Do you think removing the thermistor would solve the problem with the chinese motor? Or won't the buwizz protection be enough to keep it from burning out?
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 2 new chinese motors arrived today, and they look a bit different than my other ones. The outputs are a bit darker red, and the protections doesn't kick in as fast anymore. They do rotate slower though.
@Marxpek: Can you verify the ~2500 rpm at buwizz 2 ludicrous / buwizz 3? because at one of their videos they show they have 2500rpm at 12V, curious if those 3 additional Volt will give that more rpm (is this old train thingy from your video 9V odr 12V output?) Regards!
You cant it is there for a reason. Models that have no issues with ludicrous are geared lower and requires less power. It all depends on powerdelivery. You can almost always ease into lud. mod like i did on my buwizz speedrecord going full power too fast results in the protection tripping. It comes down to howmuch you ask of the motors. These testcars were pretty harsh on the motors.
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 I can only adjust the normal mode on buwizz , if I switch to speed mode, buwizz will stop automatically. 2 buggy (2 buwizz). is this normal with buwizz ?
@@legomotorizedandled-sonpt5218 does the buwizz turn off or disconnect? Accelerating too fast results in the overcurrent protection kicking in with 1 buggy motor. Playing with powercurves can help.
rc motor in ludicrous it's simply outrageous, and even if chinese doesn't pair the real one, i wanna keep my one and only...i'll order four of them to stick the new cv joints directly into the -hole- output of each one...a pair of buwizz, then shoud be a nasty 4x4!
Both have overcurrentprotection. (The chinese rc motor as well) in this video mostly the protection in the motors triggered. The buwizz triggers only on ludacrous with real rc motors.
Good video. My guess as to why the monster motor was slower is that it has higher internal friction. I also noticed that you were holding the tachometer differently in each test, but I doubt that would make much of a difference.
Thanks. However.. the monster motor is a bit faster? but the torque and the protection is much worse. And indeed as long as you keep the tachometer still it should not make any difference in measurement. Off camera i used 3 different tachometer and results where all the same five or take 20-40 rpm
Now that i look at the video again... in the cars they are faster. But measured they are slower, i also noticed i kept the tachometer against the other spinning port, might have affected the speed there.. anyway.. get real ones or wait for buwizz to release theirs
Surprisingly in-depth review. Also, I wasn't aware of this Monster Motor, Thanks! Seems like a viable alternative, given that the original 5292 now costs around € 70, used. Also a good thing that there are clear visual differences, so people will know which one they are buying. Still, I wish that TLG would start making the originals again, or something even more brutal (evil laugh)!
I consider the monster motor useable but nowhere near the power of the real deal. If used in lightweight cars it can do well, but once you really need the torque it will fail compared to real Lego. I doubt Lego will ever make fast powerfull motors again, kids do not like their hairs getting eaten.. but i do hope they will make something, just like you..
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 last technics are becoming really expensive, childish technically and aesthetically...at least they sometimes give awesome new pieces but now with contol+ system you can only dream of some return of rc motor, even because a touchable controller is really necessary then...follow the beebeebeebee...buggymotors, bricklink, buwizz, brickcontroller!
@@justanotherguycommenting5754 Couldn't agree more. But TLG is rather slow with these developments. I suppose they think that the market for such items would be too small to be of interest to them.
@@Kelkschiz i mean, look at how (edit:how large the rc model market is) (not lego), for a last resort we can hope for third party brands (definitely not lepin the other brands) to create more of these. They already started with a buggy motor alternative(although not that good) and tank models too
So, I ordered some of these of Ebay for around $15 US. they burned up in a week even with custom cooling and careful load management. If you are serious about lego and want buggy motors I'd suggest saving some money and getting the real deal.
Wow im sad to hear that.. custom cooling even? Any images of the vehicle that burned them out? I havent used them much, the real ones are just much better indeed..
