When you can't train a horse, confuse them instead.
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Like if you’re here after she threatened to sue me lmao
So shes gonna use the stick to scare him into staying out of her space, and then quickly move it toward his face when he is standing quietly to rub him to cue a continued stop and stand?! Like she cant ve that stupid...
well we definitely know who’s right and who’s the karen in this situation.
she obviously didn’t even watch the video and she’s SUING you? wtf?
LMFAO....threatening to sue u!!!! Why did she post this video at all? I bet she probably has comments turned off as I'm pretty sure she'd be suing most people who were to comment on what she is doing. I guess we all better on alert for commenting and not agreeing with this brain frying way of training, I guess I'll see if I get summoned although it will take extra time to get to me as I'm in Australia! Something to look forward to in the mail other than damn bills lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Keep on being u sweetheart as I'm so glad I found ur channel and I know it's done in the style to educate people that what's being done isn't correct and that includes the people posting these videos too, and if u can get thru to even just 1 person, it's 1 person who won't ruin anymore horse's that come thru their hands! Stay beautiful xoxo
Heyyy 😂
Watching it again to support the video.(even though the clips of her abusing that poor horse makes my blood boil)
Mini or not, stallion or not, your horse should NEVER fear you or your tools. That's a huge red flag in these so called "trainers"
My Saddlebred mare was afraid of hay forks and any tools I used in their pens and stalls. She had been abused by the former owner who was Amish. I gently worked with her and she overcame her fears. It was so rewarding to see her become a happy and confident mare.
I think people need to go to good trainers too. Most horses come back to the owner doing great but the owner is actually the problem.
She just got the horse, and the horse clearly fears the whip. I'm no equestrian, but doesn't that mean she should have first checked if he has trauma via severe reactions to various items, and not use those items til she knows him, and also aim to desensitise him to them SLOWLY (over time)? Idk just going by what feels like common sense and knowledge of other animals.
@@jules8299 Amish are awful to animals
@@CrazyDaisy8008 that's like saying humans are horrible to animals. Not every Amish is horrible to animals, just like not every human is horrible to animals
This stallion seems so chill on his own. I hope this “training” doesn’t ruin his calm disposition. 🥺
Yeah same, he seems so sweet but he’s just so frightened and probably irritated with the “trainer”
" hes very speacial to me "
" good boy , what a good boy "
*runs after him with a whip*
IKR... that woman is such a bad faker to "try look good on the internet"...
Meanwhile forced the head close to her like wtf
I have a horse who reacts just like this pony due to previous trainers, she's very scared when she does something wrong and if you make sudden movements, she gets scared (because of her previous owners). I have to deal with the effects of trainers like this lady here and it's sad to watch and hard to deal with. Thank you Raleigh so much for shedding light on this. Love you! ❤
What you do to calm her down?
@@biaV1997 I keep my lead rope loose, letting her back away if she feels the need to and to let her know she's not trapped. I talk to her in a soothing voice, pet her and let her calm down for a bit before trying again. If you have any tips or think I'm doing something wrong, please let me know I would deeply appreciate it.
My current horse was beat up for every little mistake he made
When I raised my hand to stretch myself he would flee in panic. When he was doing something he wasn't supposed to (like chewing on a saddle) and I said mild "hey" he would just tuck his tail in and run full speed. Couldn't throw anything on him (blankets etc) as he would just bend underneath it like if it was bag of bricks. When you got him on a lunge line he would back up in panic and run to outside of the circle asap, you clicked at him to speed up and he would flinch hard and break into canter
It took a year to fix those issues that previous "trainer" caused (who is licensed btw)
Thanks, I'm Brasilian the normal training here is kinda brutal so I want to be prepared. I'm checking out every possibly out come. I'm still a student, my horse is on the future.
@@biaV1997 continue watching Raleigh @Think Like A Horse and @WarwickSchiller
Have a great day👍🏼😎
I also love when people hold horses with 5" of room on the rope and then smack them for coming into their space. HELLOOOOO you gave them literally NO OTHER CHOICE.
Exactly, she’s not allowing him to make a decision.. she’s forcing him to stay close to her but also punishing him if he gets too close? Woman what do you want ??
Right, like where else are they supposed to go???
