I don't even own a motorbike or car, I'm not planning to buy one soon, nor I have a lot of interest in motor vehicles but the videos presented by these two gentlemen makes me come back for more again and again.
a few months ago i was dying to know your opinions on this bike but as time passed and i gained more knowledge I think that my understanding of motorcycles have changed drastically thank you for this video but i will chose rc 390 over this anytime anyday anywhere
Buy the TVS version as TVS will have spare parts even after 30 or 40 years. They are extremely consistent in their quality control. Not to mention they will sell you the hardware with no markup when you buy it separately so that you can fix it yourself.
And to be honest 6 years with the RTR200, the service has been on point for me, there are a few niggles and misses, but overall I'm far better served at TVS than I was at Honda or Hero Honda previously
@@DemomanChaos0508 We went to the showroom to fix my dad's old tvs 45. Never even thought they will have anything for that bike considering that it's older than me. But they had each and every part and it wasn't even old. All made just 4 months prior. I just love how humble they are.
@@onepunchman6165 Glad to know mate! BTW, I tried a quick google search for TVS 45, I couldn't find which two wheeler your dad owns. Mind sharing a link to the machine? It's fascinating that TVS still stocks all parts for a bike that old.
now that's something I pay my internet bills for the Audio is one of the best, detailing like the addition of exhaust notes, RR310 overlays and my Fav quoting Chandler Bing "could BMW India be more serious" . Wholesome guys 💌
Hey guys. Second 310 fanboy here in the comments. I own the TVS BTO of this motorcycle. Love it as my first 300CC segment but I couldn't agree more on everything but I'm still able to live with this motorcycle even if its not as exciting because, well, my first sports bike, it's got adjustable suspension, front and back and I could argue that this BTO set of KYB suspensions are almost as good as some other 600CC class supersports I have tried. The tyres are brilliant, so brilliant that it almost gives the rider overconfidence and same can be said about the chasis. It inspires more and asks for more. The comfortable, almost sports-touring type seating position, the cockpit experience, getting that feeling of being able to manually adjust something on your bike (suspensions or basic maintenance) is something very close to me as I've worked on my father's old motorcycles with him. This bike is an emotion to me. Notice how I didn't say anything about the engine? 😐 Yeah. The power delivery is confusing, there's buzz from 1000rpm all the way to redline. It's bit boring compared to current 250s and 400s. I agree that the bike feels more old and dated in power figures compared to its other rivals. But above 6000rpm, I am always smiling and giggling. It may not blow your socks off but it's almost enough engaging that it's always fun. Hope TVS makes some 400CC updates to this platform. Can't expect anything from BMW on that front. Thank you so much for this long awaited video. You guys are awesome and Shumi's mildly angry jokes gives me life 😄❤️.
Bhai I am a owner of tvs rr310 too. And my experience is exactly the same. I drive it every single day and enjoy it. My experience with this machine is the best I ever had in this lifetime. ❤❤❤❤❤
*"If the Pilot street is the Kardashian you can vaguely recognize but can never name, the Road 5 is Kim!"* Wow Shumi sir! You summarized the entire video in that one line. I have one suggestion for the production team! I'd love to see review videos to be presented like stories with the content shot completely outdoors, that would be great! This is just a suggestion that you may consider trying once!😉
Hey @motorinc! It's me, your 310 fanboy!😂 The video I was waiting for! The RR310 platform is such a versatile line if they play their cards right... The lack of updates has left this motorcycle less than desirable in terms of performance. The sole reason someone would go for this today as it is, would be that either they're a massive fan of the brand, or want a sports bike that doesn't challenge you very much despite the 300cc figure that the engine boasts. They nailed everything in this other than the heart of the machine and it's sad to see... My view is that even if TVS adds the RTR engine to the RR, it won't make as big of a difference as it needs to convince a buyer to get one, but I'm hoping that I get proven wrong! Would you guys recommend this machine once the new engine comes on-board? I'd like to know what's your view on this! Also I love the fact that you guys at MotorInc try to respond to each comment, and as a new member of the community, it feels so welcoming! Hoping to be recognised as a regular commenter in one of your upcoming MotorInc First episodes!❤
That's a great viewpoint Chaitanya! Thank you! We're thinking making a 3XXcc engine today seems odd because we're clearly going for 250s as one class and 400s as another and nothing in the middle apart from retro/REs seem to work.
This guy is becoming my favvy fav just in few months! He's too witty and makes sense with his words. Also, kudos for the content you guys are creating, no nonsense all info! ❤
Missed Petal disk brake difference too. BMW one - doesn't have that too😅 I don't know why they still charge more without Bluetooth connectivity, Petal Disk brake and Michelin Road 5 tires 😮
Hey Kartikeya, it was an amazing feeling meeting you in between the movie Dune. I thoroughly enjoyed getting to exchange those few words with you and felt just over the top when I reached out after hesitating. I truly wish to see a season 2 of Disconnect soon. I was left with a bit of regret having not asked for a selfie out of hesitation and feeling like an intruder though. I still want to say though that you guys have become like ideals for not just moto journalism but even from the side of a personal mentor for the audience as you guys are hugely inspirational to all watching you. Thanks for the amazing content you guys put up and being real and yourself in sharing all your thoughts without shouting with fake excitement.
This is the comment I was waiting a reply on most eagerly, and the only one on this channel I haven't received a reply on. Nonetheless, love you and your content guys!
