Is GARTH DAYBELL telling the truth? Who REALLY discovered Tammy's body? (McKay Abegglen on rebuttal)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Garth Daybell's account of how he learned Tammy died maybe fits a little too well with Chad Daybell's prepper blog post published a few weeks after Tammy's death. On rebuttal, Garth's co-worker MacKay Abegglen gave bombshell testimony that - just a week after her death - Garth said that HE discovered the body and that Chad was missing from the scene. At this time, we still don't know if Garth is going to be called back to clarify or come clean, so for now we're faced with the puzzle of reconciling these two versions of how Tammy's body was discovered.
I so wish these kids would open their eyes to the truth and see their dad as he really is. He took their mother away from them. He is the reason they are having to go through this trial and forcing them to lie. He was part of murdering kids and allowing them to be buried on their property.
Oh course hes not telling the truth. His freind from work had no reason to lie, garth has one big reason his fathers freedom.
Both enema and girth lied under oath
@@TnSn5Good one. Haha
Agreed.
I believe his first account of finding his Mother*frozen on the ground", according to his friend he couldn't find his Dad. Chad grabbed the phone and changed the story from that point on.
Dumbest thing Chad did. was marry two weeks later. That alone made him look guilty
And then he started introducing everyone to her because he was so proud of being with someone like her. What a doofus
No kidding... hes been his own worst enemy
I would argue the dumbest thing Chad did was to pretend to speak to God, having an affair, and then murdering 3 people/conspiring on a 4th, and probably coercing the 5th into suicide. Marrying his AP immediately after murdering his wife is just another moronic act in a string full of evil stupidity
@@jaynet5756And saying she was an empty nester. He sure isn’t the brightest bulb in the box in many respects.
Honestly he sucks at this
Didn't Garth help his mom in the garden? Weren't they close? This will kill his conscience eventually 😢. Way to go Chad. Sacrifice your children for your own desire.
Well, 'close' in an enmeshed family where emotion is suppressed is going to mean something different to them than it does to us. It's all relative and requires some context in this case.
@@m0L3ify But don't you think there's basic, instinctual love between a child and its parent.? I mean on a very basic level. From what I've discovered in other videos / interviews about Tammy in her youth, she was feisty and perhaps much more balanced than Chad. So I would hope that some of that balance would flow into her relationship with Garth. I guess only Garth knows.
I personally worry for his future mental health. But we're only seeing it from the outside and only via the available information.
great comment.
@@KimtheElder Yes, instinctual love exists for sure, but bonding doesn't always happen and attachment disorders are a real thing. I don't doubt Tammy loved her kids, but I think Chad interfered in their relationship whenever he could. He is very controlling.
@@m0L3ify that's a very good point and as a mother, it absolutely breaks my heart. By all the accounts of so many witnesses, Tammy was just a wonderful person and had great love for people children and animals. So there's no doubt she loved her children even more. It's just all so tragic and unnecessary
There’s a very huge inconsistency here is that Chad said she was vomiting and she was sick and yet Garth is saying nothing but a normal night without making any reference to his mom feeling sick or ill or throwing up etc. there are so many holes in this story, it’s pathetic and the state needs to tie that in and closing arguments along with a plethora of everything else The other big issue is that they waited so long to call 911 if they found her at one in the morning and she was dead. Why don’t you call 911 right away
Chad first said that he woke up around 6:00 am and found Tammy dead, that it was clear she had been dead for several hours, had a peaceful serene look on her face with a slight smile. Lots of different stories going around on her death.
Quarter pounder burger when she felt sick? Hmmm? and nothing but nuts and potato ( French fries) in her stomach?
@sharongauss9298 Garth should have listened to the testimonials he would have known she had French fries he actually could have listened! But no would not want to know what the evidence against their patriarch!!!
Chad has revealed just how low and vile he really is, by throwing even his own children under the bus! That there's only one person that he's capable of caring about and thats himself.
Oh, that every parent could understand that children come from a premortal experience and have possibilities that often are far beyond what we might expect. We should spare no effort to help our children reach their full potential. Is it any wonder that Jesus brought the little children unto himself to teach and bless them? He said, “Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me.” Mark 9:37 He also said, “Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.” Matt. 18:14
Chad definitely controlling his children. He controlled Tammy, Emma worked with her mom, went to all exercise classes with her. He made sure Tammy always had Emma with her. He is an evil manipulator, murderer and liar. Guilty. The thing is when you tell the truth you don't need to remember what you said ! The kids testimony just made prosecution's job so much easier.
In Heather Daybell's interview with Hidden True Crime, she said Chad called Garth their most difficult child, and Heather thought that was bizarre because she described Garth as a great kid. A great kid who's never been able to please his father is going to be easily manipulated.