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 well for third party parts consistency is a big issue, i have quite a number of third party motors and i have trouble making tanks because two 'same' motors have different speeds and torque. If you are lucky u might get one thats slightly better than the real deal but its usually very low, i had one l motor faster and more torque but the quality on the plastic failed so its unusable right now
I have 2 real Lego motors, and 2 Sembo motors :) Accidentally ordered 2 sembo motors, cuz of a bug on the website and they wouldn't let me cancel one order. I like them to build in mocs, don't really want to wear down my real Lego motors lol. I actually only noticed a real slight decrease in RPM's like 40 or 50 RPM... weird maybe my real motors have worn down already... but maybe my RPM meter was crappy.
Yes, but removing the safety device on a already poorly made product isnt a great idea. When you overload the motor it will burn out in stead of tripping the protection. Then again, they are cheap enough..
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 What makes you say they are poorly made? Open them up, the quality acutually is not bad at all. And it takes quite some time to burn these motors up. But instead of just removing it, I simply exchanged the thermistor die the ones used in the original als well. Tada, you get a perfectly working motor for very small money.
@@bull897 well a product you have to fix/adjust right out of the box to make them last is a poor quality product in my mind. Besides that, not everyone is capable of replacing components. For the price they are ok but they do not compare to the real deal i think. Especially now buwizz will release upgraded versions for under 30 euro these will become obsolete.
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 Well you adjust it to work better, it works without adjustments as well, Just Not as good as the original. And the adjustment can be done by everyone, it is super easy, Just have to watch 2min Video and you can do it. A very good deal for 5-10€ cost in my opinion. But I am also looking forward to the Buwizz motor, wanna have these tiny Monsters :P
@@bull897 of course i do applaude your effort to get a good motor! Whatever gets the job done i suppose! Please let me know if your mod ever fails (and why if possible)
i bought 2 china buggy motors bc they were only 10 dollars, im waiting for them to get here edit: im a bit late but they got here, dont seem to have the same protection as yours did, so it could probably take the battle
They are worth their money. But you get what you pay for. Not the greatest but better than none! Check the link in the description for the buwizz motor
I found them on aliexpress for 7.5$, already bought 2 of them. They should arrive in 2 weeks. Also i bought thermistors to replace ones that are in motors with more powerful
ludacrous trips the lego buggy motor instantly? WTF in other vids the buggy motor runs fine on ludacrous. WELP IT RUNS EVEN BETTER ITS CALLED LUDACROUS FOR A REASON :D
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 how should we use power curves to decrease the instant speed buwizz utube channel explanations deosnt help at all. Could u pls give some advises
As long as you also do not compare the price between lego and Mould king your test are with nothing and you cannot take a conclution. A test like That require That you compare the price. So I can do it for you. Ipaid 4,9 euro for a mould king motor with exellwct quallity. Price mould king - 4,9 Euro Price lego - between 70-80 euro.
I do mention the price difference, but admitively i should have made its own section for it. Prices did drop for both of them since then tho, i payed at least double for the fake motor back then. For me: i pick quality over quantity any day for everything in life, but in this case, I want the best possible motor in my mocs, saying that; the original isnt the best option anymore, the buwizz motor is and that comes in at 30€. This video in the end is my own opinion, i am glad the fake motors exist, so people can afford to build with this formfactor and enjoy the power, but there are better options, so i prefer those.
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 I paid 4,9€ for my motors and They costed 16€ when They come. If you see what you Get for 4,9€ compared by the one to 70€ you Get a lot more for the money with mould king
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 and on lego motor it is just a Contact. Mould king have a cable out which makes it be Much more easy to place. One moc I have design is impossible to build with lego version buy mould king works good Because it is a cable instead of Contact. That you did not mentioned in your test. The reason you prefer lego is easy = religion. Lego as a Brand is for many a religion, Even it it not better the still believe That all other Brands are garbage
@@helgemyhre9530 i do mention the wire in the video, maybe fully watch it? and i think it is a mistake for both mouldking and buwizz, now the motors cannot be used as true replacements for the rc cars or the crane because of the wire. Fact remains that the lego version even after almost 20 years of use is a better quality motor, i'd be surprised if any mouldking motor would still function after those 20 years, same for the buwizz version. You mention 70-80 for a real motor but i have 22 and i have never payed more than 30euro for any of them in the past 7 years, some came even cheaper as the mouldking price from ebay. But for me its not about the price, its about performance, in low torque applications they can function fine, but for performance you need a real one or even better a buwizz one. Even if they are 6x more expensive, you can still only fit the amount needed, so you loose power. So atm i only get BuWizz motors, those are the best option now.