You know how you read a book you've already read and enjoyed before? You know almost exactly what's coming next but that only ups the excitement. All your videos are like that. This one is just awesome! Gonna come back and watch this 25 times with no intention to ever buy the 310.
I have been living with a 2018 BS4 RR 310 for almost 5 years now. It was the perfect choice for me, coming from an R15 v1, especially considering the R3 was discontinued at the time and the RC was too agressive. I use it for commute to work and loooong tours. The fact that TVS has not changed the bike much has worked out quite well for me. It allowed me to get a fuel X Pro, which took the sting out of the vibes and later added the adjustable suspensions from the BTO model which completly transformed the package. Not to mention it looks menacing, reasonably comfortable, carries good amount of luggage, fast enough, built well and still relevant.
These Motorinc videos are the ones I wait for the most. As these tell you what the vehicle is actually. I love it. These videos show the heart poured into them. Waiting for more on the existing products like cb300r, duke 250, rtr 310, Yamaha r15 and what not.
310 Fan boy here, @MotorInc !! finally, the review i was dying to watch since a year or so. I settled up buying the apache rr310 6 months ago but i made my mind back in 2018 when i first had the glimpses of this machine when powerdrift dropped the video, it was love at first site tbh and accepted the motorcycle with whatever cons it comes with. I agree on everything u guys said about this machine, it is due for a massive update and TVS aint doing sh*t, the buzz is there, the hard and rough gear shifting is there, parts availability is questionable rather the parts are always unavailable and the biggest disappointment, the after sale service! lack of skilled mechanics. This could have been a gem of a motorcycle if TVS had given it the care it deserved. I hope the TVS execs see this video and do their homework right or atleast blow the dust away on the RR's chapter
After pondering for 1 year... testing 390 duke, new himalayan, interceptor, conti gt.... and after lot of questions to Motorinc (a few of which you answered patiently and ignoring many nagging questions)... i finally ordered Conti GT last week. Motorinc videos helped in taking the decision in a chill manner... that one video where Shumi and Karthik say its okay to make mistake and get riding experience rather than being in decision paralysis was the turning point.... Thanks Shumi and Karthik :) :)
@motorinc OMG. Honda is uncooperative with journos and reviewers. Your esteemed team not getting the bikes are shocking. Arrogant of Honda motorcycle india. Anyway continue with your honest and Blunt reviews. Take care.
I was considering G310gs but thank god i got the Vstrom sx and right now just came back from a 200km ride to the beach. So freakin amazing bike and returned me a FE of 40km/L. Can’t thank Shumi enough for introducing me to the Vstrom sx ❤ Long live Motorinc !
Admin! I have a doubt , I really wish you and Kartik explain us in next video just briefly. “ When we use a quick shifter, the clutch isn’t involved, though the engine gets cut off while the gear changes.” So my question is does that mean the quick shifter will result in better lifespan of the clutch plate. In other terms will using quick shifter result in less wear and tear of the clutch plates. This stuff is roaming around my mind, help me🥴.
Why does that need a video? A quickshifter reduces the time the system is unloaded so that shifts happen faster. You'd do the exact same thing when you make a clutches upshift (safe on sequential transmissions) but you would take longer. A quickshifter should not wear your clutch out faster, it might even lengthen their life
@@motorinc just out of curiosity how much static and rider sag would you recommend for indian road conditions? Also is it worth setting sag for road use only?
So far the only channel i found that gives honest opinions to the customers . Ur harsh sometimes to many but that what we need to be frank 😄 to knkw the truth .. not the paid promotion
i own a 310 GS, Its been 5 years now and 40k kms and i love it in traffic and i love it on the highway. Its a sweet bike. Though i cannot say the same for the price and official service cost (actually its diametrically opposite and horrendous).
Same here dude, riding on Indian roads is like off road lol, I enjoy the bike in city highways everywhere, considering service is at 10k kms I think it's fine, but the 3rd service is going to be a bomb
I own an Apache RR310 and definitely points mentioned here are accurate .. the engine is vibey but i got used to it and man i love this machine 😍 Also, i am very lucky to have got a good TVS dealership and the servicr guy has also become my friends so gives proper advices and knows really well on how this machine behaves! I have toured a lot on this bike .. and clocked around 20k in 1 year.. solo rides are absolutely fun with little luggage .. pillion rides are tiring but proper stops makes it comfortable and easy. Average service costs around 2-2.5k . I love this bike since this has been my dream bike and because of shumi i have learned many new things ❤
Awesome! Please do name and credit the dealer here if you can Ankur! There's too many complaints with TVS Service and that means every dealer who's doing a good job needs their name to be more public!
I really did. It makes sense that the bike itself is NOT a good value for money proposition, but it looks just so darn good. Against better judgement, I am actually thinking of purchasing one second hand. A test ride along with a compare with RC390 would be in order. @motorinc your thoughts?
Audio engineering was insanely good in the first minute and a half but I heard some echos over voiceover later, idk if they were sound effects or bad sound proofing of room, but they didn't sound nice either way.
Hai, couple of videos ago I had asked you guys to review the RR. Thankyou so much, I own the first gen, it's still an emotional attachment than a practical choice and in someways it feels good to see your review on the bike. Thankyou so much again. Might I add TVS is actually selling fewer of RR than BMW because of the brand value. I would love to see the new aluminium sub frame on the RR, which given the time and money I'm considering myself (for the looks). The vibrations are all there is, but I forget them as soon as I'm in the traffic and people look at it like a superbike. Much love to you guys, I sure appreciate your honesty and you've made a point that bike reviews don't generally need gopros and wind noise.
