+Garden RR The train is still one (not separated). What you see is one of the problems with the "mid train helpers". The whole train can change its length by 30cm to 40cm (see 3:55) because of the many couplers. The mid train helper has to regulate the power depending on the load of its train part (there are parts up and down the hill on the track). With one mid train helpers it's easy (see: ruclips.net/video/QZXmt42Xx6g/видео.html), but if you have two, the whole train tends to a free oscillation.
Not an expert, so. Don’t shoot me. But I think all your records have been broken? A British TV programme constructed a model railway that’s 70 miles long - from one coast of Scotland to the other. They then ran a train along it. It was pretty epic. It was called “The Biggest Little Railway”
John Cavender The LGB Loco has a scale from 1 : 22,5 to 1 : 25 (depending on the model). The cars (automobiles) have a 1 : 24 scale - it fits quite well. But it is bigger, than you are used to with Aristo or USA Trains (Locos 1 : 29 scale). They use cars (automobiles) with a 1 : 32 scale. Looks nice, but to smal.
Guys, not to sound rude here, but this is so bogus, it's funny! You don't have one train here, you have three trains, and I bet they aren't even together most the time. And why is the train going extremely slow? And why can we, the viewing public, only see 10% of your train at any given time? And how can your train jerk really hard and not come off the track? And how can you put heavy weighted cars behind lightweight cars and hot have problems with the train staying on the track? All of these things effect your train derailing, yet your train magically stays on the track! There are two situations that clearly shows you guys are not honest about what you are doing. Here is the first) When your Black Widow locomotives start moving for the first time, and slowly creep up to what is supposedly the end of your train - the hopper cars. Then, as the locomotives move slowly closer to the hopper cars, they jerk away really fast from the locomotives. How is this possible? Your locomotives are going extremely slow yet the hopper jerk away really fast. That clearly shows that the hoppers are not connected at this point to the train! That's because you guys have people behind the scene pulling, hooking, and moving the train cars manually behind the scenes where none of us watching the video can see. That's the only way those hopper cars could have moved away that fast, because the front end locomotives didn't make them do that And here is the second situation) at (11:42), your train comes to a complete stop, then jerks forward really hard. Tell me how your train stays on the track all through the layout? It's impossible - It doesn't stay on the tracks. Because at (11:45) you see one of your guys at the top of the screen, run off to do something really quick. What he did was put something back on the track, or adjust something that happened. But with almost all of your train blocked from the viewing public, we really can't see exactly what happened. I could go on and on with things that show this is not one single long train, all hooked together with no breaks, moving all by itself, without any help from you guys! If you guys want to claim any kind of record, do it right. Make sure at least 60% of your train visible, or have multiple synced cameras, so we, the viewing public can see what is happening. Have your train keep constant and realistic scale speeds that are believable; like 40 miles per hour. That's what a normal freight train would travel at, if not faster. Having your train go 5 miles per hour proves nothing! And once the train starts, it can't come unhooked or come off the track, nor can you touch it, or manipulate it. If you can pull that off, then you would have something believable! But right now, anyone with any kind of train knowledge knows what you have is just smoke and mirrors - a failed attempt at trying to do something big. Dennis
***** Hi, All 3 trains are coupled together - with selfmade power regulators. They measure the pull from the care in front of it to regulate the power for the Locos behind. Thats the "magic" :D and there are no "lightweight cars" - you just don't see what is in them or underneath ;) more info: www.gbforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=161
David Jaehnert What the heck is a selfmade power regulator? Are you telling us that you modified this train and it's not being pulled around the layout in normal ways? Are you kidding me? Every long train pulling record that I have seen is done with normal locomotive, normal cars, normal couplers and usually metal wheels. Nothing is modified. There are no add-ons to cheat the system David. Heck, if I could cheat the system with my trains, I could pull cars forever! But records are done like a real train would pull cars, not with selfmade add-ons and modification!And what do you mean you don't have lightweight cars in your train. Go to (11:30). Those LGB flatcars are extremely light! Especially with LGB couplers and plastic wheels. I have 35 of them, so I know. And then you placed gondolas with wood loads and hoppers with coal loads behind those flatcars. And even if the coal loads are not real, those hoppers are still heavier than the flatcars. There is no way your train would be stable that way. And there are several other weight situation in your train just like this.You want to try for a record? Then let people see your complete train being pulled around the layout, being pulled with standard locomotives, traveling at normal speeds (not 5 miles per hours) with nothing modified. If you do that, then you might have something. But knowing the dynamics and forces that trains go through, there is no way that train of yours in the video would ever be able to make it around your layout under normal circumstances; especially with the non-superelevated curves that you have on the back side of your layout. No Way! Tell you what. Next time you want to do this, let me know and I will fly over to Germany and see this for myself what you guys are doing. Then I can see if you are doing it correctly or cheating the system. Let me know!Dennis
***** relax - there are no "rules" ... we all have a nice time with our trains :) The "power regulator" is exactly, what a "real train" (with mid train helpers) would do. You have to adjust the pull depending on the load (depending on the track layout). All cars have metal wheels, and it took us a year and many test rides to get it right. Weight is not everything. More important is the weightl-lengh-ratio and the balance point. Many peoples have seen the hole train on this day. But if you don't believe it, I can't help you. But if you no longer mind modified trains, here is a nice video from some of our special trains. We do all this for fun - thats our motivation :D ruclips.net/video/s-7jcfxoQK4/видео.html
That's a small fortune rolling by!!!
