Ranking Top 30 Pitchers in MLB for 2023

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2022
  • RANKING BEST STARTING PITCHER FROM EVERY MLB TEAM (2023)
    My rankings for the best starting pitcher from every team in MLB going into the 2023 season like Jacob deGrom, Sandy Alcantara, Carlos Rodon, Shohei Ohtani & More!
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  • @wariokanasta1772
    @wariokanasta1772 Год назад +225

    “And that’s why Jacob Degrom is the #2 Pitcher, #1 is obviously Edwin Diaz”

    • @fgtcg8078
      @fgtcg8078 Год назад

      @Unsold Liberty this clown probably doesn’t even watch baseball bro 😂

    • @cristianmunoz2480
      @cristianmunoz2480 Год назад +6

      @Unsold Liberty he's a Met to Marc

    • @mabmab6260
      @mabmab6260 Год назад +5

      This was some pretty big anti-Braves bias as a Mets fan from Marc. He hates on Ozzie Albies a lot, but I can see why. Max Fried just finished the season with an ERA below 2.48 and finished top 2 in NL Cy Young voting. Marc doesn't even count him as a top 20 pitcher? He was top 2 in the entire National League! Kyle Wright leads all of MLB in wins but doesn't even count as a top 30 pitcher? I'm sorry but a top 2 Cy Young finish and an MLB wins leader should never end up being counted as zero top 20 pitchers. I can see a world where someone might think Wright may never be able to replicate those wins, but he still should have been in the top 30 somewhere. I can't even slightly understand how Max Fried, as the 2nd best pitcher in the National League period somehow doesn't even crack the top 20. Both of those pitchers could have easily made the top 10 and no one would have a right to complain. Fried should have made the top 5 for sure. The fact that neither of them cracked this Mets fan's list of even the top 20 is total nonsense.
      Marc... I can get the hate on Albies. He was injured and didn't play much at all last season. Dumping on the MLB wins leader and one of the top 2 NL Cy Young finishers by claiming neither of them even belong in the top 20 is clearly either bias against the Braves after they have won your team's division every single year for the past half decade or favoritism towards other pitchers who are clearly just not as good as them. How do you finish top 2 in Cy Young if you aren't even a top 20 pitcher? How do you lead MLB in wins if you aren't even a top 30 pitcher? You don't. It's that simple. Both Max Fried and Kyle Wright have the stats to back up they are top 10 pitchers. The fact that you consider neither of them even top 20 pitchers shows clear and present Mets fan anti-Braves bias along with your bashing of Ozzie Albies. If those guys are as low as you rank them, how do they keep beating the Mets to win the division year in and year out?

    • @SanFranFan30
      @SanFranFan30 Год назад

      Starting Pitchers.

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад

      @Unsold Liberty He hates on Albies because Braves fans think he’s Jose Altuve. If he wasn’t so grossly overrated, Marc wouldn’t need to do that

  • @Erik-vn5xk
    @Erik-vn5xk Год назад +232

    Cease at 20 is CRAZY, “potential to be one of the best”, he just was!!!??

    • @TheMicklachey
      @TheMicklachey Год назад +18

      Yeah! He’s minimum top 10 and more likely top 5

    • @lukabuckets5435
      @lukabuckets5435 Год назад +3

      He’s top 10, but I’m a sox fan so I’m prob biased

    • @meadalofhonor1234
      @meadalofhonor1234 Год назад

      As a jays fan I’d say at least top 15 like manoah should be

    • @goatmode7317
      @goatmode7317 Год назад +3

      Top 8 easily

    • @aias97
      @aias97 Год назад +3

      Giraffe 🤡marc

  • @airbow27
    @airbow27 Год назад +791

    Manoah at 28 is criminal. Also being behind Glasnow is ridiculous

    • @ryanclark1450
      @ryanclark1450 Год назад +54

      Glasnow is way more talented, and will probably be higher by the time next year's list comes out, but yeah based on how good Manoah was last season, he should be higher.

    • @mr.trollincidents3588
      @mr.trollincidents3588 Год назад +20

      meh. i’m a jays fan and i can even say glassy is a bit better than manoah. however if you’re considering the 2022 season alone however then yeah alex comes out on top

    • @brandontong759
      @brandontong759 Год назад +14

      Glasnow clears that regular season merchant

    • @meadalofhonor1234
      @meadalofhonor1234 Год назад +24

      This is absolutely nuts that he even put gausman over manoah how is manoah so low 100% a top 10 pitcher

    • @metalmythology6282
      @metalmythology6282 Год назад +5

      Putting Manoah behind Fried is what really annoys me

  • @szgij6074
    @szgij6074 Год назад +88

    For a guy that finished Top 3 in Cy Young Voting to be at 28 is criminal

    • @xaviera6498
      @xaviera6498 Год назад +1

      I’m a die hard Yankee fan and agree with u 100%. How is Manoah so low

    • @jaydumon2784
      @jaydumon2784 Год назад +1

      And fried was second in the cy young and was ranked 21st

    • @carterelkins7891
      @carterelkins7891 Год назад +2

      @@jaydumon2784 and he mentioned everyone else's cy finishes and failed to mention Max finishing 2nd, lmfao mets bias is real

    • @greatnessdelton1381
      @greatnessdelton1381 Год назад +1

      @@carterelkins7891 He didn't even mention Urias and had him at 17th? He and Max were finalists! Personally, I think Urias was better, but both should be in the top 10.

  • @bockstaboi6638
    @bockstaboi6638 Год назад +277

    28 for Manoah is insane. I don’t care if he doesn’t strike guys out, every since the dude came into the league he has been a stud. 300+ innnings of sub 2.50 ERA ball

    • @mkadoza
      @mkadoza Год назад

      Where would you put him.