@@motorinc the showroom itself said so, and the trend with this bike was such, everyone was so set on changing logos, slapping on stickers and convert it into a "bmw bike" way before bmw even launched it. Then there were people within the community itself who sold their RR to buy 310RR. My question is was it an upgrade or a downgrade?🤣 There were cases of BMW charging their customers a premium service cost of about 10k which then later cleared out as some extra thing customer opted for like coating polishing or something. Atleast that's what they claim.🤭
Guys if you made short videos series on bike maintenance, wheel alignment, suspension adjustment, lever adjustment, cause and effect ( ex low tire pressure what u feel? Bike pulls to right a bit what's the cause etc) would be awesome.
As a former owner of TVS second Apache RTR 180 back home in India, I'd say TVS needs to brush their after sales followed by bringing refinement to this engine. Power is still usable for people not wanting a powerful 40 bhp motorcycle. The tech, tyres and features that Apache RR310 offers under BTO will always triumph the BMW if badge is what you are not chasing. But I agree, at a standstill and parked state, the white beamer looks pretty than the TVS product. Hopefully they fix these minor ones with the new upgrade to RR310 due soon this year. 🤞
Well i own an TVS Apache 310 RR and all the points mentioned are true ...more than features ..this bike needs a smoother and refined engine ...my friend owns a R15 and my ohh my is its engine smooth AF...lets hope they update the engine's bike
Ok I Own this bike, so hard to digest the feedback, but whoever reads this comment all the information is true, they missed out ratttling noise, I think he wore a helmet while test riding the bike, but the good stuff you are always in control while riding the bike, yes power delivery is confusing may be the modes switch confuses itself, but the confidence on riding the bike is always high, it stops good, revs bad but once you are in 100 - 120 kms man you will love it.
As Usual Great Video and nicely presented by Shumi Sir. Small feedback I felt that the audio had a weird reverb to it which made it sound little odd. Otherwise great production as always 🙂
Thanks for covering these motorcycles, Motorinc. The G 310 RR is quite desirable due to its badge and the price. But its TVS counterpart decimates that feeling of exclusivity, for me at least.
I always thought the 310rr was designed heavily inspired by the panigale. And when Shumi said ‘Italian’ it was official 😂. But what was surprising it was claimed by a German parent 😮
Dear @motorinc team when you guys are uploading the road ride review of Aprilia RS 457, and what's your thoughts on CF Moto SR/SS 450 ? Love yours content too, the only channel I can listen for an hour 👍
Dear Shumi & Team, you must have spent time & efforts to study in details on these both BMW 310RR & TVS. But I want to understand why BMW does that? To be in good books of TVS? Or sharing the platforms as per the agreements. There is a lot more insider information with lot more differences in the Engineering process for both the bikes which is not to be disclosed either by the BMW or TVS but the engineering team is dedicated to designing of the engine. The second version of the 310cc engine is great. There is still some disconnect that makes these bikes different which we are not aware or we are masked off that still needs to be uncovered. Anyways a good vlog 💐
Why a brand does what it does is far harder to unravel. The platform sharing was to build a younger audience and TVS is an astute choice of partner for sure. If anything, BMW isn't using TVS' skills well enough. And from what we've seen the original effort towards making sure BMW and TVS had different bikes slowly reduced. At the G 310 RR there basically isn't any.
@@motorinc TVS is aggressive in releasing new features and bringing changes into the market whereas Germans do not, I was a part of German Automotive company into Automotive domain, any changes they made goes into rigorous tests so the customer doesn’t face any problems, there are set of stringent procedures followed and need to pass their norms. Hence you get less changes perfection is the focus. I agree it’s luring to see TVS’s products are more attractive in features and what they have to offer. Since the other partner being slower and the TVS parent is stalled. I agree to your point as well, we need to see significant differences in the bikes, like G310GS went global, TVS didn’t make a Adv out of it
I guess your Video was also like the BMW s work The Voice was A bit Eco ing in the background but ya it was nice seeing some experiments with the background and a new room I guess Video was great & Informative Thanks
Gracefully explained. BTW scrolling through some old reddit threads I found out that Motorinc gets a lot of hate from Dominar and CB350 owners saying that Shumi doesn't realise the potential these bikes have, so I would really appreciate if the admin let us know what opinion the team has on those bikes (or through a video maybe?).
Thanks for the very well targeted video, I respect it when u2b'ers discuss the problems in this much honesty. Just aside, I wished in the video you call the models as BMW or TVS all the time instead of "310" and "RR" badges... that's freaking confusing to follow )))) luckily they have most of the time similar features )))
It all makes a lot of sense now. I always wondered why BMW never do its trade shows in Tech park or have showroom near IT park. KTM, Honda does all the time. BMW showroom here in Bangalore is in Lavelle Road. This is the poshest colony in Bangalore, where old rich folks or people who made money in early 90's stays here. people in their 50's grouping and riding Harley and BMW. BMW has no intention to sell to us, Their target is the aging rich old guys who have been riding bmw's, That is why service cost is also high because for these people its a pocket change.
Hi motorinc folks. I have been planning on buying a 125 cc bike. My options are raider, sp 125, ns 125 and pulsar 125. Plz make a video on that.I reckon people are gonna watch it.😲
I thought the screen on my phone has turned yellow but it was just the video 😅 Usually it's pure white background I think it could be some editing issue but nice video regardless! ❤
German Brands should listen to Shumi, finding a new customer base will be critical. Japanese brands have realised this and slowly started moving to offer slightly better products.
