The amount of racism you need to change the race of a historical character and then to laugh in the faces of the citizens that historical character belongs to and accuse them of racism, is truly galling.
They accuse you of doing the thing they are, in fact, doing. What it does is makes it incredibly difficult to argue because of how irrational they're being. They made skin color the issue, by forcing a change in rhe skin color of the original character into a "minority" color. Yet your the issue, for making their skin color issue an issue. Lol
You gotta love how everything is seen as racist when it goes one way but when it goes the other way nothing is racist and they can just blatantly lie and ignore history. Netflix never should have called this a documentary and maybe they would have gotten away with it.
What dont you like all this diversity?? Isnt this sooo great everybody has representation now even ugly people have representation in films now. If you dont like our movie you are just a wraaaaaaaacist
Thank you! All it'll do is create more resentment, and this time it'll actually be justified! The bureaucracy is so desperate for a quick fix to the problem at large when the sad but simple fact is THERE ISN'T ONE.
The entitlement, arrogance and ignorance is so staggering that it requires a whole country to get up and take legal action. The real Egyptians are taking a stand and protecting their history and culture. I’m glad they’re sticking up for historical facts and their heritage.
Yeah. It's like all those movies that portray ancient Israelites as white people with fair skin, light eyes, etc. Just absurd and blatantly racist. What decent person thinks Jesus, Mary, and Joseph looked like northern Europeans? It's so twisted that people have portraits of a pale-skinned, blonde and blue-eyed Jesus hanging on their walls. Entirely disrespectful. It's really beyond the pale (pun intended) to think that Cleopatra might have been mixed-race--father of Greek origin and mother with some amount of sub-Saharan ancestry. It's not like Nubians hadn't been traveling to Egypt for centuries and at one point conquered and ruled Egypt during the 25th Dynasty.
@@SunnyDaysAOK SMH LOL What's so sad, stupid, and hypocritical about these commenters is they are praising Cleopatra for the same thing Netflix has done. Cleopatra was a Greek, Macedonian that appropriated the Egyptian culture through invasion and those people in the land now calling themselves Egyptians are the genetic by-products of numerous invasions. Netflix could've easily chosen the grandmother of King Tut, Queen Tiye and looking at her image would've shut these "modern Egyptians" up.
Every single person who took part in changing Cleopatra into a black woman: "I'm more important than history, who the fuck is Cleopatra? I am more important than a historical queen and to demonstrate that I'm going to erase the real Cleo from history". It's pure power tripping from people with delusions of grandeur. Including the actress herself. Any sane actor would not want to take a role that insults history itself. Maybe she only did it for the paycheck maybe then I could understand. I would respect her more if she just said "I just did it for the money, I don't actually agree that the real Cleo was black" but she is defending this shit so fuck her. She is not more important than Cleo, and she never will be.
Modern Egyptians are Arabs ,so they have nothing to do with ancient Egyptians,true descendants of ancient Egyptians are Copts who are minority in todays Egypt
I’m Egyptian and I hate how this person called all of us racist because we don’t want our history to be misrepresented and we just want people to learn our actual history
Ancient Greece embraced many of the Egyptian innovations, built most of its early culture upon those same foundations. To go against Egypt is to go against one of the Cradles of the Western Civilisation!
This is a problem in America. This problem is because we have a political party (Democrat Party) that uses racism and other forms of turning one American against another, it’s just pure hate.
It honestly tire me that Netflix add/change a pointless detail to a character just for "diversity". It's like pretending to like diversity without understanding it. I do wonder how they would think if we tried to cast a black actor as George Washington or Lincoln...
History, you say? So where's all that backlash for white people playing Egyptians. Those Persians had all the smoke for a black girl playing Cleopatra, and the funny thing is, Egypt claim it has nothing to do with Greece and their Cleopatra. Since she isn't really Egyptian. So I would ask why so serious and now want to sue? I smell selective outrage. 🤣🤦🏾
@@reddnucklesFunny you could not see the difference. The old Cleopatra MOVIE was not trying to make a statement with the "white casting", and was a MOVIE. This is a "DOCUMENTARY" featuring a black Cleopatra, with "experts" claiming it is legit. The fact you could not figure this out by yourself is the only outrage I have! 🤦♂
@@ricsim78 I can tell you were very emotional typing that response to my comment. I didn't mention anything about about the old Cleopatra movies. High emotions is the #1 factor for selective outrage and you're clearly guilty of it sir. The History Channel have a large catalogs of Egyptian documentaries dated in the late 80s, all of the 90s and 2000s. What did you see on the majority of those films white americans playing Egyptians. No one said a word. The first "Documentary" showing a black woman playing a white historic figure broke the internet. You say it's not about race? All you hear is "they just need to make it historically accurate" and I would agree. C'mon..the modern day Egyptians never cared for Cleopatra why now? Because if it was another studio behind the film they wouldn't care. So they use the guides of racism to vent their frustration, so they can make a case to sue Netflix. AkA selective outrage, in its natural form. The only color those Egyptians care about is money green and they pulling everyone into their B.S. Why sue? Ms Cleo don't represent you. I would understand if Greece sues Netflix.🤦🏾🥱
Exactly. Additionally I find it ironic that the "documentary" that racially discriminate screeches racial discrimination when they get called out on their shit.
These aren’t lies being spread, it’s just ya’ll can’t take true historical facts that wasn’t taught in school for a reason and that’s main reason why they canceled it!!
To hear the actress call the ENTIRETY OF THE NATIVE COUNTRY racist because they want proper representation is quite possibly the most moronic thing I’ve witnessed.
These actors must stop believing that they are intelligent!! ASAP When and why did they start believing that anyway? Holywod destroyed minds of generations which are incapable of any critical thought.
The problem isn't Netflix. The problem is an entire movement of "black history" trying to make Cleopatra and egypt black. Metatron has spoke of this, no wonder Egypt respond since they're pissed with this movement
@@ReginaMills-c4d they're trying to take all thw egyptian heritage, achievement and all for "the black ancient people" a lot of egyptiologists and people are pissed bc of thia
Yeah! Sure and ya' betcha! Let's see uh, Samuel L. Jackson cast as 'Honest' Abe Lincoln perhaps? Can't wait for THAT one myself! You people ARE some petty MF's I'd like for you to know! I wonder if any of you are over the age of 40 AT LEAST considering the level-or lack thereof-in the course of maturity.
First, they ruin snow white which ruins many peoples childhood including mine, now they ruin Egypt actual history and got sued by the whole nations lmao
😂😂😂 well... We do have black skinned people here in south india. Can we do acting??? As this actress talks about skin color... There are other dark skin color people in other countries too. Y don't this actress give up her role my region dark skin person??
I hate the fact that this channel is clickbaiting and ragebaiting at the same time . The lawsuit is still ongoing and so the dude shouldn't use "loses" but "is about to lose" or something else. Although I agree that the documentary should be as accurate as possible including Cleopatra's race I doubt Egypt is gonna win this case, especially for 2 Billion dollars .
Congratulations to the people of Egypt for not accepting such a disrespect to their culture. No entity should be able to rewrite the history of a country
Yeah, but we have another problem 😂; Denzel Washington has been chosen to play the role of the famous Carthaginian general who challenged Rome during the First Punic War, between Carthage (Tunisia/North Africa) and Rome. And guess what? Hannibal was never Black. I hope Tunisia will initiate a lawsuit like Egypt did.
@@Coccinelle74 They should. Movies that want to be historical should at least cast actors that at least resemble the historical figures they are supposed to portray.
@@MyTripToThePhilippineswhat’s funny is she won’t actually be there. Because while she’s probably as insufferable, sadly Rachel somehow has a bigger career. Was this actress in anything else we even know?
TO BE FAIR while I’m not sure about Netflix specifically but a lot of American companies are big/more powerful then SOME countries like Disney is practically a mini country that exists in both the physical and digital worlds Elon musk the richest person on earth could straight up buy certain countries if one man can do that imagine what a whole mega corporation can do
It’s wild to me that the actor thinks she’s that important that she takes the lawsuit as a personal attack on herself and her skin tone. The amount of delusion and audacity and quite frankly the stupidity it takes to feel like that, is mind blowing to me. The narcissism in society is completely out of control.
This ACTRESS (so an expert at NOTHING let alone history) thinks it's more logical that think she's right, rather than take the word of The Entire Country of Egypt who say she's plain wrong about her historical fact-checking. Nope, she's right and they're racists, all however-many hundreds of millions of people living in Egypt-- (who are African, so yes a Black woman calling an entire African country racist in 2023 lol) You can't make up this kind of entitlement. Only in Hollywood!
She's also blind to how racist it is to change Egyptian history. But then again, she's been told that only white people can be racist. So it is even more puzzling that she'd be accusing Egyptians of being racist. Apparently being black, especially in America, means everyone is racist!
Her skin tone is mixed so she has nothing on that front going on for her. She is of no race, no historical heritage, just a fleeting memory in those who are still alive and care for her.
@@valmarsiglia I said "somewhat" movies with the Roman Empire were never with a realistic depiction. For example you always saw the colosseum, even of lot of them were set before it was built, but for a narrative and scene impact purpose it always worked. Romans stated trying to integrate different cultures right after they expanded outside Italy, because even holding their "first provincia" was difficult because of the various italic cultures. So if you are not doing an history documentary, showing the romans as multiethnic make sense.
@@emib6599 Multiethnic? Yeah, one looked Swiss, another looked Dutch, another looked English... especially Caesar, who looked like an SS Obersturmbannführer. 😅
@@emib6599 OMG, looking at the IMDB page, all the Romans are played by Englishmen and one Irishman. They went out of their way to hire the most pallid, blue-eyed Brits and Irishmen they could find to underscore the Romans' "whiteness." 😅
Cleopatra was of Greek descent and wasn't the most beautiful woman in the world. She was, however, very educated, knew how to speak the language of the people she ruled over, and very charismatic and charming.
If you think about it, her being so erudite, charming, intelligent and charismatic made her more beautiful then just her looks. Being able to hold an intellectual conversation in those days was the height of attractiveness.
Most assuredly none of us have as long as the character in focus is not Black or even Brown. Personally I at MY age cannot recall but only a very FEW 'documentaries' of any other than white people and some so obscure as to my having to look them up prior to the documentary. Kind of like watching an episode of "Finding Your Roots" as I can recall that once the hip-hop stars had been covered and the ratings had been leveling off it became a requirement of mine at least to look up the people prior to the episode as it was "so who the HELL are THEY?" time and again each week.
What is really funny now is anybody that says they dont like a movie or film made is a racist, everything is racist. My chicken the other day laid a white egg instead of brown, great now I have a racist chicken, what to do, how do I explain to my chicken she is now a racist.
Well done Egypt - for protecting your history from these political nonsense Sue them into oblivion Sue the actress personally for calling Egypt racist because they are preserving and protecting their history and their Greek Queen's important role in Egyptian history
I think the man who filed the lawsuit should file another lawsuit against the actress for defamation. Let her defend her claims that his lawsuit is rooted in racism in a court of law.
Agree. Her answer is outrageuos and insane, what kind of media person can casually said something like "oh, entire country dont want me to falsify their history? They just threatened and racist!". She *must* bear legal responsibility for this, so as not to create a precedent when a celebrity can be as much an asshole and a boor as she wants and still go unpunished.
@@handsomeman-pm9vyHistory channel did a 45 minute show on how Cleopatra may have been black that was enough to convince everyone to make this schlock.
I turned off a Netflix show as soon as a VERY black King Henry VIII came out. Wouldn't have even known it was KH but someone had to address him with his name right when he came in the room. I was like wth? 😳
Then there was the British series about Anne Boleyn, who was portrayed as a black woman, or the entire play Hamilton where the founding fathers are men "of colour." This all might seem harmless enough, but there will be entire generations of people who believe these things and that will be the demise of history and culture as we know it.
@@Brokencode_12 Actually she was Hannibal Barca using dark magic he found from the Chinese to change race, age and gender in a plan to sabotage the Roman Empire
So let me get this straight: they made a documentary radically (and against basic historical fact) claiming that Cleopatra was black because Egypt is an African country. _But,_ when Egypt itself calls out this claim, they’re racist towards black people? 😂 Edit: I know not all Africans are black. That’s kind of the point I was making.
