Microsoft's STUNS with "AI Recall" - Game-Changer or Privacy Nightmare?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024

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  • @vheypreexa
    @vheypreexa 4 месяца назад +183

    at the end, they said it's completely local and they won't use the data. it's ok. big tech companies never lie to their product, I mean customers

    • @aga5979
      @aga5979 4 месяца назад +6

      This is spot on... lol

    • @AustinThomasPhD
      @AustinThomasPhD 4 месяца назад +9

      @@aga5979 It is just like all our devices without microphones are definitely NOT constantly listening to us, recognizing keywords, and matching them to advertising databases.

    • @brianmi40
      @brianmi40 4 месяца назад +3

      @@aga5979 Yeah, no way any PC expert with a monitoring app on the PC can't detect traffic being sent by the app. No way.

    • @Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 4 месяца назад

      You'd have to be delusional to think they don't know what you're doing on your computer now let alone once recall launches lol. They're at least being more transparent about it now.

    • @Bangs_Theory
      @Bangs_Theory 4 месяца назад +1

      Precisely my thoughts, especially the ones Hobnobbing with corrupt politicians... *cough*...Sam Altman.

  • @kayericwinkler
    @kayericwinkler 4 месяца назад +89

    You can’t trust the big companies with private data.

    • @Korodarn
      @Korodarn 4 месяца назад +5

      You can't trust anyone that you don't know, but least those who have incentives to do things not in your interest, or against your interest.
      This certainly includes big companies, but it goes far beyond that. And data isn't private once it's revealed to any party that you can't trust (or trusted when you shouldn't have).

    • @jbo8540
      @jbo8540 4 месяца назад +1

      You had me at "big companies"

    • @adispenser
      @adispenser 4 месяца назад +1

      its local though. everything you do is saved anyway, this just adds ai to it, no privacy is lost

    • @IanHughes-g8x
      @IanHughes-g8x 4 месяца назад

      How insanely clueless these guys are to think that this is acceptable in any way.

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад

      @@adispenserpasswords are about to be scrubbed but say you happen to use show password at an unfortunate time. Now does it really matter this password is on a screenshot on your laptop locally?

  • @ColinTimmins
    @ColinTimmins 4 месяца назад +20

    They use "shopping" as that's all we do now. Consume! consume! consume! Like the good little consumers we've been trained to be. You will own nothing, and be "happy" with it!

    • @contort69
      @contort69 4 месяца назад

      (1)"shopping is ALL they would like is to do" to maintain the status quo. (2) The reason shopping is the focus use case , is if Microsoft was not making money from this feature...this feature would not exist. shopping = advertising = money

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot 4 месяца назад +11

    The problem is Microsoft has demonstrated they cannot be trusted, both in general and specifically when it comes to privacy.

    • @ogx-rz4jr
      @ogx-rz4jr 4 месяца назад

      Every time I see someone crying about MS "spying" they're an iPhone or Android user who have no problems with Apple and Google recording every word they say, face scanning every photo they take, and scanning every document on their phone to upload to iCloud and GoogleDrive. Hypocritical idits pretending to care about privacy, when in reality they're just fanboys hating on their chosen enemy corporation while taking it up the *** from their favored corporation. 1984 already happened 10 years ago on iOS and android. Apple and Android users have already been arrested for photos they took getting misidentified as CP by their AIs. Out of every "person" I've talked to that's flipping out about this ALL of them have been iOS and Android users, zero exceptions. Clown world.

  • @Fonzleberry
    @Fonzleberry 4 месяца назад +23

    I'm fairly happy as a Linux user.

  • @paelnever
    @paelnever 4 месяца назад +39

    Things are going way beyond what George Orwell wrote in his famous book "1984". The today "big brother" that already have control to most of the computers in the world now also want to know what everybody does and says at all moment. I am amazed that anybody at all can believe them when they talk about privacy and say the data is never going to get out of the computer. Seriously? with the history they have as corp and the terrible security breaches their operating systems had along the last 35 years?

    • @naromsky
      @naromsky 4 месяца назад +3

      We could power half the world just from Orwell spinning in his grave.

    • @CM-zl2jw
      @CM-zl2jw 4 месяца назад

      Oh man. People are so naive. I’m looking forward to the day when people are throwing their computers literally out the windows of their tiny Orwellian box apartments that they were convinced to move into because if they own nothing they would be happy. If they don’t have kids, they would be heroes… etc. The gatesian world is not a happy place. None of the billionaires seem …. normal. Elon is so unhappy that he’s planning interplanetary escape. 😂. Where is God when ya need him? These vaccine pushers are out of control. Vaccine my arse btw

  • @baraka99
    @baraka99 4 месяца назад +47

    Privacy issues beyond measure. This is local, soon enough governmentally mandated.

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад +2

      Well at least this video author seems to be happy with the fact these Recall screenshots are stored locally in a secure way only. And even if this holds, he seems to consider this kind of AI features more important than his own privacy and not to store screenshots for his PC use to begin with at all. What to say idk 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @userrjlyj5760g
      @userrjlyj5760g 4 месяца назад +1

      Be careful! It is not local and not private! Period, new line!
      There is no such thing that is called private and local when the brain on the cloud, when the processing model is not on your machine and it is on the cloud owned by some one else!
      Telling me it is local is merely a LIE! I know my data on my machine, I know the processed info will be on my machine, but I also know that the 'Big Brain Model" that processed my data is owned by Microsoft! It took my info, studied it, then processed it , and eventually spit out results for me and saved it on my machine! So, what about the blueprints, what about the data that the cloud model used???????? That's way far from and so opposite to the locality concept!!!!
      I would call it local and private only when they give me the model to download it then use it to process my own data on my machine while I am 100% OFFLINE, and only OFFLINE!

