The Forgotten Creeks

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • The Forgotten Creeks
    Executive Producer Seth Johnson for Long Leaf Studios
    Produced by Rebekah Hall Evans for Illuminate FIlms
    Edited by Joel Evans
    Music By Mike Brassell
    First aired on Alabama Public Television
    "The Forgotten Creeks" recalls the history of Alabama’s Creek Indians from Spanish contact in the 1500s to the Indian Removal Act of 1830 to the Poarch Creek Band's modern-day success story.
    See our documentary on Arthur Shores, one of Alabama's very first African-American attorneys who spent his lifetime fighting in a segregated court system.
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Комментарии • 137

  • @MAGaBAMA_84
    @MAGaBAMA_84 5 месяцев назад +15

    Sooo many people in Alabama, have native blood, but the Gov is making it difficult to trace your native blood, and tribal# We had to trace ours through our family trees, archives, and census records.

    • @NashBashy
      @NashBashy 4 месяца назад +3

      HI, what do you mean? How is the Gov prohibiting that? Curious...

    • @mikedavis6690
      @mikedavis6690 3 месяца назад

      Sounds like everyone else that traces thru the same means…..be glad you have those means .

  • @scottydont9540
    @scottydont9540 8 месяцев назад

    Some of my oldest and fondest memories are going to the Pow Wow on Thanksgiving and it's great to see how far the tribe has come since then. My grandfather was friends with the Cheif and I my mom has great stories about him coming for dinner in his full regalia to talk business with my grandfather. I love that this film gave me greater context for that time and place.

  • @Damesplace
    @Damesplace 8 месяцев назад +22

    This is my Mothers family's story. Sharecropping until they couldn't and then moved down to Pahokee Florida. My mother took her own life in 1980, at just 30. If she could have gone to College, learned about hor culture and not had to hide it, She may very well have been helping make the way for others. I only found out this past year, and I hope to make connections. I always felt a way that I didn't even feel allowed to feel. I am so thankful to know thete was a reason, The sadness in my Grandmother and Mother are with me, but I hope to get it together and tell thier stories and mine. The younger generation need to hear the stories and keep them alive. To understand why generational trauma must be addressed, is one of the best lessons. Native Americans have been gaslit after every other atrocity ......we can heal and this is duch a step in the right direction.

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  8 месяцев назад +3

      We are very sorry what happened to your mother. Thank you for sharing this part of your story with us.

  • @Vne_este_mvskoke0tter89
    @Vne_este_mvskoke0tter89 9 месяцев назад +24

    I am so proud to be muscogee creek

    • @T1up4me12385
      @T1up4me12385 6 месяцев назад +1

      ❤me too

    • @mikeandrews1899
      @mikeandrews1899 5 месяцев назад +2

      Im Scots Irish , I am proud and respect your heritage. Even though our ancestors had a great and disturbing conflict

    • @BamaFanUSMC
      @BamaFanUSMC 22 дня назад

      You should be !! Very proud people, with a rich culture and beautiful way of life. I wish people these days would be more like Native American people when it comes to respect for mother nature as well as Honor.... I loved learning about Alabama Tribes and their history while growing up in Alabama.

  • @KaccvHvtke18
    @KaccvHvtke18 2 месяца назад +4

    As a Muscogee(Creek) Nation Citizen in Oklahoma I would love if the porch band would leave our ceremonial grounds and ancestors alone and in their final resting place instead of building a casino right on top of them

  • @actionjax8830
    @actionjax8830 6 месяцев назад +6

    My family! My great grandfather x6 was Chief Mad Dog aka Chief Efau Haujo! He was a speaker of tribal nations and warrior! I have only recently learned about him and learning more about my ancestors! Fascinating stuff!

  • @georgemoten702
    @georgemoten702 3 месяца назад +3

    Forgotten ? Naw attempted annihilation,the strength and resilience of our people seeths!!!! My much love and light blanket everyone 🎉 Father Absolute is very happy for us peace and i must lean the language lol

  • @shelbyramirez867
    @shelbyramirez867 7 месяцев назад +8

    Thank you for this wonderful, moving film! I had my daughters watch it for school as we are learning about the Indian Removal Act and studying the five "civilized" tribes. This was a perfect way to make the Creek history come alive for them. I was so inspired by Chief McGee and his leadership. What an impact someone can make in history! He sacrificed so much for his community and his name deserves to be known. Another take-away was how the Episcopal church was willing to volunteer a space for the kids to have school. I reminded my kids how we can make a difference by doing the right thing and serving those in need.