And that's why she's probably demonstrating her unique methods on a miniature pony... because it's a small pony, she can manage to constantly pull upwards on the headcollar/halter and force the pony to always face her... when clearly, as Raleigh said, all he wants to do is get away from her. There's zero bond between the pony and trainer, and zero understanding or training being achieved. 🙄😡🙄
Some "trainers" are so focused on their horses' "manners" that they forget the crucial step of "how are MY manners."
You can't begin to teach a horse to respect you if you yourself can't respect the horse.
Thank you for exposing this lady!
I’m 72 & can’t ride anymore, & was only an occasional rider, but have done positive reinforcement with dogs. Even I can tell this little horse is trying to avoid this person. I love your comments & wish I had encountered someone like you when I was younger - I might have worked harder at my riding
Let's investigate this further. At 15:15, the mini is walking next to her so beautifully, doing absolutely perfect. No bumping into her, no nipping, nothing. Just walking. What is the woman's response to that? Yank on his face at 15:18. Obviously he reacts to having his face yanked up to the moon and freaks out probably because he's associated her yanking on his face with being smacked by the whip and chased in circles. AND THEN AT 15:33 SHE PATS AND "REWARDS" HIM FOR WALKING NEXT TO HER LIKE HE HAD ALREADY JUST DONE? She has now proved to everyone that she is dumb, inconsistent, and abusive.
Thankyou!!!
Exactly what I was thinking! This little guy seems to be a very good pony, with the right person training him, he would be awesome.
i get what youre saying, but from an in-hand showman's perspective, in the first timestamp it *isnt* perfect. in showmanship, points most likely would have been deducted or the pattern wouldnt be in favor of the judge- he doesnt have fluid motion as preferred, he is ahead of the handler, he is tight (as expected), there is no relaxation in any form, and when she overcorrects, his turns his eye to the outside (and probably gets very rigid as he does so due to the pressure on the lead). in the second clip there is something to finally be *positively* rewarded for in her eyes: he has bend, he is actively moving, he is looking to her, his attention is more-or-less on her. you have to dissect from the sport she competes and trains in, otherwise you wont truly understand why she didnt positively praise one behavior but praise the other. - (from someone who shows shetlands and miniatures using R+ and balanced training methods, and trains under a breeder and showman who competed in congress and world, and has won, who is also heavily involved in both ASPC and AMHA/AMHR, and has been for decades.)
its a theme in the in-hand world to expect too much too soon, especially with old-school showmen such as the trainer above, to overcorrect and be very "no in my space". in that world, *not* punishing- in many cases, backing upexcessively- *is* praise, it is positive reinforcement. she isnt inherently "dumb" -you shouldnt call anyone dumb while critiquing- just old-school, stuck in her ways, and a trend-follower. she has shown that she is old-school, heavy-handed, and rigid. which is usually cruel.
@@fluffysubstances8992 I absolutely see where you are coming from with a showing point of view, but as you said, she is expecting too much too soon and is definitely overcorrecting in a very unnecessarily erratic and aggressive manner. I consider her inherently stupid due to the fact that she sees this animals reaction, she sees his eyes get wide, she sees his frantic movements, and still continues to think she is actually TEACHING this mini something? If someone is a horse trainer and can't even pick up on the most basic horse body language that even a toddler could pick up on, I'm sorry, but that qualifies in my eyes as them being stupid. Now, if she sees and understands this horses body language and knows he is very obviously not in a calm headspace and chooses to smack him around anyway, that is just plain ignorance which is even worse than stupidity or just a simple lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge isn't even an excuse anymore because the answers to everything in the world are now at almost anyone's fingertips. I just cannot understand how someone can see an animal, know that it is scared, know that they are the cause for this fear, and continues to choose to scare them even more. That is just disappointing and embarrassing.
@@fluffysubstances8992 calling someone out for being dumb is a criticism , just not constructive unless you provide ways for them to not be dumb
Being dumb in a subject is p much just saying someone is ignorant but in a way that's ridiculous to even basic standards of ignorance.
