Kung Fu vs Karate
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024
- Kung Fu vs Karate. In this video we explore Japanese Karate and Chinese Kung Fu! 空手 is Karate in Japanese & 功夫 is Gong Fu in Mandarin Chinese. Karate is the Japanese equivalent of Chinese Kung Fu. Both Martial Arts Styles are the national forms of Self Defense in their respective countries!
My friend Spencer Hinde uses his Karate training to show us 3 different Karate movements. Then, we show 3 Kung Fu techniques from Tiger Kung Fu, Crane, Kung Fu, and Bird Kung Fu which would be well suited to deal with this attack from our Karate expert! Kung Fu vs Karate - which is superior? Tell me in the comments below!
Thank you Pamela Mace for recording the video and thank you Joachim Maniam for lending your Martial Arts abilities making this "Kung Fu vs Karate" video possible!
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in my opinion it always comes down to the skill of the individual not the style
u re right
+david leca Finally someone with a response that makes sense. Thank you.
Yes, style is less important when kicking down open doors.
I agree with your opinion
thats why i never know why i click on these Fake mace videos -_-
Having a black belt in traditional karate, I was kinda embarrassed about this guys karate... front kick and that front hand punch? Why didn't he use a round kick, spinning back fist, or hammer fist? Yes the side kick is one of the most powerful kicks! But this guy had bad form, didn't shift or pivot right....
Bad form? His punches and kicks look solid to me...
8 years in karate and taken first and second in Diamond Nationals for sparing. What you got? Look when he's punching and kicking, legs are way to spread out and they keep slipping!
8 years in Karate, that is impressive! You should contribute a video on good technique. As for me, I have nothing to boast about...
Andrew - There are sooooo many techniques in Karate as well as Kung Fu. More to come in the next video! :)
Stopped doing marital arts about a yearish ago, life happened, and tournaments and stuff got to spendy and moved to a small ass apt so no room for doing tornado kicks to put them on video! haha. Yes Kung Fu has many different techniques! With Karate its mostly all the same just different names...
I'll be sure to use these techniques the next time my opponent cooperates with me.
Also a black belt in Karate with 15 years of experience here, the karate dude is an amateur, he has some flaws in his techniques plus he is using basic simple moves which are taught for beginners (white belt kids) plus he is super slow.
For your information, the Mai Gere is supposed to his the chest with your toes 90 degrees up, not the face, one last thing, his stance is totally wrong.
Go figure, the guy in white is not even doing anything near any style of wushu kungfu...
Guy in black doesn't look bad, it's just karate freestyle is quite fluid. I would use loyto machida as example
Karate and Kung fu shouldn't be compared they are both equal and it depends and who's fighting who
No they are not. But it does depend on the person. Martial arts wise with 2 equal fighters, kung fu has the upper hand. It has way more powerful kicks and more trick flips. But it does depend on the user.
Actually it’s the opposite
Kung fu and karate are trash I just don't know which one is worse, karate is some stupid ass kicks that would only work in unrealistic situations and kung fu Is just slapping each other with weird ass hand motions
I have studied Taekwondo, Karatedo, and Aikido and they are fine for self defense, but i always appreciate a different approach/perspective on martial arts. I really appreciate that you take the time to post these videos because i always learn something new. Thanks for sharing.
Is your Karate guy a white belt? He kept taking his eye's of his opponent. Remember what Bruce Lee said. lol
black belt
lol I love how he say water XD of in other word shui.
what did he say?:)
"Never take your eyes of your Opponent"
"what did he say?"
Stop asking me to say things to you - Bruce Lee on the set of Enter the Dragon
Haha! Tell Me Below: Are you "Cobra Kai" or "Mr. Miyagi"???