    • @Luka_MK
      @Luka_MK Год назад +1

      @@mkadoza Top 15 AT LEAST. Easily top 10 though

    • @trevorcarey3997
      @trevorcarey3997 Год назад +1

      I would put Manoah at # 12 and I would put ShoTime # 1 the Man is the GOAT 🐐

    • @daleftywizard9227
      @daleftywizard9227 Год назад

      @@trevorcarey3997 othani is good overall but if he would be pitcher only he would be just above average

    • @byInventus
      @byInventus Год назад +5

      @@daleftywizard9227 Top tier K rate and 172 era+ is not "just above average" by any stretch of the imagination.

  • @candian75
    @candian75 Год назад +305

    The disrespect towards Manoah is crazy. You said his stuff fell off near the end of the year is the furthest thing from the truth. He had an ERA under 1 in the last month of the season. Guy was the best pitcher in baseball in September. Just wow

    • @Patman0074
      @Patman0074 Год назад +34

      These latest rankings have been pretty awful, relief pitching one was really bad too.

    • @aidencirelli970
      @aidencirelli970 Год назад +2

      Agree especially the tigers cause they he’d one of the best bullpens and I can name five better the Gregory Soto

    • @PopOutPaulie
      @PopOutPaulie Год назад +4

      Yea sometimes I wonder what dude is thinking. The fact Gausman was ranked ahead of the likes of McClanahan Urias Musgrove Manoah and others. It made no sense

    • @chesschad81
      @chesschad81 Год назад +4

      Manoah's BABIP, HR/FB, xERA, FIP and xFIP all suggest he got lucky this year. This is rankings for 2023, not 2022.

    • @wildboar1911A1
      @wildboar1911A1 Год назад

      how did he do in the wildcard again?

  • @matthewworly758
    @matthewworly758 Год назад +250

    Max fried at 21 is wild… most underrated pitcher in the game

    • @gcubed5451
      @gcubed5451 Год назад +1

      No

    • @ryanclark1450
      @ryanclark1450 Год назад +21

      I wouldn't agree with the 2nd part, but yeah what the hell

    • @RobbPanic
      @RobbPanic Год назад +3

      He's not better than anyone ranked ahead of him

    • @ronmexico7256
      @ronmexico7256 Год назад +7

      He values k rate and fip over basically everything which causes some issues.

    • @ryanclark1450
      @ryanclark1450 Год назад +4

      @@ronmexico7256 But the thing is Fried has an amazing FIP for a guy with a not very high K rate.

  • @cjbain3632
    @cjbain3632 Год назад +85

    28 for Manoah is criminal

  • @jackthetvroaster7231
    @jackthetvroaster7231 Год назад +77

    No chance Manoah is only 28

  • @DylanBorisko
    @DylanBorisko Год назад +59

    Manoah was 3rd in cy young. having him at 28 is crazy

  • @TFergtruther
    @TFergtruther Год назад +24

    Julio Urias at 17 is crazy bro he had a Cy Young like year

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад +1

      So did 90% of these guys

    • @greatnessdelton1381
      @greatnessdelton1381 Год назад +2

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 It was barely 50%, lol, and Urias finished 3rd in CY voting after finishing 9th the year prior. He's a top 10 pitcher in the league, and Mark's going to look like a fool again like he did with last year's rankings.

    • @DannyGutzwiler
      @DannyGutzwiler Год назад

      He was better than Kershaw this year

    • @greatnessdelton1381
      @greatnessdelton1381 Год назад

      @@DannyGutzwiler Technically true, but Kershaw had a 2.28 ERA with 126 IP and 137 K's. Had Kershaw pitched a full 162 IP, he would have been a top 5 pitcher in the league and definitely better than Urias. And Kershaw's supposed to be "washed". Hope he continues to pitch "washed" then.

  • @keithrg
    @keithrg Год назад +80

    Gerrit Cole has a 3.66 ERA since the updated foreign substance ban in 2021 and you’re telling me he’s going to be the 6th best pitcher in the league next year.

    • @choppacrewboysgaming6178
      @choppacrewboysgaming6178 Год назад +2

      😂😂😂😂😂 yankees fans must thrown him some money. cole is no where near that

    • @austinwoods5858
      @austinwoods5858 Год назад +2

      Cole is elite

    • @choppacrewboysgaming6178
      @choppacrewboysgaming6178 Год назад +4

      @@austinwoods5858 when he cheated yup. he got taken to pound town by mutiple teams atfer he got caught

    • @austinwoods5858
      @austinwoods5858 Год назад

      @@choppacrewboysgaming6178 no he’s still elite

    • @sluggernott
      @sluggernott Год назад +3

      yeah, I can agree on that. He's still maybe a top 15-20 pitcher, but the stats back up what you're saying and show that he isn't top 10 right now. I'd rank Rodon higher than Cole.

  • @user-df8ro1wt9k
    @user-df8ro1wt9k Год назад +11

    As a Yankees fan, gerrit cole is not even a top 10 😭

  • @matthewking7960
    @matthewking7960 Год назад +17

    Kyle wright not being on this is criminal

    • @saquanbarkley734
      @saquanbarkley734 Год назад +3

      Fax. At the end of the day, when u put him on the mound, u get a win

    • @bryandevito5120
      @bryandevito5120 Год назад +1

      Leads majors in wins, gets no respect from Mets fan. Sounds legit.

  • @callmecon15
    @callmecon15 Год назад +32

    How does Julio Urias go down? He had a better season then he did last year. He was also 3rd in cy young.

    • @PopcornChicken99
      @PopcornChicken99 Год назад

      Other guys just had better seasons

    • @jasonpaslean9771
      @jasonpaslean9771 Год назад +2

      @@PopcornChicken99 I think the bigger issue is that he’s behind Nola who had an era over a full run higher than him and Nola is in the top 10 but he isn’t

    • @Ryan-xw2gm
      @Ryan-xw2gm Год назад

      @@jasonpaslean9771 outside of ERA Nola has better stats.

