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I don't even know who this guys is or what his channels even about, but he called me a friend, and that really got to my heart. This guy's got my subscription. Keep up the good work, friend.
Thanks for the honest review. Most guys would have found every possible way to nit pick every detail on it because it's not a name brand or one of their favorite saws
Is anyone else here wondering how they got here? I have homework to do. It is 3 in the morning. What has this come to? Why am I watching this? What chainsaw should I add to my collection?
@Aussie Shane while we are cutting down roughly 15 billion a year and replacing them with 5 billion, we currently have 4.03 trillion trees... in America, we plant something like 40% more than we harvest. So, ya know, America ain't the problem
Aussie Shane Its people doing the fake farmer thing who are destroying a lot.There are people who have to destry things to make them feel like a man.Industrial logging is the most destructive.Giant subdivisions going up are also to blame.They build them in what was once farmland,and then new pretend farmers buy up wooded areas,spend years clearing the woods(like the idiots they are) and are too old a feeble to farm it anyway.With that being said,I cut firewood every year.I cut mostly stuff that is already on the ground.I cut standing dead timber unless I see a squirrel nest,or eagle nest,then I leave it be.I own a tree service,but yet I hate to take out a tree if unneccesary.I usually try and talk the customers out of it if possible.
Thanks for showing a non-perfect drop. It happens and it's good for people to see that "stuff" happens. Good teaching opportunity to remind everyone to have an escape route and plan. Thumbs up!
Major Rage It's nothing to do with running down hill, it's if you run the same direction as the falling tree you might not get away in time. The wedges failed to push the tree in the direction he hoped. That can happen, the problem is he had started to back away the direction the tree fell. That can be called a race if you like!
Seems like the perfect saw for someone to keep at a cottage or lakehouse for the occasional spring cleanup, or as you said, to keep in the truck/camper for rural excursions and emergencies.
Chainsaw specialist Mechanic here. Unfortunately I have to say no, A lot of people do this, and the carburetor membranes harden up without a startup every month. To give you an indication of how bad this problem is, I get clients that need to get the carb membrane changed more than twice a day. I gotta say here, tho, in France, gasoline is VERY poor quality.
Bendraf..not a chansaw specialist mechanic here.. but you bring forward that Rey J is wrong and your arguement is because "the carburator membrane hardens up" ..you follow up that you have clients that need the carb membrane changed more then twice a day... The only thought that came to my mind is that if indeed these "cheap" chainsaws come with a bad membrane (as you claim as an arguement), wouldnt this problem then be resolved after the first time changing the membrane for a good one? Why would someone then have to change it multiple times a day and why is this related to a cheap chainsaw? Sounds to me like you are summing up a general issue with chainsaws that actually isnt related to the price. In my perspective that someone that requires a chainsaw usage a couple of times a year for here and there a tree to cut down on some brenches cutting, or even some log cutting for wood for the winter months.. I think such a cheap chainsaw isnt a bad option. Upkeep it well (drain petrol after usage and store cleaned and sprayed in WD) and it will serve you well for such light to medium usage. The advantage is as well the price.. for a 100USD.. you could go through like 6 of them to come to a price of an expensive one, not the most effective usage of resources though.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong here. I meant I do that operation at least twice per day, obviously not on the same chainsaws. The thing is, the membrane hardens up because the fuel in the carburetor rots, due to long storage without running the fuel into the saw. The thing is: I do this operation quite often for cheap saws and it takes a very long time, because of bad engineering and bad carburetor placement, and space management, etc... Also, there are many brands of carburetor on the market, at different price points. Cheap saw have usually chinese carbs, that tend to have poorly drilled holes and get usually clogged. We often recomend straight up changing the whole carburetor, sometimes its cheaper that taking the time to clean it and changing the membranes. I also do that operation on cheap Stihl saw, but the opperation is easy and fast, usually takes less than 5 min to get from a ready to work saw, from inside the carburetor. I rarely do this on pro stihl saws but obviously if you had a cottage/lake house, why the heck would you spend more the 200 dollars for a saw. My point is, get a cheap stihl saw, it's a bit more expensive, yes, but you'll have less often carb problems, and your mechanic will thank you lol It's all about perspectives really, but I can see why people would just go on amazon and buy those. I really consider making videos to talk about that topic.
Bendra, thank you for your input its solid and with good advice. My first chainsaw was a medium range stihl but secondhand and renovated. lasted a bit but was unrealiable. I guess going for renovated is not a good option or i was just unlucky to buy a lemon.
This is why you store a carb rebuild kit and necessary tools along with it. And store it emptied of fuel. A spare fuel line(s) and primer bulb (if so equipped) is also a good idea.
Dear Cody, I've been with you guys since felling a tree with a shotgun ;) Over that time, the channel has evolved. I still enjoy every video as much as the last and can't wait for the next. But I will say I'm missing the humble homesteading videos. Perhaps it's a sign of the family work paying off and things have gotten established. The days of something having to be fixed or pruned or built everyday and put on video are in the past maybe. But the simple things like fixing a ram pump really had an endearing quality about them. I hope this comment has a little bit of nostalgic heart warming to you guys. Looking forward to the next video!
true, but if it aint broke don,t fix it, so yeah as its done and done right he doesn,t have to do those jobs often. and last weeks he was on firewatch so yeah not the time to start big projects. im pretty sure we will see some nice jobs in the near future.;-)
I run saws like this. Cheap, off brand, low to medium power. I also run low end husqvarna...a 240...which cost three times my cheap import saw. The cheap import saw is more reliable than the low end huskies. Not more reliable though, than high end ones, or any stihl. They are up to a fifth of the price of high end branded saws, and, for their useable lifetime, will do the work. The pluses. Cheap. Usable. Comparable safety features. Cheap spare parts. And they do the work I need to...I run a farm, and heat my home with firewood, cutting nothing over 2 and a half foot in diameter. You can buy 4, 5 or even 6 of the, for the price of a stihl or husqvarna. Negatives. You will go through spares. Tension adjusters, clutch springs, filters and sprockets will wear out quickly. They are reliable for the price, but I always have a backup saw. They are hard starting in cold weather, and hard starting generally. Your dealer may not have spares, and may not stand over the saw because of that. For me, it came down to economics. I can run a cheap 52cc saw at. Fifth of the price ofa Stihl. It will last me 5 years at least. I would not expect a stihl to last 25. If economics weren't a driver, I'd run stihl, no question. But off brNd saws have cut 4 cords a year of hard and softwood each year for the last 4 on my farm. For a fraction of the price. And when I estimate the costs over a ten year period, it's still cheaper to run off brand. Thanks for the review wrangler star.
If you don't expect a Stihl to last 25 years then you're just not looking after it. I have a Stihl dealership and frequently get 20,30 and even 40year old Stihl and husky saws in for service, or at least have the owners picking up parts to service them themselves. My personal saw is a 268xp thats 36yo and runs like a champ. My dad has a 38yo 024 super that cut close to 30years of firewood 6-8 cord/year before he just couldn't handle the work anymore. Saws still strong as hell. Another thing to consider is that quality saws, especially Stihl, have the parts to keep the saw running. If you can commit to maintaining it, it will last a very long time.
I don't. Nor does my stihl dealer. Or my chainsaw contractor. I live on bog, where it doesn't stop raining. Ever. It is always humid. And you are likely to spend half your time knee deep in swamp when you cut. My farm is technically dry land for less than half the year. Same with everywhere here. I think wranglerstar retired one of His stihls after 15 years too in a recent video. My dealer suggests about 15 years before a stihl saw would be retired. If you look after it. You don't see many old saws in use here. And no vintage. I asked him. 15 years. I respect stihl. I think their build quality and ethic is excellent. I would love to run two. I would be faster, more efficient, less frustrated, and happier. But even my dealer won't suggest anywhere near 25 years as a working life. Your a stihl dealer. I respect that. I respect your product. And if I had the money it is all I would run. I don't. So I run clones.
your 'it doesn't stop raining..on a bog' comment lends credence to my belief that iowa & midwestern agriculture is soley responsible for its own 500yr flooding events, i.e. microclimates. Bog climates shouldn't otherwise rain everyday unless the precipitation cyles were more prevalent at higher turnover velocity. These 15ft tall stalks hold a lot more moisture than former plains. I was in w.wisconsin bog country recently, & it was mostly normal dry weather, but i don't doubt you.
My next saw will probably be timber pro, which is available in both the US and in Europe, and people seem to like them. I had been using a HY5200, which is sold under lots of brand names...the one I have currently is actually completely unbranded. It's a 52cc saw with a 20 inch bar. In 4 years, I've replaced a clutch Spring, a recoil, the air filter, the whole clutch cover and brake bar piece...and that's about it. Parts are cheap. I also go through spark plugs faster, and have to service it thoroughly every year, or it's impossible t start. Many of the 52cc clone saws seem to be the same engine and internal a, but with different cases and features. It's been more reliable than my Husqvarna 240e, with more power, cheaper parts, and more uptime. But the reliability is not compared when compared with, say, a stihl. As I said, I think I'll try my luck with a timperpro 62cc saw next. There's lots of channels on RUclips of people running clone saws long term if you have a look, you'll get some good insights and advice about the pros, cons, and the different clones available. If you are looking to invest n one, I'd go find some of those channels, and look at the series of videos that look at the saw over time. Lots of Chinese saws work great for the first month, and then don't. The long term test guys will have a better perspective, and will save you money and heartbreak. I think kimballcody has some long term saws and love2boat92 has lots of long term reviews. Best of luck.
