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Ok this time I'm sure you were out off Dugas rd lol I trap raccoon in that exact place and hunt in the whole area all the time. I use the truckers hitch and improvised marlin spike hitch all the time for all kinds of applications which I learned from you. Thank you for all the great information you provide. Love your videos and your channel keep up the good work! Maybe I'll run into you out there sometime stay safe brother.
I've always done the trucker's hitch for a ridge line. I do use taught line hitch for tightening up the ends of a tarp from tent stakes. You can't get your ridge line tight enough using taught line hitch because you can't really crank on it like you mentioned.
My son is a British army cadet I told him your system but we use three Prusik knots with very light weight aluminium carabiners his Sargent was so impressed with his overall performance and set up instead of the usual heavy and bulky elastic bungees that asked my son where he got his awesome idea from and he took FULL CREDIT!! , the little brow nose is now a Lance Corporal Thank you Corporal!!
I, too, am all for the trucker's hitch. However, I think a more objective comparison would have been the taut line hitch vs purely the trucker's hitch, NOT the taut line hitch vs the trucker's hitch + prusik loops. I'm just saying, it became a bit too much like apples and oranges for me...and I have often wondered about people's preferences (possible advantages) between the two. A fair head-to-head would be better...including just putting the prusik loops on the taut line hitch.
a taut line hitch gives you no mechanical advantage, the trucker's hitch gives a two-to-one advantage. So, you're able to exert greater pressure on the ridge line with the trucker's hitch. That two-to-one advantage is why truckers are so fond of the hitch, it allows loads to be better secured.
Guys, just show a little courtesy for his way of teaching before criticizing. Actually try what he is showing and you just might learn something. I have been tying knots before this man was conceived and can tell you what he shows us has real practical value. If you think you know it all, you leave yourself no room to grow or improve!!
I’ve watched countless videos and could never figure out how to make this simple hitch, others make it too complicated or do not explain it properly, thank you for this great lesson. Tried it once in my kitchen by using two different door knobs for the support and got it done on the 1st try. Thanks!
You should check out The Prepared channel's version, that lady explains it so well and gives a few extra great tips like a simple loop to secure the truckers hitch, tightening the toggles by rolling them, and an awesome quick bowline. Trust me she is awesome
I like them both. Pitch multiple geometries for different contingencies and use different knots as needed. No controversy in my camp. Another informative vid - Thanks.
AS A MATTER OF FACT SIR!!!!!! ……………… I didn’t know any knots before I found your channel. Your channel inspired me to go out and give hiking, camping and bushcraft a try. I was always interested but I had no training and didn’t know where to start. I’m still a beginner but everything I learn I can now teach to my kids. Your content is awesome keep up the good work and thank you for your service.
I’ve been using your ridge line technique for the past year now and your knot videos have improved my camping experience. No longer spending time undoing crappy tie downs. Quick release and I’m ready to roll.
While I agree the truckie is the superior of the two, it's sort of a false equivalency here. You haven't compared them fairly when you add Prusik loops to only one of the two models.
I think the argument was that his use of truckie and prusiks is too complicated and all you need is taut line hitch with 2 sticks. But i agree, the comparison is a bit unfair in the bigger picture.
This is why I like your channel. You do what you know, and try other suggestions, instead of insinuating youre the know all end all. I appreciate your insight and your time, to teach us young bucks how to survive and thrive. Your channel is relaxing to watch after a full day of BS and PC culture at work etc. Respect and thank you corporal!
Your Ridgeline system is outstanding. This video shows how much thought went into this system. I always carry one such Ridgeline with me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Truckers hitch is a good knot, for sure. However, it seemed that the downsides you had with the taut line hitch would be largely avoided if you added prussic loops like you had on your other setup. Or, if you simply rotate the toggles to move/tighten/loosen the tarp... Yes, you can get the truckers hitch line tighter because of leverage, but nearly everything else, including the plow point shelter, is also possible with the taut line. Use what you know, either can be used to quickly setup a tarp.
One thing i've noticed is that tightening the taut-line actually pulls the cord around whole back end of the tree, which can be bad for the cord if you have one with rough flakey bark like the one you're sitting in front of in this video. The trucker's hitch in comparison has the slack walked around the tree then tightened and tied off at the side.
Trackers hitch and similar polyspast systems with no blocks cause much more damage to the rope than simply rubbing it over the tree with similar force applied. Paracord 550 has 250 kilos (550 pounds) break strength. In CCs system you have a joint of two ropes each of which is bent in a sharp angle (almost 180 degrees) which means that outer rope fibers are already stretched more than the inner ones (practically, inner ones are almost not working and all the force is applied to outer ones). This bend causes a huge loss of the rope strength in specific bend place. I could find exact numbers, but considering a simple figure eight causes a loss of 40-45% of strengths, such a sharp bend should probably cause a loss of 60% at least. So, we can already consider the break strength to degrade to at most 100 kilos. Polyspast doubles the force applied. This means that paracord (which is already degraded to at most 100 kilos) can take not more than 50 kilos of force applied by user before it breaks. And what is specifically awful here is that it is not a static force applied to this least strong place of the rope - you are actually applying a sliding friction. So, the outer fibers are facing a huge stretching force and inner fiber are facing a huge friction force which causes a cutting effect. So, the strength degrades even more. It is easy enough to damage paracord (it gets that glossy melt-like look in the place where friction was applied). And it is actually easy enough for an average human to break paracord by applying enough force to such tightening system. I am actually going to make a test of how much force this system can handle. I reckon, there will be visible signs of damage at around 20 kilos and it will break at around 35-40 kilos.
Another excellent video. Remember the acronym K.I.S.S., the truckers hitch is simple (no wraps to undo) and always secures tighter than the taught line hitch. The taught line hitch was designed so you can take up or loosen the line as needed, the truckers hitch is a dead stop for no slack. I have been using both for years depending on the application.
As another Eagle Scout, I was raised using the taut line hitch and would use variations so I didn’t have to pass 20 feet of line to tie it. I absolutely agree that the truckers knot is superior to getting a very tight line, but from my point of view putting up a rain tarp in a hurry the taut line is very fast. I really don’t care if it comes down fast. After 35 years of backpacking the taut line hitch has served me very well. Started backpacking in the late 1967 I guess it’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks
As a boy scout, we learned the taut line and it was sufficient for a number of years... but had it's drawbacks. Ever since learning the trucker's hitch, or the concept of it- I've never looked back. Instead of the over-hand on a bite, I do an alpine butterfly as it's less likely to collapse on itself and easier to un-tie.... tie it and forget it. Rarely have to go and re-adjust it. Always works on various types of lines (nylon, polyester, jute, sisal, braided vs non-braided and twisted)
As an old Eagle Scout, I would say of course the taut line hitch is superior, but I think you very well showed the advantage of the trucker's hitch in this configuration. To me, one of the key advantages with using the trucker's hitch is as the hitch is pulled taut, it gets closer to the anchor point, whereas the taut line hitch gets further away from the anchor point, which reduces the easy useable area (not having to untie one of the prussic loops and move it to the other side of the hitch) for the prussic/toggle system if you use it for both hitch ridgeline systems.
2 year old vid showing up in my recommended! We're making it happen I think lol keep up the good work. At least one of your vids is part of my daily ritual now. The fact that you never say "this is the best way" but rather "this is what I prefer" is so respectable and shows us that you are an open-minded leader. I've learned more from your channel in the past couple months than anywhere else on RUclips
My wife and I watch your channel all the time(we are both outdoor enthusiasts). We went camping with some friends earlier this year and I decided I wanted to take some time and research some useful knots. This, of course, led me back to your channel and it was a very informative way for me to learn. I even brought about 20ft of paracord to my current "office" job and just tied knots in my free time for a week to get the muscle memory down. The amount of joy I had when our friends started jokingly calling me "survivalist" because I was able to whip out my newfound knowledge was immense. I was able to properly utilize a multitude of knots that you taught me, including the trucker's hitch, taut-line hitch, marlin spike hitch, bowline, fisherman's knot, jam knot, and even a simple overhand knot. I know this is all basic shit for you, but man...I felt like a rock star. Thank you for all the info and please keep it coming.
I've been using the truckers hitch for my ridge line ever since you taught me how to tie and use it. Thank you for everything you teach and explain. I really enjoy watching your videos. You always have so much to offer. Please keep up the good work and thank you again.
