Native American Hardwoods for Traditional Banjo Building
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Clifton Hicks discusses Native American Hardwoods for Traditional Banjo Building
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Oldtime banjo close ups and demonstrations of overhand, clawhammer, two finger, thumb lead, 2 finger, frailing and stroke styles plus traditional southern Appalachian mountain hoedown and early minstrel show techniques. History, anthropology, folklore, research and musicology including breakdowns, blues, waltz pieces, tin pan alley, some Afro-Caribbean and West African history, occasional Cajun and zydeco references, also Métis, Creole, Melungeon and indigenous North American music traditions. Mountain music, southern culture. George Gibson, Ernie Williams, Cousin Emmy, Dock Boggs, Rufus Crisp, Virgil Anderson, Lily May Ledford, Roscoe Holcomb, Tab Ward, Frank Proffitt, Tommy Jarrell, Kyle Creed, Lee Sexton, Morgan Sexton, Lead Belly, Pete Steele, Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, JD Crowe, Clarence Ashley, Fred Cockerham, Dwight Diller, Gaither Carlton, John Snipes, Dink Roberts, Clifford Essex, Joe Sweeney, Archibald Ferguson, Dan Emmett, John Hartford, Picayune Butler, Gus Cannon, Art Rosenbaum, Grandpa Jones, Snuffy Jenkins, Buell Kazee, Bascam Lamar Lunsford, Uncle Dave Macon, Tommy Makem, Luke Kelly, Charlie Poole, Ola Belle Reed, BF Shelton, Hobart Smith, Samantha Bumgarner, Peggy Seeger, Mike Seeger, Jean Ritchie, Ralph Stanley, Odell Thompson, Wade Ward, Hedy West, Fred McDowell, Uncle Homer Walker, Mississippi John Hurt old time, folk, trad roots pickers songsters. #banjo #oldtimemusic #history Riley Baugus, Dirk Powell, Gillian Welch, Maybelle Carter Family. Morgan Sexton, Black Banjo Songsters, Lee Sexton, Clyde Troxell, Blanche Coldiron, Banjo Bill Cornett. 
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Hi Clifton, I'm about to make my first mountain banjo neck. I know necks can be made from solid wood or from multiple laminated pieces for added strength. If I make a neck from solid wood (hard maple), is it likely to twist up fast due to the tension? How well have the solid necks lasted on your mountain banjos?
Sam, it's all about selecting the wood based on the way it was cut, and the shape of the grain. It's difficult to explain in a RUclips comment, but a neck made from quarter-sawn, straight-grained hardwood, with little or no run-out, will almost never warp significantly. If you look up the terms, "quarter sawn," "straight grained," and "run out," you'll quickly figure out the basics of selecting wood.
Thanks @@CliftonHicksbanjo, that's really useful. I'll have a read about it
I've never used it but I recently learned that persimmon is a true ebony. The sap wood is light in color, but hard and durable. The Heartwood is jet-black but very very narrow
This is what I came here to say! Persimmon is often referred to as “American ebony!” Super dense stuff!
They’ve been mentioned, but Osage and Black Locust are both extremely dense native hardwoods that are also quite beautiful. They’re both cantankerous woods that can be difficult to find in clear straight sections but I’d imagine they’d work great for all your pegs,pins, tailpieces etc. You generally don’t find them in a lumberyard but you’ll find them on your fence line!.. And if you’re talking steam bending Osage all day
For mountain banjos, I make the tone rings out of wood that I bend myself, which gives me a lot of freedom to experiment with how that affects tone. I find that the bridge and that tone ring (again for mountain banjos) are almost entirely where my tone is coming from as far as the wooden parts are concerned. Beyond type of wood the tone ring thickness and width (width translating to pot depth) have an effect as well. Thanks for the video, sir.
Thanks so much for this. Very helpful!
Really interesting advice - Thankyou so much 🪕🇬🇧
Appreciate all your helpful videos. Walnuts a favourite lumber of mine.
Love it, love your channel . ☮️
Thank you so much. That's quite a breakdown.
