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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @aranara_song
    @aranara_song 4 года назад +791

    Honestly the only character who needs character development is us literally. I know they said that they'll update the characters, but personally I think it should be one of the major goals for 2020

    • @tikki_kiki947
      @tikki_kiki947 4 года назад +8

      They had a spoiler/hint on instagram saying they hope to have players updated by sometime this 2020.

    • @missqueen20_
      @missqueen20_ 4 года назад +8

      @@tikki_kiki947 no, they told someone on a comment that it's so complex to make and they think that it will be updated on 2021

    • @TheGoldenRosie
      @TheGoldenRosie 4 года назад +5

      Queen omg that’s forever away

    • @chip197
      @chip197 4 года назад +2

      U just have to be paitent. I know u want them updated but I’m sure
      They will do it 🥰

    • @Pixemie
      @Pixemie 4 года назад

      Same >:(

  • @PetDKK
    @PetDKK 4 года назад +509

    Our characters look so weird besides the beautiful updated Soul riders 😂❤️

    • @esmeraldaseagren5549
      @esmeraldaseagren5549 4 года назад +12

      They said they are updating our characters :)

    • @allisonp.7561
      @allisonp.7561 4 года назад +11

      I'm excited, they've mentioned that our characters will get new skin colors, body sizes, etc. So don't worry, soon we will be pretty too. : )

    • @johanwillman8595
      @johanwillman8595 4 года назад

      XD

    • @esmeraldaseagren5549
      @esmeraldaseagren5549 4 года назад +1

      @@allisonp.7561 It's not comming soon. probably over a year or longer

    • @allisonp.7561
      @allisonp.7561 4 года назад +1

      @@esmeraldaseagren5549 I am aware of that. What I meant by soon is that our characters will be updated someday.

  • @soph_f16
    @soph_f16 4 года назад +387

    I still think that our characters should get updated too 🥺😭

    • @greettat3453
      @greettat3453 4 года назад +21

      Definitely, I hope they will update our characters too in within at least three years, our characters has not even facial animations or expressions. Also I would love to have as an option to choose different style of bodies ❤️

    • @TheCruzWolf
      @TheCruzWolf 4 года назад +1

      ye XD

    • @milliewhite8418
      @milliewhite8418 4 года назад +14

      I agree but it's a big task. You would have to change all the clothes,hair, animations etc. But I think it's worth it just will take time to do for all we know they could be working on it.

    • @HakunaMatataValorant
      @HakunaMatataValorant 4 года назад +5

      They're gonna be! ;)

    • @gracellynallen5001
      @gracellynallen5001 4 года назад +3

      Shining flowers they are working on it!

  • @justapotato1176
    @justapotato1176 4 года назад +259

    Our character is a flat character...cool our personality actually matches our model. Soulless.

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +42

      they're gonna update that too at some point, but I think that's one of the last things they update because they have to update all the hairstyles and clothes and animations and everything along with it, as well as to make a lot of different custumization options

    • @-ix-3152
      @-ix-3152 4 года назад +15

      @@eleanornightwalker it's just a shame that they didn't start working on it much sooner

    • @mirowhzo5750
      @mirowhzo5750 4 года назад +6

      Eleanor Nightwalker nononono... I hope we can choose to be flat or no I’m not gonna run around whit big jiggling anime t!7s

    • @ok5810
      @ok5810 4 года назад +3

      Yeah... Though don't get me wrong I kind of dont want them updated. Like the game would feel completely different to me

    • @maybelleseabrooke2117
      @maybelleseabrooke2117 4 года назад +3

      At least were flat xD

  • @thefaceofdestiny5757
    @thefaceofdestiny5757 4 года назад +441

    I as well kinda dislike how the sso team takes any "mean" character and turns them good. Like with Loretta or Anne. I wish they'd stayed with the old Anne and would make her develop better personality in the process of the story, it would make her much more likable for me.
    With Lisa... I get the skin colour. She's from Texas, of course she'll be more tan than others. :D Also I think the rock music made her seem too rebellious, and since Alex is now the rebellious one, they had to make Lisa different. She seems softer and more emotional, still felling deep pain inside her.
    Overall I feel like SST is making the characters more relatable to the players. Alex is the one with bad family, Anne is living up to her parents dreams, Lisa had traumatic loss and Linda is nerdy fangirl. Also now we have Catherine - the lonely, socially awkward girl that no one likes.
    I'm not sure if all this was a good thing. I personally don't care about relating to any of these, but I see younger girls finding themselves in them and feeling powerful and like they have someone who gets them, which is what the whole game is about. fEmaLe HeRoIsM xd

    • @tishaprnucedteasha
      @tishaprnucedteasha 4 года назад +14

      Also Lisa's mum is mexican

    • @DogDogGodFog
      @DogDogGodFog 4 года назад +15

      @@tishaprnucedteasha *was

    • @tishaprnucedteasha
      @tishaprnucedteasha 4 года назад +8

      @@DogDogGodFog ouch

    • @seabiscuit7116
      @seabiscuit7116 4 года назад +19

      I don't think Linda is a "nerdy fangirl" I think she's a book worm and dreamer 📖

    • @queenperrytheplatypus458
      @queenperrytheplatypus458 4 года назад +33

      Finally someone who sees it like I do! I really wish they had Anne be a bit more on the pretty, popular mean-ish girl. Maybe not completely mean, but a bit more vain. It would make Anne a bit... less Mary Sue you could say. I’m not saying that she is, but I feel like her being the rich, popular, beautiful girl who can get anything she wants but is also is really nice and loved by all but the villains is a bit Mary Sue to me. Even with the villains taking her. I feel like if she was a bit more on the vain side, then she’d be a bit more human. THEN she could develop on becoming a bit less self prideful and more modest.

  • @annaclara7473
    @annaclara7473 4 года назад +103

    gosh i really miss the old lisa and anne...tbh i would love the new lisa if only she wasn't supposed to be...lisa. if it was a whole new character i would adore her, but it feels like they robbed her of her iconic design and personality. also, i wish they were more straightforward about anne being mean... i mean, since she's always strived for perfection, its only natural that she would be mean and overly critical. it ties into a big part of her character to me

    • @R4diumCat
      @R4diumCat 3 года назад +4

      for real, that's just not Lisa anymore

  • @ghosty4654
    @ghosty4654 4 года назад +149

    I agree with giving Lisa a 3 because she does look and is SOOOOOOOO different from before, what happened to the rock star Lisa? She changed to some country chick.