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace I would say that he authentic kung fu is almost lost unless you find a true sifu, but in terms of Karate there are more pragmatic and spirited teachers around mostly because it is a fusion of southern shaolin kung fu, japanese taijutsu and okinawan rigorous close combat so you have 3 distinctive historical and geographical references which a common feature between them is "one blow, one kill" or the "Ichigeki hissatsu" concept. This is more tangible if you practice styles like Kyokushinkai. You could also add jujutsu and kendo's footwork, accuracy and promptness to this story and wrap it up as the eastern Chinese-Japanese art of war and self defence. However, in a wider scope, if we imagine Kung Fu as a temple and a general category, Karate would be one if its main pillars and as a whole, Kung Fu encompasses almost everything martial-religious over at least 30 centuries in mid to east Asia. There isn't nothing more fierce and effective, magnificient and creative than real Hung Ga, Wing Chun, Xingyiquan, Taijiquan or Bajiquan, (particularly) Shaolinquan etc. in real situations if the practitioner absorbed the essence under instruction of a real master. So lets forget this absurd question of " Which is better ...? ". There is (and has been) only one Martial Art as the natural physical expression of humankind for survival and then for purifying the spirit.
- 3rd Dan in Shito-ryu Karate-Do
- 2rd Dan in Goju-ryu Karate-Do
- currently practicing Shaolin Luohanquan and Xingyiquan
Manoucher Nik After WWII what is 沖縄県(おきなわけん) Okinawa Ken or the prefecture of Okinawa would fall under US control (USCAR) from 1945-1972. 3/4 of all US military in Asia would be stationed on Okinawa. This would give the US G.I. 18 months to train under 沖縄空手先生 or Okinawan Karate teachers. On US bases in Okinawa such as Camp Foster, Camp, Kinser and even Kadena would have Okinawan Karate teachers come aboard and teach the 米国軍人(べいこくぐんじん)Beikoku Gunjin or US military G.I. After the GI would do their 18 months on the Rock (Okinawa) they would rotate back to CONUS or the US. Some would open 道場(どうじょう) Dojo(s) back in their hone towns.This would lead to Karate becoming very popular in the US around the 1960s. Hawai'i would also play a role on the spread of Karate to the mainland too. GIs who would be stationed there could also learn many 流(りゅう)Ryu or styles of Karate. The 1st 極真会館空手の道場 or Kyokushin Kaikan Karate dojo to open outside of Japan was on Honolulu, Oahu, Hawai'i under the late Mr. Lowe 師範 (Master). This is one of the leading reasons why 空手道(からてどう)Karate-Do has spread through the US. And if you look even a little closer you will see that a lot of Karate Dojo(s) were found around US bases.
1banryukyu very informative ichibanryukyu, thank you.
Osu
i go kung fu class im number one my teacher is chinease his name is wei shen
"strike with the claw"
LOL
he forgot a Kamehameha ;)
+BlackDiamond He also forgot to sweep the leg.
He also forgot to restomp the groin
@@GuyInAHotdogSuit69 Mercy is for the weak. Sounds famillar?
Man that guy doing the karate was killing me, he was so off balance the entire time. His form wasn't very good and like I said the worst part was his lack of balance in his strikes. It looked like maybe he was trying to put too much power into his strikes creating the imbalance, either way he needs a lot more training from a good school.
Are you a martial artist yourself?
My brother is a black belt in Shaolin Do Kung Fu
Plus Bruce Lee fought the best guy in the world at the time in karate. Bruce literally played within him. Karate is no match for king fu/tai chi or even Judo or Brazilian Jui Jitzu
@Bob's Your Uncle karate did not come from kung fu alone, most of it is japanese jujutsu developed in okinawa, then it got a chinese influence and developed alone
@@grantsmythe8625 go to a kyokushin or k1 tournament then come back and tell the same thing about karate. Also what does the mean? You phrased this as these two martial arts are inferior from Kung Fu which is at the very least laughable.
Karate comes from Kung Fu so I know with equally skilled masters, Kung Fu would dominate because of its variations and creativeness, it does not limit itself. Also "Iron Shirt"? You can't mess with that!Shaolin Kung Fu!
I love training Iron Shirt!
@@RealKungFu give me iron
My Father was a Wing Chung instructor and I learned from him. In the last 8 years I've trained with an awesome karate Sensei and really appreciate the wisdom in both styles. It's so good to see some videos that show this breadth of wisdom rather than the usual one style is better than the other silliness.