Isn't it fascinating how you can tell that the mini gets more and more stressed and afraid of her with each second the video goes on? She keeps smacking or "tapping" him with the whip from behind her back, and he tries harder and harder to avoid that by moving his hind end away further away with more and more unwillingness to work with her. Naturally, he would also move his head away if he could, but she's forcing him to stay close to her with that very hard grip on that double knot rope halter while also driving him away with the stick.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous indeed. I’m curious if she would have used the same ‘method’ if this wasn’t a mini, but a big horse instead…
as someone who works with stallions: they are practically the same as any other horse. they have their quirks sure and you need to take caution especially since they like to bite but they are as amazing and as trainable as any other horse.
She's even confusing me... What is she trying to do? I'm so confused.
Edit: "I'm backing him up" yeah.. No. He is not backing up. He's in more of a flight position and can't get away. He's trying to get away. That's all that's happening.. He's just trying to escape.
No but can we talk about how the horse is reacting the exact same way at the end of her video as he did at the start?? She didnt achieve anything!
In fact, id bet money on the fact that she actually backtracked his training
Gotta love that she calls a whip a "training stick." Call it what it is, a whip! She's just trying to make it sound ok so she can sell more programs. (Haven't finished the video yet, just my opinion)
Edit: Another thing, why demand this horse give you space but hold his lead rope right under his chin? I'm confused just watching this video, I can't imagine how this stallion feels.
You should see Linda Tellington-Jones. Not sure how much content she has online (I’m pretty sure she was popular in the 80s or 90s) but she calls whips “wands.” The only training video I’ve ever seen of hers was her confusing the hell out of a poor young mare with inappropriate exercises like improperly distanced poles that just stressed the poor horse out. At one point when the mare was having trouble with an exercise, Tellington-Jones responded by making the exercise MORE DIFFICULT and then was surprised when the horse freaked out.
The misconception about stallions being difficult to handle is so true, I feel like many stallions are abused/manhandled due to these misconceptions and the handlers being fearful or uneducated. Part of me also thinks that many stallions develop 'bad behaviours' as a result of the people handling them incorrectly too. Stallions should be treated with the same level of care and respect as any other horse.
Yt made me realise that how many of them rotting in a stall all day and they also used in yt videos under the titles: how to handle a stallion etc.. like that is not a well kept stallion its a wreck what sits in the box all day and is frustrated.
@@Angelaius I worked on a breeding yard that only turned the stallion out for a couple of hours every three or four days. When I got there I thought he was dark chestnut, after I bathed him for the first time I found out he was dapple grey. The yard owner shouted at me for bathing the stallion and not one of the show ponies, although they were bathed weekly and groomed several times a day.
He was such a good boy considering he spent so much time in his stable, he was actually very sweet and loved a little cuddle and scratch. Every time I spent any time with him, to groom him or walk him out on the yard for a tiny bit of exercise I was told off for wasting time. To the owner he had no value other than a sperm dispenser once a year and he was locked away after his use was fulfilled. It was disgusting and I still feel guilty for leaving him there.
Stallions probably become difficult because they aren’t allowed to act like an actual horse and just live a long miserable life full of boredom. Thats terrible.
I’m not a horse, and I am still confused as to what this lady’s goal was
Omg I had the same thought.
That's just what a horse with internet access would say!
i feel bad do that poor pony he has absolutely no idea what she’s doing to him someone needs to step in and help that poor boy!
I have a mini stallion, he's super sweet and safe enough that my little sister can lie all over him. He's not spooky and we take him for super long walks over hilly terrain. He walks along with you with little to no pressure and comes to his name. The gelding I have is way more spooky. There's totally big misconceptions with stallions...
She is training that horse about *Paradoxes* because she wants him to stand next to her, but not be next to her, so when he stands next to her, she'll train him to be next to her but not be next to her. It's endless.
Actually the myth about stallions compare quite well to mares.
I really just dislike the terms surrounding them (grumpy mares, typical mare behaviour, and so on)
The correlation may be that mares and stallions are unlike geldings in their natural hormonal balance and act just more sensitive (but thats just a personal belief)
So uneducated people judge about them because they cant handle it properly// accordingly to the horses needs 🤦🏼♀️
When the truth can be that -for us- one of the hardest most difficulty horses at our barn is a gelding!
In the end every horse is a complex individual being. And our job is to try to communicate and understand ☺
exactly! i rode a mare few years back and she was the sweetest ever the owner even let her daughter of 3 sit on her with just a halter
Facts 👏
Yes, the language around mares is annoying.