    • @ghosty4654
      @ghosty4654 4 года назад

      @Ash ????

    • @rottenzombiewolf
      @rottenzombiewolf 4 года назад +13

      honestly same goes for starshine. they look both nice but they dont feel anymore like before

    • @nowhyisuck6666
      @nowhyisuck6666 4 года назад +1

      Maybe she just had a huge hit of puberty and decided to take on country music and as she got older she was less edgy or idk

  • @kokoromomoiro387
    @kokoromomoiro387 4 года назад +221

    I feel like Linda and Anne are so underrated. 🥺

  • @liaavv_4959
    @liaavv_4959 4 года назад +116

    I don't get why they made Lisa's songs like they are, she was clearly a rock star.. I also wish they didn't completely change them. Like they could have made the old outfits prettier and more of today's fashion but I wish we could still see the some of the old outfit, does anyone get what I mean?? Also I really miss Starshine's mane, it was special, just like all of the horses but now they are "normal".

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +21

      I'm personally okay with them changing the outfits as long as it still reflects who they are, but the way I see it they have failed to do so with Lisa and (partly) Linda. Lisa was straight up robbed while Linda just kinda feels off to me...

    • @chappy918
      @chappy918 4 года назад

      With Lisa´s history i didn´t really understand why she ever was like that, like a rockstar and no emotions really. Her backstory is nowvmatching her appearance i think

    • @blanca4101
      @blanca4101 4 года назад +2

      @@chappy918 play the old games to understand

    • @chappy918
      @chappy918 4 года назад

      @@blanca4101 haha i played it all :DD

  • @winterfromwisthollow
    @winterfromwisthollow 3 года назад +18

    I saw an analysis about Anne on tumblr. It was about how she is vain and self-obsessed but she is also a good friend who is always there for the other soul riders, and how playing down her vanity and taking away her confidence weakens her character, because so what if a girl is like that? So what if she looks good and she knows it?

    • @annakovach7334
      @annakovach7334 3 года назад

      Finally someone said it! Totally agree with that.

  • @pandora8427
    @pandora8427 4 года назад +78

    I’m not sure if I’m the only one but. I feel like the story at times treats our character like an extra. And I know they are new to the soul riders but they made it a big deal that we had the powers and were important yet they only focus on the main 4 and we are just someone who do most of the dirty work. This may be a unpopular opinion but I feel like our characters should get more appreciation and stuff. Cuz the story was based around a new girl coming in and having these amazing abilities but there are times where the soul riders bond and use magic and leave our characters out of the moment. Might just be me tho.
    I also believe they changed Lisa way to much and it feels like she’s SSO favorite. I love her DONT get me wrong I relate to her so much and she was my favorite for a long time but I don’t like how they made her this new county girl. Nothing against it, it’s just not Lisa. Like the video said she was a rock star, I don’t know why they had to change that so much. I just don’t find Lisa as relatable as she used to be.

    • @aquamarina5216
      @aquamarina5216 2 года назад +4

      I know this comment is old, but you are right, I'm just experiencing the game, and with saving New Lisa it really shows "aww thanks for help, aren't you cute! Now out of my way kid I'll show you how REAL Soul Raiders do things." And when Sabine was talking about the legitimate perspective of us replacing Anne, I felt that although this was something Soul Raiders should consider, at lest for the time being when there is no way for us to safely rescue Anne, they never did. When you think about it they actually treat us just like Bobcats do, "You are an honorary member! Oh, you think we will treat you like part of the team? that's cute. You are just our a glorified errand girl.", only Bobcats have enough balls to tell this to us to our face, and Soul Raiders streacht up manipulate us "you are some, you are great, now do the dirty work for us". Not to mention Soul Raiders always rumble about how we are friends, but I don't feel this, I feel like they are friends, and I am an outsider at best, their handy little slave at worse. Is this the way the incarnation of Adeen supposed to be treated (yes, this is still canon to me dammit, also easy fix for having multiple characters being able to master all four circles, say that Adeen's soul was fragmented after some sort of battle, this would also explain how different "hosts" can be completely different people, sorta like us being different from Katheryn, and would still make us special, not some Joe-shmowe who was accidentally tangled into action, and just happened to be able to use all four circles, and now knows too much, so we have to keep her around) ? This makes me actually dislike those characters, and because I don't have any prevus attachment to than I don't feel bad for hating them.

  • @audreyeverett3301
    @audreyeverett3301 4 года назад +122

    They did Lisa dirty. I like her new character’s look but I wish they kept her old style and personality. She’s very mediocre and I feel like these girls should stand out and it’s okay if they’re misfits! They really softened her character and I think that’s really a shame. So what if new players are surprised by a punk rocker? It breaks down stereotypes and opens the door for acceptance. I also feel like some of her new songs could have been better.... they are pretty cheesy and come up at odd times. I feel like they should be more raw and acoustic! I genuinely enjoyed the miscreant’s music released on the app and I wish they could let Lisa make some similar styled tunes. Her music doesn’t even sound country (but if they do move to country sound in the future I pray it’s not country pop). Overall I think they were trying to increase variety in the soul rider group and distinguish Lisa from the miscreants, but making Lisa edgy and Alex a bit rebellious is not the same! They had key differences in their personalities and in their style and were totally different. Lisa has more of the put together and stand out style while Alex is just laid back and confidently herself.