Chad was probably jealous of Garth because Garth and Tami were so close
The Daybell kids were not credible at all in my opinion. The daughter said shes the one who searched the winds for the day they burned Tylee, but in the questions leading up to that, she wasnt good with direction and didnt know north from south.
Also, dead people dont roll out of bed. His conversation with Mackay was crucial because it was just one week from his mothers death, before he knew to lie or what the story was. I believe Mackay 100%. Chad was probably doropping Alex off at the church after the murder
The timeline with that just doesn’t add up because Alex’s phone pinged driving south around 11:30 and Garth didn’t get home around 1 am. I think the phrase “he didn’t know where his dad was” was because Chad was up in the “cozy cone” (ie not in the room or the main part of the house.) I think Garth went looking for his dad after and his dad probably came in the room and made up some story as to how they couldn’t call 911 yet because the police would believe Garth killed her or some other manipulation.
Emma will do anything for her daddy. She was involved. 1. Checked the wind direction in her father's computer day before Tylee was burnt. Said it was for a social gathering at her home. (At school so no social event on a school night. (Plus she doesn't have any friends!) 2. Wasn't alarmed that her father was in handcuffs. Nor him telling her he wouldn't be home ever again. No asking why. 3. Not shocked nor upset that there was human remains in backyard. What a piece of work she is. Can you imagine her teaching one of your children with her weird beliefs. I have heard parents at her school don't want her there at all. The pro Chad/Emma group of teachers and staff would be very few and everyone has probably been walking in egg shells. The defiant and blunt Emma we saw in the witness box would be now cold shouldering all the staff and teachers who testified on behalf of Tammy. I believe Garth definitely found her. However I believe Chad left Tammy's bedside lamp on for Garth to look in and speak to his mother. Otherwise why would Garth see his mother lying deceased if the room was pitch black.
@user-sn4bp6rp7m I've heard that Emma isn't employed at that school district any more. Not sure if she's working or where she is working. It's such a small community in Rexburg- who knows where she's at now.
Wherever Chad was- it's clear he set up the scene so his son would find his mother. How horrible is that? It will sit with Garth for the rest of his life and hopefully some day he realizes what Chad did to his mother and to him
Emma is especially disturbed in my opinion. I would never allow her to teach my children!
@@FearIsaLiarHer behavior when she pulled up behind that reporter in her car spoke volumes about her maturity level, and her delusional attitude about the case. Who does that when their own mother dies under suspicious circumstances and authorities are investigating?! And she being a teacher, someone respected in the community?
The way Garth’s pitch increases at the end of each answer means he is hoping everyone buys it, it’s almost as he is answering with a question.
Both Garth and Emma’s way of speaking is so off, the syntax and cadence is off and robotic and childish
Yeah I picked up on that too.
Weird people
I think Garth wants justice for his mother but knows the consequences of crossing his father, who, with his lawyer, is putting tremendous pressure on him to “tell the story” that exonerates his father. What a horrible position to be in. Only the truth will set you free, son.
Chad telling Emma "that's what I needed you to say" about her moving back into the house when he was getting arrested says a lot. They were probably raised to be mouthpieces for their dad.
I had to stand up to my father when I was 15 when he was beating my mother. If she'd turned up dead, all of a sudden, you can believe I'd get the truth out of my dad. I would've rather moved out of town, and changed my name, instead of helping my dad get away with it and disrespecting my mother. Nobody in that community will ever let this die down. The kids can resurrect their own souls by speaking the truth.3.
Garth and Emma both know what happens to dark children
GARTH IS LYING, HE IS TRYING TO HELP HIS FATHER. CHAD YOU ARE A STON COLD CRIMINAL.
Did police check Garth’s RUclips history? Was he watching RUclips until 3 am? Seems like it would’ve been easy to verify that part of his story.
Idk how many judges would sign that subpoena tbh
Bottom line. Garth and Emma did not have to be defense witnesses. They are protecting their father’s crimes against women and children and therefore, should be considered co-conspirators.
if Garth collaborated or assisted his father in staging the scene of Tammy being discovered after "a normal night," then he is, by definition, an accessory. But I think the state would rather be somewhat nice to him & not charge him, on the off chance he might some day come clean and offer some cooperation.
John Prior making comments about Tammys McDonald's meal and smirking about it being healthy !! How rude, Prior very clearly doesn't eat healthily .
He took a plea deal after a young lady accused him of sexual attack...he pled down to assault.
