Sumer & Keith: The Widower & The Wild Child | Family or Fiance S1 E8 | Full Episode | OWN
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- When a spirited young business woman falls hopelessly in love with an older man who suffered a tragic loss, both of their families worry that their impending union may be more about filling a void then fulfilling a life together. (Original air date: April 20, 2019)
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Sumer & Keith: The Widower & The Wild Child | Family or Fiance S1 E8 | Full Episode | OWN
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Why are the families acting like Summer is a 20 year old and Keith is 2 inches from the grave??🤣
Exactly 😂😂😂
Cause they're weird
They feel she is still young and pretty enough to attract a better man before she no longer has that option 🤷🏻♀️
lol it’s colorism lol
@@helena3631 HONESTLY......I think that's apart of it
Everything Keith feels is valid. He just said it in the wrong way. He was very hurtful with his word choice, but his observations of their selfishness and dysfunction is spot on.
Absolutely, dysfunctional was the wrong word. I would have chose not structured.
@@tigerlily9673 Yes, I can agree with that. I was raised to always say Thank you for kind gestures and a whole trip to Italy is beyond kind
He doesn’t owe anyone an apology. They’re ungrateful.
I hear you, but I feel like they both owed each other an apology. Summer’s people were definitely unappreciative and absolutely lacked accountability. However, I believe he likes to hit below the belt when he’s expressing his feelings. Everyone thinks he’s quiet, but he seems to be secretly telling himself that he is superior.
@@osunlade-daphne2598you hit the nail on the head
@osunlade-daphne2598 you hit the nail on the head! Spot on! 👍🏼
Her Mom is crying because they were called on the carpet about the “Italy Trip”. We found out how ungrateful you were. Keith paid for a trip for 6 people. He received NOT ONE Thank YOU! DO BETTER 😮
He wants the validation from them
But I’m upset with him for sending her mother & family to Italy 🇮🇹 but didn’t do it for his own Mother. To me that’s disrespectful.
The Lopes are ungrateful and entitled. The mother was upset that she was called out. He did something for them that he hadn't even done for his own family.
This episode was so one sided…I hope Keith runs and knows he deserves better. Summer and her family need to rewatch this episode and mature. They are all too old to be acting like this. The therapist dropped the ball on this one
I was Very disappointed in Traci in this episode. Sumer was never called out for entitlement , coddling her gold digging family, nothing. She never had to change
Wait she’s mad that he won’t pay for her family after gifting them a thankless vacation to Italy? For real for real? That’s bold.
They entitled to the core. Toxic as hell
I think it’s just how he said it,
It came off like
I’m having a destination wedding and idc if your broke family can make it or not
@@roastingroyalty2125well he don’t lol because they’re ungrateful Now, he’s sorry, not sorry 🤷♀️ Anyway, he didn’t send me so I was just commenting 😂 who cares?
Her side of the family is full of it!!
I think it’s wrong that his family wasn’t made to address their unthankfulness of his generosity. They could’ve at least said THANKS
She did a couple of times when it was brought up.
He sent them to Italy and they never thanked him???? They’d NEVER get anything from me again
And that’s all the good brotha was saying. Straight up! Bank closed!
Summer expects Keith to pay for her family to go to destination wedding?!? RUN KEITH
Yes, she does which is CRAZY!!!run Keith!!!!!!
And he did 😂 did u see the end? Smh I hope things were equal 🙃
Right she trippin foh
Gold diggers for sure
@@KrisHoppzthat’s expected when your a light skin or white women they have high expectations I wish darker skinned bkack women thought like this
He wasn't wrong for his feelings about the Italy trip. He should have gotten more than a card. A lunch, dinner, a wallet. Something!
Yes, at least a nice thank you dinner🤦🏾
He didn't even get the card! She still has it at home, allegedly.
Mama Kieth is a lovely lady 🥰 so patient and welcoming 😊
This entire episode pissed me off including the therapist telling him to apologize. Summer needs to marry her family, her family thinks he’s an atm
Right!!
I am glade I'm not the only one.
He paid for one trip THAT THEY DIDNT ASK FOR where the they think he’s an atm
Coming from?
@@chayegrbecause she thinks he’s also going to pay for them to attend their wedding. They are ungrateful opportunists.
I aint mad at Keith and he is very handsome for his age but the only thing i dont agree with is sending a girlfriend mom to Italy over your own and now look at how she treats you. Im sure his mom would have been thankful and appreciative
Facts
Yup, trying too hard to get acceptance. Then, he was disappointed when they didn't even seem to appreciate it.