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  7 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you so much for sharing this with us. This was an exciting film to produce and we were honored that the tribe welcomed us in the tell their story.

  • @biggyp.studios6075
    @biggyp.studios6075 3 месяца назад +4

    I don’t like how that guy is wearing a headdress when tribes in the southeast didn’t even wear those! That was mainly plains tribes who wore that

  • @John-M.
    @John-M. 11 месяцев назад +9

    Amazing video. Shame it has so little views. People need to open their eyes and ears. We all bleed red. Calvin Mcgee was a legend.

  • @suite42014
    @suite42014 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for bringing me hope and inspiration. It makes my heart bigger and better. ❤❤

  • @Og-Smoove
    @Og-Smoove 3 месяца назад +2

    My Mother's (Harjo) family story relocation to Bearden Ok

  • @raythomas9176
    @raythomas9176 6 месяцев назад +4

    There are many valuable lessons to be learned from these people who have sacrificed their lives to help others! Bless you.

  • @laxmix1111
    @laxmix1111 22 дня назад +1

    Osiyo, My great great great grandmother was a creek Indian from Alabama and she’s not African American or white so I’m confused as to why this doesn’t depict the actual Indians who was here before the Europeans 🤷🏽‍♀️ peace and love

  • @rooteddwellings
    @rooteddwellings 6 месяцев назад +3

    I’m muscogee and a descendent of Itshaus Micco, subchief of Okfuskee town in Alabama, who moved his people to present day Eufaula. Where my great grandmother grew up and didn't speak English. Love my tribes of the Creek’s

    • @rooteddwellings
      @rooteddwellings 6 месяцев назад

      Sucks how successful they were at breaking our culture… sure we have some culture but not to long ago it was distasteful to be Native… it worked on my family and my girls family and lots of us became disenfranchised from tribal culture and we had to work at coming back to that culture and still work to be in modern society/ survival… I wish it was easier to engross myself back to my ansestors culture. Especially since my ancestors were prominent in the tribe Fred beaver was my great uncle and he took a different path same with my grandpas brother they are tribal I feel white… we gotta try to not let those stray

  • @nativeandindigenuscraftcre433
    @nativeandindigenuscraftcre433 Месяц назад +1

    Hi thanks for sharing but it good thing to know all indigenous nations and indigenous people thanks again and good luck 🤞

  • @JaySilverStacking
    @JaySilverStacking 9 месяцев назад +3

    My family has been apart of the creek tribe for years now I went and found out that we are related to chief Calvin McGhee my grandmother has been fighting to get me and my other siblings as a member of the tribe but they have not opened the Tribe roll since 2008 iv been able to see all of the casino they have opened they just bought a casino down around Fort Lauderdale Florida being the first time they are expanding outside of Alabama

  • @cheyackatustenuggee1836
    @cheyackatustenuggee1836 8 месяцев назад +3

    They're White Sticks

  • @ThomasDavis-eh9py
    @ThomasDavis-eh9py 4 месяца назад +2

    Poarch Band ARE NOT MUSCOGEE CREEK! REENTER OUR ANCESTORS PORCH BAND!

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 2 месяца назад

      The spirits I grew up with in the new Jersey Creek, buried and consumed and non compliant and erased?

  • @caterolle1335
    @caterolle1335 9 месяцев назад +7

    Poarch Creek = Redstick?

    • @TheHealthyStudent
      @TheHealthyStudent 9 месяцев назад +5

      That's a great question.... The Creeks were also known as upper creeks and lower creeks... The Prophet Josiah Francis was a Red Stick.....So was William Weatherford...... These were Creek leaders involved in the war of 1812 battle of New Orleans as well as the battle of Fort Mims.

    • @caterolle1335
      @caterolle1335 9 месяцев назад

      @@TheHealthyStudent Now that i think about it,
      These probably would be the creeks that gel the US. The upper creeks traded with the Indians and negros in Florida cattle and food. It would make more sense that the us probably let them say because they had nothing to do with fort mims. The fugustive red sticks, black creeks and others ran into Florida or were killed.
      That makes sense right?

    • @jesburgess1964
      @jesburgess1964 7 месяцев назад +2

      NO.

    • @caterolle1335
      @caterolle1335 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@jesburgess1964 So who are these Poarch Creeks? The Mix Creeks that fought with the US?