Sadly, Chad has brainwashed his kids so much that even as adults they have willingly relinquished their personal integrity and critical thinking skills for their father’s fantasies. Thus, they will lie as needed. The rest of us will have to appropriately mourn their mother. Hopefully this jury will see through all the smoke and mirrors Prior threw up (I.e., vomited) and find Chad guilty, regardless of whether he gets life w/out parole (which I suspect would be the case) or death. Then Tammy can rest in peace with our blessings, if not those of her own misguided children.
They had already relinquished their integrity and critical thinking skills in the Mormon church. They were easy targets. Chad got revelation, which all Mormons are taught they can do, and his was special Revelation. When I was a member t he rest of us were left with impressions and feelings and thoughts that we attributed to God's spirit. But not chad. He made himself out to be like a side prophet. So the kids believed and followed their patriarch.
The only problem, they forgot that rule, obedience to the leaders of the Mormon LDS church is the only obedience that counts to get you to heaven, with your family.
Garth and Emma are no longer kids. Joe Murray wasn't raised by Chad. They all have been out of Chad's immediate reach for four years now. At some point despite feeling sorry for their childhoods it is time to hold them accountable. They are willing participants and continue to follow Chad's orders. Emma and Joe are who I would be most concerned with and what they're going to do when Chad is convicted.
First comment ❤ Nothing the defense brought forward would change my mind as a juror . GUILTY. Notice the upflextion in his answers as if he isn’t sure. Both Emma and and Garth said everything needed for Chad not to testify. The issue is everyone can tell they were lying. They had two Grand Juries with Garth as they knew there were lies.
I love how prior made it a point to tell the jury that he didn’t coach either kid. Which I’ve never heard an attorney claim that which makes me think they were heavily coached.
I'm sure the defense would LOVE to offer more credible testimony, but it's checkmate.... If Garth differs from Chad's blog, then the blog could come in as impeachment evidence. Just like Prior might like to show the raccoon text to Garth, but he can't afford to have Garth see evidence that makes Chad look like a monster.
He didn’t coach them, Chad did from jail. Emma talks to him every day. Would love to hear those conversations.
@@user-Tn2Dn i would love to hear those jail calls
@@pdquestions7673But in the first post Chad made about Tammy’s death, he said he woke up around 6:00 am and found Tammy dead. It was clear she had been dead for several hours that she had a peaceful, serene look on her face a slight smile. Then Garth says he heard a thud and his dad yelled for him, he went in the bedroom to see his mother had fallen half off the bed with her legs tangled in the bedding. Now we hear a totally different story from Garth’s co-worker.
@@pdquestions7673I wonder if the prosecution has a copy of what Chad first claimed? No where in that post did he say she was off the bed.
I love how you tease out Garth’s exhaustion and dislike of Prior’s sham defense. I did not realize there was that gaping difference between Garth and Emma. Your explanation - that he is compromised into helping by a legal “checkmate” due to his discovery of his mother and subsequent inaction, putting him at jeopardy of being accessory to murder - is so crucial. Thank you for that! I also really like how you pointed out how he refused to answer according to how he must have been coached, and how he conveyed the kindness of character in his mother by her last words to him, “goodnight, I’ll see you in the morning, I’ll let you sleep in.”
I absolute believe Mr Abegglen’s testimony- how often, in his young life, has a coworker friend come up and told him he found his cold dead mother - not very often I should think! A conversation he’d more than likely remember!
Also, I can’t think of any reason he would have had to lie. He seemed very calm and matter of fact.
He actually repeated Garth’s story about Tammy to his parents later that same night
I feel for Tammy. Her own children turned against her. Living with Chad must have been horrible.
I agree that not even one of her 5 children stood for her! It's sickening! Her parents' aunt and sister have shown more compassion, wanting the truth! None of her kids have listened to any of the evidence! There's no wonder she was depressed! She never felt loved...
Living with Chad after he fell in love with Lori must have been even worse. Chad’s coldness even came through his text with Lori, talking about making children scream. Poor Tammy. She lived in that house for weeks while the children were buried in her backyard. How horrified she would have been had she known.
Just love the way you analyze the court findings excellent. Thank you
thanks a bunch... and, of course, I'm also just guessing... In the end, it would be great for a family member to just come clean, but I don't think they want to assist the court in tagging their dad w a death sentence. let him maybe get a death sentence, but not with their help (they're probably thinking). But it's sad how the kids really don't want to know the truth.
