the floor with Sam.
Soldier Boy is above Homelander in terms of power level since Soldier Boy can always disable other supes powers. Sam would not win. Soldier boy would simply disble his powers then kill Sam.
@@zcnaipowered7407 and few "weak" teenage supes could hold sam for some time where to hold soldier boy they would neet few butchers and probably soldier boy would still free himself
clearly, there is no question about that...not mentioning Soldier boy's experience regarding combat and his ability to cancel the power of another sup'...so Sam is done the moment Soldier boy wakes up.
@@zcnaipowered7407 Remember that he got his radioactive powers after decades of nuclear testing on him, which seems to have mutated him. Before that, him, Maeve and Sam all had more or less the same powers, although it is assumed Soldier Boy was the strongest of his kind (essentially all standard super soldiers with all athletic capabilities at superhuman levels.)
@@zcnaipowered7407 No he got beat pretty quickly by homelander, the blast is ineffective on homelander as it take too long to charge and homelander is super fast and can fly. The only way he can beat homelander is if he has a team to restrain homelander so he can blast him. In terms of strength and durability homelander is almost twice as strong seeing as how he beat soldier boy pretty easily when they went 1v1. We are told the Luke would have been "homelander strong" and Sam is even stronger then Luke that means older Sam would likely be above Soldier Boy in terms of raw strength so soldier boy would have to rely on the radiation blast to win.
You can tell Sam lacks any type of training and only goes off his emotion. If he ever did receive any type of fighting or skills training, i think Sam could be dangerous
@@timothyscott1951 When has Soldier Boy ever fought recklessly like Sam had against Marie, Jordan, and the others. Man was the first guy to give Homelander a bruise and was peacing him In a 1v1 until they temparily stalemated when John cought his fist.
@@timothyscott1951 Soldier boy do not fight in a reckless manner(Except when using his "nuclear blast". He seems to be more skillfull than Homelander if you ask me tho Homelander is slightly stronger and slightly faster.
I think everyone is overlooking Sam’s jumping it not a ability it’s how strong he is and being held by Emma and the dumpster and refrigerator is because he is a kid that had been locked up. I think Sam doesn’t know how strong he is I don’t necessarily think Sam could defeat starlight with no training but strength wise he is top 3 in either shoe just my opinion
@@chrismeandyou that wouldn't be a win/instant kill but it would hurt/blind soldier boy enough to give homelander an edge. Flying wouldn't be as much of an advantage as you may think.
@@chrismeandyou Butchers laser is the same strength as homelanders and sb tanked it straight to the face from point blank rang, only resulting in a small scratch.
@@solaire07 flying speed is actually a really good advantage. Homelander didn’t capitalize on it as much as he should’ve. I’m assuming due to the budget of the show they couldn’t but flying speed is def a strong feat.
I think Sam’s powers are very all over the place because of his schizophrenia, and if he could learn to control himself and get his mental state under control he’d be able to do WAY more damage. All that, AND he’s still only a kid. It probably makes sense that Supe’s powers get stronger with age sort of like puberty, so tbh I could definitely see Sam putting up at least somewhat of a fight against someone like Soldier Boy ( maybe not Homelander yet) in the future. Every scene of his strength has shown that he rips through people like pieces of paper, VERY similar to Homelander and Soldier Boy. It would be so dope to get a third individual who’s considered overwhelmingly dangerous to the public because of how powerful they are, and maybe even someone who isn’t a sociopath or narcissist like we’ve seen twice now.
I disagree Soldier boy is almost as strong as Homelander if not stronger The reason why soldier boy is way strong and could stand up to three sups, including Butcher (Homelander power), is because of his experience and combat training. Don't forget his deception and how he tracked his former team. I believe Sam can be as strong as Maive.
An interesting note about soldier boy is i think he's stronger than we realize. When utilizing his blast it seems to weaken him for a little while. He's always limping and staggering after. When he went up against homelander it was right after using it so he seemed already exhausted but still strong enough to throw homelander around and even stalemate at certain moments. When he was at full strength he was rag dolling every single supe who came at him. An interesting note about Sam is i don't think he's grown into his powers yet. He's 18 or 19 and constantly plagued by schizophrenia. I wonder what he'd be like in his physical prime at 21 and absolutely pushing his limits. Not far behind queen Maeve i reckon if not already on par.
@@dranixrush3306soldier boy literally grabbed homelander by the face and was about to vaporize him until Ryan lasered him from the side and saved homelander 😂
@@dranixrush3306 the face first of all.and no there was not anyone else helping him.he was gripping homelander by the face and charging up his radiation until Ryan lasered him and saved homelander a life.go watch the show again
Sam does well against regular joes. But Polarity and other sups seem to subdue him pretty quick...I don't think that would be the case with soldier boy.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08he’s as strong but I think because he’s been locked up for so long and he doesn’t really get too train properly so he can’t really use his strength as effectively as Maeve and other supes
@@orkwarboxthe1rst208 Even then, he'd probably still beat trained supes like starlight and possibly atrain. He's as of now, probably around black noir level, and black noir is top 3 in the 7
@@orkwarboxthe1rst208 Also, I'd like to know who you think would win, black noir or storm front in the show? I'd say black noir purely because he destroyed starlight way easier than storefront did. He also showed us he can hold his own against a fully bloodlusted homelander in a fight in the boys: diabolical season 1 episode 8.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 in my opinion if stormfront just stays in the air and spams lighting she would win eventually just because his throwing knives would do little damage unless he gets some lucky eye shots but if storm front gets cocky which she does alot she’s gonna go in for a fist fight especially because noir is black and she’s racist so she’s not gonna fight correctly she’s gonna try too make it personal
I have a theory that Sam will become Black Noir. It would fit perfectly if Sam goes missing at the end of the season. Then we could see the new Seven introduced, and Homelander would be shocked to see that Black Noir is back. Homelander might try to roughen up Noir, but he wouldn't get far. Noir’s mask would have a layer of Zinc that prevents anyone from seeing his face. Homelander would see that Noir also seems to be even stronger than before, so It could be an almost equal match for him.
I honestly like that idea cause I don’t really want a homelander clone like in the comics seemed pretty lazy tbh but yea like the idea hope they use some parts of it
Solider boy is a walking bomb that nullifies supe powers I’m a huge fan of Sam and he has the potential to beat a lot of characters in the boys but right now without further experimentation or training I don’t think he’s beating Solider Boy
@@grathic99grathic60no...Sam has no chance against soldier boy...if you remember his skin was able to be pierced by that needle whereas almost nothing has been able to pierce soldier boys' skin...I dont think sam could even one punch soldier boy not even close
Sam has psychic powers it’s been shown on at least 3 occasions pulling the codes for guards manifesting himself in Luke’s mind and resistance to Kate’s powers
I don’t think he’s immune to it. I think he just knew better and would never ever let her near him. Cate has been shown putting him to sleep with her ability.
@@Zerbzie yes I’m not talking about cates push powers that is universal every human has a will and she can manipulate that her actual mind altering forget this even powers don’t affect sam
@@postsniper-7532 I don’t think she can push him to do much more than sleep, I agree he is resistance. But not immune His mind is broken but his memory is perfect.
@@postsniper-7532 he also didn’t pull the codes, he just has a really good memory and is really smart. The guards thought he was just a zombie from all the meds and experiments and would enter the door codes with him looking right at them. And then memorized them all
I think all of them are much stronger than they know.. Like a clear example is Andre, he's clearly a Magneto styled hero yet we've only seen him do really simple shit.. I think we'll see him do far greater things in season 2.. But its the same with the other heroes.. Cate takes those pills/sams always on meds/Marie is only now understanding that she can blood bend.. And Emma getting big, she could eat a fuck ton and crush anyone.
@@h3llboyyy407it makes me wonder can she just get big without it being intentional, like if shes just hungry and eating alot would she still get big 😂
Emma isn't that powerful and more than likely has a disadvantageous power, if she wanted to get bigger than she did in episode 4 and 5, she'd have to eat a LOT like you said, that might kill her, she might have a heart attack or something. Eating as much as Emma needs to get bigger than she previously was would kill a human
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 sure but she's a supe. We saw her in Episode 5 get even bigger, and she clearly gains a ton of strength in that form. I'd put money on them saving her getting ultra big for season 2. If it was going to kill her, I think we'd just see her belly expand, that would be the warning.
