Don't take it as an aggressive comment, but you clearly need to rethink what objectively "premium" units in Genshin are: Kazuha, Furina and Xilonen are among the best of the best, and all the others are still very good characters. The only character that isn't actually premium here is Keqing.
my condolences for any players that don't have Furina that being said, I think Xingqiu and/or Yelan still work wonder there Xingqiu + Yelan combo is also good for 2nd chamber bot half
I laughed out loud at the part where you got blinded by Kazuha. Sometimes some of the effects and abilities in this game can make it really easy to self-troll lol.
I find it amusing that many players still think that the papilla only accepts natlan characters. It's like they really think Mualani or support Xilonen has a chance to break its ward no matter how slow they attacked, completely ignoring the fact that it is a hit count shield, means many other fast hitting characters could actually do better than most current natlan roster
Wonderful video, excellent tips all chambers, such smooth gameplay. Thank you for this guide. For those that don't have Furina, use hydro on the two ground flames it summons after the fire missles. With XQ, E one of the ground flame and then simply touch the other with the revolving water swords With Yelan, it's easier, you can E both ground flames or just QAA the flames. Once the ground flames are out, it flies lower and you can hit it with any hydro atk to break the shield.
Hey, this has helped me alot for abyss runs as it's difficult for me to find good elemental reactions and enemy characteristics bc it often lets finicky. Back then I definitely seen this as impossible but it gave more opportunities to attempt it
For those without furina, yelan is able to hit him with her NA when the boss is lower to the ground, or xingqiu ult + bow attacker amazing performance as always though, played better than i could
you can create electro crystalize without bringing geo, take damage from an electro attack then take more damage from geo attacks so the geovishap crystalize on you, then pick up the crystalize when its about to do blast attack
A very restrictive abyss this time, i barely even found teams on the account which could do it. But once January hits, my Fischl becomes C6 and Keqing could come out of her long retirement for the second half!
What did you use for wolflord instead of noelle? When i saw other people complain about this abyss, i kind of figured you would have no issues because you are so good with noelle. Thanks for the run through. Also wish you could have heard how hard i laughed when you said stand and wait for furina to do her job.
Just saw their old Abyss videos. They always beat Wolflord without using any Geo character. You get it down to 71% HP first and then you will kill it on the 2nd DPS window.
I did Raiden Hyper with Xilonen, it's a bit slow to break the skulls, but with all bursts charged you can obliterate it when it's down. That's a pretty hyper invested Raiden though.
I keep coming back to this guide because I have almost this entire team, and I love carry Noelle. I just need to build the characters more. At 34 stars so far. I was able to three star chamber 2 with Xianyun + Navia #1 and Emile + Tighnari burning team #2. Xianyun can jump high enough to hit that stupid pterodactyl chamber 2 while Furina’s summons attack.
God even after double hydro setup, with double Fav weapon, while being Onfield Character. Noelle still needs more than 180% ER and Fav weapon 😭. Like she actually produce 0 Energy herself There's even one time when you fought the dragon, where you still need to funnel Yelan Fav to Noelle instead of Furina
i'm amazed of the run using Kirara, i didn't found the combo yet for breaking the shield using C2 Nahida, and the Papillas always kill me in the end ;-;
Yelan against Pyro tyrant bird easy... Yelan can Charge attack snipe its first spawn from anywhere on the map and then chase with skill and burst, it drops instantly
This abyss is just awful because its one the worst character check we have ever seen. Do you have Furina to beat the bird and one of the Natlan characters that can break the Papilla sheild, because if you don't it's going to suck ass.
Def don’t need a natlan char for the papilla, there’s a ton of team that shred the shield. Alhaitham/Kuki/XQ/collei works, Fischl/Bennett/XL/Chevy, Ganyu burnmelt, there’s a ton of options with no natlan char. The bird without Furina is a time suck though
Oh nice, I used a similar team on the first half. Except I had Navia instead of Xilonen. Noelle and Navia duo DPS together very well since Noelle had stronger normals but Navia's got the skill nuke that funnels energy right back to Noelle for the next burst.
The new sword is pretty good this time because you're almost always shielded. I'm still struggling on 12-1. I can't find a way to group lava boys and sacred crocodile teleports everywhere. So I always start phase 2 at 8:05, and end around 6:50
nice playthrough. Fortunately, I have C6 Noelle and C2 Furina, so it's sort of not so hard to do this. Furina is necessary for easily breaking the dragon that goes super saiyan.