I like how this woman is talking about manners horses should have good ground manners but they are horses, animals like they don’t always understand everything and at the beginning it completely looked like she was ripping that poor ponies face off 🤦♀️
Also when she was trying to tap him he was literally trying to run away and it’s clear she has beat him and this is so annoying that people continually give stallions bad names they are really sweet and gentle then what people make them out to be so thank you Raleigh for clearing this up because I have lost all hope and faith in humanity at this point I feel like the world can end now honestly
Even in this video that stallion clearly has exceptionally good ground manners. He only “misbehaves” when she terrorised him for doing what she asked him to do. Poor guy
@@BannerThePonyboxer yeah thanks for sharing
She actually just got her Tiktok removed for lying bullying and falsely claiming she’s a vet student 🤣
@@wellthen4948 lol as she should
You can see him getting increasingly more and more frustrated! Like Raleigh said, all she’s doing is teaching him how to back away from her! He’s just going to end up scared, confused and annoyed! I feel for him so much! I’d really love to know how many times a day, week, month she subjects him to this!!
I would like to add that a horse lacking ground manners / who does not understand personal space would likely NOT stand quietly like that neither near a human - that horse might try to push, pull, pick out pockets, etc. For me, that mini was just fine and she created problems (intentionally or not, I don't know)
Oh and I LOL'ed when the pony dragged her out of the video shot and then she reappeared on the other side of the ring. Hysterical.
That mini is so huggable. Why would you even want him "out of your space"?
What a well behaved pony ♥︎
There was not even a sec of head relase, even when she's talking bullshit next to this poor mini she's holding his head so tight :(
I watch a channel called Modern History TV (it's mostly about medieval stuff and horses) and that guy owns and raises horses, he's got more than one stallion. They are so well trained and they are super sweet and calm. It shows on them that he knows what he's doing. You can always see on the horse.
I love it when horses are in my space. I love hugging my horses and petting them. And when my horse gets in the way of me doing something, I just ask her to back up and reward with a carrot. She understands that. Her best friend is a pony and he can be quite pushy, but again I just ask him to back up, and reward if he does. Yesterday for the first time he backed up without requiring a reward and I was able to take my horse out of the paddock safely without him running out. Positive reinforcement and association does wonders. This lady is a nutcase and she should be held accountable and punished for this animal abuse
Love you Raleigh! Look forward to every single video
Same!!
So you all just wait for videos of someone ripping other people apart, with no context? Interesting.
@@tmorellofan lol if you can't see that she's right almost every time... its time to look in a mirror lolol
@@tmorellofan chill. It’s time to hold your horses and be mentally stable ☺️ LOL
@@tmorellofan what? You love horse abusers, or general abusers? You sure sound like you do.
there's a project horse at our barn that we are retraining. he freaks out if you make too sudden of a movement (like yesterday where i was walking him around the arena to get him used to everything, and i turned my head too quickly and he nearly yanked the lead of of my hands) because of his previous owners. i honestly don't understand how some people are still allowed near horses.
I ride a Quarter horse stallion and he’s very mellow. If you met him you’d think he was a gelding because of how mellow he is. Stallions can be just as great and maybe even better than most mares. The whole “stallions are dangerous” thing is BS. There’s mares who are harder to ride than most stallions and I love that people are starting to realize stallions are amazing!! Also I hate how these people wear western hats and western attire when they “train” and call themselves “cowboys”(once again the background revolves around slaves) or trainers/equestrians
Exactly, the stallions that are dangerous are probably treated like monsters and haven’t been trained at all. They can be excellent horses when they aren’t treated like they’re gonna kill someone who isn’t experienced enough.
Yes! True true, stallions only ‘act up’ as people say if they’re trying to defend their mates, (mares or just their herd)
And people don’t understand that
@@Ilovecrystals922 they also “act up” if they aren’t properly trained. The stallion I ride is AMAZING and I actually learned to properly ride on him.
The stallion "crazyness" come from locking them in stable or tiny pasture without any social contact with other horses. While I do agree that any horse well trained can be calm & sweet, there's no training that fix basic horse requeriment & socialisation lacking.
Sadly there's still a lot of place where you can't give your horse the life he deserve (pasture with friends) when he's a stallion.