As always, fair and accurate comparisons with reasoned descriptions. I'm with you corporal. I have five quick ridge lines set up and stored for when I need them. Use them all the time.
I use a yard arms, like navy sailing, my tarps never sag, and can be adjusted so all the water drains into a bucket. 8 x 10 tarp for camping, or 40 x 60 to cover hay stacks or larger kitchen in the woods like we did New Orleans after the hurricane, easily dropped low down during 60 mph winds,easily pull back up by single person breakfast cook so coffee is ready. Double down, and run second tarp in the other direction. See Ashley's book of knots for directions, and circuses tent designs.
My only guess is that pulling against the standing end with a prusic coUld loosen the ridge line since technically the taught line isn’t a fixed loop. so if it’s windy or something while your asleep maybe you could wake up to a loose tarp. Or just over time the pulling of a prusic could loosen it some how. I had the same thought as you but idk this is the only thing I could think of. Good question tho
Spot on, Corporal! Marlinspike Hitch and Truckers Hitch, slam dunk. BTW, I camped at QuartzFest (just south of Quartzsite, AZ)t this past January for 7 days and for the first three days we had winds of 30 mph, gusting to 50. My camping neighbor had an EZ up off the back of his pickup as his main shelter and it was taking a beating from the wind. Using my Corporals Corner knots and pebble trick, we rigged up additional guy points where there were no tie-outs or grommets and saved his EZ up. We put two pebbles in the field of the side that was taking all the wind, and another in the middle of the canopy. Then we did the same for our special event radio station. Also, on the other side of my camp, we taught a camper the taut line hitch for their families tent when the plastic guy clips broke. See, no silly clips needed, just a great hitch. I used up 100 feet of #36 bank line putting additional guys on my tent and the other shelters! All that stuff you've been teaching works. Not only that, you have a real talent for teaching it, explaining things clearly step by step. I've seen other knot videos and at the end of it was asking myself "what did he say to do?" Never said that with one of yours. Good to Go! FYI, QuartzFest is a ham radio convention in the desert around campfires instead of in a hotel with conference rooms. Every year in January. We got to 1000+ attendees this year!
I like the your trucker hitch over the tautline for its quick release but one of your complaints against the tautline is trying to attach the tarp. Why didn't the tautline have prussicks?
I think he was using the way commenters said, that prusik hitches "waste time", and he was showing that it is easier with prusik hitches. Also, if you wanted to use the tautline with prusiks, the tautline gives you less length to work with just because of how it tightens. I might be completely wrong, but that's what I assume.
I was taught a truck hitch for rigid line and taut line for guid lines. You taught me something I love is to have a rigid line setup and ready to go,the spike for quick release. Love seeing great ways of keeping your items tight. Thank you for your service.
I'm a trucker. I deliver windows to mostly job sites. I use the truckers hitch to secure windows and sliding patio doors. It has never failed me. I've even used the rapid deploy ridge line to hang birth day banners. People are amazed when seeing me do this. I tell them I learned the Corporals Corner.
I like how you demonstrate tying it. I just spent 15 minutes on another site and came away uncertain; hit this and bingo! What I’m most impressed by is how he overcame his resistance to certain comments and resolved to research an answer objectively and share the results. Admirable.
My technique is to use a butterfly loop in conjunction with a tautline hitch. The loop strung through gets you the mechanical advantage, then you already have the tautline behind it to simply pull and tighten. Plus, if you are encamped for a while and are dealing with some line sag, just pull the tautline in some more and done. No need to go through the extra step of retying the trucker's hitch. I will play around with the trucker's hitch but I don't like how you have to hold the tension while you tie the closing end. Also, not sure why you didn't add the prusik knot to the tuatline hitch demo if it was an issue.
I've watched tons of videos and your system is the best I've seen for me. Looks super fast to deploy and take down. Perfect for what I want to do and my needs
I still prefer a truckers hitch. I can get it in very very tight without much effort. It also does not slip under load. The taut line is good for guy outs.
I'm lost as to why you didn't use the prussik on both ridgelines? Without the prussik, wouldn't the truckers hitch ridge line be harder to attach the tarp to compared to the taught line hitch ridgeline?
Agreed. Trucker hitch for the main support, where you don’t want it to loosen or self adjust. taught line for bracing, where you might want the tension to be adjustable.
I've been very impressed with your system, it's elegant and there is no more paracord putting an enormous pressure on the grommets (like those plastic grommets of the USGI poncho) by coming in and out. Since I live in France and I cannot find tarred bank line, I've been experimenting with lines we use for craft or for boating, saving weight in the process. This weekend I'm demonstrating it to a friend and helping him select the best ridgeline + poncho + stakes combo. I really appreciate that you test all alternatives before reaching a conclusion.
Looking at the taught line from the cold fingers angle... there is too much fiddle farting with the knot when finger dexterity is compromised. Watching your videos changed my ridge line knot preference from a Canadian jam knot too the modified marlin spike hitch. Because, when I saw it, it was instantly recognized as a superior method of fastening (for me and the way I operate). Thanks for your squared away blocks of instruction.
Love your methodology. Have seen so many of your quality videos for quite some time now. Really appreciate your commitment to efficiency & practicality. Keep up the good work !
I have used a trucker's hitch for ridge lines and taut-line for guy lines since I was a kid (67 now). Don't see any reason to change now. Bottom line : Works for me, use whatever works for you. Thanks, Corporal.
You indicate that in the taught line hitch setup you could see potential binding or fraying issues over time. Yet that truckers hitch creates a much harsher bind on the rope and due to the stated benefit of being able to really tighten the line will end up putting the bind under far greater pressure. Now I agree with the overall method described here, your ridgeline is definitely preferable here, just pointing out a definite bias in the potential cons you alleged to in the taught line hitch.
Instead of passing the tail through the loop on the truckers hitch to tighten it, you can attach a carabiner between the loop and the tail so there is never rope on rope friction.
I’ve used taut line with prusik attachments for years and never had any issues. I’ve also spent years tinkering with line lock gadgets like the figure 9. All of the gadgets are good and do their jobs. I mainly use them on tarps for hammock camping. That said, after watching your video I started messing around with the truckers hitch, and I find it to be a superior knot for ridge lines. It replaces all the gimmicks and gadgets and saves weight. I am solidly in the Truckers Hitch camp now. Great video.
I have only been watching your Chanel for a few months so I’m not qualified to make any evaluations. However, I wanted to put up a simple tarp shelter for my 8 & 6 year old grandson because they love being out doors. I used the system of the bowline and Marlene spike and the truckers hitch and a very economical tarp and some economical stakes with a length of paracord. The system has been standing without any adjustments for 21/2 months. For a first attempt at setting up the shelter system I have been very pleased with the result and how well it holds up. Even over this amount of time it has not sagged with the trucker’s hitch.
What you said. I saw your trucker's hitch/Prusik set up in an earlier video and immediately switched from the trailing hitch system I learned in 1965. Using the Prusiks is genius, how did I survive 50+ years without knowing that? The trucker's hitch is easier to tighten the ridgeline, but it takes just as long to tie as the tautline early. The tautline has an advantage by easily tightening after the initial tie, this is important if the weather changes and the line slacks. So there is a trade-off between quick-release trucker versus extra tightening tautlineb use hitch whichever best fits the situation. But using those Prusiks, why have I never thought of that? And it's easy to put additional Prusiks on the same line (slaps forehead!).
Taught line on both ends with two presic knots for the tarp is superior in every way. You can tighten or adjust from both ends, and you have unlimited adjustment without having to undo the knot like you have to with a truckers hitch.
Efficiency is king... I use your ridgeline system because it works well and I can't find anything easier. Quick release makes for frustration free camping. I applaud you for taking an objective look at other methods, that's how you can be sure truckers hitch gives you the fastest, easiest, most efficient method of setting up a tarp or shelter. Outstanding!
Also, instead of trying to figure out where to put that slip knot for the truckers hitch, just use a third prussik knot loop for an adjustable truckers hitch loop. You can then put it exactly where you need it without thinking about it. Even less stress and longer life for your ridgeline.
Another excellent example of info-tainment... Truckers hitch is the next best thing to a ratchet straps or a come along( and has advantages over both)...the taught line or midshipmans hitch ,in my opinion, is better suited to lighter static loads (hanging a food bag in bear country) rather than a highly tensioned ridgeline and seems to work better with natural fibers or tarred line. Nylons, poly or newer wonder fibers are very slippery, I find it tends to slip over time. It's popularity can be attributed to the boy scouts of America.... keep up the good work.