@@traviscue2099 If she truly could just grow as big as she wanted, it would be an outlier, she'd eventually get so big she'd be stronger than homelander, if they make literally every supe close to homelander on the power scale it's going to be annoying and boring.
Sam is a Soldier Boy/Black Noir type character. All of his powers come from physical capabilities, or at least those we've seen so far. Whether he would defeat Soldier Boy or not would depend on the state in which Soldier Boy would be found, because on the contrary he is a much better fighter than Sam. Still, Sam is just as brutal as Homelander and so I don't doubt he would put up a good fight.
Yeah but as of now Soldier boy is far more durable and far stronger. They were able to keep Sam strapped down to a table and pierce his back with a needle. They also were able to contain him in a metal room and keep him there against his will. He got out when Emma killed the guard Greg. They also tased him into submission. The Russians had to keep soldier boy heavily sedated, locked down with steel clamps and shackles.
@@Bitchslapper316 For now but they said Luke could grow to be nearly as strong as homelander and they also said Sam was even stronger then Luke. Homelander was noticibly significantly stronger then Soldier Boy. So I would guess that an older sam would be between Soldier Boy and Homelander in terms of raw power.
@@moe5020 They never said he can grow as strong as Homelander. They said he was much stronger than Luke and Luke doesn't have any impressive strength feats. From what we seen from Luke he wasn't any stronger then Starlight. Homelander also wasn't noticeably stronger than soldier boy. He got the upper hand on him in thier first fight but that was right after SB depleted all his energy blowing up herogasm. SB was still confident enough he could take Homelander to go and try and kill him. Homelander is probably stronger but it's not by large amount. Both would bury Sam. Sam at his peak is probably Maeve/stormfront in strength but Homelander and SB are on another level. Sam probably gets killed by Marie in the finale.
@@Bitchslapper316 sam probably isn’t even up to Maeve and Stormfront. Meager electricity knocked him out and a needle pierced his body. He’s probably black noir level strength wise
@@nelsonogbuigwe7500 Yeah I am guessing that is about how strong he is as well. Based on feats Luke and Jordan are not any stronger then Starlight, they may not even be as strong. The doctor said Sam was stronger then Luke so I imagine that is about Black Noir strength. Noir has ripped humans apart with his bare hand like Sam. I also don't think Stormfront was as strong as Maeve. Kamiko and Starlight were able to stager her with punches and kicks. Kamiko almost broke her neck until she was shocked. She seemed about Black Noir in strength as well but has that powerful electricity.
i think it is very soon to compare sam to other supes because we still don't know how powerful sam really is or how powerful marie really is after we watch end of the series then we can talk about (who would win) because for now we only know sam has superhuman strength +durability
as much as i love sam, i really dont think he's that much of a powerhouse, and i think the only reason why its been so hard for the group to subdue him is because their lack of experience/weaker skill set, and because of how unpredictable sam can be. But if sam were to go up against practically any supe from The Boys, i feel like they could subdue/incapacitate him pretty easily. So, its not really a question of how strong he is, but really how much weaker/inexperienced his opponents are in comparison.
@@BrainPilot Dude. I don't think Sam can beat Maive. So how can he beat soldier boy who's almost as strong as Homelander. Also apart from his experience and combat skill, you forger to mention his deception and good at tracking and studying his opponents. That's why Soldier boy is way stronger than Sam. Anyhow, I appreciate your video
The gas that knocks out Soldier Boy might be the same gas that knocked out San in episode 1 when he escaped. The soldiers gassed him with something while Andre pinned him with the car. They were even using the same delivery system we saw mother's milk use on soldier boy. As for strength, it's pretty clear that Sam is about on Maeve's level. Also I think people are underestimating just how strong and durable Emma is. Even tiny she can survive fighting with ants without a scratch, she can jump off the equivalent of a 20 story building and land on her feet just fine, she can even tunnel her way through a guy's skull and that's while she's TINY. Now when she giant sized her strength and durability is probably more greatly enhanced. I think she truly held Sam down because she had similar strength, superior mass and leverage. I think she might even be as strong as homelander. We just don't know because she's been so ashamed of using her powers in a serious way and only used her giant power twice in her life. I don't think her powers are based on calorie intake and outtake though. I think that's a psychological weakness she developed because of her mom's mental abuse growing up. It would be too hard to regulate her calories to keep a specific height especially given how quickly they portrayed intake of calories effecting her. I feel like she would have accidentally ingested too many calories fairly often and enlarged. Plus her shrink and enlarge powers make her caloric absorption work in opposite ways which is impossible. We see her enlarge within seconds of eating pasta but somehow the rest of the time her body doesn't absorb calories very fast as she can purge her stomach content even hours after eating. This strongly suggests it's psychological and that in her mind she views purging as being associated with her shrinking power and binge eating/overeating being associated her growth power because that's the psychological damage her mom created in her with her body shaming her eating all her life. Hopefully she overcomes that psychological limitation because she's the most interesting character by far and I'd love to see her become a hero.
He has the potential but Soldier boy has better strength, nuke ability, experience, anti-aging and a very tactical thinking. Sam was tortured in the woods and what he only became by the ending of gen v, was just a monster. There is no way of Sam surpassing him as of current situations., given the fact that Sam has no self thinking power and does what only influences him temporarily. Besides, I think Sam will die in upcoming seasons, judging from the way his character growth is going.
It seems that Sam's fighting scenes with ordinary soldiers are a lot more brutal and impressive than Ben's when he fought in Nicaragua but maybe just because they get better martial director in gen V as well?Blue Hawk's fighting scenes at black community look ways more impressive than Soldier Boy's either
@victornieves1794 it seems that in gen v they got better martial directors and visual effects.Look at how Sam crushes normal people cracks their bones with his bare hands compared to SB fighting scenes with ordinary soldiers in Nicaragua.I mean Sam fighting scenes looks more impressive but not sure how he would deal with supes like SB Homelander or Maeve
@@congngolao843 Sam fought a bunch hired hands. SB neg deffed Kimiko, even though she had Comp V in her and is the best CQ fighter among The Boys. That's without mentioning how SB manhandled Butcher even though the latter had heat vision. Sam is incredibly strong, but SB would still destroy him.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 Buddy now we can just wait and see.I just mean that they seems to hire better martial directors for gen V and pay VFX team more in this series.It's obvious in ep 6 that they can still cut through Sam's skin to get his blood with big steel needles.While the only way to know about SB dna is to ask him to get his sperm lol.But i also remember Blynk telling that Luke can be as strong as Homelander if he continued to get that serum.Really hard to tell now just wait and see
Till we see more of Sam, soldier boy no diffs him. Soldier boy is stated lots of times to be on homelanders league of power and can possibly even kill homelander, soldier is in contention of being in the top 2 supes in the verse. Going by the fact Sam was having trouble against a bunch of college students and we actually seen a needle get used on him which shows he isn't fully invincible I don't think there is any to stop soldier from one punching him.
@@dillianwhyte443 no one is more durable then homelander as of now. He has only taken a small bruise from the combined effort of soldier boy and butcher with v both are top tier supes and then a small nose bleed and ear damage from meave who is also a top tier supe. Butcher lasered soldier boy and actually cut him while when he did it to homelander it didn't seem to damage him at all.
Sam is supposed to be the hulk him jumping is a good point on how strong he is soldier boy is capt america, and homelander is superman I think sam can grow even stronger, and homelander hasnt trained himself but soldierboy is def strong af and a perfect soldier
Soldier boy cause not only is he more in control but he has more skills and experience in combat plus he can remove the powers of others And Sam is a schizophrenic with superpowers might’ve been stronger than his brother, even though he’s one of the most powerful super I think Soulja Boy would win based on combat experience loan and better coordination. Plus he supposed to be the strongest superhero in the world back in the 80s.
It’s hard to say what Sam is truly capable of in the beginning when he fought Marie and Jordan they struggled yes but still managed to hold him back however when they went against him again when he went after cate he destroyed them like they were nothing. Not to mention it’s highly possible Sam has psychic abilities also they were using him to boost golden boys powers brink confirmed this saying he was stronger then ever. Sam’s mind has been so muddled thanks to cate that his powers which we don’t even know what they are have been hindered now he is free and probably going to get trained and help from Emma i cannot wait to see what becomes of Sam and Marie those 2 I think are the most powerful that haven’t reached their full potential or strength yet.