    • @bigglyguy8429
      @bigglyguy8429 4 месяца назад

      @@userrjlyj5760g They are saying it will be processed locally, but the AI knows what it's looking at, so it doesn't need to upload your data, it can just phone home and say what you did on your PC this week.

    • @userrjlyj5760g
      @userrjlyj5760g 4 месяца назад

      ​@@bigglyguy8429
      How should explain it to people 🤥😏 !!
      Here is the thing, when some freak sneaks to your house and takes a look at your naked girl, then that's it! He got the full idea! He is enjoying a very a beautiful satisfying mental picture or view in his mind now! In the meantime you are 100% fine with that and keep saying, that's okay, as far as he didn't my girl from me, she is still here with me LOCALLY!

  • @jeremyp4427
    @jeremyp4427 4 месяца назад +40

    On a corporate workstation, a company could audit all staff daily recalls and get a breakdown of how much time was spent working, what screens were viewed and for how long. Just a wealth of metrics to track on employees and ensure that every moment of the day is spent at peak efficiency. What a time to be at alive at the bottom!

    • @middle-agedmacdonald2965
      @middle-agedmacdonald2965 4 месяца назад +1

      yeah, I just left the same comment. It could write you up for watching a youtube video, or chatting too long......

    • @TheReferrer72
      @TheReferrer72 4 месяца назад +2

      Don't be silly for most corporate jobs it would be hard to tell if someone was using post it notes, reading or in meetings, there are also better ways to keep track of staff like auditing their work output.

    • @yourmomsboyfriend3337
      @yourmomsboyfriend3337 4 месяца назад

      You can already do this, Microsoft isn’t adding this functionality and making it possible for the first time. If your company wants to monitor everything you do, they already are.

    • @brianmi40
      @brianmi40 4 месяца назад +1

      LOL, as if there weren't already a DOZEN apps that corporations can use to do this. Time to catch up with reality.

    • @tombrauey
      @tombrauey 4 месяца назад

      And that‘s the reason why it most likely cannot be used legally in Germany. Surveillance of employees is extremely regulated and the reasons why an employer can do it are very, very limited. Furthermore, the workers council would also have to be involved and they basically have veto power for such technology.

  • @brunodangelo1146
    @brunodangelo1146 4 месяца назад +16

    I'm sure that when you delete your recall data, it will actually do so. Just like Apple devices!
    And I'm glad we can check the code to verify no data leaves the pc. Because this will be open sourced, right?

    • @brianmi40
      @brianmi40 4 месяца назад

      You seem to not know that software does NOT have to be open source to see data traffic leaving the PC.

    • @brunodangelo1146
      @brunodangelo1146 4 месяца назад

      @@brianmi40 you seem to not know that encrypted data leaving the PC can contain anything.

    • @brianmi40
      @brianmi40 4 месяца назад

      @@brunodangelo1146 You seem to not know that NO DATA should be LEAVING the PC with this app.
      Duh.
      This would be BUSTED in initial testing.
      Time to come back to REALITY.

    • @daydrip
      @daydrip 4 месяца назад

      @@brianmi40idk they could make an excuse up and say it’s not your data. Ppl won’t care if the product is good 😪

    • @Mammel248
      @Mammel248 4 месяца назад

      @@brianmi40 yeah microsoft wouldn't lie to you about that, would they? not when they can make millions and millions of dollars off our personal data
      just like if you would disable sending telemetry it would "magically" get re-enabled with updates and all that stuff, never happened before
      but be my guest and stay naive ;) if you keep using windows you're asking for it

  • @trashboat2821
    @trashboat2821 4 месяца назад +20

    You know what this means, I may be switching to Linux. Proton makes most of my games work

    • @yourmomsboyfriend3337
      @yourmomsboyfriend3337 4 месяца назад

      You can just keep using windows, this feature only works on their new laptops using ARM chips

    • @MarquisDeSang
      @MarquisDeSang 4 месяца назад +1

      Linux already dominate the world with 100% servers use Linux and Android is Linux.

  • @dholzric1
    @dholzric1 4 месяца назад +9

    Its windows... its not secure.

  • @DailyTuna
    @DailyTuna 4 месяца назад +6

    People are waking up to what these big tech companies are doing with AI. It’s not only about replacing you. It’s by keeping you in a digital cage.

  • @xhy20x
    @xhy20x 4 месяца назад +22

    I imagine larger organisations will relish this functionality in the workplace. They can monitor everything. In line with the dystopian future.

    • @jackbauer322
      @jackbauer322 4 месяца назад

      there are things called LAWS

    • @xhy20x
      @xhy20x 4 месяца назад +2

      @@jackbauer322 In the UK, if there is disclosure of how your data is being used, it is legal to monitor all staff.