Kung Fu VS Karate (Bruce Lee VS Chuck Norris)....Which/Who is Superior? Tell me Below:
Stefan Milisavljevic thats a very simplistic view!
Stefan Milisavljevic Chuck was a world champion and thats no mean feat
Miganarchine Thats coz he was taught by Bruce Lee! Hehe end of discussion
Miganarchine Taught more anyway...Chuck was still competing in a Karate tournament
Karate is originally a variation of Crying Crane Kungfu. Kara-te use to be written as 唐手 = Tang(China) Fist
Sorry, but I have to say that.... Many of the comments here remind me those old chinese movies where they say: "my style is better than yours". Come guys, let's grow up a little bit. We don't need to prove anyone that our (write your martial art's name here) style is the best. In my humble opinion, we should stick to what we love to practice and be happy. Have friends from other martial art styles to exchange knowledge helps us to become better fighters. Peace.
yes sir u r right
Do you think your Wu-Tang sword can defeat ME???
I wanted to learn a martial art when I was 14 and I have put it off for years because of money and I recently decided to go to a free Kung Fu taster lesson because of your (Jake Mace's) videos! I loved it so much, however money is stopping me getting to my local club even though it is amazing but your videos provide enough inspiration to keep me wanting to learn and I loved doing Kung Fu but hopefully one day I will be able to join a club full time and learn properly! Also my eating habits have changed after seeing you grow your own plants and use them for nutrition! I never ate fruit or vegetables at all and now I eat them everyday and it is making me healthier everyday too.
That is why I would like to thank you Jake! You're a great inspiration, I will be a subscriber of yours until RUclips ends or until you stop making videos and even then I will go back and watch any videos I have missed before! :)
Keep up the great work! :)
Great video! And a great reflection at the end: way too often folks get into arguments about what style or school is the best, but it's so true that it just depends on having a good teacher and working hard. Very respectful!
I agree Peter! Thanks!
You really inspire me Jake! My parents and I can't afford martial arts training but I like to work out with what I have :) Keep doing what you're doing because you are helping many!!
Thanks Kirbycathy! My best!
I'm no expert but one seems offensive and the other defensive. I think BOTH can be lethal in there own way. Great video in learning these moves.
the way i see it, karate is tough and straightforward, kung fu is beautiful and elegant. i love kung fu!!!
I very much appreciate your efforts to keep traditional martial arts alive!
Its not that I am an expert, but a fight does not go on in a mathematical fashion as it is analyzed in the video. There are no three most prominent moves in Karate from my little understanding of the art. Anything that suits the circumstances becomes prominent for that moment. If these are the defenses in Kung fu to the Karate techniques, there are counters to the defenses too. But the question is how well the person executes those defensive and countering techniques in a fight.
+Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace, thank you for this great video. This is the sort of cooperation that I'd like to see more of between different styles. Really enjoyed the effort put in to show the different angle takes to showcase the techniques and the explanations to support them. And also nice work with the great looking location you guys picked, even though I know how hard it can be to do these demonstration with running shoes and a gravel surface haha.
Would you guys mind now trying the reverse of these techniques? i.e. the most "common" Kung Fu techniques and allow Spencer Hinde to use Karate to block and counter? As a Karateka I'd be very interested.
Cheers!
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very nice explanations, the different angles were very helpful, you both respect your different styles and that just makes things awesome :) thank you for the video!
That is a beautiful Kung Fu demonstration. You are a fine martial artist. Thank you for sharing this video.
Thank you Colin!
Thank you very much Jake for this good example of some soft and circular movements from the animal styles of Kung fu, it gave me a really good idea to figure out some special moves of my Kung Fu style against mae geri, yoko geri and of course the straight Tsuki punch from Shotokan Karate....I am studying and take some lessons from Wing Tsun nowadays. My former styles were Karate Shotokan style (First Kyu Brown belt), Kickboxing (Third Dan), Taekwondo (First Dan). Your moves took really my intention to study the classic animal styles of Kung fu,,,,,, Thank you so much for this awesome piece of workout, it gave me a little idea for the inspiration to get deeper to the roots. My next style will be the the Wudang system. I subscribed to channel and looking forward to other videos from you with similar theories and comparative movements of antagonistic fighting styles. Go further dear Sifu.
your weight shifting and footwork are incredible, do you have any back ground videos where you talk about your master/ training experience?