    • @contrast6140
      @contrast6140 Год назад

      @@jasonpaslean9771Phillies have terrible Defense which doesn’t help Nola. Nola has a FIP over a whole run lower than Urias.

  • @connorbaker2229
    @connorbaker2229 Год назад +16

    Castillo at 18 is wild

  • @hxmcde
    @hxmcde Год назад +84

    cole over verlander is crazy

    • @thedragon7649
      @thedragon7649 Год назад +2

      No

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад +10

      @@thedragon7649 Verlander destroyed him by every metric. Even when they were on the same team, Verlander outpitched him

    • @paulhopkins1905
      @paulhopkins1905 Год назад +6

      Cole over Valdez was stupid

    • @hxmcde
      @hxmcde Год назад

      @@paulhopkins1905 cole over anyone is stupid

    • @cavebabybeserkers2763
      @cavebabybeserkers2763 Год назад +2

      As a Yankees fan Verlander has always been better than cole. But imo Verlander the best pitcher in baseball

  • @__Yikes
    @__Yikes Год назад +81

    Julio Urias is maybe the most underrated pitcher in baseball

    • @davidpacheco2780
      @davidpacheco2780 Год назад +4

      I came to see what spot he had him at. He had him ranked lower than Kershaw lol.. 2023 is Urias' contract year and he's a Boras client. He hasn't had a bad season in over 3 years...

    • @Sam_Baseball
      @Sam_Baseball Год назад +1

      Bro he is the most overrated player in all of baseball. Look at the man’s fip

    • @GabrielMartinez-wo1vf
      @GabrielMartinez-wo1vf Год назад +2

      he's not. everyone knows he's really good, but there are a handful of pitchers who are definitely better. dodger fans just loooove overselling their players, and ig the way they feel like doing this with Urias is by calling him "underrated."

    • @josefstein9062
      @josefstein9062 Год назад

      When he isnt getting into domestic abuse cases lol

    • @alfredolozano4773
      @alfredolozano4773 Год назад +1

      @@josefstein9062what does that have to do with his pitching performance or his ranking at all😭

  • @SWWonders
    @SWWonders Год назад +7

    Strider made ONE statement about the Mets and backed it up with those advanced stats that you love so much and he's always making excuses when he loses 😂😂😂

    • @sluggernott
      @sluggernott Год назад

      Believe me, if it was a pitcher on the Mets who made that statement instead, the entire world would NEVER let Mets fans or that pitcher live it down for the rest of his career.
      Regardless if its true or not, as a pro athlete, you don't make excuses. He's young, so he'll learn, but it never looks good. Even if what he said was true (really, it was, the mets did get lucky, but they also put the ball in play, to their credit), you just dont say it. You just dont.

  • @UWHuskies94
    @UWHuskies94 Год назад +8

    “And that’s why Kodai Senga is the best pitcher in baseball”

  • @icecube3618
    @icecube3618 Год назад +5

    "He fell off towards the end" Manoah won pitcher of the month is september, during that time he pitched to a 0.84 era. That aint falling off

  • @dannyp3333
    @dannyp3333 Год назад +12

    I’ve been ok with every list so far but I’ve got issues with this one

  • @alkukayen4150
    @alkukayen4150 Год назад +8

    Dont understand how DeGrom ends up on top of these lists when he doesn't play anymore.

    • @sluggernott
      @sluggernott Год назад

      My guy, he ended the season healthy. This is going into 2023.

    • @alkukayen4150
      @alkukayen4150 Год назад +1

      @@sluggernott he's ready to pitch lights out for another 40 innings 💪💪💪truly the greatest pitcher in baseball

  • @benwrixon681
    @benwrixon681 Год назад +55

    Love the rankings videos! As someone who watched them all year, Manoah is WAY better than Gausman. Gausman gets lit up sometimes, but Manaoh always battles… just needs to figure out how to get lefties out

  • @supertrooperyt385
    @supertrooperyt385 Год назад +45

    Having Verlander at 8 after the season he just had is criminal

    • @davidrusso6400
      @davidrusso6400 Год назад +1

      He was trying to appease the people who would call him biased. Unfortunately...

    • @JawaPenguin16
      @JawaPenguin16 Год назад +3

      @@davidrusso6400 If he was trying to appear unbiased, having Scherzer that high doesn't help.

    • @aquarpioleonine3995
      @aquarpioleonine3995 Год назад

      @@JawaPenguin16 yeah... Scherzer at 8 was pretty lol

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад +1

      @@aquarpioleonine3995 Verlander was 8

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад +1

      @@davidrusso6400 But he was an Astro, so that’s hardly Mets bias

  • @BKrispy1
    @BKrispy1 Год назад +20

    Agree or disagree with where you have players, I love that this is becoming an annual thing. Hope to see it next year again.

    • @jimjames6990
      @jimjames6990 Год назад +1

      Julio Urias led NL in ERA 2.17 and 2nd in wins 17. He won 20 games last year 2.90 Era. Picked 3rd best pitcher in MLB by bleacher report. Giraffeneck is blind and dum

  • @fullcircle8231
    @fullcircle8231 Год назад +29

    Marc still crying himself to sleep over the fact Strider dissed the Mets one time and then proceeded to dog walk them the next time he played them💀😂

    • @Wolf-lx9xo
      @Wolf-lx9xo Год назад +4

      Fr, and all he said was that things weren’t going his way that game. I was at it and he can a terrible zone to work with and bullshit like basehits of the bag.