    • @maybelleseabrooke2117
      @maybelleseabrooke2117 4 года назад

      I loved country Lisa

    • @quietcontraire
      @quietcontraire 3 года назад +3

      Yeah I'm with you here, the new Lisa has shocked and disappointed me. I didn't even know much of anything about Lisa in Starshine Legacy or Star Academy before playing SSO, besides the idea that she was an oddly nice, but partly stereotypical punk-rock gal. After the change, I wanted to know more about her, and after some research the message was clear that she tried to make a difference & spread love in the world with her music despite her appearance, which really put me into perspective of not judging a person by their looks if they truly meant well.
      Like the tom-boyish, confident, peaceful and chill until provoked Alex being fit for the Warrior role of a soul rider...
      Like nerdy, helpful, caring, wise, and encouraging Linda being fit for the Moon soul rider, the one who understands and remembers the past but still has hope for the future despite horrific visions...
      And like the slightly snobbish, vain, and prideful but still considerate, uplifting, and generally good-natured Anne, being fit for the Sun soul rider of Time and Space, who despite going through heck and back several times (Pandoria), still tries to stay in the present as the Anne who has not just seen nightmares or dreams beyond imagination (this is coming from SSL, I haven't came to the Anne quest in SSO yet so I may be wrong abt her bckstory)...
      But I digress;
      Seeing the new Lisa have a background of a country life and sticking with it just doesn't give off the same message, I think... Or if it's meant to, it's not as strong...meaningful...at least to me. In my opinion, she became de-characterized, gone for the classical country-girl trope...it's a bit too traditional for my liking. The old Lisa made sense; she was part of a team of unlikely friends and heroes, her passionate singing fit into her role as the soul rider of life and healing, since music practically livens people up; but now it just seems like the 3 soul riders, and another Josh :/

  • @inastudios7876
    @inastudios7876 4 года назад +74

    1:30 I just realised that the Deathly Hallows sign is hanging on the shelf!

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +25

      I realized that while I was editing too, and as a potterfan, I felt kinda starstruck xD

    • @nADZIEJA_2137
      @nADZIEJA_2137 4 года назад

      Same 😂

    • @meg3734
      @meg3734 4 года назад +15

      I can see Linda be a potterhead... like the second she finds out about magic that her head goes full Harry Potter mode. Oh gods that sounds amazing! #Potterheads

    • @frankie_airo
      @frankie_airo 4 года назад +1

      @@meg3734 i think that my pfp says a lot ab me ;)

    • @isabellepoutsma4050
      @isabellepoutsma4050 4 года назад

      Ina Studios, I realized it to!

  • @user-lt8og
    @user-lt8og 4 года назад +50

    I do not like how SSO took some of the "meaner" characters and made them "nice" like Loretta for example. Although, I really do like the new Lisa, Anne, Linda, and Alex models.

  • @xoderota
    @xoderota 4 года назад +9

    My thoughts on them:
    Linda - I liked her before, she was probably my favorite one, I always liked serious characters. But I don't mind her being a dreamer either? And I like her new body type too, maybe we'll get to change our body type too.
    Alex - she was probably my second favorite and I'm glad they didn't change her that much, also I love her shirt.
    Anne - maybe an unpopular opinion, but I love her new version. I agree that she should have a slower development, it would definitely be more interesting, but if they want to just change her completely, we can't do much about that... Also she's probably the most relatable for me now, so maybe I'm just biased...
    Lisa - I really didn't like her new version at first, but I think she kinda grew on me... I still miss her punk self though.

  • @Kay-bl5xt
    @Kay-bl5xt 4 года назад +80

    I am level 16 so I had to skip Anne, but I really agree with you on Lisa. Her skin tone change and Eyecolor change and the whole music and the style were really bad for her character. I think that it was weird to change her that much. Even if these changes were made we can still disagree. This video is great btw ヽ(✿゚▽゚)ノ

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +13

      my god, I didn't think about spoilers! 😬😬 good thing you had the willpower to skip that part and hope you didn't get spoiled in other ways 🙊🙊

    • @thefaceofdestiny5757
      @thefaceofdestiny5757 4 года назад +8

      why would the change of eye and skin colour be "bad" for a character? this is such a minor thing no one even cares about xd

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +14

      @@thefaceofdestiny5757 because you don't just wake up one day with a different eye and skin color. The team actively decided to make these changes to her appearance, and I really don't see why it was necessary. It would be fine if they addressed it or if she was like that all along, but Lisa became a completely different person overnight. She's not a bad character or anything, it just doesn't add up to the storyline we've been following for the past 15 years, which is off-putting to some people

    • @thefaceofdestiny5757
      @thefaceofdestiny5757 4 года назад +8

      @@eleanornightwalker Well, the lore in Starshine Legacy is officially not canon anymore, so... That's why there are the Soul Riders books - there are basically about the same things as SL, but changed so the story would add up to SSO. The old characters as we know them are gone, sadly. But it's fair since they want the story to be more up to date I guess..

    • @Kay-bl5xt
      @Kay-bl5xt 4 года назад +1

      @@eleanornightwalker Agreed

  • @aileenn8590
    @aileenn8590 4 года назад +29

    So... i was trying to get over the changes, but Starshine legacy was my childhood. I replayed the games alot, even recently so I got attached to the old soul riders. When i found out that Starstable is continuing with this lore i was so happy. I've played SSO for 8 years so after they changed the soul riders my reaction wasn't good. In my opinion they don't feel like their own selves, even the horses. Overall they feel like completely different characters, looks like they switched the skin tones between Anne and Lisa lol, Anne used to be more tan in Starshine legacy and the personalities? I'm speechless... Well anyway i should probably get over it since it's their game and their story. It's just a bit sad for me to see the characters i grew up with get changed into something different.
    I can't even choose a favorite soul rider 'cause i dont like any of them, haha, ir used to be Linda and I looved Meteor. But this new Linda kind of acts like a weird fangirl.
    These are just my opinions, thanks for reading! ^^

  • @yumekoslefttoenail6746
    @yumekoslefttoenail6746 4 года назад +35

    The old Lisa definitely seems like the punk chick that at one of her concerts would DEFINITELY pull a cute fangirl up on stage during a guitar solo and make out while the crowd cheers
    I feel like they could’ve made her progress into this sort of country chick or keep two sides of her. Maybe we could have seen her still be this punk rock girl but at sad moments would have a regular guitar and sing said country songs, showing how she expresses her pain through music. Right now, Lisa is unlikeable and boring and I’m GLAD they shifted more of the leadership focus to Alex instead of Lisa.
    Also. Alex and Anne totally make the cutest couple ever, and it’d be really neat to show how they’d complete each other
    For example, Alex is totally butch and totally works out and has nothing to prove to anybody. Anne however is a total lipstick lesbian who feels like she needs to be perfect to everyone. If they started dating it would A. Be REALLY good representation for the LGBT community, and B. Alex could become a safe space for Anne and Anne could learn that she doesn’t need to prove herself to anyone and it’d be really just a sweet character dynamic.

