Extra Old GARDNER Engines COLD STARTING UP and NICE SOUND
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- This video features Extra Old GARDNER Engines COLD STARTING UP and NICE SOUND. If you like the video hit the like button and SUBSCRIBE.
SUBSCRIBE NOW:
/ @bigturbochannel
SWEET T-SHIRTS:
cars-engines.c...
Disclaimer
This video is fair use under U.S. copyright law because it is transformative in nature, uses no more of the original than necessary and has no negative effect on the market for the original work.
Lovely, no music, no yak, just fine old engines.
Bison?
@@wayneessar7489 😁
Here,here.
In the early sixties I worked in a steel works on Cardiff docks, nearby was a scrap yard with a load of corporation double Deckers, I had a walk around one day and there was a row of Gardener engines from the buses to one side. The guy working there told me that they would be shipped out to Hong Kong where the Chinese would put them in their Harbour boats. 10 years + in a city bus and they were still good we did manufacture good gear once upon a time.
We certainly did! A bus dismantlers - 'North's' of Sherburn in Elmet in Yorkshire, literally removed thousands of Gardner's for export to Hong Kong and elsewhere, to be marinised for boat operation. Those magnificent engine's are probably still going strong!
@@robertp.wainman4094 Still a regular feature in our small harbour boat/coastal fishing fleet here in Hong Kong, they have even tested the feasibility in using ULSD on them, with good results. We too removed those from our own worn out buses and send them to boats, a few good rebuilder focus on just that. ruclips.net/video/mlnXjOX4X50/видео.html (11:18)
@@KL-jr5ip Good to hear the Gardners are still going strong!
My father drove many Foden trucks in Western Australia with Gardener motors. Slow but would go forever
Regardless whether its a 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 cyl Gardner they are by far the best diesel ever made.
Nothing comes close.
I've been lucky enough to have had the LW 6&8LXB and 4-6-&8 L3B during 38 years commercial fishing in Tasmania and although I have had other engines none of them could hold a candle to any Gardner for reliability and economy ,a beautiful engine sadly no longer made
@@michaelcolgrave4184 Great comment Michael. As a young lorry mechanic in 1967, we went out on a breakdown to a place called Trowbridge Wiltshire, to attend to an Esso Atkinson 8 wheeled tanker that had gone through a flood and sucked in water and lost power. On stripping down we found 3 bent con rods. I was in awe of the quality of the motor. Even the Gudgeon pins “ wrist pins “ didn’t have circlips, Gardener used alloy end caps which I’d never seen before, and individual injector primers. The motor was a 6Lx. Greetings from Cornwall.
Matsui, as a Tasmanian crayfisherman for over 38 years , I've been lucky enough to have used Gardners from the 5LW right up to the 8L3B, I had this one in a 60 ft timber boat from 1979 to 1984 , and apart from the normal preventative maintenance I never lost a days work through any breakdown, for me they were the most reliable and trustworthy motor ever made and in the case of the 8L3B for a 200 horsepower engine was so economical , cheers from Tasmania
@@michaelcolgrave4184 my father-in-law was a skipper on a fishing boat out of Whanganui in New Zealand. I asked him which was the best boat motor, without hesitation he said "Gardner". When a Gardner was put in a boat it would never have to be removed during the lifetime of the boat. He said you could even tow them to start them if the battery was flat by using the decompression levers and releasing them one at a time.
@@peterwiremuormsby9383 Peter wiremu Ormsby, your father in law was a very clever man and knew exactly what he was talking about, the early slow revving motors were pretty much industructable, the L3 series were max 900 revs ,Las they increased the revs naturally there was more wear but still the most reliable marine motor ever built,it's a crying shame that people switched to cheaper throw away motors, false economy in my opinion at the end a fully.rigged 8L3B was pushing $100 000, and although worth every cent the cost was out of the average persons reach, when they could repower for , $20 _ 25 000 ,so sad to see them no longer available , cheers from Tasmania
I remember those engines in small trawlers I worked on as a 16 year old, They were always started a 1/2 hour before sailing time to let them warm up, it was the first one abourds jobs. Check oil level, a few pumps to get the oil circulating then on with the starter, good old days.