I know nothing about martial arts and I found this video to be very informative and interesting. I love how it showed the differences between Karate and Kung Fu quickly and easily for someone like me to understand how they can be utilized.
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Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace srsly kung fu / tai chi is unbeatable
/ do you know the priest pai mei ?
SHRUIKAN Bai Mei has some great legends!!! :)
could you do a video about one of his fight techniques like eagle claw ?
i want to vearse you
can you do a video trying this in a real kyokushin tournament???
I am really glad I found your channel. I have been doing taekwondo for about 14 years now and have been starting to take some Tai Chi classes as well. I like what you said at 6:57. Way to many people always have the debate about which martial arts is better and which one can beat what. I to believe that it is the person and teacher that makes you better at martial artist but I also believe that you fight the way you train and you train the way you fight. I am glad to see someone who truly understands what martial arts is. I hope to learn more from you Jake Mace.
I agree on everything! Also, I noticed that the community on this channel is one of the most comprehensive of martial arts and the less toxic one I found on RUclips. Usually the comments in martial arts videos are filled with "dat don works in realz life bro!!1 u SUX! U dont evun do mma FAG!" but on his channel it's pretty rare :)
+Maxime Filion The guy deletes comments that are critical of his made-up styles...so most of the comments you see are glowing and telling him how awesome he is.
Dude I want to thank you, I've always been into kungfu typed movies but not so long ago I started going to a shaolin kung fu school and started watching your videos 3-4 months ago. Perhaps you don't even bother reading this but if you do I want you to know that you've been a really big help for me and I like spreading your teachings to my friends and family. I hope you have a good day sir, thank you so much for the videos and keep up the good work, I speak for all of us when I say that I truly respect you!
Thank you so much Sir Awesomeville! I love comments like this! :) Train hard and have fun! :)
I love how it's not one sided. The video gives a wide range of both marshal arts
I dont know anything about kung fu but I do have decades of karate experience and this karate guys center of gravity is much to high and his over extending in his technique which results in low power and stability.
the comparison of fighting styles is utter nonsense and pointless
agreed on your excellent analysis. although on the part of comparing fighting styles I must disagree, if the criterium is about effectiveness. there is absolutely a lot of difference in effectiveness between different styles. some are purely esthetic and useless in a real fight or selfdefense situation, and some are sufficiently realistic to provide the practitioner with serieus fighting skills. practically all of them have basic striking techniques but there is variation in the practicality of them, plus just knowing some striking techniques without having trained to apply them dynamically and effectively, and to be able to take some as well, is just too far from enough. not to mention other essential elements such as distances, grappling, weapons, and multiple opponents. however if the criterium is purely about esthetics, then it is solely a matter of taste and art in the meaning of esthetic art, not art in the meaning of practical skill. my opinion is however that martial arts pretend to teach practical skills, and therefor they should fulfill that promise or not pretend it in the first place. for example, I've never had a judoka pretend to know how to fight, although interestingly I'm sure a good judoka can wipe the floor with most of the best Kung Fu practitioners, all of whom do nothing but pretend to be good fighters, even to the point of claiming mystical supernatural powers.
+BlackDiamond oh yeah i see your point. Theres is room for comparison of styles with criteria.
You mentioned some martial arts teach skills aesthetically (as we say "flowery and pretty") and look like they are pretending (or symbolic of real application), and that skills should but taught on there practical application only. But i believe martial arts are still art in the same way painting and music is art. And most I techniques that i teach, i start with the traditional execution of the technique and teach application or how its used in real life later, sometimes never. learning the real life application of the technique is earnt through correct demonstration of the traditional technique.
i dont think any teacher advocates students getting into real fights. but ill admit a younger less wiser me did a few times and what I learnt about martial arts of those few minutes could have been missed had It never happened.