@@wsword223 Well, that’s with any horse though. And any animal, it shouldn’t be subjected to stallions. But I love stallions, it’s just safer for mares to get stallions castrated so they can be out with more horses other then geldings. But that’s my opinion, stallions get a bad rap bc people don’t tend to their needs. Same with mares. Stereotypes are out of hand
My heart breaks, seeing this footage. I own a miniature Shetland mare since January, knowing her for 9 years and did a lot of training with her during the years. She trusts me and walks with me through everything, I never had to use unfair methods or hitting her through stuff. She’s still a cheeky little pony, but that doesn’t mean I react to her, asking me if I’m serious, tormenting her with unnecessary whipping. We argue, but for a result, I want trust, not following because of fear.
My little mare loves humans, especially children, she’s very kind, friendly and I think that’s because I taught her to trust people. She doesn’t bite or hit, is very aware she doesn’t hurt anyone.
I can’t stand the groundwork of this woman. I don’t see any logic in what she’s doing. That little guy wants to run away from her, he‘s literally waiting for a shank on the halter or a whip being used. Doesn’t matter if it’s a stallion, she doesn’t have a logic behind her so called groundwork.
I have seen a lot of very well behaved and trained miniature stallions on pony shows, of course you need to have in mind that they can react like stallions do, but otherwise it’s just a horse - a horse needs logical rules, exercises and they need to respect you.
Well, I can see why she's working with a tiny horse instead of a big one (that'd be harder to bully).
ALSO: I'm no trainer (or rider), but he's _instantly_ reacting [fear aversion] to the slightest move of the whip. Isn't it thus counterintuitive to also use the whip as "positive reinforcement"? (Doing that rubbing thing she does when he's "good") Afaik she's just teaching him to be afraid of the whip and "git outta my space", and he is, verily. She's just scaring him and confusing his tiny lil brain (and mine) so wth does she expect?! Equestrians, pls help! Ty.
you got it
I think that a good thing to do when you're training a horse, is to put yourself in their position, and think "if I were this horse, would I understand what I wanted from me???" its so important to be clear in what behavior you want from them...this lady is a masterclass in how to not be. so many people would not even understand what would this lady wanted from them, much less a horse😔
I love how that “trainer” thinks she is actually fixing something in that horse
Hey Raleigh! So when we got talking abt the misconception about stallions I felt that. For two reasons. 1. I used to think that way too until I gained more knowledge. 2. At my barn my mentor is trying to train this beautiful young Stallion named Indie and he’s a sweetheart. I had asked my Dad after my lesson if I could let him quickly before I went to go pet the ancient one ( aka the horse I used to ride who’s ancient but again really sweet). He put his head over the fence and gently sniffed our hands ( my dad decided to pet him and follow my lead since ik more abt horses than him [ he’s still learning!]) and was very sweet when we were petting him. Even if the fly’s were bothering him.
This video makes me want to scream. It is so telling him to do one thing then expecting another. Hes frantic because hes confused as hell. He looksclike he has perfectly good manners to me.
My first horses were miniature, green, young stallions. I was 12, and they ended up being the best horses and sweetest ever! I knew little about horses, we just built trust, and went from there. We never had to hit them or scare them. They were so willing and lovable. ❤ I miss them! This lady is teaching that horse to be nervous and anxious.
I have worked with a lot of stallions. I respect the fact they are studs, other than that, they are taught manners AT ALL TIMES.
One TB stud was known for being very fractious, his brain cells had all migrated south. After a short time and giving him plenty of exercise and getting him fit, he became a good riding horse, I Fox Hunted him, he’d stand among other horses with no issues. I could ride him and pony another from him.
He knew the difference between his riding bridle and his covering bridle, he learned to be polite to the mares he was covering. I gave him respect and he gave it back to me.
It's sad that nobody understands that she's training for the Japan World Cup #1 video game. Such an underrated sport
Can we just talk about your hair for a moment?