    • @jasonfondeur376
      @jasonfondeur376 Год назад

      Lmao why yall crying, Marc literally complimented him the entire segment 🤣 It doesn't take away that Strider always complains

    • @gregdiamond6023
      @gregdiamond6023 Год назад +2

      Marc doesn’t like his Mets questioned. He tends to get salty when his god squad isn’t being revered. Poor Marc.😂

    • @sluggernott
      @sluggernott Год назад

      @@Wolf-lx9xo Yeah, but that happens in baseball. As a baseball fan first, you want your young pitcher to learn that you can't make excuses for poor results in professional sports.

    • @davethewolf
      @davethewolf Год назад

      lmfao dog walk? he pitched 5 innings the next time out with 4ks, dude barley just qualified for a win innings wise. And with zero pressure, already having a 5+ run lead before he even took the ball.. Then in the postseason couldn't even get out of the 3rd. Y'all Braves fans got ur head so far up ur asses LMAO

  • @brittanytomczak1773
    @brittanytomczak1773 Год назад +38

    monaoh at 28 is crazy

    • @brandontong759
      @brandontong759 Год назад +2

      Regular season merchant

    • @meadalofhonor1234
      @meadalofhonor1234 Год назад

      Exactly how did he even think to put him that low that’s crazy

    • @kaps1___785
      @kaps1___785 Год назад +4

      @@brandontong759 so is the panthers and the whole rays offense💀

    • @bockstaboi6638
      @bockstaboi6638 Год назад +3

      @@brandontong759 bro we have seen 1 playoff start

    • @choppacrewboysgaming6178
      @choppacrewboysgaming6178 Год назад

      @@brandontong759 so is shane McClanahan

  • @dannovikoff8454
    @dannovikoff8454 Год назад +28

    I’m a Mets fan and fried is criminally underrated. He doesn’t strike guys out at an elite rate, who cares! He doesn’t give up runs and he’s reliable

    • @gregdiamond6023
      @gregdiamond6023 Год назад +1

      Totally agree!

    • @Insomniack
      @Insomniack Год назад +1

      I’ve been okay with most of Marc’s lists so far. Ofc having some picks here and there I would move a bit. But this list is by far the most I disagreed with, not just Fried (as a Braves fan), but quite a few that I just don’t see. But it’s all about “jumping off the page” I guess rather than game results I guess.

    • @gregdiamond6023
      @gregdiamond6023 Год назад +5

      @@Insomniack I want to know why he snubbed Kyle Wright.

    • @dannovikoff8454
      @dannovikoff8454 Год назад +1

      @@Insomniack yeah mostly agree. I’m somewhat biased bc I played with max a little in high school and always thought he was better giolito despite every scout being obsessed with Giolitos velo. I think urias needs to be higher too. I think fried puts up the same numbers for the next 10 years (sadly, as a Mets fan)

  • @benhussul1105
    @benhussul1105 Год назад +15

    Manoah at 28!!!!!!! Blasphemy

    • @ryanclark1450
      @ryanclark1450 Год назад

      Based on performance yeah he's too low, but his regression is very possible.

    • @meadalofhonor1234
      @meadalofhonor1234 Год назад +1

      @@ryanclark1450 have u seen his career so far 😂since he came up dominant he hasn’t peaked yet

    • @meadalofhonor1234
      @meadalofhonor1234 Год назад

      It’s crazy he is top 10

    • @ryanclark1450
      @ryanclark1450 Год назад

      @@meadalofhonor1234 He doesn't get whiffs but doesn't generate enough groundballs to warrant that. He's amazing and can get better, but peripherals project him regressing.

    • @CookieCrumbleKing
      @CookieCrumbleKing Год назад

      I can make better rankings and this guy cares about strikeouts and strikeouts only

  • @ndmill.5748
    @ndmill.5748 Год назад +10

    Max fried at 21 is wild he is better than both wheeler and Nola

    • @garyweightman5936
      @garyweightman5936 Год назад +1

      I do not like Braves but tend to agree. Nola no where belongs in equation. Wheeler and Fried are both good pitchers but as a Met Fan. We always had more trouble with Fried than we did with Wheeler!

    • @samg5737
      @samg5737 Год назад +1

      Wheeler is better than both and belongs around 5, Nola around 10 is right, but fried should also be there too

    • @garyweightman5936
      @garyweightman5936 Год назад

      @@samg5737 Wheeler is Good. Fried is too but Truthfully did not see that much out of Nola.Not consistent at all.

    • @samg5737
      @samg5737 Год назад +1

      @@garyweightman5936 Nola had a bad year in 2021 and was gassed in the World Series … dude has finished top 5 in cy young multiple times tho, doesn’t walk anybody, and strikes out almost a third of the batters he faces. I think that’s warranting of a borderline top ten spot

    • @garyweightman5936
      @garyweightman5936 Год назад

      @@samg5737 OK Top 10 we will see. Sure 1 Bad Year could happen.As a Mets Fan more worried about Phils in 23 so LOL hope not so

  • @OpticLOLJKS16
    @OpticLOLJKS16 Год назад +5

    Even though the O's didn't have a pitcher on the list I think for a "bend but don't break" starting rotation they did pretty damn well.

  • @loganmclaughlin6621
    @loganmclaughlin6621 Год назад +5

    Call me crazy Kyle Wright should be on the list, he was top 10 in NL Cy Young 3.19 era, 1.16 whip, 174 punch outs, 21 wins in 180 innings in 2022

  • @TwiggyGames24
    @TwiggyGames24 Год назад +7

    The DISRESPECT on Max Fried Jesus he had top numbers CONSISTENTLY top 10 pitcher

    • @blairmcbride5437
      @blairmcbride5437 Год назад +2

      Absolutely Max is definitely top 10

    • @spencerscott4336
      @spencerscott4336 Год назад +2

      AND kyle wright💀

    • @blairmcbride5437
      @blairmcbride5437 Год назад +2

      @@spencerscott4336 exactly a 21 game winner with an ERA of around 3 is definitely top 30 material.