+Michael Chambers absolutely right kung fu guy defense has too many step and also look more like it focus on it artistic side more than on the defensive side lol.karate defense is lot betetr as most defense is either only 1 step or mostly 2steps
You mean you didn't switch off after the rising front kick. You MIGHT pass red belt with a kick like that in our Dojo, but then again you might not! Warm regards...
+Portabledexter I'm sure in your Dojo every kick, every time is perfect, right? Film it and post it them. Mouth.
I think your demeanor is exceptional, and your devotion to the art is inspiring.
Could you do a video of you properly sparring with someone? I think it'd be interesting to see what fighting styles you use out of the martial arts you practice.
YES! We will have a whole sparring series coming up!
TehSkalias Sparring? Put some gloves on a go at it. You will soon see what works and what doesn't.
@@RealKungFu is your sparring videos ever gonna come out or you are too busy making onlyfans for your chick ?😂😂😂😂
Hilarious moves as always! Thanks Jace, keep up the good work.
don't fall into the cactuses. what a recipe for disaster. At the beginning the Mae-geri looked more like a Kin-geri. This Karate guy is suspect. I am a yellow belt and even I can see errors. He's probably a solid black belt though - easier said than done.
+leusgs I'd even go as far as to say that it looked a bit like a mae ashi geri, given that it was his front foot kicking. Then again I don't have that much experience with karate but with jujutsu. We kick with the back leg for the mae geri. Perhaps it's different in karate?
Greg's Garage I'm a brown belt in kwanmukan- shotokan karate, and I agree. He's making a lot of errors, example he's leaning way too much.
I’ve been doing Karate for 7 years, since I was 7 years old , so to everyone who says “there the same thing”, there is a huge difference, more than you could ever imagine. (I’d be up for answering any questions asked to me as well)
Karate stance is wrong... is back foot should always be in full contact with the ground for a better transfer of strenght.
AWARHERO Everything is wrong in all of his videos. Why do you even try !?
AWARHERO there's so many different styles of karte buddy
Being myself a 2nd degree Shotokan black belt and having trained in Japan... I do know that there is a lot of "different" style of Kara-te. All deriving from the same original art.
What i see here is simply wrong technically.
You are joking... right?? I mean IF you were serious in your comment, i must assume you never seen REAL Shotokan karate before. May i suggest NEVER try to fight against a Shotokan Black belt for fun to prove your point. Shotokan is a ONE strike combat style. Not for demonstration at all.
@Mitchell Cidade: Yes, there are a lot of different styles but bad technique transcend styles.
Now THAT is the real spirit of karate and kung fu good on you both!!
Tell Me Below....Which is better KARATE or KUNG FU? :)
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Kung Fu.
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace i playing kung fu its better
Kung fu it has defence and attack but karate has only attack and little defence leaving them weak when a strong Kung fu move swoops on them
Yoke Wong WongさんVery strange comment. Mr. Gichin Funakoshi the founder of 松濤館空手 or Shotokan Karate has a very famous quote:"空手に先手なし or there is no first strike in Karate.". From 那覇手(Naha Te) and 首里手(Shuri Te), 泊(Tomari Te) all have very strong defense.
Excellent Crane Kung Fu parry block, body rotation, elbow to head / reverse heel to groin
Being a traditional style karate 2nd degree black belt this was shaming he had bad form, bad balance and he choose bad moves. He wasn't even looking at his opponent.
white people list Kung fu styles:
-Aligator
-cat
-mouse
-fish
-bear
-iron fist
-mantis
-crane
-crouching tiger
karate style:
-hi ya
-chop
-scream out loud as you can
-kick ass
-black belt
-chuck norris
TheJofrica I would be mad, but that was funny as fuck😂
THE PHANDOM IS EVERYWHERE
If only i could become your disciple,you technique and understanding of the arts,and teachers show that you would be an excellent teacher
Gotta love all those keyboard kung fu masters in here.
I like the idea of mixing styles and using what ever technique is appropriate for any given situation. I am not a martial artist, but if I were I would probably incorporate a variety of styles in my fighting (Kung Fu, Karate, Judo, Boxing, Grappling, street fighting, etc.).
