Here is the solution to our lifting problem on the John Deere 2038R Increasing Lift Capacity on a 2038R - Compact Tractor Vs Firewood Totes ruclips.net/video/Km5JYa7cPkk/видео.html Thanks for watching and check out our other John Deere 2038R compact tractor videos at ruclips.net/video/G9ccCrIRsgY/видео.html And subscribe to our channel at ruclips.net/user/Rockhillfarmandhomes Buy me a coffee - www.buymeacoffee.com/rockhillfarm Thanks for watching
Oh I’ve done the time lapse mistake several times, or better yet not even had the camera on! I’d be surprised if any tractor of a comparable size would lift those totes easy. I would estimate the crates I use to weigh over 2,000 lbs but they are slightly bigger then yours. I’m curious to see how the new loader does, it’s definitely stronger from what I’ve seen.
Take 2. :) Glad you're getting some snow! And thanks for sharing this info! I was considering the 2038R, but knowing that it can't lift the loaded totes. That's one of my needs too. Every pound off the forks really helps. If our JD2210 didn't have the Artillian forks, I wouldn't be able to lift nearly as much. Great info in this video!
I think I’m going to get it to the point that it can lift these totes, but even if I do, it will be pushing it I hope these lift capacity videos are helpful to people considering the same tractor.
@@RockhillfarmYT That's one reason I'm considering Kioti or RK for my larger tractor - their lift capacity seems higher. Of course, that's year's down the road, so it's possible even the little 20 hp tractors will lift 3000# by then. :)
My understanding of the lift capacity on these is that they could easily make it lift more but they try not to have the lift capacity be more than it is safe to haul on the frame size of tractor you have. I’m still always gonna want a little bit more than what I have
Thanks for the video Brock... Have been wondering if my 2032R would lift a full IBC tote... Looks like for now we will be using Jason's 4052R if we start storing wood this way. Nice job on the editing and looks like your community is growing quickly! Nicely done! - Happy New Year! All the best! - Josh
@@RockhillfarmYT yeh I’m sure it will do it but I’d like to make it happen with the 2032R... our bigger issue is slopes and stability when moving around any loads on the FELs
If everything goes according to plan this is the first of three videos on how I increased the lift capacity to be able to lift those totes. I should have an answer on that within a few days
If after your upgrades you are still not high enough, I would recommend not unloading and reloading wood. I see you have lots of dirt around, buy a few rail road ties and make a little loading dock. Build little walls with the railroad ties and fill the rest with dirt so you can elevate your tractor hight. Now your tractor doesn't have to lift higher because your whole tractor is elevated and your truck is "lower".
I can fill mine with in 3/4 filled with seasoned oak before my 1025 quits. Can lift about 3 inches off ground but enough to get into my garage from the wood pile 100 yards away. 2021 1025r with frontier forks.
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like it’s still worth doing it that way even if they’re not full After changing the loader I can fill them and set them in the truck or trailer
with the non self leveling loader I could only lift them a couple of inches. After switching to the self leveling loader I can lift a full tote into my truck bed The type of wood and if it is dry also makes a difference
How much do you suppose those totes weigh loaded down? The 2038R is only rated for around 1200lbs at the pivot pins to max height. I almost pulled the trigger on one of those 2038's myself before I bought my mahindra.
@@RockhillfarmYT i wish the various brands would give you specs for capacities 3' in front of the pivot pins so you can figure how much your able to lift. The mechanical disadvantage of using forks kills the lift capacities!
Hi, my blue tractor is better than your green tractor lol. I was thinking of a work around. Have you thought of building a reinforced (rail road tie or lumber) dirt ramp to back your pickup to and then your tractor should be able to go up the ramp and deposit it into the truck bed without much of an issue.
My mind started going to alternatives also LOL like stack them under a tackle and pulley setup then drive under, or another idea was a wench skid and ramp to pull them on, I love Sunday couch farming LOL.
Today I could only lift them a couple inches off the ground but I think by the middle of next week I’m going to lift them all the way up to sit in my truck bed. If I’m wrong and the new loader doesn’t get me to that point I will start looking at other options
Thanks for sharing. I also lift and load 6 foot round bales with this tractor With the new loader it will lift 1800 pounds an inch off the ground or 1400 to full height
Because you asked for some "back and forth" on tractor capabilities, my Kioti CK2610 can lift over 1800# at the pivot pin. Check out the 22:00-31:30 mark in this video. ruclips.net/video/ewQ-jOnu2Rs/видео.html
@@RockhillfarmYT It is just a Kioti CK2610H, which is 25hp. To the best of my knowledge, it is the heaviest tractor with the highest lift capacity of all the 25 hp tractors with the loader arm down by the arm rest. The Branson is a little heavier and has even more lift capacity, but has the loader arm up on the loader frame.