    • @esterrrrr
      @esterrrrr 2 года назад +1

      I was worried that I was the only one who ships Alex and Anne! It feels like everyone ships Alex and Maya, but Alex and Anne is sooo much better!

    • @yumekoslefttoenail6746
      @yumekoslefttoenail6746 2 года назад

      @@esterrrrr where did u come from i wrote this when i still identified as a lesbian (im now a trans man lol )

    • @esterrrrr
      @esterrrrr 2 года назад

      @@yumekoslefttoenail6746 how do u mean? I'm lesbian btw

  • @eva1585
    @eva1585 4 года назад +21

    I just wish they kept the old outfits and hair but just updated to fit with the artstyle of the game. Also really disappointing about them having good things to say about Anne. Wish they kept the old story and it would've been way more interesting to hear how Lisa and Anne became friends after Anne was mean to her through Starshine Legacy. I could pretty much only recognise them after being told it was them. Green suited Linda so well, loved Alex's old baggy pants and layered shirts and Lisa's flaming red spikey hair was iconic for her. I dont mind Linda's new bodytype or the effect Pandoria had on Anne but overall it felt short.
    I dont mind the horses too much, personally i love Meteor's little beard (makes him feel old and wise which makes him feel like Linda's horse). I agree that Tin-Can's hair could be messier and Concorde suddenly changing gender when it was supposed to be a BROTHERHOOD makes no sense.
    Alot of this could be nostalgia talking but i felt let down by the changes (except for the addition of Alex working out).
    Next i wish they'd update the player to fit the other models a little better instead of adding new horse-breeds every 5 minutes. I appreciate their work but its too often in my eyes, you never have time to save up enough sc before 5 new breeds are out.

  • @vex8713
    @vex8713 4 года назад +7

    I agree about Lisa! I adored Lisa's old style! It was perfect punk/rock. Her new style really does feel foreign

  • @aviscze8505
    @aviscze8505 4 года назад +45

    I love the new concorde :3 They said she was born a female, which could have something to do with Pandoria since we got to know that Concorde was kinda stuck in Pandoria when she was in Ydris' circus. Plus the horse whisperer said that it is really rare for Concorde to be born a female again but it is something that has happen before.

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +10

      interesting... that really does make it sound like they have a plan for her in the future.. I don't believe the gender has ever been discussed before this happened 🤔 really wanting to look into this now 😅

    • @Istilllikecheese
      @Istilllikecheese 4 года назад

      I was watching a violet flowergarden of last years summer and it was anne,lisa,Linda and Alex all new ones at the beach and Concorde is swimmin

    • @emilycoldlock9438
      @emilycoldlock9438 3 года назад

      Horse wisperer girl is named Rhiannon she’s has the same name as me

  • @tomtenisse823
    @tomtenisse823 4 года назад +27

    Honestly I love the new look of the soul riders. Linda especially looks so cool and her room and overall style are amazing!
    Noo...I'm not crushing on her at all...🙃

  • @pollinsunmutsin6357
    @pollinsunmutsin6357 4 года назад +22

    ”And then theres Concorde. He’s a foal now.. and a mare.”😂

  • @maze3906
    @maze3906 4 года назад +14

    They completely ruined Alex....Alex was my favorite character in the old games. She was abit tomboyish but not "oh bro OMG lets go and kick some as, let me get into random trouble and act like I am super edgy, and just act before I think." She is just annoying to me now. She was tomboyish, but she did not talk like she had 0 braincells, ( like all tomboyish girls have to talk like some stupid edge lords...thanks sso)and she was a great responsible sister to James, and family were something that truly seemed important to her.
    Which also showed her responsible side and the fact that she had to grow up too fast due to her mother not being...well the greatest mother. As their mother mostly left the caring of James to Alex. Not to mention Alex NEVER show any sign of being irresposible or just throw herself into danger willy nilly. She is adventorous but there is a BIG difference in being rebellious and adventorous to just thinking hey lets go and kill myself or someone else without ANY FING REASON! Even if she is the most powerful soulrider she would never do what she did in sso, putting others in danger for her own selfish vendetta. If anything she would first and foremost make sure everyone is safe and to not make any rash decisions that would put everyone at risk. She would never dream of putting others or herself in danger for something as stupid as a vendetta risking herself and other peoples lives for NO reason at all.
    And they changed her soulpower...to lightning...lightning...LIGHTNING! She could take a persons soul out of their body! I mean that is beyond cool and creative in my opinion but no... they had to change it to lightning...To me that is so incredibly boring...Alex is a boring,braindead, childish, irresponsible and "edgy" and NOT the Alex that was...and I am so sad that I have come to hate one of my favorite characters growing up...
    Sorry for sounding so negative but I am really upset they changed her personality so much when nothing needed to be changed. The design for her is good though but that is the only positive thing I can really say....

  • @abcd7613
    @abcd7613 4 года назад +19

    Lisa's change is sad. They must've changed her from a punk to country girl because it's more appealing to young girls.

  • @meg3734
    @meg3734 4 года назад +21

    Honestly I don't really like the new Lisa. I used to think of her as this cool rock girl and now she is this country girl. That being said it could be that Lisa had that rebellion phase where she went from country to rock to country again after her Pandoria experience. People change I guess?
    Also I love the new Linda and Alex a lot! And Linda being a nerdy fangirl fits somehow... Well for me at least as a nerdy fangirl myself. Alex is really the only one that stayed true to her design and character which is why I love her.
    I can't really say anything for Anne because I didn't play Starshine legacy, so this is the only version I can go off but, I do think she is pretty snobby.

  • @magpie7938
    @magpie7938 4 года назад +7

    Loretta insults directly shaped my childhood and the game just doesn't feel as multidimensional without her meanness to balance out the overwhelming nice of our character. Does that make sense?