Hey jake could you show us some of xingyiliuhequan kung fu (hui martial arts)
I am a karate and taï chi practitioner. As a general comment to Jack's videos I would say they're of great quality and nitpicking over minor potential flaws is not budo spirit. Keep up the good work!
There's a better way to deal with this opponent.
Yes, there are many paths!
I really enjoyed this video! It shows a great way of both Kung Fu and Karate in a real fight, I'm currently just getting started with Taekwon-do but I've studied Kung Fu via your channel at home, keep it up Jake! You're a true inspiration. :) btw, I tsuki'd that like button ;)
Haha!!! Thanks BattleNoa! "Tsuki"!!! :)
People are going to get hurt in real life if trying to protect themselves with these moves. Put on some gloves and actually spare if you want to prove the effectiveness of this. This would look good in the movies, or might work against someone who doesn't know anything about fighting, but never against someone who has some training.
Exactly. This is just as bad as aikido.
Sanshou is pretty good
Master Teddy
I agree. Sanshou is legit.
Sanshou is just copying muy tai but adding throws. The techniques are more similar to muy tai than traditional kung fu, which should be the case because a muy tai guy would beat up someone who only knows kung fu. The Chinese govt probably realized how bad kung fu was in competition and started copying styles that work.
Just you dont see it in mma deosnt mean that it doesnt work. Especially if the person has never seen it before
cool video jake I practice both karate and kung fu and its great for me to combine these techniques together now that I saw this thanks
Thanks for the feedback and complement SuperDwight!
No problem
Typical example of what Joe Rogan was talkin about. "You come at me like this, i got tiger claw here, crane stuff here and HA, you dead" bullshit type of nonrealistic sparring that exemplifies what majority of kung fu and karate are like.
+EdDy4RheelZ are you special?
+Kokainuser Did you read the part where I said majority? Yes, there r few good kung fu styles too like Sanshou/Sanda, n Shuai Jiao n practiced by few good or decent fighters like Cung Le. For karate, its mostly kyokushin n their offsprings, such as seido kaikan, seido juku, etc that proved karates effectiveness. Gsp, andy hug, machida, uriah hall all have trained karate. But guess what? Theyre effective styles of karate, not bullshit like shorinryu, wado ryu, goju ryu, etc.
+Kokainuser no, not true. That is true for karate though. And the same goes for muay thai and boxing. You never saw a real kung fu fight, have you?
***** Hey buddy!
What's happening, Gokulnfintysaiyan!
thanks for the badass videos jake
one of my favorite martial artists on youtube
Xie Xie Wolfgang!
Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace nice Chinese
But perhaps Wolfgang doesn't know it means thank you....
That's not a good front kick very weak. In karate you do your front kick with the ball of the feet curling the toes Back. roundhouse kick in karate is with top of foot but doing this in front kick is weak and will break your foot probably. Anyone else agree?
I agree
I totally agree with you about using the ball of the feet when you do the Mae geri. However he's wearing shoes so he cannot using the ball of the feet. Therefore he uses his instep to go for opponent's chin or his heel to go for the body. I guess
People hating on karate kid 2010 movie because of kung fu and I keep thinking...
"What a difference between karate and kung fu? It look the same and similar to me"
I keep trying to understand a different.
This is kinda help me understand. I mean, you try. Thank for this video. Wish I could learn more about what a difference between kung fu and karate kid
this man even don't know karate he's not doing the karate moves corectly
thank you for being simple enough to understand but profound in wisdom !
Do a vid Ninjutsu vs Kung fu
Bo Staff Good Idea!
Bo Staff Shortest video ever! Ninja faces off against Kung Fu man... Audience waits patiently. Kung Fu man falls over dead, victim of an earlier poisoning by his camera man, who was secretly a ninja the whole time. Remember, if you ever really see a ninja, then either you did not know it, or you died shortly thereafter. In which case you are not reading this, so you cannot argue.
+Bo Staff ninjutsu is not a fighting styel... ninja or shinobi did regular jujutsu or kobudo in general ;)
no offence tho...
+Max Paspirgilis sorry but that's incorrect. they had they own style, different from samurai jujutsu and based on different principles of movement and tactics.