Thank you
I fond it very helpful
I play an old belltone popular long neck banjo. Enjoyed the video
i love that hat!
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Thanks for all the wonderful advice. I don’t know if your part of the country is being over run with buckthorn but here in NY it’s everywhere. I know people make bows out of them if they can find a piece that will work I was thinking it might work really good for a banjo neck. It’s real pretty wood and very very strong. Also what do you think about Osage orange? That might make pretty bingo neck too. Another good bow wood, strong.
how about osage orange ? Its pretty, and hard as a rock ! Should fill some of those spots. What do ya think,Clifton?
"No shit y'all." ;-) Keep these coming!
I’m surprised that dogwood isn’t used as a local substitute for ebony. Is it too difficult to work or brittle?
I having trouble trying to figure out how to make tuning pegs I have a lathe and I have some walnut a some box maple and will metal strings work with these woods ❓❓❓thanks in advance ☺️
I'm building one out of Alder with an oak neck. In one of your other videos I saw you used a dowl through the neck and body. Is that nessary? Thanks. Great info on different woods.
Dowel is traditional but not necessary.
I really starting to like the real mountain music
I'm also having trouble figuring out the tapered holes I have a tapered reamer goes from 1/4 inch to a 1/2 inch any suggestions please ❓❓
Apple is ideal for tuning pegs 😁
What about Black Locust for neck and hoop? It’s harder and more durable than oak.
Locust would do it. Patrick Sawyer (owner of Pisgah Banjo Company) actually started out using locust for his fingerboards. He switched to persimmon as it's got a denser grain, and is actually a true ebony. Anyhow, locust works great, especially for small pieces like bridge, nut, tailpiece, and fingerboard which aught to be super hard.
The only reason I favor red oak for hoops is that it has superior tonal qualities. The woodgrain of red oak, specifically, is actually continuously hollow from one end of the tree to the other, therefore, I am convinced that this is why it sounds amazing as a sound chamber wood.
When you say poplar, do you mean common poplars or tulip poplars? I have access to a great mighty tulip poplar that fell this past season and we've cut it up, been looking to do something useful with it! Do you have any advice on it as a neck or a pot?
Tulip poplar, yellow poplar.
Is there a difference in hardness between "black walnut," and just plain "walnut?" I've got a hunk of walnut lying around, and while the banjo I'm making is cherry, and I could use it for the small parts (pegs, tailpiece, etc.) I thought it might be cool to have a different color of wood in the mix. Also, you mention bone or antler for making nuts--what do you cut and file those with?
If there is, the difference is very slight.
Is Cedar any good for a banjo pot?
Cedar is in the category with pine as a softwood. The banjo will sound better if made from hardwood; however, many antique folk banjos are made of pine.
What about wormy chestnut?
Sure, you could use it.
I want to see Copper...
Safarass is our white ebony….. I’m in Georgia
Persimmon is also considered ebony, although I've never seen a persimmon tree thicker than my leg.
What about redwood?
It is hard to work with and splinters. It’s hard. But I don’t think it’s hard enough. And when using hand tools you can have a lot of tear out if you aren’t careful.
I use deer antler for briges and nuts
Great material and of course much harder than bone. I have used it also but find bone somewhat easier to carve.
Mahogany for the neck.
My grandfather have fixed a lot of banjos that were dropped on the ground and broke their neck. Those with mahogany almost exploded, where maple just kinda cracked and was easy to fix. So I wouldn't go for mahogany.
@@sofusrnstruppilehave8179 Not native to here either.
Are Banjos Native American all together?I mean I know they say it from Africa but are some African Americans ,Native Aboriginals?food for thought
The banjo is an American instrument with a unique combination of African and European traits. It's skin sound table, short thumb string, and "full spike" neck (meaning the neck extends entirely through the sound chamber) are African traits. It's fingerboard, tuning pegs, nut, tail piece are European traits. And of course all of its metal hardware, resonators, etc. are uniquely American.
@@CliftonHicksbanjo thank u for your wisdom sir
dogwood!