The Mighty Gardner's . Never powerhouses , But Reliable ? HELL YES . Legendary Powerplants .
When I worked for loctite Gardner were a client. My memory of them is they were implacably wedded to quality first, beautiful engineering, unfortunately that became less important and they seemed resistant to change, by which I mean cheapening the product. Notably at that point they seemed to fight shy of turbo technology .These were hand built machines, much in the idiom of AMG mercs. They always start first time every time and from the get go will cover a million miles before a minor rebuild.
I drove shunt engines for over ten years the gardner engines were bullet proof and so reliable great power source chaz
Got some still at Doon valley railway open days throughout the year.Scotland Ayrshire
My dad drove a Foden Fuel Tanker in Sydney Australia in the mid 1950's, it was fitted with an 8 cyl Gardner. Was the biggest of it's kind in the Southern Hemisphere at the time.
In the UK, Gardner engines were and often still are generally considered the best of best. Most travelling fairgrounds used them as generators and for the towing trucks, as they were so totally reliable and long lasting.
We two a 6LW and a 6LXB in A series ERFs both did 17 years service with minimal servicing ,neither ever gave any trouble.
Yes - the background noise of the fair behind the music was the dependable thrum of the Gardners.
Good old reliable motors. I remember seeing a pair of inline 6's in a Tug back in the early 90's.
For me Gardner provides a beautiful sound. In France, two lorrys builders used it Latil and Bernard. It was the 6 cyl. It s very nice to listen it.
These machines must have superb timing to run so smoothly. Such even sound.
On the marine engines the heavy flywheel makes a massive difference.
All the L3 and L3B series marine engines have 1000lb flywheels.
as a kid in the 1960s all the travelling fairs ran the shows (Waltzer, twist, dodgems) with Gardner diesel engines,
reliable and quiet,
Me and a mate of mine got hold of a Foden truck that had a 6 cyclinder Gardiner engine. It had been sitting for about 29 years, destroyed transmission, and we freed up the slide on the injector pump, replaced the fuel,checked the water and oil quantities and it fired up after three turns.
Surprised it took as many as three turns! Gardner - what an engine!
P.C. ...............good job !!!!.........both of ya'll
Wow this brought back some memories! Years ago I had an old tugboat with a 6 LXE in it. Never missed a beat. Thanks for the video.
RNLI had Gardner engines in the old boats, wonderful machines.
I live in Hurghada, Egypt on the coast of the Red Sea and these engines were common here.
There are a few boats I know that have had them for over thirty years and are known for reliability. In fact those who have them now were bought used in the 80's for commercial fishing boats and then handed down to tourist boats in the early 90s.
Absolutly legendary quality!
Yes - legendary engines. There used to be a bus dismantler in the UK who would remove the Gardner engines and sell them all over the world to be marinised for boat operation......and those engines are probably still going strong!
@@robertp.wainman4094 Wow!
Yes they are sir. I just wonder why they don't make them like that anymore.
Great hearing from you sir. You are a legend in my parts
@@AhmedAdly11 Many thanks! I suspect modern commercial engines - like many other things - are not 'over-engineered' to last as they used to be. Gardner was for most of it's existence owned by a family with very high standards. You always knew a Gardner would get the job done!
Each of these old engines has an interesting "music", thanks for sharing.
Gardner engined MCW Metrobus's were the sound of my childhood
Amazing they start so quickly and smooth
I live in Manchester also been on a tour round the Patricroft factory, then they were allowed to generate some of their own electricity they had some really old Gardner engines in the power room. We had some Gardeners in our fleet you just couldn't kill them. But as time moved on Swedish trucks started to take hold and sadly Gardner just couldn't evolve. The best engineers then, were on the UK fair grounds they could make guvnors out of springs and levers, very clever guys.
