He came out of a coma in one of the best years. As someone was stuck in ice since WW2 it feels great to be able to help the police fight fascists again.
We've had ours for a few months and we're still very impressed. It's right there with the Germans in pretty much every way that matters for this kind of car but I like that they went for traditional luxury instead of trying to copy the performance/luxury that others are doing. Going for "sporty" makes no sense to me in a giant SUV. It has good power, but it's not trying to be something it's not.
Working as a mechanic in Germany, I am disappointed with the German cars quality recently, we get cars with major engine damage anywhere starting 45,000 . They drive good, but I wouldn't depened on them at all.
@@st_us Yep, that's why will never buy a German car, unless things change. Too many major things break. Also, here in the US, usually a regular mechanic (one that works on American and Asian cars) won't work on BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen, Porsche, etc. If you don't want to go to the dealership, you have to go to an independent mechanic that specializes in German cars. Dealership or independent specialist, neither one is cheap. Yes, German cars look nice and drive nice. But they cost so much in repairs and maintenance.
hamsterama First of all, most Americans aren’t very reliable either these days, especially Ford/Lincoln, the only truly reliable brand is Lexus, who frankly are making mediocre cars these days. Secondly, Germans cars need specialized mechanics because they are a lot more advanced engineering wise.
EDVERSiTY hardly anyone is financing these cars anyways. and the ecoboosts are fairly reliable in the f150s so i’d have some faith in this thing. if you lease em, shit isn’t gonna hit the fan before you return it.
High class review with really top class video photography and editing that matches a really top class vehicle. 10/10. This car looks as good as the Volvo XC90.
The Grand Touring has a lot of transmission refinement issues, and the extra weight means its straight-line power:weight is about the same while it handles worse due to the extra weight. He did the Aviator better justice by reviewing a petrol-only version.
The GT is about 5800lbs, or about 250-300lbs heavier than the heaviest F150. On paper, that 630lb-ft of torque looks great, but in reality it isn't that much quicker than the base model...nor super efficient.
HellKitty 101 well of course it would be heavier than the f150, it’s a huge suv made of steal vs an aluminum f150. If the f150 wasn’t aluminum body it would weigh the same.
@@ZACH_95_ not necessarily. The Alumaduties aren't too much lighter than Chevy and Ram. And and the F150 is vastly larger than a Aviator, with a substantially beefier frame, heavier suspension components, etc. The 5800 pounds for a midsize SUV is inexcusable, particularly when the hybrid system doesn't produce significant performance or fuel cost savings.
Only mildly, but I'm sure they looked at all competitors, and the Volvo SUVs definitely are in that group, especially as they tend more towards softness than performance.
They hit it out of the park with the Aviator. Its a phenomenal vehicle. I was expecting you to nit-pick this vehicle to death and I'm glad you didn't. Its a bonafide premium product.
Awesome vehicle. I just purchased a 2021 Aviator Reserve (best bang for buck level IMHO) It rides like a dream. Just to put the speed and engine -400 Hp in perspective, I owned a 2005 BMW M3 that went 0-60 in 4.8. This luxury SUV ran a test time of 0-60 5.4-5.2 regularly. Crazy how much faster everything on the road has become. I mean, I also owned a 1981 Corvette with 210 hp that would be like a snail now. All things being equal!
@@funplaymix7710 Hello, I just sold it with 26,000 miles on it and purchased another one. Built like a tank with zero troubles. Great vehicles. Incredibly great in hard rainy conditions. Stable, smooth ride and quality.
@@funplaymix7710 Hello, I just sold it with 26,000 miles on it and purchased another one. Built like a tank with zero troubles. Great vehicles. Incredibly great in hard rainy conditions. Stable, smooth ride and quality.
@@theshadowtalks thank you for your reply, did you lease it? Why did you keep it only for 26k miles, such a short time I am curious and why purchased the same again?
@@funplaymix7710 No I didn’t lease it. I am retired and my wife and I used it mainly to visit our children and grandchildren. Highway miles. I purchased another because it was close to what I consider a perfect SUV.
I was looking forward to calling my Dad after I finished work to discuss the new goose video. Unfortunately, he suffered a massive cardiac arrest and passed away. Thank you for your videos we really enjoyed them.
Lincoln went from a brand i could NOT care less about to... well, a brand I kind of respect. Every time I see an Aviator on the road, I look at it and think "damn, that's a great looking vehicle." Petition for you to review the new Continental with the suicide doors???
I know right. They went from blah to handsome and refined real quick. My mom has the aviator. We all love it. Heck it’s quicker out of the hole than her Panamera
Did you get the aviator? How is it so far? I used to be an automotive apprentice so it's always been ingrained from experience that American made cars are mostly junk. This one looks damn good though. I might jump from german (BMW) to Lincoln in the future.
@@pocketaces777 I really like it, it’s powerful, nimble, comfortable, smooth and I have the stripped down one. I just was after horsepower in a comfortable ride that handles good. No sunroof, now adaptive cruise, lane keep assist is a joke compared to what my pilot had, I’m happy with it and I’m super picky.