@@Rev..u she exploded her father in the first scene, I think she’s gonna learn to feel other peoples emotions through their blood and heart rate, almost like a 6th sense so she can sense it
soldier boy is a better fighter, has better physical stats, resistance to sam's weaknesses (electricity, gas), and a nuclear blast though in a one on one it likely won't make a difference since he doesn't get the opportunity to charge it up
@postsniper-7532 What makes you believe Sam has psychic powers? I believe that Sam is just way too powerful to be affected by Caits' powers as he seems to always be able to recall all of the times Cait mind wiped him
@@damianstewart3273 Sam was manifesting himself in Luke’s mind and he wasn’t just paying attention enough to get codes from guards his cell has no visual access he’s a telepath which is why he’s unaffected by cate
@postsniper-7532 That is a good theory. However, it could be due to the idea that Luke's mind was shattering due to how many times Caite manipulated Luke, but either way, I still find it weird that whenever Luke would "see" Sam he was a small child and not present day Sam ?? Why do you think that is?
I suspect the one thing really going in Sam's favor too is that, well, he isn't an asshole and as soon as they remember him, he will have a support team that won't betray him to get rid of him. I also think his appearance next week is a Sam hallucination. Like what happened with the puppet and then the team rallying around him cause his hallucination to age up a bit. And he seems to like Payback as a team. I am also wondering if they have been careful not to name Sam's condition because it might actually be a side effect of what is happening to him in the Woods. Especially because people would compare his puppet thing to Black Noir and that was all due to a severe head injury.
I think them making a direct comparison to Maeve is intended for us to assume he's as strong as her But his mental instability probably makes him vulnerable
The show has done a pretty good job of masking actual power levels because the supes rarely square off against each other. Homelander and Soldier Boy could both kill the original Black Noir with their bare hands, but Black Noir could literally rip most other supes apart. Sam is likely on the same level as The Deep, Queen Maeve, and the original Black Noir, which makes him stronger than most but still at least one tier below Soldier Boy. The one everyone is sleeping on is the new Black Noir. He's possibly stronger than Homelander, and that was hinted at by Homelander himself, who implied that only the strongest, most worthy supes could fly. That's why it was such a big deal for Starlight to fly, and it's why Homelander was pushing so hard for Ryan to fly.
He is gonna be weaker than SB yeah, because SB is almost an equal, if not, an equal to Homelander. If Sam could beat SB, then he could beat Homelander too.
Its odd to me that this is even a discussion. Its like comparing Black Noir to Homelander. Yeah... Noir has superhuman strength and durability, but nothing compared to Homelander. Homelander put his hand straight through his chest and pulled out Noirs heart, but didn't even bruise Soldier Boy. There's no way a bunch of guys in tack gear would be able to take down Solider Boy. Hell, a room full of supers couldn't take down soldier boy without poisoning him. Sam is contained by concrete walls. Soldier boy would tear through those walls like paper. This isn't even a discussion to be had
Exactly. Like this low-key confused me. And even Starlight is bullet proof. That doesn't mean she is anywhere near as durable as solider boy, homelander etc. These are children. The whole payback squad attacked soldier boy at once and almost got wrecked. Solider boy and supe Hugie and supe Billy attacked Homelander at once and it was a tough fight. Golden boy doesn't stand a chance. Sam doesn't stand a chance. None of these kids stand a chance. They are like the blind ninja dude homelander ear clapped. Have the potential for being flashy as they learn more, but don't stand a chance in actual battle. Like homelander literally moved so fast he save Billy butcher from a suicide bomb. Like bruh...
As of now I don't understand how we can even debate over this? It's undoubtedly Soldier boy...? We can only assume how resilient to one another they could be and Soldier boy has an actual capacity to nuclearize him
Soldier Boy can cancel powers. He's lethal to supes because even at 25% of his max he still unalives a powerless, human level supe. That hack makes him a nuke for supes.
HOLY SHI i figured out, gen v hinted it so nicely when i rewatched it marries powers are really strong and she doesnt know it yet, remeber when she completely revived that girl from the nightclub, MARIE WILL BRING BACK GOLDEN BOY FROM THE DEAD, his not dead. she can use her powers and bring back his body completely as also saw straight after Golden Boy died his room every single thing was cleaned out and collected I wonder what for Don't forget general public thought SOLDIER BOY WAS DEAD FOR SO MANY YEARS
I’d have assumed Sam was closest to Noir. Especially with the puppet motif used to communicate their broken psyches (something that leads me to believe he’ll become Noir’s successor in TB s4)
I think the longer Sam is away from the woods the stronger Sam will become. The last episode showed them using Sam to boost golden boy and the puppet visions , though hilarious I think it's a side effect of the meds/captivity, Cate brain washing and so on. The longer Sam is not being treated and drugged the stronger he'll get.
I’m going to go with Sam , he already matches up well and I think there’s a few more “Unique” powers he’s got Hopefully we’ll see these by the end of S1
We got a good example of how powerful Sam is when Kamiko punched him with all her strength. It didn't phase Sam at all. Go back to season 2 where Kamiko f**ked Stormfront up for a little bit.
Okay, this isn't a question. Soldier Boy is on par with Homelander and Sam is weaker than Maeve. Sam is also supposed to have peaked or near enough to it that God-U was able to easily able to measure his full power and keep in contained without issue. Soldier Boy on the other hand has to be kept comatose with a constant dose of the most lethal nerve gas around because if he wakes up they don't have a cell on earth that can hold him. So, no Sam isn't going to grow to SB level without MAJOR plot shenanigans and a handful of Mcguffins because that would also make him the next Homelander.
My supe knowledge is kind of lacking but if I made a list of the strongest supes (mix of strength and fighting ability) I'd probably make it (not including Butcher since we haven't seen a lot from the new power) 1. Homelander 2. Soldier Boy 3. Queen Maeve 4. Black Noir 5. Sam I think Sam is stronger than Noir physically by a lot and stronger than Maeve by a little but Noir and Maeve beats him easily in combat skill
I think Sam is roughly equal to Noir, but if we want to be generous, close to maeve. But Soldier boy is proven to be stronger than Noir by quite a bit, and at least slightly above maeve.
Well Soldier boy would win because he have more battle experience but if Sam gets battle experience he could be a real menace and second we still don't know if his strength is his only power but the mental illness makes it hard for him to use
I just have to stand by the fact that Soldier Boy is the strongest supe. He is durable enough to take a beating from any other supe, and he can charge his nuke in like 10-15 seconds tops, which will just take their powers away or fry them to a crisp.
I'm going to have to see more from Sam before I could compare him to the likes of Homelander and Solder Boy. Right now he just seems similar to Kimiko or maybe Queen Mave without the training. Seems every super has some level of super strength and durability in The Boys universe. It shouldn't be this way because it makes everyone with only these powers seem underwhelming.
To meEven Kimiko should have win vs Sam Why? She should have been an expert in combat Sam is powerfull but have zero training Not to mention Kimiko should also be faster than him But whatever i get, for plot
He went straight through everyone of them to get to Kate. Even when Marie hit him with the blood rope he was smart enough to defend by just twisting back the other way to completely counter it. I’m starting to really believe he isn’t crazy and what ever they have been doing to him has his mind fractured. I’m hoping we get a same badass Sam. He is definitely the funniest character on the show with some of the shit that comes out of his mouth.
Soldier Boy is a supe with military background, combat training and experience fighting other supes, Sam is strong sure but unstable, if that strength were to be channeled and focused, then he'd been in the mix with the big dogs.
If the super strength works as an “increased muscles density-capability” then Sam could be way stronger than he is after being kept frail and skinny in the Woods. He could get to lifting boulders and cars and get more meat on his bones he could definitely compete with the top dogs.
Unless he's invulnerable, SB would win, easily. Thing is, SB isn't just strong he's also invulnerable. Sam's blows would do nothing whereas SB's punches would be causing actual damage.