They had one of every engine in the generator room and u der the floor was one large fuel tank.
What a beautiful job some of these gentleman have done on restoration. WOW!
We used Gardner 6cyl engines for Basic VM training at Norton Manor Camp (REME) in the early '50s .Everyone preferred the Gardner to the AEC .
Hit n miss engines are pure marvel. Their distinctive sound is simply a mechanical wonder of timing and firing...love those machines.
These old engines remind me of old British funfair power plant ERF trucks with the massive generator
There was something magical & soothing about the LXB's when ticking over.
Yes - when at speed too.
They sounded really good and responded pretty quickly to the throttle, for that size diesel engine.
We had some Gardner engined lorries in the late 60's, don't press any pedals, just press the starter button or turn the key. DO NOT press the accelerator or they won't start! Run forever.
It takes a lot to beat a Gardner diesel,they sound beautiful…music to one’s ears.
Roland, you've probably read my comments regarding these great motors ,as I've said ,over 38 years of fishing i've had most Gardner models , I've also had a few other makes but for reliability and economy nothing could hold a candle to the Gardners, what a shame they are no longer made , cheers from Tasmania
In Australia there is a small passenger train operating in the gulf region out of Normanton, QLD which has a 6cyl Gardner diesel in it. It operates in the "dry" season.
A beautiful little old train. There were a lot of 8LXB 8-cyl ones operating in Melbourne in Atkinson trucks. They were almost indestructable but slow!!
The Gulflander: RM93. The Gardner 8 cyl also operated in Melbourne on the then Victorian Railways. A pair of 8LWs powered the big 280hp Walker diesel rail cars: RM80 - RM91
Can't beat a Gardner for simplicity low fuel consumption and great torque down to the the last rpm
In the 1960's and 70's the 'United Automobile' bus company from Newcastle upon Tyne operated their 'Tyne Tees Thames' service to London - a return journey of approximately 650 miles....day in-day out - utilising Gardner engined Bristol RELH's. They soon clocked a million miles - more or less just 'run in' by then - before many more years of 'second line' operation......After which the Gardner would often be removed at North's dismantlers ready to be marinised for boat operation in Hong Kong and elsewhere. What an engine!
Thank you very much.
I took on a job on an old ship as engineer, the ship had two 4lw I think they were as generators, but they hadn't been used for nearly 10 years, I changed the oil and they fired up first time, I could even hand start them ( not too often 😊)
These beautiful engines have more music in them than most rap songs.
All.
Some of the most thermally efficient diesels ever made
35% thermal efficiency.
Top of the heap in their time.
Marine engines were supplied with aluminium crank cases from the factory. I worked on commercial passenger boats with twin 6LX engines and owned a commercial fishing/ passenger boat with a single 5LW. They all were supplied brand new with aluminium crank cases.
Fantastic quality diesel engines and marvelous sounds. Great video.
The first one reminds me of when I was child hanging around the bus depot where my dad worked, sounds the exact same as when the buses were fired up and idling away.
Gardner one of the best sounding Diesel engines
We used a Gardner 6LB in our 40 foot fishing trawler. The engine was actually a marinised bin lorry (Atkinson) engine. We loved that old engine - not because of power but because of the history, easy to fix, cheap and plentiful spares and because it was reliable. It never ever failed us in both starting or actually breaking.
Our old engine is gone now. Gone because the government pressured us into decommissioning the trawler to please the EU. Unfortunately, only certain parts could be recycled for re-sale such as cabin glass and the deck winch. The engine had to be smashed to pieces in front of the government inspector who witnessed the scrapping.
When people ask, "how bad has it gotten over there?" Read the above comment.
Ouch. Hate to see fine old equipment trashed like that for any reason. No wonder so many people are down on government.
Wow really, that’s tragic, to wreck someone’s income and force you into buying a new boat or motor, what’s wrong with these people.
@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 “Government does best what government does least” unfortunately becomes truer by the day.