Lincoln has come a long way since introducing the new Navigator in 2017, and I believe the Aviator picks up where the Navigator left off without missing a beat. Beautifully done review once again, SavageGeese. I'm eager to see your review on other products like the all-new Chevrolet Suburban, the new Lexus LC500, etc. Keep up the good work!
And for them this detail is undetailed, as they already covered some of the vehicle architecture in their Explorer review. I like that they don't feel the need to mention everything, just the ones that matter for that vehicle. So we get no 0-60 times, discussion of brakes, or detailed lists of what the infotainment system is capable of. Instead, they cover stuff that distinguishes this Lincoln: seating, styling, drivetrain smoothness, space for people and their stuff.
Thanks for another great video! Just sold my F150 and I am in the market for a low mileage used luxury SUV. After seeing the aviator in person and watching this review, I might have to bring my money back to America. I was dead set on the X5, but the Aviator is something fresh.
I feel the same way about my 400hp MKZ, (that Lincoln is killing off, bad call) running 12.7 in the 1/4 is awesome! The interior needs to be less buzzy/rattly but my friends M5 rattles worse and is new! I have family with Mercedes, they rattle as well and there is plastic in the interior, people keep trashing American cars for rattles, I have yet to ride in a European model that doesn't have them.
The only car that I've ridden in without rattles, and ironically has 110,000 miles is my friends 2011 Land Cruiser 200. Seriously, without a single rattle whereas I've driven half a dozen brand new BMWs with less than 5k miles on them with rattles on the inside.
I’ve had Mercedes, BMW, Infinity, Lexus and the infinity had the least rattles. Now get this. After my dad passes\d away I drove his 2004 Ford Crown Victoria. This bad boy had over 100,000 miles and NOT ONE SINGLE rattle. Crazy. I currently drive a 2015 explorer sport and it’s rattled since day one. I am hoping to purchase the Aviator. If it rattles a couple of years down the road I will be passed.
@@CrochetNewsNetwork I hear you, since I wrote my comment above I sold the '17 MKZ and got a new 2020 MKZ and so far 6 months, no rattles at all solid as granite. Which means I now have jinxed it, my Dad and I used to have a Limo business, those Town cars never rattled, same Panther platform as the Crown Vic, they lasted forever!
Love the Section References provided if you are scanning around. I love this channel for so many reasons, one of which is the production quality. Fantastic work that is continuously improving. Savagegeese is the only auto channel that I consistently watch the entire video.
No third row really needs to be adult-sized. They might as well be sized for kids as they're the only ones who'll ever climb back there. If you need to carry a bunch of adults you need a van.
If you scoot the middle row up and split the difference, then I have no problems sitting in the 3rd row. However, in any SUV this size, a third row is not meant to be spacious
Mark Miller Third rows definitely need to be comfortable for adults. If all you haul around are a bunch of small kids then a minivan might be a smarter choice for you. If you’re an executive with other adult executive friends or an older person that want a sporty and luxurious ride you’re going to opt for a SUV. These kinda folks will see more adults climbing into their third-row than small children. Also, kids grow up. So if you have kids that aren’t small anymore (teenagers) then you definitely want an SUV with an adult friendly third-row for them to be comfortable. Many kids in America, typically high schoolers, are actually larger than their parents who ride in the front seat. Manufacturers are expected to consider all households and scenarios if they want to be a top contender and that’s where Ford/Lincoln kinda dropped the ball in that crucial category. It’s marketed as a smaller Navigator but the third-row space comparison is nearly night and day.
I always imagine a new person watching, thinking how professional and overly mature this is. Then hitting the 0:50 second mark but still not understanding because it's said so deadpan . They leave questioning what just happened and if this should be reported to the police.
My wife has the Lincoln Corsair and the vehicle is outstanding...the 250hp standard engine...the elegant exterior styling,,,the interior design...the quietness...everything about the vehicle is top-notch. The Aviator Is in my crosshair and I look forward to slowly driving forward and resting this beauty in my garage.
I appreciate that they went all in on the luxury/comfort focus. I feel like if you're going for race car performance from an SUV you're in the wrong segment. Give me enough power to handle hills/freeways and I'm happy.
Marks father heard the Lincoln aviator roll up to the nursing home and he double front flipped out of his wheel chair, landing straight in the cockpit of the 2020 aviator. Miracles do happen, god bless
same here. although, i was waiting for him to pop out from the back seat at some point; i just assumed he lived in one when he's not in his mansion in the hills.
Good vehicle to be sure. Made it to our final two choices. In the end after driving the Aviator and X7 back 2 back 3 times we went with the X7. Both dealers offered us $20K off MSRP so $63K before TTT. They both have TT V6’s, both get surprisingly good gas mileage while delivering 5.4 second 0-60. In the end the X7 just feels better put together, is vault quiet and handling is way more composed.