Yes but the lego motor lasts more the 20+ years, the fakes are poor quality and might break within a year. So the real ones are worth it. Buwizz version is even better.
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Bravo Marxpek. Great review. We have wondered what that motor can do. Thanks.
buwizz I need a buwizz
Where is your faster motor?
@Isaac Eow according to the website they are shipping in april
@@killingtimeitself cool story bro.
@@CanadianTechnicRC they've been continually pushed back so far so that is indeed a cool story.
I got this 5282 kit from my dad many years ago. I hade no idea they were rare :D
Do you think removing the thermistor would solve the problem with the chinese motor? Or won't the buwizz protection be enough to keep it from burning out?
It does not work like that sadly. I think the motor wouldnt last 30 seconds like that. It is just chinese stuff.. keep an eye on the buwizz motor!
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 2 new chinese motors arrived today, and they look a bit different than my other ones. The outputs are a bit darker red, and the protections doesn't kick in as fast anymore. They do rotate slower though.
@@JoranPrins interesting.. how is the torque?
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 Not the best, but decent. If you want you can contact me through instagram @joranprinsyoutube
@@JoranPrins im not on IG. And from your words: they arent worth it. Thanks for letting me know!
@Marxpek: Can you verify the ~2500 rpm at buwizz 2 ludicrous / buwizz 3? because at one of their videos they show they have 2500rpm at 12V, curious if those 3 additional Volt will give that more rpm (is this old train thingy from your video 9V odr 12V output?)
Regards!
How can you turn off the protection? Others have used buwizz ludicrous with rc buggy motors seemingly without this issue.
You cant it is there for a reason. Models that have no issues with ludicrous are geared lower and requires less power. It all depends on powerdelivery. You can almost always ease into lud. mod like i did on my buwizz speedrecord going full power too fast results in the protection tripping. It comes down to howmuch you ask of the motors. These testcars were pretty harsh on the motors.
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 I can only adjust the normal mode on buwizz , if I switch to speed mode, buwizz will stop automatically. 2 buggy (2 buwizz). is this normal with buwizz ?
@@legomotorizedandled-sonpt5218 does the buwizz turn off or disconnect? Accelerating too fast results in the overcurrent protection kicking in with 1 buggy motor. Playing with powercurves can help.
@@legomotorizedandled-sonpt5218 and of course use 2 different ports
rc motor in ludicrous it's simply outrageous, and even if chinese doesn't pair the real one, i wanna keep my one and only...i'll order four of them to stick the new cv joints directly into the -hole- output of each one...a pair of buwizz, then shoud be a nasty 4x4!
Double that up and you have my X-maxx MOC!
where is protection located? It is inside buwizz or inside motor?
Both have overcurrentprotection. (The chinese rc motor as well) in this video mostly the protection in the motors triggered. The buwizz triggers only on ludacrous with real rc motors.
I Got this Motor combined whith the tractor Set. I wanted a second one But the original is extremly extensive😑
Good video. My guess as to why the monster motor was slower is that it has higher internal friction. I also noticed that you were holding the tachometer differently in each test, but I doubt that would make much of a difference.
Thanks. However.. the monster motor is a bit faster? but the torque and the protection is much worse. And indeed as long as you keep the tachometer still it should not make any difference in measurement. Off camera i used 3 different tachometer and results where all the same five or take 20-40 rpm
Now that i look at the video again... in the cars they are faster. But measured they are slower, i also noticed i kept the tachometer against the other spinning port, might have affected the speed there.. anyway.. get real ones or wait for buwizz to release theirs
Surprisingly in-depth review. Also, I wasn't aware of this Monster Motor, Thanks!
Seems like a viable alternative, given that the original 5292 now costs around € 70, used. Also a good thing that there are clear visual differences, so people will know which one they are buying. Still, I wish that TLG would start making the originals again, or something even more brutal (evil laugh)!