I love how people who've never worked in the woods for a day in their life are leaving judgemental comments about his techniques. What do you want, OSHA certified videos? He still has all five fingers on both hands! Keep it up Wranglerstar
Two separate stems with "included bark" should not be felled together with a conventional notch and back cut. That can be one of the most dangerous jobs to encounter with standing trees. Each stem needs to be treated as a separate tree and felled accordingly. Those stems could have failed at anytime while making the notch or back cut, killing the operator. The visible seam between the two stems is a dead giveaway upon approach. The visible bark on each interior side of the stems once they are laid down confirms the presence of included bark.
Tristan maximum 1/3, around 1/5 to 1/4 works fine in most cases, and notch should be as small as possible always when there is reason to expect rotten wood inside the stem.
Finally after reading all the comments OMG ! SOMEONE THATS SEE'S IT , wow to many people using saws with out training , freaks me out the stumps people leave , this isn't even a name for there cut 😂🤣😂🤣
Not being there I could be wrong but I thought I saw, what looked like a primer on that machine. IF it is, the instructions should say something about pushing the primer several times BEFORE trying to start.
trongod2000 it's a rubber plug. Some models that don't have the rubber primer bulb, will have a rubber plug to simply fill the hole where the primer would have gone. It looks like a Poulan or craftsman knock off.
With these chinese saws there is a way to start them that most people don't understand. They don't have a priming bulb and auto prime, you don't need the throttle. Open the choke and pull a couple of times 5-6 (max) whether it starts or not at this point, put the choke back in then start it, will usually come on in one pull. If the saw comes on and turns off with the choke out this the time to close the choke. I've had massive issues with these till I learnt to use them, now I've never had one not start within 3-4 pulls. If you keep pulling with the choke out you will flood it, at this point just leave it over night it will usually sort itself or you can probably open the spark plug and tip the fuel out. Hope it helps some people out there.
Been using these similar saws for 4 years in Aussie here they are branded bauma ag. Only they come with oregon bar and chain. First thing I did with the one I use regularly was strip it and exhaust port it. Power increase was supervising. Internally very nice needle roller bearing construction. They do have prob with poor filtration and also material actually getting past filter. Solved simply by leaving off external cover off air box. This particular saw I pulled from box stripped and ported then mounted to chainsaw mill fitters with skip tooth tungsten chain and then ran for over two hours at full throttle. Has never missed a beat in 4 years.
My fathers old 70's Stihl didnt have a lock. We use to put our foot in the guard to hold the trigger and start it while it was on the ground. We still have the Stihl chainsaw too.
My favorite saws are my old 70's homelite xl 12's. No chain brake, manual oiler - I love it. New saws are a bit nicer on my back due to weight, but they don't have that solid feel with all the damper springs.
volvo09 the old homelites are great I picked up a vi super 2 from a field and have been using it for years it always starts on the first or second pull something that the junk newer Chinese/Mexican homlites cant do
I purchased a Chinese saw for fun...a different brand however..."Blue Max." Came w/ both a 20" and 14" bar and two chains for roughly $130. It functions surprisingly well and still starts on the first pull after two seasons of use. The engine case also looks exactly like yours. I imagine that they're all made by one manufacturer. I was, and remain pleasantly suprised !
I was watching the video because I have to get a larger back up saw looking for something with a 20 inch bar like that but when ya gotta fight to get em running the first time that is a bad omen especially as rough as it gets getting something running in the cold weather. I hate taking trees down when its hot out just makes the job harder not to mention the tree is heavy with leaves in the summer. In the winter the job is only half the mess and work than cleaning up leaves all over the place. I don't wanna have a saw that I have to fight to get it going.
bought a Dolmar 120si for £120 on the free ads. 3.6 kw is exactly double the power from this sewing machine and it was made in the 80's just keeps on cutting. Beauty is in the ear of the beholder too, check out that growl..
Agreed, most of my tools are yard/estate sales. However, while the pro is that you pay pennies on the dollar, there are cons. Cons: you have to get there early early. Selection is extremely varied, you can go many times and not find what you are really looking for. Some things I have never seen so far, like a rotary hammerdrill, I've only seen a bandsaw once (there were 2 of them, lil guys, but still, i was on bike, so i picked up 70 pounds in my bag anyway...that was one of the better scores), things in high demand can be not as cheap as hoped, or again, you gotta be early. I saw a chainsaw once (also log splitter at same locale), and it was bein bought while i snagged other stuff (stanley planes, coleman lantern with metal case and the good radioactive wicks, various pokey bits and bearing stuff). Often estate sales are run by an agency, which is a whole other animal.... So essentially, do the yard sale thing as a hobby, and accept that it will take quite a bit of time (years likely) to be able to round out a shop. After doing it for awhile, you will get an idea as to what you need to buy new. But you cutta ma grass, i come for you! lol
I bought this same saw, it doesn't need a throttle lock. It has a primer pump on the handle. Pump 5-6 times, starts first pull every time. Didn't expect a good saw when I purchased it, but it's actually decent. Not quite a Stihl, but as good as say a Homelite or something comparable for less money.
I'm a Stihl fan I'm just asking with u owning that chain saw many trees u drop an how many hrs you use it to the test and what is the warranty I'm no keyboard Warrior I'm just asking you because money versus quality it's very important to me I'm still upset about my snap-on impact is no better than a Harbor Freight one and Harbor Freight is 1/3 of the cost
@@bradwells8643 it's all in the maintenance cheap saws are just as reliable just not as durable. If you're a homeowner or handy man/landscaper and you take care of it it'll do fine, but if it's gonna be beat like a redheaded step child, bounced around in a bed of a truck everyday with just fuel and chains thrown at it just get a Stihl
I started working in the forest when I was 12. I have used chainsaw ever since (stihl, jonsered and husqvarna). I usually keep close to the tree until I feel certain of where it's on its way. It simple to circle it close to the stump , way harder when you're not close to it.
I agree. I had a tree chase me around in a circle in a forest . I thought i was done for !! It can happen so quick that the wife can be a widow as easy as a cops wife
I also like their covers. Steve-n-seagulls is a band from Finland, and I am Finn. I saw them playing in kind of festival and I can tell that THEY ARE AWESOME LIVE BAND!
I think its something like 755watts/hp. Looks like a Husqvarna knockoff. Check the choke and see if it isn't setting the throttle to a start position when you pull it out. Thats how a Husky 55 carb works. The oiler adjustment is even in the same spot as a husky.
I have an 1,800 Watt electric scooter that is powered by a 36 Volt battery pack. I did the math and indeed, 2.4 HP is correct. That kind of power is not to be messed with as I crashed doing about 40 MPH. Ouch..
Hey Wrangerstar, Id just like to say that after a few weeks of watching your videos I've learned a lot and I'll continue to watch! I like how you throughly examine and run down how to use tools. Its also great that your stand up for yourself against all the keyboard warriors/haters on the internet! Keep being you :)
I bought a similar chainsaw from Amazon here in UK, for £85 (~$115) had a spare chain & looks very similar to the one you have there, but it was a "Parker" make. And so far it has been pretty good. I moved into a new property and needed to remove quite a lot of old trees and the chainsaw cleared them all with no problem. Not a professional job be any stretch of the imagination, but for the occasional use it really is a fair saw & I think if I maintain it well it will do me for a few years to come.
I understand to you the idea of owning a chainsaw (or gun) seems silly. I guess you live in a city. Do you understand how someone like this guy (living in extremely remote Oregon) could want to own both a chainsaw and firearm? That chainsaw keeps his house warm. And calling for the cops could be a 30 minute affair.
The casing and many parts look almost identical to my Victa saw. It's no Husky or Stihl, but for the money (I think I paid about $250 AUD), it does the job. Almost all our trees are hardwood, not softwood (mainly eucalypt), and it goes alright. The starting procedure is a bit finicky, but it usually starts ok if I do it as per the manual - ignition switch to on, choke out, press the primer 6 times, give it about 4 pulls, then put the choke in and pull again. It doesn't need to have the throttle held open, it starts and runs without touching it. I find that the trick is keeping the chain sharp all the time, because it just doesn't have the grunt of a Husky or Stihl.
Thanks for doing this Cody. I appreciate your generosity of knowledge. There are those of us who watch your experiences and use them as motivation and guidance for our projects.
I bought this chainsaw and used it to replace my old 16"Stilh. 4 years later it is going strong. Knocked down and processed many pine and Macrocarpa trees with it. It is not without flaws but the most important were fixable. Replaced the chain and the bucking spikes. The trigger mechanism is so flimsy that it often falls apart. Easily restored. The clutch is terrible. But yeah the bang for your buck is immense so i recommend it.