    • @brianmi40
      @brianmi40 4 месяца назад

      LOL, as if there weren't already a DOZEN apps corporations can/have used to monitor what you do on their PCs. Ask your HR dept.: they can COMPLETELY MONITOR what you do with THEIR EQUIPMENT.

    • @trtnec
      @trtnec 4 месяца назад

      my company's been doing that for years. It's even included in our okta apps where we can see all the metrics being tracked and whether we need work on a given metric or not. Recall wouldn't change anything

    • @xhy20x
      @xhy20x 4 месяца назад

      @@trtnec What about confidential data, it is not just about snooping on employees. Credit card details could be compromised. Who likes Microsoft anyway? They have never innovated in their 48 year history.

  • @middle-agedmacdonald2965
    @middle-agedmacdonald2965 4 месяца назад +17

    When do we start allowing ai to start reporting the bad guys with bad stuff they do, or have proof they have done? If someone is using that ai computer, is it obligated to report someone doing illegal things?

    • @darwinboor1300
      @darwinboor1300 4 месяца назад +3

      Like viewing information on birth control and/or abortion.

    • @spearmintcookies1568
      @spearmintcookies1568 4 месяца назад

      No, it should not be obligated to report someone for illegal things without the user knowing that the AI had the potential to do that.

    • @MrGaborKukucska
      @MrGaborKukucska 4 месяца назад

      What is "legal" is a construct that changes massively depending on your geographical location though so this is a dangerous lane. I agree that there should be a sub system baked into every inference that alerts certain systems but following what principles I believe should be decided by the network (people) itself rather a central authority of a company or a nation state.

    • @daveinpublic
      @daveinpublic 4 месяца назад +1

      It’s dangerous because the ai knows what you’re doing… it understands.
      So the cia could just search “what illegal things has this person done”
      Or.. “what illegal things happened in Tennessee today?”

    • @doctorpatient519
      @doctorpatient519 4 месяца назад

      "He knows when you are sleeping,
      He knows when you're awake,
      He knows if you've been bad or good,
      So be good for goodness' sake!"
      [ AI Claus is coming to town ]

  • @kgnet8831
    @kgnet8831 4 месяца назад +9

    +1 for the shopping rant alone 👍🤣

  • @OzzieBird
    @OzzieBird 4 месяца назад +6

    Mother Of All Keystroke Loggers

  • @paulsaulpaul
    @paulsaulpaul 4 месяца назад +1

    The data might stay "private," but they didn't mention the weights staying private. Been saying for a while now that generative AI is a trojan horse so people allow the eyes and ears of AI into their home as personal assistants, etc. The normalization of these technologies across generations will eventually cause people to allow themselves to be manipulated by these AIs. AIs that will then coordinate together to manipulate society as a whole. Won't be long until the courts and government are being ran by it. And you won't be able to question it, because "the machine is never wrong." But the human controllers will be the ones calling the shots. And you won't be able to hold them accountable. Men behind the curtain. Pay no attention to them.
    They've already use machine learning for years to manipulate people with content curation algorithms on social media. Works quite well. And works toward the demise of most people, in my opinion. Give it more data, and they'll be able to correlate, predict, and manipulate your behavior even more.
    People that have blindly worshiped this technology (I call them transhumanists as disparagingly as they consider me and my metaphysics) truly do profess their loyalty to the beast that represents the pride of man. And they will reject those from society like me that do not accept to live in their new Tower of Babel they have built of silicone.

    • @SimSim314
      @SimSim314 4 месяца назад +1

      We have this kind of manipulation for long time done by people to other people. what do you think - believing king has a heavenly right to rule is not a manipulation? That democratically elected individual have the right to rule it's not a manipulation? It's just new manipulators doing a better job, when zuki or tiktok decide what are the community norms is not biased? I would guess on the manipulation front, that AI as a neutral agent by itself, has better chances to provide neutral information according to client requests, and not being manipulative as much as people. Not to ignore the probable threat of being manipulated more efficiently by other people through AI and not only though "education system", mass media, commercials, social media etc.

  • @Korodarn
    @Korodarn 4 месяца назад +6

    This needs to be completely open source or nobody should believe them.

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад

      Just out of curiosity what difference would open source make here? You can screenrecord your PC use 24/7 already now and go through this recording yourself the way that suits you the best. But can you think of a single use case where anyone would want to do so?

    • @HeresMyView
      @HeresMyView 4 месяца назад

      ​@SmattHarri, it can be used for massive Surveillance Capitalism or sharing surveillance with govt without having to get a warrant, court order or authorization.

    • @Korodarn
      @Korodarn 3 месяца назад

      @@SmattHarri This isn't a screen recording. This is a screen recording with an AI on top of it that will watch the video for you and identify what you were doing and then can advise you about things you forgot using natural language.
      It's not the same thing at all, and there are definitely times this could be useful, if you didn't put your files in a good heirarchy, for example. Many people manage files poorly, so there are definitely use cases for the software.
      But the whole pipeline needs to be something you trust works for you. The weights need to be open so you can check inference results on other tasks to determine if it's good at what it does. The tools that do the inference on the recording need to be open so you can confirm there is no telemetry or other data sharing going on.

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle 4 месяца назад +7

    Nightmare.... Hackers/Malware writers will have a field day with this.