I really thanks for this one because I don't have any offensive Natlan Characters. Especially how to defeating this new boss in 12-2-2. Again, why is shield really done wrong for all about the skill plays?
Your mastery of the enemy attack patterns is incredible as always. Quick question: do you not like Marechaussee Hunter on Noelle with Furina? Should I switch my Noelle off of it? Thanks!
The dps of a hyper carry noelle isn’t that impressive, and she benefits Furina and Yelan’s numbers more (and overall team dps) if she just carries archaic petra and favonius to buff and heal for fanfare. Source: TGS RUclips
Honestly I have my Noelle on MH with Serpent Spine and it's really not that much difference DPS wise than she was getting there with Fav and Petra Might be time to actually get a set of it.
I am a bit hesitant of giving Noelle Favo as without Stonethresher she loses a lot of damage :( Maybe that is the reason why she doesn't work well with Xilonen (not enough particles to charge Noelle's burst)
I used the same team in 12-2-2 but with Baizhu and always couldn't break the shield fast enough before the deadly explosion. Without the lowered RES, I couldn't beat it on time even with better builds than yours. Is it really important to use someone with high dendro app in this team to fight this guy? Any tips to fight it well without using a Natlan character? Edit: I couldn't even break the shield fast enough with hyperbloom team (nahida kuki xq yelan) which should be hitting fast enough, not sure what's the issue
Anyone knows how much Noelle gorou double hydro is far behind Noelle xilonen double hydro with furina? I don't have xilonen but thinking maybe 4 piece exile gorou?
two questions: you start with yelan elemental then burst. isn't better start with burst because elemental will generate extra barbs on hit? and does noelle c3 is worth it to build or better wait for c6 some day?
kind of confusing but: 1.) breakthrough barbs are insignificant if you are not c6 or not using charge attack on your rotation. Lingering Lifeline only restarts (i believe it is chance) your barbs when it explodes, and since you need to do a charge attack, that passive does nothing on your rotation. If you are talking about a single proc of dice when you activate lingering lifeline under the exquisite throw status, ahhhm, yes, he's missing 1 throw I believe. But if you mean orb and not barb. there is a travel time before you get the orbs. You can still get it even if you pop your skill then burst, just like how you funnel xiangling with bennett's skill and then switch to xl. and it's a full fav team... energy isn't really an issue. 2.) As shielder/healer, there are better c0 options. As DPS, just wait c6.
@@ElsweyrDiego C0? for lighter enemies, using skill first will help you group enemies before you cast your burst and switch to your mDPS. Also in the abyss, you can cover a great distance when using skill first to get close to enemies without wasting your burst duration. personally, I like doing skill first and then burst so my yelan can still get those orbs before I switch to my main DPS.
The only other solution I found, is to climb up Zhongli's pillar, and then spam Normal Attacks with Kokomi/Babara + Yelan/Xingqiu. I don't know if this also works with Geo Trav and Albedo.
i am kind of sloowwwww, cant do that fast stuff so mualani and alheitem did this for me wolf died before shield and had to put oron in team for that fkng 1 hit kill boss even with shield.. after looking at your run all i can say is amazing run, too fast for me XD...
This abyss is my wakeup call to build Noelle
furina was my call
@@Marta1BuckMine is Kinich 😅😅😅
Done 36 stars but will do again with Mavuika
@@exploreevery bruhh here I am struggling, I can't even clear chamber 1 and I keep dying in chamber 2
Yeah, we Noelle main eating good this abyss
gosh it's so smooth, I really admire how you did it, your work is wonderful, I love noelle and keking
Thanks for the guide~!!!
It always makes me happy when I can also clear abyss with what I think are less "premium" units, including weapons.
Don't take it as an aggressive comment, but you clearly need to rethink what objectively "premium" units in Genshin are: Kazuha, Furina and Xilonen are among the best of the best, and all the others are still very good characters. The only character that isn't actually premium here is Keqing.
my condolences for any players that don't have Furina
that being said, I think Xingqiu and/or Yelan still work wonder there
Xingqiu + Yelan combo is also good for 2nd chamber bot half
No furina and no yelan 🥴
they actually break the shield faster. it's just that you can't take a 30 second break there like furina
@@Wilson-oi3zhRIP 💀💀
Same 😢@@Wilson-oi3zh
@@Wilson-oi3zhxinqui works perfectly fine and is faster than Furina. Just break the orbs and wait till he comes down and pop your ult.