  • @merciczimbula619
    @merciczimbula619 4 года назад +26

    Okay but can we talk about how she is the best sso youtuber?

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +10

      Aw thank you 😍😍

    • @merciczimbula619
      @merciczimbula619 4 года назад +6

      Eleanor Nightwalker but really its visible how much work you put in a video ❤️ we really appreciate your work❤️❤️❤️

    • @emilycoldlock9438
      @emilycoldlock9438 3 года назад +1

      @@merciczimbula619 agreed

  • @Chaoticstormnerd
    @Chaoticstormnerd 4 года назад +5

    I love how you did Anne that voice makes it better

  • @laraclearwall9148
    @laraclearwall9148 4 года назад +22

    Alex is my favourite character by a mile! Love the video! 💖

  • @vampiricgraves
    @vampiricgraves 4 года назад +8

    I like the soul riders so far, but perhaps they could've kept Lisa a bit of a punk.
    ...I'm also sorry to say this (no I'm not) but uhhh- Justin also really needs an update because he's quite ugly.
    I said what I said.

  • @mirreelianavdv4346
    @mirreelianavdv4346 4 года назад +10

    I personally really like the new updated soul riders, I think these changes were for the best. I get why people have problems with it or miss the old soulriders. But we grow up and sso is changing and improving! And we gotta accept that it just can't always be the same as before

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +6

      I agree! I've gotten pretty used to the new soul riders by now and they're really good, but I sure will miss the old Lisa regardless 😅 I'm not sure if I will ever actually get over the original Lisa, but I know she's not coming back so there's no point in complaining about it. The new Lisa is good, she's just different
      I am working on some edits to see what she could have looked like though 🤔🤔

  • @gix.y
    @gix.y 4 года назад +2

    It is possible to be both a dreamer and a realist, I'm both of those things. I like to be aware of the reality of things and pure fact, but its fun to dive into fantasy and completely outlandish things sometimes. I think a ton of people can relate to me with this, so Linda's personality honestly isnt weird.

  • @everenrae9005
    @everenrae9005 2 года назад +2

    You know that trailer for sso that used to be on the websiste? I mean, the one where the legend of Aideen and such is introduced? I feel like the character designs in that trailer were so much better than we ended up getting. They looked up to date, while still remaining true to the story. I wish they had gone more in that direction. Something definitely happened to the story around 2020ish when they started completely changing everything.

  • @morg2040
    @morg2040 4 года назад +10

    i’m sorry but alex’s animations are hilarious

    • @toomanyblueberriesss
      @toomanyblueberriesss 4 года назад +2

      Alex’s talking animation looks like me when I am very out of breath lol

    • @molly702
      @molly702 3 года назад

      She constantly looks so mad for no reason it’s actually funny

  • @CadenceSilverforest
    @CadenceSilverforest 4 года назад +4

    For Linda, I feel like she can be a dreamer and a realist at the same time. I feel like the unicorns and other stuff is her hobbies, and her being a book worm is just her interest. It doesn’t really fit together. But great video!

  • @M1Y0
    @M1Y0 4 года назад +25

    I actually love new lisa 🥺 she’s so cool

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +17

      yes yes, if we only look at Lisa the way she is now, she is a pretty good character, and she's here to stay so you are definitely not in the wrong for loving her! ❤
      It's just that she's so different from who she was before, so her character development from the very beginning of the story (when she first arrived in Jorvik) is very off.. That's not an issue if you simply enjoy the game as it is now, but some older players and some who are interested in the whole story may find it off-putting 🤔

  • @isxbeledits
    @isxbeledits 4 года назад +3

    Personally, I love the new Lisa. She's really relatable to me as the songs that "she" has are amazing and hold so much emotion that help to give her character life. Also, I love her new appearance as the "palette" of her character is really warm? and just makes her seem warm and caring. I understand people can feel differently but I honestly think she's the best character now.

  • @mochimio
    @mochimio 4 года назад +7

    Linda is literally exactly like my best friend irl, even her nationality, so i connect to linda more than the others. i feel she isn’t given enough attention compared to the other three

  • @Alizeiii
    @Alizeiii 4 года назад +8

    I agree completely. I also wish (even though I know this isn’t even an option for them) they would add male main characters, too. I get it that maybe they think a boy wouldn’t fit with the soul riders that are all girls, but imo it would be cool. Just like they changed Concorde’s gender, why couldn’t main character be male? It is just very unfair that the gender can’t be chosen. It’s the best online horse game and I don’t see a reason why they made the choice to make it only a girl game.

    • @ven0mspark
      @ven0mspark 4 года назад +3

      THIS!! It kind of pissed me off how they could just change Concorde's gender despite it being a brotherhood with the excuse of mare soul horses being rare, but for whatever reason soul riders has to stay a sisterhood? Kinda weird in my opinion

  • @lunar_proxy
    @lunar_proxy 4 года назад +6

    i agree with a lot of this, honestly. especially lisa! it's not like i hate the new lisa, she's cool too, but she's just so vastly different from the lisa i know. and i don't mind anne becoming less of a mean girl, but i feel like it should be more of a process?
    but there is one mean girl i'm angry they changed. loretta! she's _meant_ to be rude! why did they change her???

    • @ven0mspark
      @ven0mspark 4 года назад +3

      I'm guessing that some random child got too offended about Loretta being rude and then went crying to their Karen mother, who then contacted her friends Susan and Karen #57 and spammed SSE until they changed Loretta, making her bland. Probably not what happened, but we can at least imagine

    • @ganonsimp1368
      @ganonsimp1368 4 года назад +1

      @@ven0mspark lmao that's probably what happened.

  • @catthefanatic5551
    @catthefanatic5551 4 года назад +3

    I feel like it's very important to develop characters - especially in a game focused towards a younger audience- that can help teach that audience that people have different sides to them. Like if they had Anne as a bit meaner, but then showed throughout the story she is truly as kind as people who are close to her say she is, that would kind of influence younger players in a really good way! I feel overall that the updated models are really nice (very happy about kind of embracing all sizes and such!), but it does highlight how outdated some other models look.... Every time I look at Mario to do that stupid meteor quest thing I have to stare at his void eyes. y i k e s

  • @MILKLIM
    @MILKLIM 4 года назад +6

    i HATE the new lisa, she used to be my favorite because i related to her so much

  • @seeking_saturn
    @seeking_saturn 4 года назад +19

    I don't get how Linda's intersts are contradictory. She's a nerd and likes nerdy stuff, seems fitting. That's what makes me like her the most, I can relate to her. Escapism gives me comfort.