  • @metskid88
    @metskid88 Год назад +17

    “And that’s why Jacob deGrom is the best pitcher in the MLB”

  • @DoubleA3403
    @DoubleA3403 Год назад +8

    I can understand Kyle Wright not being super high since this was his first full season really being in our rotation, but he should have atleast been on the list. I know you don’t want to put 3 Braves pitchers on the list but you gotta give credit where credit is deserved. Wright was elite last year

    • @sluggernott
      @sluggernott Год назад

      Wright wasn't elite in any important category. He had a nice year and it resulted in a lot of wins, but K rate, walk rate, hard hit %, ERA, FIP...WHIP....he wasnt elite in any of it.
      To be fair, this list is a little strange. Wright had similar numbers to Logan Webb and Webb made the list.
      It's also his personal ranking. Just his opinion.
      The Braves certainly have a great rotation. I'm actually partial to Ian Anderson because he's relatively local to me. I hope he gets back on track. He has ridiculous postseason stats already.

  • @hahahaj7117
    @hahahaj7117 Год назад +21

    Generally agree with your rankings but this video was a miss for me, still love the content of course you’re awesome dude! My main issues were with Castillo, Cease, and Fried being so low.

  • @callmecon15
    @callmecon15 Год назад +5

    I don’t think a pitcher should be ranked lower because they “don’t have the strikeout stuff.” Producing good results should determine if their elite or not

  • @JacksonLane02
    @JacksonLane02 Год назад +28

    With Justin Verlander I swear he could still be pitching in MLB by the time he's 80 yet still pitch like he's in his prime. The dude is basically the fine wine ofMLB he just keeps getting better with how older he gets

  • @foot1308
    @foot1308 Год назад +7

    “And that is why Justin Verlander is the greatest specimen to ever walk the universe”

  • @nathana346
    @nathana346 Год назад +26

    Max Fried is criminally underrated

  • @nicholas2290
    @nicholas2290 Год назад +3

    How you bouta have degrom at one when he missed half the season

  • @spman2099
    @spman2099 Год назад +10

    Romano and now Monoah? The Blue Jays pitching staff is getting severely underrated here. Marc must not like maple syrup, because this dude is making it his job to downplay Canada's team.

    • @jrdonaldson2053
      @jrdonaldson2053 Год назад

      .

    • @dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621
      @dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 Год назад +4

      Yet he says the Jays have one of the best rotations yet underrated them on these bad lists.
      And yeah, Romano was indeed underrated. Marc’s reasoning for ranking him low was because he didn’t strike out as many batters as year before. Who cares about strikeouts, getting outs is getting outs.

    • @jrdonaldson2053
      @jrdonaldson2053 Год назад +1

      @@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 Lol for real

  • @johnglenson625
    @johnglenson625 Год назад +5

    As a Yankee fan alek manoah is sooooooo low. One of the best right handed arms in the pros. Time to put respect on that mans name!

  • @brendanwesaw1260
    @brendanwesaw1260 Год назад +3

    bro strider said something one time after a bad game, only bc it was against the mets is why he had to bring it up

  • @meifert2
    @meifert2 Год назад +4

    Kyle Wright, the guy with the most wins in all baseball last year, not being ranked is a total joke.

  • @JaxPlayin
    @JaxPlayin Год назад +3

    gonsolin and urias not being on here is crazy. Urias with 180+ innings and gonsolin with a sub 2.5 ERA and over 100 innings before getting injured after the all-star break

    • @big_gulp444
      @big_gulp444 Год назад +2

      Urias was on here but your right not even HAVING Gonsolin is crazy when your putting Yu Darvish instead.

  • @JUSTRUSTY24
    @JUSTRUSTY24 Год назад +4

    Manoah at 28 for K rate might be the most asinine thing I’ve heard

  • @Thatguy_99
    @Thatguy_99 Год назад +5

    I'm glad you noticed Framber Valdez, cause he's so, so good!

  • @Wase616
    @Wase616 Год назад +21

    I knew we were in for something controversial when I saw manoah and Nestor at 28 and 29

    • @BooBoo_17
      @BooBoo_17 Год назад +1

      I mean, at least both of them top 20. I mean cmon

    • @Wase616
      @Wase616 Год назад +3

      @@BooBoo_17 manoah is top 10 in my opinion

    • @samuelsteiner3854
      @samuelsteiner3854 Год назад +2

      I don't understand how he ranked them so low they both had sub 2.5 ERA's and are always solid

    • @Wase616
      @Wase616 Год назад +2

      @@samuelsteiner3854 exactly same with fried he’s probably the most underrated pitcher right now

  • @goatmode7317
    @goatmode7317 Год назад +2

    Cease at 20 is the most disrespectful in your series history…

  • @BisbeePumas12
    @BisbeePumas12 Год назад +11

    In a time crunch? I got you.
    30. Kirby, SEA
    29. Cortez Jr, NYY
    28. Manoah, TOR
    27. Webb, SF
    26. Musgrove, SD
    25. Darvish, SD
    24. Glasnow, TB
    23. Javier, HOU
    22. McClanahan, TB
    21. Fried, ATL
    20. Cease, CWS
    19. Bieber, CLE
    18. Castillo, SEA
    17. Urias, LAD
    16. Gallen, ARI
    15. Valdez, HOU
    14. Kershaw, LAD
    13. Strider, ATL
    12. Woodruff, MIL
    11. Gausman, TOR
    10. Nola, PHI
    9. Wheeler, PHI
    8. Verlander, NYM
    7. Rodon, NYY
    6. Cole, NYY
    5. Scherzer, NYM
    4. Ohtani, LAA
    3. Alcantara, MIA
    2. Burnes ,MIL (NOT better than Sandy.)
    1. deGrom, TEX