The second way you did that with the Trucker's Hitch and my opinion also is the best way. Especially when you went from a squared tarp to the plow point. I use the Trucker's Hitch in a whole lot of things that I do because it's so much easier just to pop it Loose plus I also put a toggle in my Loop just in case it happens to get jerked out while walking around camp and the tent. Those prusik hitches work great for a lot of things. Thanks for the lesson and have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry!
A short stick(~24") can be used between the two lines at the tree for tightening the ridge line with either hitch.Turn the stick which twists the two lines together,shortening the ridge line to make it taut.Tie a cord around the tree to keep the stick from rotating and loosening the ridge line. A short piece of cordage can be passed through the tarp grommet and looped around the ridge line.Pull the ridge line loop through the tarp grommet and insert the toggle to hold the tarp and pull the short cordage free. Thanks for the videos! :)
I use the taut line for permanently attached lines where the length of the line needed from site to site will be about the same. The tension lines that I leave in place on my tarp and rain fly all have taut lines on them for ease and speed of setup, break down and adjustment. For a ridge line. That will always be a truckers hitch until someone shows me a hitch that can get better tension. The prusik knot is superior to the inline toggle in every way.
There is a small improvement to the truckers hitch that you might like. You show making a single twist, laying it over and pulling a bight through, forming what we all know as a slipknot, and then the rest of the pulley system we know as the truckers hitch. When pulled very tight, those slipknots can become hard to get out of the line. Try twisting it twice or three times then pulling the bight through to make your slipknot, and proceed as normal. You will find that no matter how tight you pull the system, the slipknot will just shake out when you take it apart.
what each person does is fine if it works for them. personally, I use a trucker's hitch for ridgelines, and taut line hitch for the guy lines. I have a lot of time in the dirt. I grew up hiking, hunting and learning and practicing fieldcraft skills with my father and grandfather, then I spent 10 years as a grunt in the ARMY, and have tried to teach fieldcraft to my sons as well. I know I do not know everything, but I know what works for me.
Taut-line hitch for guy lines, I can understand. Tie 'em once and then just leave the loops in the end of the lines ready to throw over the top of the pegs and cinch them taut. I use trucker's hitch for ridgelines and tying down anything I don't want falling off the back of a trailer
corporal, i agree, for a ridgeline, truckers hitch is hands down better. it's not debatable, mechanical advantage, as you have always said. that said, there is no reason you can't use prussik's on a taut line ridgeline. taut line is still a great hitch, especially for staking out guy lines. its much easier to make incremental adjustments due to wind, rain, etc, on lines that don't need the strength of a ridgeline. i watch all your vid's, can't believe i wasn't a subscriber. until now. keep up the good work...
Great video! I’ve been enjoying each and every one of them. I’ve been using a bowline or figure eight with a tent stake along with a truckers hitch at the other end for to create a very taught ridge-line for my tarps for a long time. Your addition of the two, what I call a dropper knots, makes your ridge-line system very fast, very efficient and elegant, and is something I never thought of doing. It’s hard for me to believe that anyone with an knot tying experience would think that using taught line hitches would be faster or better. I think you hit the nail on the head when you expressed the idea that the people who think that just don’t have much knowledge or experience in tying knots.
I'd too use a trucker's if I really need to crank and the application doesn't require adjustments. Separately, I prefer the Farrimond friction hitch over the taut line. Check it out if you haven't heard of it...it's a friction hitch that's actually quick release and I surmise is grippier than a taut line as it wraps over four times instead of three (it's tied similar to a (partial) prusik).
Your videos are revolutionizing my camping set up. I have removed so much unnecessary stuff it's untrue! I'm actually looking at a smaller pack now as my current one is getting too big. Thank you for all the tips!
Though I'm just learning these things, now after some practice, I see the elegant qualities inherent in the Trucker's Hitch and the quick deploy ridgeline. Corporal, you're a Guru, Brother! This knowledge is priceless, IMHO!!
I created a rapid ridge line as you’ve instructed here and in previous videos. The taut line is more complicated than necessary especially if faced with an emergent situation.
I’m glad to see that you’ve done well on RUclips. You worked hard at this and now you get to enjoy teaching survival and earning a living doing it. When you love your job you never work a day. Congratulations at your success on RUclips. You deserve a job well done Brother!!!
@@recall5811 I use the truckers hitch as well. Far superior. But the point of using the prusiks as Bowline Daddy suggested would be to have an apples to apples comparison as you went through the trouble and demonstrated both "systems" while giving the pros and cons of both systems.
i use the same method as yourself, only using the tautline knot for attaching the corners to trees or pegs for the sides of the tarp. Can almost play a tune on the line once cinched up tight using the truckers knot.
Definitely worth practicing all of the 5 minutes it takes to learn the Truckers Hitch. I like both for different reasons but I agree with the Corporal. Thank you.
Old video, (and yes I'm not subscribed but i did like!) so you might not see this. You make good points about quick release, but i have no idea why you didn't use the prussik knots on the taught line hitch. using the bight and grommet seems weirdly complicated and has the problems you mentioned. The real advantage of the trucker's hitch is the mechanical advantage you get in the tightening step. That allows you a much easier time getting a very taught rope. Thanks for the video!
One thing that addresses one of your concerns with the taught line hitch is tying some toggles onto your Ridge line with your prussek knot as you did with the truckers hitch. This allows you to save your Ridge line from the possible fraying problem and increases your ease of setup without having to slacken your Ridge line multiple times. I do love me some truckers hitch though! I use it regularly to tie stuff down on my sailboat.
Went out kayak camping last weekend, my 10x12 tarp was set using your exact quick deploy ridgeline and it withstood 60mph winds. Tornado sirens in distance. One hell of a weekend!
I just tried both ways in my garage between two shelf uprights for my own experience. It's a no-brainer. The trucker's hitch is far superior to the taut line hitch for ridge lines. It's faster and easier to tie, you can get it a LOT tighter, it's quick-release, AND you can put a stick in the quick-release bight to prevent accidental release, AND if you do have to tighten it later for some reason, it's a simple act to pull the release, re-stretch and remake the bight. Nicely done, Corporal. Love your concise, clear videos. I've learned a ton from watching you. Thank you!
Hi Corporal. First, using Prusik is definitely better than the toggles. Then, here some things that you missed while comparing the knots - just my 2 cents. The tightening - trucker can give you better tightening for sure but tautline is named like that for a reason. you can actually pull the rope around the tree so it is as tight as you like and then tie the knot. It is one of those knots that can be tied while the standing end is under tension. So you pull the working end around the tree as hard as you like so it is as tight as you like. Then you do the two loops around the standing end. This locks the knot and keeps the line tight. The final half hitch just locks it. Very nice comparison though and thank you for the effort! Have a good day.
I didn't miss anything. the truckers hitch has a mechanical advantage and the tautline never will no matter what you do to it. the video was a response to a constant question as to why some top youtubers do this. Thanks for watching
I built a tarp tent and campfire in the garden today and made camp bread and Nutella for my best friends 3 yr old boy. All in the rain! What a great day. And I used the taught line knot I learnt in scouts! I’ll try this system next time. 😂
Great video. First, let me say that I am a huge fan of the trucker's hitch. The is no better way to really cinch down a load, or apply tension when you don't have ratchet straps or other mechanical devices. However, one must be aware that the trucker's hitch does apply a great deal of active friction in lieu of a block and tackle pulley. That friction shortens the lifespan of the rope or cordage. However, one advantage of the use of tautline hitch on ridgeline is that tautline hitches do not require as much cordage as truckers hitch. The trucker's hitch actually requires more cordage to execute the entire ridgeline. Another advantage is that the tautline hitch doesn't require a toggle or tent stake that the marlin spike. Further, the argument about 'pulling fifty feet of cordage through the knot' to reach the working end is also bogus because the ENTIRE tautline hitch may be tied with a bight which makes it ENTIRELY quick release. The awkwardness of pinching a bight of the ridgeline through grommets and around toggles would easily be solved by using the same prussik loops approach with the tautlines as that used with the truckers hitch. Finally, the concern over undue wear on the ridgeline (by pinching through grommets and around toggles) is disingenuous because A) you can use the prussik loop approach, and B) the use of truckers hitch is actually quite damaging to cordage especially compared with tautline hitch.