@@jerrynassi6017 Starlight is bullet proof also. Starlight isn't invulnerable, though. Just cause Sam can take bullets doesn't mean he's invulnerable. Not to mention it took the world's strongest neurotoxin to even knock SB out... Sam gets knocked unconscious by a basic stun baton. SB would destroy him. When it comes to the supes it's pretty clear Homelander and Soldier Boy are a well defined step above everyone else. People are really hyping up Sam just because he has super strength, he's not on the level of the 2nd strongest Supe alive who was already known to be far above everyone else when he was number 1.
Homelander is the epitome of power within the series, still by far the strongest. Soldier Boy could easily come up second since he was able to go toe-to-toe with him and did it even better than Queen Maeve who was seen as the next strongest before him. Sam is incredibly powerful, but I don't see him surpassing those top 3.
Tactics would get sam in this 1, not raw power. Like, if they literally went blow for blow till 1 couldn't continue, sam may very well be stronger. Soldier boy has combat toughness but Sam's been legit tortured for years; no chance he'd not relatively match that toughness.
Soldier Boy would probably solo the whole of GenV , he was soloing Butcher (can hang with Homelander) , Starlight and Kimiko, i don't see why he could not solo GenV , Andre was especially arrogant to think he can shit talk SB lol , with his durability i think 1 hit from SB would finish him off
This is the basis for the boys…the idea that the supes are so strong and famous….yet sooooo fucked up in the head. And the contrast between homelander and butcher, actual proving them more and more alike is what drives the story.
Sam is strong for sure, but that’s it. he doesn’t have the training or experience that Soldier Boy does. his super strength and durability also seem to be the full extent of his abilities. he doesn’t have any additional things like lasers or flight. then again, he’s young and has been in captivity for a long time, so there’s possibly some untapped powers yet to be revealed.
? SB grabbed Kimiko by her neck and threw her across the room basically. She's never even directly fought SB besides that one moment and in that one moment he just tossed her across the room like garbage.
I think Sam is going to be new Black Noir in new season. I am not sure Black Noir is dead but Homelander doesnt let join him to Seven again. Also in the comics black noir is a clone of homelander and Sam has got powers in a lab like Homelander.
@@BrianLe-yf6fe I just wish Sam’s powered weren’t just standard super strength and resistance when his brother could light on fire on top of his strength.
@@BrianLe-yf6fe There still a chance that marie's sister can get the same powers if they cant get marie they just might go after her sister and use compound v on her to get the powers
Homelander Kessler butcher Soldier boy Temp V butcher Sam (now) But, I think with experience Sam could potentially beat SB. I also think that lack of experience makes him an easy target for some of the weaker supes with nasty stacks of powers that know how to win. Ie: strength, psychosis & and super jump might not be enough for neuman, starlight or noir. (Edit: on second thought, I’m not sure where kessler butcher fits as it’s just been instant annihilation against the 2 less durable supes he’s killed).
One is a kid, and the other is a soldier who been in the game 100 years without aging. Hmmmmm....soldier boy of course! One blast from his chest and Sam loses his powers
I remember them stating that Golden Boy could've been as strong as homelander, and that sam was stronger than him, so either this is them just saying random shit, or sam has that much potential
What's hilarious is how you all are trying to compare a super with super human strength who's only demolished regular people (hes never ripped other supers apart), versus a super (Soldier Boy) who's went toe to toe against Homelander. It's quite absurd. Now Sam vs Queen Mave or Sam vs Jordan would make more sense. He's probably beating Jordan outright. And He'd either lose or tie with QM. But to put him in the claas Soldier Boy?? Get real!
Do you see Sam getting stronger than Soldier Boy? The similarities are definitely there! Comment your thoughts below!
Yes. I'd love to see Sam in The Boys somehow.
No, that wouldnt make sense to the plot
agreed I see people saying that sam compares to homelander and soldiers boys strength it makes no sense he'd get folded by both no-low diff@@filoz2005
If Sam does end up stronger than SB then he would comparable to Homelander too which would be too much for the plot.
he is not if that were true regardless of his mental health they would have picked him instead of golden boy
Sam is also weak against electricity and gas. Soldier Boy seemed immune to almost all gasses, with only a vapor nerve gas harming him. Soldier Boy wins.
Novichok (whatever it is called) didn't harm him, it only put him to temporary sleep.
@@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 You are correct, it didn't technically harm him, but it did incapacitate him, allowing him to be captured, experimented on and kept in cold storage. So, that's what I meant by harm.
Also to note, he became more tolerable to the gas the Russians used, so his body is constantly building resistance to these vapors.
@@starbrand3726 The gas alone didn't do shit to him. He was getting constantly being given even a dose that could flatline any other supe and all it did to him was give him a nap.
@@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 And putting him to sleep places him in a vulnerable position, therefore ANYTHING that does that to a super being is technically a weakness even if it is only a nap.
“Buddy, you think you look tough, you have a bowl cut.”
“Oh no, no, no… I’m the edgar…”
Lmaooo
Soldier Boy is near Homelander level, Sam is near Queen Maeve level. Anything Sam does, Soldier boy does better. Soldier boy is more Durable, Strong, Jump power, Reaction time, Fast, and has more destructive capabilities. Soldier Boy wipes the floor with Sam.
Soldier Boy is above Homelander in terms of power level since Soldier Boy can always disable other supes powers. Sam would not win. Soldier boy would simply disble his powers then kill Sam.
@@zcnaipowered7407 and few "weak" teenage supes could hold sam for some time where to hold soldier boy they would neet few butchers and probably soldier boy would still free himself
clearly, there is no question about that...not mentioning Soldier boy's experience regarding combat and his ability to cancel the power of another sup'...so Sam is done the moment Soldier boy wakes up.
@@zcnaipowered7407 Remember that he got his radioactive powers after decades of nuclear testing on him, which seems to have mutated him. Before that, him, Maeve and Sam all had more or less the same powers, although it is assumed Soldier Boy was the strongest of his kind (essentially all standard super soldiers with all athletic capabilities at superhuman levels.)
@@zcnaipowered7407 No he got beat pretty quickly by homelander, the blast is ineffective on homelander as it take too long to charge and homelander is super fast and can fly. The only way he can beat homelander is if he has a team to restrain homelander so he can blast him. In terms of strength and durability homelander is almost twice as strong seeing as how he beat soldier boy pretty easily when they went 1v1. We are told the Luke would have been "homelander strong" and Sam is even stronger then Luke that means older Sam would likely be above Soldier Boy in terms of raw strength so soldier boy would have to rely on the radiation blast to win.
You can tell Sam lacks any type of training and only goes off his emotion. If he ever did receive any type of fighting or skills training, i think Sam could be dangerous
Definitely could be!
He’s basically noir without the training
@@nobodyviews idk I feel like he’s a lot stronger
@@nobodyviews hes basically queen maeve without the training*
@@shoppincartiesqueen Maeve stopped a speeding train 💀
Sam got incapacitated by a tazor.
Soldier Boy smoked halothane straight from the grenade.
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*End conversation...*
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Solider boy would destroy Sam , soldier boy is a pretty skilled fighter and Sam kinda fights recklessly
so does soldier boy
@@timothyscott1951 When has Soldier Boy ever fought recklessly like Sam had against Marie, Jordan, and the others.
Man was the first guy to give Homelander a bruise and was peacing him In a 1v1 until they temparily stalemated when John cought his fist.
@@darkclaw1462All I saw was straight combat from soldierboy in the fight with homelander, even though he was weakened.
@@timothyscott1951 Soldier boy do not fight in a reckless manner(Except when using his "nuclear blast". He seems to be more skillfull than Homelander if you ask me tho Homelander is slightly stronger and slightly faster.
I think everyone is overlooking Sam’s jumping it not a ability it’s how strong he is and being held by Emma and the dumpster and refrigerator is because he is a kid that had been locked up. I think Sam doesn’t know how strong he is I don’t necessarily think Sam could defeat starlight with no training but strength wise he is top 3 in either shoe just my opinion
He seems to have the same strength and powers as queen mauve. He has the same strength and durability and can also jump the same way she does
@@starbirds2464no thats a head canon
@@tajaemartin2251 not really his feats are about the same
@@starbirds2464they even mention he left massive holes in the ground like Maeve
Literally! People always treat super mobility as a secondary ability when it is a literal result of super strength
Solider boy = More durable than Homelander
Homelander = Slightly stronger than Soldier Boy
And can fly around and shoot him with lasers
A shot to the eyes should be a win.