Being blinded by Kazuha’s burst is such a universal problem
excellent choice of music, torna battle theme is a banger
bro really wait furina stands to break bird toughness
Furina is essential
I laughed out loud at the part where you got blinded by Kazuha.
Sometimes some of the effects and abilities in this game can make it really easy to self-troll lol.
I've run off of stuff so many times because of his burst. The electro infusion is extra blinding
I find it amusing that many players still think that the papilla only accepts natlan characters. It's like they really think Mualani or support Xilonen has a chance to break its ward no matter how slow they attacked, completely ignoring the fact that it is a hit count shield, means many other fast hitting characters could actually do better than most current natlan roster
NO WAY, I remember using Raiden Overload with only Sara, Xiangling, & Chevreuse on that boss.
your runs never fail to amaze me
very informative run and interesting team (i love Kirara)
Awesome as always
thank you for your monthly guide on how to group enemies
Cool vid as always
Wonderful video, excellent tips all chambers, such smooth gameplay. Thank you for this guide.
For those that don't have Furina, use hydro on the two ground flames it summons after the fire missles.
With XQ, E one of the ground flame and then simply touch the other with the revolving water swords
With Yelan, it's easier, you can E both ground flames or just QAA the flames.
Once the ground flames are out, it flies lower and you can hit it with any hydro atk to break the shield.
I have been waiting for this
estaba esperando tu video!!! nunca fallas 🙏
Hey, this has helped me alot for abyss runs as it's difficult for me to find good elemental reactions and enemy characteristics bc it often lets finicky. Back then I definitely seen this as impossible but it gave more opportunities to attempt it
that's the best noelle team currently imo
Great run as always. :)
I keep imagining your account has like 12 fav swords. :)
Great Noelle as always!
For those without furina, yelan is able to hit him with her NA when the boss is lower to the ground, or xingqiu ult + bow attacker
amazing performance as always though, played better than i could
Xilonen is such a godsend for Geo DPSes. She and Furina finally made my Ningguang feel great to play again.
good stuff as always
you can create electro crystalize without bringing geo, take damage from an electro attack then take more damage from geo attacks so the geovishap crystalize on you, then pick up the crystalize when its about to do blast attack
its amazing to see that you managed to get 36 stars with all just free to play options on those characters
Fav Noelle...
You make it look so easy without some of the newest 5* characters, cool!
Thanks for the written tips
A very restrictive abyss this time, i barely even found teams on the account which could do it. But once January hits, my Fischl becomes C6 and Keqing could come out of her long retirement for the second half!
This abyss is a buffet for Noelle, ckckck
But I can see why people struggling, because even with my hyper invested Noelle it still taken some time,
Amazing how strong Fav weapons are
strong since birth 😅
I love it even more with ur suggestions on video
It's so smooth i thought you had negative ping, but then i realised that your connection is yellow.
Thanks for the tips during the run.😊
Noelle-chan❤❤❤❤❤😍❤️❤️
Yelan and Xingqiu at the same time and Yaoyao'a burst also work great for breaking the abyss monster's shield.
What did you use for wolflord instead of noelle? When i saw other people complain about this abyss, i kind of figured you would have no issues because you are so good with noelle. Thanks for the run through. Also wish you could have heard how hard i laughed when you said stand and wait for furina to do her job.
Just saw their old Abyss videos. They always beat Wolflord without using any Geo character. You get it down to 71% HP first and then you will kill it on the 2nd DPS window.
I did Raiden Hyper with Xilonen, it's a bit slow to break the skulls, but with all bursts charged you can obliterate it when it's down.
That's a pretty hyper invested Raiden though.
Furina not dropping her crown ♥
Clean run
As a Noelle main, I feel good for my girl being appreciated
Wow that’s very nice. I have C6 noelle and no xilonen, no furina and no yelan. That’s so cool.
