your videos should be mandatory for all make up companies. major pet peeve of mine that they still do the warm-cool-neutral-olive thing, when they could easily just use the olive-rosy and cool-warm axes (plus depth)
The BIGGEST pet peeve is how their "olive" is still too rosy/golden. Some of us have very little red in our skin, and olive is more of an overtone than an undertone.
I learned from a cosmetic chemist that those who formulate foundations tend to use higher ratios of red and yellow oxides, lacking in blue marine oxides. I advise olives of all shades to invest in a blue corrector to neutralize your foundation, especially if you are muted!
As a neutral olive pale skin girl, I love a red lip, and burgundy lips - but you gotta go sorta 'muddy' or 'grungey' when shopping for lip and cheek colours you want them to almost look like a 'mucky' version of the colour you want. On your lips / cheeks they wont end up looking at grungey as you think.
Yes I'm so grateful for that tip! I feel like I've been slowly starting to realize it on my own but after all those years of confusion I just sort of figured I couldn't wear it at all. Understanding why the red is always going to look super intense is going to help me let go of that ruby woo intensity and find something...'mucky' in the tube, lol, but low-key vibrant on me. Thanks for helping to cement this further in my mind! 😘
I am light to medium olive and cool. I'd also like to add that blue mixer helps bring out that green gray. I have been on a quest to find my perfect foundation and it was on my quest that I discovered I'm olive, because NOTHING was working for me. I just had luck with the Revlon skin illuminance 217 and Elf light 205 N, and to my surprise, they are both olive. If you are having trouble finding your shade, I highly encourage you to get a blue mixer, make you ideal shade and take it to the store in a zip lock bag. I know this sounds crazy, but I never would have found my shade if I didn't do this because, it looked darker than what I would go for but, it had that grayish quality in it that I needed. I hope companies start to add more shades for all of us olives out there!!!
Thanks for helping us olive skin tone ladies out! I know I definitely need it. Red is my fave color. It looks great on me, clothing and hair. but... when i wear red lipstick, yes, it looks crazy intense on me and I've been trying to figure out how to make it work for me. Neutrals do look best on me wether they are cool or warm. I think I might have some grey to my skin too. I'm learning. 💚
Lisa Eldridge has a red lip that is very muted called Enchantment in her velvet range. it reads as a normal red lip on someone who has muted/olive skin tone 🙂
I miss the old department store brand prescriptives. They would custom color correct your foundation. Only time I ever got a good match at the store (I'm a light cool olive). Nowadays, I mix the LA girl blue foundation into my slightly warm foundation- or just not wear foundation. I have friends with deeper toned cool olive skin tone and they have to use blue + darkening as the blue foundation lightens their foundation. It's frustrating and more expensive then makeup should be.
Hi! I have light olive skin that is also warm and delicate. Up until recently I was adding a green corrector to my foundation (which is a great tip!) until I tried Lisa Eldridge’s Seamless Skin Foundation in Shade 9, which on me is chef’s kiss 😘 She offers foundation sample cards and I’m pretty sure she has at least a few olive shades. It’s a bit on the pricey side when you factor in shipping to Australia, but it’s such a perfect match that I’m okay with paying the extra! By the way, I love these videos and would be very happy to see more! ❤
I have shade 9 as a cool olive and works well for me. I also tried 2.5 which is lighter and more suitable for me in winter, you can see the model that wear that shade how ‘silvery’ /muted her skintone is compared to the other models of comparable skintone depth. Armani luminous silk in 1,5 is too peachy but is more muted than other shades, a drop of blue mixer and it’s olive and muted.
Thank you for this I have been so lost. Someone randomly pointed out that I looked like very light olive. I gave up on foundations and that comment was a lightbulb moment.
My sister is cool olive and she found an olive foundation from Dior (Dior backstage face and body foundation). Just look for the colour code "o", then they have different depths too.
I think the cool olives are labeled neutral but they are usually the grey neutral shades the ones that are less red like Zoe Saldana And the peach undertones have yellow and more red are golden neutrals like me and Beyoncé And the warm olives are usually put in the warm category like Nicki Minaj
Cool radiant dark olive here, NC 45 depth. I love the Ami Cole skin tint, very olive friendly. I also love the NARS tinted moisturizer and Light Reflecting foundation. I like the Glossier skin tint also. When I need to color adjust, I find blue mixer works better for me than green mixer. It completely cancels out any orange and tones down foundation
I'm cool muted olive, and I know what colors looks good on me. I don't use foundation but I put on sunscreen with pigment on it. I tried to buy foundation once and was a disappointed, at least with the sunscreen I'm focusing more on protection than my mismatch skin tone
Cool skin tone here, always feeling as foundations are plenty dark and deep and olive but trouble is with proper tonality of the light ones. Even tinted zinc sunscreens are quite orangey and dark.
