I drive semi trucks and as I was driving along I accidentally discovered the Antonito yard, I was too early to catch any activity, but I took some fun pictures of the equipment in the yard at about 20 degrees at 5:30am!
"An unsharpened pencil is pointless." Your pylon pointless joke had reminded me of this joke. This was fun watching the pyle driver. That driver was advanced technology for back then. Although the technology has improved a lot since but the method remains relatively the same. It was a joy to see the HO version too. This was a fun episode! Loved the scenic drive too! Thanks again for another great video.
And thanks again for watching! Hope we were not pointless. Planes trains and automobiles. Steve Martin. “ you know those little stories you like to tell? Try this. Have a point. It makes it so much more interesting for the audience”.. So we try to have a point. Even a small one. Like a pencil.
I have absolutely no knowledge of pile drivers or their purpose/reason for driving wood piles into the ground. But, I know people who operate such machinery have the most fun in life. I truly envy railroad people...they get to have the most fun operating all sorts of railroad equipment. All us regular folks with ordinary jobs just get to stand by and watch them having fun operating these railroad equipment. Enjoyed the show despite not knowing about pile drivers, previously. 👍😉
Hi. As it happens they’re driving pilings downtown right now in anticipation of building the tallest building in town! They’re drilling holes into the ground with a giant drill and then drove in pilings into those holes. Very noisy! They’re also driving a bunch of pilings for the new freeway near a garage Mahal. I swear they can rattle all the windows
It is a lovely whistle. I believe it is a D&RGW 5 chime, which is probably inaccurate for the 425 era, when most of the Consolidations had single chimes more akin to 463 or 168. It sure sounds lovely though and 315 looks incredibly fetching in its earlier 425 identity. (I am biased though, as the Edwardian and late Victorian periods are my favourites 🙃)
Greetings! This is great to see. The 'Friends' do a fantastic job keeping all the non-profit generating equipment preserved. I feel they keep a taste of the real character of the old Rio Grande. It was far from being all passenger trains after all! As a coincidence, today I filmed a piece of MOW equipment. Vid coming up in a couple of days hopefully 🤞
Pile and piling denote the same thing and they are driven into the ground. A group of piles or piling driven in a row perpendicular to the track to support a trestle or bridge end is called a bent. The pieces the hammer is between and guides the hammer are called the lead (leed) or leads. The leads can and must be tilted (vertical up to 2.5" per 12") for batter to help brace the bent sideways. If the bent is made of round or square timbers and not driven into the ground but sitting or resting atop a sill or square timber laying horizontal, then the bent is framed and will need more bracing from bent to bent than if it were driven. If a bent has more than 1 horizontal timber above the ground before the cap that supports the stringers, then it is the number of stories high that it takes horizontal timbers to get to the cap under the stringers. In other words, if a bent is made of piles driven into the ground, a horizontal timber then more posts framed on top, then another group of posts framed with a cap and stringers, then that is a 3 (three) story trestle bent. A framed story is usually not over 15 feet high while a driven single story is 25 feet high. If you are following a specific railroad, use its standard plan, I looked at N&W and Pennsylvania RR standard plans. About 1900 till the wide use of the diesel hammer, pile driving was done with a steam-powered hammer that was faster than the drop hammer like the D&RGW OB; the usual steam pile driver on most railroads had a boiler and a means of self-propulsion to accurately locate itself to drive the piling. To help strengthen fills, old rail was driven into the fill by a pile driver. This was the usual training exercise for new driver operators.
Good explanation Roy. Pile can also be driven or drilled and comes in numerous shapes; sizes; and materials. Sorry my comma doesn't work. As always; good job TM!
Hi. Wow. Yes we love building trestles and bridges. I always heard that a support standing on a footing was a bent. A support driven into the ground is a piling. But I’ve always called them all bents. Because if not it’s really confusing. A piling is any wood pile driven into the ground.
When you guys go to a car show this year, perhaps the following Tuesday you could do a show on one of your sports cars! You could do a over video and show footage of the car in action. Just like with the trains on Tuesday shows!!
@@ToyManTelevision thanks!! I appreciate it!! I love old cars. It started as a kid when I watched chitty chitty bang bang and I've been interested ever since. I would love to drive one and go for a ride in a old car or truck one day.