There seems to be this mentality that if you oppose anything involving a black person that regardless of your nationality you are indeed racist. The stubbornness of this train of thought is appalling and dangerous.
"100 percent fundamentally rooted in racism" . I wonder what the actress would say if they made a "documentary" about Rosa Parks and cast Meryl Streep. Would she object? I wonder what she would "fundamentally" root her opinion in?
@@azizabahati7037 She may not be American but she'd DEFINITELY throw a hissy fit. Seems the type to me. And, of course, no such action should ever be taken. But she'd likely want death to the creators if they did it for a joke.
That older lady saying that her grandmother believed cleopatra was black and not a product of greek incest is crazy af. Schools can say whatever they want but you gotta read the actual sources from antiquity to learn who she was, it’s not hard to find out.
Who’s her grandma anyways? I didn’t see anything that her grandma is some expert in Egyptian history. So what does her very subjective opinion have to do in a „documentary“?
I read a biography of Cleopatra not too long ago. She was not a notable beauty, but was well-educated, charming, seductive, and intelligent. She came from a Macedonian family, descended from one of Alexander the Great's generals, which had been very inbred for several generations. The family (Ptolemies) was notable for killing close relatives in order to gain the throne. Cleopatra herself was forced to marry her younger brother, whom she later went to war with, and he ended up slain in battle. She seduced and had children with the Roman generals Julius Caesar and Mark Antony in order to gain power and to survive her siblings' plots. She probably fell in love with Marc Antony and they married. They both committed suicide when they lost the war against the first Roman emperor, Augustus, whose sister was Mark Antony's former wife, Octavia. Octavia later raised Marc Antony's children by Cleopatra.
That lady's grandma probably also told her to take Robitussin(™️) for a toothache. Being a black grandma doesn't give her any authority over anything, including history.
Until DNA testing became affordable many American Blacks believed they had Native American in them. Same issue, their parents and grandparents had told them so. I remember RUclips being flooded by videos of these people getting their Ancestry results to find out they were 0% Native American and more often than not, part White. Not everything you’re family says is true. In reality their ancestors didn’t want to admit that their skin was lighter because they had White in them. Or their features were different than most Africans for the same reason. Native Americans we’re an acceptable scape goat since they obviously weren’t plantation and slaves owners. Ancestors of Black slaves don’t have any family records though (none going back to their African roots and most not even any of their family in America before the civil war), so most of the time they really didn’t know their origins. This Cleopatra thing is different though. It is very well documented and proven historical fact that she was Greek. Nobody questions that Mark Antony was Roman! What baffles me most though, is why not really claim their own heritage? There were and are amazing sub Saharan African cultures. The Kushites built more pyramids than the Egyptians. They were a powerful nation that even took over Egypt for a short period of time. Their surviving artwork and statues show them looking Black. Darker skin, different facial features, etc… Why not do a real documentary on them? Be proud of your own cultures and stop trying to change PROVEN history.
Well it hasn't even happened, this guys title is clickbait. The lawsuit has barely even started yet, no one has won any money. There's no way Egypt will actually get $2B from this lawsuit, they're dreaming if they think that will happen.
Isn't this a type of cultural appropriation? Claiming an entire culture and group as your own and then shamelessly flaunting it in a movie is pretty wild.
That’s Murica for you. Take someone else’s culture and history and portray it as something completely different (think of the Mel Gibson’s film Braveheart, which was so historically inaccurate it was untrue and caused problems here in the UK). Why didn’t Netflix make a show about the Kushite Kings and Queens (ancient Egyptian 25th dynasty) instead of hijacking a Ptolomy Queen (Ptolomy was a General of Alexander the Great’s)? Flippin’ ‘eck, my classmates and I were taught about the Kushites over 50 years ago in school. When Alexander died, without an heir, his Generals carved up his empire between themselves: ¥ Ptolemy - Egypt ¥ Seleucus - Mesopotamia, and all of the East ¥ Antigonus - much of Asia Minor ¥ Lysimachus - Thrace, and ¥ Antipater - mainland Greece Kushite Kings who ruled Nubia and Ancient Egypt: ¥ Piye - 747-716 BCE ¥ Shabaqa (716-702 BCE) ¥ Shebitqu (702-690 BCE) ¥ Taharaqa (690-664 BCE), and ¥ Tanutamani (664 BCE) Amazing that I found this online in just a few minutes. This programme should have been listed as a “mocumentary” and definitely NOT a documentary. Are the researchers at Netflix so bad at their jobs that they can’t find any real information with all the resources they have at hand? Heads need to roll.
@@enkisdaughter4795 I think it's an issue of "building on an established brand". Companies see it this way: Which will make more money? Telling the true story of an Egyptian Monarch from one of the Nubian dynasties that no one has heard of? Or taking a leader that has name recognition, and insisting that they're black to capture a portion of that audience? If they cared about presenting truth and elevating real black stories, they could. They just don't think that would be profitable.
Its the DEFINITION of Cultural Appropriation. And its the absolute worst kind of it. Imagine if we made a "Documentary" about Shaka (the Zulu chieftan, also known as "The Black Napoleon") and made the entire cast white with the director saying "I dont give a shit what schools say, Shaka was White!" People would lose their freaking minds. That there are those who don't see this as horribly racist and disgusting is incredible to me.
@enkisdaughter4795 the actress who played cleopatra and is screaming racism is actually quite British herself so I don't think it's an American issue alone
@@theimp5901no it didn't. The Anne Boelyn drama was produced and broadcast by Channel 5 in the UK. 😂😂😂😂 The netflix docudrama Blood, Sex and Royalty had Amy James-Kelly (who is white) playing Anne Boyelyn.
But but it is a documentary, Cleopatra lived in Egypt. So, we have one known fact, so that makes it a documentary, right? Since we have one right fact all our other ridiculous claims have to be true as well? How dare you say our facts are wrong, you must be raciest. Sarcastic mode off, or is it how these people really think?
"My Acting is Terrible, My Knowledge of History is Wrong, I'm Being sued for spreading Misinformation... they must hate me be because of the color of my skin..." I Love how it's always about Skin Color but never about The Actual Situation.
The woke never proposed that we should not care about skin color. They care about skin color very much. Telling a wokie that you're "color blind" is actually offensive to them. They want you to FOCUS on race and consider skin color the most important characteristic a person has. The woke think of people in terms of groups, not as individuals - which is the crux of bigotry. They do not believe in equally, either. They believe that some groups should be elevated while other groups are denigrated and suppressed... depending on skin color (and victim status). But that's not racism! 😆
You know nothing about Egyptian culture....The People you see in Egypt at the moment are NOT the indigenous people of Egypt and are mostly descendants of either, Roman, Greek, Assyrian ,Persian or Ottoman invaders etc...Google the ''THE FORGOTTEN PYRAMIDS OF SUDAN''....They are NOT forgotten by the way, Someone just doesn't want to mention the fact that there are more Pyramids in Sudan because that would ERASE A LOT OF WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT AS HISTORY IN SCHOOLS! People living in Egypt at the moment are as Indigenous as Europeans in the Americas! I am a history graduate from Africa and the History we are taught and know if we tell it Hollywood and the West might not like it. Egyptians and mostly North Africans don't call themselves Africans for a reason and they NEVER try to tell us about these history because they know we know...
America whitewashes Egyptian history since the beginning of the entertainment industry so when someone counters it I suspect Americans are actually the ones that are mad. It's most likely not Egypt doing this but Americans who don't like someone countering their propaganda. No doubt same people who financed this video.
George Washington was also black, so was Jesus, and Christopher Columbus, Einstein, Alexander the Great, Hitler, Isaac Newton, and Moses. My grandmother told me.
When I lived in Egypt this was a thing off and on. Really, the Egyptians are very proud of their heritage, and they just seemed tired having to defend Cleopatra (who is very much loved) all this time against misrepresentation. Egyptians aren't uneducated people.
Something else of note. Not only is Cleopatra shown to be black, but almost every Egyptian shown is portrayed as sub-Saharan African black. Now historically there would have been some black folks in Egypt, but not almost every person as shown on screen. So not only Cleopatra herself is shown in a non historically accurate light, but most of the other people are as well.
Correct, Egypt has more in common with Mediterranean Europe and the middle east than it ever did with sub-Saharan Africa. It's why Egypt and the sub-Saharan look so different then and now. It's two different places with very different influences.
Nubians were not allowed into Egypt by well known decrees, and Bantu( west congoid sub saharans, the ones desperately trying to lie about everything, because... feelings...) didnt know Egypt existed.... SMH
@@logikgirl12 That's Black Land... not Land of The Black. Stop being delusional. The word "Kemet" referring to soils that is black in color. Not the people.
We just need to ignore the faces on the sarcophaguses , statues, wallpaintings. Also ignore the facial reconstructions that happened using the skulls of mummies. Those people don't look like black people. Also most black people in the US have western african roots. But Egypt is not in West Africa. It would be like an Italian claiming Norways history.
@@divisionagentbailey6727 Cleopatra's father was Ptolemy XII Auletes, who was a Macedonian (greek territory) general. Cleopatra was born in Alexandria to a Macedonian man and woman. She was born in Egypt, but she is Greek.
@johnprice4847 yes and a the empire that a man now known as Great Al, conquered a lot of the world, including Egypt (who welcomed him wilingingly and who much preferred him to the previous Persian rule) which promptly went to Ptolemy son of his general Lagos, (uh from my vague memory) and a few generations later of ptolmic pharoahs you get wabam, lady cleo the woman in question
To that woman's grandmother who claims Cleopatra is black, I want to know what her grandmother would feel like if Jennifer Lawrence were to portray Rosa Parks in a Rosa Parks documentary.
Martin Luther King was a white guy, a swede blond guy that liberated blacks and whites alike, enslaved by blacks. Roots by kinta kunte is about a poor white blonde Russian family enslaved by big bad blacks, they fight for them freedom. Nelson Mandela was a polish blonde guy that ended South African aparthide. One day I'll see documentaries like that :D
Cleopatra was Greek according to history. When Alexander the Great's generals divided up the areas Alexander had conquered, Ptolemy got the land of Egypt and surrounding areas. Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek ethnicity and, therefore, not black skinned. But, I forgot, certain people don't read history...🙄
And we have another problem 😂; Denzel Washington has been chosen to play the role of the famous Carthaginian general who challenged Rome during the First Punic War, between Carthage (Tunisia/North Africa) and Rome. And guess what? Hannibal was never Black. I hope Tunisia will initiate a lawsuit like Egypt did.
Also, most Egyptians and other North Africans are not black. North Africans are more closely related to West Asians than they are to black Africans in sub Saharan Africa.
The ironic thing about this statement is that the Anne Boleyn series is probably one of the most historically accurate depictions of that whole scenario, and at no point do they claim the race of the actress portraying her is meant to reflect the race of the actual Boleyn. It’s a historical drama series, and a drama is much different than a documentary. These are actors who are acting out a role. With Cleopatra however, they’ve gone explicitly out of their way to say “Cleopatra is definitively black and that is final,” in abject defiance of the actual truth. This is a purported documentary that claims to be the voice of the truth, yet is insistent on a blatant inaccuracy as the truth.
While I agree that the Cleopatra documentary was historically inaccurate crap, the lawsuit is problematic. If successful, it would set a legal precedent for future lawsuits against the entertainment industry, based only on historical inaccuracy. This is not the solution to the problem.
@@spentlizard353 "...at no point do they claim the race of the actress portraying her is meant to reflect the race of the actual Boleyn." Okay, I'll call bullshit on that. The race of the actor is itself a statement when it comes to playing the an actual person from history, any claim otherwise is a bald face lie and gaslighting. There is no shortage of white English actresses who they could have cast and there is no reason not to have other than the show producers racism. Go ahead and lie to us that you'd be okay with casting John Travolta to play Nelson Mandela in a documentary about how he was imprisoned for being a black agitator during South Africa's apartheid.