Super. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N. Edit: It would have been 270 cars with a caboose. 🙂
you know it's hardcore when they don't even use a cart ramp to put the cars on the track... they do it all by hand! right on!
How long was your train ans why no caboose? Great job on putting it together...
Thanks for sharing,
JJ
Jose Silva G Scale Train was 102,5m (336 ft) Long. Caboose? ... good question - next time :D
David Jaehnert 336 ft...as long as my main line...lol
JJ
+Jose Silva G Scale hhk!
Amazing! How much do you think it weighs? Total wt. being pulled? Thanks for sharing.
@random video's Thank you. ❤it!
Gratulation nach Griesheim, ihr seit eine ganz tolle Truppe.
Weiter so !
Grüsse Manfred
Ramsteiner Kreuzhofbahner
Cool train and video too. I love G scale trains too.
Schon sehr erstaunlich, zu was die Gartenbahn in der Lage ist. So viele Wagen muß man ja auch erst einmal zusammenbekommen.
Here in my garage just bought 296 Lamborghini......
At 11:40 it sounds like the train separates and then one part catches up and runs into the back of another. What happened there?
+Garden RR The train is still one (not separated). What you see is one of the problems with the "mid train helpers". The whole train can change its length by 30cm to 40cm (see 3:55) because of the many couplers. The mid train helper has to regulate the power depending on the load of its train part (there are parts up and down the hill on the track). With one mid train helpers it's easy (see: ruclips.net/video/QZXmt42Xx6g/видео.html), but if you have two, the whole train tends to a free oscillation.
Where did you get all those cars
from various online shops
David Jaehnert thxs
For my own perspective are those 1/24 or 1/18 scale diecast cars on the flatdecks?
all 1/24 scale diecast cars on the flatdecks
Entgleisung bei 12:25, Holzbeladene Niederbordwagen. ;-)
Are the LGB engines at 8:44 custom?
ThePainTrain765 yes - these are modified LGB 2055 (White Pass & Ykon Diesellok # 110) - with a special power regulator in front
Oh hey what are you doing here
Awesome! Happy Railroading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how much it costs??
GhostRider4186 that's something even we don't want to know ;)
+GhostRider4186 G scale can be expensive. I already spent $1200 on my bedroom layout alone. But it's totally worth it if you love G scale.
Would have been neat to see a switching locomotive attach strings of cars to the end of the train.
next time ... but before this we need a larger layout ;)
3:22 lol the train is chasing its tail
Not an expert, so. Don’t shoot me. But I think all your records have been broken? A British TV programme constructed a model railway that’s 70 miles long - from one coast of Scotland to the other. They then ran a train along it. It was pretty epic. It was called “The Biggest Little Railway”
That was an O scale, not a G scale, and it was just the one locomotive engine running on gas. The track was long, not the actual train. 70 miles long.
And awesome looking train
The model automobiles look way out of scale with the train.
John Cavender The LGB Loco has a scale from 1 : 22,5 to 1 : 25 (depending on the model). The cars (automobiles) have a 1 : 24 scale - it fits quite well. But it is bigger, than you are used to with Aristo or USA Trains (Locos 1 : 29 scale). They use cars (automobiles) with a 1 : 32 scale. Looks nice, but to smal.
... Needs more steam...
thats only 4 locomotives not 8 since the second and third are b units
I've broken this record twice already and made videos documenting it.
Grat job! Wish we had a layout like yours. At least, we had more cars ;)
Yeah I'll give you that lol. Someday I'll have to throw on more and bring my car count up
so you didn't really break the record lol...if you didn't have more cars.