Hi Guy's, your know that they now have an ointment to drive piles away. Lol. That was an interesting video, often wondered about how it was done back in the day. Cheer's John
That was awesome! Been in and out of model railroading my whole life, between this video and a few others, I finally understand how the OB functioned. Digging the HO scale driver that your buddy made, I would love to do something like that on 1:20.3 scale garden railway!
There was a barge with a steam pile driver working a number of years ago in SF Bay. Don't know if it is still working I just have not seen it in maybe ten years.
Love the video on operating the pile driver. It is so amazing all the equipment that the railroad had that ran on steam power. I did find the episodes on Ralph's ho pile driver. He did such a amazing job on building a Ho Scale full working pile driver. Thanks for shareing because it always helps to see how things work in real life to help with trying to model it fully automated model. A lot of people now days don't realize that steam power is what electric and gas power stuff works for us to day. Steam power ran everything from sawmill, mining hoist, maintenance equipment for the railroads, machine shops, etc. Thanks again and be safe.👍🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
A few days ago I saw a video where they were using the OY to clear snow off of the tracks pushed by two steam engines. I hope you got footage of that event too.
Hi again! Yeah this one’s not noisy. But they’ve been using one near our shop garage Mahal on the freeway construction and even inside the building half a mile away it’s deafening it’s just we thought at first it was thunder or something but no it’s their pile driver
In addition to never being able to ride the Cumbers & Toltec Railway, my two friends in Chama who I wanted to go there to see have passed away in short order from each other.
I think piles are what get driven, while pilings are once they're driven, either singly or in groups. I will share what I learned about driving them in: the crew has to drive the piles/pilings to a minimum depth, *and* they gotta keep driving them until the "taps per inch" count exceeds a certain minimum. These specs ensure (1) the pile is deep enough to not lean under load, and (2) the pile has reached a suitably firm substrate. If a geotechnical or civil engineer comes along, I'll readily defer to him/her.
I know when they were driving pi cut off on the great Salt Lake theythey were using the longest polls they could get and still had to stack them two high. How do they stack them? Don’t know.
@@ToyManTelevision I was wondering if someone would mention that little nuance. My experience is limited to one operation with Seabees, who use steel pipes that can be welded end-to-end as needed. Wood is generally harder to weld, I understand.
Building bridges. Mostly. Drive this up to the end of track at a small stream and drive pilings. Not sure how they move forward but some temp structures so they can build bridge pilings every 40 feet or so. Then stringers and track on top of that
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I drive semi trucks and as I was driving along I accidentally discovered the Antonito yard, I was too early to catch any activity, but I took some fun pictures of the equipment in the yard at about 20 degrees at 5:30am!
Thx again
"An unsharpened pencil is pointless."
Your pylon pointless joke had reminded me of this joke.
This was fun watching the pyle driver. That driver was advanced technology for back then. Although the technology has improved a lot since but the method remains relatively the same. It was a joy to see the HO version too.
This was a fun episode! Loved the scenic drive too! Thanks again for another great video.
And thanks again for watching! Hope we were not pointless. Planes trains and automobiles. Steve Martin. “ you know those little stories you like to tell? Try this. Have a point. It makes it so much more interesting for the audience”.. So we try to have a point. Even a small one. Like a pencil.
Definitely not boring but always unique! Great video!
Thanks again!!!
I have absolutely no knowledge of pile drivers or their purpose/reason for driving wood piles into the ground. But, I know people who operate such machinery have the most fun in life. I truly envy railroad people...they get to have the most fun operating all sorts of railroad equipment. All us regular folks with ordinary jobs just get to stand by and watch them having fun operating these railroad equipment. Enjoyed the show despite not knowing about pile drivers, previously. 👍😉
Hi. As it happens they’re driving pilings downtown right now in anticipation of building the tallest building in town! They’re drilling holes into the ground with a giant drill and then drove in pilings into those holes. Very noisy! They’re also driving a bunch of pilings for the new freeway near a garage Mahal. I swear they can rattle all the windows
Back in 1965, I had the pleasure of watching UP operating a steam Pile driver during the construction of a washed out bridge. Had its own boiler..
Like the HO scale one? The state has been driving some pilings for a new freeway bridge near our home. What a noise
@@ToyManTelevision yep believe it was a Lima
Powered unit oil fired. Very much like the HO model.
The power of steam . thank you great video . Have a great week
Awesome video 🚂👍
Thanks again
Interesting having the camera on top of the mustang reminded me of that old movie 🚨
Fun but a pit scary. We have an old GoPro for doing that. Just in case it comes loose.