  • @KotoIsLethargic
    @KotoIsLethargic 4 года назад +4

    I think that with Lisa they could have made her still a rock star but make her still into western riding. If that would be changed then that would be better and more like her old self but still like how they want it to be like if you get what I mean.

  • @dorothycoaleventing1567
    @dorothycoaleventing1567 4 года назад +9

    So there’s the gorgeous soul riders and NPCS, and people who don’t have names even, and then there’s...
    *_us._*

    • @molly702
      @molly702 3 года назад

      Sometimes I look at my character for too long and she follows the direction I put the camera in and it actually makes me scared of her cause she stares into my soul.

  • @l05tl1ght
    @l05tl1ght 4 года назад +7

    Can’t wait till the re make the dark riders

  • @supernovahhcos
    @supernovahhcos 4 года назад +3

    Honestly I don’t like how much they changed Lisa. She is basically a completely different character! Also idk why they made concord a mare, I feel like they should’ve kept her a male. I’m just gonna go with what you said- maybe it’s part of the storyline or something in the future.

  • @whitleyspencer7375
    @whitleyspencer7375 4 года назад +5

    I guess its a unpopular opnion that I like Lisa even more, I relate to her more now and I really love her,shes my second favorite soul rider.

    • @Elliarts54
      @Elliarts54 4 года назад +1

      You're not alone, mee to❤ Like, I liked her before, but I like her now more, too😄 Her and Linda are very similar to me now and I love how they have done Lisa💙

  • @horsecrazyviking7121
    @horsecrazyviking7121 4 года назад +5

    First off great video. 👏🏻
    Now for my thoughts about the Soul Riders’ redesigns.
    Regarding Lisa: I have the extremely unpopular opinion that the new Lisa is infinitely better than the old one. 😂
    I really like Linda’s, I agree that they expanded her character more. It’s nice to see Linda used in the game for more than just a substitute for Google. I don’t really think her reading interests are contradictory though, I mean I love history but I also love Lord of the Rings. Or maybe we’re both just weird that way? 🤔 😆
    Still haven’t really seen much of Anne yet so not sure how I feel about her personality but her riding outfit looks great. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    And Alex, well SSO actually managed to find a way to improve upon perfection. Of course I’m most like her in personality and interests so I might be a bit biased but she’s awesome. 😎

  • @gix.y
    @gix.y 3 года назад +3

    ok its SO WEIRD how Meteor is a Jorvik Warmblood?? but... looks absolutely nothing like a jorvik warmblood-

  • @fridayswithfifi
    @fridayswithfifi 3 года назад +2

    theorys
    MY THEORY ON FRIGE DOORS:
    its a alien hideout because it plays the same music when you go to the ufo...
    theory on horse death:
    our starters are gonna die because we got the rune runner recently ( could be new soul horse ) and, most recently the pandoria portal was open to all horses!

  • @prxncesx
    @prxncesx 4 года назад +1

    You deserve so much more. This is actually great sso content. My friend, you'll grow one day as you deserve it

  • @navyzecrazy1929
    @navyzecrazy1929 4 года назад +2

    The dressage clip with Anne from Sylvie Miststream though.. If anyone is in 2020, you probably know what I mean..

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +1

      Yeah, I didn't know about her... controvercy... when using the clips

  • @mightymoon02
    @mightymoon02 4 года назад +1

    I think I'm a dreamer and a realistic as Linda and it's not a bad thing. You can be realistic when something serious happens. Obviously you won't start daydreaming about it. However, when something less depressing and serious thing happens, you can be optimistic and a dreamer. And of course, in your free time, when you read a wonderful book you become a dreamer, you want to be a part of the story. I don't thing it was worth mentioning.

  • @ssomeoneyouknoww
    @ssomeoneyouknoww 4 года назад +9

    I hate how Meteor, who is supposed to be a show jumper has a draft model. Draft horses should not jump 😅.

    • @xxmochawolfgachaxx6459
      @xxmochawolfgachaxx6459 4 года назад

      Nobody said they couldn’t. :/

    • @ssomeoneyouknoww
      @ssomeoneyouknoww 4 года назад

      xX Mocha Wolf Gacha Xx They can jump. Doesn’t mean they should. They’re bred and built for pulling heavy loads. It is not good for them, and honestly irresponsible. It’s our responsibility as equestrians to get a horse that is built and made to tolerate the job we want them to perform. This has to do with biomechanics and anatomy, not them being unable to do it. :)

    • @nowhyisuck6666
      @nowhyisuck6666 4 года назад

      hes not a draft horse he just has a bit of hairy legs

    • @ssomeoneyouknoww
      @ssomeoneyouknoww 4 года назад

      Spirit My Love His model is definitely a draft. You can see it on the way his entire body is built, and the feathers, his “beard”, thickness of the legs, etc. It’s also basically the same model as the north Swedish in game, which is a draft horse.

    • @nowhyisuck6666
      @nowhyisuck6666 4 года назад

      Cray cray He is a jorvik warmblood

  • @junidaboonie5648
    @junidaboonie5648 4 года назад +5

    I love the character for all of them but a little bummed about Lisa’s.

  • @lilyberrygames7181
    @lilyberrygames7181 3 года назад +1

    Her: How can you be a dreamer and a researcher?
    Me: You be like me and Linda that is how! >:(

  • @D1nosaurEnjoyer
    @D1nosaurEnjoyer 4 года назад +2

    Updated soul riders: realistic body and beautiful color 👁👄👁
    The character players: smol with spike hair and dead body colors with deformated body 😔👌

    • @nowhyisuck6666
      @nowhyisuck6666 4 года назад

      imaooo

    • @molly702
      @molly702 3 года назад

      Small? People that say that small body types aren’t realistic make me really sad.