Really bro😂 I don't think they listened at all. Suzuki, honda isn't releasing their hero products(smaller cc more bhp) here. Yamaha screwed in price game.(r3 and mt03). One mt15, r15 or cb300r isn't justifying what u r saying.
Funny thing is BMW charges more money for less equipment compared to the TVS but of the two BMW sells more G310RRs only due to the badge value, even my cousin bought one for the badge recently over the RTR310 I suggested😂 Also can you do a video on the Pulsar NS200 as it recently became 2024 bike pleeeeeeaaseee😁
Hi motorinc, Thank you for this wonderful video. I want to upgrade from my 2014 re classic 350 to something lighter with more power, performance and comfort.. could you suggest a few options available in the market or soon will be available in India that can be a good commuter asa well as can take on some decent highway miles for my semi annual long distance rides. Love your work, Keep up the good work. Love, Rajat
I came to know that KTM RC 200 has come with new color options in their 2024 varient. Is there any other significant difference apart from the color scheme in the machine?
HI MOTORINC great video as always cant go wrong with you guys lol XD but i feel a pulsar fared 400 is all we need for this segment any idea when they will be around ??
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Sir please give in-depth view in Triumph scramb x 400 as I want to buy or should I go for upcoming RE 450 scrambler
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That was not a compliment
"Cut we are done" is the best part of this video.❤
Shumi is angy 😾
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Not sure that's a conclusion Shumi's reached though, @iamnipuhasan
"You could argue that, we will move on" 😅
I don't even own a motorbike or car, I'm not planning to buy one soon, nor I have a lot of interest in motor vehicles but the videos presented by these two gentlemen makes me come back for more again and again.
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
a few months ago i was dying to know your opinions on this bike
but as time passed and i gained more knowledge I think that my understanding of motorcycles have changed drastically
thank you for this video but i will chose rc 390 over this anytime anyday anywhere
Thanks for letting us know! Glad you enjoyed the watch!
Buy the TVS version as TVS will have spare parts even after 30 or 40 years.
They are extremely consistent in their quality control.
Not to mention they will sell you the hardware with no markup when you buy it separately so that you can fix it yourself.
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And to be honest 6 years with the RTR200, the service has been on point for me, there are a few niggles and misses, but overall I'm far better served at TVS than I was at Honda or Hero Honda previously
@@DemomanChaos0508 We went to the showroom to fix my dad's old tvs 45. Never even thought they will have anything for that bike considering that it's older than me. But they had each and every part and it wasn't even old. All made just 4 months prior.
I just love how humble they are.
@@onepunchman6165 Glad to know mate! BTW, I tried a quick google search for TVS 45, I couldn't find which two wheeler your dad owns. Mind sharing a link to the machine? It's fascinating that TVS still stocks all parts for a bike that old.
Parts availability with Hero,Bajaj and TVS is always good. Honda sucks in higher segment bikes.
now that's something I pay my internet bills for
the Audio is one of the best, detailing like the addition of exhaust notes, RR310 overlays
and my Fav quoting Chandler Bing "could BMW India be more serious" . Wholesome guys 💌
Thanks Sradhasuman! Glad you enjoyed the watch!
Hey guys. Second 310 fanboy here in the comments. I own the TVS BTO of this motorcycle. Love it as my first 300CC segment but I couldn't agree more on everything but I'm still able to live with this motorcycle even if its not as exciting because, well, my first sports bike, it's got adjustable suspension, front and back and I could argue that this BTO set of KYB suspensions are almost as good as some other 600CC class supersports I have tried. The tyres are brilliant, so brilliant that it almost gives the rider overconfidence and same can be said about the chasis. It inspires more and asks for more. The comfortable, almost sports-touring type seating position, the cockpit experience, getting that feeling of being able to manually adjust something on your bike (suspensions or basic maintenance) is something very close to me as I've worked on my father's old motorcycles with him. This bike is an emotion to me.
Notice how I didn't say anything about the engine? 😐 Yeah. The power delivery is confusing, there's buzz from 1000rpm all the way to redline. It's bit boring compared to current 250s and 400s. I agree that the bike feels more old and dated in power figures compared to its other rivals.
But above 6000rpm, I am always smiling and giggling. It may not blow your socks off but it's almost enough engaging that it's always fun. Hope TVS makes some 400CC updates to this platform. Can't expect anything from BMW on that front.
Thank you so much for this long awaited video. You guys are awesome and Shumi's mildly angry jokes gives me life 😄❤️.
Thanks Shrey! We're always thrilled to see riders who are excited about their machines and we're very happy for you!
Great review. BMW is looking old because TVS has not updated the RR 😅
Bro we have got the same name and the same bike 😂
Bhai I am a owner of tvs rr310 too. And my experience is exactly the same. I drive it every single day and enjoy it. My experience with this machine is the best I ever had in this lifetime. ❤❤❤❤❤
@@motorinc thank you ❤️
loved the background scores on this one...
Thanks Kshitij!
Brilliant one, Shumi....
Engine: Vibey: ouch!
Performance: Adequate: Ouchhh!
Market positioning:Trishanku! Ouchhhhh!
Done...Cut...Fade out!
Perfect! 😅
Trishanku. What a great reference Ajay!