@@seachickens4u Based on the recent reports it looks like we dodged a bullet. The Lincoln Aviator made the top 5 worsts vehicles to buy 2020-2023. And the crazy part for us, the local BMW dealer offered us $67K for our X7 now with 28K miles on it.
I'm still trying to figure out why you sounded like you were masking half sarcastic hatred for the entire interior overview. That said, I'm surprised and impressed. Really cool they were able to iron out so many of the bugs with the Explorer. This bodes well for the future of this platform at least. Big hopes for the Bronco too then. I figured with some time to smooth out the platform it would be much better.
The sweet spot with this vehicle is the reserve model with good equipment. The black label gets so expensive, you could buy a BMW X7 for about the same price.
I have one. Had it since Feb ‘20, unfortunately because of the wuhan flu I only have 4500 miles on it. It is.... Black Label, Grand Touring, pristine white, flight theme, luggage tan interior, every available option including rear seat entertainment package, yes it went into 6 figures. This is one AMAZING ride. It is also a neck snapping rocket. I drive in excite mode almost exclusively. The computer tells me I get 24.7 mpg with almost NO freeway driving. I’m a happy camper.
Had a chance to check one of these out and I recall that it was one of the only SUVs I have ever sat in where I felt I was driving a station wagon. But clearly a lot of time and effort put into it.
Been subbed for a few months man your production quality is top notch, I like the deadpan jokes and intricate detail. Music is always sweet too. Keep doin you
Also, 35 here. My parents daily drove a 1967 continental in the mid 90's. Well restored, black on black. Unlike Jack, my childhood memory of Lincoln was a bit better. As far as I am concerned they have been dead since the mk3 ended. And have only recently gotten a pulse again. Nice to see.
That piano music is soooooo good!! Great job goose, it has “to zanarkand” vibes or “KOR Madoka emotion” piano vibes. Strongly suggest people look these songs up on RUclips if you read this comment.
Don’t underestimate the influence that comes from the people who care about the electrification of vehicles. The Avaitor PHEV is appealing not just because of its luxury but because of its fuel efficiency. No other sized SUV with as luxurious an interior can come close to the efficiency of the Aviator PHEV.
Bought a black label version in black this past Dec. Was a great purchase- we love it. It has been into the shop twice- once to fix the third row not folding (module update) and once to update software to enable phone as a key. We cannot wait for a long road trip. It is awesome.
@@funplaymix7710 Great question. I would not re-buy. It was in the shop A LOT and the local ford dealer that services it (largest on the east coast) is HORRIBLE. Escalations to Lincoln did not help. We had it in the shop at least 4 times for the camera problems, they finally have a recall that SHOULD address it but I no longer trust anything they say. There are some bugs that can never be addressed or re-produced. A very annoying one is it will lose seat programing to the key, and randomly WHILE DRIVING move your seat. Usually on reverse out of the garage. In addition if you plug in a phone before the screen is fully booted it will black screen, the list goes on and on. I would skip it.
I noticed that in between the air bags in the rear end , theirs a cover that covers the air compressor , my aviator did not come with that cover. Is the aviator your under a black label with air suspension?
I wish they would offer a third row delete package, but the a$$hole bean counters would probably charge extra for the seats that they are no longer installing.
Lincoln would tell you to get a Nautilus. Just as Honda would tell you to get a Passport, Hyundai would tell you to get a Santa Fe, VW would say look at the Cross Sport, Toyota would say wait for the Venza, etc. etc.
Did you guys ever test the On-Stage function for the 3D Revel sound system? It's breathtakingly different sound stage that cannot be measured, but sounds so different from any other system out there.
Mark you need to review the 2020 Explorer ST which shares the same engine as the Aviator. It might answer address some of the issues you had with the 2020 Explorer you reviewed earlier.
They aren't going to because Ford doesn't build cars anymore. The best thing you can hope for from Lincoln is a piece of shit Ford in a expensive suit. Oh wait.....
I’ve been watching your video under the Lincoln aviator with much interest,while having my black label being towed by flatbed truck they attached there tow hooks to the suspension arms front and rear. The rear arms both cracked one arm fully split they other partially. Were they connected to flange also were cracked. Air suspension may also have issues. In your opinion how critical is damage to these parts. Replacement part are both arms and subframe. I’m being told that subframe damage will show up on history report as a safety issue and will reduce value of car. Can you give me your thoughts. Thanks in advance Roger K
my dad got one and damn is it gorgeous - he got the option with massage chairs. i drove it and it was incredible, but my ONLY gripe is that I prefer a traditional gear shift to the buttons in an automatic. A lot of cars are doing this now, so I might just have to get used to it, but for now my 2019 mazda 3 is perfect for me at my budget.
I was wondering the roads of the test drive. I went through Crystal Lake on the Prairie Path yesterday and noticed the high voltage power lines. Also maybe greasy food and skin condition is related.
Great review on another level. I wish this was available in the UK it is just what I want, everything here is hard sprung for a sporty feel. I will be looking at importing one.