This is why i subscribe to you. Just great analysis
I do 100% believe Chad used some type of undetectable poison
When you’re going to get McDonald’s for the family, why in the hell does it matter what Tammy ordered? (I mean, I get why it’s important in this case because we don’t even believe Tammy ate McDonald’s) but Garth said he bought food for BOTH his parents and himself. I didn’t hear him say, “I went out and picked up my mom some McDonald’s because she loved McDonalds” or “Me and my dad liked to try and eat healthy but my mom LOVED McDonald’s.” The only “unhealthy McDonalds” shade Pryor is throwing is at Tammy, the dead person, and it’s sick and RIDICULOUS. Garth and Chad also (apparently) ate McDonalds that night and they didn’t die.
for Chad (the translated being) McDonalds was ok, but for Tammy, it was just more evidence of how unhealthy she was. I don't think the jury's going to respond well to that at all.
why would Mackay lie? And his version matches Garth's call to 911.
I'm 100% sure MacKay is telling the truth. We just don't know for sure if Garth told him the whole truth. Although I am leaning towards yes.
@@pdquestions7673I’m so glad to hear you say this. I’ve been saying the same, but it’s been misconstrued that I am saying Mackay was untruthful. Definitely not what I think, but I do question if what Garth told him was the actual truth. I have reason to doubt it. I can’t get past the pink foam that was reported. I think he would comment on that before mentioning her lips were blue. It’s obvious when Garth called 911 he wasn’t reporting it the way Chad wanted,the confused “I don’t know” to Chad immediately taking the phone from him.
YES! You mention the pink foam. I just got to that part of your video.
@@gigib8849 yes, at this point, we have - honestly - more questions than answers. What I'd really like is for Garth to start to come clean.
@@gigib8849I think Garth would tell someone like Mackay the truth for a couple reasons. 1. It was right after her death before anything was being investigated so I’m sure he needed to get something off his chest and didn’t think it would lead to any deeper thought and 2. Because the whole family is so enmeshed and cult-like I could see Garth being in distress and not being able to share details like that in fear of being cut off or excommunicated.
Mackay seems like a laid back chill dude and he and Garth weren’t besties. I think it’s just the level of distance for Garth to open up just a little rather than how he feels he has to act around his sister, the daddy’s girl, the golden child.
“As I passed the bedroom I heard my father snoring?? “ Is he asking or telling?
He is full of it.
Every answer they give is in a sing songy question form. Emma kind of talked the same.
It’s like when Joe Murray (Emma’s husband) was on the stand and followed almost everything with “I think” or “maybe.” Uhhhh, dude, wouldn’t you KNOW these things if they were FACT?
According to Heather Daybell: I do believe that Garth was coerced into coming to Rexburg, because I have that from different family sources that he was at UVU at Orem in Utah living in an apartment and he was doing well, he was happy there. His dad, again this is through family members, that his dad told him that he had dark spirits or demons attached to him, that he couldn't get rid of unless he moved to Rexburg. That's how he got him to move and that Garth was very upset about that, sent and tried to get a blessing from his grandpa Douglas and to help him be okay, and that kid moved to Rexburg.
So sad
😢
Garth never said what he got for his mother at McDonalds. He only stated what her favorite meal was (knowing hamburger meat was not found during autopsy).
This Daybell clan, especially the 'Children of the Corn' children....come off as pathological and skilled liars. They lie by omission.
You're way too kind to Garth! I think Garth and Emma might've been involved. Mel Gibb and her hubby too.
Yes! Melanie Palowski is also involved. Thankfully, the plot to murder her ex-husband failed.
Don't forget Zulema !
For Garth to go into his mother's bedroom at 1ish in the morning is strange. The room would have been in complete dark as there is no filtered street lights coming through. I believe Chad left Tammy's BEDROOM LIGHT on. Chad didn't sleep in the bedroom at all. He was texting Lori heaps of times during the night..
Devout Mormons believe in obeying the laws of the land. Justifying lying would be outside mainstream LDS teachings.
yeah, I'm not suggesting they are mainstream....
yah but using the term Mormon is naturally going to be assumed to be about all Mormons including mainstream ones.
@@hamletfan8 i can be more careful to clarify that
Devout mormons believe in rigorously obeying their patriarchal power hierarchy.
The noise was probably Alex leaving
Chad wasn’t home because he was driving alex cox back to the chapel down the road. Alex and Chad murdered Tammy. Thats how the marks got on her arm. Cell phone records show alex was at that chapel 1 mile away
I agree that Alex assisted, for sure. I just don't think Chad would risk being away from the house that long, because if Garth came home he would very likely just call 911. I don't Chad could risk that, ,but of course I'm just offering my best guess.
I think the same!!!! Just wrote a similar comment so glad to know others conclude this too!
@@pdquestions7673dude buried 2 kids in his own backyard. Used his own tools to dismember Tylee... Chad doesn't believe in risk. He was so full of himself
@@pdquestions7673also, Alex’s phone was driving south and to the hotel he stayed at that night at around 11:30 pm and Garth got home around 1 am. So the timing doesn’t add up.