My skin colour is the same as yours and about the same age. I've never used foundation regularly, tried plenty shades but none worked. Loose powder in banana shades kind of works, second best option
I will guess that the "neutral" between cool pink and golden warm will be peach? Since I didn't fit exactly both categories completely, I thought I might be a fair olive, but I tried a very pale peach undertone foundation, L'Oréal infallible in "classic ivory",it was an exact match, I think an indication that you might not be olive is the presence of natural redness in the body. Someone who's pale and looks obviously olive could be Taeyeon, her skintone is very even without pink undertones.
Juvias place jas cool olive foundations. Try their i am magic foundation. For Dark Cool skin Olive -Accra and for Deep cool olive skin try Togo. It is the best color match i have ever tried.
Reddit’s olive mua community has some swatches you could look at. As a cool, delicate, muted, light olive with rosacea, I just mix green concealer with my sunscreen and call it a day. Everything else is too colorful, even the grayish options from Korean brands.
Im so confused..How does one with medium/light muted beige skin with a rosy tone know if they are a cool and delicate with yellows that just show in an unflattering way, or am I just plain warm and delicate? I can’t wear any whites or peaches or pinks or oranges, it makes me appear darker and more yellow then I am, I don’t wear foundation but I know that warm dark brown lipsticks appear really bright red/pink on me which makes me look even more yellow 😭 I’m so confused
That’s what I’m unsure of, I’m so close to neutral that it would makes sense for me to be at least some kind of muted olive but since I’ve got far more rosy reds to my skin then blues doesn’t that automatically disqualify me from being any kind of olive? And because I have more reds and yellows doesn’t that make me warm? So then why do dark warm brown lipsticks appear like an unflattering red on me, while dark muted cool colours look better on me despite all the reds and yellows in my skin? Obviously you can’t see my skin to judge yourself on if I’m cool or warm or olive or not, but maybe one day you can make a video going over the key subtle differences between people with light medium beige skin that are a Yellow rosy cool delicate vs yellow rosy warm delicate, as well as how someone with beige skin might mistake themselves for an olive cool or warm since in my last msg I stated at how I just don’t know if I’m a muted cool with yellows that are showing in an unflattering way or if I’m straight up warm and delicate, like what are the differences between those? Idk lol I’m still learning all these skin tone terms so I’m unsure if what I’m even asking is reasonable 😂 maybe one day In the future when I’m not poor I’ll sign up for one of your colour consults since I feel like I’m definitely one of those confusing mixed raced cases. And Sorry for the confusing long msg btw lol
@@merriamstyle easy, I never put foundation all over the face, only strategically. Olives major issue is discoloration, particularly from the blue under the skin.
I love being olive toned and I love looking as green as I genuinely am. Not everyone wants to spend their time & effort on changing their features to meet someone else’s idea of “neutral”.
@@discogothI grew up hearing how ugly my skin tone was. It was a long road to accept it. That’s why I don’t use foundations to cover my whole face, only strategic correcting.
Also opposite of light skin tone isn’t deep but DARK As opposite of “deep” features isn’t “shallow” English is my third language and even I understand these are the wrong words used for skin tone typing. Your skin features aren’t Deeper but Darker than mine, common sense. Same as this thing of talking about “people of color” another way to gaslight light skin people, because everyone except pinky white skin is considered a person of color across all other races except white. Unsubscribed.
You probably should look into modern foundation categorizations, the 40+ shades kind. Dark-to-Deep transitions as a category of skintone depth is a common thing in cosmetic brands these days. No, just because someone has deep skintone it doesn't make lighter skintone people seem shallowness of personality or character; it refers to depth in shade of colour. It is not the personal attack you think it is.
You don't understand Critical Race Theory and how power works. Whiteness is about White supremacy, colonialism, slavery and power, not skin tone. Peak ignorance that you display here. You're welcome to unsubscribe from the whole planet. Fall off the face of the earth. Good riddance. If you're so fragile that you can't educate yourself on the issues you feel entitled to talk about, that's really a "you" issue. Nobody is gaslighting you, right-wing snowflake.