@@spentlizard353 it isnt only Anne Boleyn they have done it too tho Joan D'Arc was race swapped. so was McBeth (Mac Bethaid mac Finláech) was race swapped. Jarl Haakon was race and gender swapped somehow thats fine to do but i bet my left arm that if a white actor would play Martin Luther King in a movie the world would be too small go sell your double standarts elsewere dude for real
Americans. With only one word you can explain the lack of knowledge, respect, context, those people have; the lack and misinterpretation of what culture is, the narrow view of the 'time' (I mean, my house is older than US itself) the need to always have someone or something to go back at (and if they don't have it, they fabricate it) The older I get, the more I'm convinced they should not touch things that aren't 'theirs' without supervision because they'll dumbify and ruin 'em. Obviously, greeks and italians are ferociously with egyptians in this! We show them how our wars, dominations, alliances, our ancestors cutting each other's throats or learn from one another, or love one another, through millennia all that tie us as sibilings!!
I think she's kind of right on this one. I think division on classes, religion and tribes were more prominent during ancient history, not skin tone. Racism is relatively new. It started with Darwin and his theory of evolution categorizing human beings into ''evolve'' and ''not evolve'' groups and trying to use science and genetics to prove their point.
@@rosewielgo3594 well you clearly haven't read this thread. Racism existed BEFORE mankind. This is part of our religion as stated above so to you your belif and to us, ours.
I think the phrase that took the biscuit for me was “…suing a “whole” streaming service” as if that is a larger entity than a “whole” country! Who were they going to sue? The actors? The directors? No, of course you are going to sue the whole streaming service.
I'm shocked how literally hundreds of people at NetFlix could have stopped this lying documentary... but the executives, director, producers, many actors, many lawyers, many senior staff all agreed to create a lying documentary. It's the equivalent of Apple releasing an apple watch which removes two of the numbers from the clock.... like seriously how stupid are these people at NetFlix?
My man, we're living in a cyberpunk dystopia where companies are often larger and more powerful that countries. If Netflix was a country and its market cap (189.24 billion USD) was GDP, it would be number 70 out of 200+ countries. Egypt is number 21 ($1.264 trillion USD GDP). So Egypt is like 7 times larger, but still in the same ballpark.
Hopefully Netflix learned their lesson. Hiring Jada Smith to make an abysmal financial failure but then having to turn around a pay legal fees to defend yourself in court.
In George Orwell's book 1984 "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. History has stopped."
The BBC just made a propaganda piece about black people (not some ancient tribe just crawling out wherever that aren't much of anything yet, actual black people in the modern sense) being native Europeans all along. Like how black people are the "real natives" in the US. People are insane. I've come across groups on here claiming to be the true Asians too. This black nationalist sht is getting ridiculous and more pathetic. It's embarrassing.
These people are just making everyone resent black people……… I thought they wanted to get rid of racism………but the way they are going about it is only promoting racism…………these people are utterly and horrifically just inept and have no self awareness and sense of perspective, just me me me victimized mentality. Nobody respects crybabies, every race was enslaved at one point in history, but if you ask a black person they would try to discredit these facts………… sigh…..
Besides the race thing they also tried to paint Cleopatra as a warrior queen which she definitely wasn't. She was extremely politically savvy and that made her more dangerous because she could maneuver around her opponents without facing them in combat. She was also brilliant in poisons so she knew pretty complex chemistry for the time as a woman which should be told.
The actress failed to realize that it’s not about her or her skin tone. It’s about being disrespectful to their history. It’s almost the same as if somebody reversed the roles in a slavery movie or I guess reversed the skin tones. It would be equally as disrespectful and historically inaccurate.
Blacks are fed victimhood stories their entire life. They all think they’re the main character in a movie about oppression and nobody else ever experiences anything remotely close to oppression
Falsely claiming they act purely out of racism is pretty up there in terms of 'actual malice', malicious intent, which is the central burden of evidence in most defamation laws. 'Course, Egypt being defamed, their country would actually have jurisdiction, so they wouldn't even need to wage a case in the US with its weird laws.
And just where is she truly wrong in what she had stated? If up to You People NOBODY CAN BE RACIST-that is as long as You white People aren't in the crosshairs.
@nvelsen1975 Hokey Smoke! Talk about dredging up anything and everything to pose the possibility of even a shadow of the very THOUGHT of NOT being the center of characterization(s) that is tantamount to it being considered as the very definition of libel and/or slander. Do you now see how YOU PEOPLE sound in your attempts at somehow leveling the playfield so that YOU People may retain the notion as the priority in Race relations in this matter? Unbelievable......
Next time they should make a documentary of Abraham Lincoln played by a black actor. "I don't care what they tell you in American history, Abraham Lincoln was black."
Its kindof disturbing how a large percentage of Americans think all of africa is black. They know so little about geography and yet feel they can lecture others about it Also "racism is a very modern ideology" WHAT?!?!
I'm one of those who knows very little about geography. I've known this for years. I recently decided to look at a world map and see where a lot of things are. I still feel kind of ignorant, because I would have to really study it to really have it in memory. But it's not a bad idea to pull out a map from time to time and see where a lot of places are that we all talk about so much, and where they are in relation to one another.
I agree with you 💯, sadly this is the result of the American school system, most schools don’t teach World Geography or History. If you don’t have some sort of factual knowledge of the past, you’ll be easily fool in the present.
@@BWings-ub4ej yeah because sadly instead of studying world history or anything it's always about MERICA!! I learned nearly nothing about WW2 pre pearl harbor, the battles we were ever taught were the American ones, and it was pushed the idea that america singlehandedly saved ww2
The problem with the Netflix so called documentary about Cleopatra is that it's not based on historical facts but more on woke ideological beliefs. The documentary itself is what's racist and not the criticism of it. The criticism is about the racism in the documentary.
Because it's the only argument she could present. It's like having a business card in your pocket that says YOU ARE A RACIST instead of actual information.
I dunno. Maybe at that time it wasn't a big deal. They may have had much bigger problems, like the Romans!!! To use today's feelings about something that occurred 2000+ years ago is just as inappropriate as Netflix changing history.
The stupid part is that Netflix could have kept the cast the same, and no one would have said a thing. But they just had to turn the DEI up to 11, blackwash Cleopatra and anyone that called out their lies they label them a racist. Netflix went looking for a fight and now their crying that someone punched them in the face.
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinesemeemaw left out the fact that kangz owned slaves. Those kingdoms didn't just pop out of the ground by them raising their fist in the air and saying "Pride powers activate"
Hannibal is Phoenician. Hannibal had Light brown hair, fair Mediterranean skintone, and light brown eyes. Hannibal was literally called "Bane Tsur" aka "The Son of Tyre," and therefore if anyone is actually eligible for hannibal, it would be a lebanese actor, since lebanese have the highest percentage of Phoenician Dna in the world (93%) and still practice phoenician customs (like dabke and labbadeh hat)
@sahiltamuli1753 I think it's because the original poster made them african/black and Indian - and apparently it's not racist to misrepresent a historical figure if the actor is black. That's my interpretation anyhow.
Mithradates was cleopatra's father. The policy bloodline ran its course by cleopatra n her siblings time. Native Egyptians ARE black... u can look at them and see it. In this day and age they are probably mixed with lots of different bloods going back centuries but black blood goes back 1000's of years. Some British scientists found what they believed to be Arsinoe ( cleop sister) remains and sed that she was 1/2 black. They did a docu about it on the history Channel going back some yrs.
@@Lucinda-zr9su north africa,, egypt ,morocco is different from tanzania, nigeria, congo , egypt is so close to israel and is very different both countries invaded each other and got invaded multiple times
Everyone who was saying Cleopatra was black was just looking at Egypt on a map and going "omg hey, it's in AFRICA, who would have thought? Omg that means Cleopatra was black omg"
The most ironic thing about this is that the grandma, or really any other descendant of the African slaves, has no connection to Egypt. The slaves came from Sub-Saharan Africa, nowhere near Egypt.
@HubiKushi Even worse, Western Sub-Saharan Africa. But I think the problem is these people equivocate 'African' with black and are ignorant of the fact that numerous different races and ethnicities live in different parts of the continent. It's really a product of the ignorance of many Americans which has become a mythology even for some actually from Africa.
I just love how if anyone has a problem with the 'Documentary", or the actors, then you must be 'Scared', 'Racist" or 'threatened' by whatever they have changed to fit their own idea.
It's funny because Elizabeth Taylor's casting in the Hollywood classic as Cleopatra was mocked at the time by some critics. Turns out her look is a bit more historically accurate than people once thought.
she was just too beautiful. but at that time, cleopatra was believed to be a very beautiful woman. so, i agree. her portray as the queen is more make sense.
Caesar and Anthony could have and did have any woman they wanted. And BOTH fell for the same woman. Anthony even gave back his wife (Augustus's sister) and caused even more trouble for himself to appease Cleopatra. She must have been a goddess.
@@brianlara8651She wasn't. We know how she looks because there are portraits and statues of her done by people who saw her. What she was is very charming and extremely smart. She was fascinating to them and even her critics(of which there were many at the time) would agree that she was unusually sharp.
That would partially be my money. I don´t look forward to a Netflix without money, cause that surely will not improve the quality of entertainment I get
the lawsuit is not against her skin being black, it is against the historical inaccuracy of a whole country, of a whole civilisation. Not every single thing is about race
The actress might be the worst of all. To be faced with undeniable evidence and the anger of an entire country and have it only strengthen your belief is something so wildly irrational it's unbelievable.
I'm tempted to say that this is a result of the culture of empowerment through victimization that has been adopted in recent years, however in a way it might be even simpler than that. These are Hollywood actors and actresses, would-be celebrities, who by virtue of their occupation and temperament are among the most egocentric and selfish human beings alive. Just a celebrity being a celebrity.
Not really, you should know the radical far Left cannot be bothered with historical accuracy or anything that impedes their view of the world. They have been re-writing our textbooks for decades, successfully influencing generation after generation with their version of events. Young minds are the most vulnerable, easily influenced and molded during their formative years. The far Left has control of the teacher's unions and the public schools. That should be enough to cause outrage and alarm but people are too conditioned to question those in authority.
All Netflix had to do was say inspired by true story instead of saying it’s a documentary and based on true stories. With it being inspired you then allowed to put your own narrative into it with whatever political bs agenda you want.
@@mikepatrona472true, and it would still be racist to make Cleopatra black; but Netflix would at least have an argument if they didn't call it a documentary.
@@mikepatrona472 oh yeah I’m not saying that it would it do better or people would be more open to seeing it. Just that Netflix would have a argument not claiming it as the truth.
@@annihilator2188 What do you even mean by black? They made Cleopatra mixed-race, which isn't that unlikely given the real history of people migrating from Nubia into Egypt. The Nubians did conquer and rule Egypt at one point. We know that Cleopatra's father was a Ptolemy but we don't know anything about her mother. Racial purity wasn't a thing because the concept of race as it is understood today did not exist then. Realistically, kings had concubines of different backgrounds. It's far worse when we see Jesus portrayed as a blonde, blue-eyed Scandinavian or the rest of the ancient Israelites portrayed by northern Europeans who look nothing like the indigenous people of the region. The Mizrahi Jews who did not migrate to Europe sure heck weren't considered white by the Ashkenazi Jews who founded modern Israel.
It's probably her granny who also told her that Hannibal was Black 😂 because we have another problem; Denzel Washington has been chosen to play the role of this famous Carthaginian general who challenged Rome during the First Punic War, between Carthage (Tunisia/North Africa) and Rome. And guess what? Hannibal was never Black. I hope Tunisia will initiate a lawsuit like Egypt did.
they got sued and lost 2 billion to Egypt... for a 3% audience score . the only people that watched that disaster was their INTENDED AUDIENCE and their score was 3%🤣🤣🤣
They haven't lost the Lawsuit yet. And they probably won't lose 2 Billion. I am fully on your side but why is everyone lying? I was actually confused about if the Lawsuit is already over or not in the beginning.
The people that are saying Egypt are racist for saying this, Make a documentary of Martin Luther King Jr and have Robert Downy Jr play as him, if race means nothing it shouldn’t mean anything right? Like where are these same people that are always saying that actors should look like thier character or so. It’s crazy!