Hand Squeezed Lemons actually, Austin's cars were longer, so he did.
Impressive
Einmalig,,GROSSES LOB !!!
Guys, not to sound rude here, but this is so bogus, it's funny! You don't have one train here, you have three trains, and I bet they aren't even together most the time. And why is the train going extremely slow? And why can we, the viewing public, only see 10% of your train at any given time? And how can your train jerk really hard and not come off the track? And how can you put heavy weighted cars behind lightweight cars and hot have problems with the train staying on the track? All of these things effect your train derailing, yet your train magically stays on the track!
There are two situations that clearly shows you guys are not honest about what you are doing. Here is the first) When your Black Widow locomotives start moving for the first time, and slowly creep up to what is supposedly the end of your train - the hopper cars. Then, as the locomotives move slowly closer to the hopper cars, they jerk away really fast from the locomotives. How is this possible? Your locomotives are going extremely slow yet the hopper jerk away really fast. That clearly shows that the hoppers are not connected at this point to the train! That's because you guys have people behind the scene pulling, hooking, and moving the train cars manually behind the scenes where none of us watching the video can see. That's the only way those hopper cars could have moved away that fast, because the front end locomotives didn't make them do that
And here is the second situation) at (11:42), your train comes to a complete stop, then jerks forward really hard. Tell me how your train stays on the track all through the layout? It's impossible - It doesn't stay on the tracks. Because at (11:45) you see one of your guys at the top of the screen, run off to do something really quick. What he did was put something back on the track, or adjust something that happened. But with almost all of your train blocked from the viewing public, we really can't see exactly what happened. I could go on and on with things that show this is not one single long train, all hooked together with no breaks, moving all by itself, without any help from you guys!
If you guys want to claim any kind of record, do it right. Make sure at least 60% of your train visible, or have multiple synced cameras, so we, the viewing public can see what is happening. Have your train keep constant and realistic scale speeds that are believable; like 40 miles per hour. That's what a normal freight train would travel at, if not faster. Having your train go 5 miles per hour proves nothing! And once the train starts, it can't come unhooked or come off the track, nor can you touch it, or manipulate it. If you can pull that off, then you would have something believable! But right now, anyone with any kind of train knowledge knows what you have is just smoke and mirrors - a failed attempt at trying to do something big.
Dennis
***** Hi, All 3 trains are coupled together - with selfmade power regulators. They measure the pull from the care in front of it to regulate the power for the Locos behind. Thats the "magic" :D and there are no "lightweight cars" - you just don't see what is in them or underneath ;) more info: www.gbforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=161
David Jaehnert What the heck is a selfmade power regulator? Are you telling us that you modified this train and it's not being pulled around the layout in normal ways? Are you kidding me? Every long train pulling record that I have seen is done with normal locomotive, normal cars, normal couplers and usually metal wheels. Nothing is modified. There are no add-ons to cheat the system David. Heck, if I could cheat the system with my trains, I could pull cars forever! But records are done like a real train would pull cars, not with selfmade add-ons and modification!And what do you mean you don't have lightweight cars in your train. Go to (11:30). Those LGB flatcars are extremely light! Especially with LGB couplers and plastic wheels. I have 35 of them, so I know. And then you placed gondolas with wood loads and hoppers with coal loads behind those flatcars. And even if the coal loads are not real, those hoppers are still heavier than the flatcars. There is no way your train would be stable that way. And there are several other weight situation in your train just like this.You want to try for a record? Then let people see your complete train being pulled around the layout, being pulled with standard locomotives, traveling at normal speeds (not 5 miles per hours) with nothing modified. If you do that, then you might have something. But knowing the dynamics and forces that trains go through, there is no way that train of yours in the video would ever be able to make it around your layout under normal circumstances; especially with the non-superelevated curves that you have on the back side of your layout. No Way! Tell you what. Next time you want to do this, let me know and I will fly over to Germany and see this for myself what you guys are doing. Then I can see if you are doing it correctly or cheating the system. Let me know!Dennis
***** relax - there are no "rules" ... we all have a nice time with our trains :) The "power regulator" is exactly, what a "real train" (with mid train helpers) would do. You have to adjust the pull depending on the load (depending on the track layout). All cars have metal wheels, and it took us a year and many test rides to get it right. Weight is not everything. More important is the weightl-lengh-ratio and the balance point. Many peoples have seen the hole train on this day. But if you don't believe it, I can't help you. But if you no longer mind modified trains, here is a nice video from some of our special trains. We do all this for fun - thats our motivation :D ruclips.net/video/s-7jcfxoQK4/видео.html