*"If the Pilot street is the Kardashian you can vaguely recognize but can never name, the Road 5 is Kim!"* Wow Shumi sir! You summarized the entire video in that one line.
I have one suggestion for the production team! I'd love to see review videos to be presented like stories with the content shot completely outdoors, that would be great! This is just a suggestion that you may consider trying once!😉
No plan to make outdoors content until the quality level is where we are at, or higher, Arun.
Hey @motorinc!
It's me, your 310 fanboy!😂
The video I was waiting for!
The RR310 platform is such a versatile line if they play their cards right... The lack of updates has left this motorcycle less than desirable in terms of performance. The sole reason someone would go for this today as it is, would be that either they're a massive fan of the brand, or want a sports bike that doesn't challenge you very much despite the 300cc figure that the engine boasts.
They nailed everything in this other than the heart of the machine and it's sad to see...
My view is that even if TVS adds the RTR engine to the RR, it won't make as big of a difference as it needs to convince a buyer to get one, but I'm hoping that I get proven wrong!
Would you guys recommend this machine once the new engine comes on-board? I'd like to know what's your view on this!
Also I love the fact that you guys at MotorInc try to respond to each comment, and as a new member of the community, it feels so welcoming!
Hoping to be recognised as a regular commenter in one of your upcoming MotorInc First episodes!❤
That's a great viewpoint Chaitanya! Thank you! We're thinking making a 3XXcc engine today seems odd because we're clearly going for 250s as one class and 400s as another and nothing in the middle apart from retro/REs seem to work.
This guy is becoming my favvy fav just in few months! He's too witty and makes sense with his words. Also, kudos for the content you guys are creating, no nonsense all info! ❤
Thank you so much Rahul! Happy you're enjoying the MotorInc experience!
Missed Petal disk brake difference too. BMW one - doesn't have that too😅
I don't know why they still charge more without Bluetooth connectivity, Petal Disk brake and Michelin Road 5 tires 😮
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Hey Kartikeya, it was an amazing feeling meeting you in between the movie Dune. I thoroughly enjoyed getting to exchange those few words with you and felt just over the top when I reached out after hesitating. I truly wish to see a season 2 of Disconnect soon. I was left with a bit of regret having not asked for a selfie out of hesitation and feeling like an intruder though. I still want to say though that you guys have become like ideals for not just moto journalism but even from the side of a personal mentor for the audience as you guys are hugely inspirational to all watching you. Thanks for the amazing content you guys put up and being
real and yourself in sharing all your thoughts without shouting with fake excitement.
This is the comment I was waiting a reply on most eagerly, and the only one on this channel I haven't received a reply on. Nonetheless, love you and your content guys!
You know how you read a book you've already read and enjoyed before? You know almost exactly what's coming next but that only ups the excitement. All your videos are like that. This one is just awesome! Gonna come back and watch this 25 times with no intention to ever buy the 310.
Thanks Sudhi! Glad you enjoyed the watch and love that you're thrilled with the MotorInc experience!
I have been living with a 2018 BS4 RR 310 for almost 5 years now.
It was the perfect choice for me, coming from an R15 v1, especially considering the R3 was discontinued at the time and the RC was too agressive.
I use it for commute to work and loooong tours.
The fact that TVS has not changed the bike much has worked out quite well for me. It allowed me to get a fuel X Pro, which took the sting out of the vibes and later added the adjustable suspensions from the BTO model which completly transformed the package. Not to mention it looks menacing, reasonably comfortable, carries good amount of luggage, fast enough, built well and still relevant.
Nice upgrades Prayag! Glad you're enjoying your riding!
I am thinking to get this bike how would fuel x work for me and get me better engine power?
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Nailed it, New Motorinc team at work I believe, can see it clearly
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These Motorinc videos are the ones I wait for the most.
As these tell you what the vehicle is actually. I love it.
These videos show the heart poured into them.
Waiting for more on the existing products like cb300r, duke 250, rtr 310, Yamaha r15 and what not.
310 Fan boy here, @MotorInc !! finally, the review i was dying to watch since a year or so. I settled up buying the apache rr310 6 months ago but i made my mind back in 2018 when i first had the glimpses of this machine when powerdrift dropped the video, it was love at first site tbh and accepted the motorcycle with whatever cons it comes with. I agree on everything u guys said about this machine, it is due for a massive update and TVS aint doing sh*t, the buzz is there, the hard and rough gear shifting is there, parts availability is questionable rather the parts are always unavailable and the biggest disappointment, the after sale service! lack of skilled mechanics. This could have been a gem of a motorcycle if TVS had given it the care it deserved. I hope the TVS execs see this video and do their homework right or atleast blow the dust away on the RR's chapter
Glad you got the bike you dreamt of HughJackman8347! Congratulations and safe rides!
sometimes I watch motorinc just for the thrill of learning new english jargons and isioms only..
never disappointed 😂
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7:04 "TVs service has a reputation of being slightly difficult"
That's a big understatement. They are HORRIBLE when it comes to service.
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Left everything and came back ❤
Welcome back once again!
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After pondering for 1 year... testing 390 duke, new himalayan, interceptor, conti gt.... and after lot of questions to Motorinc (a few of which you answered patiently and ignoring many nagging questions)... i finally ordered Conti GT last week. Motorinc videos helped in taking the decision in a chill manner... that one video where Shumi and Karthik say its okay to make mistake and get riding experience rather than being in decision paralysis was the turning point.... Thanks Shumi and Karthik :) :)
Awesome! We hope you get your delivery soon!