The design looks a lot like my 30-year old Husqvarna Rancher saw, but with cheaper plastic parts. I used to start it on the ground with my right foot in the handle hole, keeping the throttle open :-)
I've been cutting red oak with the 20 inch model (62 cc) for about a month now - into my second chain - using 50 to 1 mixture and semi-synthetic motor oil for the bar. Mine starts on the first pull every time once hot, two or three pulls when cold - you may need to fiddle with your carb adj to get yours just right out of the box. It doesn't like being turned on the side when low on fuel. All in all a good budget saw.
Your comment made me think of the last time that I "fiddled" with a 2 stroke carb. I fouled it up so bad that I ended up throwing the weed eater away😂😂😂
@@quietobserver4636 Still using it. starts most days first or second pull. I think the key is top brand oil and fuel. also, I store it on the side - filler caps facing up - don't ask me why, but it seems to help.
@@foreversunrise8749 what brand is it? I need to get a cheap saw to cut pine knots with. I run a 20" bar on both of my sthil saws. Those chains are $37 now! I just can't make myself cut kindling with them.
Hey wranglestar!! Being an arborist for the last 15 years I've learned that the tide bottles with the little push button spiggot on the side works great for bar oil. just hold it over top and push the button. You're welcome :)
I think it will last. My grandfather had a crappy "poulan PRO" saw that he got about 20 cords of white poplar out of before he passed. I now run the hell out of that saw when I do use it. It stars well, and runs well even past -20 Celsius. Canadian tire routinely has it on sale for $180 (42cc, 18 inch bar, case, extra chain and some oil)
If he had to contact another professional tree felller to cut the trees down, it would have cost a lot more than 100.00 to drop them and clean them up. My mother-in-law had a tree drop from the country property beside her place onto her property. She had to have it removed even though it originated on county property. It cost her 500.00 to have it cleaned up and removed. The county should have taken care of it for her considering what she payed for property taxes and all. Bunch of county leeches. Not being critical of the fellers that removed the tree, they showed up within a day and had it off her property the same day they arrived so bravo to them.
Two years ago, I bought the cheapest chainsaw here, in Romania, was 350 LEI (80 $) and I worked a lot with it, I cut a lot of trees, firewood, and today this chainsaw is still runing. I made from firewood which I cut with that chainsaw 100 times of his value.
The thing you have to consider with cheap tools is that you can find ones that work well and have the power needed for the job, but if they're made with cheap parts they're going to wear out faster. So I guess you have to decide if you buy something cheap that works *now* or something expensive that works *relatively* inevitably.
The throttle lock is probably part of the choke. On our Jonsered saw you squeeze and hold the throttle then pull out the choke. That will keep the throttle open.
Yea I was gonna say this. Mine comes on just pulling the choke out and when you push choke back in throttle is still locked until you burp the throttle
I used to log professionally and we always used lucas oil stabilizer as bar oil. Its much more "stringy" than bar oil and it lasts waaaay longer than a typical tank of bar oil. Just my 2 cents
@RoMMeL1337ak47 I have been using "used" cooking oil since I watched a pro logger. An old timer who had spent his life logging and still did it with his two sons. I have been using cooking oil for more than ten years and haven't replaced my bar in that time.
That cheap saw has TWO nuts to hold the bar! I bought a much more expensive saw that only had one and you could not keep the bar/chain tight! I like it!!
No, it was a McCulloch. My experience has been that if a chainsaw manufacturer wants to save money on the build they go to one nut not two. They put one compression ring on the piston, not two. Stihl has two nuts for all their pro line accept for the super light weight pro saws. Their entry level saws are now showing up with only one nut. Others have not had any problems with one nut. All I can say from personal experience is the McCulloch saw I had was terrible. Very hard to start and after you ran it the bar would loosen so you had to shut it off to tighten everything only to have another very hard start. The saw Cody reviewed has two nuts, ran well and was super cheap. On top of that you can purchase a warranty for around $13 so you cannot lose. You can run through 3 or 4 of these saws and still be under the cost of a Stihl. I only use Stihl because they work and work and work. One of my saws is almost 30 years old and I purchased it new.
I realize this was 5 years ago, but now this saw is $399.99 on Amazon. The saw for around $100.00 on Amazon now is COOCHEER Gas Chainsaw 20-Inch, 62CC 2-Cycle Gas Powered Chainsaws, 3.5 HP Handheld Cordless Chain Saw with 2 Chains and Carrying Bag. Have you tested this yet Mr. W? Thanks for the excellent review.
DarthDew87 Me too. Would a cordless be best for a home owner? And would it work for someone that does a lot of cutting? Those are the questions I would like answered. There is a real chance they could eclipse gas saws "someday" since there would be no vibration and fewer parts to break. I just want to know how the current line up of electric cordless saws stacks up.
I have no doubt it'll work when I buy it, but will it start when I need it again, after sitting on my shelf for ten months? Or will it last for a landscaper who needs it every other day?
You're a forestry guy Cody, You should know how to properly start a saw, Cheap off brand or not it makes no difference. I work at a Stihl dealer and I'm not even allowed to show the forestry approved method, The method you used was even more dangerous. You set an example with your videos Cody and that was a bad one. The Xtream Powersaw is similar to the old Stihls that had no trigger lock, It was a safety feature making sure that you held the saw down with your foot while also holding the trigger open a bit when starting.
A smaller notch will do you a lot of good on the tree. Gives you more leverage to direct it with your wedges, and will help keep it from falling backwards
What happened was bark inclusion from the tree being co-dominant stem structure. It makes pretty much two separate trees. You should have felled each side separately
You learn something new every day, despite this video being 5 years old. My little "robot" pool vacuum is "made" by this same brand. Who would've thought you'd find a company making frigging pool vacuums and chain saws.
It looks remarkably like the Remington Outlaw RM4620 I bought from Home Depot for $189. Although, the Remington has an Oregon bar and chain. I use it to cut down maples and oaks for firewood. I have never had a problem in 2 years of ownership. Hoping to buy a Stihl or Husqvarna if this one ever dies.
Keep the air fuel and oil clean and flowing, a good sharp chain,, may last you a life time, thanks I may look at one of those as a back up, i use a sthil its ok, but has some cheap parts on it as well handle broke first week i used it back in 2018,never replaced, still ok for light use
Ratdog 305 I found a Husqvarna special chain saw at the dump and they said it didn't run... they didn't have the spark plug connector dooie on the top pressed on and after adding gas it fired right up
it is actually very easy to start, when the engine is cold, pull the shock, then pull the starter cord until it gives a start signal, press the shock and then pull the string again until it starts, but first of all the button to the left of the shock goes up !!
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I bought a cheap Chinese 20" chainsaw 2 years ago and it is still going. It runs like a V8 and has heaps of power. Generally the chain supplied is cheap so invest in a good chain and keep the saw clean and you have no problem. Was going to buy a Husky when it dies but I can't see it giving up any time soon. Only $160AU.
Hey cody, I'm an arborist. And yes, rot is what it was. We call them co-dominate. And the best way is to fell them individually if possible. I suspected that was going to happen when I seen that it was co-dominate and their lean.
I love all the lumberjackasses commenting on technique. The folks who buy this saw will be just as inexperienced, and using it for around the yard, not felling redwoods.
not use the footpad to start the saw. does a plunge cut(which sometimes have to) but should never do as it can kick very easy, he also cut well above his shoulder height, which should always be avoided, and also should always have saw chaps on, yes they are expensive, but isnt your legs worth the couple hundred bucks
He does the plunge cut perfectly, it only kicks if you do it wrong. (start the cut with the bottom of the tip so it doesn't bounce) It's an important and useful technique and it's good to show it off in testing video. Starting the saw without the foot pad is fine if you know how to do it, he even has the chain break on. (sometimes you can't put the saw on the ground to start it) Only thing he does badly is trying to tip the tree like that.
Thank you for the review. I'm in need of an inexpensive saw. I don't have use for one very often. At the hunt club or around the house on occasion is all I need. Can't really justify a top shelf saw. Thank you again for the review.
Did you notice the pic on Amazon showing the chain installed backward? Maybe that's why they are selling them so cheap? They think they won't cut and marked them down. LOL
yeah it dont work so well haha, i bought a used saw for 30$ dident check it out befor the test run just fueled and went at a piece of wood... quickly figured out something was wrong as it wouldent cut butter if it needed too. killed the ignition and on a quick glance over noticed the chain was backwards. maybe thats why he sold me a nearly new looking , running McCulloch , 61cc with 22 inch bar for 30 $?
“Better be careful not to put the chain on backwards” then at 4 min 52 chain on backwards. Don’t worry mate we’ve all done it at some point. Just maybe not on video. 😉
There may be a lot of things you can pick on Cody for but there is not very many people here that have his chainsaw experience! For those new subscribers and viewers he is not only certified by the forest service but he routinely cuts trees for his job in Wildland Fire. He KNOWS what he is doing!