  • @vampicify
    @vampicify 4 года назад +5

    The issue with the update was that all they had to do was update the models, but instead they changed the characters entirely. Lisa isn't even Lisa anymore, they changed her backstory, style, and even her fucking race, it's gross.

  • @eliseroseleaf
    @eliseroseleaf 4 года назад +2

    I think changing Concorde from his old form being a male to 'him' now being a mare was the SSO teams way of really emphasising that the new Concorde isn't the exact same as the one we have now, and how he may have the same guardian spirit thing but is still a different horse- as although the main difference is he is now a foal, he will eventually grow and bla bla bla

  • @yuria_nihilisten
    @yuria_nihilisten 4 года назад +7

    Great video! Lisa's (and James's) designs really trouble me. Also the new personalities.

  • @stephanielightningwright7531
    @stephanielightningwright7531 4 года назад +12

    I LOVE Alexs and Lindas new designs, can't say the same about Lisa and Anne tho. As a person with short hair, I don't like the change of Lisas hair. Why couldnt they just kept it short? theres a lot of girls with short hair, why can't someone represent them? and I wish that she would be into rock and not a country girl, but I've started to kind of get used to it now. Anne tho, why did they change her personality like that? well, her personality in SSL was a bit too much, but it feels like SSO destroyed her character and now she is just so... flat? and that her mom forced her into everything, wtf?? they changed her so now she is shy and insecure but also angry. I think it's important for young girls to know that they are allowed to be confident, love themselves and their appearance but that they still can be really good persons and friends! Of course many people can probably relate to parents who put too much pressure of them, but sso could least have kept her confident personality.

  • @biancavandervalk3446
    @biancavandervalk3446 4 года назад +3

    Hii Eleanor I just wanted to say that ur videos are really cool and them 🥰

  • @tyrannosaurtxt
    @tyrannosaurtxt 4 года назад +2

    Eleanor: Soul riders are female, guardians are male
    Me, making my starter a girl: well *d a n g*

  • @JF-rr8ln
    @JF-rr8ln 4 года назад +2

    It's time we get an update.
    It's gotten to the point were our CHARACTERS THEMSELVES
    look OUTDATED

    • @bethanypullen5222
      @bethanypullen5222 4 года назад

      We don’t even blink where as the soul riders too

    • @JF-rr8ln
      @JF-rr8ln 4 года назад

      @@bethanypullen5222 ikr!!!!!!

  • @luvrr9888
    @luvrr9888 4 года назад +1

    I’ve been staying up all night watching your videos!🥰

  • @faustinapadolskyte5241
    @faustinapadolskyte5241 4 года назад +5

    I think they thought that Lisa as a person in a band or a rock star or smth looked too egy and emo for them.

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +3

      I used to think so too, but then we got the Miscreants, and I don't see how Lisa would be any different from them 🤔 they're probably even darker than she would be too

  • @Elliarts54
    @Elliarts54 4 года назад +2

    I agree with you with Anne. I think, that they should stick with the older character of Anne and don’t completely remake her character to good and say, that she’s just angry and missunderstood, since it doesn’t make any sense with all the soulriders around her, especially with Lisa, who gives her some attention... As for others, I think, that they’re more likeable for me now, especially Lisa, since before she appeared, like if she was fearless and she seemed... Well, unfinished and completely out of character. Now, that she has all the emotions, I think it’s much more realistic😄❤️ But nvm, found your video now and your voice is hella cute and nice to listen to❤️

  • @MegiMoon
    @MegiMoon 4 года назад +1

    Realistic and a dreamer? That would be me. Yeah we exist. It's possible to be both.

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +1

      Hmm, must be just me then 🤔 it just hits me as kind of strange how someone who is all fact-based also obsess over space knights and magical unicorns. There's nothing wrong with either, but I can't imagine combining them. I've probably just always seen her as a Hermione Granger kind of person 🤷‍♀️

    • @MegiMoon
      @MegiMoon 4 года назад

      @@eleanornightwalker Well it's like you said wanting to know facts about world but that doesn't mean we don't enjoy fantasy stuff. And whole thing about science fiction is because of trying to combine facts with fantasy. There are people liking mixing stuff :D

  • @JF-rr8ln
    @JF-rr8ln 4 года назад +3

    RIP Concorde you epic boi

  • @stellastarfield2039
    @stellastarfield2039 4 года назад +1

    They are much more realistic now ... great improvement!!👍🏼😊

  • @emilycoldlock9438
    @emilycoldlock9438 3 года назад +1

    I wonder if sso will build on our characters backstory, or leave it up to us.
    I like the idea of our character having their back story made by the player as the player is basically them, of course you can say that you are separate from your character like i believe as my character looks nothing like me i got brown hair she’s blonde, i got short hair hers is long, i got green eyes hers is blue.
    That’s all i really am gonna say

  • @kimwolf9229
    @kimwolf9229 4 года назад

    I agree with a lot of things you said and maybe I misunderstood the point you made but Linda can definitely be a releastic person and a researcher while really enjoying fantasy and being a dreamer! I feel like a lot of people are like that.

  • @Istilllikecheese
    @Istilllikecheese 4 года назад +1

    Omg yeah it was I started sso when the finnaly part Catherine's memory came out and I think they updated them perfect

  • @merchantofveniice
    @merchantofveniice 4 года назад +32

    It is not lisa anymore, she is now a random texas girl, when lisa was a punk/metal girl, i thought they would update her into a more of an old lisa's personality

  • @sliffsloff3148
    @sliffsloff3148 4 года назад +1

    Wow I saw ur chanbel a few days ago and u had 300 subs now over 1k like how good job

  • @jossanalskarhastar2370
    @jossanalskarhastar2370 4 года назад

    When they first changed the soulriders I kind of hated it. But after a while I realised that it was necessary and now I pretty much love their looks!