I keep coming back to this guide because I have almost this entire team, and I love carry Noelle. I just need to build the characters more. At 34 stars so far. I was able to three star chamber 2 with Xianyun + Navia #1 and Emile + Tighnari burning team #2. Xianyun can jump high enough to hit that stupid pterodactyl chamber 2 while Furina’s summons attack.
Okay, I got it, I'll build Fischl next
God even after double hydro setup, with double Fav weapon, while being Onfield Character. Noelle still needs more than 180% ER and Fav weapon 😭. Like she actually produce 0 Energy herself
There's even one time when you fought the dragon, where you still need to funnel Yelan Fav to Noelle instead of Furina
i'm amazed of the run using Kirara, i didn't found the combo yet for breaking the shield using C2 Nahida, and the Papillas always kill me in the end ;-;
Finally
A fun Abyss
That Abyss Tree is killing me because i dont have Natlan 5 stars
Fischl's sand is diabolical
Tokyo mirage sessions ost!? In the spiral abyss showcase! U have top tier taste inmusic
Yelan against Pyro tyrant bird easy... Yelan can Charge attack snipe its first spawn from anywhere on the map and then chase with skill and burst, it drops instantly
This abyss is just awful because its one the worst character check we have ever seen. Do you have Furina to beat the bird and one of the Natlan characters that can break the Papilla sheild, because if you don't it's going to suck ass.
Def don’t need a natlan char for the papilla, there’s a ton of team that shred the shield. Alhaitham/Kuki/XQ/collei works, Fischl/Bennett/XL/Chevy, Ganyu burnmelt, there’s a ton of options with no natlan char.
The bird without Furina is a time suck though
spicy gameplay, keqing aggravate slaps
I love you vídeos ❤
Oh nice, I used a similar team on the first half. Except I had Navia instead of Xilonen.
Noelle and Navia duo DPS together very well since Noelle had stronger normals but Navia's got the skill nuke that funnels energy right back to Noelle for the next burst.
Legendary noelle!!
The new sword is pretty good this time because you're almost always shielded.
I'm still struggling on 12-1.
I can't find a way to group lava boys and sacred crocodile teleports everywhere. So I always start phase 2 at 8:05, and end around 6:50
My c6 noelle is about to get built
I'm struggling to do 12-2 in time and you do it with 40 seconds to spare
MAID QUEEN ❤❤❤❤
For 2nd half, burning works fast too.
Now I just need build Kirara, Xilonen, and magically find Yelan in my account. 😅 At least I have the C6 Noelle.
DID I HEAR LATALE
nice playthrough. Fortunately, I have C6 Noelle and C2 Furina, so it's sort of not so hard to do this.
Furina is necessary for easily breaking the dragon that goes super saiyan.
My lava avatars keep teleporting and splitting in the middle of fight... How tf do you avoid this????
She look so fun to play😊
I really thanks for this one because I don't have any offensive Natlan Characters. Especially how to defeating this new boss in 12-2-2.
Again, why is shield really done wrong for all about the skill plays?
noelle screentime!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
W xenoblade music
Your mastery of the enemy attack patterns is incredible as always. Quick question: do you not like Marechaussee Hunter on Noelle with Furina? Should I switch my Noelle off of it? Thanks!
The dps of a hyper carry noelle isn’t that impressive, and she benefits Furina and Yelan’s numbers more (and overall team dps) if she just carries archaic petra and favonius to buff and heal for fanfare.
Source: TGS RUclips
Honestly I have my Noelle on MH with Serpent Spine and it's really not that much difference DPS wise than she was getting there with Fav and Petra
Might be time to actually get a set of it.
Time to build my keqing now ig
I am a bit hesitant of giving Noelle Favo as without Stonethresher she loses a lot of damage :( Maybe that is the reason why she doesn't work well with Xilonen (not enough particles to charge Noelle's burst)
Time to try the team
I used the same team in 12-2-2 but with Baizhu and always couldn't break the shield fast enough before the deadly explosion. Without the lowered RES, I couldn't beat it on time even with better builds than yours. Is it really important to use someone with high dendro app in this team to fight this guy? Any tips to fight it well without using a Natlan character?
Edit: I couldn't even break the shield fast enough with hyperbloom team (nahida kuki xq yelan) which should be hitting fast enough, not sure what's the issue
Can I replace Xilonen with Gorou especially for players like me with no Xilonen?
Who do you pick in replace of Furina and Xilonen?