@@ToyManTelevision 👍👍 😁 that’s a good idea 😁
Thanks for showing stay safe 🙏
Thanks for watching
425 has one of my favorite whistles 2:34
It is a lovely whistle. I believe it is a D&RGW 5 chime, which is probably inaccurate for the 425 era, when most of the Consolidations had single chimes more akin to 463 or 168. It sure sounds lovely though and 315 looks incredibly fetching in its earlier 425 identity. (I am biased though, as the Edwardian and late Victorian periods are my favourites 🙃)
Greetings! This is great to see. The 'Friends' do a fantastic job keeping all the non-profit generating equipment preserved. I feel they keep a taste of the real character of the old Rio Grande. It was far from being all passenger trains after all!
As a coincidence, today I filmed a piece of MOW equipment. Vid coming up in a couple of days hopefully 🤞
Great video !! Saw it.
Pile and piling denote the same thing and they are driven into the ground. A group of piles or piling driven in a row perpendicular to the track to support a trestle or bridge end is called a bent. The pieces the hammer is between and guides the hammer are called the lead (leed) or leads. The leads can and must be tilted (vertical up to 2.5" per 12") for batter to help brace the bent sideways. If the bent is made of round or square timbers and not driven into the ground but sitting or resting atop a sill or square timber laying horizontal, then the bent is framed and will need more bracing from bent to bent than if it were driven. If a bent has more than 1 horizontal timber above the ground before the cap that supports the stringers, then it is the number of stories high that it takes horizontal timbers to get to the cap under the stringers. In other words, if a bent is made of piles driven into the ground, a horizontal timber then more posts framed on top, then another group of posts framed with a cap and stringers, then that is a 3 (three) story trestle bent. A framed story is usually not over 15 feet high while a driven single story is 25 feet high.
If you are following a specific railroad, use its standard plan, I looked at N&W and Pennsylvania RR standard plans.
About 1900 till the wide use of the diesel hammer, pile driving was done with a steam-powered hammer that was faster than the drop hammer like the D&RGW OB; the usual steam pile driver on most railroads had a boiler and a means of self-propulsion to accurately locate itself to drive the piling. To help strengthen fills, old rail was driven into the fill by a pile driver. This was the usual training exercise for new driver operators.
Good explanation Roy. Pile can also be driven or drilled and comes in numerous shapes; sizes; and materials. Sorry my comma doesn't work. As always; good job TM!
Thanks.
Hi. Wow. Yes we love building trestles and bridges. I always heard that a support standing on a footing was a bent. A support driven into the ground is a piling. But I’ve always called them all bents. Because if not it’s really confusing. A piling is any wood pile driven into the ground.
When you guys go to a car show this year, perhaps the following Tuesday you could do a show on one of your sports cars! You could do a over video and show footage of the car in action. Just like with the trains on Tuesday shows!!
Great idea!
@@ToyManTelevision thanks!! I appreciate it!! I love old cars. It started as a kid when I watched chitty chitty bang bang and I've been interested ever since. I would love to drive one and go for a ride in a old car or truck one day.
Hi Guy's, your know that they now have an ointment to drive piles away. Lol. That was an interesting video, often wondered about how it was done back in the day. Cheer's John
Thanks for watching!
That was awesome! Been in and out of model railroading my whole life, between this video and a few others, I finally understand how the OB functioned.
Digging the HO scale driver that your buddy made, I would love to do something like that on 1:20.3 scale garden railway!
There was a barge with a steam pile driver working a number of years ago in SF Bay. Don't know if it is still working I just have not seen it in maybe ten years.
Coooooooooool!
It's refreshing to see something wlse OTHER THAN a steam locomotive being restored to full cfunvtionality!
Fun!
Very cool!
Thanks
Very interesting, love the steam lines to equipment hummm looks like multiy strand wire and ya dont have ta hide the wire's.. Great...
Love the video on operating the pile driver. It is so amazing all the equipment that the railroad had that ran on steam power. I did find the episodes on Ralph's ho pile driver. He did such a amazing job on building a Ho Scale full working pile driver. Thanks for shareing because it always helps to see how things work in real life to help with trying to model it fully automated model. A lot of people now days don't realize that steam power is what electric and gas power stuff works for us to day. Steam power ran everything from sawmill, mining hoist, maintenance equipment for the railroads, machine shops, etc. Thanks again and be safe.👍🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
Thanks
Another neat trip for you guys, nice thank you. By the way Dale is there a model train size of one of those? Just curious. Thanks again guys.