She's giving "take care of me and my family" and actually it's off puting
Exactly. When she brought up getting married in Cabo, and they would "figure it out" he knew that meant he would end up paying for her entire family to attend, and he's putting his foot down from the get-go saying that is not going to happen. I wouldn't call them dysfunctional, but I would call them spoiled and entitled.
Mom feels like she deserve an apology yet couldnt even say thank you for a trip TO ITALY that didnt even send his own mother and sister
Having to "turn up" to be accepted is a red flag. Either be with someone just like you or ACCEPT and LOVE the differences in each other.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The mom is definitely giving recovering addict and emotional instability
Yes!!
Def recovering addict, thus the emotional outbursts as a manipulation tactic.
It's the mouth 👄 movements ,huh?
@@princesslilchief8282 her whole demeanor
@@princesslilchief8282that could be from dentures
Keith is right. Her family is unappreciative and too negative. They nitpick at the most trivial things.
I can't believe he sent them to Italy and they didn't even say thank you they are disfunctional and then the mom wants to cry and walk out. He didn't make her cry he made her think 🤔🤔
oh my goodness, yeah, keith better rethink this decision, and the friend is just a friend she need to sthu.
Well what do you expect he presented as the 🚯
Facts
Not saying Thank You was crazy!
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Sumer’s family didn’t ever even say thank you in the episode so why would Keith want to pay for anything else. It’s fair 😅 - Sumer gaslighting him is odd too
So he should apologize but her family can't say thank you. Wow!
Whoaaaaa he sends them all to Italy and he’s still waiting on a thank you!! Forget a card they should have been called him and said thank you
Exactly that's beyond generous
Keith you’re a beautiful man. Pleasssssseeeeeeee run ❤. Your heart in the right place. But they aren’t for you.
I'm just hoping that she does not see him as a SUGAR DADDY?!! NOW SEND YOUR OWN FAMILY TO ITALY OR AFRICA KEITH!!❤🙏
@freedoml1129 she's in her 40s it's definitely less than 10 years between them. She could be looking for a retirement plan
There is nothing wrong with him being quiet. Just because they are loud, doesn't mean that everyone else has to be the same way.
Keith....I don't like to wish ill..but this will end in Divorce court .....PLEASE tell me there was a pre-nup!!!!!! 🙏🏾
She is immature. She should be protecting him from her family who are ungrateful. The mother is emotionally immature and plays a victim.
I agree. She let her kids drink and have no curfew, is dysfunctional. I wish my mom would let me drink and come in the house when I wanted to. She would be kicking my behind all up and down the house.
I hope Keith finds someone better.
Keith having to apologize for speaking his truth is why men don't share, and why he hadn't shared for so long. Usually, culture wants men's truth only when it aligns with theirs.
Exactly, he had every right to feel they he felt and if she want to be his spouse she should be the first to provide a safe place for him to do so.
Just b/c it's his truth doesn't make how he spoke it appropriate. Furthermore, he was judgmental and their lack of gratitude doesn't make them "dysfunctional," it makes them ungrateful. Men speak their truths and do so with care; males don't. Keith is a male.
She looking for a meal ticket, keith don't do it. You deserve better
Men love gold diggers didn’t u know he thinks she’s the prize she’s light enough for him so yeah he going to spend
Keith needs to stop thinking he is better than women his own age and shape.
Not and shape😂😂😂
@@teresamarie7460😂
@@gi-gijay4114😂😂😂😂
That one sister smiled when Summer got mad and walked out of the kitchen. It’s like they’re purposely trying to destroy their relationship. Also, they are completely blowing every little thing that he says out of proportion.
I caught that too!!!
I saw it, too!😢
Yes I clocked that!
What an ungrateful family! He appears an exceptional guy, and they can't say "thank you." WoW.
They knew it was wrong, not even the friend knew about it. Freeloading, ungrateful and miseducated.
Why ask him a question if you didn’t want his true response?!
The bride mom is upset because she’s she know it’s some truth to what he’s saying !
Summer's Mother is another case of a parent avoiding accountability. Crocodile tears won't solve the problem, therapy and accountability will help her do better!
She raised a healthy looking family to me. You fake Christians feel like you're superior is all. 😂😂
And please don't forget drugs
The fact that Sumer didn’t check her family about the trip is CRAZY!! Why make him address it. Her family is dysfunctional!!!