Right, my friend bough this saw. Told me it was great. After his third time using it it wouldn't start. I checked the compression. 75psi... So basically the rings/bore/top end was done (and yes he mixed the gas correctly). So you really cant form a review on one use. These companies only design it to last one or two trips. because by then the reviews are out and they are good. The engine is total junk.
YeCannyDaeThat. I am not gonna argue your statement. But I will say that most of the name-brand saw parts are made in China. And none of those are known to fail after one or two uses. Many of these use the same piston and rings, etc. I would venture to say that this on does too. Why reinvent the wheel? They just use off the shelf parts. I bought a piston ring for my Craftsman saw. It had a Husky label on the package. Made in China. Either your buddy got a bad one, or he did something wrong. Both can happen. I bet the majority of these saws are just fine.
Bryan Wilson I won a bet on that very thing. I told a friend my Craftsman was basically a Husky and called BS. Popped the lid off and it said Husky. It's a decent cheap saw. Change the bar and chain to a, you guessed it, Husky and you're good to go.
Startmakingsense Please Yep. I have a Jonsered (That says Husqvarna on the data plate) and a Craftsman. The plastic is slightly different, but these saws are made up of the same parts. I think a guy has to spend some real money to get an actual made in Sweden Husky. I want a really old Husky or Stihl with the metal body. I am tired of plastic. The Craftsman was lent out and a buddy over tightened the bar nuts and broke the chassis. Seriously. But a new part was cheap. It is back going again.
i know you said mix correctly but never use 50:1 not enough oil ever on anything ever 32;1 minimum i build 2 strokes example 1960`s blue xl homelite 30 weight oil16:1 gas mix listed on the side of the saw thats when they wanted it to last and there wasn't an epa guy at the factory now every thing machined loose for the lean oil that china saw may been tightly machined needing 24:1 oil gas setting it just part of life we need to know i guess God bless Jesus is K
YeCannyDaeThat I know who your buddy is, he's a complete moron snd ran the saw with straight gas in it. No oil mix. Tell him to add some oil next time.
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Good foot work getting out of the way.
now jack has a saw
Wranglerstar now you can give it to Jack
I don't even know who this guys is or what his channels even about, but he called me a friend, and that really got to my heart. This guy's got my subscription. Keep up the good work, friend.
🙁wow man that was a really beautiful comment😭
It sounds like you could use a friend, so I guess that means we have something in common... Friend ;)
😂😂😂😂 I'm sorry 😂😂😂😂
thats got to be the most pathetic thing ive read in a long time.
Billy Darley calm down edge lord
"Everyone should have a chainsaw around"
Me sitting in my downtown Chicago apartment...
Zombie apocalypse - chainsaws have infinite ammo ;)
You never know.
How Will you cut barcounter without it if someone insault you?
@@maticzajc401 lol wasnt that what the guy trying to start them up in Finland did?
Don't know about that, but in my country some People solving problems that way
Not Aluminum or Magnesium...Chinesium
the Chinese will build what the gringos are willing to pay for.
Prolific Invention Cheapanese
Punny..
Probably some Shitanium in there too
@@highschool4624 what the gringos will buy.... I buy nothing but Americano tools
Thanks for the honest review. Most guys would have found every possible way to nit pick every detail on it because it's not a name brand or one of their favorite saws
Usually folk who haven't a clue also
LoL... so true.
Is anyone else here wondering how they got here? I have homework to do. It is 3 in the morning. What has this come to? Why am I watching this? What chainsaw should I add to my collection?
@Aussie Shane It'sthe industrial scale logging that makes the difference, not cutting down the odd tree now and then.
Yeah... same here. I was looking for a video on removing wall texture... now im here...
@Aussie Shane while we are cutting down roughly 15 billion a year and replacing them with 5 billion, we currently have 4.03 trillion trees... in America, we plant something like 40% more than we harvest. So, ya know, America ain't the problem
Aussie Shane Its people doing the fake farmer thing who are destroying a lot.There are people who have to destry things to make them feel like a man.Industrial logging is the most destructive.Giant subdivisions going up are also to blame.They build them in what was once farmland,and then new pretend farmers buy up wooded areas,spend years clearing the woods(like the idiots they are) and are too old a feeble to farm it anyway.With that being said,I cut firewood every year.I cut mostly stuff that is already on the ground.I cut standing dead timber unless I see a squirrel nest,or eagle nest,then I leave it be.I own a tree service,but yet I hate to take out a tree if unneccesary.I usually try and talk the customers out of it if possible.
Fell asleep while doing homework and watching this as a "I need a brake"
Thanks for showing a non-perfect drop. It happens and it's good for people to see that "stuff" happens. Good teaching opportunity to remind everyone to have an escape route and plan. Thumbs up!
WheeliePete Yeah tree feel the direction it was leaning and he backed out the same way. Oh it can go so wrong so fast!
Should u never run down hill? (I dunno im a city kid in Australia)
WheeliePete
That's why you never park you picup close to where you are working.
Major Rage It's nothing to do with running down hill, it's if you run the same direction as the falling tree you might not get away in time. The wedges failed to push the tree in the direction he hoped. That can happen, the problem is he had started to back away the direction the tree fell. That can be called a race if you like!
shite happens vs. does not just happen
'Causality's Casualty'
Me sitting on the toilet: “what should I watch on RUclips today?”
**TESTING THE CHEAPEST CHAINSAW ON AMAZON**
Me: okay, ig.
Lol the same :D
Oh, THAT kind of a log??
@@timotejbris9499 ytp: **exit**
flex tape: *stonks*
I think we just shared a moment
Sameobretononroinio
It's lubricated with the tears of the sweatshop kids who built it
Baconator James I love you
@@spider_pig7588 haha, I'm told that comes with a bit of guilt
Just like Stihl's then, with their Chinese carbs, etc. ;)
Baconator James how's that smart phone/computer/tablet you're on?
I wasn’t ready for that
Seems like the perfect saw for someone to keep at a cottage or lakehouse for the occasional spring cleanup, or as you said, to keep in the truck/camper for rural excursions and emergencies.
Chainsaw specialist Mechanic here. Unfortunately I have to say no, A lot of people do this, and the carburetor membranes harden up without a startup every month.
To give you an indication of how bad this problem is, I get clients that need to get the carb membrane changed more than twice a day.
I gotta say here, tho, in France, gasoline is VERY poor quality.
Bendraf..not a chansaw specialist mechanic here.. but you bring forward that Rey J is wrong and your arguement is because "the carburator membrane hardens up" ..you follow up that you have clients that need the carb membrane changed more then twice a day... The only thought that came to my mind is that if indeed these "cheap" chainsaws come with a bad membrane (as you claim as an arguement), wouldnt this problem then be resolved after the first time changing the membrane for a good one? Why would someone then have to change it multiple times a day and why is this related to a cheap chainsaw? Sounds to me like you are summing up a general issue with chainsaws that actually isnt related to the price. In my perspective that someone that requires a chainsaw usage a couple of times a year for here and there a tree to cut down on some brenches cutting, or even some log cutting for wood for the winter months.. I think such a cheap chainsaw isnt a bad option. Upkeep it well (drain petrol after usage and store cleaned and sprayed in WD) and it will serve you well for such light to medium usage. The advantage is as well the price.. for a 100USD.. you could go through like 6 of them to come to a price of an expensive one, not the most effective usage of resources though.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong here. I meant I do that operation at least twice per day, obviously not on the same chainsaws. The thing is, the membrane hardens up because the fuel in the carburetor rots, due to long storage without running the fuel into the saw.
The thing is: I do this operation quite often for cheap saws and it takes a very long time, because of bad engineering and bad carburetor placement, and space management, etc...
Also, there are many brands of carburetor on the market, at different price points. Cheap saw have usually chinese carbs, that tend to have poorly drilled holes and get usually clogged.
We often recomend straight up changing the whole carburetor, sometimes its cheaper that taking the time to clean it and changing the membranes.
I also do that operation on cheap Stihl saw, but the opperation is easy and fast, usually takes less than 5 min to get from a ready to work saw, from inside the carburetor.
I rarely do this on pro stihl saws but obviously if you had a cottage/lake house, why the heck would you spend more the 200 dollars for a saw.
My point is, get a cheap stihl saw, it's a bit more expensive, yes, but you'll have less often carb problems, and your mechanic will thank you lol
It's all about perspectives really, but I can see why people would just go on amazon and buy those.
I really consider making videos to talk about that topic.
Bendra, thank you for your input its solid and with good advice. My first chainsaw was a medium range stihl but secondhand and renovated. lasted a bit but was unrealiable. I guess going for renovated is not a good option or i was just unlucky to buy a lemon.
This is why you store a carb rebuild kit and necessary tools along with it. And store it emptied of fuel. A spare fuel line(s) and primer bulb (if so equipped) is also a good idea.