I personally own a new Explorer ST and love it. I’m thinking your testing model was one of the ones they were getting that weren’t assembled well out of Chicago. Maybe I just lucked out. Who knows.
Can you do segments dedicated to "In the Shoppe". Too many people repeating stats and telling us biased driving impressions. Getting cars on the lift and giving consumers the truth is priceless!
Hard to believe, but this will be the new architecture for the next Mustang. I can't wait to see how Ford will achieve this while keeping weight in check.
The profile...did the designers trace around a Range Rover and then just changed a few bits?? The RR must have been the benchmark for this. Looks good though, and probably more reliable than an RR.
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I was about to offer my condolences for your father, but I guess they're no longer needed. Lincoln really came through.
I like that Lincoln is not trying to become something it isn’t - sporty. They are sticking to class and luxury and doing it very well.
So happy your father is out of his coma; A little light in these trying times. ❤
Errrrrrrr .... 🤔
2020 is a bad year to come out of coma.
He came out of a coma in one of the best years. As someone was stuck in ice since WW2 it feels great to be able to help the police fight fascists again.
He came out of the coma and fell onto one knee - you should check the local papers for his BLM awakening....
@@MrWhiterunGuard ok boomer
This is much better than the Cadillac XT6.
The XT6 was such a let down - I really like the exterior but the interior is just a "F you! Pay us for no effort!" from GM
Cadillac is getting left in the dust just all over the place
Lavonte A beautiful 9-5 you got in the profile picture!
Nice NG9-5
I hope they retrofit what the all new Cadillac Escalade interior into XT6
I have a 1990 Mercury Marquis. It's a floating couch. It requires a different state of mind, not everything needs to be so rushed.
Scotty K loves the Marquis/Crown Vic platforms!👍
Luv those boxy 90's Ford full size vehicles. I'm the owner of a 2006 Crown Vic LX.
Doesn’t the dash remind you of old Mercury cars?
We've had ours for a few months and we're still very impressed. It's right there with the Germans in pretty much every way that matters for this kind of car but I like that they went for traditional luxury instead of trying to copy the performance/luxury that others are doing. Going for "sporty" makes no sense to me in a giant SUV. It has good power, but it's not trying to be something it's not.
Unfortunately Lincoln is not available in Germany. 😉
Working as a mechanic in Germany, I am disappointed with the German cars quality recently, we get cars with major engine damage anywhere starting 45,000 . They drive good, but I wouldn't depened on them at all.
@@st_us Yep, that's why will never buy a German car, unless things change. Too many major things break. Also, here in the US, usually a regular mechanic (one that works on American and Asian cars) won't work on BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen, Porsche, etc. If you don't want to go to the dealership, you have to go to an independent mechanic that specializes in German cars. Dealership or independent specialist, neither one is cheap. Yes, German cars look nice and drive nice. But they cost so much in repairs and maintenance.
Oof, good luck in 50000 miles
hamsterama First of all, most Americans aren’t very reliable either these days, especially Ford/Lincoln, the only truly reliable brand is Lexus, who frankly are making mediocre cars these days. Secondly, Germans cars need specialized mechanics because they are a lot more advanced engineering wise.
I hope the public buy more Lincoln's because that's one American marquee that's doing a great job!
went to a ford/lincoln dealership today and honestly the new ones look great.
You can buy a 90's V8 Range Rover with a 4.6l for a couple thousand, those are real couches on wheels and if you want you can just go anywhere too
I’d much prefer this over “the Germans” in this segment. Beautiful American beast; actually excites me more than its competitors.
EDVERSiTY hardly anyone is financing these cars anyways. and the ecoboosts are fairly reliable in the f150s so i’d have some faith in this thing. if you lease em, shit isn’t gonna hit the fan before you return it.
Ruben Braekman Yeah if you want it to be in the shop every month
10 years from now:
The Lincoln MKX becomes the new Aviator, the Aviator becomes Expedition-sized, and the Expedition becomes an RV.
thanks mr Goose.
Not prius
Yowza she's pricey...props to Lincoln for their new upscale designs.
Canadian prices btw.
Yeah fully loaded it’s supercar-priced. But starting price isn’t terrible.
High class review with really top class video photography and editing that matches a really top class vehicle. 10/10. This car looks as good as the Volvo XC90.
And it has a real engine
its a better buy than the XC90 imo
@@ShaiyanHossain
Absolutely. Pity it isn't available in Europe. With a nice diesel engine ;-)
There's a Aviator Grand Tour model with 610lbft of torque that's also a hybrid that I think you should test out as well.
The Grand Touring has a lot of transmission refinement issues, and the extra weight means its straight-line power:weight is about the same while it handles worse due to the extra weight. He did the Aviator better justice by reviewing a petrol-only version.
Pass
The GT is about 5800lbs, or about 250-300lbs heavier than the heaviest F150. On paper, that 630lb-ft of torque looks great, but in reality it isn't that much quicker than the base model...nor super efficient.