I love both knots for different reasons. My son is in scouts and we spend a lot of time outdoors using knots. For a ridgeline a truckers hitch can't be beat, but we do a double pass through the loop so it locks itself down. My son is small and cannot pinch & hold the line before tying a slippery half hitch. We like to use the taught line when adjusting tension for our tarps out to tent stakes.
I just upgraded my ridge line to lash-it with dutchgear Dutch hook and wasp. I use soft shackles with a prusik knot to secure the tarp. I have the ability to switch back to rope only but I like the convenience of the titanium dutchgear hardware. Also got a couple titanium toggles if I need them. Very small and lightweight. Your methods(truckers hitch) are more than adequate though and work quite well. I used your method until recently. I also keep a 25’ piece of 7/64th Amsteel with a loop on one end handy for when I want to throw up a strong ridge line with your method. Again with soft shackles though. The only thing bad about the hollow core rope like Zing-it, Lash-it and Amsteel is that is doesn’t take traditional knots well. It requires a tool to tie the knots. On other hand it allows you to make a whoopie sling style ridge line and other cool knots. BTW, when I do a truckers hitch I do the self tightening version. That is awesome! Really appreciate your Channel.
My father was a truck driver and for many years before the advent of ratchet straps and used rope to secure primarily large loads of USG sheetrock and the huge rolls of paper used in the manufacture of it. They always used what you refer to as a trucker's hitch. Truck drivers ( they did not call themselves truckers back then) always called it a " dutchman ". No other knot can provide the tensioning force that this knot can. Why? Because the first loop that you make in reality acts as a pulley and provides mechanical advantage. When tying the knot it is easily pinched off at the first loop with thumb and forefinger of one hand even when under great strain while the other hand completes the slip knot. This was not even a contest! Regards, Cpl. DJD USMC '67
I completely agree on going with a truckers hitch and Prusik. Been doing that for years. However I’m confused as to why you didn’t use prusik loops on the taught line demonstration.
He mentioned earlier that the demo was in response to a specific set up (taught line and two sticks) he was only using what a poster had said was better.
Just stumbled across your video, I personally use the knots you preferred. I have questions but will check your channel out before being a broken record. Thanks for posting.
It's really personal preference. But that military mind set tells us if we gotta go, we gotta go. Being an army vet I understand that. I use the truckers knot. Non vets are thinking they have all the time in world. Veterans understand get it down and get out. It could cost accomplishment of the mission or even life's if you farting around with a knot.
I've been doing a quick release taught line. I find that a triple sinche point holds it's weights worth where single and double need adjustment after a simple breeze. Gonna check into the truckers hitch soon though and see it it'll serve the function I'm attempting for
Good to see that you listen to others' points of view. Then give them the benefit of the doubt, and try their methods. Rather than outright dismissing them. It is a good change of pace.
Thank you for another excellent video. Another trick for the taught line hitch ridge line is to just put the paracord through the tarp loops or grommets/tabs, then tie a Prusik from the ridgeline to the tarp grommet/tab. Use the Prusik to tighten the tarp by pulling it directly from the grommet/tab down the ridgeline; therefore eliminating the loop and toggle through the grommet/tab.
I use truckers hitch for ridge line and taught-line for various other applications. Can’t go wrong with the truckers hitch...mainly for the ability to get that line tight and solid. We all know tarps catch wind and lines tend to loosen up and lose integrity. That truckers hitch is invaluable for that reason alone. As for the prussic...that is also the more brilliant option bc when your tarp grommets start to rip holes in the tarp (and they will), you can fashion the prussic in such a way (perhaps with a clove hitch) to use a small stone that is encased by the tarp material in place of grommet failure. Failing to prepare means preparing to fail. Think ahead and consider all variables
One disadvantage of the taut-line hitch when compared to the trucker's hitch that you didn't mention,but is obvious when watching the video, is that as you tighten the taut-line then length of rope usable for the ridge line gets smaller
Or, you know, you could just tighten the line before tying the hitch in either case. It's a straight line from tree A to tree B. It's not complicated, people. Lock the line around tree A, walk the line to tree B, wrap around it, pull the free end of the line tight, make a hitch with enough room to pull it taut, and lock it off. Depending on which hitch you choose dictates how much room you ought to leave on either side of the hitch, as obviously they pull in different directions. Taut line hitch? Tie the hitch right up to the bark and pull the knot towards the center of the line to make it taut. If you need to create a "V" for your hammock suspension to hang through, obviously you'd tie the hitch further towards the center. The good thing is you can adjust it if you don't land the spacing perfectly. Wow! What a concept! Trucker's hitch? Tie it further into the center so there's room to pull the knot up to the tree. No shit, right? Seriously, why does this even need to be debated?
@@NostalgicLink as people listen to others and are not trying to think themselves. Someone stated that truckers is easier when you have one hand left only as of the injury. Really, someone is really thinking they would want to tweaks with knots being one handed and feeling pain. Yes, various knots help to do things in a bit more neat and quick way, but - tying a rope between two trees and such a discussion? And I find it just hilarious that some people really need "huge tension" on 550 paracord (550 lbs breaking strength). This truckers hitch polyspast type system has so many factors which weakens the rope that 550 paracord literally degrades to 100 paracord in this system. Probably, a lot of guys are actually not tying the ridgeline to place 10x10 feet 1 pound weight tarp on it, but are going to use it to shoot arrows in their enemies :D
Speaking as an artist, it really helps illustrate the knots by using that bright green line against the contrasting brown leaves on the ground and using the 2 tent stakes for trees. Well explained video.
Being a Scoutmaster we teach the boys to use a two half hitch and taut line hitch for a ridge line. Presidents day weekend we went on a cold weather trip and I showed the guys your set up. They look at me as if it was magic especially when we had to break camp, just a pull on the tag end or pull out the marlin spike all with gloves on and it came apart. It held up and didn't sag even when it snowed that night. They need to learn the way their books say for rank advancement, but I like to show them some of your set ups. They work for me. Thanks.
The taut line can be pulled pretty tight by pulling on the rope working end after putting it around the anchor (tree or stake). The taut line hitch got its name because it can be tied onto a taut standing line.
Love your ridge-line system; I've been using truckers-hitch with prusik knot loop's for a horse high-line system for years. You can't beat that system. I sometimes add a 3ft piece of large diameter rubber surgical tubing attached at one end of the ridge-line (not in-line with the ridge-line) that pulls the ridge-line up and away from the ground at an angle (attach it to an adjacent tree via a rope). That makes the entire ridge-line act like a long spring-loaded bungie cord. The horse can pull down on the ridge-line to feed off of the ground, but as soon as he lifts his head, the ridge-line comes back up to it's original position. This eliminates horses getting tangles in the ridge-line. Semper Fi
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Ok this time I'm sure you were out off Dugas rd lol I trap raccoon in that exact place and hunt in the whole area all the time.
I use the truckers hitch and improvised marlin spike hitch all the time for all kinds of applications which I learned from you. Thank you for all the great information you provide. Love your videos and your channel keep up the good work! Maybe I'll run into you out there sometime stay safe brother.
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I've always done the trucker's hitch for a ridge line. I do use taught line hitch for tightening up the ends of a tarp from tent stakes. You can't get your ridge line tight enough using taught line hitch because you can't really crank on it like you mentioned.
My son is a British army cadet I told him your system but we use three Prusik knots with very light weight aluminium carabiners
his Sargent was so impressed with his overall performance and set up instead of the usual heavy and bulky elastic bungees that asked my son where he got his awesome idea from and he took FULL CREDIT!! , the little brow nose is now a Lance Corporal Thank you Corporal!!
Fantastic
I, too, am all for the trucker's hitch. However, I think a more objective comparison would have been the taut line hitch vs purely the trucker's hitch, NOT the taut line hitch vs the trucker's hitch + prusik loops. I'm just saying, it became a bit too much like apples and oranges for me...and I have often wondered about people's preferences (possible advantages) between the two. A fair head-to-head would be better...including just putting the prusik loops on the taut line hitch.
a taut line hitch gives you no mechanical advantage, the trucker's hitch gives a two-to-one advantage. So, you're able to exert greater pressure on the ridge line with the trucker's hitch. That two-to-one advantage is why truckers are so fond of the hitch, it allows loads to be better secured.
Your videos are outstanding. As a former USAF lineman I know knots yet one can always learn from a Marine. Keep them coming.
What does a lineman do, if I may ask? Sounds like a knot expert but I'm guessing it's something more airplane-ey
Guys, just show a little courtesy for his way of teaching before criticizing. Actually try what he is showing and you just might learn something. I have been tying knots before this man was conceived and can tell you what he shows us has real practical value. If you think you know it all, you leave yourself no room to grow or improve!!