Summer’s Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
She is not protecting him or standing up for him when he’s right. This is a good guy. They wouldn’t get another dime.Summer pay for them to be in Cabo then. No they want to have a party on his $$ and not Respect him😮
I was waiting for her to say something
Summer and her family want a cash machine.
My thoughts exactly
My thoughts exactly
This is true
No. Her family is literally not used to anything.
They’re just trashy.
They certainly ain’t never had a man send them anywhere…
Yeah she's looking for
Somebody
Too support her
And her family Sumner is In Opportunist
It's very Obvious that she's Only with Him for his
Money not
For love.
Run Keith, you will find better. Her family doesn't appreciate you. Her family lacks accountability. I dont blame you for not wanting to spend any more money on them after not getting a thank you.
Keith and Summer look like they are the same age.
Exactly. I don’t get the concern about the age difference. Look like they are both early 50s.
That’s what I was thinking!!
Same!
All that "partying" aged her 😁
Yes they look the same way
Idk about dysfunctional, but the bride’s family is very close and a little sensitive to have such strong opinions on Keith. Don’t dish it and not be able to take it. Clearly nobody has ever challenged anyone in her family. Keith was really nice in my opinion.
Keith need to run 🏃♂️
Summer doesnt bring much to the table. Especially if she expects this man to carry her family
Im guessing the scene where moma Lopes thanks him for the trip to Italy got cut
My thoughts exactly, "and they STILL haven't thanked him for the trip!" Yep, I see the dysfuntion, by way of entitlement and deflection from addressing any issues that highlight their flows or missteps.
@@umadox41Yes! They could thank him RIGHT NOW!
They are trying to change that man… he is clear on who he is and they want him to be someone he isnt
Totally agree
I don’t think they tryna change him
But they see that he is trying to change her Now if she WANTS to change then that’s where she needs to address her family
And yet, she still hasn't asked her family why they never properly thanked him for the trip. If they're upset that he thinks they can't afford it, then PROVE HIM WRONG!!!
Summer should have held her family accountable for not showing appreciation! There is no way I would allow my family to drop the ball. She should have made sure everyone took him to dinner and signed that card!
Summer is a user, also. She’s pretending. Keith better run.
the therapist was biased in this episode. it was so wrong
She absolutely was.
Thank you! Why should he have to apologize for his truth, like tha heck?!
Keith isn’t wrong about not one darn thing!! They think him speaking his truth is harsh but when they do it it’s okay. I would NEVER pay for my fiancé family out of the country wether I had it or not! Keith got money money ❤❤
Your not wrong About that At all.
The only thing she Seem to be
Attracted to
Is his packet book.
Well she did say that she loved how THOUGHTFUL Keith is!!!!!!!!!!!
@@momonie4
We all know
What that means.
Obviously this
Woman isn't
In love with
Keith at all
This we know
Too be true.
The one thing
She is in love
With clearly
Is his money.
So Keith's role in this marriage has been determined that if her family is in need or she wants to "experience" something with her family that he's going to bank roll it. With no expectation of two simple words to show gratitude (Thank You). Mazel tov!!
They don't need to get married. Her family will continue to sabotage. Keith needs to move on, the way he described his wife that passed showed true love. Summer and her family just want to take and not give
Summers family going to keep her single. Going through life they way they do. Noone owes you anything esp. the man she is marring. Gratitude should of been priority and everything else would of fell into place. 😮😮
Exactly
Sumer... your family was ungrateful for the Italy trip. I wouldn't want to pay for them to come 😊anywhere else either
this is bs the therapist should've made them say thank you
That bull scene-😂😂😂
There was a lot of bull in this episode, but you get the idea!
Her family still NEVER said THANK YOU!!
Family background it is like a shadow. You dont see it but it is there. It influences your decision making, perspective, emotional intelligence and your mouth Being equally yoked includes that.
That's a word right there! Facts.
This 👏 👏 👏
Why would or did he pay for there trip? And why are they making excuses for their behavior?
It's not exactly giving spring chicken 🥴
But he's definitely giving silver fox so she better tighten up bc that's a hot commodity for us single gals
Also: sensing an addiction problem with Sumer's mom and sis. Maybe even Sumer idk
Written all over them
I'm soo glad Keith Said how he feels with those ungrateful family members of Hers!!!!!
How old is Sumer ??? She looks as old Keith
I guess it's safe to assume that we're not getting another season of Family or Fiancé 😢. I really enjoyed this show
Same!! They should communicate better. I’m also wondering about Put a Ring on It ☹️
@@TaurusChanelYes!! Instead they put "Never Ever Mets" on our screen smh. OWN is really starting to go down
Tracy wrote a television show about her life called Unprisoned starring Kerry Washington. I dont think she will come back.