HellKitty 101 well of course it would be heavier than the f150, it’s a huge suv made of steal vs an aluminum f150. If the f150 wasn’t aluminum body it would weigh the same.
@@ZACH_95_ not necessarily. The Alumaduties aren't too much lighter than Chevy and Ram. And and the F150 is vastly larger than a Aviator, with a substantially beefier frame, heavier suspension components, etc. The 5800 pounds for a midsize SUV is inexcusable, particularly when the hybrid system doesn't produce significant performance or fuel cost savings.
The interior looks like an American designed Volvo.
2 generations ago and much cruder. Looks like they took the floating console design of Volvo. Ford used to own Volvo.
And the exterior😉
Volvos are Made in the US now also. As are the Germans, Japanese, Koreans, etc
Only mildly, but I'm sure they looked at all competitors, and the Volvo SUVs definitely are in that group, especially as they tend more towards softness than performance.
Volvo doesnt have an interior thats this luxurious
This is gorgeous! Welcome back Lincoln, we've missed you🏎
They hit it out of the park with the Aviator. Its a phenomenal vehicle. I was expecting you to nit-pick this vehicle to death and I'm glad you didn't. Its a bonafide premium product.
Bruh what you talking about its a giant american shitbox
Complete with standard pre-delivery underbody suspension and drivetrain component corrosion.
@@SovietUnion100 Whenever I hear someone say bruh in real life, I automatically don't take them seriously.
evidently you haven't seen a genuine luxury car before and I am not talking about some ugly ass Crown Vic on 26 inch wheels
Awesome vehicle. I just purchased a 2021 Aviator Reserve (best bang for buck level IMHO) It rides like a dream. Just to put the speed and engine -400 Hp in perspective, I owned a 2005 BMW M3 that went 0-60 in 4.8. This luxury SUV ran a test time of 0-60 5.4-5.2 regularly. Crazy how much faster everything on the road has become. I mean, I also owned a 1981 Corvette with 210 hp that would be like a snail now. All things being equal!
3 years later how reliable and problematic was your Aviator? What problems have you had ?
@@funplaymix7710 Hello, I just sold it with 26,000 miles on it and purchased another one. Built like a tank with zero troubles. Great vehicles. Incredibly great in hard rainy conditions. Stable, smooth ride and quality.
@@funplaymix7710 Hello, I just sold it with 26,000 miles on it and purchased another one. Built like a tank with zero troubles. Great vehicles. Incredibly great in hard rainy conditions. Stable, smooth ride and quality.
@@theshadowtalks thank you for your reply, did you lease it? Why did you keep it only for 26k miles, such a short time I am curious and why purchased the same again?
@@funplaymix7710 No I didn’t lease it. I am retired and my wife and I used it mainly to visit our children and grandchildren. Highway miles. I purchased another because it was close to what I consider a perfect SUV.
Goose, I'm so glad to see that you got the friendship bracelet I made you! ♥
I was looking forward to calling my Dad after I finished work to discuss the new goose video. Unfortunately, he suffered a massive cardiac arrest and passed away. Thank you for your videos we really enjoyed them.
Lincoln went from a brand i could NOT care less about to... well, a brand I kind of respect. Every time I see an Aviator on the road, I look at it and think "damn, that's a great looking vehicle."
Petition for you to review the new Continental with the suicide doors???
I know right. They went from blah to handsome and refined real quick. My mom has the aviator. We all love it. Heck it’s quicker out of the hole than her Panamera
alright...….alright...…..alright...…..
I pick up my standard Aviator tomorrow. I don’t care about all the extra stuff. I was blown away by the test drive. Totally agree such a great car.
Did you get the aviator? How is it so far? I used to be an automotive apprentice so it's always been ingrained from experience that American made cars are mostly junk. This one looks damn good though. I might jump from german (BMW) to Lincoln in the future.
@@pocketaces777 I really like it, it’s powerful, nimble, comfortable, smooth and I have the stripped down one. I just was after horsepower in a comfortable ride that handles good. No sunroof, now adaptive cruise, lane keep assist is a joke compared to what my pilot had, I’m happy with it and I’m super picky.
Do you still have your Aviator? If so, how is it holding up?
Lincoln has come a long way since introducing the new Navigator in 2017, and I believe the Aviator picks up where the Navigator left off without missing a beat. Beautifully done review once again, SavageGeese. I'm eager to see your review on other products like the all-new Chevrolet Suburban, the new Lexus LC500, etc. Keep up the good work!
Words of wisdom. Please bring back the funny guy in the end, he was like the icing on the cake.
Please don't. That was funny the first three times. Maybe.
It's gettin' HOT out there...Need some ....Jungle Power.
real karfixer the cherry on the cream!
I love how detailed this video is especially on a car like this Lincoln
And for them this detail is undetailed, as they already covered some of the vehicle architecture in their Explorer review. I like that they don't feel the need to mention everything, just the ones that matter for that vehicle. So we get no 0-60 times, discussion of brakes, or detailed lists of what the infotainment system is capable of. Instead, they cover stuff that distinguishes this Lincoln: seating, styling, drivetrain smoothness, space for people and their stuff.