I’ve watched countless videos and could never figure out how to make this simple hitch, others make it too complicated or do not explain it properly, thank you for this great lesson. Tried it once in my kitchen by using two different door knobs for the support and got it done on the 1st try. Thanks!
You should check out The Prepared channel's version, that lady explains it so well and gives a few extra great tips like a simple loop to secure the truckers hitch, tightening the toggles by rolling them, and an awesome quick bowline. Trust me she is awesome
I like them both. Pitch multiple geometries for different contingencies and use different knots as needed. No controversy in my camp. Another informative vid - Thanks.
I followed your logic for the first time setting up a ridge line and tarp and my wife was so impressed. Thanks for making me look good.
AS A MATTER OF FACT SIR!!!!!! ……………… I didn’t know any knots before I found your channel. Your channel inspired me to go out and give hiking, camping and bushcraft a try. I was always interested but I had no training and didn’t know where to start. I’m still a beginner but everything I learn I can now teach to my kids. Your content is awesome keep up the good work and thank you for your service.
I’ve been using your ridge line technique for the past year now and your knot videos have improved my camping experience. No longer spending time undoing crappy tie downs. Quick release and I’m ready to roll.
Taut-line is easily made quick release. Same as you do when you tie your lacers.
While I agree the truckie is the superior of the two, it's sort of a false equivalency here. You haven't compared them fairly when you add Prusik loops to only one of the two models.
I think the argument was that his use of truckie and prusiks is too complicated and all you need is taut line hitch with 2 sticks. But i agree, the comparison is a bit unfair in the bigger picture.
This is why I like your channel. You do what you know, and try other suggestions, instead of insinuating youre the know all end all. I appreciate your insight and your time, to teach us young bucks how to survive and thrive. Your channel is relaxing to watch after a full day of BS and PC culture at work etc. Respect and thank you corporal!
Your Ridgeline system is outstanding. This video shows how much thought went into this system. I always carry one such Ridgeline with me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Personally, I feel I can get a much tighter ridge line with a trucker’s hitch. I roll with the CC method. 👍
Yep 100% agree
Truckers hitch is a good knot, for sure. However, it seemed that the downsides you had with the taut line hitch would be largely avoided if you added prussic loops like you had on your other setup. Or, if you simply rotate the toggles to move/tighten/loosen the tarp... Yes, you can get the truckers hitch line tighter because of leverage, but nearly everything else, including the plow point shelter, is also possible with the taut line.
Use what you know, either can be used to quickly setup a tarp.
One thing i've noticed is that tightening the taut-line actually pulls the cord around whole back end of the tree, which can be bad for the cord if you have one with rough flakey bark like the one you're sitting in front of in this video. The trucker's hitch in comparison has the slack walked around the tree then tightened and tied off at the side.
Trackers hitch and similar polyspast systems with no blocks cause much more damage to the rope than simply rubbing it over the tree with similar force applied.
Paracord 550 has 250 kilos (550 pounds) break strength.
In CCs system you have a joint of two ropes each of which is bent in a sharp angle (almost 180 degrees) which means that outer rope fibers are already stretched more than the inner ones (practically, inner ones are almost not working and all the force is applied to outer ones). This bend causes a huge loss of the rope strength in specific bend place. I could find exact numbers, but considering a simple figure eight causes a loss of 40-45% of strengths, such a sharp bend should probably cause a loss of 60% at least. So, we can already consider the break strength to degrade to at most 100 kilos.
Polyspast doubles the force applied. This means that paracord (which is already degraded to at most 100 kilos) can take not more than 50 kilos of force applied by user before it breaks.
And what is specifically awful here is that it is not a static force applied to this least strong place of the rope - you are actually applying a sliding friction. So, the outer fibers are facing a huge stretching force and inner fiber are facing a huge friction force which causes a cutting effect. So, the strength degrades even more.
It is easy enough to damage paracord (it gets that glossy melt-like look in the place where friction was applied). And it is actually easy enough for an average human to break paracord by applying enough force to such tightening system.
I am actually going to make a test of how much force this system can handle. I reckon, there will be visible signs of damage at around 20 kilos and it will break at around 35-40 kilos.
Another excellent video. Remember the acronym K.I.S.S., the truckers hitch is simple (no wraps to undo) and always secures tighter than the taught line hitch. The taught line hitch was designed so you can take up or loosen the line as needed, the truckers hitch is a dead stop for no slack. I have been using both for years depending on the application.
As another Eagle Scout, I was raised using the taut line hitch and would use variations so I didn’t have to pass 20 feet of line to tie it. I absolutely agree that the truckers knot is superior to getting a very tight line, but from my point of view putting up a rain tarp in a hurry the taut line is very fast. I really don’t care if it comes down fast.
After 35 years of backpacking the taut line hitch has served me very well. Started backpacking in the late 1967
I guess it’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks
As a boy scout, we learned the taut line and it was sufficient for a number of years... but had it's drawbacks. Ever since learning the trucker's hitch, or the concept of it- I've never looked back. Instead of the over-hand on a bite, I do an alpine butterfly as it's less likely to collapse on itself and easier to un-tie.... tie it and forget it. Rarely have to go and re-adjust it. Always works on various types of lines (nylon, polyester, jute, sisal, braided vs non-braided and twisted)
As an old Eagle Scout, I would say of course the taut line hitch is superior, but I think you very well showed the advantage of the trucker's hitch in this configuration. To me, one of the key advantages with using the trucker's hitch is as the hitch is pulled taut, it gets closer to the anchor point, whereas the taut line hitch gets further away from the anchor point, which reduces the easy useable area (not having to untie one of the prussic loops and move it to the other side of the hitch) for the prussic/toggle system if you use it for both hitch ridgeline systems.
2 year old vid showing up in my recommended! We're making it happen I think lol keep up the good work. At least one of your vids is part of my daily ritual now. The fact that you never say "this is the best way" but rather "this is what I prefer" is so respectable and shows us that you are an open-minded leader. I've learned more from your channel in the past couple months than anywhere else on RUclips
My wife and I watch your channel all the time(we are both outdoor enthusiasts). We went camping with some friends earlier this year and I decided I wanted to take some time and research some useful knots. This, of course, led me back to your channel and it was a very informative way for me to learn. I even brought about 20ft of paracord to my current "office" job and just tied knots in my free time for a week to get the muscle memory down.
The amount of joy I had when our friends started jokingly calling me "survivalist" because I was able to whip out my newfound knowledge was immense. I was able to properly utilize a multitude of knots that you taught me, including the trucker's hitch, taut-line hitch, marlin spike hitch, bowline, fisherman's knot, jam knot, and even a simple overhand knot. I know this is all basic shit for you, but man...I felt like a rock star. Thank you for all the info and please keep it coming.
I've been using the truckers hitch for my ridge line ever since you taught me how to tie and use it. Thank you for everything you teach and explain. I really enjoy watching your videos. You always have so much to offer. Please keep up the good work and thank you again.
As always, fair and accurate comparisons with reasoned descriptions. I'm with you corporal. I have five quick ridge lines set up and stored for when I need them. Use them all the time.
I use a yard arms, like navy sailing, my tarps never sag, and can be adjusted so all the water drains into a bucket. 8 x 10 tarp for camping, or 40 x 60 to cover hay stacks or larger kitchen in the woods like we did New Orleans after the hurricane, easily dropped low down during 60 mph winds,easily pull back up by single person breakfast cook so coffee is ready.
Double down, and run second tarp in the other direction.
See Ashley's book of knots for directions, and circuses tent designs.
So why didn't you use the Prusik knots with the first set up ? You wouldn't have had to loosen it.