Thanks!@@motorinc
I think that shumi sir is one of the most learned and skilled rider !wish to have knowledge like you one day sir !
Thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🖖🏽
Never miss content from here. Really honest opinions.
Request your honest feedback on the honda cb300f. Kindly do a short video.
Thank you.
Thanks Arvind! Waiting for F & R test bikes!
@motorinc OMG. Honda is uncooperative with journos and reviewers. Your esteemed team not getting the bikes are shocking. Arrogant of Honda motorcycle india. Anyway continue with your honest and Blunt reviews. Take care.
I was considering G310gs but thank god i got the Vstrom sx and right now just came back from a 200km ride to the beach. So freakin amazing bike and returned me a FE of 40km/L. Can’t thank Shumi enough for introducing me to the Vstrom sx ❤
Long live Motorinc !
Ashes! Good to hear you went for a ride and loved your day out! Glad we could help you in this too!
Admin! I have a doubt , I really wish you and Kartik explain us in next video just briefly. “ When we use a quick shifter, the clutch isn’t involved, though the engine gets cut off while the gear changes.” So my question is does that mean the quick shifter will result in better lifespan of the clutch plate. In other terms will using quick shifter result in less wear and tear of the clutch plates. This stuff is roaming around my mind, help me🥴.
Why does that need a video? A quickshifter reduces the time the system is unloaded so that shifts happen faster. You'd do the exact same thing when you make a clutches upshift (safe on sequential transmissions) but you would take longer. A quickshifter should not wear your clutch out faster, it might even lengthen their life
@@motorinc thanks now I can sleep peacefully. Actually I want to cover it as a question in some qna maybe in near future. But thanks 🤩
@@motorinc just out of curiosity how much static and rider sag would you recommend for indian road conditions? Also is it worth setting sag for road use only?
So far the only channel i found that gives honest opinions to the customers . Ur harsh sometimes to many but that what we need to be frank 😄 to knkw the truth .. not the paid promotion
The Friends refrence made me chuckle with joy! 😄 RIP Miss Chanandler Bong...
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The soundtrack ❤🔥
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Why there is no review of Honda CB 350. Can we have one
ek 'cutting' alag si.
New sound in the background is refreshing.
🤜🏽🤛🏽 Thanks Uday!
Saw the Apache version in black, it looks great.
Waiting for other Harley Davidson , Ducati , Benelli and Keeway bike reviews.
Requests noted Rohan!
i own a 310 GS, Its been 5 years now and 40k kms and i love it in traffic and i love it on the highway. Its a sweet bike. Though i cannot say the same for the price and official service cost (actually its diametrically opposite and horrendous).
Same here dude, riding on Indian roads is like off road lol, I enjoy the bike in city highways everywhere, considering service is at 10k kms I think it's fine, but the 3rd service is going to be a bomb
Glad you are enjoying your GS' Lokesh and Syed!
Finally someone addressed major issues on this bike while others are still talking about how the way its exhaust looks.
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I own an Apache RR310 and definitely points mentioned here are accurate .. the engine is vibey but i got used to it and man i love this machine 😍
Also, i am very lucky to have got a good TVS dealership and the servicr guy has also become my friends so gives proper advices and knows really well on how this machine behaves!
I have toured a lot on this bike .. and clocked around 20k in 1 year.. solo rides are absolutely fun with little luggage .. pillion rides are tiring but proper stops makes it comfortable and easy.
Average service costs around 2-2.5k . I love this bike since this has been my dream bike and because of shumi i have learned many new things ❤
Awesome! Please do name and credit the dealer here if you can Ankur! There's too many complaints with TVS Service and that means every dealer who's doing a good job needs their name to be more public!
@@motorinc yes ofcourse!
Dealer: Isofine TVS, Ambala.
What a production
My brother n uncles ❤
Do a similar 'Should you buy one' about Himalayan 450
As i grow in my career, i wish to adopt shumi's clarity and confidence in speaking. If this man says the earth spins around the moon, id believe him.
🤜🏽🤛🏽 Best of luck!
Was waiting for this! Thank you motorinc ❤❤❤
Hope you enjoyed it Daksh!
I really did. It makes sense that the bike itself is NOT a good value for money proposition, but it looks just so darn good. Against better judgement, I am actually thinking of purchasing one second hand. A test ride along with a compare with RC390 would be in order. @motorinc your thoughts?
Always a test ride before you have intrusive thoughts for sure!
Another awesome review MotorInc 👌🏻
Audio engineering was insanely good in the first minute and a half but I heard some echos over voiceover later, idk if they were sound effects or bad sound proofing of room, but they didn't sound nice either way.
Thanks for the feedback - let us recheck this, Shaurya
crips n sharp presentation. looking fwd for more such videos.
More to come! Thanks Santhosh!
cut we are done - best line
Hai, couple of videos ago I had asked you guys to review the RR. Thankyou so much, I own the first gen, it's still an emotional attachment than a practical choice and in someways it feels good to see your review on the bike. Thankyou so much again. Might I add TVS is actually selling fewer of RR than BMW because of the brand value. I would love to see the new aluminium sub frame on the RR, which given the time and money I'm considering myself (for the looks). The vibrations are all there is, but I forget them as soon as I'm in the traffic and people look at it like a superbike. Much love to you guys, I sure appreciate your honesty and you've made a point that bike reviews don't generally need gopros and wind noise.