    • @caterolle1335
      @caterolle1335 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@TheHealthyStudent Invisible tribes calling themselves living the traditional way untouched when that’s what part of the reason the Creek civil war happened doesn’t really make sense to me.
      there were different creeks fighting on different sides. It’s weird to me that these “lost” or forgotten creeks came out of the 1800’s untouched. During that time you had the the Seminole wars going on, slave raiding, 1811-1821 wars. The us came down and did a sweep. It would only make sense that these were the mix creeks that fought with the us. Probably descendants of the mixed creeks and the soldiers that fought against the runaway Africans, Seminoles, fugitive creeks and fugitive Choctaws. I would hang my hat on that but to come out here acting like you didn’t have anything to do with nothing is crazy.
      Nevertheless that’s enlightening to know. I’m a descendant of a different group of Seminole and Creeks.

  • @TruckingToPlease
    @TruckingToPlease 10 месяцев назад +8

    Broke bread with the Poarch Band this Thanksgiving at their Pow Wow at Atmore. Wish that the Oklahoma Creek would have a showing in Alabama for these events.

  • @factsnotfeelings4901
    @factsnotfeelings4901 5 месяцев назад +2

    The Red Sticks and Tecumseh was wild

  • @Cattrez
    @Cattrez 2 месяца назад +1

    Keep wishing you pretenders

  • @mikeandrews1899
    @mikeandrews1899 5 месяцев назад +1

    In the 70's I went to school with a few Lumbee Indians by the name of Oxendine . Nice , hardworking people, but you didn't want to f with them ....they could , and would , fight like hell if you crossed them

  • @honeyebby
    @honeyebby 2 месяца назад +2

    I am of Black and Seminole/ Creek indian descent. Nice video, but I will not believe that everyone is accepted until ALL OF US is acknowledged. Us black indians have struggled for years to be accepted into the Creek nation, and it shouldnt be this hard.

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  2 месяца назад

      We're so sorry to hear this. Thank you for watching our film. Stories like these truly deserve several films to truly capture it all.

    • @geminimoon6295
      @geminimoon6295 Месяц назад

      ⬆️They’re so hateful they don’t care. They know they’re ancestors all came from Europe.
      FYI
      Stop calling yourself “Black”. I did. If you are Seminole/Creek be just that. When the Government reclassified our people to “black” that made them into a status. There is no such thing as black you are Indigenous, Autochthonous Seminole/Creek the original and no one can take that from you. Make them prove that you aren’t!⬆️

    • @xweezy91
      @xweezy91 Месяц назад

      The Tribe is originally Black. Whites called it the Creek a “Negro Tribe” along with the Seminole tribe but “Seminole” being the Portuguese term for “Runaways” the original tribe name is Yamaasee which is also known as a “negro” tribe. This is all documented and the reason we’re struggling is because these colonizers showed up reclassifying us as negro and taking away our tribes by what they called “De-Tribalizing” then in 1988 relabeling us as “African” just so we won’t receive our rights and lands back. That’s why we’re sitting here calling ourselves “Black” which has never meant anything other than a color. Like our Grand Parents said “we were here when they got here”. Just remember, America sits in the Equator which is the same reason why Africa is Black

    • @timwarcloud
      @timwarcloud 22 дня назад

      ​@xweezy91 that's revisionist BS! Your Sub-Saharans stop the vulturing.

    • @timwarcloud
      @timwarcloud 22 дня назад +1

      What proof do you have? Descended from anyone on the final rolls? If not, guess what?

  • @unyieldingcreek1
    @unyieldingcreek1 2 месяца назад +1

    Very interesting! Excellent video.

  • @Brittneyannthompson
    @Brittneyannthompson 7 месяцев назад +1

    This has touched the very depth of my soul. Thank God for you, Chief Calvin McGee and R I P.

  • @ThomasDavis-eh9py
    @ThomasDavis-eh9py 4 месяца назад +1

    Save our Hickory Grounds !

  • @tonysouthdakotah6774
    @tonysouthdakotah6774 5 месяцев назад +1

    Was pleasantly surprised to find this video in my Recommendations today.

