The song of our people: verse one is about making something. Verse two is about making something to make the thing. Verse three is either about finishing the thing, or failing depending on what kind of song it is.
Jeremy, methinks you spend a lot, maybe too much, time watching this old Tony. Thanks for the video, which I only just watched, having seen you use a pretty impressive bending brake on the Jeep body rebuild. It certainly overcomes the perennial problem of bending at the edges but rolling in the middle. How well does it handle non-magnetic materials like aluminium, brass and copper? One comment I would make on your winding of the coils initially was don't loop the wire off the reels. Allow them to rotate and take the wire off the same way it was put on. By looping it off, you introduce a spring into the wire which will work harden it and make it more difficult to control which i guess you found out. Regards from Canada's banana belt. 🤞🇨🇦🍌🥋🇺🇦🕊🇺🇲💩🏁👍
"Throw the first switch!" Somehow I think that changed the way I look at life! Although I am not sure how.... Aww never mind! It was amusing nevertheless. Seems like a long way around making a bender to make your Jeep panels Jeremy🤣🤣🤣 Cheers
As you mentioned edge clamps, I thought “Hey man, you can borrow mine!”, followed by “He did this weeks ago, he doesn’t need them…” 😊 But they are the kind with downward pressure… so I’ve got that going for me, which is nice. Curious if there’s a middle road between the microwave parts and Magna Bend design, using magnetic door locks? Have one kicking around… but I also have a big spool of magnet wire.🤔
I very much enjoyed this build, it is a way cool machine. That said, if the point is to make panels for the Jeep then a good old 4' box/pan import can be had for under $1,000. A pro Tinnsmith runs 2-5k and used machines, import and Tinnsmith can be had for much less. Given what the materials alone must have cost and the fact you must power it, a mechanical box/pan brake seems a far better option. Have one, love it.
You perseverance is admirable, I'd have had a minor breakdown after all the wire sprang out and had to be unwound. Looks like a super handy tool, I can see the advantages of this design after you bent the box corners.
Hey Jeremy, well done and your powers of perseverance are truly amazing. I left a comment after part one about also having started to build one but fete has stepped in for me. My wife has been saying for a long while that if I want something to just go and buy it, but of course I couldn’t justify the cost of nearly $5000 here in Australia. Then, last week a magnabend turned up on FB market place only 30 minutes away and at less than half the price of a new one. When I showed my wife she gave me the third degree about why I want it but then I reminded her of what she said so now it’s in my workshop. It’s a metre long and came with the full set of bending plates so I’m very happy. There is one issue with it and that’s the reverse pulse isn’t operating so I’ll be doing some fault finding on that. The seller sold it because it wasn’t being used so hopefully it’s just a sticky relay or a blown resistor or diode. The manual actually has information on what to check to hopefully fix the problem. Anyway, I think you have done a really great job of building your own and the wiring job looks spot on. I hope it gives you years of trouble free service. If you’re interested in the owners manual let me know and I’ll send you the link. Cheers mate, Stuart 🇦🇺
Actually thinning those plates slightly reduced your available force. Not by much but whatever. Having the thick core not symmetric has also some impact. One critical characteristic of the core is how easily goes into magnetic saturation. Some materials are really crappy on this. And the last thing is most carbon steels do hold some magnetism ie you may have problem releasing if you use DC. May cave to apply a small reverse current. Other than that very interesting project.
Good morning I have 48" electro-brake that need's reverse pulse de-magnetizing relay would you be able to tell me what I am looking for and possible location ? Thank you
I’m going to point you to Alan Bottomly’s website, specifically the page on the electrical circuits: aaybee.au/Magnabend/Magnabend%20Circuit%20Operation.html If you can’t find what you need there, he might be able to help you better than I can.
Jeremy it is the same cold rolled steel up here in Canada. You know that integrated supply chain in NAFTA(USMCA). But on a more important note Excellent work 👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing. Be safe 🇨🇦
Faster and better, now that I know the pitfalls to avoid. One of the things that attracted me to doing this was…I couldn’t find another RUclips video of someone doing it. I hope someone else builds one and does a video showing the “right way” to do it.