@@amelia_rose_333 i think its possible & realistic that she was already dead for a couple of hours when Garth got home.
Mackay also told his parents what Garth told him. So they can testify to that story too
Hearsay
The Moral Injury occurring in this case is unfathomable. Chad has forced his children to live in Cognitive-Dissonance for so long, they either cannot discern truth, or have found a way to cope with the dystopian contradictory belief systems of their father vs the actual reality in which we all inhabit.
Maybe Chad was gone because he gave Alex a lift back to his vehicle parked at the church. Garth would have noticed his dad’s car was gone when he got home from work
Alex went to a hotel that night even though he lived in the same town, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. Why get a hotel room when you can just go home? Did Chad go with him? I don't think Alex walked to Chad's house because his car was 2.6 miles away, and doing the math on when he got the call from Chad and when he was back on the highway means he would have had to turn around and head right back to the church the moment he arrived at Chad's if he was walking. It's more likely he turned his phone off and drove to Chad's. That would give him an hour to commit the murder before leaving, rather than a minute or two at best (or negative 11 minutes by my calculations.) So Alex wouldn't need a ride back to the church. But if Chad went to the hotel, the next question is why? Why that location? What were they doing? And if Chad wasn't home, why didn't Garth call 911 the moment he found his mom? Why did they both wait until 6am? I have so many questions after this testimony.
@@m0L3ify I suspect Chad arrived home shortly after Garth found Tammy. He wasn’t expecting Garth home so quickly. Therefore he was able to delay the 911 call while he sold Garth a story. On the 911 call Garth screws up and Chad takes over the call. Why Alex went to a hotel room is still a mystery but Garth got home earlier than expected, IMO, so Chad had some scrambling to do. He may not have wanted the authorities to know that he slept up in the cozy cone and that they no longer shared a bedroom.
@@m0L3ify I think Alex got the hotel room to wash off Tammy’s dna from his body & dispose of Alex’s clothes. At that time, chad & Alex didn’t know that the “she died in her sleep naturally” story would be believed, so they wouldn’t be able to explain Tammy’s dna being found in Alex’s home/condo, because Tammy had never been to Alex’s home.
@@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox Great theory!
@@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox: I thought so too!
That makes total sense that Garth was pressured by the defense to lie. I also wonder if Chad convinced Garth not to call 911 right away and make up a story because he told him he would be blamed for her death.
Just realized how much a young Chad is a dead ringer for BEAVIS IRL!!
and he laughs like Beavis, lol, when police aren't searching his yard..
Garth's response of ''depends'' to Prior's question 'a healthy meal!' does indeed show the contrast between Emma and Garth. Poor Garth. what a mess 😥
he's just not "all in" w this plan of smearing his mom. He's barely going along w it.
I do feel empty for him. Emma not at all.
@@pdquestions7673That’s likely why Chad barely looked at Garth as his son testified. His reaction to Emma is quite different.
I'm so glad this guy was a witness he clarified what Garth was originally selling as the real story when he called 911 and said he found his mother and Chad freaked out and took the phone off him. The truth is now clear this witness has confirmed Garth's first version that he told 911 before Chad convinced him to lie.
Chad said Tammy was smiling? I never heard this. But he also said she was hanging off the bed. Smiling? Jesus. What a horrific image that is!
Horror movie, a pantomine!
you can look up Chad's blog in the Avow prepper website... I think it's been recopied in other places. It was published by local newspapers, Deseret news / east idaho
Just look at chub's face when he is asked by the reporter, Nate, with east Idaho news, "What happened to Tammy, Chad ?" A dark side eye from that guy.
Oh yeah.. i caught that & it gave me a shiver
And John Prior makes it a point for them to both say they were not coached. Sounds suspect. If he didn’t coach them why make that point? I saw right through that.
Just because Prior didn't coach the kids doesn't mean Chad didnt.
whenever Prior makes a point of something (like, "you KNOW it was a paintball gun"), that's exactly when we can start doubting, lol
No one will ever know the truth 😔 only the killers & people around them as their criminal puppets.
Or Chad was driving Alex back to his car at the church
could be, but that would have been super risky to leave Tammy alone...
been bingeing your channel the last few days and happy to see a new video today. thanks for your analysis and perspective.
thanks :-)
One simple thing makes McKay's testimony more believable. The week after Tammy died Garth didn't know he'd be his father's alibi to his mother's murder. This is before Garth knew anything.
Emma on the other hand knew everything. When she knew is the real question?
agreed
Brilliant analysis as usual!
thanks :-) I really appreciate your comments :-)
MacKay Abegglen also seems like a good Mormon young man who has no reason to lie. Garth has told many conflicting stories and should be held accountable. Garth’s one rebellious comment was that he believes in evolution, which I thought was sad.