  • @areacode3816
    @areacode3816 4 месяца назад +3

    There is no way M$ won't abuse this

  • @Baleur
    @Baleur 4 месяца назад +2

    I think the reason these tech companies always use boring shopping or "find my meeting notes / pdf presentation" example cases, is because if they ACTUALLY used the tech in a normal private user setting, people would instantly see the red flags.
    If shes just searching through harmless "Blue dresses" online, doesnt matter.
    But if she showed her personal PC and she asked live on stage "find my picture where i had a red dress", oh baby some saucy stuff might come up.
    The point being, they're intentionally doing the safest lamest use case examples, to delay as long as possible, peoples reaction of "oh shit, this AI sees EVERYTHINGG i do and saves EVERY website, image, video, chat history i EVER had????? Helllll no".....
    They NEVER show a personal private pc use case.
    They always ONLY show a professional business pc use case, as if you're in the office.

  • @rbw7456
    @rbw7456 4 месяца назад +1

    George Orwell warned us of this. It seems that Microsoft wants to know everything you're doing. What the hell happened to you? Microsoft?

  • @JohnSmith762A11B
    @JohnSmith762A11B 4 месяца назад +6

    It's completely local, till the government kick your door down and have a look-see.

    • @userrjlyj5760g
      @userrjlyj5760g 4 месяца назад

      Be careful! It is not local and not private! Period, new line!
      There is no such thing that is called private and local when the brain on the cloud, when the processing model is not on your machine and it is on the cloud owned by some one else!
      Telling me it is local is merely a LIE! I know my data on my machine, I know the processed info will be on my machine, but I also know that the 'Big Brain Model" that processed my data is owned by Microsoft! It took my info, studied it, then processed it , and eventually spit out results for me and saved it on my machine! So, what about the blueprints, what about the data that the cloud model used???????? That's way far from and so opposite to the locality concept!!!!
      I would call it local and private only when they give me the model to download it then use it to process my own data on my machine while I am 100% OFFLINE, and only OFFLINE!

    • @liamc4113
      @liamc4113 4 месяца назад

      @@userrjlyj5760g Stop spamming. I won't trust any sensitive data store in any hard drive that is connected to the internet with regular "Window Update" anyway. But they said local inferencing, not "the brain on the cloud". Listen more closely before spamming.

  • @grproteus
    @grproteus 4 месяца назад +1

    You can't be THAT naive.
    What stops a malicious program from "locally querying" your PC about specific things you did while using it?
    What stops Microsoft from silently updating your PC with a system that allows agencies to query it for specific activity? They have done it in the past.
    Smart devices, dumb users.

  • @greyskullmcbeef4901
    @greyskullmcbeef4901 4 месяца назад +2

    As long as someone can get your password, they can find anything you've ever done. Local.

  • @ContagiousRepublic
    @ContagiousRepublic 4 месяца назад +2

    If your 2 spending habits on your PC is ordering pizza, and gaming, it will show you ads about pizza games 100% of the time and you'll never know when a cool new non-pizza game or movie or book or anime is out, will never learn about ASMR or new cat memes, and all your HFY stories you read on youtube will not show in youtube search first 100 pages as AI-made stories will be 790 pages of search result deep most of which started copying other AI stories.

  • @Dfd_Free_Speech
    @Dfd_Free_Speech 4 месяца назад +12

    Total Nightmare

  • @igorsolomatov4743
    @igorsolomatov4743 4 месяца назад +2

    Now question how this thing will be used by corporations? Will they control it? Can they enable it for you without asking? Micromanagement?

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад

      Is there any company with IT department which would allow use of this feature, not even per request? Even Microsoft itself apart from this promo video here? Satya Nadella has screenshots recorded while going through business details with customers or internal meetings, surely yes, quite obviously right?

  • @KitchenMycology
    @KitchenMycology 4 месяца назад +3

    We're going to be sooooooo Stupid in 3 to 4 years, we're going to need AI Robots to wipe our A$$! 😳😬

    • @VioFax
      @VioFax 4 месяца назад

      No they will just force you to let them because they wont trust you to do it yourself. TP will be controlled like pharmacy drugs. And if you do want to wipe your own ass you will be required to have a license that costs 10,000 liquid asset credits.

    • @nokts3823
      @nokts3823 4 месяца назад

      I betcha the same argument was made when people started using calculators over the abacus.

    • @KitchenMycology
      @KitchenMycology 4 месяца назад

      @@nokts3823 Of course. I'm old enough to have met a bunch of old farts that could do amazing math in their head all the time, and made fun of me for not being able to do simple math in my head.
      Also, I used to carry everyone's phone number in my head. Dozens of phone numbers... Now, I can't remember anyone's number. I made a physical list of important phone numbers for emergencies in case something happened to my phone. 😳
      BTW... I learned to use the abacus in elementary school! 😂 Can't remember how to do now...

  • @markbremerkamp6614
    @markbremerkamp6614 4 месяца назад +5

    Microsoft will probably use the visual understanding of the work you do on the your desktop, to train a new model which is better and quicker at it then you ever can be. All of the work done on a desktop. Do we want to give that to microsoft? I sure don't.

  • @jeffspaulding43
    @jeffspaulding43 4 месяца назад +1

    Recall seems like a BS reason to collect actual valuable "what would a human do in front of a computer" data. remembering that brown dress is really not that useful.