I feel your pain in that coil wire fail and rewind. Though I would spend a week trying everything other than rewinding and starting again. I've used the factory version of this bender and I loved it. It has its quirks, but it is awesome for doing funky shapes.
This is very cool, and I'm glad you didn't give up after the catastrophic magnet wire eruption. I probably would have sold it for scrap at that point. Could you also hang it upside down from a pulley and use it as a lift for the body?
The cheapest epoxy I could find with a fairly slow hardener. Specifically, I got this stuff from US Composites, and used their “medium” hardener. I use the same epoxy for most of my composites work, but usually use the fast hardener, as I find it still has ample working time, but in this case I wanted a slower (and cooler) cure, since it was going pretty thick.
I suspect that some of the difficulties you were having with the coil are attributable to how you unspooled the wire. The wire should have been unwound off the reel and not pulled over an end, which creates a twist in the wire.
I was following Bottomly’s instructions on this one ) figuring he’s done it enough times to know: “When dispensing the wire do not try to rotate the spool, rather just sit it vertically on the floor (or in an old drum is better) and withdraw the wire axially.”
@@JeremyMakesThings Bottomly may have had a bad experience with a roll continuing to freewheel and the wire getting tangled on the shaft. Nevertheless, it's a bad technique that creates unnecessary stresses in the wire which could cause it to break. Additionally, the twist makes it difficult to get tight coils. It's wrong on so many levels that I would question Bottomly's competency.
@@EDesigns_FL The spool needs a sort of "friction brake" on it to prevent it from unspooling itself when you're unrolling wire - pretty much anything would work - a stick and a c-clamp - just so it doesn't roll entirely freely
I would’ve never thought of doing that to bend sheet metal. I want to make some tube fenders for my TJ and sheet over when done. Might have to make me a smaller version of one of those. Well done.
Definitely read through ALL of the website linked in the description (ok, maybe skip over some of the waveform stuff). And if you go for it, let me know if you have any questions.
looking forwards to this one . well done ,,, I think a two foot one of those would be so handy , and still portable ,, Imagine a decent two foot folder in the boot of the car ,, magic.
That turned out great - your perseverance is admirable, well done!
I'd be curious to find out what Magnetron Brake, version 2, cost in materials. Even ballpark within $50-75 would be great.
Thanks
This is super cool and I appreciate your showing the failures and how you overcame them.
The song of our people: verse one is about making something. Verse two is about making something to make the thing. Verse three is either about finishing the thing, or failing depending on what kind of song it is.
No we aren’t. 😳. We elected Justin Trudeau … twice 😖.
Congratulations Jeremy. That's a hell of a work ethic you have. Inspiring stuff. :)
Jeremy, methinks you spend a lot, maybe too much, time watching this old Tony.
Thanks for the video, which I only just watched, having seen you use a pretty impressive bending brake on the Jeep body rebuild. It certainly overcomes the perennial problem of bending at the edges but rolling in the middle. How well does it handle non-magnetic materials like aluminium, brass and copper?
One comment I would make on your winding of the coils initially was don't loop the wire off the reels. Allow them to rotate and take the wire off the same way it was put on. By looping it off, you introduce a spring into the wire which will work harden it and make it more difficult to control which i guess you found out.
Regards from Canada's banana belt. 🤞🇨🇦🍌🥋🇺🇦🕊🇺🇲💩🏁👍
"Throw the first switch!" Somehow I think that changed the way I look at life! Although I am not sure how.... Aww never mind! It was amusing nevertheless. Seems like a long way around making a bender to make your Jeep panels Jeremy🤣🤣🤣 Cheers
As you mentioned edge clamps, I thought “Hey man, you can borrow mine!”, followed by “He did this weeks ago, he doesn’t need them…” 😊 But they are the kind with downward pressure… so I’ve got that going for me, which is nice.
Curious if there’s a middle road between the microwave parts and Magna Bend design, using magnetic door locks? Have one kicking around… but I also have a big spool of magnet wire.🤔
"Its beeendiiinngg!!! Its beendiiiinnggg!!!" hahahaha you made me crack a laugh in there, thanks for sharing this project! :D
I very much enjoyed this build, it is a way cool machine. That said, if the point is to make panels for the Jeep then a good old 4' box/pan import can be had for under $1,000. A pro Tinnsmith runs 2-5k and used machines, import and Tinnsmith can be had for much less. Given what the materials alone must have cost and the fact you must power it, a mechanical box/pan brake seems a far better option. Have one, love it.