My only guess is that pulling against the standing end with a prusic coUld loosen the ridge line since technically the taught line isn’t a fixed loop. so if it’s windy or something while your asleep maybe you could wake up to a loose tarp. Or just over time the pulling of a prusic could loosen it some how. I had the same thought as you but idk this is the only thing I could think of. Good question tho
He said in the video he keeps being told all you need is a tautline and two sticks. So that's what he used
Spot on, Corporal! Marlinspike Hitch and Truckers Hitch, slam dunk. BTW, I camped at QuartzFest (just south of Quartzsite, AZ)t this past January for 7 days and for the first three days we had winds of 30 mph, gusting to 50. My camping neighbor had an EZ up off the back of his pickup as his main shelter and it was taking a beating from the wind. Using my Corporals Corner knots and pebble trick, we rigged up additional guy points where there were no tie-outs or grommets and saved his EZ up. We put two pebbles in the field of the side that was taking all the wind, and another in the middle of the canopy. Then we did the same for our special event radio station. Also, on the other side of my camp, we taught a camper the taut line hitch for their families tent when the plastic guy clips broke. See, no silly clips needed, just a great hitch. I used up 100 feet of #36 bank line putting additional guys on my tent and the other shelters! All that stuff you've been teaching works. Not only that, you have a real talent for teaching it, explaining things clearly step by step. I've seen other knot videos and at the end of it was asking myself "what did he say to do?" Never said that with one of yours. Good to Go! FYI, QuartzFest is a ham radio convention in the desert around campfires instead of in a hotel with conference rooms. Every year in January. We got to 1000+ attendees this year!
Wow! Never heard of this... wish I knew about it, I wudda went! I live by Phx.
I like the your trucker hitch over the tautline for its quick release but one of your complaints against the tautline is trying to attach the tarp. Why didn't the tautline have prussicks?
I think he was using the way commenters said, that prusik hitches "waste time", and he was showing that it is easier with prusik hitches. Also, if you wanted to use the tautline with prusiks, the tautline gives you less length to work with just because of how it tightens. I might be completely wrong, but that's what I assume.
Rewatch the video. The Corporal spells out ALL the benefits and concerns.
There is no issues with having quick release in taut-line - just put a loop in the outer part, not just an open end.
I was taught a truck hitch for rigid line and taut line for guid lines. You taught me something I love is to have a rigid line setup and ready to go,the spike for quick release. Love seeing great ways of keeping your items tight. Thank you for your service.
I'm a trucker. I deliver windows to mostly job sites. I use the truckers hitch to secure windows and sliding patio doors. It has never failed me. I've even used the rapid deploy ridge line to hang birth day banners. People are amazed when seeing me do this. I tell them I learned the Corporals Corner.
I like how you demonstrate tying it. I just spent 15 minutes on another site and came away uncertain; hit this and bingo! What I’m most impressed by is how he overcame his resistance to certain comments and resolved to research an answer objectively and share the results. Admirable.
My technique is to use a butterfly loop in conjunction with a tautline hitch. The loop strung through gets you the mechanical advantage, then you already have the tautline behind it to simply pull and tighten. Plus, if you are encamped for a while and are dealing with some line sag, just pull the tautline in some more and done. No need to go through the extra step of retying the trucker's hitch. I will play around with the trucker's hitch but I don't like how you have to hold the tension while you tie the closing end. Also, not sure why you didn't add the prusik knot to the tuatline hitch demo if it was an issue.
Great comment -- your method works well for tightening the ridgeline anytime without having to retie anything!
I've watched tons of videos and your system is the best I've seen for me. Looks super fast to deploy and take down. Perfect for what I want to do and my needs
I still prefer a truckers hitch. I can get it in very very tight without much effort. It also does not slip under load. The taut line is good for guy outs.
Good instruction. That’s the way I’ve done it for years. It just made sense if I was using a tarp to make a roof.
I'm lost as to why you didn't use the prussik on both ridgelines? Without the prussik, wouldn't the truckers hitch ridge line be harder to attach the tarp to compared to the taught line hitch ridgeline?
Agreed. Trucker hitch for the main support, where you don’t want it to loosen or self adjust. taught line for bracing, where you might want the tension to be adjustable.
My go to method is truckers hitch and prusics to attach the tarp so I agree 100% with you
I've been very impressed with your system, it's elegant and there is no more paracord putting an enormous pressure on the grommets (like those plastic grommets of the USGI poncho) by coming in and out. Since I live in France and I cannot find tarred bank line, I've been experimenting with lines we use for craft or for boating, saving weight in the process. This weekend I'm demonstrating it to a friend and helping him select the best ridgeline + poncho + stakes combo.
I really appreciate that you test all alternatives before reaching a conclusion.
Looking at the taught line from the cold fingers angle... there is too much fiddle farting with the knot when finger dexterity is compromised.
Watching your videos changed my ridge line knot preference from a Canadian jam knot too the modified marlin spike hitch. Because, when I saw it, it was instantly recognized as a superior method of fastening (for me and the way I operate).
Thanks for your squared away blocks of instruction.
Love your methodology. Have seen so many of your quality videos for quite some time now. Really appreciate your commitment to efficiency & practicality. Keep up the good work !
I have used a trucker's hitch for ridge lines and taut-line for guy lines since I was a kid (67 now). Don't see any reason to change now. Bottom line : Works for me, use whatever works for you. Thanks, Corporal.
You indicate that in the taught line hitch setup you could see potential binding or fraying issues over time. Yet that truckers hitch creates a much harsher bind on the rope and due to the stated benefit of being able to really tighten the line will end up putting the bind under far greater pressure. Now I agree with the overall method described here, your ridgeline is definitely preferable here, just pointing out a definite bias in the potential cons you alleged to in the taught line hitch.
Instead of passing the tail through the loop on the truckers hitch to tighten it, you can attach a carabiner between the loop and the tail so there is never rope on rope friction.
I’ve used taut line with prusik attachments for years and never had any issues. I’ve also spent years tinkering with line lock gadgets like the figure 9. All of the gadgets are good and do their jobs. I mainly use them on tarps for hammock camping. That said, after watching your video I started messing around with the truckers hitch, and I find it to be a superior knot for ridge lines. It replaces all the gimmicks and gadgets and saves weight. I am solidly in the Truckers Hitch camp now. Great video.
As always, 100% sense talked on this channel. That is why I keep coming back here. Thanks Shawn, you are a great source of outdoors information.
I have only been watching your Chanel for a few months so I’m not qualified to make any evaluations. However, I wanted to put up a simple tarp shelter for my 8 & 6 year old grandson because they love being out doors. I used the system of the bowline and Marlene spike and the truckers hitch and a very economical tarp and some economical stakes with a length of paracord. The system has been standing without any adjustments for 21/2 months. For a first attempt at setting up the shelter system I have been very pleased with the result and how well it holds up. Even over this amount of time it has not sagged with the trucker’s hitch.
What you said. I saw your trucker's hitch/Prusik set up in an earlier video and immediately switched from the trailing hitch system I learned in 1965.
Using the Prusiks is genius, how did I survive 50+ years without knowing that? The trucker's hitch is easier to tighten the ridgeline, but it takes just as long to tie as the tautline early. The tautline has an advantage by easily tightening after the initial tie, this is important if the weather changes and the line slacks. So there is a trade-off between quick-release trucker versus extra tightening tautlineb use hitch whichever best fits the situation.
But using those Prusiks, why have I never thought of that? And it's easy to put additional Prusiks on the same line (slaps forehead!).
Taught line on both ends with two presic knots for the tarp is superior in every way. You can tighten or adjust from both ends, and you have unlimited adjustment without having to undo the knot like you have to with a truckers hitch.
Efficiency is king... I use your ridgeline system because it works well and I can't find anything easier. Quick release makes for frustration free camping.
I applaud you for taking an objective look at other methods, that's how you can be sure truckers hitch gives you the fastest, easiest, most efficient method of setting up a tarp or shelter. Outstanding!
Also, instead of trying to figure out where to put that slip knot for the truckers hitch, just use a third prussik knot loop for an adjustable truckers hitch loop. You can then put it exactly where you need it without thinking about it. Even less stress and longer life for your ridgeline.
Brilliant idea! Do you know from the top of your head weather a thinner dimension on the Prussia knot loop allows for Auto locking trucker's Hitch?
Another excellent example of info-tainment... Truckers hitch is the next best thing to a ratchet straps or a come along( and has advantages over both)...the taught line or midshipmans hitch ,in my opinion, is better suited to lighter static loads (hanging a food bag in bear country) rather than a highly tensioned ridgeline and seems to work better with natural fibers or tarred line. Nylons, poly or newer wonder fibers are very slippery, I find it tends to slip over time. It's popularity can be attributed to the boy scouts of America.... keep up the good work.
The second way you did that with the Trucker's Hitch and my opinion also is the best way. Especially when you went from a squared tarp to the plow point. I use the Trucker's Hitch in a whole lot of things that I do because it's so much easier just to pop it Loose plus I also put a toggle in my Loop just in case it happens to get jerked out while walking around camp and the tent. Those prusik hitches work great for a lot of things. Thanks for the lesson and have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry!