Huge difference between an actor blacking up to play a black character and a character blacking up especially if that character is portrayed as an idiot.@@acatte1
You can paint Cleopatra blue for all anybody cares but don't call it a documentary unless you have some hard facts to back it up!
True
Yep that’s the thing. Netflix messed up with that one
The BBC would have eaten this up for Doctor Who
You now have me envisioning a cleopatra in the style of Zoidberg, maybe she could be half crab!
Bingo
The amount of racism you need to change the race of a historical character and then to laugh in the faces of the citizens that historical character belongs to and accuse them of racism, is truly galling.
@@caveatlector2671 they dont even realise they are doing it, self awareness is their weakest trait.
They accuse you of doing the thing they are, in fact, doing.
What it does is makes it incredibly difficult to argue because of how irrational they're being.
They made skin color the issue, by forcing a change in rhe skin color of the original character into a "minority" color.
Yet your the issue, for making their skin color issue an issue. Lol
Let's do a documentary on Martin Luther King and use a white actor and see what happens ....
Yeah, nothing could ever go wrong with that idea. Nope. Oh wait... Yeah it would. People will be throwing a shitfit.
@@williampotter2098nah I’m thinking use a Hispanic or Asian actor. The I have a dream speech in those accents would be great.
Pull the race card when logic and history is against you? Sounds about right.
We should include race card as part of the Karen card.
@JeffreyBird-mt8tl In the Karen starter pack. I would add a high level clearance, fake government ID too.
You gotta love how everything is seen as racist when it goes one way but when it goes the other way nothing is racist and they can just blatantly lie and ignore history. Netflix never should have called this a documentary and maybe they would have gotten away with it.
Never underestimate a woman's ability to make things worse
This actress is now the Rachel Zegler of Netflix.
We're not racist. We're just tired of Hollywood blackwashing every movie and rewriting history. It create more racism in the end.
What dont you like all this diversity?? Isnt this sooo great everybody has representation now even ugly people have representation in films now. If you dont like our movie you are just a wraaaaaaaacist
You mean lying through their teeth.
Thank you! All it'll do is create more resentment, and this time it'll actually be justified! The bureaucracy is so desperate for a quick fix to the problem at large when the sad but simple fact is THERE ISN'T ONE.
But what about "CleoBlacktra?" lol
😅@@handsomeman-pm9vy
The entitlement, arrogance and ignorance is so staggering that it requires a whole country to get up and take legal action. The real Egyptians are taking a stand and protecting their history and culture. I’m glad they’re sticking up for historical facts and their heritage.
Yeah. It's like all those movies that portray ancient Israelites as white people with fair skin, light eyes, etc. Just absurd and blatantly racist. What decent person thinks Jesus, Mary, and Joseph looked like northern Europeans? It's so twisted that people have portraits of a pale-skinned, blonde and blue-eyed Jesus hanging on their walls. Entirely disrespectful.
It's really beyond the pale (pun intended) to think that Cleopatra might have been mixed-race--father of Greek origin and mother with some amount of sub-Saharan ancestry. It's not like Nubians hadn't been traveling to Egypt for centuries and at one point conquered and ruled Egypt during the 25th Dynasty.
@@SunnyDaysAOK *Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek Descent.. not just Greek..*
@@SunnyDaysAOK SMH LOL What's so sad, stupid, and hypocritical about these commenters is they are praising Cleopatra for the same thing Netflix has done. Cleopatra was a Greek, Macedonian that appropriated the Egyptian culture through invasion and those people in the land now calling themselves Egyptians are the genetic by-products of numerous invasions. Netflix could've easily chosen the grandmother of King Tut, Queen Tiye and looking at her image would've shut these "modern Egyptians" up.
Every single person who took part in changing Cleopatra into a black woman: "I'm more important than history, who the fuck is Cleopatra? I am more important than a historical queen and to demonstrate that I'm going to erase the real Cleo from history". It's pure power tripping from people with delusions of grandeur. Including the actress herself. Any sane actor would not want to take a role that insults history itself. Maybe she only did it for the paycheck maybe then I could understand. I would respect her more if she just said "I just did it for the money, I don't actually agree that the real Cleo was black" but she is defending this shit so fuck her. She is not more important than Cleo, and she never will be.
Modern Egyptians are Arabs ,so they have nothing to do with ancient Egyptians,true descendants of ancient Egyptians are Copts who are minority in todays Egypt
Its a slap in the face for a whole country. They literally gaslighted a whole country and still had the audacity to act like they are the victim.
Much like how the person behind this behaves
Two countries, Egypt and Greece.
A literally crocodile tear, disgusting
Well, they tried to gaslight them. Both Egyptians and Greeks know their history very well.
Technically they gaslit 2 considering she was Macedonian Greek.
Kudos to Egypt for actually doing this.
If they win I hope Greece sues next.
No choice really.
With the military coup in 2010 they received a gut punch to tourism, so they have to take control of the narrative.
@@zimriel *Let's not forget about Macedonia & Armenia!*
Should sue for 20billion USD instead
@@zimriellol why would they sue? Egypt is saying she was Greek
You sound but hurt
I’m Egyptian and I hate how this person called all of us racist because we don’t want our history to be misrepresented and we just want people to learn our actual history
Ancient Greece embraced many of the Egyptian innovations, built most of its early culture upon those same foundations.
To go against Egypt is to go against one of the Cradles of the Western Civilisation!
@@ernestoinglez1502 YES!
This is a problem in America. This problem is because we have a political party (Democrat Party) that uses racism and other forms of turning one American against another, it’s just pure hate.
Yep,she was Egyptian only because she was born in Alexandria. She was Macedonian by blood. Greek basically
It honestly tire me that Netflix add/change a pointless detail to a character just for "diversity".
It's like pretending to like diversity without understanding it.
I do wonder how they would think if we tried to cast a black actor as George Washington or Lincoln...
it's cute that she thinks its about her or her skin tone & not realizing its about destroying HISTORY
Destroying history and making it whatever they want it to be rather than what really happened.
Its cute that she is talking to actual Africans....LOL yes the actual black people are racists against the black British person LOLOL
History, you say? So where's all that backlash for white people playing Egyptians. Those Persians had all the smoke for a black girl playing Cleopatra, and the funny thing is, Egypt claim it has nothing to do with Greece and their Cleopatra. Since she isn't really Egyptian. So I would ask why so serious and now want to sue? I smell selective outrage. 🤣🤦🏾
@@reddnucklesFunny you could not see the difference. The old Cleopatra MOVIE was not trying to make a statement with the "white casting", and was a MOVIE. This is a "DOCUMENTARY" featuring a black Cleopatra, with "experts" claiming it is legit. The fact you could not figure this out by yourself is the only outrage I have! 🤦♂
@@ricsim78 I can tell you were very emotional typing that response to my comment. I didn't mention anything about about the old Cleopatra movies. High emotions is the #1 factor for selective outrage and you're clearly guilty of it sir. The History Channel have a large catalogs of Egyptian documentaries dated in the late 80s, all of the 90s and 2000s. What did you see on the majority of those films white americans playing Egyptians. No one said a word. The first "Documentary" showing a black woman playing a white historic figure broke the internet. You say it's not about race? All you hear is "they just need to make it historically accurate" and I would agree. C'mon..the modern day Egyptians never cared for Cleopatra why now? Because if it was another studio behind the film they wouldn't care. So they use the guides of racism to vent their frustration, so they can make a case to sue Netflix. AkA selective outrage, in its natural form. The only color those Egyptians care about is money green and they pulling everyone into their B.S. Why sue? Ms Cleo don't represent you. I would understand if Greece sues Netflix.🤦🏾🥱
She is so arrogant. This is real life history. If you falsely portray history you will get backlash
No matter what they tell you in school, Stalin was black.
@@bladerunner3314good joke homie! But i think that a certain austrian painter was black!
Would be funnier if the silly austrian painter was jewish instead
@@bladerunner3314 She sure was.
She’s a nobody now, just like that terrible actress who played Reeeva in Obi Wan.
She misconstrued the lawsuit as a personal attack or racial discrimination while in fact it is a battle for historical truth.
r/iamthemaincharacter
Exactly. Additionally I find it ironic that the "documentary" that racially discriminate screeches racial discrimination when they get called out on their shit.
as well as misappropriation of a nation's culture and history.
When she insists the entire country of Egypt is racist, it is simply projection, American blacks are extremely racist.
Imagine being this self centered and ignorant, amaaaaazing!
Its not about someone's skin color. Its about spreading lies.
These aren’t lies being spread, it’s just ya’ll can’t take true historical facts that wasn’t taught in school for a reason and that’s main reason why they canceled it!!
The actress, clearly, has the intelligence range of a teaspoon.
How dare you!
The teaspoon clearly has more brain cells than she ever will.
Shoe size iq
If brains were fuel, she couldn't power a flea's motorcycle around a raindrop.
Never trust spoons 🥄.
Always stirring it. . . 🤣
I think you just insulted tea spoons.
To hear the actress call the ENTIRETY OF THE NATIVE COUNTRY racist because they want proper representation is quite possibly the most moronic thing I’ve witnessed.
I already knew she was gonna throw the "wace" card.
@@luigivincenz3843 expected of modern black activists when you present them solid facts and information.
Everyone, or most people, has their ego but hers is literally off the charts.😂😂😂
These actors must stop believing that they are intelligent!! ASAP When and why did they start believing that anyway? Holywod destroyed minds of generations which are incapable of any critical thought.
Make Martin luther king white!
And I remember actual Egyptologists saying; "We don't care what Shelley Haley tells you on Netflix. Cleopatra was ethnic Macedonian Greek."
"and now off the record. greeks and macedonians were probably entire different tribes. there is also alot of stuff for 2 bn $ trials"
Yeah she was some lusty big schnozzed big booty greek overlord
@@peterkorek-mv6rssounds like slavic/Titoist propaganda
@@peterkorek-mv6rslmao. You're a nitwit.
Yakub. That's it.
The problem isn't Netflix. The problem is an entire movement of "black history" trying to make Cleopatra and egypt black. Metatron has spoke of this, no wonder Egypt respond since they're pissed with this movement
Why do they wanna be Egyptian so bad?
@@ReginaMills-c4d they're trying to take all thw egyptian heritage, achievement and all for "the black ancient people" a lot of egyptiologists and people are pissed bc of thia
WEEZ WUZ KANGZ AND KWEENZ. WEEZ DAWNT KEYRE WAWCH YUZ ZAY, WEZ WUZ DA OWRAGENOL EJAPTIANS, FAYRAWS, AMPERAWRS, LARDS, LAYDEEZ, NAYTAV AMERIKANZ, KANGZ, KWEENZ, AND AVARY THANG EN BAYTWEEN. ALSO CUH PLAYA DUZ YUZ KNOWZ ADUM, JAYZUZ, MAWZEZ, AYBRUHAM, AYLIAZ, MAYREE, JAWSEF, MOOHAMED, DAYVED, IZAYUH, JAWNUH, ZAYKAREEUH, SAMYUOL, AND EELYJUH WUZ BLACKZ JUZT LYKE YUZ AND MEEZ? 👨🏿👩🏿🛖BLACK KANGZ AND KWEENZ RYSE AWP!
WEEZ WUZ AWLSO DA AWREGENEL IZRALITES!
She's calling the entire country of Egypt racist 💀 Sweetie, cancel culture doesn't work against countries
Cancel culture never works unless you quit.
Calling another African country racist 😂😂
Americans have been cancelling whole countries for DECADES you muppet.
Especially outside of their gated, woke community
🤣 🤣 Hahahha. True.
Cast Tom Cruise as Martin Luther King. Then when people complain, label them a racist.
I've been waiting for Mat Damon to be cast as Shaka for the next Shaka Zulu reboot. I can't wait!
Great comment, thanks!
Yeah! Sure and ya' betcha!
Let's see uh, Samuel L. Jackson cast as 'Honest' Abe Lincoln perhaps?
Can't wait for THAT one myself!
You people ARE some petty MF's I'd like for you to know!
I wonder if any of you are over the age of 40 AT LEAST considering the level-or lack thereof-in the course of maturity.
You mean Elizabeth Taylor was from Egypt?