Again, a very thoughtful & intriguing conversation regarding what we all find so challenging in a search for the truth!
thanks, I appreciate that :-)
Hello! I have been on this case since day one. I simply want to say thank you for presenting your perspective. It is good 👍
Thanks a bunch 😁😁😁😁
I think it’s unusual that Garth saw their forms in the bed. I always sleep with my door closed. Everyone I know sleeps with their door closed. I don’t believe that’s what he saw. I would think some jurors would question that too
good point
My husband and I sleep with our door open. Even though my son is 21, I want to hear what’s going on in the house. I lived in a disturbing household as a kid which seriously affects my nighttime habits.
ALWAYS SLEEP WITH THE DOOR CLOSED
I could never sleep with the door open when my adult kids are in the house.
@@helencook4248 lol
I think it was huge Garth said raccoons are always buried behind shed not pet cemetery.that raccoon text means he was there and did it or was covering the fresh grave Alex dug meaning Chad knew about it.
Thats a brilliant theory at 20 minutes in about what could have happened.
thanks :-) obviously, we're all just guessing... What we really need is for a family member to come clean, but I just don't think they're ready to assist the state in tagging a death sentence on their dad...
On the witness stand Garths work friend McKay helped clarify the truth regarding who found Tammy. The numerous stories Garth put out there from his 911 call, to the 48 Hrs interview and finally the version Chad sold him, which Prior convinced him to go with to avoid perjury, impeachment and/or accessory after the fact, made finding the truth at first a challenge as Garth was meant to be very close to Tammy. Remember that before getting up on the witness stand both Chad and Prior intentionally kept Garth isolated from most of the facts of this case including those damning texts as they too were concerned, if anyone, he would be most likely to flip on them.
While Garth did give the 911 operator and Mackay both sanitised versions of the event by omitting the ghastly pink foam from the narrative one could argue this came down to Garth's desire to have others see Tammy at the end of her life more at peace than having been in distress and suffering in her final moments.
Garth wanted Tammy perceived as a happily married women passing of natural causes in her sleep in the marital bed beside her husband and not a woman alone from a broken home so he agreed to go along with Chads plan and narrative. Unfortunately, this meant Garth participated in the staging of his mother without realising in that moment he had now become an accessory after the fact.
Immediately the shock of finding his mother deceased Garth was easy prey for Chad. Chad likely gave Garth a version he knew would pull him in as would best honour how Tammy would be perceived by the LDS community after her death knowing Garth was close to Tammy and clearly, he bought it.
Chad acted out of pure instinct to distance himself from Tammy just as Garth pulled in from work as he did not want to be seen with the body when Garth discovered it. He allowed Garth to find her but remained close walking in shortly after as he knew Garth would want to call 911 if he didn't.
Heather Daybell (Chad's brother Matt's wife) said Garth and Tammy were very close and that of all the Daybell kids he was the one she was most concerned for in all this.
If Garth was so close to Tammy, why would he not feel bad to lie in court? Because Chad put Garth in a position where he now had to save himself from prosecution as an accessory after the fact. He clearly felt able to justify having to perjure himself possibly due to his devout Mormon beliefs that he was standing in front of a gentile court system which matters little in the grander scale of accountability to them.
Thanks DP you have made the most sense of putting together how all the evidence, how the LDS fits into it, how the witness statements fit and how the legal system processes it all.
Emma and her husband,Josh ,may be involved in this with Chad and Lori. Garth seems to be a kinder soul. This must have taken a huge toll on him. He seemed rehearsed but sad. It would be a lot to accept that your father was involved with murders of children and your mother.
Emma tried to introduce the thought if sleep apnea. Yet Garth was sure it was his father snoring, like he never heard his mother to snore. Usually people with sleep apnea do not sleep that quietly
Newbie here, glad I found your channel. What is a bit puzzling to me is, when Garth found his mother, why did he not pull out his phone right then and there, why would he go looking for his dad first? I dont know, that is just curious to me. Thank's for the video.
Chad is a control freak. Nobody in his family were allowed to act on their own without his say first.
Agree, most ppl would grab their phone & call 911 while screaming to others in the house to come. Im sure every move they made had to be ok'ed by their dad.
Its really sad that Tammy spent her life taking care of Chad & her kids & even in death she was overlooked & bypassed by Chad's wants & needs.
I wish they'd call Garth back & he'd tell exactly what happened that night...
that's why I think Chad was right there and just appeared before Garth could pick up a phone
What's crazy is that Lindsay Blake, when questioning McKay, mentioned that Garth said this in front of 3 people total, including Garth's new wife..
that's important... One day, I just wish one or more of Chad's children would come clean and help us understand what really happened here.