🙌GORGEOUS!🙌
I love how she is like wanted him out of her space but gets upset when he stops out of her space. The goes like bump and tap bump and tap like it a "real" technique. 🤣
''most people i think just want there to be problems and just want to make a bigger deal out of things'' EXACTLY
Love the way you put this whole video! Also with the spacial awareness, I have a horse and she has some issues with space. It has taken the whole time we've owned her for her to start consistently knowing to keep a appropriate distance away from us. And today she is still sometimes just wants to stand close because that just her personality too. It's life long training and appropriate correcting
I worked as a stable hand for a guy who bred horses (backyard breeder) and the only reason his studs didn’t bite him was cause he beat fear into them.
(He also breeds for looks not temper.)
They were all kept pent up in stalls and had no manners (not to mention, he put the stud stalls right next to the mares) so whenever I took them out they raised hell: biting kicking, rearing, dragging me in circles.
My 2nd favorite stud on the property was a 2 year old, Goose, he would have been a great horse if he ever got worked and wasn’t head shy (from getting hit so much) but whenever you’d turn your head from him to open a gate, he’d swing his head and bash it into yours.
My favorite stud was a 23 year old, Lucky, who was blind in his left eye, they told me to take the whip in there an beat him away from you cause “he’s a handful” but I found on my first day that if you leave the whip outside and just ask him to move (and try to make sure he can see/hear you at all times, it helps to talk to him while you’re in there), he’s a giant sweetheart. He only acts up when you give him a reason to.
Had to quit cause of unsafe working conditions and the workload
(20 stalls, 7 untrained studs, to one teenage girl in 90 degree weather, 7 days a week and I was supposed to do it for a year an he’d give me Lucky’s daughter).
When I logged it for FFA it came out to almost 500 hours before I had to quit.
I really didn’t want to leave the horses but my mom called it off when she was almost trampled by one of the studs.
Really loved this video, some people don't seem to understand anything of what they're doing, it's so sad for the horses...
I've learned so much about the horses anatomics and proper relationship to my horse just from watching Raleighs videos too. Actually I'm really happy and thankful to be able to teach my 3yr old green horse everything myself, she's my soul horse definitely!
I ain't a professional either, only had many years of experience riding and helped work with many green horses. I definitely am making mistakes at times too, but my girl too, we both know it and will make it up to each other again immediately! She absolutely acts the same way I do towards her, she's a mirror. That helps us both so much to grow! She's so calm and unafraid of everything, has lots of self-esteem, goes into and drives in a trailer without any problem, I'm so proud of her. ❤️
I hope we will come far and she will always love what we do!
The horse is not a problem at all. She is creating the problem.
Raleigh: I know my last video was incredibly difficult to stomach and difficult to watch...
Me: Checks to see that the last video was "Horses in weddings is dumb."
(I know she was talking about the barrel racing video, I just thought this was kinda funny lol)
ANYWAYS, in all seriousness, it's never, EVER ok to mistreat a horse based solely on its gender. This "trainer" clearly has no idea what she's doing and definitely shouldn't be working with this poor pony.
Amen!! When I was young, I helped a older lady with her beautiful Arabian stallion. She was 4ft nothing and maybe 95 lbs,Thor was at least 15 hands. He was so gentle. Even when she was leading him to a mare, he never acted out. Thanks for pointing that out.
i have mini ponies and one is a little naughty when i’m training him. he bites at me when we transition into trot and canter. anyways, i was googling mini pony training videos to help me and she popped up. I’m not familiar with training horses but i saw one of her videos and i was in shock. even i know that pony is uncomfortable and scared. i’m no professional but i’m also not stupid enough to hurt and scare a horse.
I can’t even finish this video, this ‘trainer’ is too aggravating!!
I just LOVE your side looks to your camera lol. It really feels like you are actually looking at your viewers and not just your camera haha
Holy shit this person is STRESSING ME OUTTT what does she wanttt 😭
Poor pony, he needs a trainer that understands him and how to get him to trust their trainer without the whip the proper way giving him lots of love instead of pushing him away, it looked like he wanted to kick her
I can only vouch for my own horse in this instance, as he is a stallion, and he is by far the most calm and gentle horse I’ve ever met or handled or ridden in my entire life. 💙
I wanna see these "trainers" train an actual ruined/aggressive horse, or a horse that really has the issues they describe, that'd probably give them a reality check
The fact that she said I’m going to ‘tap’ him but she smacked him like poor guy! He seems so nice and is so gorgeous and he’s just so scared
I have seen horsemanship channels who have really made a significant change, really fast, with dangerous horses that are all in your space. Without whipping.