@@magellankiller the IRONY in your using of the word "PETTY"...hilarious! WTF you so butt hurt about anyway? haha
NEVER THOUGHT THAT A WHOLE COUNTRY WOULD SUE an American company like that… and they soooo deserve it!! It puts a big smile on my face 😄
First, they ruin snow white which ruins many peoples childhood including mine, now they ruin Egypt actual history and got sued by the whole nations lmao
😂😂😂 well... We do have black skinned people here in south india. Can we do acting??? As this actress talks about skin color... There are other dark skin color people in other countries too. Y don't this actress give up her role my region dark skin person??
I hate the fact that this channel is clickbaiting and ragebaiting at the same time . The lawsuit is still ongoing and so the dude shouldn't use "loses" but "is about to lose" or something else.
Although I agree that the documentary should be as accurate as possible including Cleopatra's race I doubt Egypt is gonna win this case, especially for 2 Billion dollars .
Not make a dent of their finance
They will always do this
@@amirmsebe dude what are you talking about? Cleopatra was caucasian from Greece! She wasn’t fking black !!
Woke ignorance, woke intolerance, woke appropriation of identity ......why complain? Pay and learn the lesson.
Congratulations to the people of Egypt for not accepting such a disrespect to their culture. No entity should be able to rewrite the history of a country
Yeah, but we have another problem 😂; Denzel Washington has been chosen to play the role of the famous Carthaginian general who challenged Rome during the First Punic War, between Carthage (Tunisia/North Africa) and Rome. And guess what? Hannibal was never Black. I hope Tunisia will initiate a lawsuit like Egypt did.
@@Coccinelle74 They should. Movies that want to be historical should at least cast actors that at least resemble the historical figures they are supposed to portray.
But i think it is a fictional movie unlike this one that they declared a DOCUMENTARY@@Coccinelle74
Congratulations to no one as nothing happened... Keep eating these fake news aimed at dropouts😂
@@irokosalei5133 dropouts? ok dude, as you say
Cleopatra is not a fictional character. She was a real historical figure. That is the difference.
They race swapped a lot of pale skins queens to black but they never claimed to be historically accurate.
@@Kionalayes but those were stupid fictional dramas, this was a documentary.
@@sultankebab1587 that's the point I was making
Should Germany sue everyone making a movie about Hitler?
When they do a documentary that claims things that didn't happen, then yeah they can and they should lol @@honsou1978dk
I sincerely hope the actress gets named in the lawsuit as well for her baseless comments about racism. You shouldnt get to claim racism without basis.
Wont happen since it's not about her. Netflix screwed up. She's just an actress. That would have to be a separate lawsuit.
She is becoming the Rachel Zegler of Netflix.
@@MyTripToThePhilippineswhat’s funny is she won’t actually be there. Because while she’s probably as insufferable, sadly Rachel somehow has a bigger career. Was this actress in anything else we even know?
So they should people for their opinion?
Racism is so rare these days! 9 out of 10 times the person claiming racism is delusional
Cleopatra was black.
Source: Grandma 😭
Granny knows.
I don't care what they taught you in school but Martin Luther King was Turkish.
She calls Netflix “entire streaming service” like it’s bigger than Egypt 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
It's smaller than the entire of the Vatican City
TO BE FAIR while I’m not sure about Netflix specifically but a lot of American companies are big/more powerful then SOME countries like Disney is practically a mini country that exists in both the physical and digital worlds Elon musk the richest person on earth could straight up buy certain countries if one man can do that imagine what a whole mega corporation can do
@@stargazer-elite egypt has lots of oil, egypt has the suez canal, egypt has a giant army, who is more powerful? egypt.
Netflix is more like a steaming service. A steaming pile of dog 💩
Raceswapping of famous historical people is one of the most racist thing you can do. For if it didn't matters why shange the race.
Next, Jesus will be portrayed by a Chinese actor in an upcoming Documentary. And Hitler by an Eskimo. Why not?
Imagine they make a documentary on Elvis Presley and cast him as a black man coz music is rock n roll.
@@Dinofrogg I rather they have cast a White Girl to portray Beyonce!
@@austinjt4264But can a white booty match that glorious derriere?! 😂🍑
@@MyTripToThePhilippinesNah, Hitler will be white for sure. Only the good white characters get race swapped...
It’s wild to me that the actor thinks she’s that important that she takes the lawsuit as a personal attack on herself and her skin tone. The amount of delusion and audacity and quite frankly the stupidity it takes to feel like that, is mind blowing to me. The narcissism in society is completely out of control.
This ACTRESS (so an expert at NOTHING let alone history) thinks it's more logical that think she's right, rather than take the word of The Entire Country of Egypt who say she's plain wrong about her historical fact-checking. Nope, she's right and they're racists, all however-many hundreds of millions of people living in Egypt-- (who are African, so yes a Black woman calling an entire African country racist in 2023 lol)
You can't make up this kind of entitlement. Only in Hollywood!
Sounds like she ascribes to that racist revisionist diatribe those nation of islam idiots spout, what a bunch of moore-ons.
She's also blind to how racist it is to change Egyptian history. But then again, she's been told that only white people can be racist. So it is even more puzzling that she'd be accusing Egyptians of being racist. Apparently being black, especially in America, means everyone is racist!
She can't even act
Her skin tone is mixed so she has nothing on that front going on for her. She is of no race, no historical heritage, just a fleeting memory in those who are still alive and care for her.
As an american I'd like to sau congratulations to Egypt.
Im sick of this shit too.
An ancient Roman would look at this and probably ask "Uh, why does Cleopatra look Nubian, and why do the Romans look German?"
Thinking how many german origin soldiers generals and emperors they had, that's somewhat realistic.
@@emib6599 In the late republic? Lol.
@@valmarsiglia I said "somewhat" movies with the Roman Empire were never with a realistic depiction.
For example you always saw the colosseum, even of lot of them were set before it was built, but for a narrative and scene impact purpose it always worked.
Romans stated trying to integrate different cultures right after they expanded outside Italy, because even holding their "first provincia" was difficult because of the various italic cultures.
So if you are not doing an history documentary, showing the romans as multiethnic make sense.
@@emib6599 Multiethnic? Yeah, one looked Swiss, another looked Dutch, another looked English... especially Caesar, who looked like an SS Obersturmbannführer. 😅
@@emib6599 OMG, looking at the IMDB page, all the Romans are played by Englishmen and one Irishman. They went out of their way to hire the most pallid, blue-eyed Brits and Irishmen they could find to underscore the Romans' "whiteness." 😅
Cleopatra was of Greek descent and wasn't the most beautiful woman in the world. She was, however, very educated, knew how to speak the language of the people she ruled over, and very charismatic and charming.
According to research and historical document that would be the smart conclusion to reach. However Netflix disagree ahaha
@@thejessegrant I miss when facts were important
If you think about it, her being so erudite, charming, intelligent and charismatic made her more beautiful then just her looks. Being able to hold an intellectual conversation in those days was the height of attractiveness.
@@Coramelimane Well said
hot enough
I don't remember in my lifetime that there was a "documentary " which was so bad, that they got sued by the country it's history it was about.
Basically the take -away from this is don't make a "documentary" with sources such as old Uncle George or Dave down the pub!
Most assuredly none of us have as long as the character in focus is not Black or even Brown. Personally I at MY age cannot recall but only a very FEW 'documentaries' of any other than white people and some so obscure as to my having to look them up prior to the documentary.
Kind of like watching an episode of "Finding Your Roots" as I can recall that once the hip-hop stars had been covered and the ratings had been leveling off it became a requirement of mine at least to look up the people prior to the episode as it was "so who the HELL are THEY?" time and again each week.
What is really funny now is anybody that says they dont like a movie or film made is a racist, everything is racist. My chicken the other day laid a white egg instead of brown, great now I have a racist chicken, what to do, how do I explain to my chicken she is now a racist.
The most frightening to a thief is when the owner reclaim what was stolen.
@@MrEvansjethro And they stole one of the most iconic pieces of Egyptian, hell WORLD history! It's disgusting.
Well done Egypt - for protecting your history from these political nonsense
Sue them into oblivion
Sue the actress personally for calling Egypt racist because they are preserving and protecting their history and their Greek Queen's important role in Egyptian history
I think the man who filed the lawsuit should file another lawsuit against the actress for defamation. Let her defend her claims that his lawsuit is rooted in racism in a court of law.
Also include that grandma... smoking too much bad weed that she's tripping on history with her distorted illusion
@@KJ-vp5fnI dont think there is a claim against the grandma.
Agree. Her answer is outrageuos and insane, what kind of media person can casually said something like "oh, entire country dont want me to falsify their history? They just threatened and racist!". She *must* bear legal responsibility for this, so as not to create a precedent when a celebrity can be as much an asshole and a boor as she wants and still go unpunished.
100%!
100% forsure
as an asian I humbly accept my role for Nelson Mandela
just basically what Egypt feel
Let's remake _Roots_ and cast LeVar Burton as the plantation owner... Tom Holland can play Kunta Kinte.
Pretty much this.
Why not play MLK and give the “I have a dream” speech
My Grandma swore on a Bible that Mandela was a White Dutch Woman !! 😂
Well fine. I’m available for a documentary about Sun Tzu.
Following this logic, a "Documentary" casting a Chinese actor as Martin Luther King is fair game.
Then when they screaming racist or ask for proof,say my grandpa tell me this so it's must be true 😂
But what about "CleoBlacktra?"
Why not? They hauled that ugly statue of MLK all the way from China to set it up in our capital. Just another outsourcing job...
@@handsomeman-pm9vyHistory channel did a 45 minute show on how Cleopatra may have been black that was enough to convince everyone to make this schlock.
@@MarianneMalyj History channel needs to stick to what they do best, alien documentaries
I turned off a Netflix show as soon as a VERY black King Henry VIII came out. Wouldn't have even known it was KH but someone had to address him with his name right when he came in the room. I was like wth? 😳
Then there was the British series about Anne Boleyn, who was portrayed as a black woman, or the entire play Hamilton where the founding fathers are men "of colour." This all might seem harmless enough, but there will be entire generations of people who believe these things and that will be the demise of history and culture as we know it.
Let’s not forget about Disney ruining little mermaid
Huh, my grandma told me "I don't care what they told you in school, Cleopatra was Irish."
Actually, she was Greek.
Nah she was Mongolian
@@Brokencode_12 Actually she was Hannibal Barca using dark magic he found from the Chinese to change race, age and gender in a plan to sabotage the Roman Empire
@@evanhughes3027 Pretty sure she was Irish, bro. With a little bit of whatever else I have in my DNA. Same as Jesus.
My grandma told me "I don't carr what they told you in school, Cleopatra was a redneck"
So let me get this straight: they made a documentary radically (and against basic historical fact) claiming that Cleopatra was black because Egypt is an African country. _But,_ when Egypt itself calls out this claim, they’re racist towards black people? 😂
Edit: I know not all Africans are black. That’s kind of the point I was making.
Yep. And, fun fact. Cleopatra herself wasn't even Egyptian, she was mainly Greek
This is exactly correct.
There seems to be this mentality that if you oppose anything involving a black person that regardless of your nationality you are indeed racist. The stubbornness of this train of thought is appalling and dangerous.
@HugeHaddock greek is usually light skinned not dark and black
@@poisondragonslayer I know, that's the point
"100 percent fundamentally rooted in racism" . I wonder what the actress would say if they made a "documentary" about Rosa Parks and cast Meryl Streep. Would she object? I wonder what she would "fundamentally" root her opinion in?
Cast Ryan Gosling as Obama in an Obama documentary
She’s not Black American so she may not care. However I would being that IM Black.
@@azizabahati7037 She may not be American but she'd DEFINITELY throw a hissy fit. Seems the type to me. And, of course, no such action should ever be taken. But she'd likely want death to the creators if they did it for a joke.
Ooh, can't wait for Chris Hemsworth as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Guess what people? We can now use AI generated imagery! Even down to the colour of the skin!!!!
When you play the victim for so long, you fail to recognize you've become the villain.
That older lady saying that her grandmother believed cleopatra was black and not a product of greek incest is crazy af. Schools can say whatever they want but you gotta read the actual sources from antiquity to learn who she was, it’s not hard to find out.