Dear Cody, I've been with you guys since felling a tree with a shotgun ;) Over that time, the channel has evolved. I still enjoy every video as much as the last and can't wait for the next. But I will say I'm missing the humble homesteading videos. Perhaps it's a sign of the family work paying off and things have gotten established. The days of something having to be fixed or pruned or built everyday and put on video are in the past maybe. But the simple things like fixing a ram pump really had an endearing quality about them. I hope this comment has a little bit of nostalgic heart warming to you guys. Looking forward to the next video!
true, but if it aint broke don,t fix it, so yeah as its done and done right he doesn,t have to do those jobs often.
and last weeks he was on firewatch so yeah not the time to start big projects.
im pretty sure we will see some nice jobs in the near future.;-)
I run saws like this. Cheap, off brand, low to medium power. I also run low end husqvarna...a 240...which cost three times my cheap import saw. The cheap import saw is more reliable than the low end huskies. Not more reliable though, than high end ones, or any stihl.
They are up to a fifth of the price of high end branded saws, and, for their useable lifetime, will do the work.
The pluses. Cheap. Usable. Comparable safety features. Cheap spare parts. And they do the work I need to...I run a farm, and heat my home with firewood, cutting nothing over 2 and a half foot in diameter. You can buy 4, 5 or even 6 of the, for the price of a stihl or husqvarna.
Negatives. You will go through spares. Tension adjusters, clutch springs, filters and sprockets will wear out quickly. They are reliable for the price, but I always have a backup saw. They are hard starting in cold weather, and hard starting generally. Your dealer may not have spares, and may not stand over the saw because of that.
For me, it came down to economics. I can run a cheap 52cc saw at. Fifth of the price ofa Stihl. It will last me 5 years at least. I would not expect a stihl to last 25.
If economics weren't a driver, I'd run stihl, no question. But off brNd saws have cut 4 cords a year of hard and softwood each year for the last 4 on my farm. For a fraction of the price. And when I estimate the costs over a ten year period, it's still cheaper to run off brand.
Thanks for the review wrangler star.
If you don't expect a Stihl to last 25 years then you're just not looking after it. I have a Stihl dealership and frequently get 20,30 and even 40year old Stihl and husky saws in for service, or at least have the owners picking up parts to service them themselves. My personal saw is a 268xp thats 36yo and runs like a champ. My dad has a 38yo 024 super that cut close to 30years of firewood 6-8 cord/year before he just couldn't handle the work anymore. Saws still strong as hell.
Another thing to consider is that quality saws, especially Stihl, have the parts to keep the saw running. If you can commit to maintaining it, it will last a very long time.
I don't. Nor does my stihl dealer. Or my chainsaw contractor. I live on bog, where it doesn't stop raining. Ever. It is always humid. And you are likely to spend half your time knee deep in swamp when you cut. My farm is technically dry land for less than half the year. Same with everywhere here.
I think wranglerstar retired one of His stihls after 15 years too in a recent video.
My dealer suggests about 15 years before a stihl saw would be retired. If you look after it. You don't see many old saws in use here. And no vintage. I asked him. 15 years.
I respect stihl. I think their build quality and ethic is excellent. I would love to run two. I would be faster, more efficient, less frustrated, and happier. But even my dealer won't suggest anywhere near 25 years as a working life.
Your a stihl dealer. I respect that. I respect your product. And if I had the money it is all I would run. I don't. So I run clones.
your 'it doesn't stop raining..on a bog' comment lends credence to my belief that iowa & midwestern agriculture is soley responsible for its own 500yr flooding events, i.e. microclimates. Bog climates shouldn't otherwise rain everyday unless the precipitation cyles were more prevalent at higher turnover velocity. These 15ft tall stalks hold a lot more moisture than former plains. I was in w.wisconsin bog country recently, & it was mostly normal dry weather, but i don't doubt you.
Keith, what's your preferred off brand saw? Any you've had more luck with than others?
My next saw will probably be timber pro, which is available in both the US and in Europe, and people seem to like them. I had been using a HY5200, which is sold under lots of brand names...the one I have currently is actually completely unbranded.
It's a 52cc saw with a 20 inch bar. In 4 years, I've replaced a clutch Spring, a recoil, the air filter, the whole clutch cover and brake bar piece...and that's about it. Parts are cheap. I also go through spark plugs faster, and have to service it thoroughly every year, or it's impossible t start.
Many of the 52cc clone saws seem to be the same engine and internal a, but with different cases and features. It's been more reliable than my Husqvarna 240e, with more power, cheaper parts, and more uptime. But the reliability is not compared when compared with, say, a stihl.
As I said, I think I'll try my luck with a timperpro 62cc saw next.
There's lots of channels on RUclips of people running clone saws long term if you have a look, you'll get some good insights and advice about the pros, cons, and the different clones available.
If you are looking to invest n one, I'd go find some of those channels, and look at the series of videos that look at the saw over time. Lots of Chinese saws work great for the first month, and then don't. The long term test guys will have a better perspective, and will save you money and heartbreak. I think kimballcody has some long term saws and love2boat92 has lots of long term reviews. Best of luck.
9:01 I died when the music stopped then started when he cut the lil bit off😂
Mega Oofer amazing timing
I love how people who've never worked in the woods for a day in their life are leaving judgemental comments about his techniques. What do you want, OSHA certified videos? He still has all five fingers on both hands!
Keep it up Wranglerstar
I died when I seen he still has all 5 fingers..rofl
osha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i wastaught to leave the holding wood 1/3 of the way,,his is 1/2 threw the tree,,,,also was taught to borecut to make sure tree is not rotted,,lol
@@DigitalENCOM People still say rofl?
Destry Jones No they don’t, but didn’t you see where he said he died? He must’ve passed away many many years ago
Two separate stems with "included bark" should not be felled together with a conventional notch and back cut. That can be one of the most dangerous jobs to encounter with standing trees. Each stem needs to be treated as a separate tree and felled accordingly. Those stems could have failed at anytime while making the notch or back cut, killing the operator. The visible seam between the two stems is a dead giveaway upon approach. The visible bark on each interior side of the stems once they are laid down confirms the presence of included bark.
MovingTarget
He will be OK he has his PPE sunshades on
The notch should be around one fourth of the thickness of the stem, not over half of it.
Tristan maximum 1/3, around 1/5 to 1/4 works fine in most cases, and notch should be as small as possible always when there is reason to expect rotten wood inside the stem.
Finally after reading all the comments OMG ! SOMEONE THATS SEE'S IT , wow to many people using saws with out training , freaks me out the stumps people leave , this isn't even a name for there cut 😂🤣😂🤣
Not being there I could be wrong but I thought I saw, what looked like a primer on that machine. IF it is, the instructions should say something about pushing the primer several times BEFORE trying to start.
trongod2000 it's a rubber plug. Some models that don't have the rubber primer bulb, will have a rubber plug to simply fill the hole where the primer would have gone. It looks like a Poulan or craftsman knock off.
Men never read the instructions ! But he could have just pulled out the choke for a couple of pulls....
Ashley Law on my poulan saw , when you pull out the choke lever , it sets the fast idle.
yes it does and on mine, you pull the choke out , push the primer 5 x start it and then after warms up push the choke half way back in for idle
Ashley Law he did have the choke pulled
With these chinese saws there is a way to start them that most people don't understand. They don't have a priming bulb and auto prime, you don't need the throttle. Open the choke and pull a couple of times 5-6 (max) whether it starts or not at this point, put the choke back in then start it, will usually come on in one pull. If the saw comes on and turns off with the choke out this the time to close the choke. I've had massive issues with these till I learnt to use them, now I've never had one not start within 3-4 pulls. If you keep pulling with the choke out you will flood it, at this point just leave it over night it will usually sort itself or you can probably open the spark plug and tip the fuel out. Hope it helps some people out there.
You made the price go up!
Its 200 now.
I know 😂😂
$139 now.
Now he made it currently unavailable
Wait, weren't you supposed to run in the same direction as the tree was falling in? You know, like in every movie?
Lol that's classic
Prometheus school of running away from things
Been using these similar saws for 4 years in Aussie here they are branded bauma ag. Only they come with oregon bar and chain. First thing I did with the one I use regularly was strip it and exhaust port it. Power increase was supervising. Internally very nice needle roller bearing construction. They do have prob with poor filtration and also material actually getting past filter. Solved simply by leaving off external cover off air box. This particular saw I pulled from box stripped and ported then mounted to chainsaw mill fitters with skip tooth tungsten chain and then ran for over two hours at full throttle. Has never missed a beat in 4 years.
I see this as a cheap engine for a go kart project
Chris Shearer Seems like you get could a more powerful engine for the same price.
I think you’d be better off with a predator 212
Do it mr. W
You can find 125 or 150 pit bike engines for £100-£200.
Predator 6.5 horse for 120$ at harborfreight grate motor
LMAO. This channel has some serious Tim Allen nostalgia to it. Well done sir!
My fathers old 70's Stihl didnt have a lock. We use to put our foot in the guard to hold the trigger and start it while it was on the ground. We still have the Stihl chainsaw too.
My favorite saws are my old 70's homelite xl 12's. No chain brake, manual oiler - I love it. New saws are a bit nicer on my back due to weight, but they don't have that solid feel with all the damper springs.
volvo09 the old homelites are great I picked up a vi super 2 from a field and have been using it for years it always starts on the first or second pull something that the junk newer Chinese/Mexican homlites cant do
you stihl have it?