    • @mrswizzlestickz2646
      @mrswizzlestickz2646 Год назад +4

      This video feels very mixed and all over the place

    • @Tourszs17
      @Tourszs17 Год назад

      Burnes is better than alcantara

    • @SpectoRecto
      @SpectoRecto Год назад +2

      @@Tourszs17 🧢
      🗿🍷

    • @Baseballify
      @Baseballify Год назад +2

      Worst list oat I
      My respect for Marc after this list:📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉

  • @Jherbo2027
    @Jherbo2027 Год назад +3

    Marc what do you want Cease to do? Win the CY? He just finished 2nd dude. This is really really bad

  • @ryanclark1450
    @ryanclark1450 Год назад +6

    Shane McClanahan should be top 10. He is way too low. He was able to be the best pitcher in the AL for half the season, only falling off due to a shoulder impingement, and some extremely statically unlucky games (the average velocity of the hits he gave up in his Guardians blowup start was 78mph). He has a similar strikeout rate to Dylan Cease, yet half the walk rate. He has a better groundball rate than guys like Verlander who are stars, and has had way better peripherals than Alek Manoah, who all projections show regressing next year. McClanahan has 4 plus pitches, something most pitchers could only dream of. The only guys I would for sure take over him right now are deGrom, Sandy, Burnes, Verlander, Ohtani, Scherzer and maybeee Cole, although his stats have been better than Cole since being called up.

  • @thedragon7649
    @thedragon7649 Год назад +1

    As a Yankees fan, I’m so happy we got Rodon and I think both New York teams will be ridiculous this year. Merry christmas

  • @gotchoclate
    @gotchoclate Год назад +20

    Marc, great rankings. Keep the content coming. I couldn’t take this list seriously after seeing Manoah at #28…AL CY young candidate, and after a stellar rookie season too? Lol. It’s clear you’ve literally never watched the jays play

    • @cpsea15
      @cpsea15 Год назад

      overrated

    • @dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621
      @dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 Год назад

      @@cpsea15 no he’s not. What’s your argument for not ranking him high. How much lower does his ERA and other stats have to be for you to admit his greatness?

  • @MikeOzmun
    @MikeOzmun Год назад +53

    Mad respect for aggressively ranking Burnes #2. Dude is an absolute beast.

    • @JawaPenguin16
      @JawaPenguin16 Год назад +2

      Over Verlander though?

    • @petekowalczuk4795
      @petekowalczuk4795 Год назад +5

      And over Alcantara Rodon ohtoni and scherzer

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад +1

      @@petekowalczuk4795 in fairness, at his best Byrnes rivals deGrom in terms of pure stuff, but I agree he shouldn’t be that high

  • @haydenharris5366
    @haydenharris5366 Год назад +4

    Keep Fried out of the top 20 because of a K rate? What about Cy Young finish? That’s a joke.

  • @ryanhenaghan1055
    @ryanhenaghan1055 Год назад +1

    As a 5”2 125 pound 12 year old pitcher, Alex Manoah has been my idol ever since he pitched at WVU. Homie dominated in the All Star Game. Top 10 is what I was hoping for

    • @savagecabbage7208
      @savagecabbage7208 Год назад +3

      Why did you tell us your height weight and age💀💀

  • @beastdude27
    @beastdude27 Год назад +2

    I'm surprised that you actually put Burnes at 2, as a Brewers fan I'm glad you can see it.

  • @Ueiksg
    @Ueiksg Год назад +5

    Shohei is incredible, but not a top 5 pitcher.

  • @devenhaywood1642
    @devenhaywood1642 Год назад +5

    Why is Max Fried that low?

  • @mattbagley6564
    @mattbagley6564 Год назад

    Love the videos Marc, Merry Christmas

  • @rorynell4962
    @rorynell4962 Год назад +1

    Tyler Galsnow has never pitched 100 innings in a major league season, he’s 29. How the hell is he not 30th? He literally threw less than 9 innings in 2022.

  • @benjaminipanini8469
    @benjaminipanini8469 Год назад +3

    Immediately so glad to see Kirby in the top 30

  • @rustyrc3869
    @rustyrc3869 Год назад +4

    I think Luis Castillo should be at least five ranks higher

  • @AshlynnS1113
    @AshlynnS1113 Год назад +1

    Javier at 23?!?! Your rating are pretty spot on but that one is just beyond, I also know people are mad about other rankings too

  • @sonyman25
    @sonyman25 Год назад

    Great Rankings!! I have Burnes, Alcantara, Roden, Woodruff, and Webb in my yahoo fantasy pool and I won the league!

  • @DFW817
    @DFW817 Год назад +19

    Was surprised Martin Perez wasn’t on here. He was nasty last year and consistent all year.

  • @dukeyboom
    @dukeyboom Год назад +7

    Manoah should be top 10, he finished top 3 in cy young and is straight nasty, your not changing my mind

  • @im_waffles2920
    @im_waffles2920 Год назад

    I been rocking with a lot of these rankings but man this one was a little wild

  • @JacquamillafiousJBH
    @JacquamillafiousJBH Год назад +11

    “And that’s why David Peterson will win the 2023 NL Cy Young Award”

  • @danieltrujillo5594
    @danieltrujillo5594 Год назад +5

    I think Manoah, McClanahan and Cease all need to be higher

  • @paulhopkins1905
    @paulhopkins1905 Год назад +9

    Christian Javier will be in your top 10 next year. I guarantee it, he has Cy Young quality stuff

    • @grahamman80
      @grahamman80 Год назад

      If he can improve on his efficiency he'll win the Cy Young.

    • @paulhopkins1905
      @paulhopkins1905 Год назад

      @@grahamman80 You mean the 2.5 era or the WHIP under 1 that he needs to improve? 😂

    • @grahamman80
      @grahamman80 Год назад

      @@paulhopkins1905 No, I mean his pitch count per inning/game.