This is hilarious. I know over a dozen languages, 6 being modern languages. I sure as hell never tell native speakers that they’re wrong. Maybe flip back to the “adjectives” portion of your English 101 textbook. Deep DOES mean dark. When we talk about a “deep red” we mean a dark red, like a burgundy, garnet, maroon, etc. When we say “deep blue” we mean navy, sapphire, indigo, etc. You’re missing a ton of context with the phrase “people of color”. The context is that up until recently in the US, the white majority called Black people as “colored” as a way to alienate them from white people. They referred to Native Americans as “redskins” & East Asians “yellow”, for example. White people deemed themselves “white” and everyone else has a “color”, because they wanted there to be a distinction between themselves as white people and everyone else as non-white. They wanted everything to be perceived relative to whiteness: either you’re the white “standard” or you’re some color of “other”. People of color didn’t want to be “non-white”, but we have also all been deemed “not white” by the white majority and there are stereotypes and categorizations based on what color we were given. So we decided on “people of color”.
your videos should be mandatory for all make up companies. major pet peeve of mine that they still do the warm-cool-neutral-olive thing, when they could easily just use the olive-rosy and cool-warm axes (plus depth)
The BIGGEST pet peeve is how their "olive" is still too rosy/golden. Some of us have very little red in our skin, and olive is more of an overtone than an undertone.
I always find them too yellow when I get an pretty close match it makes me look pale.
I learned from a cosmetic chemist that those who formulate foundations tend to use higher ratios of red and yellow oxides, lacking in blue marine oxides. I advise olives of all shades to invest in a blue corrector to neutralize your foundation, especially if you are muted!
thanks for the tip!
I can vouch for the elf blue color corrector saving my hourglass foundation and I’m sooooo thrilled bc their formula is fire.
I also swear by blue corrector
@@TaylorOwenwow elf has one? convenient.
@@kalpic11 $4 USD
As a neutral olive pale skin girl, I love a red lip, and burgundy lips - but you gotta go sorta 'muddy' or 'grungey' when shopping for lip and cheek colours you want them to almost look like a 'mucky' version of the colour you want. On your lips / cheeks they wont end up looking at grungey as you think.
Yes I'm so grateful for that tip! I feel like I've been slowly starting to realize it on my own but after all those years of confusion I just sort of figured I couldn't wear it at all. Understanding why the red is always going to look super intense is going to help me let go of that ruby woo intensity and find something...'mucky' in the tube, lol, but low-key vibrant on me. Thanks for helping to cement this further in my mind! 😘
I am light to medium olive and cool. I'd also like to add that blue mixer helps bring out that green gray. I have been on a quest to find my perfect foundation and it was on my quest that I discovered I'm olive, because NOTHING was working for me. I just had luck with the Revlon skin illuminance 217 and Elf light 205 N, and to my surprise, they are both olive. If you are having trouble finding your shade, I highly encourage you to get a blue mixer, make you ideal shade and take it to the store in a zip lock bag. I know this sounds crazy, but I never would have found my shade if I didn't do this because, it looked darker than what I would go for but, it had that grayish quality in it that I needed. I hope companies start to add more shades for all of us olives out there!!!
Thanks for helping us olive skin tone ladies out! I know I definitely need it. Red is my fave color. It looks great on me, clothing and hair. but... when i wear red lipstick, yes, it looks crazy intense on me and I've been trying to figure out how to make it work for me. Neutrals do look best on me wether they are cool or warm. I think I might have some grey to my skin too. I'm learning. 💚
Lisa Eldridge has a red lip that is very muted called Enchantment in her velvet range. it reads as a normal red lip on someone who has muted/olive skin tone 🙂
@@elineermens1 I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation! 🌹
I miss the old department store brand prescriptives. They would custom color correct your foundation. Only time I ever got a good match at the store (I'm a light cool olive). Nowadays, I mix the LA girl blue foundation into my slightly warm foundation- or just not wear foundation. I have friends with deeper toned cool olive skin tone and they have to use blue + darkening as the blue foundation lightens their foundation. It's frustrating and more expensive then makeup should be.