OMG you made the world's largest electric guitar pickup winder. 😂
You perseverance is admirable, I'd have had a minor breakdown after all the wire sprang out and had to be unwound. Looks like a super handy tool, I can see the advantages of this design after you bent the box corners.
Hey Jeremy, well done and your powers of perseverance are truly amazing. I left a comment after part one about also having started to build one but fete has stepped in for me. My wife has been saying for a long while that if I want something to just go and buy it, but of course I couldn’t justify the cost of nearly $5000 here in Australia. Then, last week a magnabend turned up on FB market place only 30 minutes away and at less than half the price of a new one. When I showed my wife she gave me the third degree about why I want it but then I reminded her of what she said so now it’s in my workshop. It’s a metre long and came with the full set of bending plates so I’m very happy. There is one issue with it and that’s the reverse pulse isn’t operating so I’ll be doing some fault finding on that. The seller sold it because it wasn’t being used so hopefully it’s just a sticky relay or a blown resistor or diode. The manual actually has information on what to check to hopefully fix the problem. Anyway, I think you have done a really great job of building your own and the wiring job looks spot on. I hope it gives you years of trouble free service. If you’re interested in the owners manual let me know and I’ll send you the link.
Cheers mate, Stuart 🇦🇺
Makes me happy to so you celebrate the results after so many depressing setbacks. Congratulations! 🥳
Actually thinning those plates slightly reduced your available force. Not by much but whatever. Having the thick core not symmetric has also some impact. One critical characteristic of the core is how easily goes into magnetic saturation. Some materials are really crappy on this. And the last thing is most carbon steels do hold some magnetism ie you may have problem releasing if you use DC. May cave to apply a small reverse current. Other than that very interesting project.
This is awesome. What is the limitations of material thickness/ width for a decent quality bend?
Good followup. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Now that you have mastered the art of electromagnetic clamping, how about a magnetic clamp for the mill?
You're a lot like me, "at least I didn't have to unwind at all" i left 3 wraps on🤣🤣
So you said new they are around 3k, how much did the diy cost ballpark?
Too bad i'd never have the patience to build this but it looks like the best kind of sheet metal brake i've ever seen.
I gasped out loud when the coil popped off.
Interested, thanks for sharing your experience
Hey Jeremy, well done, we are a manufacturer of Magnabend, if you need help, I am willing to help. thank you for sharing.
Thanks! I think I’ve got this thing figured out pretty well now, but I’ll let you know if I need anything.
In my country it's bright mild steel
Good morning I have 48" electro-brake that need's reverse pulse de-magnetizing relay would you be able to tell me what I am looking for and possible location ? Thank you
I’m going to point you to Alan Bottomly’s website, specifically the page on the electrical circuits: aaybee.au/Magnabend/Magnabend%20Circuit%20Operation.html
If you can’t find what you need there, he might be able to help you better than I can.
I really enjoy your witty sarcasm.😂😂😂
We call it CRS cold rolled steel in the UK
As opposed to Hot Rolled
8:19 your face! We've all been there 😂
Definitely the song of our people!
Great job, although, no way did I see you match up a bright finish and an oxide finish screw! My God man.
One is stainless, the hardware store didn’t have enough oxide ones to do the whole thing, so…desperate times call for desperate measures.
Glad you managed to get it done in the end 😀
I shall stick around.
About four minutes in: Man, I feel the frustration. I recognize the frustration. 🧐
ahh i really felt it at about 8 when it all sprung off. shows great resilience that he just keeps going and makes it good.
It came to my attention about here 😂
👍 For the algorithm.
super insane project
I'm pretty sure that you are a huge fan of the Young Frankenstein movie :)
It’s pronounced “Fronkensteen”
Jeremy it is the same cold rolled steel up here in Canada. You know that integrated supply chain in NAFTA(USMCA). But on a more important note Excellent work 👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing. Be safe 🇨🇦
Making the second one would go a lot faster, but, this was a fun watch, keep it coming 👍
Faster and better, now that I know the pitfalls to avoid. One of the things that attracted me to doing this was…I couldn’t find another RUclips video of someone doing it. I hope someone else builds one and does a video showing the “right way” to do it.