I consider the monster motor useable but nowhere near the power of the real deal. If used in lightweight cars it can do well, but once you really need the torque it will fail compared to real Lego. I doubt Lego will ever make fast powerfull motors again, kids do not like their hairs getting eaten.. but i do hope they will make something, just like you..
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 last technics are becoming really expensive, childish technically and aesthetically...at least they sometimes give awesome new pieces but now with contol+ system you can only dream of some return of rc motor, even because a touchable controller is really necessary then...follow the beebeebeebee...buggymotors, bricklink, buwizz, brickcontroller!
They should make a adults or expert section and add better motors and maybe even more conplex parts or even bearing parts
@@justanotherguycommenting5754 Couldn't agree more. But TLG is rather slow with these developments. I suppose they think that the market for such items would be too small to be of interest to them.
@@Kelkschiz i mean, look at how (edit:how large the rc model market is) (not lego), for a last resort we can hope for third party brands (definitely not lepin the other brands) to create more of these. They already started with a buggy motor alternative(although not that good) and tank models too
So, I ordered some of these of Ebay for around $15 US. they burned up in a week even with custom cooling and careful load management. If you are serious about lego and want buggy motors I'd suggest saving some money and getting the real deal.
Wow im sad to hear that.. custom cooling even? Any images of the vehicle that burned them out? I havent used them much, the real ones are just much better indeed..
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 well for third party parts consistency is a big issue, i have quite a number of third party motors and i have trouble making tanks because two 'same' motors have different speeds and torque. If you are lucky u might get one thats slightly better than the real deal but its usually very low, i had one l motor faster and more torque but the quality on the plastic failed so its unusable right now
I think the Chinese buggy motor is alright for speed, but not so good for torque.
it won the hill climb unless the protection kicked in
Link?
Did you open the chinese motor? Maybe it‘s possible to bridge the protection. I know, it‘s there forma reason.. Maybe I‘ll try it some day!
Zerobricks did this and motor started to smell like burnt plastic and died within minutes he told me...
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 (aka. The thermistor)
Why not attach a liftarm or something when trying to grab the axle? Haha would’ve been less painful! Great review thank you :)
That would have been the bright thing to do.. but.. erm.. the dog ate my homework alot..idk.. thanks for the tip 😉 and thanks for watching!
Thanks for this. Obvious answer is to get the China version and change out the protection thermister.
I have 2 real Lego motors, and 2 Sembo motors :) Accidentally ordered 2 sembo motors, cuz of a bug on the website and they wouldn't let me cancel one order. I like them to build in mocs, don't really want to wear down my real Lego motors lol. I actually only noticed a real slight decrease in RPM's like 40 or 50 RPM... weird maybe my real motors have worn down already... but maybe my RPM meter was crappy.
Sembo motors are the monster motors? The same thing?
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 Yep! they are monster motors made by Sembo :)
@@JoranPrins cool i heard the name sembo before, but did not know that was the manufactor. What rpm meter did you use?
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 it has the sembo logo on the box 🙂 I used a Lego rpm meter
@@JoranPrins for me there was no box. Just 3 padded plastic bags around it.
with a small mod the Chinese one won’t trip on load
Yes, but removing the safety device on a already poorly made product isnt a great idea. When you overload the motor it will burn out in stead of tripping the protection. Then again, they are cheap enough..
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 What makes you say they are poorly made? Open them up, the quality acutually is not bad at all.
And it takes quite some time to burn these motors up.
But instead of just removing it, I simply exchanged the thermistor die the ones used in the original als well. Tada, you get a perfectly working motor for very small money.
@@bull897 well a product you have to fix/adjust right out of the box to make them last is a poor quality product in my mind. Besides that, not everyone is capable of replacing components. For the price they are ok but they do not compare to the real deal i think. Especially now buwizz will release upgraded versions for under 30 euro these will become obsolete.
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3
Well you adjust it to work better, it works without adjustments as well, Just Not as good as the original.
And the adjustment can be done by everyone, it is super easy, Just have to watch 2min Video and you can do it. A very good deal for 5-10€ cost in my opinion.