Do you recommend building Noelle if she’s not C6?
I use the Noelle team for the second phase lol... Still full stars secured
I have all the characters you use invested but Keqing and noelle… they are abt lvl 70 with level 6 talents… should I copy this run lol?
Do a nuv and arle team please or nahida..
how is calamity of eshu for keqing on this team?
wondering, is there any situations where you want to hold kirara's E? when she's a bloom driver?
Yes
Unfortunately I lost on furina banner 🥲
Just use furina from monstad
@@Budistudying who is that? 😂😂😂
@@hisywm3924 Mona
Mona
is it possible to replace xilonen with gorou?
Can u change xilonen with kachina?
i thought you were going to use the new 4* weapon bc you were using kirara 😔
For second chamber Mona works really fine. Use normal attack use skill and do sprint and do NA
I'm so done with 12-2😭
i dont have fichl can i use Raiden instead, and Yaoyao instead of Kirara? (cuz i dont build Kirara) is kirara Dendro applicationn better than YaoYao
Is calamity of eshu weaker than lions roar? ur not using it tho u brought kirara
calamity of eshu is mainly focused on boosting NA and CA when lions roar boost electro damage which will boost NA, CA, SKILL, BURST
Btw, what is N3D?
N = normal attack
3 (or any number after a letter) = 3 times the previous input
D = dash
so, here it means : 3 normal attacks, dash, and repeat
@clementlassalle4317 Oh I see, thanks for the explanation.
Anyone knows how much Noelle gorou double hydro is far behind Noelle xilonen double hydro with furina? I don't have xilonen but thinking maybe 4 piece exile gorou?
Massive skill issue, I can't even clear 12-1 3 stars using neuv and arle
Is it good to use Marechausee hunter to Noelle?
Yes, its her best set when paired with Furina.
@@f2pkeqingso why did you use husk set here?
Team 1 : Neuvilette Hyper carry
Team 2 : Hyperbloom goes brrrrrrr
no Xilonen 😔
two questions: you start with yelan elemental then burst. isn't better start with burst because elemental will generate extra barbs on hit? and does noelle c3 is worth it to build or better wait for c6 some day?
Wait till c6 Because there are better characters if your noelle isnt c6
kind of confusing but:
1.) breakthrough barbs are insignificant if you are not c6 or not using charge attack on your rotation. Lingering Lifeline only restarts (i believe it is chance) your barbs when it explodes, and since you need to do a charge attack, that passive does nothing on your rotation. If you are talking about a single proc of dice when you activate lingering lifeline under the exquisite throw status, ahhhm, yes, he's missing 1 throw I believe.
But if you mean orb and not barb. there is a travel time before you get the orbs. You can still get it even if you pop your skill then burst, just like how you funnel xiangling with bennett's skill and then switch to xl. and it's a full fav team... energy isn't really an issue.
2.) As shielder/healer, there are better c0 options. As DPS, just wait c6.
@@mita3343 I have Ninggang C6, its good until i have noelle c6?
@@lazystudios4866 thanks! so is there vantages in using elemental first or is just preference?
@@ElsweyrDiego C0? for lighter enemies, using skill first will help you group enemies before you cast your burst and switch to your mDPS. Also in the abyss, you can cover a great distance when using skill first to get close to enemies without wasting your burst duration.
personally, I like doing skill first and then burst so my yelan can still get those orbs before I switch to my main DPS.
3:14 genuinely how do you beak his pyro sheild in a reasonable amount of time if you don't have Furina...
The only other solution I found, is to climb up Zhongli's pillar, and then spam Normal Attacks with Kokomi/Babara + Yelan/Xingqiu.
I don't know if this also works with Geo Trav and Albedo.
Saw someone do it with Xingqiu burst and normal attacks from Gorou. Assumedly other bow characters could also hit it?
is c0 fischl good? im afraid to waste materials huhu
Shes great in aggravate teams even at c0
What does n3d mean
I think it's normal attack 3 times then cancel it with a dash
i am kind of sloowwwww, cant do that fast stuff so mualani and alheitem did this for me wolf died before shield and had to put oron in team for that fkng 1 hit kill boss even with shield.. after looking at your run all i can say is amazing run, too fast for me XD...
My first run team is just like your team ❤😂😂😂
My second team is keqing-nahida-fischl-zhongli