I love how you put even these unsporty SUVs up on the lift, nice unique touch to see the parts as they're being discussed.
Wow. You guys do a helluva job in making Illinois look picturesque.
As a Car Salesman I appreciate the amount of detail that you put in your videos. As well as the color commentary.
"This is basically like driving a home theater around"
INTERIOR CROCODILE ALLIGATOR, I DRIVE A CHEVROLET MOVIE THEATER
Chip tha RIP
You guys are the best reviewers hands down. Perfect combo of info and humor.
Thanks for another great video! Just sold my F150 and I am in the market for a low mileage used luxury SUV. After seeing the aviator in person and watching this review, I might have to bring my money back to America. I was dead set on the X5, but the Aviator is something fresh.
Having had a MDX Type-S as a long term - which suv has a better ride? Which do you prefer ?
I feel the same way about my 400hp MKZ, (that Lincoln is killing off, bad call) running 12.7 in the 1/4 is awesome! The interior needs to be less buzzy/rattly but my friends M5 rattles worse and is new! I have family with Mercedes, they rattle as well and there is plastic in the interior, people keep trashing American cars for rattles, I have yet to ride in a European model that doesn't have them.
The only car that I've ridden in without rattles, and ironically has 110,000 miles is my friends 2011 Land Cruiser 200. Seriously, without a single rattle whereas I've driven half a dozen brand new BMWs with less than 5k miles on them with rattles on the inside.
I’ve had Mercedes, BMW, Infinity, Lexus and the infinity had the least rattles. Now get this. After my dad passes\d away I drove his 2004 Ford Crown Victoria. This bad boy had over 100,000 miles and NOT ONE SINGLE rattle. Crazy. I currently drive a 2015 explorer sport and it’s rattled since day one.
I am hoping to purchase the Aviator. If it rattles a couple of years down the road I will be passed.
@@CrochetNewsNetwork I hear you, since I wrote my comment above I sold the '17 MKZ and got a new 2020 MKZ and so far 6 months, no rattles at all solid as granite. Which means I now have jinxed it, my Dad and I used to have a Limo business, those Town cars never rattled, same Panther platform as the Crown Vic, they lasted forever!
Love the Section References provided if you are scanning around. I love this channel for so many reasons, one of which is the production quality. Fantastic work that is continuously improving. Savagegeese is the only auto channel that I consistently watch the entire video.
Huge jack looks so squeezed in the third row, he had to fold his huge frame in half’s just to fit back there!
I've been in the back of this. Not a whole lot of room there. Definitely for kids or emergency use only.
No third row really needs to be adult-sized. They might as well be sized for kids as they're the only ones who'll ever climb back there. If you need to carry a bunch of adults you need a van.
He's not really that huge, maybe 5' 10"...
If you scoot the middle row up and split the difference, then I have no problems sitting in the 3rd row. However, in any SUV this size, a third row is not meant to be spacious
Mark Miller Third rows definitely need to be comfortable for adults. If all you haul around are a bunch of small kids then a minivan might be a smarter choice for you. If you’re an executive with other adult executive friends or an older person that want a sporty and luxurious ride you’re going to opt for a SUV. These kinda folks will see more adults climbing into their third-row than small children. Also, kids grow up. So if you have kids that aren’t small anymore (teenagers) then you definitely want an SUV with an adult friendly third-row for them to be comfortable. Many kids in America, typically high schoolers, are actually larger than their parents who ride in the front seat. Manufacturers are expected to consider all households and scenarios if they want to be a top contender and that’s where Ford/Lincoln kinda dropped the ball in that crucial category. It’s marketed as a smaller Navigator but the third-row space comparison is nearly night and day.
I always imagine a new person watching, thinking how professional and overly mature this is. Then hitting the 0:50 second mark but still not understanding because it's said so deadpan . They leave questioning what just happened and if this should be reported to the police.
I think the best things about this channel are the humor and how you put the car on a lift and walk thru the engineering.. Keep it up
The sarcasm level is through the roof. I love it.
My wife has the Lincoln Corsair and the vehicle is outstanding...the 250hp standard engine...the elegant exterior styling,,,the interior design...the quietness...everything about the vehicle is top-notch. The Aviator
Is in my crosshair and I look forward to slowly driving forward and resting this beauty in my garage.
Excellent intro music and punchlines, a blend of technical knowledge and sarcasms, excellent job
Sounds like I may have a shot at steering my wife to replace her GL450 with this. Thanks for the honest review
You guys are the dynamic duo. Keep up the great work.
I appreciate that they went all in on the luxury/comfort focus. I feel like if you're going for race car performance from an SUV you're in the wrong segment. Give me enough power to handle hills/freeways and I'm happy.
Please continue with the obscene comedy, my god is it ever needed with vehicle reviews. Thanks for the laughs and awesome content guys!