One thing to consider, many times the "off brands" have to offer more for the money since they are not as well known and have fewer dealers. This is not a good thing IF the reliability suffers, but if the brand is reliable, as the Kioti is known to be VERY reliable (actually making many of the compact Bobcat machines) and is fathered by a huge company by the name of Daedong
My understanding of the way this one works is that it maintains whatever angle you already had. You can still change that angle and it will maintain whatever you change it to Not sure if that reads well or makes sense but it doesn’t actually try to keep it level Obviously I’ll know a lot more in a couple days whenever it gets here
Thanks for the feedback. I have looked at some 4 series lately but I don’t think this is an unreasonable expectation for my tractor My first solution is to reduce the weight on the front of the tractor with lighter forks. My second solution is a option that is available from the factory. Neither of those overload the weight limit that the tractor is supposed to carry The third option is verifying that I have the proper hydraulic pressure.
I'll be interested in seeing the results. Ok, you asked for it...... Until then, I've a scientifically proven remedy to your problem. Einstein's law of relativity of 1905, proved that in the tractor world, for every square foot of Kubota orange paint sprayed onto John Deere green or yellow, (yellow drops to 40lb of net lift), you gain 50lbs of lift. (KO/JDG ft²>=50LB) Doesn't matter where. Start maybe with your rear rims, it's safer as it will also add ballast for your new lifting capacity. As we don't know how much new lifting capacity you need, you may have to add a few layers. Sadly, painting multiple layers doesn't add lift, just ballast, as it's clearly stated in Sq ft of coverage. Your hood could be next, followed by the fenders. My aunt has an orange 2038 now and loves it even more. She was skeptical at 1st so she tried it on her JD green spade shovel, and found she could shovel out twice the sht than she used to be able to. That's all I got.
Dude thanks for your videos. I just got a 2038r and really appreciate your Information
Thank you for watching
Here is the solution to our lifting problem on the John Deere 2038R
Increasing Lift Capacity on a 2038R - Compact Tractor Vs Firewood Totes
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Oh I’ve done the time lapse mistake several times, or better yet not even had the camera on! I’d be surprised if any tractor of a comparable size would lift those totes easy. I would estimate the crates I use to weigh over 2,000 lbs but they are slightly bigger then yours. I’m curious to see how the new loader does, it’s definitely stronger from what I’ve seen.
Take 2. :) Glad you're getting some snow! And thanks for sharing this info! I was considering the 2038R, but knowing that it can't lift the loaded totes. That's one of my needs too. Every pound off the forks really helps. If our JD2210 didn't have the Artillian forks, I wouldn't be able to lift nearly as much. Great info in this video!
I think I’m going to get it to the point that it can lift these totes, but even if I do, it will be pushing it
I hope these lift capacity videos are helpful to people considering the same tractor.
@@RockhillfarmYT That's one reason I'm considering Kioti or RK for my larger tractor - their lift capacity seems higher. Of course, that's year's down the road, so it's possible even the little 20 hp tractors will lift 3000# by then. :)
My understanding of the lift capacity on these is that they could easily make it lift more but they try not to have the lift capacity be more than it is safe to haul on the frame size of tractor you have.
I’m still always gonna want a little bit more than what I have
Thanks for the video Brock... Have been wondering if my 2032R would lift a full IBC tote... Looks like for now we will be using Jason's 4052R if we start storing wood this way. Nice job on the editing and looks like your community is growing quickly! Nicely done! - Happy New Year! All the best! - Josh
I’m sure that 4052 won’t have any problems at all, but I think I’m going to get it done with this one
@@RockhillfarmYT yeh I’m sure it will do it but I’d like to make it happen with the 2032R... our bigger issue is slopes and stability when moving around any loads on the FELs
If everything goes according to plan this is the first of three videos on how I increased the lift capacity to be able to lift those totes.
I should have an answer on that within a few days
If after your upgrades you are still not high enough, I would recommend not unloading and reloading wood. I see you have lots of dirt around, buy a few rail road ties and make a little loading dock. Build little walls with the railroad ties and fill the rest with dirt so you can elevate your tractor hight. Now your tractor doesn't have to lift higher because your whole tractor is elevated and your truck is "lower".
God idea. I may end up building a makeshift loading dock as you are describing.
Thanks for watching
Wish I could find a loader for the old ford i still want me a compact tractor
cant wait for the update.
Me either. I’ve been waiting on that loader for 2 months.
Thanks for watching
I can fill mine with in 3/4 filled with seasoned oak before my 1025 quits. Can lift about 3 inches off ground but enough to get into my garage from the wood pile 100 yards away. 2021 1025r with frontier forks.
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like it’s still worth doing it that way even if they’re not full
After changing the loader I can fill them and set them in the truck or trailer
I had the same problem, cure changed out lift cylinders to 2.5"x16" hydraulic lift cylinders, problem solved.
What size IBC totes are those? 330?
275
@@RockhillfarmYT And it stil wouldn't lift? I've got a 2038R without self-leveling. So mine probably won't lift these even at full throttle?
with the non self leveling loader I could only lift them a couple of inches.
After switching to the self leveling loader I can lift a full tote into my truck bed
The type of wood and if it is dry also makes a difference
How much do you suppose those totes weigh loaded down? The 2038R is only rated for around 1200lbs at the pivot pins to max height. I almost pulled the trigger on one of those 2038's myself before I bought my mahindra.