  • @DixieNormus-kc8zt
    @DixieNormus-kc8zt Месяц назад

    Baton Rouge Red Sticks > White Sticks

  • @MillennialN64Dad
    @MillennialN64Dad 2 месяца назад

    We didn’t build those mounds

  • @crimsonbear9336
    @crimsonbear9336 4 месяца назад

    My Grandmother's side was named Flowers.... think part of PORCHE... SOMEONE let me know if I'm right.... please

  • @MAGaBAMA_84
    @MAGaBAMA_84 5 месяцев назад

    My family is all mixed up.. I have Cherokee, Choctaw, and Chickasaw. My great grandmother on my dads side (his mother) was full blooded Chickasaw of Tuscumbia Alabama, My Grandfather on my mother's side was half (25% Chickasaw) (25% Choctaw) of Corinth, Mississippi (50+% white) My grandfather Lowe dads side was around (50% Cherokee) of Cherokee NC, and (50% German) So I have quiet a bit just mixed up. Lol Nearly all of my cousins got into top colleges free thanks to our Native DNA... Clemson university @ S.C., and Perdue University @ Ind.

  • @marquesswhite3726
    @marquesswhite3726 Месяц назад

    It touches my heart about there story may GOD continue to bless them protect them iam proud of my Creek blood my culture

  • @CheefCoac-y5m
    @CheefCoac-y5m 5 дней назад

    😅

  • @bambam5130
    @bambam5130 5 месяцев назад

    6th great grandson of Chief William McIntosh and 7th of George Cousins

  • @L.F.Armistead
    @L.F.Armistead 6 месяцев назад

    I can't tell you how impressed I am with this story. It was a long time coming but right does win sometimes. Thanks to hard work and sacrifice. It should have been easier

  • @Boatjob1
    @Boatjob1 9 месяцев назад +3

    I just watched this twice. One of the most incredible works of art on this subject that I have ever experienced. It leaves my heart full of joy, sadness, and glee as I reminisce during this time of holiday celebrations. After many stacks of paperwork dating all the way back to 1847, I was finally Federally registered and officially recognized Poach Band, I believe in 1987. I was a decedent of the Wards in Escambia County Florida, given birth at Naval Air Station Pensacola in Ward "P" (which discontinued live births on the base in 1963). I do remember receiving a check, either the late 80's or early 90's in the amount of $267 in which I gave to my grandmother for support. For many years, I attempted to then be place on the Poach roll's but my timing could have been off and they were always closed. Every year that I am in the area I always try to make it back to Atmore for the Thanksgiving event. Sorry for rambling as I am overwhelmed with varying degrees of emotion, both joy and sadness. God bless each and every one of you that spent even one second in the progression of such an historic piece.

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  9 месяцев назад +2

      This wasn’t rambling. we always appreciate the honesty and vulnerability of folks who have been affected by these events. This was also a humbling story to tell that will forever be remembered by us. We desire to tell stories that have productive impact. This story was certainly that.

  • @Cattrez
    @Cattrez 2 месяца назад

    Iroquois confederacy are not push overs tuffing up

  • @SpeakinTruths
    @SpeakinTruths 2 месяца назад

    🧢

  • @akeemthegreat1700
    @akeemthegreat1700 4 месяца назад +2

    These are not the True indigenous people of this land

    • @NashBashy
      @NashBashy 4 месяца назад +3

      Hi there, yes, the native Indians are the indigenous people of the land. What do you mean?

    • @UncutSavage9858
      @UncutSavage9858 3 месяца назад

      ​@@NashBashy KANGS IS WHAT IT IMPLIES

    • @MrDarkElement
      @MrDarkElement 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@NashBashy
      They are Siberian imposters not the Copper Colored Autochthonous time immemorial occupants of Turtle Island. These people were groomed by the Jesuits, and Missionaries at The Carlisle Industrial School in Carlisle, PA and traded places with the true Amerindians. Trained in our customs yet never constructed anything except gambling casinos to this day. We built above and underground. Masters of agriculture and mechanics tricked by The U.S. Army and forced into concentration camps called reservations. Afterward, compulsory re-education under P.O.W. status the curriculum being about the "Out of Afrika", ridiculousness sold to our people as God-spell....163 years of amnesia. The Sleeping Giant has awoken and is totally pissed off!

    • @UncutSavage9858
      @UncutSavage9858 Месяц назад

      @@geminimoon6295 . BECAUSE YOUR RACISM

    • @geminimoon6295
      @geminimoon6295 Месяц назад

      @@MrDarkElementI don’t ever wanna see this again!! I’m so offended by this! 😢 My grandparents struggled down there in Alabama and Florida and they reclassified.

  • @UncutSavage9858
    @UncutSavage9858 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you relatives..Much Love

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 5 месяцев назад

      New Jersey Creeks?