@@chrismeandyou that wouldn't be a win/instant kill but it would hurt/blind soldier boy enough to give homelander an edge.
Flying wouldn't be as much of an advantage as you may think.
@@chrismeandyou Butchers laser is the same strength as homelanders and sb tanked it straight to the face from point blank rang, only resulting in a small scratch.
Yes, but eyes are not made of skin. The video said the skin was tough. Isn't the eyes the weakest part of our bodies?
@@solaire07 flying speed is actually a really good advantage. Homelander didn’t capitalize on it as much as he should’ve. I’m assuming due to the budget of the show they couldn’t but flying speed is def a strong feat.
I think Sam’s powers are very all over the place because of his schizophrenia, and if he could learn to control himself and get his mental state under control he’d be able to do WAY more damage. All that, AND he’s still only a kid. It probably makes sense that Supe’s powers get stronger with age sort of like puberty, so tbh I could definitely see Sam putting up at least somewhat of a fight against someone like Soldier Boy ( maybe not Homelander yet) in the future. Every scene of his strength has shown that he rips through people like pieces of paper, VERY similar to Homelander and Soldier Boy. It would be so dope to get a third individual who’s considered overwhelmingly dangerous to the public because of how powerful they are, and maybe even someone who isn’t a sociopath or narcissist like we’ve seen twice now.
I disagree
Soldier boy is almost as strong as Homelander if not stronger
The reason why soldier boy is way strong and could stand up to three sups, including Butcher (Homelander power), is because of his experience and combat training.
Don't forget his deception and how he tracked his former team.
I believe Sam can be as strong as Maive.
An interesting note about soldier boy is i think he's stronger than we realize. When utilizing his blast it seems to weaken him for a little while. He's always limping and staggering after. When he went up against homelander it was right after using it so he seemed already exhausted but still strong enough to throw homelander around and even stalemate at certain moments. When he was at full strength he was rag dolling every single supe who came at him. An interesting note about Sam is i don't think he's grown into his powers yet. He's 18 or 19 and constantly plagued by schizophrenia. I wonder what he'd be like in his physical prime at 21 and absolutely pushing his limits. Not far behind queen Maeve i reckon if not already on par.
Soldier-Boy wasn't throwing Homelander around like that. Homelander made him and Butcher his bitch.
Yeah he seems weakened after a huge blast he released that destroyed a building
And then homelander pop up and he only fought him when he is at 50%
@@dranixrush3306soldier boy literally grabbed homelander by the face and was about to vaporize him until Ryan lasered him from the side and saved homelander 😂
@@princebealalthe3rd732 The neck, first of all. Secondly, there were two other people holding him down along with Soldier-Boy. Revisionist.
@@dranixrush3306 the face first of all.and no there was not anyone else helping him.he was gripping homelander by the face and charging up his radiation until Ryan lasered him and saved homelander a life.go watch the show again
Sam does well against regular joes. But Polarity and other sups seem to subdue him pretty quick...I don't think that would be the case with soldier boy.
Apparently he's almost if not as strong as Maeve, that's definitely putting him around the top 5
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08he’s as strong but I think because he’s been locked up for so long and he doesn’t really get too train properly so he can’t really use his strength as effectively as Maeve and other supes
@@orkwarboxthe1rst208 Even then, he'd probably still beat trained supes like starlight and possibly atrain. He's as of now, probably around black noir level, and black noir is top 3 in the 7
@@orkwarboxthe1rst208 Also, I'd like to know who you think would win, black noir or storm front in the show? I'd say black noir purely because he destroyed starlight way easier than storefront did. He also showed us he can hold his own against a fully bloodlusted homelander in a fight in the boys: diabolical season 1 episode 8.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 in my opinion if stormfront just stays in the air and spams lighting she would win eventually just because his throwing knives would do little damage unless he gets some lucky eye shots but if storm front gets cocky which she does alot she’s gonna go in for a fist fight especially because noir is black and she’s racist so she’s not gonna fight correctly she’s gonna try too make it personal
Sam is more similar to Maeve than Solider Boy honestly, at least as far as powers go.
Golden Boy is a Better Match
@@therealmr.incredible3179They don't have similar powers
@@jesusramirezromo2037 ok
Yeah I think his powers are more similar to black noir/mauvr
I honestly think she kills him with like two punches, given her fight with Homelander
I have a theory that Sam will become Black Noir. It would fit perfectly if Sam goes missing at the end of the season. Then we could see the new Seven introduced, and Homelander would be shocked to see that Black Noir is back. Homelander might try to roughen up Noir, but he wouldn't get far. Noir’s mask would have a layer of Zinc that prevents anyone from seeing his face. Homelander would see that Noir also seems to be even stronger than before, so It could be an almost equal match for him.
That would definitely be an interesting twist!
I honestly like that idea cause I don’t really want a homelander clone like in the comics seemed pretty lazy tbh but yea like the idea hope they use some parts of it
Idk man.. He would be a very small looking Noir
@@HaleyH3mp just put some muscle in the suit (if you get the joke)
homelander would destroy sam
Solider boy is a walking bomb that nullifies supe powers I’m a huge fan of Sam and he has the potential to beat a lot of characters in the boys but right now without further experimentation or training I don’t think he’s beating Solider Boy
Unless he gets training then it’s a new game unless he gets a lucky chance to get hit by the light thing.
@@grathic99grathic60no...Sam has no chance against soldier boy...if you remember his skin was able to be pierced by that needle whereas almost nothing has been able to pierce soldier boys' skin...I dont think sam could even one punch soldier boy not even close
Sam has psychic powers it’s been shown on at least 3 occasions pulling the codes for guards manifesting himself in Luke’s mind and resistance to Kate’s powers
Exactly, he is immune to Cate's "forget" power.
I don’t think he’s immune to it. I think he just knew better and would never ever let her near him.
Cate has been shown putting him to sleep with her ability.
@@Zerbzie yes I’m not talking about cates push powers that is universal every human has a will and she can manipulate that her actual mind altering forget this even powers don’t affect sam
@@postsniper-7532 I don’t think she can push him to do much more than sleep, I agree he is resistance. But not immune
His mind is broken but his memory is perfect.
@@postsniper-7532 he also didn’t pull the codes, he just has a really good memory and is really smart.
The guards thought he was just a zombie from all the meds and experiments and would enter the door codes with him looking right at them. And then memorized them all
I think all of them are much stronger than they know.. Like a clear example is Andre, he's clearly a Magneto styled hero yet we've only seen him do really simple shit.. I think we'll see him do far greater things in season 2.. But its the same with the other heroes.. Cate takes those pills/sams always on meds/Marie is only now understanding that she can blood bend.. And Emma getting big, she could eat a fuck ton and crush anyone.
Fr imagine Emma after a Thanksgiving feast 😂
@@h3llboyyy407it makes me wonder can she just get big without it being intentional, like if shes just hungry and eating alot would she still get big 😂
Emma isn't that powerful and more than likely has a disadvantageous power, if she wanted to get bigger than she did in episode 4 and 5, she'd have to eat a LOT like you said, that might kill her, she might have a heart attack or something. Eating as much as Emma needs to get bigger than she previously was would kill a human
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 sure but she's a supe. We saw her in Episode 5 get even bigger, and she clearly gains a ton of strength in that form. I'd put money on them saving her getting ultra big for season 2.
If it was going to kill her, I think we'd just see her belly expand, that would be the warning.
@@traviscue2099 If she truly could just grow as big as she wanted, it would be an outlier, she'd eventually get so big she'd be stronger than homelander, if they make literally every supe close to homelander on the power scale it's going to be annoying and boring.
Sam is a Soldier Boy/Black Noir type character. All of his powers come from physical capabilities, or at least those we've seen so far. Whether he would defeat Soldier Boy or not would depend on the state in which Soldier Boy would be found, because on the contrary he is a much better fighter than Sam. Still, Sam is just as brutal as Homelander and so I don't doubt he would put up a good fight.
Yeah but as of now Soldier boy is far more durable and far stronger. They were able to keep Sam strapped down to a table and pierce his back with a needle. They also were able to contain him in a metal room and keep him there against his will. He got out when Emma killed the guard Greg. They also tased him into submission.