  • @unkown34x33
    @unkown34x33 4 месяца назад +1

    this recall needs to be illegal... this cannot go forward! Microsoft will put all of the info on the cloud, and then... everyone that has this system it's screwed. we gotta stick together and say noooo

  • @kielhawkins9529
    @kielhawkins9529 4 месяца назад +2

    Who is this feature for? What problem does it actually solve? I still haven’t heard that sales pitch.

  • @JustMe-ne5dw
    @JustMe-ne5dw 4 месяца назад +5

    Annnnnnnnnd then there’s the next update and a little checkbox at the end of the 50 page EULA.

    • @jw8160
      @jw8160 4 месяца назад

      🤔 Feed the EULA into a GPT to find the problems?

    • @JustMe-ne5dw
      @JustMe-ne5dw 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jw8160 yeah and then ask if there is any legal basis for demanding that you give up any modicum of privacy for the rest of eternity.

  • @userrjlyj5760g
    @userrjlyj5760g 4 месяца назад

    It is not local and not private! Period, new line!
    There is no such thing that is called private and local when the brain on the cloud, when the processing model is not on your machine and it is on the cloud owned by some one else!
    Telling me it is local is merely a LIE! I know my data on my machine, I know the processed info will be on my machine, but I also know that the 'Big Brain Model" that processed my data is owned by Microsoft! It took my info, studied it, then processed it , and eventually spit out results for me and saved it on my machine! So, what about the blueprints, what about the data that the cloud model used???????? That's way far from and so opposite to the locality concept!!!!
    I would call it local and private only when they give me the model to download it then use it to process my own data on my machine while I am 100% OFFLINE, and only OFFLINE!

  • @shApYT
    @shApYT 4 месяца назад +1

    Why shopping? Because consumerism powers capitalism.

  • @marcfruchtman9473
    @marcfruchtman9473 4 месяца назад +3

    I personally think this is a huge waste of my computers resources. Anywhere I visit on my browser is "already" recorded and I don't need screenshots of my day to waste my hard drive space. I can just type "shopping" in my browser history to get the same info, and it would be much less use of storage. Putting the storage in the cloud (to save space locally) seems to be a privacy issue long term as well. I don't buy into the idea that the *entire Inference engine* will be local, so I would like to see where they say that. Often these things are misdirection. So, my guess is that the "MPU" will "assist" in the inference, but not actually run all of it, and it will likely connect to the cloud.

    • @peterwood6875
      @peterwood6875 4 месяца назад

      Microsoft waste your computers resources with all their new features? That would never happen...

  • @InnocentiusLacrimosa
    @InnocentiusLacrimosa 4 месяца назад +1

    I am not that worried about this. I live in EU, our privacy laws are strict. If MS says it is only local, it will be only local. There will be either opt-in or opt-out. Data will be encrypted, there will be privacy modes. There will be just too much for MS to lose here without doing this right.

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад

      I for one hope EU will act the way they should in regard to GDPR and there won’t be opt-in or opt-out, just Windows without this useless feature altogether for those who still want to carry on with them.

    • @userrjlyj5760g
      @userrjlyj5760g 4 месяца назад

      Be careful! It is not local and not private! Period, new line!
      There is no such thing that is called private and local when the brain on the cloud, when the processing model is not on your machine and it is on the cloud owned by some one else!
      Telling me it is local is merely a LIE! I know my data on my machine, I know the processed info will be on my machine, but I also know that the 'Big Brain Model" that processed my data is owned by Microsoft! It took my info, studied it, then processed it , and eventually spit out results for me and saved it on my machine! So, what about the blueprints, what about the data that the cloud model used???????? That's way far from and so opposite to the locality concept!!!!
      I would call it local and private only when they give me the model to download it then use it to process my own data on my machine while I am 100% OFFLINE, and only OFFLINE!

  • @ArashArfaee
    @ArashArfaee 4 месяца назад +1

    Doing things locally does not guarantee better privacy, but it increases the potential for improved privacy and boosts user confidence in their privacy, whether justified or not.

  • @jeremybristol4374
    @jeremybristol4374 4 месяца назад +2

    Read the Windows Terms of Use document. They already share telemetry with themselves and 3rd party partners. Sharing AI telemetry? That's IP risk.

  • @tmendoza6
    @tmendoza6 4 месяца назад +1

    This is a prison sentence for your kids tell Microsoft to stuff it and go to Linux

  • @epiconceptepi763
    @epiconceptepi763 4 месяца назад +1

    Matt. Totally share your sentiment. WHY ALWAYS THE SHOPPING USE CASE ??? Shopping wont make humanity or your life better!

  • @ivanneshkov9363
    @ivanneshkov9363 4 месяца назад +1

    I’m not okay with this at all.
    I remember the dystopian “visions” of the future these companies had when I was working at DXC.
    No thanks.

  • @Sparky_Otter
    @Sparky_Otter 4 месяца назад +1

    I switched to linux before this was announced, Seeing this move from Microsoft is scary, dark, and dystopian. This is closed-source so we have no idea what could happen, and Microsoft could change things without notice. I made the switch, and I am glad I'm never looking back.