A short stick(~24") can be used between the two lines at the tree for tightening the ridge line with either hitch.Turn the stick which twists the two lines together,shortening the ridge line to make it taut.Tie a cord around the tree to keep the stick from rotating and loosening the ridge line.
A short piece of cordage can be passed through the tarp grommet and looped around the ridge line.Pull the ridge line loop through the tarp grommet and insert the toggle to hold the tarp and pull the short cordage free.
Thanks for the videos! :)
I use the taut line for permanently attached lines where the length of the line needed from site to site will be about the same. The tension lines that I leave in place on my tarp and rain fly all have taut lines on them for ease and speed of setup, break down and adjustment.
For a ridge line. That will always be a truckers hitch until someone shows me a hitch that can get better tension.
The prusik knot is superior to the inline toggle in every way.
There is a small improvement to the truckers hitch that you might like. You show making a single twist, laying it over and pulling a bight through, forming what we all know as a slipknot, and then the rest of the pulley system we know as the truckers hitch. When pulled very tight, those slipknots can become hard to get out of the line. Try twisting it twice or three times then pulling the bight through to make your slipknot, and proceed as normal. You will find that no matter how tight you pull the system, the slipknot will just shake out when you take it apart.
what each person does is fine if it works for them. personally, I use a trucker's hitch for ridgelines, and taut line hitch for the guy lines. I have a lot of time in the dirt. I grew up hiking, hunting and learning and practicing fieldcraft skills with my father and grandfather, then I spent 10 years as a grunt in the ARMY, and have tried to teach fieldcraft to my sons as well. I know I do not know everything, but I know what works for me.
Taut-line hitch for guy lines, I can understand. Tie 'em once and then just leave the loops in the end of the lines ready to throw over the top of the pegs and cinch them taut. I use trucker's hitch for ridgelines and tying down anything I don't want falling off the back of a trailer
Former Marine, 1971. Great to have your refresher courses. Thanks & Godspeed.
corporal, i agree, for a ridgeline, truckers hitch is hands down better. it's not debatable, mechanical advantage, as you have always said. that said, there is no reason you can't use prussik's on a taut line ridgeline. taut line is still a great hitch, especially for staking out guy lines. its much easier to make incremental adjustments due to wind, rain, etc, on lines that don't need the strength of a ridgeline.
i watch all your vid's, can't believe i wasn't a subscriber. until now. keep up the good work...
truckers: tighter, more secure
taut line: finely adjustable
i agree, other than that they are pretty similar
Great video! I’ve been enjoying each and every one of them. I’ve been using a bowline or figure eight with a tent stake along with a truckers hitch at the other end for to create a very taught ridge-line for my tarps for a long time. Your addition of the two, what I call a dropper knots, makes your ridge-line system very fast, very efficient and elegant, and is something I never thought of doing. It’s hard for me to believe that anyone with an knot tying experience would think that using taught line hitches would be faster or better. I think you hit the nail on the head when you expressed the idea that the people who think that just don’t have much knowledge or experience in tying knots.
I'd too use a trucker's if I really need to crank and the application doesn't require adjustments. Separately, I prefer the Farrimond friction hitch over the taut line. Check it out if you haven't heard of it...it's a friction hitch that's actually quick release and I surmise is grippier than a taut line as it wraps over four times instead of three (it's tied similar to a (partial) prusik).
Your videos are revolutionizing my camping set up. I have removed so much unnecessary stuff it's untrue! I'm actually looking at a smaller pack now as my current one is getting too big. Thank you for all the tips!
Though I'm just learning these things, now after some practice, I see the elegant qualities inherent in the Trucker's Hitch and the quick deploy ridgeline. Corporal, you're a Guru, Brother! This knowledge is priceless, IMHO!!
I switched to your quick deploy ridgeline set up a while ago and it works great. I only use the taut line when I need to guy out my tarp.
I created a rapid ridge line as you’ve instructed here and in previous videos. The taut line is more complicated than necessary especially if faced with an emergent situation.
I’m glad to see that you’ve done well on RUclips. You worked hard at this and now you get to enjoy teaching survival and earning a living doing it. When you love your job you never work a day. Congratulations at your success on RUclips. You deserve a job well done Brother!!!
Tbh you could've used the prusiks with the taut hitch as well. But loved the truckers hitch a lot thanks for explaining it
why use prusiks on an inferior hitch with no mechanical advantage and just keep tightening it? Thanks for watching
@@recall5811 I use the truckers hitch as well. Far superior. But the point of using the prusiks as Bowline Daddy suggested would be to have an apples to apples comparison as you went through the trouble and demonstrated both "systems" while giving the pros and cons of both systems.
Absolutely 💯 right here . He's not to open minded here .
After watching your quick setup I switched to the truckers hitch. Love it. Thx
i use the same method as yourself, only using the tautline knot for attaching the corners to trees or pegs for the sides of the tarp. Can almost play a tune on the line once cinched up tight using the truckers knot.
Definitely worth practicing all of the 5 minutes it takes to learn the Truckers Hitch. I like both for different reasons but I agree with the Corporal. Thank you.
Old video, (and yes I'm not subscribed but i did like!) so you might not see this.
You make good points about quick release, but i have no idea why you didn't use the prussik knots on the taught line hitch. using the bight and grommet seems weirdly complicated and has the problems you mentioned.
The real advantage of the trucker's hitch is the mechanical advantage you get in the tightening step. That allows you a much easier time getting a very taught rope.
Thanks for the video!
One thing that addresses one of your concerns with the taught line hitch is tying some toggles onto your Ridge line with your prussek knot as you did with the truckers hitch. This allows you to save your Ridge line from the possible fraying problem and increases your ease of setup without having to slacken your Ridge line multiple times. I do love me some truckers hitch though! I use it regularly to tie stuff down on my sailboat.
Went out kayak camping last weekend, my 10x12 tarp was set using your exact quick deploy ridgeline and it withstood 60mph winds. Tornado sirens in distance. One hell of a weekend!
I just tried both ways in my garage between two shelf uprights for my own experience. It's a no-brainer. The trucker's hitch is far superior to the taut line hitch for ridge lines. It's faster and easier to tie, you can get it a LOT tighter, it's quick-release, AND you can put a stick in the quick-release bight to prevent accidental release, AND if you do have to tighten it later for some reason, it's a simple act to pull the release, re-stretch and remake the bight. Nicely done, Corporal. Love your concise, clear videos. I've learned a ton from watching you. Thank you!
Hi Corporal. First, using Prusik is definitely better than the toggles. Then, here some things that you missed while comparing the knots - just my 2 cents.
The tightening - trucker can give you better tightening for sure but tautline is named like that for a reason. you can actually pull the rope around the tree so it is as tight as you like and then tie the knot. It is one of those knots that can be tied while the standing end is under tension. So you pull the working end around the tree as hard as you like so it is as tight as you like. Then you do the two loops around the standing end. This locks the knot and keeps the line tight. The final half hitch just locks it.
Very nice comparison though and thank you for the effort! Have a good day.
I didn't miss anything. the truckers hitch has a mechanical advantage and the tautline never will no matter what you do to it. the video was a response to a constant question as to why some top youtubers do this. Thanks for watching
I built a tarp tent and campfire in the garden today and made camp bread and Nutella for my best friends 3 yr old boy. All in the rain! What a great day. And I used the taught line knot I learnt in scouts! I’ll try this system next time. 😂
Great video. First, let me say that I am a huge fan of the trucker's hitch. The is no better way to really cinch down a load, or apply tension when you don't have ratchet straps or other mechanical devices. However, one must be aware that the trucker's hitch does apply a great deal of active friction in lieu of a block and tackle pulley. That friction shortens the lifespan of the rope or cordage.
However, one advantage of the use of tautline hitch on ridgeline is that tautline hitches do not require as much cordage as truckers hitch. The trucker's hitch actually requires more cordage to execute the entire ridgeline. Another advantage is that the tautline hitch doesn't require a toggle or tent stake that the marlin spike. Further, the argument about 'pulling fifty feet of cordage through the knot' to reach the working end is also bogus because the ENTIRE tautline hitch may be tied with a bight which makes it ENTIRELY quick release.
The awkwardness of pinching a bight of the ridgeline through grommets and around toggles would easily be solved by using the same prussik loops approach with the tautlines as that used with the truckers hitch.