The Russians had to keep soldier boy heavily sedated, locked down with steel clamps and shackles.
@@Bitchslapper316 For now but they said Luke could grow to be nearly as strong as homelander and they also said Sam was even stronger then Luke. Homelander was noticibly significantly stronger then Soldier Boy. So I would guess that an older sam would be between Soldier Boy and Homelander in terms of raw power.
@@moe5020 They never said he can grow as strong as Homelander. They said he was much stronger than Luke and Luke doesn't have any impressive strength feats. From what we seen from Luke he wasn't any stronger then Starlight.
Homelander also wasn't noticeably stronger than soldier boy. He got the upper hand on him in thier first fight but that was right after SB depleted all his energy blowing up herogasm. SB was still confident enough he could take Homelander to go and try and kill him. Homelander is probably stronger but it's not by large amount. Both would bury Sam.
Sam at his peak is probably Maeve/stormfront in strength but Homelander and SB are on another level. Sam probably gets killed by Marie in the finale.
@@Bitchslapper316 sam probably isn’t even up to Maeve and Stormfront. Meager electricity knocked him out and a needle pierced his body. He’s probably black noir level strength wise
@@nelsonogbuigwe7500 Yeah I am guessing that is about how strong he is as well. Based on feats Luke and Jordan are not any stronger then Starlight, they may not even be as strong. The doctor said Sam was stronger then Luke so I imagine that is about Black Noir strength. Noir has ripped humans apart with his bare hand like Sam.
I also don't think Stormfront was as strong as Maeve. Kamiko and Starlight were able to stager her with punches and kicks. Kamiko almost broke her neck until she was shocked. She seemed about Black Noir in strength as well but has that powerful electricity.
i think it is very soon to compare sam to other supes because we still don't know how powerful sam really is or how powerful marie really is after we watch end of the series then we can talk about (who would win) because for now we only know sam has superhuman strength +durability
That’s fair! I feel there’s probably more to Sams arsenal!
as much as i love sam, i really dont think he's that much of a powerhouse, and i think the only reason why its been so hard for the group to subdue him is because their lack of experience/weaker skill set, and because of how unpredictable sam can be. But if sam were to go up against practically any supe from The Boys, i feel like they could subdue/incapacitate him pretty easily. So, its not really a question of how strong he is, but really how much weaker/inexperienced his opponents are in comparison.
That's fair! Maybe his lack of experience would actually go against him!
@@BrainPilot
Dude. I don't think Sam can beat Maive. So how can he beat soldier boy who's almost as strong as Homelander.
Also apart from his experience and combat skill, you forger to mention his deception and good at tracking and studying his opponents. That's why Soldier boy is way stronger than Sam.
Anyhow, I appreciate your video
I think sam could reck maeve
@@jaotrx7163maev would destroy him
The gas that knocks out Soldier Boy might be the same gas that knocked out San in episode 1 when he escaped. The soldiers gassed him with something while Andre pinned him with the car. They were even using the same delivery system we saw mother's milk use on soldier boy.
As for strength, it's pretty clear that Sam is about on Maeve's level.
Also I think people are underestimating just how strong and durable Emma is. Even tiny she can survive fighting with ants without a scratch, she can jump off the equivalent of a 20 story building and land on her feet just fine, she can even tunnel her way through a guy's skull and that's while she's TINY. Now when she giant sized her strength and durability is probably more greatly enhanced. I think she truly held Sam down because she had similar strength, superior mass and leverage. I think she might even be as strong as homelander. We just don't know because she's been so ashamed of using her powers in a serious way and only used her giant power twice in her life. I don't think her powers are based on calorie intake and outtake though. I think that's a psychological weakness she developed because of her mom's mental abuse growing up. It would be too hard to regulate her calories to keep a specific height especially given how quickly they portrayed intake of calories effecting her. I feel like she would have accidentally ingested too many calories fairly often and enlarged. Plus her shrink and enlarge powers make her caloric absorption work in opposite ways which is impossible. We see her enlarge within seconds of eating pasta but somehow the rest of the time her body doesn't absorb calories very fast as she can purge her stomach content even hours after eating. This strongly suggests it's psychological and that in her mind she views purging as being associated with her shrinking power and binge eating/overeating being associated her growth power because that's the psychological damage her mom created in her with her body shaming her eating all her life. Hopefully she overcomes that psychological limitation because she's the most interesting character by far and I'd love to see her become a hero.
Wait that makes sense.
This makes a lot of sense except for the homelander comparison
Turns out you were right.
Home boi just Laser beam her
He has the potential but Soldier boy has better strength, nuke ability, experience, anti-aging and a very tactical thinking. Sam was tortured in the woods and what he only became by the ending of gen v, was just a monster. There is no way of Sam surpassing him as of current situations., given the fact that Sam has no self thinking power and does what only influences him temporarily. Besides, I think Sam will die in upcoming seasons, judging from the way his character growth is going.
Finally someone who realizes most main characters won’t stay main characters and might be pouring a little too much dip on their chip😂😂
It seems that Sam's fighting scenes with ordinary soldiers are a lot more brutal and impressive than Ben's when he fought in Nicaragua but maybe just because they get better martial director in gen V as well?Blue Hawk's fighting scenes at black community look ways more impressive than Soldier Boy's either
@victornieves1794 it seems that in gen v they got better martial directors and visual effects.Look at how Sam crushes normal people cracks their bones with his bare hands compared to SB fighting scenes with ordinary soldiers in Nicaragua.I mean Sam fighting scenes looks more impressive but not sure how he would deal with supes like SB Homelander or Maeve
@@congngolao843 Sam fought a bunch hired hands. SB neg deffed Kimiko, even though she had Comp V in her and is the best CQ fighter among The Boys. That's without mentioning how SB manhandled Butcher even though the latter had heat vision. Sam is incredibly strong, but SB would still destroy him.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 Buddy now we can just wait and see.I just mean that they seems to hire better martial directors for gen V and pay VFX team more in this series.It's obvious in ep 6 that they can still cut through Sam's skin to get his blood with big steel needles.While the only way to know about SB dna is to ask him to get his sperm lol.But i also remember Blynk telling that Luke can be as strong as Homelander if he continued to get that serum.Really hard to tell now just wait and see
Till we see more of Sam, soldier boy no diffs him. Soldier boy is stated lots of times to be on homelanders league of power and can possibly even kill homelander, soldier is in contention of being in the top 2 supes in the verse. Going by the fact Sam was having trouble against a bunch of college students and we actually seen a needle get used on him which shows he isn't fully invincible I don't think there is any to stop soldier from one punching him.
He seems to be more durable than Homelander.
@@dillianwhyte443 no one is more durable then homelander as of now. He has only taken a small bruise from the combined effort of soldier boy and butcher with v both are top tier supes and then a small nose bleed and ear damage from meave who is also a top tier supe. Butcher lasered soldier boy and actually cut him while when he did it to homelander it didn't seem to damage him at all.
@metascrub285 What are you talking about. He went flying. Also they was only for a short period. He layered SB face for a good 3 or 4 seconds.
@@dillianwhyte443 yes flying but no wounds as all.
@metascrub285 We don't know for certain. We know if went through his suit.
Sam is supposed to be the hulk him jumping is a good point on how strong he is soldier boy is capt america, and homelander is superman I think sam can grow even stronger, and homelander hasnt trained himself but soldierboy is def strong af and a perfect soldier
Soldier boy cause not only is he more in control but he has more skills and experience in combat plus he can remove the powers of others
And Sam is a schizophrenic with superpowers might’ve been stronger than his brother, even though he’s one of the most powerful super I think Soulja Boy would win based on combat experience loan and better coordination. Plus he supposed to be the strongest superhero in the world back in the 80s.
They did an amazing job with gen V.
Definitely!
It’s hard to say what Sam is truly capable of in the beginning when he fought Marie and Jordan they struggled yes but still managed to hold him back however when they went against him again when he went after cate he destroyed them like they were nothing. Not to mention it’s highly possible Sam has psychic abilities also they were using him to boost golden boys powers brink confirmed this saying he was stronger then ever. Sam’s mind has been so muddled thanks to cate that his powers which we don’t even know what they are have been hindered now he is free and probably going to get trained and help from Emma i cannot wait to see what becomes of Sam and Marie those 2 I think are the most powerful that haven’t reached their full potential or strength yet.