The song of our people!
🎶
Brilliant 😅 ❤
Well done mate
Awesome
This is a very interesting project. You had all my attention here. Maybe I should give it a go one day.
I feel your pain in that coil wire fail and rewind. Though I would spend a week trying everything other than rewinding and starting again. I've used the factory version of this bender and I loved it. It has its quirks, but it is awesome for doing funky shapes.
Your best video yet.
I love the Frankenstein references.
You are a fun guy!!
Nice job.
Man i love your videos, you're great Jeremy, thank you for making these videos
This is very cool, and I'm glad you didn't give up after the catastrophic magnet wire eruption. I probably would have sold it for scrap at that point. Could you also hang it upside down from a pulley and use it as a lift for the body?
Awesome
You da man
Great work man. I love your video can't wait for the milling machine rebuild
Amazing, I like the creators that show their mistakes they make me feel I'm not along when I make a mistake and start exploring my language 😅
This is completely entertaining for me. Great work!
Excellent, great progress and entertaining as always. Looking forward to the next instalment
Which epoxy is being used?
I used US Composites laminating epoxy with the medium hardener.
The persistent Jeremy we need -but not- and hopefully deserve. 👏👍
Next is an electromagnetic floor so you can hold it down when in use.
What did you use, specifically, for epoxy?
The cheapest epoxy I could find with a fairly slow hardener. Specifically, I got this stuff from US Composites, and used their “medium” hardener. I use the same epoxy for most of my composites work, but usually use the fast hardener, as I find it still has ample working time, but in this case I wanted a slower (and cooler) cure, since it was going pretty thick.
@@JeremyMakesThingsThank you Jeremy! Greatly appreciated. Love your content and sense of humor.
I suspect that some of the difficulties you were having with the coil are attributable to how you unspooled the wire. The wire should have been unwound off the reel and not pulled over an end, which creates a twist in the wire.
I was following Bottomly’s instructions on this one ) figuring he’s done it enough times to know: “When dispensing the wire do not try to rotate the spool, rather just sit it vertically on the floor (or in an old drum is better) and withdraw the wire axially.”
@@JeremyMakesThings Bottomly may have had a bad experience with a roll continuing to freewheel and the wire getting tangled on the shaft. Nevertheless, it's a bad technique that creates unnecessary stresses in the wire which could cause it to break. Additionally, the twist makes it difficult to get tight coils. It's wrong on so many levels that I would question Bottomly's competency.
@@EDesigns_FL The spool needs a sort of "friction brake" on it to prevent it from unspooling itself when you're unrolling wire - pretty much anything would work - a stick and a c-clamp - just so it doesn't roll entirely freely
"The song of our people," indeed.
Meanwhile Colin Furze slaps two pieces of angle iron to a pair of door hinges and calls it done.
Where is the jeep !!!!!!!!!
It makes a cameo appearance at 20:42.
The next video will be all Jeep.
Ok, this was fun to follow. Great work!
You're definitely no quitter, nice one 👍😊
This chap is fearless, and has a sense of humor....
Ooooh, a fresh upload! Lovely!
“Throw the first switch!”
*toss*
😂😂😂
I would’ve never thought of doing that to bend sheet metal. I want to make some tube fenders for my TJ and sheet over when done. Might have to make me a smaller version of one of those. Well done.
Definitely read through ALL of the website linked in the description (ok, maybe skip over some of the waveform stuff). And if you go for it, let me know if you have any questions.
looking forwards to this one .
well done ,,, I think a two foot one of those would be so handy , and still portable ,, Imagine a decent two foot folder in the boot of the car ,, magic.
Part of the appeal of this design for me is the fact that I can stand it up in the corner when I’m not using it.
Nice build.
Oh lord, the look of defeat while unwinding that coil. Seems like every worthwhile project has a moment like that, eh? Awesome video!
It certainly did fight you all the way, your face when rewinding is priceless.
Always!! It's a good learning experience. Thanks , also to your faithful helper, Doc Flux.