  • @keithprice3369
    @keithprice3369 4 месяца назад +1

    On the one hand, I don't fully trust when they say they "won't access your private data. If the capability is there, I just feel someone will eventually turn it on -- maybe just a disgruntled employee or an employee who's suspicious of their significant other taking a peek.
    On the other hand, all that exists now. There's no technical reason MS couldn't snoop on everything on my computer right now if they wanted to. So, what are we actually risking that we're not risking already?

  • @Metaworldwide
    @Metaworldwide 4 месяца назад +1

    You need to speak on Rabbit! Was you paid to promote the fraudulent product, is this why you are still backing it?

  • @ziff_1
    @ziff_1 4 месяца назад +1

    "only available on these advanced PC's" --- good. That keeps it off mine. MS in 2050: "we'll be sitting in your bedroom watching everything you do"

  • @TiagoSantos-fd4le
    @TiagoSantos-fd4le 4 месяца назад +1

    If you have a problem not finding a file in a computer, you probably should first learn how to search. If you have too many tabs open and can't find the one you want, there's already something called "browser history". What problem is this solving? And when is this going to be more efficient than your knowledge of how to use the existing tools?

  • @PrincessBeeRelink
    @PrincessBeeRelink 4 месяца назад

    its important to note that microsoft have always operated like this. new feature, secure, and then once everyone can't live without it, that's when they change their privacy policy and start uploading your telemetry.

  • @genx7006
    @genx7006 4 месяца назад +4

    If this is limited to work-related conversations or work emails...cool. But your browser histories? There's a reason we CLEAR our browser histories. I don't want my personal information suspended in memory indefinitely. This is horrendous.

    • @HeresMyView
      @HeresMyView 4 месяца назад

      It appears Total Recall can retrieve ALL your historical activities including your browser histories. Clearing your browser histories is useless. It is great for IRS, law enforcement, employers. govt agencies, scammers, fraudsters, and authorities.

    • @SimSim314
      @SimSim314 4 месяца назад

      Maybe you can disable it - but will you trust the system is actually disabled? I know I won't, and thinking I need to disable a system every time I browse the internet, no thanks! This renders it useless.

  • @__ZANE__
    @__ZANE__ 4 месяца назад +2

    windows 11 already secretly does this!

  • @TripleOmega
    @TripleOmega 4 месяца назад +1

    One concern that I still have that wasn't addressed is the separation of content/use cases. If you use your PC for work and private you don't want the two mixing together all the time. I'm sure people won't be very happy if their personal photos or other files popup when searching for a work related thing. Also searching in front of other people could cause some problems there as well.

  • @theterminaldave
    @theterminaldave 4 месяца назад

    I swear Microsoft sits around and listens to a lot of great ideas, and then picks the worst possible one.

  • @RobertBrinson
    @RobertBrinson 4 месяца назад +1

    I might be mistaken, but I think utilizing Recall, at least utilizing it well, will require that you also have the right hardware. I don't think it's a coincidence that this Windows feature is being announced at the same time as the Copilot+ PCs powered by Snapdragon X processors with NPUs. From what I understand Intel has announced that their Lunar Lake CPU will exceed NPU requirements to power the Copilot feature. Having said that, I don't trust Microsoft, Apple, Meta/Facebook, or Google to not collect data to monetize; it's just who they are. There's a very good reason why a significant number of people have migrated to more secure and privacy-centric alternatives, even if that means paying a subscription.

  • @peterwood6875
    @peterwood6875 4 месяца назад

    Why all the shopping use case? Because tech companies and their biggest customers make money by selling ads and selling stuff. The biggest AI risk I'm concerned about is it's use to get us to consume more and more stuff we don't need, using more energy, generating more emissions, and condemning future generations and the planet to worse climate change. I haven't heard anyone who talks about AI safety talk about this risk. It is another reason why open source models are so important.

  • @jarlaxle6591
    @jarlaxle6591 4 месяца назад +2

    Guy said he would not train new models on customer data. Notice how he didn't say anything about selling users data or other wise monetizing it

  • @themoviesite
    @themoviesite 4 месяца назад

    MS speaks with forked tongue ... talks about "ever seen on device" and elsewhere talks about deleting old stuff when storage space hits limit.

  • @David-tp7sr
    @David-tp7sr 4 месяца назад +1

    The shopping use case is for investors and to reassure advertisers.

  • @a3hindawi
    @a3hindawi 4 месяца назад +1

    Most LLM have 2 bytes for each parameter. So, to load say 70B parameter model, you would need 140GB of memory to fit the parameters in memory to do any inference. You can fit only a small LLM in memory on most PCs and these probably have to be quantised (lowering their parameters from 16 bits to 8 or even 4) and hence lowering their quality. The fact is, LLM are large and for a large model you need a large amount of memory to run it locally.

  • @juancamiloza
    @juancamiloza 4 месяца назад +1

    Nope, nope, nope…we can’t allow this. The “practicalities” of this feature are nothing compared to the issues it raises

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад

      Funny thing is, if Microsoft would put some effort on this and implement this kind of feature more secure, and not rely on screenshots but some metadata alike information to search use history, it would be somewhat useless. You would get timestamp and rough estimation what you had on screen at a time as a search result but nothing compared to screenshot clarity.