Nope. Not yet… Adam scratch built one. But I’m thinking that would not be all that hard to do.
A few days ago I saw a video where they were using the OY to clear snow off of the tracks pushed by two steam engines. I hope you got footage of that event too.
Never have seen that. Someday.
thay were at the colorado railroad mueasum and tested it there. that was fun.
Well that is cool as hell...never knew that was ever a thing! Thanks for teaching me something new, Dale and Karyn! If you ever come east, look me up!
When working near a Pile Driver hearing protection is a must. This is especially true with modern Diesel Pile Drivers.
Hi again! Yeah this one’s not noisy.
But they’ve been using one near our shop garage Mahal on the freeway construction and even inside the building half a mile away it’s deafening it’s just we thought at first it was thunder or something but no it’s their pile driver
@@ToyManTelevision I had to wear ear plugs while working under the pile driver the whole shift for a couple of weeks.
Spectacular. sledge o matic cool video brother
Defined to see them do that with more than just watermelons. Pumpkins of course would be fun. How about old television sets?
@@ToyManTelevision Old television sets blow up and leave glass everywhere I'm good with all the squash Lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
Super!
You should visit the Alder Gulch Shortline Railroad in Virginia City, Montana
Love to
In addition to never being able to ride the Cumbers & Toltec Railway, my two friends in Chama who I wanted to go there to see have passed away in short order from each other.
Oh gee.. sorry for your loss. Go anyway. You’ll love it.
@@ToyManTelevision I'm old, sick and have no money. I have accepted that will never happen.
pointless,....grooooooan. wonderful video. super cool!. kudos to FOTHC&T
Thanks. Was that you groaning? Or the pile driver
@@ToyManTelevision Mmmmm maybe a little of both on the groaning LOL
I know a lot of places that need piles so they can do a useful demonstration. Problem is they would need to build a RR to the sites.
As long as it’s narrow gauge
I think piles are what get driven, while pilings are once they're driven, either singly or in groups. I will share what I learned about driving them in: the crew has to drive the piles/pilings to a minimum depth, *and* they gotta keep driving them until the "taps per inch" count exceeds a certain minimum. These specs ensure (1) the pile is deep enough to not lean under load, and (2) the pile has reached a suitably firm substrate. If a geotechnical or civil engineer comes along, I'll readily defer to him/her.
I know when they were driving pi cut off on the great Salt Lake theythey were using the longest polls they could get and still had to stack them two high. How do they stack them? Don’t know.
@@ToyManTelevision I was wondering if someone would mention that little nuance. My experience is limited to one operation with Seabees, who use steel pipes that can be welded end-to-end as needed. Wood is generally harder to weld, I understand.
Now I have to find a piledriver in ho scale.
Very cool show. It's neat see how pile driver operates. One question, how far from the center line of the track can it drive a pile?
Not far. Perhaps 8 feet? 6 feet?
What was the purpose of the pilings along the railroad? And during which period was this a regular activity?
Building bridges. Mostly. Drive this up to the end of track at a small stream and drive pilings. Not sure how they move forward but some temp structures so they can build bridge pilings every 40 feet or so. Then stringers and track on top of that
We have seen this already.
Yup. Different event. These guys love to do this demo
Denver and Rio grande is an old railroad but they have many preserved steam locomotive but I don't know how much
*such an old
*I wondey why they have
Yeah
Dale and Karen, Can you tell me where people are finding 1/48th scale Model A automobiles?
Hum. We did a show about model Ts in 1:48. Search the www.shapeways.com/ site.
Also, Dale, When I go to Toy Man Television, all I find there is 120 videos. However you say you have hundreds of Videos, How can I find them?
Hi. RUclips is weird that way. From the channel you should see them in the videos tab. But often they don’t show to everyone. Some people see one list, some another. There are the play lists too. Look for the play list tab. But it won’t always show all the playlists either. But the more you watch you should see more. I need to see if I can figure a way to fool the algorithm so all the videos show.
If they were using steel beams instead of wood it would split the rock.
Modern ones do!
That pile drivers is up a creek if they don't have a steam engine to help run it.
Yup. But it also is stuck in the yard. Not self propelled
A pile driver only works one pile. A piling is a land dam of piles...
Darn thing sounds like a old gas tractor ...