Hey Sreehari! Do you have a source for the sales data? Glad you're enjoying your ride and that you love MotorInc!
@@motorinc the showroom itself said so, and the trend with this bike was such, everyone was so set on changing logos, slapping on stickers and convert it into a "bmw bike" way before bmw even launched it. Then there were people within the community itself who sold their RR to buy 310RR. My question is was it an upgrade or a downgrade?🤣 There were cases of BMW charging their customers a premium service cost of about 10k which then later cleared out as some extra thing customer opted for like coating polishing or something. Atleast that's what they claim.🤭
Guys if you made short videos series on bike maintenance, wheel alignment, suspension adjustment, lever adjustment, cause and effect ( ex low tire pressure what u feel? Bike pulls to right a bit what's the cause etc) would be awesome.
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As a former owner of TVS second Apache RTR 180 back home in India, I'd say TVS needs to brush their after sales followed by bringing refinement to this engine. Power is still usable for people not wanting a powerful 40 bhp motorcycle.
The tech, tyres and features that Apache RR310 offers under BTO will always triumph the BMW if badge is what you are not chasing. But I agree, at a standstill and parked state, the white beamer looks pretty than the TVS product. Hopefully they fix these minor ones with the new upgrade to RR310 due soon this year. 🤞
Good points Chris! The aftersales things is spot on. TVS is the brand we keep hearing the most complaints about when it comes to service for sure
No updates from long ago
Why sir
Any updates in 2024 or 2024 rr310 again launch new model
The german accent 💀💀 nein
Ja 😊
@@motorinc alles gut🤗
Love your video guys, 👍 👍. R u planning to review the new ns series from bajaj? Just eager to hear your take on those bikes.
Yes, soon!
Well i own an TVS Apache 310 RR and all the points mentioned are true ...more than features ..this bike needs a smoother and refined engine ...my friend owns a R15 and my ohh my is its engine smooth AF...lets hope they update the engine's bike
Ok I Own this bike, so hard to digest the feedback, but whoever reads this comment all the information is true, they missed out ratttling noise, I think he wore a helmet while test riding the bike, but the good stuff you are always in control while riding the bike, yes power delivery is confusing may be the modes switch confuses itself, but the confidence on riding the bike is always high, it stops good, revs bad but once you are in 100 - 120 kms man you will love it.
Excellent intro. Pretty well played with Make it Better?
Shumi's roasting shines more than
Bengaluru Motor Works paint quality ❤️❤️
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As Usual Great Video and nicely presented by Shumi Sir. Small feedback I felt that the audio had a weird reverb to it which made it sound little odd. Otherwise great production as always 🙂
Thanks for the feedback, thepirofreak! We'll pass it on to the team
TVS "EXCELS" in handling. Ooooo I see what you did there😉
That was unintentional. They really do make some great handling machines!
Thanks for covering these motorcycles, Motorinc. The G 310 RR is quite desirable due to its badge and the price. But its TVS counterpart decimates that feeling of exclusivity, for me at least.
Thanks for sharing your perspective Ishaan!
Its great mentioning him like that❤......Chandler😊 🙏 Rip
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Another masterpiece, nothing but respect for the TVS-BMW alliance!
Thanks Shiva!
"Cut, we're done!" that was personal...
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Superb production quality
I always thought the 310rr was designed heavily inspired by the panigale. And when Shumi said ‘Italian’ it was official 😂.
But what was surprising it was claimed by a German parent 😮
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Dear @motorinc team when you guys are uploading the road ride review of Aprilia RS 457, and what's your thoughts on CF Moto SR/SS 450 ? Love yours content too, the only channel I can listen for an hour 👍
Hey Mitonbike! No test bikes yet so no timelines yet either. No opinion on CF 450s. They don't sell them in here ergo they're irrelevant.
Dear Shumi & Team, you must have spent time & efforts to study in details on these both BMW 310RR & TVS. But I want to understand why BMW does that? To be in good books of TVS?
Or sharing the platforms as per the agreements.
There is a lot more insider information with lot more differences in the Engineering process for both the bikes which is not to be disclosed either by the BMW or TVS but the engineering team is dedicated to designing of the engine. The second version of the 310cc engine is great.
There is still some disconnect that makes these bikes different which we are not aware or we are masked off that still needs to be uncovered.
Anyways a good vlog 💐
Why a brand does what it does is far harder to unravel. The platform sharing was to build a younger audience and TVS is an astute choice of partner for sure. If anything, BMW isn't using TVS' skills well enough. And from what we've seen the original effort towards making sure BMW and TVS had different bikes slowly reduced. At the G 310 RR there basically isn't any.
@@motorinc TVS is aggressive in releasing new features and bringing changes into the market whereas Germans do not, I was a part of German Automotive company into Automotive domain, any changes they made goes into rigorous tests so the customer doesn’t face any problems, there are set of stringent procedures followed and need to pass their norms. Hence you get less changes perfection is the focus.
I agree it’s luring to see TVS’s products are more attractive in features and what they have to offer.
Since the other partner being slower and the TVS parent is stalled.
I agree to your point as well, we need to see significant differences in the bikes, like G310GS went global, TVS didn’t make a Adv out of it
Thanks for sharing your perspective as usual AT!
@@motorincThe pleasure is all mine ! Kudos to the Motorinc team - Its good to interact with you folks 🙂
I guess your Video was also like the BMW s work The Voice was A bit Eco ing in the background but ya it was nice seeing some experiments with the background and a new room I guess
Video was great & Informative Thanks
Thanks for your feedback.