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This is a huge deal if there is a possibility of Garth becoming an accessory to this murder . Chad with murders and all the lying and implicitly of involving his own children makes him even more diabolical than we know he already is.
Well, given how soft and passive the prosecution has been, I really doubt they'll bring charges against Garth. It may happen after Chad is convicted, but I kind of doubt it. Maybe in another state like Texas or Florida, but I just don't see it happening here.
I strongly believe Chad was taking Alex to his car when Garth arrived. But returned in right after Garth arrived.
If Garth did find Tammy’s body immediately after he arrived home from work, chad probably spent the next few hours trying to convince Garth to lie & coached Garth what to say on the 911 call & to law enforcement. Probably Garth was so shocked & distraught by his mother’s sudden unexplainable death, he wasn’t easy to coach. He probably needed to be consoled first. I’m sure it wasn’t an easy job for chad to coach/convince a very confused & upset son. That explains the delay before calling 911
My personal opinion is Garth finds his mom, and then Chad appears. I think Chad starts prophesying about Tammy's death as Gods purpose. I think for even hours perhaps that Chad offers blessings and feeds Garth full of prophetic words that gives Garth reasons why his mom had to die to carry on God's plan for his father.
very possible... and it fits the actual scene
I feel so sorry for Garth, I think he loved his mom but his dad has him in a stokehold.
i think so
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Really adept analysis!Garth rationalizing perjury in a 'gentile/apostate' court system is very probable to me. My reaction to both Emma & Garth was they were rehearsed & not truthful. I hope I'm seeing clearly & not reacting with confirmational bias.
I know, and I try to check myself for that too. In the end, it will be interesting to see if Garth is called back and comes clean w a more clarifying testimony. That said, I think the kids know that Chad's exposed to a death sentence, and maybe they realize that... but they don't want to serve as any assistance to their dad getting such a sentence. It may be that simple. But I can't wait to see if Garth isn't called back to clarify his testimony.
@@pdquestions7673 maybe after he's found guilty and sentenced then they'll be free to ............... think clearly. Their thoughts won't convict their father and they won't be shamed and blamed and excluded for just thinking.
I think that Chad drove to the church and took Alex and drove home. They murdered Tammy, drove Alex back to the church and in the meantime Garth found his mom.
You said it perfectly, these adult children seem to believe that they are above the "gentile justice system" LDS has its own separatist law and they take care of their own! Having married into a mormon family that is absolute truth. Garth is protecting his father from the death penalty
Garth being tired of Prior is ludicrous bc he’s trying to save Garth’s father from the worst possible verdict & instead he should be FED up with his father for being who he really is. Garth by not acknowledging who his father really is means he’s fantasy bonded to his father which a totally bogus bond that doesn’t exist whatsoever. The enmeshment distorts the reality of who & what these family members really are.
i think Garth is resisting Chad more than Emma, but I think he's still trapped in a very deep family system.
I think the powerful part of Mackay's testimony is the fact that when he got home that evening, he told HIS PARENTS what Garth said. This is very important. It's corraberates MacKay's version since he quickly told them. I know they can't testify, but it lends a huge amount of credibility to his testimony. And I also think it was brilliant of the State to HOLD ON to this testimony all these years - knowing that Garth would lie. It's really impressive. Just like the jail house call on the 8th of June 2020 was such a secret!
Agreed
What i find crazy is there are so many lies, perjuring yourself .. as two of the children have clearly done.. will possibly end with them going to jail themselves. Knowing that Emma speaks to her father daily is very disturbing.. she is coached by him and she takes it back to the other kids.. and makes them practice every single day.. I truly wish someone would say to any of the kids.. this is not god like behavior.. your mother is watching and this won’t be good for you.. no matter what there father says.. they need to be honest and ask there bishops of the wards they go too.. for help cause there dad is sick.
I really appreciate your analyses and I thank you for them. The idea of Chad going in hiding is brilliant!
Or… Chad was coming back from dropping off Alex at the church….
So Garth got up around 6 am to work his day job, went to his 2nd job until midnight, and played video games until 3 am? Wow, long day.
Mormons/LDS are just regular citizens and we respect the justice system. There is no Mormon justice system and gentile justice system... there is just the justice system. In fact, in our Articles of Faith it states, "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law."
I should be more careful. Im trying to imagine what the Daybell kids are thinking, and with the idea that they may not be mainstream. But i should clarify that better.
In the book by that woman who escaped from Warren Jeff's polygamous town, she describes being raised on the language of "Gentiles" as enemy apostates who should be defied at every opportunity.