    • @paulhopkins1905
      @paulhopkins1905 Год назад

      @@grahamman80 he wasn't a starter the full year which is why his innings per game was so low

    • @grahamman80
      @grahamman80 Год назад

      @@paulhopkins1905 His innings per start need to be more efficient.

  • @panivino28
    @panivino28 Год назад

    Congratulations Marc! This has been your best video! Now, Sandy Alcantara is number 1. Jacob was, Sandy is the current numero uno buddy.

  • @generallukeproductions
    @generallukeproductions Год назад +1

    I didn’t even realize that was Rodon in the thumbnail 😂

  • @SMBBlitzball
    @SMBBlitzball Год назад +6

    Would about Tristan McKenzie he is gonna be really good

  • @jccruz9826
    @jccruz9826 Год назад +7

    Manoah was 3rd in Cy young votes ! Really 28?

  • @TheBuzzkill2012
    @TheBuzzkill2012 Год назад +2

    I get it, this is hard. But Ohtani is a top 15 pitcher, and Verlander is top 5.

  • @bruhmeme4073
    @bruhmeme4073 Год назад +2

    “loves to make excuses” it was one game in which he had a fip and xfip under 2.00 so i wouldn’t call that making excuses

  • @hmminterestinginterestingi3023
    @hmminterestinginterestingi3023 Год назад +8

    As an Astros fan, both rankings of the two guys HOU has in there are right on the mark, although, gotta say, how in gods name to you put Cease and Manoah so low?

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад

      And Verlander? He was the best pitcher in the league last year

    • @hmminterestinginterestingi3023
      @hmminterestinginterestingi3023 Год назад

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 I do appreciate him and what he did, and I wish him the best in Queens, but sadly he’s no longer pitching for H-Town

    • @paulhopkins1905
      @paulhopkins1905 Год назад

      If you were an Astros fan, you would know that Valdez is a top 10 pitcher.

    • @hmminterestinginterestingi3023
      @hmminterestinginterestingi3023 Год назад

      @@paulhopkins1905 the way Marc ranks isn’t how I would, but he prioritized a high strikeout rate which Valdez just doesn’t have. If we’re talking about overall impact in 2022 and the 2022 postseason I think Valdez was #1

    • @paulhopkins1905
      @paulhopkins1905 Год назад

      @@hmminterestinginterestingi3023 Because Marc is a dumbass modern stat nerd that values theoretical stats instead of real world results

  • @YaBoyFish27
    @YaBoyFish27 Год назад +12

    “That’s why Justin verlander is not only the best pitcher of all time, but the best athlete ever born”

  • @chad_gotb
    @chad_gotb Год назад +2

    The disrespect to mcclanahan is insane

  • @cubanraider5373
    @cubanraider5373 Год назад

    nice video beast

  • @skylerbrooks4082
    @skylerbrooks4082 Год назад +3

    Bro strikeouts aren't everything lol, fried has finished top 5 in cy young the last 3 years, finishing second this year. 21 is absolutely criminal

  • @TheShield1007
    @TheShield1007 Год назад +11

    Manoah at 28 is actually insane

  • @mattdamon5481
    @mattdamon5481 Год назад +1

    Someting that’s import to note is that with the shift being outlawed next season, pitchers who pitch to contact will suffer more than those who have high K rates.
    Therefore I think pitchers who strike out a ton (like cease for example) should have been higher on the list. But overall, list is pretty valid.

    • @seanmccarthy5298
      @seanmccarthy5298 Год назад

      Unsubscribed for putting Cease number 20. Yikes

    • @sluggernott
      @sluggernott Год назад +1

      Cease also led the league in walks last year. I think the walk numbers hold him back a little.
      He also really just broke out in 2022. So he's had 1 elite season in his career so far.
      If he produces a similar season in 2023 and lowers his walk rate without much change in hit and k rate, I could see him being top 10 for sure.

  • @kushxclinton
    @kushxclinton Год назад

    28 was overly cautious for manoah but I feel like a lot of 15-30 could be diff places, and all of these pitchers are/should be elite. i feel like all of these pitchers have CY level talent and it’s hard in videos like this when ppl have to be higher than the other when more realistically so many of these pitchers have such similar levels of effectiveness

  • @JeffreyJetsKohut
    @JeffreyJetsKohut Год назад +4

    3rd in AL Cy Young... 28th... 4th in AL Cy Young... 4th!

    • @lukedeakin7124
      @lukedeakin7124 Год назад

      He put Fried in 21st, when he finished 2nd in the NL behind a guy who had *6* complete games

  • @fabianarias7411
    @fabianarias7411 Год назад +3

    Super mets biased in my opinion. Love degrom but at this point his health has to drop him. Very much contradicting yourself by downing pitchers for “lack of innings” or “health” when degrom hasn’t pitched past 100IP since 2019. Fried and Julio should be higher. I praise consistency rather then upside

  • @pfr9750
    @pfr9750 Год назад +2

    I get this guy is a Mets fan and doesn’t know how to be unbiased but fried at 21 is disgusting he got cy young votes this year and has been elite the past 3 years