  • @pandora8427
    @pandora8427 3 года назад

    I honestly believe our characters need more depth!! Story wise. We seem to be more of the person doing a lot of the dirty work while the other 4 have the awesome powers and backstory while we follow far behind. We need more of a story and yes some of the more recently quests gives out characters more of idea on why their important but they make it seem like they really don’t need our character. Idk how to really explain it but i feel like our characters DEFINITELY need to have a quest line based around us and our story moving forward and how we make a difference in stopping the evil forces and what makes us so important to the group

  • @jabadeedeejabadabadoohh4875
    @jabadeedeejabadabadoohh4875 4 года назад +1

    About Linda, you can be both a realist and a dreamer. And it's not uncommon at all, too! :) i don't believe anything unless there's evidence. I love to make fanart. I don't want to form an opinion before i've done research. I read fanfiction all the time. Fantasy and being a dreamy fangirl gives your mind a break from working overdrive all the time!😄❤

  • @ronnie1092
    @ronnie1092 4 года назад +1

    Lisa and Alex were ma favourite characters. I loved them both for being rebellious and Lisa for her taste in music. Now, my only favourite is Alex.

  • @averymightybard2098
    @averymightybard2098 4 года назад +3

    I think Alex is a Leo as the zodiac sign

  • @adrianemoe1894
    @adrianemoe1894 4 года назад +3

    I apsolutly agree on whet you mean! Anne and Alex are kinda only one i like in the new upptade and all the horses exsept concord. sins Concord and ann was my favorit duo in the star shine games! And a thing that realy is bad is that Ann donsesnt seem to be to sad about concords death! like you can see it in some secnes but still she lost here hosre that she had for years and they had a greait bond but he is dead and she dont show that many emotin about it!

  • @lanapurebard69
    @lanapurebard69 4 года назад

    Omg another video I love ur channel so much I can already tell it’s gonna be a good video

  • @leborb8348
    @leborb8348 4 года назад +1

    The linda one isnt weird. I read fantasy a lot AND research history all the time. Its unusual, but not weird. I agree w the other ones though.

  • @ItsNatashaFFS
    @ItsNatashaFFS 4 года назад +1

    I agree with your ranking of the characters. I literally dislike Lisa now, she is too different from what she was. They needed to add that she loves rock n roll AND country for it to make more sense..... aaaaand I miss the spiky hair. It was ICONIC.

  • @helenehawkstorm1791
    @helenehawkstorm1791 4 года назад +2

    Anyone here after the sylvie mistream drama?

  • @ssoscar9539
    @ssoscar9539 4 года назад +2

    I love how you explained Linda’s body type ❤️ Linda is like the better version of my body type lol 😂 just one day xD

    • @eleanornightwalker
      @eleanornightwalker  4 года назад +1

      Yeah well I mean back in the day all four of them had the same body type, which was skinny because that was trendy at the time. For them to now represent four different (and healthy) body types is great and it was needed for people to feel more represented in the game. Anne represents a smaller body type while Linda represents a bigger. Lisa is in-between representing the "average" body, and Alex represents a fit body.

    • @ssoscar9539
      @ssoscar9539 4 года назад +1

      Eleanor Nightwalker it makes people look up to them more and make them feel more like you or anyone and it can make you feel like “She’s just like me I want to be like her.” If you get what I mean I’m bad at explaining things.

  • @maddie5194
    @maddie5194 4 года назад +1

    the old tincan used to scare me..

  • @nikkicrue
    @nikkicrue 3 года назад +1

    I’m a person who loves rock music and the rock style so I wish they kept Lisa that way ;-;

  • @bi_cycle
    @bi_cycle 4 года назад +1

    I have such a crush on new Linda, she's gorgeous!

  • @navytackedbay
    @navytackedbay 4 года назад

    It’s settled I’m dressing up as Anne for Halloween even if nobody gets it bahaha...

  • @ducklingdraws2920
    @ducklingdraws2920 4 года назад +8

    The thing is alot of kids play this game and look up to diffrent charachters if they made Lisa a bit more punk she would be a great role model. We have dark skin, round body, "nerdy", a tomboy, a truth speaker/the typical white girl and they all are great role models but Lisa? Why not make her punk when that was her whole charachter. The horses I think look great but changing concoreds gender was a weird. Not only that but breaking the brother hood in horses but not between the humans is just a bit weird and rude

  • @maplemarblez
    @maplemarblez 4 года назад

    Everyone: commenting what they think about the soul riders
    Me: *trying to figure out what place the background music is and it took 3 days to figure out it was pandoria*

  • @garnetstone87
    @garnetstone87 2 года назад +1

    about Linda; it's actually really common for logical people to enjoy fiction and it's massively parodied in other media to the point that it's considered a stereotype. Linda is actually very typical for who she is now.

  • @dl_games6498
    @dl_games6498 4 года назад +2

    1:25 I see an harry potter necklage

  • @Minna321
    @Minna321 2 года назад +1

    What if there is a quest where you meet the old soul/dark riders and find out that the new ones are working for dark core?

  • @quitted9352
    @quitted9352 3 года назад +2

    Our characters are so outdated when riding our beautiful horses 😭😫

  • @lilpotatozrcool1142
    @lilpotatozrcool1142 4 года назад +1

    I have an explanation for Lisa not being the same rocker as before. Star stable have said that they really wanted to make the soul riders feel realistic and felt that Lisa having lost her mother, being a soul rider and having her be a big rock star was a not realistic, especially considering her age. It takes time to get big. This is why they toned her down so much.
    Her new Western origin may have been to add variety in the group. With Linda doing showjumping, Anne doing drasage and Alex just being a general rider they may have felt the needed to acknowledge that side of the equestrian world too. I personally do think that they could have had her keep a bit more rocker but if we're being realistic then we need to acknowledge that the death of a parent during you teenage years is a big thing. This may have lead Lisa to want to keep her mother close in the form of her western roots. This wanting to keep her mother close is also why she wears the new jacket which the you can see was her mother's in the I am lisa video if you pay attention to the artwork.

    • @Elliarts54
      @Elliarts54 4 года назад

      Agree. As a child, I was playfull and would always play with a dog my grandpa and grandma owned... But then he died and it changed me forever🥺 Like, for a long time, we had to go for a walks with other dogs, before I could get in terms with it and in that time, I've also started to love animals more and released, that no animal is borned to be agressive towards peoples and that we're creating it on our own. I really love how they done Lisa, as it represents a person, who lost her close one very good 😄

  • @mirceacro
    @mirceacro 4 года назад +1

    i never notice but u are right some soul riders arent the old awesome same :( but there also really good :)