Marks father heard the Lincoln aviator roll up to the nursing home and he double front flipped out of his wheel chair, landing straight in the cockpit of the 2020 aviator. Miracles do happen, god bless
I'd love to see Lincoln and Cadillac cars on European roads.
Was waiting for that Matthew McConaughey reference
same here. although, i was waiting for him to pop out from the back seat at some point; i just assumed he lived in one when he's not in his mansion in the hills.
Go to 3:49 in the video and look at what song is playing!!!!
I'm a big fan of you and Jack tag teaming the reviews. IMO you should keep doing that. Great, balanced video.
Good vehicle to be sure. Made it to our final two choices. In the end after driving the Aviator and X7 back 2 back 3 times we went with the X7. Both dealers offered us $20K off MSRP so $63K before TTT. They both have TT V6’s, both get surprisingly good gas mileage while delivering 5.4 second 0-60. In the end the X7 just feels better put together, is vault quiet and handling is way more composed.
My god 20k off you did it!
Your x7 is a twin scroll single turbo inline six btw
@@seachickens4u Based on the recent reports it looks like we dodged a bullet. The Lincoln Aviator made the top 5 worsts vehicles to buy 2020-2023. And the crazy part for us, the local BMW dealer offered us $67K for our X7 now with 28K miles on it.
I'm still trying to figure out why you sounded like you were masking half sarcastic hatred for the entire interior overview. That said, I'm surprised and impressed. Really cool they were able to iron out so many of the bugs with the Explorer. This bodes well for the future of this platform at least. Big hopes for the Bronco too then. I figured with some time to smooth out the platform it would be much better.
The sweet spot with this vehicle is the reserve model with good equipment. The black label gets so expensive, you could buy a BMW X7 for about the same price.
I have one. Had it since Feb ‘20, unfortunately because of the wuhan flu I only have 4500 miles on it. It is.... Black Label, Grand Touring, pristine white, flight theme, luggage tan interior, every available option including rear seat entertainment package, yes it went into 6 figures. This is one AMAZING ride. It is also a neck snapping rocket. I drive in excite mode almost exclusively. The computer tells me I get 24.7 mpg with almost NO freeway driving. I’m a happy camper.
Each video looks better than the last, and the time stamps rock
Had a chance to check one of these out and I recall that it was one of the only SUVs I have ever sat in where I felt I was driving a station wagon. But clearly a lot of time and effort put into it.
Been subbed for a few months man your production quality is top notch, I like the deadpan jokes and intricate detail. Music is always sweet too. Keep doin you
Love your videos. Great to see your channel continue to grow.
where's turbowski? did you leave him at jamba juice?
Also, 35 here. My parents daily drove a 1967 continental in the mid 90's. Well restored, black on black. Unlike Jack, my childhood memory of Lincoln was a bit better. As far as I am concerned they have been dead since the mk3 ended. And have only recently gotten a pulse again. Nice to see.
Well now we know where Ford's focus went...
Very good
Ford's Focus went into the Aviator's glove compartment.
That piano music is soooooo good!! Great job goose, it has “to zanarkand” vibes or “KOR Madoka emotion” piano vibes. Strongly suggest people look these songs up on RUclips if you read this comment.
Don’t underestimate the influence that comes from the people who care about the electrification of vehicles. The Avaitor PHEV is appealing not just because of its luxury but because of its fuel efficiency. No other sized SUV with as luxurious an interior can come close to the efficiency of the Aviator PHEV.
...those are best looking seats i have ever seen in the history of car-seat-design! (a seat on a seat what treat...
Bought a black label version in black this past Dec. Was a great purchase- we love it. It has been into the shop twice- once to fix the third row not folding (module update) and once to update software to enable phone as a key. We cannot wait for a long road trip. It is awesome.
3 years later how was your experience with the Aviator? Was it in one shop a lot? Anything major? Would your recommend?
@@funplaymix7710 Great question. I would not re-buy. It was in the shop A LOT and the local ford dealer that services it (largest on the east coast) is HORRIBLE. Escalations to Lincoln did not help. We had it in the shop at least 4 times for the camera problems, they finally have a recall that SHOULD address it but I no longer trust anything they say. There are some bugs that can never be addressed or re-produced. A very annoying one is it will lose seat programing to the key, and randomly WHILE DRIVING move your seat. Usually on reverse out of the garage. In addition if you plug in a phone before the screen is fully booted it will black screen, the list goes on and on. I would skip it.
@@ericschuster5929 oh lord your problems are indeed annoying! Does it not have wireless Apple airplay ? Also you had year 2020?
I save these videos to listen to at work. Keep up the great work. I've learned so much about the specific workings of each vehicle. You the Man(s)!
Surprised at the love you gave this, I think it's one of the better looking SUV's out there.
I agree.
15:42 I really appreciated watching this. Thanks for driving. I see you next time.
Can we get this guy a million subs? He deserves it!
So... if the truck loses all electrical power (eg. crash and the pyro fuse is triggered), how do the doors open if they are electric only?