Hugh Stafford-Langan Yup, i stihl have it. Its a little hard to start though.
Oz army teaches this way as do most chainsaw instructors.
I purchased a Chinese saw for fun...a different brand however..."Blue Max." Came w/ both a 20" and 14" bar and two chains for roughly $130.
It functions surprisingly well and still starts on the first pull after two seasons of use. The engine case also looks exactly like yours. I imagine that they're all made by one manufacturer.
I was, and remain pleasantly suprised !
I was watching the video because I have to get a larger back up saw looking for something with a 20 inch bar like that but when ya gotta fight to get em running the first time that is a bad omen especially as rough as it gets getting something running in the cold weather. I hate taking trees down when its hot out just makes the job harder not to mention the tree is heavy with leaves in the summer. In the winter the job is only half the mess and work than cleaning up leaves all over the place. I don't wanna have a saw that I have to fight to get it going.
He is like the best, humble and safest teacher to have
Not bad for $100. I’ve found the best place for cheap saws are garage sales. As long as you don’t mind doing a little work on them.
MJMcomputers in new england pawn shops are good too
Bought a Stihl 028 Super at a garage sale for $70!
MJM’s Workshop f
bought a Dolmar 120si for £120 on the free ads. 3.6 kw is exactly double the power from this sewing machine and it was made in the 80's just keeps on cutting. Beauty is in the ear of the beholder too, check out that growl..
Agreed, most of my tools are yard/estate sales. However, while the pro is that you pay pennies on the dollar, there are cons.
Cons: you have to get there early early. Selection is extremely varied, you can go many times and not find what you are really looking for. Some things I have never seen so far, like a rotary hammerdrill, I've only seen a bandsaw once (there were 2 of them, lil guys, but still, i was on bike, so i picked up 70 pounds in my bag anyway...that was one of the better scores), things in high demand can be not as cheap as hoped, or again, you gotta be early. I saw a chainsaw once (also log splitter at same locale), and it was bein bought while i snagged other stuff (stanley planes, coleman lantern with metal case and the good radioactive wicks, various pokey bits and bearing stuff). Often estate sales are run by an agency, which is a whole other animal....
So essentially, do the yard sale thing as a hobby, and accept that it will take quite a bit of time (years likely) to be able to round out a shop. After doing it for awhile, you will get an idea as to what you need to buy new.
But you cutta ma grass, i come for you! lol
Try testing the cheapest knife sharpener you can find on Amazon.
Probably would be like a $3 Aluminum Oxide combo stone.
I know what you mean ha I agree
Spongey I
keith moore - I do this with the bottom of a coffee mug in a pinch.
Your sister?
I bought this same saw, it doesn't need a throttle lock. It has a primer pump on the handle. Pump 5-6 times, starts first pull every time. Didn't expect a good saw when I purchased it, but it's actually decent. Not quite a Stihl, but as good as say a Homelite or something comparable for less money.
at least you are one honest guy ,not puting the Chinese down ,after all we are getting it so cheap.The motor sounds good too.
I'm a Stihl fan I'm just asking with u owning that chain saw many trees u drop an how many hrs you use it to the test and what is the warranty I'm no keyboard Warrior I'm just asking you because money versus quality it's very important to me I'm still upset about my snap-on impact is no better than a Harbor Freight one and Harbor Freight is 1/3 of the cost
@@bradwells8643 it's all in the maintenance cheap saws are just as reliable just not as durable. If you're a homeowner or handy man/landscaper and you take care of it it'll do fine, but if it's gonna be beat like a redheaded step child, bounced around in a bed of a truck everyday with just fuel and chains thrown at it just get a Stihl
I started working in the forest when I was 12. I have used chainsaw ever since (stihl, jonsered and husqvarna). I usually keep close to the tree until I feel certain of where it's on its way. It simple to circle it close to the stump , way harder when you're not close to it.
I agree. I had a tree chase me around in a circle in a forest . I thought i was done for !! It can happen so quick that the wife can be a widow as easy as a cops wife
Great tip!
I love these cheapest on amazon videos, Make more please! great video!
Tristan Mundis then go to Facebook and type Aliexpress reviews for more cheap items
Steve-n-seaguls for the win
I guess you and I are the only Stevenseagulls fans.
+actionbob5001 Not really
Nope. Big fan here.
Love their Metallica cover. Those guys are pure talent
I also like their covers. Steve-n-seagulls is a band from Finland, and I am Finn. I saw them playing in kind of festival and I can tell that THEY ARE AWESOME LIVE BAND!
"Power = 1800W - what the hell does that mean?" 1800 watts Cody ! Hahah aka 2.4HP
Strange to see a gas motor rated in hp but that would be my guess as well
Chemistryisthegame I was about to explain the same thing then saw your comment
well it is common in asia to use watts
I think its something like 755watts/hp. Looks like a Husqvarna knockoff. Check the choke and see if it isn't setting the throttle to a start position when you pull it out. Thats how a Husky 55 carb works. The oiler adjustment is even in the same spot as a husky.
I have an 1,800 Watt electric scooter that is powered by a 36 Volt battery pack. I did the math and indeed, 2.4 HP is correct. That kind of power is not to be messed with as I crashed doing about 40 MPH. Ouch..
So how has this saw held up in the 2 years since this video?
thats cheap stuff are available on market upon the plight and ordeal of chinese workers ..
Brynley Lewis
Nope, he bought the new cheapest saw on amazon and brought this back out in the video. Still had it, still ran, no problems
Hey Wrangerstar, Id just like to say that after a few weeks of watching your videos I've learned a lot and I'll continue to watch! I like how you throughly examine and run down how to use tools. Its also great that your stand up for yourself against all the keyboard warriors/haters on the internet!
Keep being you :)
I bought a similar chainsaw from Amazon here in UK, for £85 (~$115) had a spare chain & looks very similar to the one you have there, but it was a "Parker" make. And so far it has been pretty good. I moved into a new property and needed to remove quite a lot of old trees and the chainsaw cleared them all with no problem. Not a professional job be any stretch of the imagination, but for the occasional use it really is a fair saw & I think if I maintain it well it will do me for a few years to come.
how is it now
I was screaming at the screen, Chain brake! Chain brake! HAHAHAHA!
Same here hahahaha.
Has this guy ever used a chainsaw before? Amateur hour
At the start when he couldn't pull the side cover off he had the chain brake on which prevents it from coming off
Me too!!! I was hoping he didnt get it off
I realised that in las moment before i open my mouth =)))) But yeah,the chain brake applyed prevent the sideplate comeout.
Power 1800W means 1.8kW of Power around 2.5HP 😁
Sounded like he was joking
@@larswissdur2262 He wasn't joking, just had a dim-wit moment.
damn so that chainsaw is 2.5hp? my grandfather has one that is 70hp :D
@@hazaltiger5601 No he doesn't. Wait, sorry, is that a joke? I can be a bit slow on the uptake.
@@hazaltiger5601 that was most likely 70cc. 70hp thats more of a tractor
For such an important tool to you, you remained very unbiased this video. Congrats
"Everyone should have a chainsaw"
THIS IS MY PROTECTION CHAINSAW! THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN STOP A BAD GUY WITH A CHAINSAW IS A GOOD GUY WITH A CHAINSAW!
I understand to you the idea of owning a chainsaw (or gun) seems silly. I guess you live in a city. Do you understand how someone like this guy (living in extremely remote Oregon) could want to own both a chainsaw and firearm? That chainsaw keeps his house warm. And calling for the cops could be a 30 minute affair.
@@alphazuluz He can't, he's a leftist.
I love jim Jeffries😂
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The casing and many parts look almost identical to my Victa saw. It's no Husky or Stihl, but for the money (I think I paid about $250 AUD), it does the job. Almost all our trees are hardwood, not softwood (mainly eucalypt), and it goes alright. The starting procedure is a bit finicky, but it usually starts ok if I do it as per the manual - ignition switch to on, choke out, press the primer 6 times, give it about 4 pulls, then put the choke in and pull again. It doesn't need to have the throttle held open, it starts and runs without touching it. I find that the trick is keeping the chain sharp all the time, because it just doesn't have the grunt of a Husky or Stihl.
Thanks for doing this Cody. I appreciate your generosity of knowledge. There are those of us who watch your experiences and use them as motivation and guidance for our projects.
I bought this chainsaw and used it to replace my old 16"Stilh.
4 years later it is going strong. Knocked down and processed many pine and Macrocarpa trees with it.
It is not without flaws but the most important were fixable. Replaced the chain and the bucking spikes.
The trigger mechanism is so flimsy that it often falls apart. Easily restored. The clutch is terrible. But yeah the bang for your buck is immense so i recommend it.
i do all my cutting in my underwear because it get soo hot here in northern Canada in the summer. is this a safe technique?
Edward LaFlamme yes just make sure your dangly bits are far far away lmao jk
Only if you have 30 rack of molsen beer in your tool kit.
im usually pretty hung over i dunno if that counts
Edward LaFlamme
No sir. That is very dangerous! Please wear someone else's underwear next time.