Probably about 1500 pounds.
My new loader increases that lift capacity by a couple hundred pounds which is how I was able to lift it
@@RockhillfarmYT i wish the various brands would give you specs for capacities 3' in front of the pivot pins so you can figure how much your able to lift. The mechanical disadvantage of using forks kills the lift capacities!
Right. I also switched to lighter forks to try to help but it still doesn’t change how far out it is from the pins
@@RockhillfarmYT your doing all the right things! Hydraulic pressure was low on my tractor
I ordered the pressure gauge at least a week ago but it hasn’t come in yet so I haven’t been able to check mine
Hi, my blue tractor is better than your green tractor lol. I was thinking of a work around. Have you thought of building a reinforced (rail road tie or lumber) dirt ramp to back your pickup to and then your tractor should be able to go up the ramp and deposit it into the truck bed without much of an issue.
My mind started going to alternatives also LOL like stack them under a tackle and pulley setup then drive under, or another idea was a wench skid and ramp to pull them on, I love Sunday couch farming LOL.
Today I could only lift them a couple inches off the ground but I think by the middle of next week I’m going to lift them all the way up to sit in my truck bed.
If I’m wrong and the new loader doesn’t get me to that point I will start looking at other options
What kind of blue tractor do you have?
73 hp LS
Yeah, 73 hp should get er done
I have a 2020 35 horse massey, model 1835M. It will lift my 1500 pound round bales up to any height I want
Thanks for sharing. I also lift and load 6 foot round bales with this tractor
With the new loader it will lift 1800 pounds an inch off the ground or 1400 to full height
Because you asked for some "back and forth" on tractor capabilities, my Kioti CK2610 can lift over 1800# at the pivot pin.
Check out the 22:00-31:30 mark in this video. ruclips.net/video/ewQ-jOnu2Rs/видео.html
Cool. How many horsepower is the tractor?
I can get 1800 pounds an inch off of the ground
Waist high it’s about 1400
@@RockhillfarmYT It is just a Kioti CK2610H, which is 25hp. To the best of my knowledge, it is the heaviest tractor with the highest lift capacity of all the 25 hp tractors with the loader arm down by the arm rest. The Branson is a little heavier and has even more lift capacity, but has the loader arm up on the loader frame.
One thing to consider, many times the "off brands" have to offer more for the money since they are not as well known and have fewer dealers. This is not a good thing IF the reliability suffers, but if the brand is reliable, as the Kioti is known to be VERY reliable (actually making many of the compact Bobcat machines) and is fathered by a huge company by the name of Daedong
I watched your video. Nice looking tractor
I would start with checking your hydraulic pressure first. Because it seems your first two changes are expensive
I ordered the loader and the other forks before I realized I couldn’t lift these totes
I ordered the loader at the beginning of November
The thing I don't like about the self leveling loader is you lose control of the leveling.
My understanding of the way this one works is that it maintains whatever angle you already had. You can still change that angle and it will maintain whatever you change it to
Not sure if that reads well or makes sense but it doesn’t actually try to keep it level
Obviously I’ll know a lot more in a couple days whenever it gets here
@@RockhillfarmYT Oh, OK, that is a little different than I thought. That may be acceptable if it has increased lifting capacity.
I have a red tractor. TYM I bought a TYM just because of there lift capacity.
What is TYM?
@@RockhillfarmYT check out Tony's tractor adventure
Not enough tractor. Overload the front axle a bunch, just going to do damage. Step up.
Thanks for the feedback. I have looked at some 4 series lately but I don’t think this is an unreasonable expectation for my tractor
My first solution is to reduce the weight on the front of the tractor with lighter forks. My second solution is a option that is available from the factory.
Neither of those overload the weight limit that the tractor is supposed to carry
The third option is verifying that I have the proper hydraulic pressure.
I'll be interested in seeing the results.
Ok, you asked for it......
Until then, I've a scientifically proven remedy to your problem. Einstein's law of relativity of 1905, proved that in the tractor world, for every square foot of Kubota orange paint sprayed onto John Deere green or yellow, (yellow drops to 40lb of net lift), you gain 50lbs of lift. (KO/JDG ft²>=50LB)
Doesn't matter where. Start maybe with your rear rims, it's safer as it will also add ballast for your new lifting capacity. As we don't know how much new lifting capacity you need, you may have to add a few layers. Sadly, painting multiple layers doesn't add lift, just ballast, as it's clearly stated in Sq ft of coverage. Your hood could be next, followed by the fenders. My aunt has an orange 2038 now and loves it even more. She was skeptical at 1st so she tried it on her JD green spade shovel, and found she could shovel out twice the sht than she used to be able to.
That's all I got.
Solid plan
Later on if it breaks down, will painting it green again get it going, or is it too late at that point😉
Thanks for watching
Not better, one size smaller
Thanks for watching but I’m not sure what you mean
@@RockhillfarmYT I've got the 2032R
I can now lift and load those firewood totes. The biggest difference I made was switching to the MSL loader
Thanks for watching