    • @UncutSavage9858
      @UncutSavage9858 5 месяцев назад

      @@alexwelts2553 . Many are scattered..here and there..in Oklahoma most will be found because they were forced there

    • @UncutSavage9858
      @UncutSavage9858 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@alexwelts2553. Why would you think New Jersey ? Creek are from the southeast..not New Jersey

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 5 месяцев назад

      Because Caldwell is a town in New Jersey. And because I grew up soaking wet in a creek in New Jersey taking direction from spirits that had me making my rounds, what rocks to flip, what plants to do what with, making trails and shelters, chasing the suckers upstream in spring. And I wouldn't have known they were spirits if they weren't still with me today showing themselves in every possible way. That's as creek as it gets, so I thought you were another jersey creek maybe..

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 5 месяцев назад +1

      Also I wouldn't have known they were a named native tribe with a specific location if RUclips didn't tell me. I have my reasons to believe that they might be fibbing and taking more liberties to rewrite history yet again.

  • @OffroadVeterans-fk4pu
    @OffroadVeterans-fk4pu 9 месяцев назад +1

    My Grandmother was 1/8th Creek. I guess I'm 1/32nd (if my math is correct). I wish I was full blood. I want to honor where I came from. I wish I was more like them. How can I connect? Do they want me too?!

    • @glendawhite905
      @glendawhite905 9 месяцев назад

      My grandmother was full, muscogee creek that makes me 1/4 . nice to meet you .

    • @Realdeal984
      @Realdeal984 8 месяцев назад

      I’m trying to connect as well, I reached out and not too much information was given. Do anyone else have any information my family is connected to the Hollinger family.

    • @lukemccardle2379
      @lukemccardle2379 3 месяца назад

      I have Native American blood found out through DNA I did research my dad's side of family migrated into South and Central Georgia in the late 1700s I wonder could I have Muscogee Creek blood?

  • @frankhawkins7635
    @frankhawkins7635 11 месяцев назад

    How many are there now

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  11 месяцев назад +2

      The tribe has approximately 44,000 tribal members.

    • @djjohnson1612
      @djjohnson1612 10 месяцев назад +4

      The Creek Nation in Oklahoma has that many, but not Poarch Creek. We only have about 3,000.

    • @frankhawkins7635
      @frankhawkins7635 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks

    • @Boatjob1
      @Boatjob1 9 месяцев назад

      The roll's are always closed even though I am Federally registered since the late 80's.@@djjohnson1612

    • @hiltonpearce379
      @hiltonpearce379 8 месяцев назад

      My mother is muscogee HAnkinsinville Ga.​@@frankhawkins7635

  • @_rob_.
    @_rob_. 2 месяца назад

    Reparations done right.
    Success story.

  • @Cattrez
    @Cattrez 2 месяца назад

    LMAO SELLOUTS

    • @_rob_.
      @_rob_. 2 месяца назад

      Sellouts????
      Have you EVER worked as hard as the ones who put in their lives to obtain this success???
      No.
      You haven't.
      So keep that lie to yourself.
      And that music you post, that's messed your brain up.

  • @jeroldmcarthur5748
    @jeroldmcarthur5748 5 месяцев назад +6

    Where are the Dark skin Creeks at? Wow! My granny was one🤔

    • @UncutSavage9858
      @UncutSavage9858 5 месяцев назад +1

      They reside in your head still

    • @jeroldmcarthur5748
      @jeroldmcarthur5748 3 месяца назад +1

      @@UncutSavage9858 Lol. Otay mayonnaise

    • @georgemoten702
      @georgemoten702 3 месяца назад

      They're the original Indians,stop dismissing love as one that's the thought pattern that ruined it all at the start of it all.​@@UncutSavage9858

    • @MellyOmatic
      @MellyOmatic 2 месяца назад +1

      We are here. Fighting the the division that was created. #GrandmothersLand

    • @honeyebby
      @honeyebby 2 месяца назад

      We are still here! I am in Florida where my family has always been, and some instances in Georgia. We are still fighting to be recognized but i truly believe we wont have to fight for long because the real stories are starting to come out. All these Indians are white looking these days AND THEY WANT TO WHITE WASH OUT HISTORY....not the originals AT ALL

  • @Kche_Mkede_Mko
    @Kche_Mkede_Mko 2 месяца назад

    I know nothing of my Creek side. I know I’m Johnson/Berryhill/Darrisaw(sp) if anyone is kin out there, would love to connect. Im also Potawatomi and Choctaw. Megwech aho! 🔥💨🪶✌🏽🦅