Edward LaFlamme wear a took
The design looks a lot like my 30-year old Husqvarna Rancher saw, but with cheaper plastic parts. I used to start it on the ground with my right foot in the handle hole, keeping the throttle open :-)
I've been cutting red oak with the 20 inch model (62 cc) for about a month now - into my second chain - using 50 to 1 mixture and semi-synthetic motor oil for the bar. Mine starts on the first pull every time once hot, two or three pulls when cold - you may need to fiddle with your carb adj to get yours just right out of the box. It doesn't like being turned on the side when low on fuel. All in all a good budget saw.
Your comment made me think of the last time that I "fiddled" with a 2 stroke carb. I fouled it up so bad that I ended up throwing the weed eater away😂😂😂
@@quietobserver4636 Still using it. starts most days first or second pull. I think the key is top brand oil and fuel. also, I store it on the side - filler caps facing up - don't ask me why, but it seems to help.
@@foreversunrise8749 what brand is it? I need to get a cheap saw to cut pine knots with. I run a 20" bar on both of my sthil saws. Those chains are $37 now! I just can't make myself cut kindling with them.
@@quietobserver4636 coocheer 20 inch 62cc with upgraded senreal 325 pitch .058 gauge 78 drive link chain
I love that you use typhoons song as an intro. Kyle Morton is one of my favorite song writers!
What you aren't going test it by putting two chainsaws on opposite ends of the bar together?
A chain that runs across both saws and see which one wins.
Some of know what you mean. I saw that video also.
Send him an expensive saw I'm sure he'd do it. Good saws around that size are in the $800 range. I'd never do it to my saw
I need one of those for limbing up trees.
That saw is heavier than the 562xp and you want it for limbing?
Exactly! that was my ONLY question, how heavy...I have tendon issues in my elbows, so the next bar I buy for my Stihl will be a lighter one
My Alaska Dream .............Paul.....Paul Bunyan?? Is that you Paul?!?!???
22 is a bit excessive for limbing
John Baylie longer is better, dont have to bend over as far
Hey wranglestar!! Being an arborist for the last 15 years I've learned that the tide bottles with the little push button spiggot on the side works great for bar oil. just hold it over top and push the button. You're welcome :)
i use laundry bottles too for chain oil . nice bottles and they pour well .
Oh do I really have to check the manual☹️!!
Every guy on the planet, including Australia and New Zealand!
Works good out of the box on one tree. The question is does it have legs. Will it last.
How long would it need to last to be worth purchasing is the question,
Maybe a seasons worth of firewood. Six or eight chord.
I think it will last.
My grandfather had a crappy "poulan PRO" saw that he got about 20 cords of white poplar out of before he passed. I now run the hell out of that saw when I do use it.
It stars well, and runs well even past -20 Celsius.
Canadian tire routinely has it on sale for $180 (42cc, 18 inch bar, case, extra chain and some oil)
D Ballard Bingo
If he had to contact another professional tree felller to cut the trees down, it would have cost a lot more than 100.00 to drop them and clean them up.
My mother-in-law had a tree drop from the country property beside her place onto her property. She had to have it removed even though it originated on county property. It cost her 500.00 to have it cleaned up and removed. The county should have taken care of it for her considering what she payed for property taxes and all. Bunch of county leeches. Not being critical of the fellers that removed the tree, they showed up within a day and had it off her property the same day they arrived so bravo to them.
Two years ago, I bought the cheapest chainsaw here, in Romania, was 350 LEI (80 $) and I worked a lot with it, I cut a lot of trees, firewood, and today this chainsaw is still runing. I made from firewood which I cut with that chainsaw 100 times of his value.
The thing you have to consider with cheap tools is that you can find ones that work well and have the power needed for the job, but if they're made with cheap parts they're going to wear out faster. So I guess you have to decide if you buy something cheap that works *now* or something expensive that works *relatively* inevitably.
I agree but in most cases these purchases will never see a second use. "Whoops" I didn't notice how old the post was.
11:00 Tree:" i'll take you down with me!!"
On the amazon link the company took pictures with the chain on backwards! haha
lmao, Yes, yes they did
You should read the book "To Fell a Tree" by Jeff Jepson to learn proper felling techniques.... that book has probably saved my life several times
Nice, looks like a good read.
The throttle lock is probably part of the choke. On our Jonsered saw you squeeze and hold the throttle then pull out the choke. That will keep the throttle open.
Yea I was gonna say this. Mine comes on just pulling the choke out and when you push choke back in throttle is still locked until you burp the throttle
Just watched the whole video. The whole video!!! Never used a chainsaw ..... never will! I am addicted to RUclips. I needed to get that off my chest
We are here for you buddy!
I used to log professionally and we always used lucas oil stabilizer as bar oil. Its much more "stringy" than bar oil and it lasts waaaay longer than a typical tank of bar oil. Just my 2 cents
I was thinking that just as he said stringy i thought lucas oil stabilizer would probably work well
I took a tip from a pro. logger who just uses cooking oil, worked for me for years so far.
I had the same thought. Lucas must have effective marketing.
@RoMMeL1337ak47 I have been using "used" cooking oil since I watched a pro logger. An old timer who had spent his life logging and still did it with his two sons. I have been using cooking oil for more than ten years and haven't replaced my bar in that time.
@@chrisconlon7970 would think that would be good in the winter, -20F would flow better.
That cheap saw has TWO nuts to hold the bar! I bought a much more expensive saw that only had one and you could not keep the bar/chain tight! I like it!!
I mean, Stihl's best in-tree saw on has one nut.
Ken Fouts Hey! Good point. I'll be checking out that feature when I'm shopping for a chainsaw. Thanks!
What Model?
STIHL?
No, it was a McCulloch. My experience has been that if a chainsaw manufacturer wants to save money on the build they go to one nut not two. They put one compression ring on the piston, not two. Stihl has two nuts for all their pro line accept for the super light weight pro saws. Their entry level saws are now showing up with only one nut. Others have not had any problems with one nut. All I can say from personal experience is the McCulloch saw I had was terrible. Very hard to start and after you ran it the bar would loosen so you had to shut it off to tighten everything only to have another very hard start. The saw Cody reviewed has two nuts, ran well and was super cheap. On top of that you can purchase a warranty for around $13 so you cannot lose. You can run through 3 or 4 of these saws and still be under the cost of a Stihl. I only use Stihl because they work and work and work. One of my saws is almost 30 years old and I purchased it new.
There is a Ryobi at Home Depot for $89.
The Brand probably the same manufacturer
I realize this was 5 years ago, but now this saw is $399.99 on Amazon. The saw for around $100.00 on Amazon now is COOCHEER Gas Chainsaw 20-Inch, 62CC 2-Cycle Gas Powered Chainsaws, 3.5 HP Handheld Cordless Chain Saw with 2 Chains and Carrying Bag. Have you tested this yet Mr. W?
Thanks for the excellent review.
Would you test a battery powered chainsaw? Maybe the DeWalt or something similar. I'm curious how it stacks up to a gas powered one.
There should be more than two that are curious about that, my vote goes to the Makita XCU03..
dunno if Dewalt has a flexvolt chainsaw going yet but could be interesting to see
AtheistBeaver They do, the DCCS670X1 is in the flexvolt line up and they have a some in their 40v line up as well
DarthDew87
Me too. Would a cordless be best for a home owner? And would it work for someone that does a lot of cutting? Those are the questions I would like answered. There is a real chance they could eclipse gas saws "someday" since there would be no vibration and fewer parts to break. I just want to know how the current line up of electric cordless saws stacks up.
Ryobi has a 40v brushless saw I'm curious about
Longevity? Say 10 tanks of gas and review again???
Fritter Drummer I second this. He needs to use it for a few months and report back
Fritter Drummer I agree but I'll bet it still runs...
With proper fuel mix in it and regular use it'll last, I'm going on 3 firewood seasons with a similar off shore saw
longevity is at least 10 years in my opinion.
I have no doubt it'll work when I buy it, but will it start when I need it again, after sitting on my shelf for ten months? Or will it last for a landscaper who needs it every other day?
Got a headache after shaking my head so hard watching you start that chainsaw lol
Where is your video showing how to start a powersaw Brad?
I don't have one Cody. However, I'm willing to upload one since it appears you could use the instruction. lmao
You're a forestry guy Cody, You should know how to properly start a saw, Cheap off brand or not it makes no difference. I work at a Stihl dealer and I'm not even allowed to show the forestry approved method, The method you used was even more dangerous. You set an example with your videos Cody and that was a bad one. The Xtream Powersaw is similar to the old Stihls that had no trigger lock, It was a safety feature making sure that you held the saw down with your foot while also holding the trigger open a bit when starting.
I have to agree with Brad. If you would have started it on the ground you would have been cutting wood 10 minutes earlier. Jamming in a file is silly.
Brad Nimbus you seriously got a headache? Or are you just exaggerating like most of the nimrods trying to get likes on your comments
A smaller notch will do you a lot of good on the tree. Gives you more leverage to direct it with your wedges, and will help keep it from falling backwards
That saw for sure has Xtreme Power! At least it lives up to its name.