Schöne Motoren👍👍👍
I loved this video great job guys
Really impressive! Quality design and engineering!
Best diesel engine ever!, they will start after years of standing, it's very hard to kill a Gardner!
Great engines', but I bet 'net zero' (than no one voted for) will kill all diesel eventually!
We use have gardeners in our locomotives very quiet smooth and economical on fuel
No better sound than that of a Gardner engine 👍
Do you like these GARDNER engines ?
YES...Bullet Proof and Looong lasting.
Like them- love them
Worked with LW and LX marine engines and a 1L2 auxiliary. Super reliable and economical.
Yes. More videos please
100% eat sleep and breath Gardners.
Pete Culler, naval architect, designed a beautiful boat of something like 55-58 feet with a t-head pilot house yet! and planned for an eight cylinder Gardner engine.
6L3 my favorite marine engine of all time
Inline-8 is beautiful!
Splendid motors 👍👍👍👍👍👍👋👋👋💪💪
Vraiment des œuvres d'art très beau
I’m starting to jig along, turn it up
Reliably personified
I put a Gardner 180 in my Scammell Explorer she was a BEAUTY to drive!
The company I worked for ren a fleet of them. If three or four of us would start up together on a cold morning the yard would disappear under a bank of smoke. Low revs but plenty of pull.
Sounds like the old double deckers which ran in the 80s in my town Leyland fleetline with gardner in em.😊
My late dad knew an owner of a transport business fleet in Cape Town South Africa in the 60s. He re engined his entire Dennis fleet of lorries from Perkins to Gardener. Huge savings in fuel and maintenance! Pity Perkins Bought Gardener and killed them. These Dennis trucke did continously the 1000 mile Johannesburg run. Beautiful engines.
GARDNER for christs sake !!
bee - uu -tiful !!
Work of art
This injection pumps must have been masterpieces!
No big turbos on these beasties. It would be fun to combine Gardner sound and turbo sound
Why did several of the engines not have the characteristic diesel knock sound? Was it caused by lower compression?
When cold they can be a bit "clonky"
Most likely due to a bit of piston slap esp if they have unskirted pistons in them.
Good job
Some people rubbish Gardner engines, but they were really good old work horses. I drove Fodens, ERF's and Guys with 150, 180 and 240 engines. Low on fuel and just go forever.
Gardner are known world wide for the reliability, power, low noise & efficiency. Based loosely on Rolls Royce. Their used in everything from buses, lorries to boats and ships. I think their amazing engines! Up their with Kat & Perkins but not quite like the mighty Meteor!
What brilliant engines,it is a pity that they did not keep up with the power increases required that other builders managing.
Proper engines
It's great to see these wonderful old engines, but those men are at serious risk of developing cancer from the particulates in the exhaust fumes.
Puede ser pero se le pone su catalisador . Todo el sistema de escape de ahora
A straight 8 diesel, I love the old motors,
Beautiful.👌
Literally built like a tank!!!
I was interviewed for a job in the Barton works when I left school! Fortunately I decided the Electric Board was a better offer (where I still am over 40 years later)
Incidentally I was on a job for Norweb at the same Gardner's works putting high bat lighting in the Crankshaft Bay and took the opportunity to have a wander round ... as you do. The 600v Mercury arc rectifier was a thing to behold and was even scarier than the women working in the foundry!
Gardner's fell victim to their own success and were unwilling to develop new engines that could compete with lighter more powerful units made by the likes of Volvo and relied on their admittedly long lasting engines and the rest was history!
Sadly the place is now several different firms .... and the local Police Car Pound, the playing fields (very impressive) are now a housing estate!
I was put on trouble shooting, argued with the Gardner's telling they were wrong about a fishing gear box failure. They were working off 1908 drawings committed the fault for decades, the moulders put bumps on crank cases and the fitters on the final test machined them off.... to tolerances! they were inches off any possible object - I was transferred to Inspection.
What's the displacement torque and horsepower of that 8XLB? That was a beautiful engine. I think it would look great in a long hood Pete or extended cowl KW 900!