i have a feeling this is gonna be a needed video
He looks like such an adorable pony, and tbh he seems like he would be so well behaved with someone who wasn't holding a whip, wasn't pulling his face, and holding so close to the halter. I honestly think he looks so well behaved to be putting up with this. Someone needs to pull her face and turn her around with a whip to train her. God bless this poor pony
Edit: I got further into the video, literally EVERY TIME he starts to listen she adds more resistance! She isn't giving the pressure release after he actually does good. He isn't getting told that what he is doing is right, because she is constantly giving cues that what he is doing is wrong so he is getting more confused.
I worked for 4 years at a game reserve horse riding facility in South Africa and they only used stallions and geldings. Part of my job was the training and maintenance of training of the horses. They bought 3/4yr old stallions from a breeder who bred lovely boerperd horses in a natural setting rarely interacting with them. They would come to me totally untouched and nervous of people but those stallions were the easiest to start and back! The sweetest souls with such variety of different personalities that would bloom and I'd never worked with stallions before and was initially nervous.. but I found that once I gained their trust they were the most loyal partners.coming from a herd atmosphere they were very sensitive to body language and never needed any extra aids of any kind they would respond to my body language and became very soft and good with a simple voice command on ground and under saddle . Never a kick, nip, buck or rear in all my years of the many different stallions. I made sure to do plenty of gentle groundwork and adjust for the difference in personality and age (mental, physical and emotional age!) of each horse. I have appreciated and been in love with stallions ever since! And of the boerperd breed - have a look maybe ❤️
I love how the house gets WORSE throughout the video. Poor dude is just scared & confused.
At like the 15 minute mark this horse was like already pulling back and she was like I’m just gonna back him up
She confused me I can’t imagine how confused the horse was 😂
I hate that everyone is getting mad at you for speaking the truth, preach
Thank you for spending time on this. What a mess. I notice how at certain points when she torques on the halter to create enough discomfort the horse shifts his weight and pulls / walks backward and then she torques the halter in a different direction and pretends she's the one making him walk backward like there's actually a point to it.
A horse at work has had issues getting into people’s personal space since before I worked there. We spent a few months working on it for a few minutes each day while I walked him to our horse walker or to turnout. He doesn’t crowd people’s space nearly as much as he used to and he no longer chews on the lead as you walk him. All I needed was a lead rope and he was never scared or stressed. I’m by no means a horse trainer and I know what works for this horse may not work for every horse, but it goes to show that there are humane ways to teach horses to respect your space.
I have two stallion that I rode as a kid and they are both great horses to be around and are not rude or aggressive
Poor mini he's like somebody help me!
Raleigh yes I so glad I found you on RUclips I’ve learned so much!
“As soon as the horse veers” quote by the lady who says she’s a trainer.
Bro the horse is getting out of your space what do you want for him!
Thanks Raleigh. I'm glad you stop when you did. It was so painful to see this beautiful little guy treated like that. 👍
just our queen Raleigh slaying again
From my experience it is crucial to be able to stay calm while training your horse. Just by looking at her video showes how stressed not just the horse but also she is. She lets him pull her around and copes by walking faster and moving more, which wont get anyone to calm down. Whatever problems may exist as long as the horse is stressed and scared there wont be any progress happining, so addressing that stress would be the first step. also petting him with an object he is scared of is not much of a reward lol
We never did this with the horses on our farm. We mainly used body language to shoo the horse back when they got to close and we played a game of red light green light when we were training them to walk and stop properly on a lead. As far as I can remember only one horse was trained for riding but we trained both to be mindful of space and to walk right on a lead. This looks terrible. It doesn't need to be this complex and confusing.
you have taught me alot about horses and how they should be kept thank you so much!
I’m pretty sure one my friends’ mini had this experience because now if he’s anywhere near a whip when someone is working with him he spooks and completely shuts down. It breaks me when people do things like this and call it the horses fault. He’s an amazing in-hand pony now that he’s had proper training and a loving hand on him.
Omg her eyes are just flinching as she’s watching the video she must be mad!
These are the best videos to watch. They help me to improve.