Who’s her grandma anyways? I didn’t see anything that her grandma is some expert in Egyptian history. So what does her very subjective opinion have to do in a „documentary“?
I read a biography of Cleopatra not too long ago. She was not a notable beauty, but was well-educated, charming, seductive, and intelligent. She came from a Macedonian family, descended from one of Alexander the Great's generals, which had been very inbred for several generations. The family (Ptolemies) was notable for killing close relatives in order to gain the throne. Cleopatra herself was forced to marry her younger brother, whom she later went to war with, and he ended up slain in battle. She seduced and had children with the Roman generals Julius Caesar and Mark Antony in order to gain power and to survive her siblings' plots. She probably fell in love with Marc Antony and they married. They both committed suicide when they lost the war against the first Roman emperor, Augustus, whose sister was Mark Antony's former wife, Octavia. Octavia later raised Marc Antony's children by Cleopatra.
That lady's grandma probably also told her to take Robitussin(™️) for a toothache. Being a black grandma doesn't give her any authority over anything, including history.
Until DNA testing became affordable many American Blacks believed they had Native American in them. Same issue, their parents and grandparents had told them so. I remember RUclips being flooded by videos of these people getting their Ancestry results to find out they were 0% Native American and more often than not, part White. Not everything you’re family says is true. In reality their ancestors didn’t want to admit that their skin was lighter because they had White in them. Or their features were different than most Africans for the same reason. Native Americans we’re an acceptable scape goat since they obviously weren’t plantation and slaves owners. Ancestors of Black slaves don’t have any family records though (none going back to their African roots and most not even any of their family in America before the civil war), so most of the time they really didn’t know their origins. This Cleopatra thing is different though. It is very well documented and proven historical fact that she was Greek. Nobody questions that Mark Antony was Roman! What baffles me most though, is why not really claim their own heritage? There were and are amazing sub Saharan African cultures. The Kushites built more pyramids than the Egyptians. They were a powerful nation that even took over Egypt for a short period of time. Their surviving artwork and statues show them looking Black. Darker skin, different facial features, etc… Why not do a real documentary on them? Be proud of your own cultures and stop trying to change PROVEN history.
It struck me as truly insane
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
*It's basically like what Julius Caesar tried to do to Egypt!*
@@scarlett19b Facts
@uzaautumus I wish that was true.
@@dennisweidner288👉🏽 *Excuse me but what!?* 👈🏽
@@scarlett19b I wish that evil could not create anything new, the question posed by uzaautumus to begin this thread.
As a non-Egyptian man, I find this be a great win for Egypt.
Well it hasn't even happened, this guys title is clickbait. The lawsuit has barely even started yet, no one has won any money. There's no way Egypt will actually get $2B from this lawsuit, they're dreaming if they think that will happen.
But what about CleoBlactra? LMFAO
@@ChrisM-bn5vrchris nobody asked
@@drpeppersnumber1fan I don't need someone to ask me something to state that the lawsuit hasn't happened. Nobody asked for your opinion either.
@@ChrisM-bn5vr lmao i didnt say anything abt opinions. i never even said my opinion but ok. keep being weird chris
I remember when I was a child, my grandmother used to tell me;
“I don’t care what anyone tells you, Malcolm X (ra) was Ukrainian”
I thought that he was from Italy.
@@handsomeman-pm9vynah he's Chinese
😆🤣😂
Isn't this a type of cultural appropriation? Claiming an entire culture and group as your own and then shamelessly flaunting it in a movie is pretty wild.
That’s Murica for you.
Take someone else’s culture and history and portray it as something completely different (think of the Mel Gibson’s film Braveheart, which was so historically inaccurate it was untrue and caused problems here in the UK).
Why didn’t Netflix make a show about the Kushite Kings and Queens (ancient Egyptian 25th dynasty) instead of hijacking a Ptolomy Queen (Ptolomy was a General of Alexander the Great’s)?
Flippin’ ‘eck, my classmates and I were taught about the Kushites over 50 years ago in school.
When Alexander died, without an heir, his Generals carved up his empire between themselves:
¥ Ptolemy - Egypt
¥ Seleucus - Mesopotamia, and all of the East
¥ Antigonus - much of Asia Minor
¥ Lysimachus - Thrace, and
¥ Antipater - mainland Greece
Kushite Kings who ruled Nubia and Ancient Egypt:
¥ Piye - 747-716 BCE
¥ Shabaqa (716-702 BCE)
¥ Shebitqu (702-690 BCE)
¥ Taharaqa (690-664 BCE), and
¥ Tanutamani (664 BCE)
Amazing that I found this online in just a few minutes.
This programme should have been listed as a “mocumentary” and definitely NOT a documentary.
Are the researchers at Netflix so bad at their jobs that they can’t find any real information with all the resources they have at hand? Heads need to roll.
@@enkisdaughter4795 I think it's an issue of "building on an established brand". Companies see it this way:
Which will make more money? Telling the true story of an Egyptian Monarch from one of the Nubian dynasties that no one has heard of? Or taking a leader that has name recognition, and insisting that they're black to capture a portion of that audience?
If they cared about presenting truth and elevating real black stories, they could. They just don't think that would be profitable.
Its the DEFINITION of Cultural Appropriation. And its the absolute worst kind of it. Imagine if we made a "Documentary" about Shaka (the Zulu chieftan, also known as "The Black Napoleon") and made the entire cast white with the director saying "I dont give a shit what schools say, Shaka was White!" People would lose their freaking minds. That there are those who don't see this as horribly racist and disgusting is incredible to me.
Its okay when leftist do it lol
@enkisdaughter4795 the actress who played cleopatra and is screaming racism is actually quite British herself so I don't think it's an American issue alone
This needs to happen every time. Don't let them race swap historical figures in any documentaries!
Can't wait to race swap Nelson Mandela 💀
It started with their version of Anne Boleyn being black. I ended Netflix then.
@@theimp5901no it didn't. The Anne Boelyn drama was produced and broadcast by Channel 5 in the UK. 😂😂😂😂
The netflix docudrama Blood, Sex and Royalty had Amy James-Kelly (who is white) playing Anne Boyelyn.
But but it is a documentary, Cleopatra lived in Egypt. So, we have one known fact, so that makes it a documentary, right? Since we have one right fact all our other ridiculous claims have to be true as well?
How dare you say our facts are wrong, you must be raciest.
Sarcastic mode off, or is it how these people really think?
Another 50 years and schools will be claiming the founding fathers of the USA were from Africa.
"My Acting is Terrible, My Knowledge of History is Wrong, I'm Being sued for spreading Misinformation... they must hate me be because of the color of my skin..."
I Love how it's always about Skin Color but never about The Actual Situation.
These Afrocentrics are only concerned about skin color.
What else has she got but a popular LIE.
so TRUE haha
And the sour cherry on top of the whole rotten mess is that it is only the color of her skin that got her the job.
Yeah, except a lot of the times it is about skin color. This situation is an exception, not a rule.
Imagine making a documentary on MLK and casting a white actor to play him
I love how they preach to us about not caring about skin color but go out of their way to change the skin color of established characters.
Not even established characters, SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY EXISTED. it's wild.
@@lockheedmartinf-22raptor73 you are correct that was my bad
The woke never proposed that we should not care about skin color. They care about skin color very much. Telling a wokie that you're "color blind" is actually offensive to them. They want you to FOCUS on race and consider skin color the most important characteristic a person has.
The woke think of people in terms of groups, not as individuals - which is the crux of bigotry. They do not believe in equally, either. They believe that some groups should be elevated while other groups are denigrated and suppressed... depending on skin color (and victim status).
But that's not racism! 😆
Next they will make Stalin Black. Lol.😅
@@angelika77st nah they'll probably make Winston Churchill asian someday
She has some nerve accusing Egypt of racism when she literally appropriated Egypt's culture and history.
Solid point.
You know nothing about Egyptian culture....The People you see in Egypt at the moment are NOT the indigenous people of Egypt and are mostly descendants of either, Roman, Greek, Assyrian ,Persian or Ottoman invaders etc...Google the ''THE FORGOTTEN PYRAMIDS OF SUDAN''....They are NOT forgotten by the way, Someone just doesn't want to mention the fact that there are more Pyramids in Sudan because that would ERASE A LOT OF WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT AS HISTORY IN SCHOOLS! People living in Egypt at the moment are as Indigenous as Europeans in the Americas! I am a history graduate from Africa and the History we are taught and know if we tell it Hollywood and the West might not like it. Egyptians and mostly North Africans don't call themselves Africans for a reason and they NEVER try to tell us about these history because they know we know...
It's because racism "It's a very modern ideology" ...
🤡🤡
America whitewashes Egyptian history since the beginning of the entertainment industry so when someone counters it I suspect Americans are actually the ones that are mad. It's most likely not Egypt doing this but Americans who don't like someone countering their propaganda. No doubt same people who financed this video.
George Washington was also black, so was Jesus, and Christopher Columbus, Einstein, Alexander the Great, Hitler, Isaac Newton, and Moses. My grandmother told me.
Lmao, although tbf Jesus was not white. Not black, but he was born in the middle east after all
Is Bibi black?
@@WWExMarigold lamentations 4:7
So was Genghis Khan and Joseph Stalin. My crazy neighbor told me.
I believe Polar Bear are black also. My grandmother told me.
When I lived in Egypt this was a thing off and on. Really, the Egyptians are very proud of their heritage, and they just seemed tired having to defend Cleopatra (who is very much loved) all this time against misrepresentation. Egyptians aren't uneducated people.
Something else of note. Not only is Cleopatra shown to be black, but almost every Egyptian shown is portrayed as sub-Saharan African black. Now historically there would have been some black folks in Egypt, but not almost every person as shown on screen. So not only Cleopatra herself is shown in a non historically accurate light, but most of the other people are as well.
Yes, north Africa was settled be Greeks and people from Levant for many years. It most likely was super diverse.
Correct, Egypt has more in common with Mediterranean Europe and the middle east than it ever did with sub-Saharan Africa. It's why Egypt and the sub-Saharan look so different then and now. It's two different places with very different influences.
Nubians were not allowed into Egypt by well known decrees, and Bantu( west congoid sub saharans, the ones desperately trying to lie about everything, because... feelings...) didnt know Egypt existed.... SMH
Kemet
@@logikgirl12 That's Black Land... not Land of The Black.
Stop being delusional.
The word "Kemet" referring to soils that is black in color. Not the people.
Next Netflix documentary series: "ADOLF HITLER"
Featuring - Will Smith as Adolf Hitler
Replace Will Smith with Kanye West and it would actually be funny.
If will smith is Hitler who is Chris rock playing. 😂😂😂
@@CRIMS0NDRAG0N017Hideki Tojo
@@CRIMS0NDRAG0N017 Goebbels
@@CRIMS0NDRAG0N017 Stalin
So... Ignoring all the evidence that an entire country and an entire people have, we're supposed to believe the old lady's grandmother? 😂
We just need to ignore the faces on the sarcophaguses , statues, wallpaintings.
Also ignore the facial reconstructions that happened using the skulls of mummies.
Those people don't look like black people.
Also most black people in the US have western african roots. But Egypt is not in West Africa.
It would be like an Italian claiming Norways history.
Yes
Well yes, she said it on the interweb so it mùst be true😅
But what about CleoBlactra? LMFAO
Netflix and the people who made the documentary including actress, narrators and "historians" in the series should have to pay.
It's funny that Egyptians have been saying that she was Greek for close to 3000 years
No they haven’t
@@divisionagentbailey6727 grandma's off her pills again
@@divisionagentbailey6727Dude what? It's basic knowledge
@@divisionagentbailey6727 Cleopatra's father was Ptolemy XII Auletes, who was a Macedonian (greek territory) general. Cleopatra was born in Alexandria to a Macedonian man and woman. She was born in Egypt, but she is Greek.
She lived less then 2100 years ago, they couldt be speaking it for "close to 3000 years ago"
They really had someone's grandma say "trust me bro"
She must know better than Egypt and Macedonia. Cleopatra's family didn't even speak their language.
When someone’s grandma said “trust me bro”, you know things are messed up 😂
@johnprice4847 The latter.