Tom Cline, the 8 LXB that I had was 150Hp @ 1350 revs ,it had a bore of121mm and stroke of 152mm and weight of 3560 pounds ,I was driving a 58 ft timber boat , it had a twin disc 509 gearbox 3.5 to 1reduction and swinging a four blade 48- 36 prop ,did it beautifully, later they increased the horsepower to 170 HP by increasing the revs up to 1500 and changing the injectors, in my opinion this didn't make them a better motor , just added to the fuel bill ,they later again increased the HP to 200 by increasing the revs up to 1750 and adding a turbo charger this I think unfortunately was the beginning of the end for the once all time greatest diesel engines, hope this information is of some benefit , cheers from Tasmania Australia
Yeah,great info! I didn't realize they were that low an rpm engine. That sounds like pretty high torque for the HP and rpms.
Take care.
Hi again Tom, yes the original Gardners were very slow revving ,the first of the L3 motors were a maximum 900 rpm , I had an 8L3b, in a 60ft crayfish boat from 1979- 1984 , that was 200hp @1150rpm with an Allison 4.5 to1 reduction , once again the later models were upped to 250hp @ 1500 revs ,my opinion again no better than the earlier models, but still a bloody mighty motor , cheers mick
The former Victorian Railways in Australia, used to have a fleet of Walker diesel passenger railcars. The largest variant: the Walker 280, ran a pair of Gardner 8LXB's. Seated 94 passengers and could maintain 60mph track speed.
8cylwas 240hp
My old Foden tipper had a 6LX 180C in👍!!
I like all engines, and there’s lots of them… so you can lots more videos please.
No music etc . That's a turn off. These machines look like works of art.
A proper diesel engine. But the atlas Imperial in my old boat is better 😉. Great stuff and thank you for posting
Great video 👍😉🇺🇦
HEY!!!!!
You should have warned us about the exhaust smoke....
now my room is full of smoke from this video...........
The old boy (67) still running a 6l in his cray fishing boat 12 letters an hour at 10 notes
Let's see your Tesla do that! Smoke, Fire, music to my ears.
we used to own the building they were built in then xD
Every one of these engines is hot. There is no way a "cold" engine would start like that.
They are the easiest starting engine ever.
Normally only takes one or two compressions and they are running.
God job
All you need now is an old commercial, aec, fodon, to throw them in
NO COMPUTERS !!!!!!
On the 378’ US Coast Guard cutters we engineers could control where we were going and how fast we were going with NO ELECTRICITY! Not “no computers,” no electricity! Everything had hydraulic and/or mechanical backups. And the MDEs (Main Diesel Engines) were Fairbanks-Morse 38TD 8 1/8s. 12 cylinder, opposed pistons. Designed in 1938. But when the cutters were designed (early 1960s) those were the smallest and lightest diesels that met the Buy American standards and would make a continuous 3,800 horsepower.
DAF trucks, da da ding, engine malfunction!
@@freddiebozwell7049 how dare you sir.😭
I've been driving one for the last year and a half. 🥴No problem whatsoever. 😊
I was dragged kicking and screaming into it from a man tgm😭 . Do have a slight problem with access to the bed 🛌
Miss automatic gearbox Flat floor and interior height 😢 have her back in the morning 🌄
@@eugeneclarke5572 the auto box doesn't do what it should, mate, ex daf has a Renault, he says its totally different. I prefer the Manuel old dog in yard but I guess it's personal choice!
@@freddiebozwell7049 well the man worked well until we had a few novices driving it. It was unpredictable when she'd take off, not good at a busy junction. Missing the space but the manual box is my preference. I've seen the best and most of 50 years. When I started, you were lucky to have a licence let alone a clutch on the old tractor 🚜. Good old sunny Ireland 🇮🇪 😎
なんだ?古い戦車のエンジン?
Yes used for trucks, stationary engines ( generators, compressors etc.), and marine
miniatura enganosa.... deslike e denuncia