I noticed that in between the air bags in the rear end , theirs a cover that covers the air compressor , my aviator did not come with that cover. Is the aviator your under a black label with air suspension?
Luxury is all I want from a luxury SUV. If I want sporty, I buy a sedan or sports car. Good thing somebody still recognizes this.
I agree.
That is some great exhaust tips
I wish they would offer a third row delete package, but the a$$hole bean counters would probably charge extra for the seats that they are no longer installing.
Lincoln would tell you to get a Nautilus. Just as Honda would tell you to get a Passport, Hyundai would tell you to get a Santa Fe, VW would say look at the Cross Sport, Toyota would say wait for the Venza, etc. etc.
Go Lincoln! Happy to see American companies making competitive products again.
your reviews are concise and superb!! my "go to" auto journalist
id never thought id get this hype for a fomoco SUV
It’s a really amazing car. I never thought I’d fall in love with a Lincoln
Please do a review on the Lincoln continental
Did you guys ever test the On-Stage function for the 3D Revel sound system? It's breathtakingly different sound stage that cannot be measured, but sounds so different from any other system out there.
Mark you need to review the 2020 Explorer ST which shares the same engine as the Aviator. It might answer address some of the issues you had with the 2020 Explorer you reviewed earlier.
Lincoln needs to create a rear-wheel drive sedan based on the Mustang.
jimdemetre agreed!
They aren't going to because Ford doesn't build cars anymore. The best thing you can hope for from Lincoln is a piece of shit Ford in a expensive suit. Oh wait.....
I’ve been watching your video under the Lincoln aviator with much interest,while having my black label being towed by flatbed truck they attached there tow hooks to the suspension arms front and rear. The rear arms both cracked one arm fully split they other partially. Were they connected to flange also were cracked. Air suspension may also have issues. In your opinion how critical is damage to these parts. Replacement part are both arms and subframe. I’m being told that subframe damage will show up on history report as a safety issue and will reduce value of car. Can you give me your thoughts.
Thanks in advance
Roger K
What happened to Turbowski? Is he sheltering in place?
He’s hiding under the wheel well of the Lincoln aviator, still in recluse from the days of the Chevy equinox like Gollum
my dad got one and damn is it gorgeous - he got the option with massage chairs. i drove it and it was incredible, but my ONLY gripe is that I prefer a traditional gear shift to the buttons in an automatic. A lot of cars are doing this now, so I might just have to get used to it, but for now my 2019 mazda 3 is perfect for me at my budget.
Would you recommend the Aviator or the Corsair for someone considering an American lux SUV? Wanting to spend max 52k?
That intro piano -- serious Final Fantasy X vibes.
Dan Kiezulas i though the same
I was wondering the roads of the test drive. I went through Crystal Lake on the Prairie Path yesterday and noticed the high voltage power lines. Also maybe greasy food and skin condition is related.
Even though I'm not a fan of american cars this is how a true Lincoln should be
What is the expected reliability of this?
That's a premium looking flieger you got there Mr Jack Singapore. Which one is it ?
Great review on another level. I wish this was available in the UK it is just what I want, everything here is hard sprung for a sporty feel. I will be looking at importing one.
Final thoughts music made me think of Final Fantasy. Keep up the good work guys.
I personally own a new Explorer ST and love it. I’m thinking your testing model was one of the ones they were getting that weren’t assembled well out of Chicago. Maybe I just lucked out. Who knows.
"perceived quality is good but attention to detail..." USA in a nutshell.
you win at the internet comments today.
It's already rusting on the underside, I'd like to see this thing in 5 years 😬
@@bcatz454 cheers mate :)
anyone who's offended by that comment would probably say "hey, at least we're better than the explorer."
entertainedbyidiots The new Explorer is overpriced. I have seen barely any new Explorers on the road, probably for that reason.
Can you do segments dedicated to "In the Shoppe". Too many people repeating stats and telling us biased driving impressions. Getting cars on the lift and giving consumers the truth is priceless!
Is this $90,000 in Canadian? Or is that also taking the Grand Touring model into count?
Is there a seat adjustment for the left or right nut too?
No, but one-legged jockeys have a comfortable spot in the Aviator.
They'll pay for a prosthetic implant.
Yes. That's the ASC
ARTICULATING SACK CONTROL
Hard to believe, but this will be the new architecture for the next Mustang. I can't wait to see how Ford will achieve this while keeping weight in check.
The profile...did the designers trace around a Range Rover and then just changed a few bits?? The RR must have been the benchmark for this. Looks good though, and probably more reliable than an RR.
What cta bus you been on wit leather?
Lincoln makes a lot of appealing vehicles these days. They cost quite a bit out the door but are bargains on the used market 👍
I am buying a used aviator next year. Plan to get the 2020 in 2022
Beautiful vehicle. It will be interesting to see how the build quality holds up.
“Living room on wheels” sounds like the description my dad has of the Chevy Caprice he had in the 80s.