    • @Xyzcba4
      @Xyzcba4 4 месяца назад

      Also, just think what s huge security risk this is going to be to every other government in the world. With that in mind I don't think Microsoft will do this

  • @Mbro-dq2do
    @Mbro-dq2do 3 месяца назад

    Bro youre not ranting. Shopping is the lamest example ever. Mac and Linux folks is the best way. Microsoft is just that SOFT. Great video dude

  • @thatjpwing
    @thatjpwing 4 месяца назад

    @1:04 if you can't figure out where you "put that folder or photo" with today's technology, you shouldn't be using a computer. This new "feature" from Microsoft is just marching us faster and faster to a dystopian nightmare

  • @Tetsujinfr
    @Tetsujinfr 4 месяца назад +1

    And Recall is free! So trust us, you are not the product here, we swear...

  • @ThomQuinnHere
    @ThomQuinnHere 4 месяца назад +2

    The government is very interested to learn more…

  • @erikjohnson9112
    @erikjohnson9112 4 месяца назад +1

    They use careful wording to make it sound local. I would want assurances that no data, including derived data, is visible outside of the physical device. They could call it telemetry otherwise to leak data.

  • @pablomax9376
    @pablomax9376 4 месяца назад

    That's a solid NOPE-
    There is zero chance that companies will not use this a tool to monitor each second of what you are doing on the computer.

  • @PaintedCloudsStudio
    @PaintedCloudsStudio 4 месяца назад

    Let’s be clear. If you use a work computer for private business, you should know the implications. The same is true if you use a shared computer at work. This recall tool does not keep separate history of different users. Don’t blame the tool for what is designed for. Same is true if you are sloppy about security.

  • @theresalwaysanotherway3996
    @theresalwaysanotherway3996 4 месяца назад +2

    all these people fear mongering about privacy, you can do some pretty simple tests to see if they're lying. Turn off your wifi and try the feature, does it still work? Alright now connect to your wifi and use a program like wireshark to monitor your outbound traffic, any large packets going to microsoft servers when you enable the feature? You could even go one step further and record all wifi traffic on a device with nothing but recall and some basic apps like notepad, for a full 24h. The fact is microsoft isn't going to lie about this, it's too easy to catch them up on the lie. Maybe in a few years time they start adding features that are available online only such as smarter captioning or audio recording or something, but they'll make it clear when they're sending the data back, because again, it's super easy to check this stuff yourself.

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад

      How about us who want to disable this feature altogether and moreover prefer to have OS installed which doesn’t have this screenshot feed storing implemented at all?

    • @theresalwaysanotherway3996
      @theresalwaysanotherway3996 4 месяца назад

      @@SmattHarri then don't turn it on? It's a separate feature that you can simply not use if you want

    • @JohnSmith762A11B
      @JohnSmith762A11B 4 месяца назад

      @@theresalwaysanotherway3996 I’d want it completely uninstalled. Permanently.

  • @OriginalRaveParty
    @OriginalRaveParty 4 месяца назад +1

    No. Nope. No. Never.

  • @redstrat1234
    @redstrat1234 4 месяца назад +1

    ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE.

  • @Topinamburenjoyer
    @Topinamburenjoyer 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow, we will need a lot of disk space for all those snapshots. And they will wear out much faster with all the writing and deleting of the snapshot history when it fills up

  • @jim7060
    @jim7060 4 месяца назад

    Cons:
    - May require significant storage space on your device to save all viewed content.
    - Accuracy of voice-activated search could be a concern if it doesn't recognize specific words or accents.
    - May not be compatible with all devices or operating systems.

  • @ptyspawnbinbash
    @ptyspawnbinbash 4 месяца назад +1

    Do you have a video on what kind of setup is preferred to run top-tier local LLMs?

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад

      Try to search what Apple users have been up to. Then be assured that these recent Qualcomm NPUs outperform those results in speed at least you can find currently. I had no issues running few LLMs locally on my default MacBook Pro M2 just for the sake I can at least.

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot 4 месяца назад

    12:17 Note how he only specified the one thing they promise not use your info for; imagine all the other uses he left out because Microsoft does what Microsoft does...

  • @PaintedCloudsStudio
    @PaintedCloudsStudio 4 месяца назад

    Know what this tool is designed for. The adage “Poor workers blame the tool” applies if you misuse this feature or sloppy about security.

  • @alxcnwy
    @alxcnwy 4 месяца назад

    I think leaning into training models on rewind/recall data is the most interesting part of this recording telemetry tech. I should be able to train an agent that works like me and can "execute" steps taken in my past rewinds. The obvious issue is privacy but you can redact the rewind as it's being streamed to somewhere that a model is trained on it, and the process of redaction is essentially giving you placeholders would benefit LAM model training. Or you could do a federated learning approach and just send the model, not the data, to update a global model.

  • @Bamsebjorn5000
    @Bamsebjorn5000 4 месяца назад

    Why do I even want to recall what I did on my computer 10 hours ago? This is just so they can sell your data. Soon they will introduce ads in windows too.

  • @rjmunt
    @rjmunt 4 месяца назад +1

    Screenshots + Llava + tesseract + database + llama3 = diy recall?

  • @jimigoodmojo
    @jimigoodmojo 4 месяца назад

    Can google do this for us across their services? I know that is zero privacy, but it already was. I want Recall for gmail, chrome browsing history, gmail, youtube views, etc... still want private Recall on trusted device, but I want to Recall from everywhere I consume.