Hi! I have light olive skin that is also warm and delicate. Up until recently I was adding a green corrector to my foundation (which is a great tip!) until I tried Lisa Eldridge’s Seamless Skin Foundation in Shade 9, which on me is chef’s kiss 😘 She offers foundation sample cards and I’m pretty sure she has at least a few olive shades. It’s a bit on the pricey side when you factor in shipping to Australia, but it’s such a perfect match that I’m okay with paying the extra! By the way, I love these videos and would be very happy to see more! ❤
Thank you for that recommendation. I absolutely love Lisa Eldridge's videos on how to choose a foundation shade.
I have shade 9 as a cool olive and works well for me. I also tried 2.5 which is lighter and more suitable for me in winter, you can see the model that wear that shade how ‘silvery’ /muted her skintone is compared to the other models of comparable skintone depth. Armani luminous silk in 1,5 is too peachy but is more muted than other shades, a drop of blue mixer and it’s olive and muted.
Thank you for this I have been so lost. Someone randomly pointed out that I looked like very light olive. I gave up on foundations and that comment was a lightbulb moment.
My sister is cool olive and she found an olive foundation from Dior (Dior backstage face and body foundation). Just look for the colour code "o", then they have different depths too.
I think the cool olives are labeled neutral but they are usually the grey neutral shades the ones that are less red like Zoe Saldana
And the peach undertones have yellow and more red are golden neutrals like me and Beyoncé
And the warm olives are usually put in the warm category like Nicki Minaj
Cool radiant dark olive here, NC 45 depth. I love the Ami Cole skin tint, very olive friendly. I also love the NARS tinted moisturizer and Light Reflecting foundation. I like the Glossier skin tint also. When I need to color adjust, I find blue mixer works better for me than green mixer. It completely cancels out any orange and tones down foundation
I'm cool muted olive, and I know what colors looks good on me. I don't use foundation but I put on sunscreen with pigment on it. I tried to buy foundation once and was a disappointed, at least with the sunscreen I'm focusing more on protection than my mismatch skin tone
Beauty Blender has a great light neutral olive foundation.
Cool skin tone here, always feeling as foundations are plenty dark and deep and olive but trouble is with proper tonality of the light ones. Even tinted zinc sunscreens are quite orangey and dark.
The oxidizing is still such a huge problem! They settle into that orange or salmon pink color after a while.
Skinceuticals has the perfection made tinted sunscreen
My skin colour is the same as yours and about the same age. I've never used foundation regularly, tried plenty shades but none worked. Loose powder in banana shades kind of works, second best option
I will guess that the "neutral" between cool pink and golden warm will be peach?
Since I didn't fit exactly both categories completely, I thought I might be a fair olive, but I tried a very pale peach undertone foundation, L'Oréal infallible in "classic ivory",it was an exact match, I think an indication that you might not be olive is the presence of natural redness in the body.
Someone who's pale and looks obviously olive could be Taeyeon, her skintone is very even without pink undertones.
Juvias place jas cool olive foundations. Try their i am magic foundation. For Dark Cool skin Olive -Accra and for Deep cool olive skin try Togo. It is the best color match i have ever tried.
Can you make a video on the best red hair for each undertone?
Makes sense
Like my parents, the cosmetics industry just doesn’t believe in me.
😂 but also 😔
Deep in Deep Winter means high contrast, it doesn't mean dark skin, though. Not sure, if you were referring to dark skin or high contrast?
I mean a deep skin tone, not deep features.
Dear Merriam, why do you never wear bright colours! I think it would look great on you 🙂
Are there any cool olive foundations out there? I have not met them yet😩 where are they hiding
Reddit’s olive mua community has some swatches you could look at. As a cool, delicate, muted, light olive with rosacea, I just mix green concealer with my sunscreen and call it a day. Everything else is too colorful, even the grayish options from Korean brands.
Don’t use a cool olive foundation, unless you want to look even greener. Something slightly peach is better.
@@EdwardDillingerTRONL thank you, I’ll try that!
@@di3486 oh! Well yes I don’t wish to be greener. I guess I have some trying to do😅🍑🫒🎨👩🏻🎨
Lisa Eldridge does a few I think. More should.
The best brand for olive is NARS also two faced
Not for me
No. As a MUA both of these brands “olive” shades are orange as hell. No blue or green pigments being used.
@@sarahnicoleanastasia Im a very pale olive . Somehow these brands work
No. They are both too orange.
Im so confused..How does one with medium/light muted beige skin with a rosy tone know if they are a cool and delicate with yellows that just show in an unflattering way, or am I just plain warm and delicate?