@johnprice4847 yes and a the empire that a man now known as Great Al, conquered a lot of the world, including Egypt (who welcomed him wilingingly and who much preferred him to the previous Persian rule) which promptly went to Ptolemy son of his general Lagos, (uh from my vague memory) and a few generations later of ptolmic pharoahs you get wabam, lady cleo the woman in question
Lol
To that woman's grandmother who claims Cleopatra is black, I want to know what her grandmother would feel like if Jennifer Lawrence were to portray Rosa Parks in a Rosa Parks documentary.
I remember my grandma told me, I don’t care what they tell you in school, Rosa Parks was white
@@stukz7094 And what was worse, she was a ginger.
@@PrinsPrygeland a Karen
@@PrinsPrygel This comment made me die laughing!
Martin Luther King was a white guy, a swede blond guy that liberated blacks and whites alike, enslaved by blacks.
Roots by kinta kunte is about a poor white blonde Russian family enslaved by big bad blacks, they fight for them freedom.
Nelson Mandela was a polish blonde guy that ended South African aparthide.
One day I'll see documentaries like that :D
Greece should sue as well. Cleopatra was a Greek queen ruling Egypt.
Cleopatra was Greek according to history. When Alexander the Great's generals divided up the areas Alexander had conquered, Ptolemy got the land of Egypt and surrounding areas. Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek ethnicity and, therefore, not black skinned. But, I forgot, certain people don't read history...🙄
Even if she were 100% ethnically Egyptian, she'd be far from black lol
And we have another problem 😂; Denzel Washington has been chosen to play the role of the famous Carthaginian general who challenged Rome during the First Punic War, between Carthage (Tunisia/North Africa) and Rome. And guess what? Hannibal was never Black. I hope Tunisia will initiate a lawsuit like Egypt did.
@@Coccinelle74 There's been outrage in Tunisia over it
Also, most Egyptians and other North Africans are not black. North Africans are more closely related to West Asians than they are to black Africans in sub Saharan Africa.
She was a Ptolemy, spoke Greek.
Netflix: We're making Cleopatra black.
Egypt: *We know our own history*
And doing it for a documentary, not a fictional story
@@jonatanpersson82egypt doesnt own Cleopatra this is so dumb
@@yesthejets3368 it's like saying Americans don't own Abraham Lincoln so we can depict him as a ray sist slave owner
No your just stupid lol@@yesthejets3368
@@yesthejets3368 Egypt doesnt own their own history?
I hope Egypt wins, this revisionist history has got to stop (looking at you as well diverse Anne Boleyn)!
The ironic thing about this statement is that the Anne Boleyn series is probably one of the most historically accurate depictions of that whole scenario, and at no point do they claim the race of the actress portraying her is meant to reflect the race of the actual Boleyn. It’s a historical drama series, and a drama is much different than a documentary. These are actors who are acting out a role.
With Cleopatra however, they’ve gone explicitly out of their way to say “Cleopatra is definitively black and that is final,” in abject defiance of the actual truth. This is a purported documentary that claims to be the voice of the truth, yet is insistent on a blatant inaccuracy as the truth.
@@spentlizard353 And the actress who plays is simply Brava!
While I agree that the Cleopatra documentary was historically inaccurate crap, the lawsuit is problematic. If successful, it would set a legal precedent for future lawsuits against the entertainment industry, based only on historical inaccuracy. This is not the solution to the problem.
@@spentlizard353 "...at no point do they claim the race of the actress portraying her is meant to reflect the race of the actual Boleyn." Okay, I'll call bullshit on that. The race of the actor is itself a statement when it comes to playing the an actual person from history, any claim otherwise is a bald face lie and gaslighting. There is no shortage of white English actresses who they could have cast and there is no reason not to have other than the show producers racism. Go ahead and lie to us that you'd be okay with casting John Travolta to play Nelson Mandela in a documentary about how he was imprisoned for being a black agitator during South Africa's apartheid.
@@spentlizard353 it isnt only Anne Boleyn they have done it too tho
Joan D'Arc was race swapped. so was McBeth (Mac Bethaid mac Finláech) was race swapped. Jarl Haakon was race and gender swapped
somehow thats fine to do but i bet my left arm that if a white actor would play Martin Luther King in a movie the world would be too small
go sell your double standarts elsewere dude for real
Apocalypto is exactly how you make an ACCURATE period film, while respecting it's indingenous culture and history.
*I am Coptic Egyptian Descent and what Netflix did was totally Unacceptable!*
I'm a white American and what netflix did was totally unacceptable
I’m a green turtle and what Netflix did was totally unacceptable
Americans.
With only one word you can explain the lack of knowledge, respect, context, those people have; the lack and misinterpretation of what culture is, the narrow view of the 'time' (I mean, my house is older than US itself) the need to always have someone or something to go back at (and if they don't have it, they fabricate it)
The older I get, the more I'm convinced they should not touch things that aren't 'theirs' without supervision because they'll dumbify and ruin 'em.
Obviously, greeks and italians are ferociously with egyptians in this!
We show them how our wars, dominations, alliances, our ancestors cutting each other's throats or learn from one another, or love one another, through millennia all that tie us as sibilings!!
@@sensufr219 I’m totally unacceptable and what Netflix did was also totally unacceptable.
I'm a little bitch and what netflix did was pretty good !!
Did she really just say that racism is a “very modern ideology?” Where did she get her education, from Netflix?
Yeah 🤣🤣🤣 racism is as old as Shaytan - meaning it existed before manking lol cuz he had that in him before it manifested itself
Her imaginary racism is modern
I think she's kind of right on this one. I think division on classes, religion and tribes were more prominent during ancient history, not skin tone. Racism is relatively new. It started with Darwin and his theory of evolution categorizing human beings into ''evolve'' and ''not evolve'' groups and trying to use science and genetics to prove their point.
@@rosewielgo3594 well you clearly haven't read this thread. Racism existed BEFORE mankind. This is part of our religion as stated above so to you your belif and to us, ours.
@@GabrielaCiacoi Can't really say if this is sarcasm or if you're serious. What is this new religion exactly?
I think the phrase that took the biscuit for me was “…suing a “whole” streaming service” as if that is a larger entity than a “whole” country! Who were they going to sue? The actors? The directors? No, of course you are going to sue the whole streaming service.
I'm shocked how literally hundreds of people at NetFlix could have stopped this lying documentary... but the executives, director, producers, many actors, many lawyers, many senior staff all agreed to create a lying documentary. It's the equivalent of Apple releasing an apple watch which removes two of the numbers from the clock.... like seriously how stupid are these people at NetFlix?
If this actress brain was dynamite she would not have enough to blow her nose.
My man, we're living in a cyberpunk dystopia where companies are often larger and more powerful that countries. If Netflix was a country and its market cap (189.24 billion USD) was GDP, it would be number 70 out of 200+ countries. Egypt is number 21 ($1.264 trillion USD GDP). So Egypt is like 7 times larger, but still in the same ballpark.
How about a fraction of the streaming service? Nope, the 'whole' streaming service.
Hopefully Netflix learned their lesson. Hiring Jada Smith to make an abysmal financial failure but then having to turn around a pay legal fees to defend yourself in court.
Amen! I can't believe this isn't the top comment
In George Orwell's book 1984 "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. History has stopped."
The BBC just made a propaganda piece about black people (not some ancient tribe just crawling out wherever that aren't much of anything yet, actual black people in the modern sense) being native Europeans all along. Like how black people are the "real natives" in the US. People are insane. I've come across groups on here claiming to be the true Asians too. This black nationalist sht is getting ridiculous and more pathetic. It's embarrassing.
He was right.
That book left me depressed and terrified, because the prophecies are becoming true.
George Orwell in the heaven watching everything happening in the world:
"TOLD. YOU. SO"
Wasn’t that dude a communist? And didn’t he write animal farm
-I remember my grandmother saying to me Cleopatra was black.
-Oh really, how old was your grandmother, two thousand years?
This lol
😂😂
These people are just making everyone resent black people……… I thought they wanted to get rid of racism………but the way they are going about it is only promoting racism…………these people are utterly and horrifically just inept and have no self awareness and sense of perspective, just me me me victimized mentality. Nobody respects crybabies, every race was enslaved at one point in history, but if you ask a black person they would try to discredit these facts………… sigh…..
She has dementia
😂
Besides the race thing they also tried to paint Cleopatra as a warrior queen which she definitely wasn't. She was extremely politically savvy and that made her more dangerous because she could maneuver around her opponents without facing them in combat. She was also brilliant in poisons so she knew pretty complex chemistry for the time as a woman which should be told.
I heard that she had "relations" with many powerful men and used them. Not really politically savvy , imo.
@@iinred1954I’d consider that politically savvy. She used her resources to get what she wanted, even if it was her own body
Trust netflix to leave all this out and call it a documentary
@@iinred1954 what kind of fetish sex did she give them? 😂😂😂
@@iinred1954 *It's called; distracting the enemy/manipulating the opposite sex/the power of illusion!*
The actress failed to realize that it’s not about her or her skin tone.
It’s about being disrespectful to their history.
It’s almost the same as if somebody reversed the roles in a slavery movie or I guess reversed the skin tones.
It would be equally as disrespectful and historically inaccurate.
actors often aren't very smart
Blacks are fed victimhood stories their entire life. They all think they’re the main character in a movie about oppression and nobody else ever experiences anything remotely close to oppression
They should also consider suing the Actress for stating that Egypt is only doing this because they are RACIST
Falsely claiming they act purely out of racism is pretty up there in terms of 'actual malice', malicious intent, which is the central burden of evidence in most defamation laws.
'Course, Egypt being defamed, their country would actually have jurisdiction, so they wouldn't even need to wage a case in the US with its weird laws.
And just where is she truly wrong in what she had stated?
If up to You People NOBODY CAN BE RACIST-that is as long as You white People aren't in the crosshairs.
Tht actress is ignorant
@nvelsen1975
Hokey Smoke!
Talk about dredging up anything and everything to pose the possibility of even a shadow of the very THOUGHT of NOT being the center of characterization(s) that is tantamount to it being considered as the very definition of libel and/or slander.
Do you now see how YOU PEOPLE sound in your attempts at somehow leveling the playfield so that YOU People may retain the notion as the priority in Race relations in this matter?
Unbelievable......
The level of self importance within this actress is outstanding, a new level of arrogance just emerged, what a disgusting human being she is.
Next time they should make a documentary of Abraham Lincoln played by a black actor.
"I don't care what they tell you in American history, Abraham Lincoln was black."
To fully embrace the cringe and theme they try to represend.
Native American.
Pocahontas was black, source? Trust me bro.
Or make martin luther king white
"I don't care what they tell you in American history, Martin Luther King was white"
Don't give them idea dammit
Netflix: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN ✍️✍️✍️
Its kindof disturbing how a large percentage of Americans think all of africa is black. They know so little about geography and yet feel they can lecture others about it
Also "racism is a very modern ideology" WHAT?!?!
Modern racism was created by Trotsky to shame the Finns for having the audacity to not want to go through what the Ukrainians did.
I'm one of those who knows very little about geography. I've known this for years. I recently decided to look at a world map and see where a lot of things are. I still feel kind of ignorant, because I would have to really study it to really have it in memory.
But it's not a bad idea to pull out a map from time to time and see where a lot of places are that we all talk about so much, and where they are in relation to one another.
I agree with you 💯, sadly this is the result of the American school system, most schools don’t teach World Geography or History. If you don’t have some sort of factual knowledge of the past, you’ll be easily fool in the present.
@@BWings-ub4ej yeah because sadly instead of studying world history or anything it's always about MERICA!!
I learned nearly nothing about WW2 pre pearl harbor, the battles we were ever taught were the American ones, and it was pushed the idea that america singlehandedly saved ww2
Racism has been around since beginning of civilization
The problem with the Netflix so called documentary about Cleopatra is that it's not based on historical facts but more on woke ideological beliefs. The documentary itself is what's racist and not the criticism of it. The criticism is about the racism in the documentary.
10 seconds it took her to call an entire country RACIST.
Everything slightly negative about those people (not all blacks but like that actress) is racist according to them.
I bet the Egypt couldn't care less about her remarks.
Because it's the only argument she could present. It's like having a business card in your pocket that says YOU ARE A RACIST instead of actual information.