I had a project horse and I sent her to a “trainer”and she came back to me so scared of a whip where if there was one near her at all she would rear and bolt spook it was so bad but I worked with her everyday with it and she at the end could be near one and not be scared she definitely still reacted to it but was way better
Thank you for making so much content Raleigh!
So true. It took me almost 5 months of exercises 2-4 times per week to teach my ex-race gelding to move back on a cue or move his hind and front quarter away and generally not to sit on my head whenever he feels like doing it. His previous owners were just racing him and petting him and hugging with him in his stalls. It was absolutely impossible to do any training in hands as he was just standing near you, walking towards you, poking you with his head, pushing you with his shoulders if you tried to move him anywhere. No way you can teach 10 y.o. horse to back off in one training session if he didn't know this before even with the best true trainer!
When she got distracted with talking to the camera and stopped holding the whip close to the horses back legs, and then stopped while still talking at the camera, distracted from what she was doing before. the horse actually walked normally beside her and stopped neatly next to her way I presume she wanted, and she did not even notice.
Yup. He's clearly afraid of the whip. Look at how he leans away and his eyes go weird when she even holds the whip closer to him. It doesn't take a genius!! (I mean the "trainer", not you. You get it!)
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS RALEIGH!!
You can not work on awareness of "personal space" when you hold a horse on such a short lead, there is no space between the horse could respect. She holds him, head up and forces him to stay close to her. The horse is beautiful and calm. I wonder how things would be, if she would go out of his personal space...
Thia is such a good comentrary to the crazy barn witch lady 'training' that poor horse. I would also add that there are moments where she pressures him so much that a little bit more of bullying would push him over the edge. She's walking on a thin ice here. That pony could drag her across the arena if she was just a tad more agressive. And I would laugh so hard!
“He’s a stallion, he needs manners!”
The horse: “………”
This horse has every right to knock her down.
Poor guy is terrified
Raleigh! PLEASE address the daybyday SITUATION!!! Chances hind leg is bending werid at a walk . Laura is already saying that it's just the camera angle!!! Sophie thinks she is going to train the horse to be a jumper. Mean while his back leg looks like it's gonna snap off!. Sophie is still using her reins to balance. She is WAY too big for this underweight thoroughbred. Even if he wasn't under weight she looks like a giant on him. Her weight is out of control. Chance swishes his tail when Sophie rides him but not when Gabby rides him. Not suggesting that Gabby should be training him either.
Dude that horse looks like he’s seen some s*** he’s absolutely traumatized when he sees that whip holy cow
Thank you, Raleigh!
Dang this is so hard to watch. My friend owns a couple of therapy ponies of River's size and they've had no whipping/hitting training and they respond like angels. I help out from time to time and I'll never forget this one session when I assisted with a none leadrope exercise with a client. Pony could of easily ran off to grass or other ponies but he stayed with us, listened to voice commands and completed the course with no need to pull on his face. I hope little River can find a loving home and that the "trainer" can ditch the whips when working with ponies.
She is holding the lead way to close to his face, and he is not disengaging, he is trying to get away from her space, and is confused as hell.
I feel bad for this poor pony he is absolutely beautiful and right now he is being ruined. Let’s pray she will get her crap together.
This right here is how you make a horse hate you. Like what the hell is she trying to do?
That poor little pony is sooo confused.. 😢 He seems like such a sweet little pony, but so afraid of her and confused 🙁
I'm sure the mini feels it's special too! Lol
omg I love Ur videos keep up the amazing work💕💕💕💕👍
I have a teenage stallion and I’ve been handling him with love, respect and calm and clear directions ever since I got him. He’s never been whipped or forced into submission or mistreated otherwise. He’s the most well behaved, calm and loving horse now. With stallions it’s that they often are more demanding, meaning they ever so often like you as their partner- and you won’t be able to successfully work with a stallion if you don’t truly see and accept them as your partner- to take a step back, re-evaluate and eventually make adjustments. My stallion loves working with me, he loves learning things and showing off his skills. But he literally demands of me 100% of the time to really work with him. Every single second. I can’t ever just let him go, he’ll get seriously pissed when I „leave him alone“ when riding him.
But other than that I don’t treat him any other as the other horses. We spend time together, we play a lot, I take him on walks, all the good stuff. Stallions are just like other horses, except a little more diva. 😜