I can’t wear any whites or peaches or pinks or oranges, it makes me appear darker and more yellow then I am, I don’t wear foundation but I know that warm dark brown lipsticks appear really bright red/pink on me which makes me look even more yellow 😭
I’m so confused
could you be cool olive?
That’s what I’m unsure of, I’m so close to neutral that it would makes sense for me to be at least some kind of muted olive but since I’ve got far more rosy reds to my skin then blues doesn’t that automatically disqualify me from being any kind of olive? And because I have more reds and yellows doesn’t that make me warm? So then why do dark warm brown lipsticks appear like an unflattering red on me, while dark muted cool colours look better on me despite all the reds and yellows in my skin?
Obviously you can’t see my skin to judge yourself on if I’m cool or warm or olive or not, but maybe one day you can make a video going over the key subtle differences between people with light medium beige skin that are a Yellow rosy cool delicate vs yellow rosy warm delicate, as well as how someone with beige skin might mistake themselves for an olive cool or warm since in my last msg I stated at how I just don’t know if I’m a muted cool with yellows that are showing in an unflattering way or if I’m straight up warm and delicate, like what are the differences between those?
Idk lol I’m still learning all these skin tone terms so I’m unsure if what I’m even asking is reasonable 😂 maybe one day In the future when I’m not poor I’ll sign up for one of your colour consults since I feel like I’m definitely one of those confusing mixed raced cases. And Sorry for the confusing long msg btw lol
Beyonce is tan basically. There's tan, then deep tan.
I always thought she was golden
MAC studio fix NC55 💯
If you are truly cool olive, peach undertone is your best friend. You don’t want a foundation that makes you look GREENER!
well then your face will look neutral or peach, and your hands and your neck will still be olive. then what!
@@merriamstyle easy, I never put foundation all over the face, only strategically. Olives major issue is discoloration, particularly from the blue under the skin.
I love being olive toned and I love looking as green as I genuinely am. Not everyone wants to spend their time & effort on changing their features to meet someone else’s idea of “neutral”.
@@discogothI grew up hearing how ugly my skin tone was. It was a long road to accept it. That’s why I don’t use foundations to cover my whole face, only strategic correcting.
@@di3486 Then you know how shitty it is to tell someone to avoid looking like themselves by neutralizing their features.
Also opposite of light skin tone isn’t deep but DARK
As opposite of “deep” features isn’t “shallow” English is my third language and even I understand these are the wrong words used for skin tone typing. Your skin features aren’t Deeper but Darker than mine, common sense. Same as this thing of talking about “people of color” another way to gaslight light skin people, because everyone except pinky white skin is considered a person of color across all other races except white. Unsubscribed.
You probably should look into modern foundation categorizations, the 40+ shades kind. Dark-to-Deep transitions as a category of skintone depth is a common thing in cosmetic brands these days. No, just because someone has deep skintone it doesn't make lighter skintone people seem shallowness of personality or character; it refers to depth in shade of colour. It is not the personal attack you think it is.
You don't understand Critical Race Theory and how power works. Whiteness is about White supremacy, colonialism, slavery and power, not skin tone. Peak ignorance that you display here.
You're welcome to unsubscribe from the whole planet. Fall off the face of the earth. Good riddance. If you're so fragile that you can't educate yourself on the issues you feel entitled to talk about, that's really a "you" issue. Nobody is gaslighting you, right-wing snowflake.
Toodles😘
This is hilarious. I know over a dozen languages, 6 being modern languages. I sure as hell never tell native speakers that they’re wrong. Maybe flip back to the “adjectives” portion of your English 101 textbook.
Deep DOES mean dark. When we talk about a “deep red” we mean a dark red, like a burgundy, garnet, maroon, etc. When we say “deep blue” we mean navy, sapphire, indigo, etc.
You’re missing a ton of context with the phrase “people of color”. The context is that up until recently in the US, the white majority called Black people as “colored” as a way to alienate them from white people. They referred to Native Americans as “redskins” & East Asians “yellow”, for example. White people deemed themselves “white” and everyone else has a “color”, because they wanted there to be a distinction between themselves as white people and everyone else as non-white. They wanted everything to be perceived relative to whiteness: either you’re the white “standard” or you’re some color of “other”. People of color didn’t want to be “non-white”, but we have also all been deemed “not white” by the white majority and there are stereotypes and categorizations based on what color we were given. So we decided on “people of color”.
Uh... she's talking about saturation 😂 this is colour theory/analysis talk