But I am also looking forward to the Buwizz motor, wanna have these tiny Monsters :P
@@bull897 of course i do applaude your effort to get a good motor! Whatever gets the job done i suppose! Please let me know if your mod ever fails (and why if possible)
i bought 2 china buggy motors bc they were only 10 dollars, im waiting for them to get here
edit: im a bit late but they got here, dont seem to have the same protection as yours did, so it could probably take the battle
They are worth their money. But you get what you pay for. Not the greatest but better than none! Check the link in the description for the buwizz motor
I found them on aliexpress for 7.5$, already bought 2 of them. They should arrive in 2 weeks. Also i bought thermistors to replace ones that are in motors with more powerful
It's quite sad that Lego discontinued the legendary 8287 buggy motor😥
Keep an eye on the BuWizz site! They will have a great surprise for you in a while! Keywords: better and cheaper!
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 Okay, but now you made me curious about the surprise
@@zuanverreynne8301 go check their youtube channel, it looks like the chinese one from my video but it is not!
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 Have you seen this video with the BuWizz motor?ruclips.net/video/nhbGAtWArsA/видео.html
@@zuanverreynne8301 that is what i ment! There is more then meets the eye here!
I got one of those on aliexpress for 2 bucks
tja 50-60 $ and fake is 12$ hmmm.. its ok for 12$
chinese doesnt always mean crap but how can you know?
ludacrous trips the lego buggy motor instantly? WTF in other vids the buggy motor runs fine on ludacrous.
WELP IT RUNS EVEN BETTER ITS CALLED LUDACROUS FOR A REASON :D
Yes it does when you go full power too fast. You can ease into it or use power curves in the new buwizz app
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 ok thanks :D
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 how should we use power curves to decrease the instant speed buwizz utube channel explanations deosnt help at all. Could u pls give some advises
@@Sanzerizeli i could go into detail but green gecko just released a good video on this and more, please check it out.
Yeah mine does that and it’s so annoying
As long as you also do not compare the price between lego and Mould king your test are with nothing and you cannot take a conclution. A test like That require That you compare the price. So I can do it for you.
Ipaid 4,9 euro for a mould king motor with exellwct quallity.
Price mould king - 4,9 Euro
Price lego - between 70-80 euro.
I do mention the price difference, but admitively i should have made its own section for it. Prices did drop for both of them since then tho, i payed at least double for the fake motor back then. For me: i pick quality over quantity any day for everything in life, but in this case, I want the best possible motor in my mocs, saying that; the original isnt the best option anymore, the buwizz motor is and that comes in at 30€.
This video in the end is my own opinion, i am glad the fake motors exist, so people can afford to build with this formfactor and enjoy the power, but there are better options, so i prefer those.
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3
I paid 4,9€ for my motors and They costed 16€ when They come. If you see what you Get for 4,9€ compared by the one to 70€ you Get a lot more for the money with mould king
@@marxpeklegotechnicdesign3 and on lego motor it is just a Contact. Mould king have a cable out which makes it be Much more easy to place.
One moc I have design is impossible to build with lego version buy mould king works good Because it is a cable instead of Contact. That you did not mentioned in your test.
The reason you prefer lego is easy = religion. Lego as a Brand is for many a religion, Even it it not better the still believe That all other Brands are garbage
@@helgemyhre9530 i do mention the wire in the video, maybe fully watch it? and i think it is a mistake for both mouldking and buwizz, now the motors cannot be used as true replacements for the rc cars or the crane because of the wire. Fact remains that the lego version even after almost 20 years of use is a better quality motor, i'd be surprised if any mouldking motor would still function after those 20 years, same for the buwizz version. You mention 70-80 for a real motor but i have 22 and i have never payed more than 30euro for any of them in the past 7 years, some came even cheaper as the mouldking price from ebay. But for me its not about the price, its about performance, in low torque applications they can function fine, but for performance you need a real one or even better a buwizz one. Even if they are 6x more expensive, you can still only fit the amount needed, so you loose power. So atm i only get BuWizz motors, those are the best option now.
Lego buggy motor is 400yuan ,fake buggy 20yuan😂
Yes but the lego motor lasts more the 20+ years, the fakes are poor quality and might break within a year. So the real ones are worth it. Buwizz version is even better.
You would get more likes if you had different music in your vids
What kind of music would you suggest?