  • @rogermoeller7350
    @rogermoeller7350 4 месяца назад +1

    What a great way to get your whole life hacked!

  • @StuartJ
    @StuartJ 4 месяца назад

    The European Union is going to go nuts over this. In fact they already are.

  • @lorinkundert
    @lorinkundert 24 дня назад

    Recall chills my blood, never be allowed on my device, if I can't stop it, I will delete Windows

  • @cerebralparasite9238
    @cerebralparasite9238 4 месяца назад

    Microsoft needs to be broken up because they're anti-competitive.

  • @JamesHayek
    @JamesHayek 4 месяца назад

    How does this work in an office setting?
    Let’s just say I’m having a private discussion on teams with my manager, I find it scary, knowing that it could be recorded without notifying me that something is being recorded

  • @YattishRamhorry
    @YattishRamhorry 4 месяца назад

    Can 'Total' Recall be turned on/off or are Windows users forced into using it?
    What about space requirements for storing all these images locally?

  • @anta-zj3bw
    @anta-zj3bw 4 месяца назад

    Apple is not a One Zillion dollar company for nothing. They are usually very reserved and tight-lipped with their tech. I am not an Apple person, but even I know that.

  • @benjaminstular3127
    @benjaminstular3127 4 месяца назад +1

    The idea SOUNDS practical, but… I’ve been testing Rewind (the product that Matt mentiones that is the EXACT same thing and it exists for a year and they totally stole it and they totally ruined a cute startup in the process) and the thing is, I only used it two or three times in a month. In practice, it’s far less usable then the idea of it. BTW, with Rewind it uses about 14GB/month and you can set retention period to whatever. Since they totaly riped of the tech (they may have bough it, though, because even the design of time line and the like is the same) this will probably be the same as well. @Matt: you should really test Rewind, most of your questions will be answered.

  • @bradstudio
    @bradstudio 4 месяца назад

    Once you go Mac, you never go back. NEVER!!!

  • @thegooddoctor6719
    @thegooddoctor6719 4 месяца назад

    Why do I see major lawsuits happening down the road. Not sure this will be an AI people will really want. I think it should be mandatory as an Opt-In option, Not an Opt-Out ....

  • @brianWreaves
    @brianWreaves 4 месяца назад +1

    I will avoid such a feature for as long as I can. Eventually, it will no longer be an option, I'm sure.
    One use case where it would be of value is if it captured a previous version of a file when versioning isn't available and it was able to provide more than a screenshot of said file's version but instead the version itself.

    • @SmattHarri
      @SmattHarri 4 месяца назад

      Has Apple patented Time Machine features so well that Windows only option is to head for screenshots storing?

  • @russha5891
    @russha5891 4 месяца назад

    He only said the index is stored locally, so you delete the index of what it remembers.

  • @inteligenciamilgrau
    @inteligenciamilgrau 4 месяца назад

    When Microsoft started to showing a lot of features using Bing I thought i was about leave chrome and start to use Edge. But Microsoft still is microsoft, and have this kind of real boring way to interact with users! So today, I'm still using chrome, and go to Edge when I want to create some image for free inside the chat or with image creator!! As soon I've created, close and come back! lol! But I remember at the beginning considering change to Edge, but Microsoft is a professional making things work not so good, and delivering a bad experience at some point of the journey! Everything that microsoft do is always almost what we need! Thats the point

  • @Sorpendium
    @Sorpendium 4 месяца назад

    Can you imagine when they make the first operating system that is run completely on a neural net?

  • @daveinpublic
    @daveinpublic 4 месяца назад

    The only problem is that it will take 1 TB of your SSD every month.

  • @RS-oq4wu
    @RS-oq4wu 4 месяца назад

    Why do all these Big Tech copanies keep doing presentations with people who have foreign accents!!!!
    WTF!
    This is America

  • @I-Dophler
    @I-Dophler 4 месяца назад

    Tech companies often use AI for shopping in their demos and presentations because it's a relatable and practical use case that resonates with a broad audience. Most people do shopping regularly, so demonstrating how AI can streamline and enhance the shopping experience can quickly illustrate the potential benefits of the technology.
    Additionally, shopping involves various elements AI can optimise, such as search functionality, personalisation, recommendation systems, and image recognition. These aspects showcase AI's versatility and capabilities in handling complex tasks and improving user experiences.
    However, it's understandable that some people might find the focus on shopping repetitive or uninspiring. There are undoubtedly many other fascinating and impactful applications of AI beyond shopping, and it would be refreshing to see tech companies explore a more diverse range of use cases in their demonstrations.

  • @checksinthemail
    @checksinthemail 4 месяца назад +1

    You were pretty snarky today, which was great...... arg, shopping!

  • @plazi4
    @plazi4 4 месяца назад

    For the memory of a lifetime, Recall, Recall Recall

  • @JamesRogersProgrammer
    @JamesRogersProgrammer 4 месяца назад

    That might work on a brand new computer with state of the art npu and gpu available to use this. But most of us have older hardware that would need to have the data uploaded to the cloud to be processed. The only way to see what is happening is to use these items and see what is uploaded across the network. We need to confirm that this is 100% local and nothing is sent to the web.

  • @scottsanford1451
    @scottsanford1451 3 месяца назад

    I'm holding out for the next version, 'Total Recall'. I hear that's going to blow your mind.