@@MissB2483 you ain’t lying 😂 it’s definitely giving messyyyy. Don’t none of them need to be together lol
@@AdwoaHema whhhaaaat!?! I didn’t connect the dots that THIS is THAT Tracy until you said something. That show was so much better than I expected lol
Mom cried bc she was a friend instead of a parent. He didn’t make her cry. They are full of it
Why should he pay for her to go to Cabo when they didn’t say thank you for Italy
She doesn't seem younger than him. They do seem mismatched and the family seems to believe they were entitled to the trip by their lack of gratitude. Kinda makes you wonder what's the connection.
Whoever gave that question to keith about his wife and as a 1st question. Should be ashamed on themselves. They only wanted to see if he will react like he has any current feelings towards her
I thought that that was an odd question also. I felt like what’s so secretive about that? You could’ve asked him that a long time ago if you really cared about him and your daughter.
@@osunlade-daphne2598 riight
She does not look that young, I mean he looks her age
Dude don’t need to marry her or be apart of her family
I missed this show. Keep them coming, they really help and Tracey is awesome
People who don’t do stuff for people always talk about what they’ll do for people. Stop!
Her family is very selfish
Wow the brother and brother in law look like brothers
Why would you send someone else's mom and family to Italy who seem very ungrateful and you didn't even send your own mom and family smh
Nothing in common ; not a good match
Her family is a mess a trip to Italy and they didn’t say thank you?? He’s not asking for a lot just a little decency. They give trailer park. Why didn’t summer ensure that was done and why is he apologising when there is still no thank you just immediate victimhood.
My grandmother used to say if you grew up a particular way do not marry someone who is is SUPER diff in upbringing cos eventually...the inequalities and differences will rear their ugly little heads. Sumer needs to check her mom a bit about that Italy trip and Keith needs to learn that words hurt. He is older and obvs was raised with strict rules.
What’s the age difference ? That’s a grown woman. Why is she talking about the ability to party
He spends thousands on a trip for them to Italy...they never say thank you. Mom 'forgets' the thank you card. He speaks on it...and they are mad at him for telling them he's offended cause they never said thank you and expect an apology.. WTF?
He should never apologize for saying a fact.
Why did he have to show the family he could turn up for him to marry her? It’s not like they’re marrying him
Her whole family ages badly.
He’s absolutely right. She’s not the right person, either,
Keith run now…
And staaaay running!! FAST!
Seriously he paid for her family to go on vacation and not his family wow,her Mom look mad when she came there and it hasn't changed !
My hear broke hearing that he lost his wife on Christmas day, i wonder if he is truly healed
I don't feel like Summer isn't presenting her authentic self to Keith. It's like she's trying to act more "sophisticated" than she actually is 😂😂😂
Terrible Tracy!!! I’ve never been more disappointed in the way things were handled until this episode! Keith’s feelings were totally disregarded and made invalid. That family is toxic
I can't believe they attacked Keith for his honest opinion. Also if someone pays for a trip for you you buy them a blo*dy present and say thank you. BUT he did the right thing apologizing to her mother
Keith sent Sumer family to Italy. Sumer expects her ungrateful family to to Cabo😂😂😂😂😂😂! 🏃♂️ man 🏃♂️ 😊
He sent all y’all to Italy you should have brought back some souvenirs, a bottle of wine, a photo album something 🤦♀️ and the man couldn’t even get a thank you card. That’s
Home training 101
She all about his money! You want a destination wedding so your family can experience it and he’s paying. And they couldn’t say THANK YOU!…as he heard the desires from his fiancée heart to go to Italy 🇮🇹 without sending his own momma and sister. Aw nah!!!! They wrong!
He needs to run
I agree the least they could have done was say thank you. I don’t agree with him calling them dysfunctional.
Mom keeps looking at daughters for backup and they are focused on words vs impact. Summer is allowing her mom and sisters to walk all over Keith
It's giving she's looking to be taken care of by a rich man. She's not in love with him, she's in love with what he can do for her and how he treats her.
RUN BROTHA!
Keith is older but they look the same in age. He gifted her family before his family is obsolete but you did it and can’t hold a grudge Keith. Summer family was definitely ungrateful you have a card what happen to a telephone call.
Her family does seem dysfunctional and it also seems as though her family is looking for reasons to not like him.