Marie has the opportunity to develop into a blood witch being able to silently control anyone at her will so this could be the best power of them all
Pretty sure she can straight up explode some1
@@Rev..uyeah just like Victoria Newman or she could literally just stop the blood flow to anyone’s heart
@@Rev..u she exploded her father in the first scene, I think she’s gonna learn to feel other peoples emotions through their blood and heart rate, almost like a 6th sense so she can sense it
More like sense what their feeling not feel their emotions
And no Marie is never learning to control people. This is the boys universe not some fairy tail
soldier boy is a better fighter, has better physical stats, resistance to sam's weaknesses (electricity, gas), and a nuclear blast though in a one on one it likely won't make a difference since he doesn't get the opportunity to charge it up
I personally think Caites abilities are temporary on Sam due to how powerful he is
They don’t work at all on sam he’s a psychic
@postsniper-7532 What makes you believe Sam has psychic powers? I believe that Sam is just way too powerful to be affected by Caits' powers as he seems to always be able to recall all of the times Cait mind wiped him
@@damianstewart3273 Sam was manifesting himself in Luke’s mind and he wasn’t just paying attention enough to get codes from guards his cell has no visual access he’s a telepath which is why he’s unaffected by cate
@postsniper-7532 That is a good theory. However, it could be due to the idea that Luke's mind was shattering due to how many times Caite manipulated Luke, but either way, I still find it weird that whenever Luke would "see" Sam he was a small child and not present day Sam ?? Why do you think that is?
Luke lost sam when sam was a kid. That’s the last time he remembers he knew him. Every other time they met cate would wipe him after
I suspect the one thing really going in Sam's favor too is that, well, he isn't an asshole and as soon as they remember him, he will have a support team that won't betray him to get rid of him.
I also think his appearance next week is a Sam hallucination. Like what happened with the puppet and then the team rallying around him cause his hallucination to age up a bit. And he seems to like Payback as a team.
I am also wondering if they have been careful not to name Sam's condition because it might actually be a side effect of what is happening to him in the Woods. Especially because people would compare his puppet thing to Black Noir and that was all due to a severe head injury.
Yeahhhhh
I think them making a direct comparison to Maeve is intended for us to assume he's as strong as her
But his mental instability probably makes him vulnerable
That's fair! So he's strong enough to be in The Seven!
@@BrainPilotdefinitely if he’s stronger than golden boy; a prospect for the seven
Not even close, Sam is comparable to child homelander who is above someone like Blue Hawk. He is near black noir in power
The show has done a pretty good job of masking actual power levels because the supes rarely square off against each other. Homelander and Soldier Boy could both kill the original Black Noir with their bare hands, but Black Noir could literally rip most other supes apart. Sam is likely on the same level as The Deep, Queen Maeve, and the original Black Noir, which makes him stronger than most but still at least one tier below Soldier Boy.
The one everyone is sleeping on is the new Black Noir. He's possibly stronger than Homelander, and that was hinted at by Homelander himself, who implied that only the strongest, most worthy supes could fly. That's why it was such a big deal for Starlight to fly, and it's why Homelander was pushing so hard for Ryan to fly.
If I had to guess Sam is more around Queen Maves level of strength than Soldier Boys
That seems like a fair guess!
So does that mean , Sam is weaker than soldier boy
@@millioneyegaming237 I would say in terms of raw power yes
He is gonna be weaker than SB yeah, because SB is almost an equal, if not, an equal to Homelander.
If Sam could beat SB, then he could beat Homelander too.
Its odd to me that this is even a discussion. Its like comparing Black Noir to Homelander. Yeah... Noir has superhuman strength and durability, but nothing compared to Homelander. Homelander put his hand straight through his chest and pulled out Noirs heart, but didn't even bruise Soldier Boy. There's no way a bunch of guys in tack gear would be able to take down Solider Boy. Hell, a room full of supers couldn't take down soldier boy without poisoning him. Sam is contained by concrete walls. Soldier boy would tear through those walls like paper. This isn't even a discussion to be had
Exactly. Like this low-key confused me. And even Starlight is bullet proof. That doesn't mean she is anywhere near as durable as solider boy, homelander etc. These are children. The whole payback squad attacked soldier boy at once and almost got wrecked. Solider boy and supe Hugie and supe Billy attacked Homelander at once and it was a tough fight. Golden boy doesn't stand a chance. Sam doesn't stand a chance. None of these kids stand a chance. They are like the blind ninja dude homelander ear clapped. Have the potential for being flashy as they learn more, but don't stand a chance in actual battle. Like homelander literally moved so fast he save Billy butcher from a suicide bomb. Like bruh...
@@atlasfishmo agreed
As of now I don't understand how we can even debate over this? It's undoubtedly Soldier boy...? We can only assume how resilient to one another they could be and Soldier boy has an actual capacity to nuclearize him
Soldier Boy can cancel powers. He's lethal to supes because even at 25% of his max he still unalives a powerless, human level supe. That hack makes him a nuke for supes.
Soldier Boy needs a hefty dose of that novachuck gas before he falls, so he has some resistance to it.
It seems most sups get some level of super STR so i guess thats like a default feature their organism gets when combined with V
HOLY SHI i figured out, gen v hinted it so nicely when i rewatched it marries powers are really strong and she doesnt know it yet, remeber when she completely revived that girl from the nightclub, MARIE WILL BRING BACK GOLDEN BOY FROM THE DEAD, his not dead. she can use her powers and bring back his body completely as also saw straight after Golden Boy died his room every single thing was cleaned out and collected I wonder what for
Don't forget general public thought SOLDIER BOY WAS DEAD FOR SO MANY YEARS
I'm also hopeful he comes back
@@ggr68 no way theyd killed him first episode for nothin
Yea no
@@user-wd8om1bs3t u know it
Soldier Boy stomps this crazy wimp
I have never seen a clearer example of “I need to hit 10 minutes in this video” than this.
I want to see Soldier Boy vs Dean Winchester.
I’d have assumed Sam was closest to Noir. Especially with the puppet motif used to communicate their broken psyches (something that leads me to believe he’ll become Noir’s successor in TB s4)
Yeah definitely feels like he could be!
Bro the deep is in the seven sams brother being a candidate is not thst big of a deal at all.
I think the longer Sam is away from the woods the stronger Sam will become. The last episode showed them using Sam to boost golden boy and the puppet visions , though hilarious I think it's a side effect of the meds/captivity, Cate brain washing and so on. The longer Sam is not being treated and drugged the stronger he'll get.
Cate's "forget" powers don't work on Sam.
I’m going to go with Sam , he already matches up well and I think there’s a few more “Unique” powers he’s got
Hopefully we’ll see these by the end of S1
Interesting choice! Yeah I definitely feel like there's more to him! Likewise with Marie!
@@BrainPilot 👍🏿
She could be stronger than both
Is there going to be a season 2 to gen v or is it just to help transition the boys from season 3 to season 4.
We got a good example of how powerful Sam is when Kamiko punched him with all her strength. It didn't phase Sam at all.
Go back to season 2 where Kamiko f**ked Stormfront up for a little bit.
Sam and Golden boy looks like SoldieBoys kids... They have Soldier Boys abilities
Golden Boy looks like the dude who plays Flash from the Netflix series while Sam legit looks like his Sesame Street counterpart💀
They're in the wooooooods
soldier boy probably alread kills sam before he even uses his nuclear powers and once he uses those its over neg diff anyways
Okay, this isn't a question. Soldier Boy is on par with Homelander and Sam is weaker than Maeve. Sam is also supposed to have peaked or near enough to it that God-U was able to easily able to measure his full power and keep in contained without issue. Soldier Boy on the other hand has to be kept comatose with a constant dose of the most lethal nerve gas around because if he wakes up they don't have a cell on earth that can hold him. So, no Sam isn't going to grow to SB level without MAJOR plot shenanigans and a handful of Mcguffins because that would also make him the next Homelander.
Soldier Boy and Sam spin off series folks. Would be great. Two guys adapting to the new world they’ve missed.