@@stugrant01 Warren Jeff's is FLDS not mainstream LDS. We are just regular people.
@@hamletfan8 LDS adherents revere Brigham Young and Josheph Smith who have writings that validate most of the notorious offshoot Mormon "prophets" like Chad Daybell and Warren Jeffs, etc.
@@stugrant01 I am LDS so I'm aware. But the main church is nothing like Chad Daybell or the FLDS.
Great content!! I love the way you break down clips with your most excellent commentary. Thank you!
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I think Garth is going to need some heavy therapy someday. It’s going to all come down on him hard, because he seems to have a conscience. Kinda feel for him😢
Notice the voice inflection when he answers Pryor. NO inflection with Ms.Blake. Very telling.
Why does every question these Daybell kids answer, sound like another question instead of an answer? I hate that they sound just like Chad.
I find the tentative way they speak disturbing and creepy. Part of that is that they sound a lot like Chad and we know how Chad used his language for harm.
Chad is a despicable human being! How he is dragging his children into this is so gross.. he could give them peace by just admitting that he went nuts for this woman and killed for her.. so they could begin their healing… they’ll never heal living this lie….
Tammy could have done better than Chad. Rest in Peace Tammy. ❤
I absolutely love your recaps!
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I'd have to say Chad was running Alex back to the church when Garth found Tammy.
We've had testimony that the cozy cone was soundproof, so Chad couldn't have heard Tammy coughing if one was in one location and the other in the bedroom.
Interesting. I guess i see it as very risky that Chad would take the risk of leaving Tammy's body alone... knowing Gsrth was coming home & knowing he'd likely call 911...
So when he told the friend what happened it was about a week after the murder. They thought they were off scott free after she was buried. They were not concerned until the exhumation 2 weeks later. 👀
I agree with your analysis. Emma to me seemed very eager to testify whereas Garth seems to not feel comfortable about answering any questions! I also agree with about Tammy being poisoned. They needed 2 people to restrain her while giving her the poison. also Chad was not home because he was taking Alex back to missionary about 2 miles away. Chad had his cell phone turned off..whereas Alex did not..this would put Alex at the crime scence, clearing chad. Love your videos..thank you sir!
Right -- the foam and the towels never mentioned by Garth. And the hours between when Garth got home and 911 was called. And I bet you are right about Chad being the coward staging a "normal night."
I really like your analysis.
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These kids emote nothingness. It’s an emptiness like nothing I have ever seen. Coached? This is way deeper, imo. They are brainwashed. Weird cult brainwashed. Great video though:)
Agree. It's like they think they have no identity without Chad. If he is gone they are nothing but if they woke up it would be best. They have been conditioned by their parents their whole life to believe and obey Chad.
Overall this is a no-brainer for the jury. Garth's friend has no motive to lie. Let's say Garth lied to his friend about when he discovered his mom. That doesn't make any sense either. I'm quite sure the prosecution is looking into charges on these two children. I'll be so happy when this is all over!
Chad was probably outside helping Alex get away when Garth came home??
Interesting analysis, thanks
I guess for me the bottom line is, there are three people living in the house..One has been killed, one doesn't have gumption or motive and the other has $430,000 reasons plus a Goddess waiting for him. Premeditated murder as far as I'm concerned.. Like everyone here, I love trying to piece together how it all went down. Absolutely love your theories. Once lover boy is safely behind bars, hopefully truths,will come out. I doubt all the kids are buying their dads innocence.
love this comment lol and I do hold out some hope that the kids will start opening their minds once Chad's convicted..
100 percent!
I love the way your mind works. Occam’s Razor = KISS Rule 😊
it's not natural for me, but it's good to at least try to keep it simple, lol
He’s not pressing him to lie. The silver shed was different than the place, the pet cemetery, where pets were buried, and JJ was buried.
he's really really pressing him to try to remember or admit if other raccoons could have been buried in the pet cemetery... to match what was in the raccoon text.
Ive always believd he was poisoning her…depression, fatigue, vertigo, pain in extremeties all symptoms.
Law enforcement needs to keep a very close eye on Emma Garth and Emma's so-called husband, they are a chip off the old block if they are teaching any of your children, take them out of school ASAP
All of Garth‘s answers sound like questions with his statements ending with his voice going up at the end. So weird.
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Macay said Garth said this in front of other's who were there when he said it! Garth's a husband he better clean it up!
Not to be a weirdo. I sleep with my door open.
Me too! ha!
I agree. I think maybe his Dad said 'we have to lie for your Mom's dignity' type of spiel. 'She'll be embarrassed in the community if they think we were in different beds and she deserves dignity in death and we have to protect her memory.' etc.