I literally get excited when you guys upload a new motorcycle video. Love your style! Love from Bangladesh ❤️
Glad you like them! Thanks Iram!
You replied! Yay! I didn't check the youtube notifications. Yay!
Shumi, I watch your videos before going to give a presentation. You have the best presentation skill I have ever seen! ❤️
Thank you very much Iram!
your editing guy kills it
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Really waiting for the CB300R review now. I'm having trouble deciding between the new Duke 250 and the CB 300R.
Thank You :)
Gracefully explained. BTW scrolling through some old reddit threads I found out that Motorinc gets a lot of hate from Dominar and CB350 owners saying that Shumi doesn't realise the potential these bikes have, so I would really appreciate if the admin let us know what opinion the team has on those bikes (or through a video maybe?).
D400 and HCB350s are two bikes that we just cannot recommend. They're not good enough. Videos when we can get to it, leywin.
@@motorinc Thank you for getting back to me! Waiting for the in-depth explanation VERY patiently!
Will be sure to highlight the 2 and half actual differences 😂🤣
Oooo yes yes yes , I was waiting for this for so long
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That "cut" caught me off-guard 😆
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Bier library is pretty good. Bengaluru motor works G310R isn't
Thanks for letting us know! 😊
The kardashians reference was gold!!!!!!!!
Love the bgm and eeit
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
Really waiting for your reviews on RTR 310
BMW FABRICAN CHULADAS DE MOTOCICLETAS Y AUTOS 🔥🔥😈
Btw, just fyi, it ain't a "propeller". Love your videos and the way you guys make it 🙏🙌
True! But BMW's great ad campaign created that enduring association ~90 years ago!
Only GS and Naked 310 are worth the money. Comfort and suspension is superb and cannot be compared to any other bike in that segment.
Thanks for sharing your perspective patil1811!
Great review as always. The audio however has hissing sound tone. So it’s harsh sometimes. Please take a look!
We will check it out! Thank you!
Thanks for the very well targeted video, I respect it when u2b'ers discuss the problems in this much honesty.
Just aside, I wished in the video you call the models as BMW or TVS all the time instead of "310" and "RR" badges... that's freaking confusing to follow )))) luckily they have most of the time similar features )))
Don't get confused at all! They are exactly the same bike!
It all makes a lot of sense now.
I always wondered why BMW never do its trade shows in Tech park or have showroom near IT park. KTM, Honda does all the time.
BMW showroom here in Bangalore is in Lavelle Road. This is the poshest colony in Bangalore, where old rich folks or people who made money in early 90's stays here. people in their 50's grouping and riding Harley and BMW.
BMW has no intention to sell to us, Their target is the aging rich old guys who have been riding bmw's, That is why service cost is also high because for these people its a pocket change.
Save this beauty before it gets discontinued 😢
From who?
Hi motorinc folks. I have been planning on buying a 125 cc bike. My options are raider, sp 125, ns 125 and pulsar 125. Plz make a video on that.I reckon people are gonna watch it.😲
I thought the screen on my phone has turned yellow but it was just the video 😅 Usually it's pure white background I think it could be some editing issue but nice video regardless! ❤
The colour is very much intentional, Ashish
German Brands should listen to Shumi, finding a new customer base will be critical. Japanese brands have realised this and slowly started moving to offer slightly better products.
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Like the FZ-X you mean ? 😂
Really bro😂 I don't think they listened at all.
Suzuki, honda isn't releasing their hero products(smaller cc more bhp) here. Yamaha screwed in price game.(r3 and mt03). One mt15, r15 or cb300r isn't justifying what u r saying.
Waiting for BMW GS310 video❤❤
Waiting for video on 310GS 2024 edition.
they have a perfect chassis, awesome design , great proportions too!! lacks the aggressiveness of bigger sibling and is pricey too.😊😊
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@@motorinc and yes a 450cc parallel twin would have been phenomenal😎
Please make a video on ktm rc 390 fir i have been waiting for it from a very long time cause i very trust you reviews
Good for 5'6 ?
Perfect timing
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Funny thing is BMW charges more money for less equipment compared to the TVS but of the two BMW sells more G310RRs only due to the badge value, even my cousin bought one for the badge recently over the RTR310 I suggested😂
Also can you do a video on the Pulsar NS200 as it recently became 2024 bike pleeeeeeaaseee😁
Can you please point us to the source of this data please?
I read it in some article online also I don't count this a metric but I haven't seen an Apache RR310 in my life but did see a couple G310s
Hi motorinc,
Thank you for this wonderful video. I want to upgrade from my 2014 re classic 350 to something lighter with more power, performance and comfort.. could you suggest a few options available in the market or soon will be available in India that can be a good commuter asa well as can take on some decent highway miles for my semi annual long distance rides.
Love your work,
Keep up the good work.
Love,
Rajat
I came to know that KTM RC 200 has come with new color options in their 2024 varient. Is there any other significant difference apart from the color scheme in the machine?
No there isn't Shailendra. The next big update will be when you hear that the 2024 Duke chassis has become the base for the updated RC.
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austrian painter wants to know your location...🤣😂
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HI MOTORINC great video as always cant go wrong with you guys lol XD but i feel a pulsar fared 400 is all we need for this segment any idea when they will be around ??
No word yet phdtalks. But it should be in the April-June window we believe.