My supe knowledge is kind of lacking but if I made a list of the strongest supes (mix of strength and fighting ability) I'd probably make it (not including Butcher since we haven't seen a lot from the new power)
1. Homelander
2. Soldier Boy
3. Queen Maeve
4. Black Noir
5. Sam
I think Sam is stronger than Noir physically by a lot and stronger than Maeve by a little but Noir and Maeve beats him easily in combat skill
I think Sam is roughly equal to Noir, but if we want to be generous, close to maeve. But Soldier boy is proven to be stronger than Noir by quite a bit, and at least slightly above maeve.
Well Soldier boy would win because he have more battle experience but if Sam gets battle experience he could be a real menace and second we still don't know if his strength is his only power but the mental illness makes it hard for him to use
That's literaly "nuclear bomb VS coughibg baby"
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I just have to stand by the fact that Soldier Boy is the strongest supe. He is durable enough to take a beating from any other supe, and he can charge his nuke in like 10-15 seconds tops, which will just take their powers away or fry them to a crisp.
I'm going to have to see more from Sam before I could compare him to the likes of Homelander and Solder Boy. Right now he just seems similar to Kimiko or maybe Queen Mave without the training. Seems every super has some level of super strength and durability in The Boys universe. It shouldn't be this way because it makes everyone with only these powers seem underwhelming.
Soldier Boy will remember he had brother named Sam in an alternate universe🤭
Coughing Baby vs hydrogen bomb
To meEven Kimiko should have win vs Sam
Why?
She should have been an expert in combat
Sam is powerfull but have zero training
Not to mention Kimiko should also be faster than him
But whatever i get, for plot
We are thinking as an individual we should be thinking as a team. It will take more than one to smoke homie.
He went straight through everyone of them to get to Kate. Even when Marie hit him with the blood rope he was smart enough to defend by just twisting back the other way to completely counter it. I’m starting to really believe he isn’t crazy and what ever they have been doing to him has his mind fractured. I’m hoping we get a same badass Sam. He is definitely the funniest character on the show with some of the shit that comes out of his mouth.
Soldier Boy is a supe with military background, combat training and experience fighting other supes, Sam is strong sure but unstable, if that strength were to be channeled and focused, then he'd been in the mix with the big dogs.
If the super strength works as an “increased muscles density-capability” then Sam could be way stronger than he is after being kept frail and skinny in the Woods. He could get to lifting boulders and cars and get more meat on his bones he could definitely compete with the top dogs.
Soldier boy's dialogue is enough to kill Sam.
Unless he's invulnerable, SB would win, easily.
Thing is, SB isn't just strong he's also invulnerable. Sam's blows would do nothing whereas SB's punches would be causing actual damage.
he is, remember the puppets shooting him did nothing just like sb
His skin was pierced by a needle, however.@@jerrynassi6017
@@jerrynassi6017 Starlight is bullet proof also. Starlight isn't invulnerable, though. Just cause Sam can take bullets doesn't mean he's invulnerable.
Not to mention it took the world's strongest neurotoxin to even knock SB out... Sam gets knocked unconscious by a basic stun baton. SB would destroy him. When it comes to the supes it's pretty clear Homelander and Soldier Boy are a well defined step above everyone else.
People are really hyping up Sam just because he has super strength, he's not on the level of the 2nd strongest Supe alive who was already known to be far above everyone else when he was number 1.
Homelander is the epitome of power within the series, still by far the strongest. Soldier Boy could easily come up second since he was able to go toe-to-toe with him and did it even better than Queen Maeve who was seen as the next strongest before him. Sam is incredibly powerful, but I don't see him surpassing those top 3.
Sam hasn’t had his powers tested at Herogasm yet
I definitely think Sam could give Soldier Boy and Homelander a big run in terms of pure strength
Tactics would get sam in this 1, not raw power. Like, if they literally went blow for blow till 1 couldn't continue, sam may very well be stronger. Soldier boy has combat toughness but Sam's been legit tortured for years; no chance he'd not relatively match that toughness.
i woulda said hes more like noir since they both see fictional characters and also seem to have the exact same powers as far as ive noticed
Soldier Boy would probably solo the whole of GenV , he was soloing Butcher (can hang with Homelander) , Starlight and Kimiko, i don't see why he could not solo GenV , Andre was especially arrogant to think he can shit talk SB lol , with his durability i think 1 hit from SB would finish him off
hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Why is this even a fight? Soldier Boy absolute wrecks everyone, including Homelander
This is the basis for the boys…the idea that the supes are so strong and famous….yet sooooo fucked up in the head. And the contrast between homelander and butcher, actual proving them more and more alike is what drives the story.
SB is Homelander and Ryan level. It's the same family tree. No contest.
SAM could be held in a cell. So could Maeve. Soldier boy needs to be kept under in order to be held. So it looks like soldier boy takes this one.
Sam hasn’t hurt any innocent people so far in this show. Dr. Cardoza might be the worst one so far, it’s a shame they stopped him.
Cardoza isn't as bad when you learn more about him
Im calling it now sam and golden boy are the offspring of homelander/ soldierboy
Just watched the finale and he completely no sold Kimiko
Sam is strong for sure, but that’s it. he doesn’t have the training or experience that Soldier Boy does. his super strength and durability also seem to be the full extent of his abilities. he doesn’t have any additional things like lasers or flight. then again, he’s young and has been in captivity for a long time, so there’s possibly some untapped powers yet to be revealed.
After season 4
Kimiko gave soldier boy problems whereas Sam didn’t even flinch
? SB grabbed Kimiko by her neck and threw her across the room basically.
She's never even directly fought SB besides that one moment and in that one moment he just tossed her across the room like garbage.
I think Sam is going to be new Black Noir in new season. I am not sure Black Noir is dead but Homelander doesnt let join him to Seven again. Also in the comics black noir is a clone of homelander and Sam has got powers in a lab like Homelander.
I'm pretty sure even Starlight could wipes the floor with Sam come on...
He's literally forgets that the girl told him you don't feel any thing power's.
I'm kinda disappointed that Sam doesn't have any of the fire powers his brother has but he's still pretty cool.
Kimiko and Kenji were siblings, but didn't have the same powers.
@@BrianLe-yf6fe oh yea I forgot.
@@BrianLe-yf6fe I just wish Sam’s powered weren’t just standard super strength and resistance when his brother could light on fire on top of his strength.
@@BrianLe-yf6fe There still a chance that marie's sister can get the same powers if they cant get marie they just might go after her sister and use compound v on her to get the powers
@@Droobie03he has psychic powers
Will Cindy be on gen V, I really can't wait to see her! Sam vs Cindy would be an interesting fight.
Homelander
Kessler butcher
Soldier boy
Temp V butcher
Sam (now)
But, I think with experience Sam could potentially beat SB.
I also think that lack of experience makes him an easy target for some of the weaker supes with nasty stacks of powers that know how to win.
Ie: strength, psychosis & and super jump might not be enough for neuman, starlight or noir.
(Edit: on second thought, I’m not sure where kessler butcher fits as it’s just been instant annihilation against the 2 less durable supes he’s killed).
What if Sam ends up haveing the same powers as Soldier Boy by the end of Gen V/The Boys?
That would be cool!
One is a kid, and the other is a soldier who been in the game 100 years without aging. Hmmmmm....soldier boy of course! One blast from his chest and Sam loses his powers
I don’t think there’s enough on Sam yet to get a gauge on his power level yet.
I wonder who would win this fight Sam vs Ryan
Ohhh that would be an interesting one!
I remember them stating that Golden Boy could've been as strong as homelander, and that sam was stronger than him, so either this is them just saying random shit, or sam has that much potential
I like both but soldier boy is o.p. and just God level
I could see Sam being the next black noir
What's hilarious is how you all are trying to compare a super with super human strength who's only demolished regular people (hes never ripped other supers apart), versus a super (Soldier Boy) who's went toe to toe against Homelander.
It's quite absurd.
Now Sam vs Queen Mave or Sam vs Jordan would make more sense. He's probably beating Jordan outright. And He'd either lose or tie with QM.
But to put him in the claas Soldier Boy??
Get real!
I doubt Sam is even equal to Maeve either.
People really forget Sam gets knocked out by stun batons. lol
Anybody else think Sam might be a young clone of Soldier Boy???
That would be a cool twist!