  • @sammichael5709
    @sammichael5709 Год назад +2

    Here are some fun stats on the rankings, teams are sorted by average rank along with their highest rank for each position.
    Team (Avg): C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF, DH, RP, SP
    1. Mets (6.82): 22, 4, 3, 4, 3, 13, 4, 7, 9, 1, 5,
    2. Braves (9.18): 4, 5, 13, 4, 20, 18, 5, 4, 7, 8, 13
    3. Astros (9.55): 31, 7, 1, 5, 12, 11, 11, 5, 1, 6, 15
    4. Blue Jays (9.64): 5, 3, 14, 7, 8, 14, 14, 6, 10, 14, 11
    5. Padres (9.91): 26, 6, 10, 1, 5, 1, 13, 2, 16, 4, 25
    6. Yankees (11): 17, 9, 10, 14, 26, 7, 12, 1, 4, 15, 6
    7. Cardinals (11.09): 6, 1, 16, 2, 11, 5, 16, 13, 12, 9, 31
    8. Phillies (11.82): 1, 10, 24, 23, 1, 2, 24, 12, 3, 21, 9
    9. Guardians (12.09): 21, 12, 4, 3, 17, 1, 27, 16, 11, 2, 19
    10. Dodgers (13.09): 2, 2, 14, 32, 18, 22, 18, 3, 6, 13, 14
    11. Mariners (13.18): 8, 8, 11, 8, 19, 27, 2, 8, 31, 5, 18
    12. Brewers (14.73): 13, 18, 34, 18, 10, 6, 21, 22, 8, 10, 2
    13. Angels (14.81): 18, 29, 26, 15, 27, 4, 1, 10, 2, 27, 4
    14. Rangers (15.09): 14, 6, 2, 20, 6, 33, 22, 9, 27, 26, 1
    15. Orioles (15.09): 3, 15, 15, 10, 22, 15, 8, 15, 24, 11, 31
    16. Rays (17.45): 35, 25, 8, 11, 9, 3, 23, 23, 17, 16, 22
    17. White Sox (17.91): 11, 25, 34, 19, 14, 34, 6, 26, 5, 3, 20
    18. Twins (18.09): 19, 16, 9, 24, 30, 17, 3, 21, 22, 7, 31
    19. D-backs (18.28): 30, 11, 7, 22, 28, 10, 9, 17, 28, 23, 16
    20. Royals (20.91): 10, 13, 32, 9, 29, 25, 15, 27, 15, 24, 31
    21. Red Sox (21.36): 27, 19, 34, 6, 18, 28, 29, 19, 7, 17, 31
    22. Giants (21.55): 29, 17, 21, 26, 32, 8, 17, 11, 30, 19, 27
    23. Marlins (21.64): 33, 27, 6, 28, 25, 23, 25, 25, 14, 29, 3
    24. Pirates (22.09) 35, 24, 25, 12, 21, 21, 7, 30, 25, 12, 31
    25. Cubs (22.55): 32, 32, 30, 27, 7, 12, 20, 14, 13, 30, 31
    26. Rockies (23.09): 4, 23, 23, 13, 23, 9, 26, 28, 26, 18, 31
    27. Tigers (24): 23, 30, 27, 32, 16, 26, 10, 18, 23, 28, 31
    28. Reds (24.73): 9, 22, 20, 31, 30, 29, 30, 29, 19, 22, 31
    29. Nationals (26.73): 16, 26, 33, 29, 24, 30, 28, 24, 31, 22, 31
    30. A’s (28.64): 35, 21, 31, 32, 31, 31, 29, 20, 29, 25, 31

    • @sluggernott
      @sluggernott Год назад +1

      I think this shows some Mets bias, for sure. I'm a Mets fan too, but to say we average out that high on individual position rankings is pretty crazy. I agree with some of his, like McNeil and Alonso being top 5 and Diaz being the best closer, but I guess we'll see if it translates to wins.
      Thanks for the putting this together. Nice work.

    • @ethanstepanskisburneraccou487
      @ethanstepanskisburneraccou487 Год назад

      Bro get a life

    • @lukedeakin7124
      @lukedeakin7124 Год назад

      Honestly...I'm shocked the Mets fan, who runs a Mets podcast is obviously and clearly biased toward the Mets for best team. Shocked, I say.

  • @michaelrotter1134
    @michaelrotter1134 Год назад +3

    I'm a Giants fan and Manoah at 28 is a joke, and Webb at 27 is a joke as well until I remember you're a Mets fan 😜

  • @Yankeesfan-il2he
    @Yankeesfan-il2he Год назад +9

    As a Yankees fan I love the respect you put on Rodon and Nestor they deserve it

    • @rhibrammii1153
      @rhibrammii1153 Год назад

      Stfu rodon doesn't count for the yanks dip

    • @Yankeesfan-il2he
      @Yankeesfan-il2he Год назад

      @@rhibrammii1153 Yankees paid for him so he is a Yankee Giants fans mad they can’t keep onto their signings

    • @ItsJaceYoutube
      @ItsJaceYoutube 10 месяцев назад

      Rodon ain’t doing too well

  • @jd67543
    @jd67543 Год назад +2

    It’s literally insane how bad your rankings are in terms of pitchers. I didn’t think it could get worse than the Relief Pitcher video but this one definitely tops it.

  • @tylerwood5642
    @tylerwood5642 Год назад +1

    I know it doesn’t mean much in terms of rankings, but Max Fried had an arguably better year that Corbin Burnes last year even pitching in Atlanta vs Milwaukee.

  • @Josias27
    @Josias27 Год назад +4

    I have agreed all rankings so far except having Justin Verlander at 8 he had a 1.73 ERA

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад

      While I’ll admit ERA is hardly the best stat to judge pitchers since it doesn’t account for the ballpark or their defense, you don’t get an ERA that low without dominating. Verlander was absolutely the best pitcher last year

    • @Josias27
      @Josias27 Год назад

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 agreed

    • @lukedeakin7124
      @lukedeakin7124 Год назад

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 How about having more complete games than any entire team in MLB last year?

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 Год назад

      @@lukedeakin7124 Yep

    • @lukedeakin7124
      @lukedeakin7124 Год назад

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 I'm talking specifically Alcantara, dude was CY and he was like 4th

  • @user-fu2kf5sp1r
    @user-fu2kf5sp1r Год назад +6

    Manoah too low

  • @brooksfreeman3325
    @brooksfreeman3325 Год назад

    Love the videos keep it up❤🎉

  • @nallen006
    @nallen006 Год назад

    Great video!