I like how he has enough confidence in what he’s doing to not edit things out that aren’t perfect. Good video maybe I’ll send you a doughnut soon 😋
.................................................................................................................remember that doughnut.
"Better not put the chain on backwards" Very next shot has chain on backwards haha!
It wasn't, pay attention.
I had wondered if I was the only one that noticed that.
Except it isn’t on backwards. I sincerely hope you’ve never fitted some poor bastards chain only for it to not cut very well at all 🤔
Hahaha. Thats funny
My thoughts too
What happened was bark inclusion from the tree being co-dominant stem structure. It makes pretty much two separate trees. You should have felled each side separately
I think I would have cut them separately.
ringerson4x4. EtiL type
that is the best way to do it.
No surprises..
Chain on backwards before fitting the dog.
I was just following the instructions Jamison,
Seems like a cheap Echo copy. Better than nothing if that's all someone can afford, and probably much better than a Husky 240.
Didn't you know it Cutts better that way
Every mans worst nightmare... reading the instructions😂
Exactly, Men and instructions dont mix
You learn something new every day, despite this video being 5 years old. My little "robot" pool vacuum is "made" by this same brand. Who would've thought you'd find a company making frigging pool vacuums and chain saws.
5:56 nothing like a good ol' invisible funnel.
God I love this comment. Dad always rags on me about not using a funnel sometimes.
I've never used a wedge to drop a tree, I always angle the back cut downwards towards the notch.
It looks remarkably like the Remington Outlaw RM4620 I bought from Home Depot for $189. Although, the Remington has an Oregon bar and chain. I use it to cut down maples and oaks for firewood. I have never had a problem in 2 years of ownership. Hoping to buy a Stihl or Husqvarna if this one ever dies.
Keep the air fuel and oil clean and flowing, a good sharp chain,, may last you a life time, thanks I may look at one of those as a back up, i use a sthil its ok, but has some cheap parts on it as well handle broke first week i used it back in 2018,never replaced, still ok for light use
@@daleval2182 is the xtreme power the same as the silver dalmar 112
@@farmbossmikey1350 fucked if i know?
Its 2am in central NY and I'm wide awake. My kids are asleep and I'm watching a no-name chainsaw unboxing. 🤣😂🤣😂
Love these comparison vids! I have a 12 year old Poulon pro that I paid $100 for new. Still runs like a champ!
Ratdog 305 I found a Husqvarna special chain saw at the dump and they said it didn't run... they didn't have the spark plug connector dooie on the top pressed on and after adding gas it fired right up
Ratdog 305. Those saws run really well especially for the $
I have a 1981 Poulan that I got for free, that runs great.
Dont do that again yeah? Blind leading the blind
"its got metal in the places it requires it.." but does it have aluminum in the places where it really should have steel?
it is actually very easy to start, when the engine is cold, pull the shock, then pull the starter cord until it gives a start signal, press the shock and then pull the string again until it starts, but first of all the button to the left of the shock goes up !!
Just came upon this channel, very enjoyable.
Nice use of Thunder struck by Steve " N " Seagulls love that version😉👍👍
You Might as well ! Have Had Madoona ! Or Mariah Carey ! Or Taylor Swift !! Of how about Beyonce !? Or even ! The one who Sings Poker Face !!! Who ! Needs AC.DC ! Anyway !! ?
@@davidwillard7334 Sure you could have used any of the singers you mentioned, I simply pointed out the nice version of the ACzDC song by Steve N Seagulls, go and give it a full listen, then maybe you will see that it is a cover that KILLS
I bought a cheap Chinese 20" chainsaw 2 years ago and it is still going. It runs like a V8 and has heaps of power. Generally the chain supplied is cheap so invest in a good chain and keep the saw clean and you have no problem. Was going to buy a Husky when it dies but I can't see it giving up any time soon. Only $160AU.
I kept yelling "take the chain brake off. It's like a husky."
That looks like a nice tree limbing saw or a truck saw. If it gets damaged or grows legs, you're not out much.
Aint nuttin worse than a piece of equipment or a tool growing legs..
Messy pouring, drove me nutty, awsome
Hey cody, I'm an arborist. And yes, rot is what it was. We call them co-dominate. And the best way is to fell them individually if possible. I suspected that was going to happen when I seen that it was co-dominate and their lean.
Cody is dumb as a box of rocks, he even put the chain on backwards in this video.
I love all the lumberjackasses commenting on technique. The folks who buy this saw will be just as inexperienced, and using it for around the yard, not felling redwoods.
No offense but why would you take a chance like that. Should have just fell them singularly
Used alot of chainsaws. Then proceeds to do everything a person who has never touched one.
which is what? I've never had to use a chainsaw in my life
not use the footpad to start the saw. does a plunge cut(which sometimes have to) but should never do as it can kick very easy, he also cut well above his shoulder height, which should always be avoided, and also should always have saw chaps on, yes they are expensive, but isnt your legs worth the couple hundred bucks
A Wild land sawyer seem to be pretty well qualified to run a saw
He does the plunge cut perfectly, it only kicks if you do it wrong. (start the cut with the bottom of the tip so it doesn't bounce) It's an important and useful technique and it's good to show it off in testing video.
Starting the saw without the foot pad is fine if you know how to do it, he even has the chain break on. (sometimes you can't put the saw on the ground to start it)
Only thing he does badly is trying to tip the tree like that.
Thank you for the review. I'm in need of an inexpensive saw. I don't have use for one very often. At the hunt club or around the house on occasion is all I need. Can't really justify a top shelf saw.
Thank you again for the review.
You have to yell TIMMMMMMBEEEEEEERRRR!!!
Did you notice the pic on Amazon showing the chain installed backward? Maybe that's why they are selling them so cheap? They think they won't cut and marked them down. LOL
yeah it dont work so well haha, i bought a used saw for 30$ dident check it out befor the test run just fueled and went at a piece of wood... quickly figured out something was wrong as it wouldent cut butter if it needed too. killed the ignition and on a quick glance over noticed the chain was backwards. maybe thats why he sold me a nearly new looking , running McCulloch , 61cc with 22 inch bar for 30 $?
I should be so lucky. LOL
“Better be careful not to put the chain on backwards” then at 4 min 52 chain on backwards. Don’t worry mate we’ve all done it at some point. Just maybe not on video. 😉
It isn't. The body of the chainsaw in the view belongs to his Stihl and not to the Chinese one on the left where the bar is mounted on.
MY FAVORITE CHAINSAW IS WALMARTS STORE BRAND "HYPER TOUGH" electric shorty.... idk why i love that thing.
Steve 'n' Seagulls, i do like it ^^
There may be a lot of things you can pick on Cody for but there is not very many people here that have his chainsaw experience! For those new subscribers and viewers he is not only certified by the forest service but he routinely cuts trees for his job in Wildland Fire. He KNOWS what he is doing!
Right, my friend bough this saw. Told me it was great. After his third time using it it wouldn't start. I checked the compression. 75psi... So basically the rings/bore/top end was done (and yes he mixed the gas correctly). So you really cant form a review on one use. These companies only design it to last one or two trips. because by then the reviews are out and they are good. The engine is total junk.
YeCannyDaeThat. I am not gonna argue your statement. But I will say that most of the name-brand saw parts are made in China. And none of those are known to fail after one or two uses. Many of these use the same piston and rings, etc. I would venture to say that this on does too. Why reinvent the wheel? They just use off the shelf parts. I bought a piston ring for my Craftsman saw. It had a Husky label on the package. Made in China. Either your buddy got a bad one, or he did something wrong. Both can happen. I bet the majority of these saws are just fine.
Bryan Wilson I won a bet on that very thing. I told a friend my Craftsman was basically a Husky and called BS. Popped the lid off and it said Husky. It's a decent cheap saw. Change the bar and chain to a, you guessed it, Husky and you're good to go.
Startmakingsense Please
Yep. I have a Jonsered (That says Husqvarna on the data plate) and a Craftsman. The plastic is slightly different, but these saws are made up of the same parts. I think a guy has to spend some real money to get an actual made in Sweden Husky. I want a really old Husky or Stihl with the metal body. I am tired of plastic. The Craftsman was lent out and a buddy over tightened the bar nuts and broke the chassis. Seriously. But a new part was cheap. It is back going again.
i know you said mix correctly but never use 50:1 not enough oil ever on anything ever 32;1 minimum i build 2 strokes example 1960`s blue xl homelite 30 weight oil16:1 gas mix listed on the side of the saw thats when they wanted it to last and there wasn't an epa guy at the factory now every thing machined loose for the lean oil that china saw may been tightly machined needing 24:1 oil gas setting it just part of life we need to know i guess God bless Jesus is K
YeCannyDaeThat I know who your buddy is, he's a complete moron snd ran the saw with straight gas in it. No oil mix. Tell him to add some oil next time.
Coming from a East Coast man, Bravo! You did good for the unknown circumstances. God bless and be safe. Great evening to you.