Race-obsessed narcissists trying not to call others racist for no reason for 5 seconds (impossible challenge)
Anytime I hear someone say "that's racist" I get the hardest case of the eye rolls.
Booombastic side eye
How long before people start responding to such arrogance with lead rebuttals _en masse?_ Because I think we're past due.
#MeToo
Its a disgrace that, unlike Egypt🇪🇬, the government of Greece🇬🇷 does absolutely nothing against that insulting sh*t
You forget that although Mediterranean, Greeks are considered white so therefore have no say in anything!
I dunno. Maybe at that time it wasn't a big deal. They may have had much bigger problems, like the Romans!!! To use today's feelings about something that occurred 2000+ years ago is just as inappropriate as Netflix changing history.
@TuckaBuck89
I think he was talking about Cleopatra being of Greek descent.
She came from the bloodline of one of Alexander the Great generals.
@@TuckaBuck89 the greeks weren't indifferent to those topics.
@@koppsrBig whoosh on their part 😂
The stupid part is that Netflix could have kept the cast the same, and no one would have said a thing. But they just had to turn the DEI up to 11, blackwash Cleopatra and anyone that called out their lies they label them a racist.
Netflix went looking for a fight and now their crying that someone punched them in the face.
This court case needs to be televised, I just want to see the defendants talk about their grandma as a point of reference. 🤣
I think Amber Heard had better witnesses for her defense than this Netflix case will have.
Netflix presents: Egypt vs Netflix
haha
Solid strategy. Kind of like "Mama said" in The Waterboy. 🤣😂🤣
"But Meemaw said we wuz kangs!"
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinesemeemaw left out the fact that kangz owned slaves. Those kingdoms didn't just pop out of the ground by them raising their fist in the air and saying "Pride powers activate"
Julio cesar- african actor
Hannibal- chinese actor
Aquiles- swedish actor
Alexander- indian actor
Martin l king- irish actor
Omg so racist except Julio Ceasar and Alexander the great 🤣🤣🤣
Tf you mean expect Alexander and Julio@@Dinosaur315
Hannibal is Phoenician. Hannibal had Light brown hair, fair Mediterranean skintone, and light brown eyes. Hannibal was literally called "Bane Tsur" aka "The Son of Tyre," and therefore if anyone is actually eligible for hannibal, it would be a lebanese actor, since lebanese have the highest percentage of Phoenician Dna in the world (93%) and still practice phoenician customs (like dabke and labbadeh hat)
@sahiltamuli1753 I think it's because the original poster made them african/black and Indian - and apparently it's not racist to misrepresent a historical figure if the actor is black.
That's my interpretation anyhow.
Can you not spell the names right?
"She's Greek not native Egyptian"
Correct but even native Egyptians are not black.
and people travel, egyptians can be born in libya, a turk can be born in Greece, A greek can be born in egypt etc
Mithradates was cleopatra's father. The policy bloodline ran its course by cleopatra n her siblings time. Native Egyptians ARE black... u can look at them and see it. In this day and age they are probably mixed with lots of different bloods going back centuries but black blood goes back 1000's of years. Some British scientists found what they believed to be Arsinoe ( cleop sister) remains and sed that she was 1/2 black. They did a docu about it on the history Channel going back some yrs.
@@Lucinda-zr9su
Cleopatra of Pontus is different from Cleopatra
Queen of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt
@@Lucinda-zr9su north africa,, egypt ,morocco is different from tanzania, nigeria, congo , egypt is so close to israel and is very different
both countries invaded each other and got invaded multiple times
@@Lucinda-zr9su Eratosthenes
Ancient Greek mathematician and geographer, born in libya
Archimedes
Greek mathematician born in italy
people travel
Everyone who was saying Cleopatra was black was just looking at Egypt on a map and going "omg hey, it's in AFRICA, who would have thought? Omg that means Cleopatra was black omg"
I like how that one lady’s likely uneducated grandmother is seen as being a historian well versed in ancient Egypt
Literally celebrating being uneducated... This show is a monument to modern black American 'culture'
But what about CleoBlactra? LMFAO
The most ironic thing about this is that the grandma, or really any other descendant of the African slaves, has no connection to Egypt. The slaves came from Sub-Saharan Africa, nowhere near Egypt.
@@HubiKoshi Africa = black people yes they are that stupid. i guess im german now.
@HubiKushi Even worse, Western Sub-Saharan Africa. But I think the problem is these people equivocate 'African' with black and are ignorant of the fact that numerous different races and ethnicities live in different parts of the continent. It's really a product of the ignorance of many Americans which has become a mythology even for some actually from Africa.
I just love how if anyone has a problem with the 'Documentary", or the actors, then you must be 'Scared', 'Racist" or 'threatened' by whatever they have changed to fit their own idea.
Yes we're absolutely scared of the dumbification of history!!!!
Oh they must be talking about me...
I'm a scared racist misogynistic bigoted evil money loving nazi gangster comrade.
*Being called "a Racist" for standing behind the truth & telling/sharing Historical Facts has become a badge of honor at this point!*
@@Anna-fw7lm *I wouldn't necessarily say "Scared" I'd say we're worried/cautious!*
@@scarlett19b using her own words/reasoning and turn it back to her. It's a come back, rather than a serious statement :)
It's funny because Elizabeth Taylor's casting in the Hollywood classic as Cleopatra was mocked at the time by some critics. Turns out her look is a bit more historically accurate than people once thought.
she was just too beautiful. but at that time, cleopatra was believed to be a very beautiful woman. so, i agree. her portray as the queen is more make sense.
And that was just a movie this disaster was supposed to be a documentary
Caesar and Anthony could have and did have any woman they wanted. And BOTH fell for the same woman. Anthony even gave back his wife (Augustus's sister) and caused even more trouble for himself to appease Cleopatra.
She must have been a goddess.
@@brianlara8651She wasn't. We know how she looks because there are portraits and statues of her done by people who saw her. What she was is very charming and extremely smart. She was fascinating to them and even her critics(of which there were many at the time) would agree that she was unusually sharp.
Because that lady’s grandmother was the one who instigated the criticisms
Black washing isn't going to make you more righteous
I hope Netflix loses this lawsuit and is forced to pay the entire $2 billion.
That would partially be my money. I don´t look forward to a Netflix without money, cause that surely will not improve the quality of entertainment I get
@olaflange5254
Of course it will improve the quality!
They will need to stop pandering to woke garbage and make movies based on reality.
Go woke, go broke. Another service will replace them. No loss.
@@olaflange5254 Are you playing devils advocate right now?! This whole shitshoe wouldn't be IF they had used your money to make a good documentary.
@@olaflange5254they haven’t produced anything good, basically ever. Sooooooo not much will change whether they have your money or not
Cleopatra has a worse audience score on Rotten Tomatoes than Birdemic: Shock and Terror. Let that sink in...
Lol. Birdemic can at least be funny if you watch it with friends.
the lawsuit is not against her skin being black, it is against the historical inaccuracy of a whole country, of a whole civilisation. Not every single thing is about race
Literally erased her entire identity
@@oldol12 🤣🤣 100%
@@nothintoreadhere6168 this is called black washing. don’t worry you can laugh at this joke, I am a black myself
@@oldol12Cleopatra was Greek, European.
@@halfdome4158 i know. But i was talking from the standpoint of the actress. She would accuse even ancient people of just making smth up.
00:58 She shouldn't talk like that ! ... "Snow White", "Little Mermaid", now, "Cleopatra" ! ... 😠 Egypt is 100% RIGHT ! ... Sue Netflix ! ... 😡
The actress might be the worst of all. To be faced with undeniable evidence and the anger of an entire country and have it only strengthen your belief is something so wildly irrational it's unbelievable.
I'm tempted to say that this is a result of the culture of empowerment through victimization that has been adopted in recent years, however in a way it might be even simpler than that.
These are Hollywood actors and actresses, would-be celebrities, who by virtue of their occupation and temperament are among the most egocentric and selfish human beings alive.
Just a celebrity being a celebrity.
Not really, you should know the radical far Left cannot be bothered with historical accuracy or anything that impedes their view of the world. They have been re-writing our textbooks for decades, successfully influencing generation after generation with their version of events. Young minds are the most vulnerable, easily influenced and molded during their formative years. The far Left has control of the teacher's unions and the public schools. That should be enough to cause outrage and alarm but people are too conditioned to question those in authority.
All Netflix had to do was say inspired by true story instead of saying it’s a documentary and based on true stories. With it being inspired you then allowed to put your own narrative into it with whatever political bs agenda you want.
Woke activist want to change people's perception of history. Admitting upfront that they changed the facts would be counter productive to their goal.
Egypt would still hate them 😂
@@mikepatrona472true, and it would still be racist to make Cleopatra black; but Netflix would at least have an argument if they didn't call it a documentary.
@@mikepatrona472 oh yeah I’m not saying that it would it do better or people would be more open to seeing it. Just that Netflix would have a argument not claiming it as the truth.
@@annihilator2188 What do you even mean by black? They made Cleopatra mixed-race, which isn't that unlikely given the real history of people migrating from Nubia into Egypt. The Nubians did conquer and rule Egypt at one point.
We know that Cleopatra's father was a Ptolemy but we don't know anything about her mother. Racial purity wasn't a thing because the concept of race as it is understood today did not exist then. Realistically, kings had concubines of different backgrounds.
It's far worse when we see Jesus portrayed as a blonde, blue-eyed Scandinavian or the rest of the ancient Israelites portrayed by northern Europeans who look nothing like the indigenous people of the region. The Mizrahi Jews who did not migrate to Europe sure heck weren't considered white by the Ashkenazi Jews who founded modern Israel.
As Egyptian i confirm that we reached to level of hate to Netflix more than anyone in last 10 years at the time .
You should have asked for 20bn! Netflix must fall!
And no one can blame you all! How dare they?!
Thank you for standing against these lies. The documentary made me so angry.
You’re an invader . Egyptians were Black
"i confirm that we reached to level of hate to Netflix"
What does this even mean?
She was Greek, spoke Greek and was, by her own admission, the first Ptolemy who learned to speak the local language
My Granny told me, so it must be true. Therefore, we can change an entire ancient civilisation's culture.
It's probably her granny who also told her that Hannibal was Black 😂 because we have another problem; Denzel Washington has been chosen to play the role of this famous Carthaginian general who challenged Rome during the First Punic War, between Carthage (Tunisia/North Africa) and Rome. And guess what? Hannibal was never Black. I hope Tunisia will initiate a lawsuit like Egypt did.
Granny said but what about CleoBlacktra?
But my grandma said Cleopatra's Chinese! So it must be true! No way my nana's wrong!
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they got sued and lost 2 billion to Egypt... for a 3% audience score .
the only people that watched that disaster was their INTENDED AUDIENCE and their score was 3%🤣🤣🤣
They haven't lost the Lawsuit yet.
And they probably won't lose 2 Billion.
I am fully on your side but why is everyone lying? I was actually confused about if the Lawsuit is already over or not in the beginning.
Who is the "intended audience" then?
what was the intended audience ? deconstructive hatewatchers and critics ?
@@feloniousbutterflyProbably a group of deranged liberal arts rejects looking to be empowered by blatant woke revisionism
@feloniousbutterfly isn't it obvious, black or really woke
The people that are saying Egypt are racist for saying this,
Make a documentary of Martin Luther King Jr and have Robert Downy Jr play as him, if race means nothing it shouldn’t mean anything right?
Like where are these same people that are always saying that actors should look like thier character or so. It’s crazy!
Nah robert would be to handsome ^^ i need to see Danny Devitto in that role. It would be funny as hell!
Even in pure fiction nobody would get away with an Eskimo playing Rosa Parks, or a Māori Martin Luther King.
@@RonTodd-gb1eotook me a bit to realize that Eskimo is the name of a nation. In here eskimo is an ice cream brick on a wooden stick.
Eskimo bars were the best, now you can’t get them. But I still give Eskimo kisses.
Huge difference between an actor blacking up to play a black character and a character blacking up especially if that character is portrayed as an idiot.@@acatte1
I regret giving my £4.99 to Netflix. What is wrong with these idiots?