Finally, the concern over undue wear on the ridgeline (by pinching through grommets and around toggles) is disingenuous because A) you can use the prussik loop approach, and B) the use of truckers hitch is actually quite damaging to cordage especially compared with tautline hitch.
there is no mechanical advantage to a tautline hitch and it is only good to tent guylines thanks for watching
I love both knots for different reasons. My son is in scouts and we spend a lot of time outdoors using knots. For a ridgeline a truckers hitch can't be beat, but we do a double pass through the loop so it locks itself down. My son is small and cannot pinch & hold the line before tying a slippery half hitch. We like to use the taught line when adjusting tension for our tarps out to tent stakes.
I just upgraded my ridge line to lash-it with dutchgear Dutch hook and wasp. I use soft shackles with a prusik knot to secure the tarp. I have the ability to switch back to rope only but I like the convenience of the titanium dutchgear hardware. Also got a couple titanium toggles if I need them. Very small and lightweight.
Your methods(truckers hitch) are more than adequate though and work quite well. I used your method until recently.
I also keep a 25’ piece of 7/64th Amsteel with a loop on one end handy for when I want to throw up a strong ridge line with your method. Again with soft shackles though. The only thing bad about the hollow core rope like Zing-it, Lash-it and Amsteel is that is doesn’t take traditional knots well. It requires a tool to tie the knots. On other hand it allows you to make a whoopie sling style ridge line and other cool knots.
BTW, when I do a truckers hitch I do the self tightening version. That is awesome! Really appreciate your Channel.
My father was a truck driver and for many years before the advent of ratchet straps and used rope to secure primarily large loads of USG sheetrock and the huge rolls of paper used in the manufacture of it. They always used what you refer to as a trucker's hitch. Truck drivers ( they did not call themselves truckers back then) always called it a " dutchman ". No other knot can provide the tensioning force that this knot can. Why? Because the first loop that you make in reality acts as a pulley and provides mechanical advantage. When tying the knot it is easily pinched off at the first loop with thumb and forefinger of one hand even when under great strain while the other hand completes the slip knot. This was not even a contest! Regards, Cpl. DJD USMC '67
I completely agree on going with a truckers hitch and Prusik. Been doing that for years. However I’m confused as to why you didn’t use prusik loops on the taught line demonstration.
First thing to my mind too.
Maybe the comparison wasn’t meant to be fair by design. This video really only highlighted the utility of the Prusik knot.
He mentioned earlier that the demo was in response to a specific set up (taught line and two sticks) he was only using what a poster had said was better.
Corporal NoBS Kelly, you are The Man...my go-to source of information for everything outdoors, thank you.
Thanks for the easy demo. I like your method with the truckers hitch and prussic loops. Way easier and more options.
Thanks for the video. I have been in awe of people who can tie knots and not have to stop and retie every little bit
Just stumbled across your video, I personally use the knots you preferred. I have questions but will check your channel out before being a broken record. Thanks for posting.
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I appreciate you, Sean. You do a fantastic job of getting us prepared “quickly”. Thank you for the leg up!
It's really personal preference. But that military mind set tells us if we gotta go, we gotta go. Being an army vet I understand that. I use the truckers knot. Non vets are thinking they have all the time in world. Veterans understand get it down and get out. It could cost accomplishment of the mission or even life's if you farting around with a knot.
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I've been doing a quick release taught line. I find that a triple sinche point holds it's weights worth where single and double need adjustment after a simple breeze. Gonna check into the truckers hitch soon though and see it it'll serve the function I'm attempting for
End the taut line hitch with a bite rather than threading the entire loose end and then you got a quick release taut line hitch
You can put a quick release in the tautline and get it down pretty much as quick as a trucker's
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He shows this. Did you watch it all?
5 years ago since posting the video and still being used for my personal reference. Outstanding job sir.
Good to see that you listen to others' points of view. Then give them the benefit of the doubt, and try their methods. Rather than outright dismissing them. It is a good change of pace.
"looks like somebody who doesnt know what their doing trying to act like they do"
Thank you for another excellent video.
Another trick for the taught line hitch ridge line is to just put the paracord through the tarp loops or grommets/tabs, then tie a Prusik from the ridgeline to the tarp grommet/tab. Use the Prusik to tighten the tarp by pulling it directly from the grommet/tab down the ridgeline; therefore eliminating the loop and toggle through the grommet/tab.
Looks like the fastest, easiest way for a ridgeline. I have to practice my knots. Thanks for the video.👍
I use truckers hitch for ridge line and taught-line for various other applications. Can’t go wrong with the truckers hitch...mainly for the ability to get that line tight and solid. We all know tarps catch wind and lines tend to loosen up and lose integrity. That truckers hitch is invaluable for that reason alone. As for the prussic...that is also the more brilliant option bc when your tarp grommets start to rip holes in the tarp (and they will), you can fashion the prussic in such a way (perhaps with a clove hitch) to use a small stone that is encased by the tarp material in place of grommet failure. Failing to prepare means preparing to fail. Think ahead and consider all variables
Thanks for your instruction and great attitude, Corporal
I’m here watching like I said I would. You are the best instructor so please don’t ever stop making videos.
One disadvantage of the taut-line hitch when compared to the trucker's hitch that you didn't mention,but is obvious when watching the video, is that as you tighten the taut-line then length of rope usable for the ridge line gets smaller
Or, you know, you could just tighten the line before tying the hitch in either case. It's a straight line from tree A to tree B. It's not complicated, people. Lock the line around tree A, walk the line to tree B, wrap around it, pull the free end of the line tight, make a hitch with enough room to pull it taut, and lock it off.
Depending on which hitch you choose dictates how much room you ought to leave on either side of the hitch, as obviously they pull in different directions.
Taut line hitch? Tie the hitch right up to the bark and pull the knot towards the center of the line to make it taut. If you need to create a "V" for your hammock suspension to hang through, obviously you'd tie the hitch further towards the center. The good thing is you can adjust it if you don't land the spacing perfectly. Wow! What a concept!
Trucker's hitch? Tie it further into the center so there's room to pull the knot up to the tree. No shit, right?
Seriously, why does this even need to be debated?
@@NostalgicLink as people listen to others and are not trying to think themselves. Someone stated that truckers is easier when you have one hand left only as of the injury. Really, someone is really thinking they would want to tweaks with knots being one handed and feeling pain. Yes, various knots help to do things in a bit more neat and quick way, but - tying a rope between two trees and such a discussion?
And I find it just hilarious that some people really need "huge tension" on 550 paracord (550 lbs breaking strength). This truckers hitch polyspast type system has so many factors which weakens the rope that 550 paracord literally degrades to 100 paracord in this system.
Probably, a lot of guys are actually not tying the ridgeline to place 10x10 feet 1 pound weight tarp on it, but are going to use it to shoot arrows in their enemies :D
Speaking as an artist, it really helps illustrate the knots by using that bright green line against the contrasting brown leaves on the ground and using the 2 tent stakes for trees. Well explained video.
Thats not fair!! You can use prusiks on both! 🤣 And the working end must be kept plied, ofcourse! 🤣👍 I use truckers hitch, by the way🤣
Exactly. It's not like the tarp attachment method is determined by the knot used for the ridgeline.
Being a Scoutmaster we teach the boys to use a two half hitch and taut line hitch for a ridge line. Presidents day weekend we went on a cold weather trip and I showed the guys your set up. They look at me as if it was magic especially when we had to break camp, just a pull on the tag end or pull out the marlin spike all with gloves on and it came apart. It held up and didn't sag even when it snowed that night. They need to learn the way their books say for rank advancement, but I like to show them some of your set ups. They work for me. Thanks.
The taut line can be pulled pretty tight by pulling on the rope working end after putting it around the anchor (tree or stake). The taut line hitch got its name because it can be tied onto a taut standing line.
Love your ridge-line system; I've been using truckers-hitch with prusik knot loop's for a horse high-line system for years. You can't beat that system. I sometimes add a 3ft piece of large diameter rubber surgical tubing attached at one end of the ridge-line (not in-line with the ridge-line) that pulls the ridge-line up and away from the ground at an angle (attach it to an adjacent tree via a rope). That makes the entire ridge-line act like a long spring-loaded bungie cord. The horse can pull down on the ridge-line to feed off of the ground, but as soon as he lifts his head, the ridge-line comes back up to it's original position. This eliminates horses getting tangles in the ridge-line. Semper Fi
Keep on doing what you are doing man, OUTSTANDING!