@BlackDiamond that is a wide sprat misinformation wich comes mostly from old legends, japanese ww2 propaganda and hollywood... all ninja where samurai or ashigaru and thus where traind in differend koryu styles. nijutsu is the art of spys, recon troops and assassins but not fighting...
Very nice video, cool guest thank you, I'm found of karate and I would love to see him again on your channel :3
Karate is too rigid.
Kung Fu is free flowing.
+Son Goku I've found the opposite. Then again there is such a thing as being too free flowing. Look up "drunken boxing".
+Frample Tromwibbler karate get hard on moment of impact so we are pretty relax in a fight lol cuz the more relax you are the better your technique will be
opposite????? i can not remember that karate has internal training.
relaxing is in all martial arts important.
Despite what people say here I love this guys videos not everything needs perfection for the lesson to be taught
To be honest shotokan karate (what I train in) would win
Kyokushin is the superior form of karate.
mike tags Against this guy? Definitely. Depends on the style of kung fu though. Shotokan (from what I've seen) seems territorial, however if you fought someone who does wing chun, it may make it more difficult to win.
mike tags It depends on the Kung Fu style, I train Kung Fu Fei In, and on the 1st training our teacher told the new students: "Do not expect to become fighters fast. A karate guy who has trained 2 years of karate would defeat a Kung Fu Fei In guy who has spent 2 yrs training that style. But, Karate is a lot more limited(I trained Shotokan, it is full of bullshit now that I know some real fighting moves), and after another year or two, the karate guy's improvement will have slowed a lot, and urs will be going even faster. You need to train years to become fighters and I wont give up on you." Fei In basically means flying eagle and has everything in it. And the more I learn from it the deeper it gets, and my imagination becomes better and better, I can recreate fights in my head like never before due to the moves I have learned. Although I havent trained for 3 months because my leg got operated I still want to train it and study it.
mike tags I have 9 kyu in Shotokan, I agree. :) sorry the front kick esp was leg not tucked under rear to start with and hight level of head up and down movement and body motion moving back. Punches need to be more tucked in and rolled out loose then clench only on final. I think this video is some good help for basics ideas, but the basics here are not of Japan. Waltham abbey JKA Club UK basics 99% of the work in training even by made by Sensei each time it has to be correct or you cannot progress. I have not trained in 15 years and I remember what it is to make 9th Kyu for JKA 2 to 3 years training. 5+ times black belts at club will train basics for weeks or the complete time in their career it is not forgotten for anyone at any time. Good luck. Yes Shotokan is best effective.
mike tags Shotokan does not have San Chin kata. That is my sole reason for not liking it. Therefore DEATH TO SHOTOKAN! Also, learn about San Chin Kata from Goju, Isshin, or Shorin Ryu karate. Totally badass, and it will step up your game.
..Done my first Karate lessong tonight. Cool Video Guys.
Bad karateka. Bad.
BlackDiamond What he said ^^^ His side kick was a spinning back kick in one shot.
***** correct. Everything should at least be kyokushin style, or any other full contact based style.. We are talking about FIGHT sports, not aerobics, here right? Anyway I don't see how his technique could be considered proper in any style..
***** I'm not talking about full throttle, I'm talking about proper techniques that would actually have a practical effect in a fight, which is what martial arts are supposed to be about. Martial in this context means fight. Everything this guy does here will not happen like that in a real fight. It's a fantasy fight.
***** oh man where do I start.. First of all I'm pretty issue-free. I just comment and correct some mistakes and certain delusions that are very persistent in the world of martial arts. For example another one u you just stated; Kung Fu is in no way similar to traditional boxing. It was called Chinese boxing by the British in Hong Kong because boxing at the time was the only striking fight sport the British knew, but obviously it was different and hence CHINESE boxing and not just 'boxing'. My mind is so open I need to build a roof on it. It seems that you arm the one stuck on unrealistic dogmas. Also, you did it again. Your statement about what exists outside the octagon is a strawman, as I never commented on that. The choice is not between Kung Fu and the octagon, at best the choice posed here is between karate and Kung Fu and although that's not what I originally commented on, I did later explain that karate would then be the realistic choice because this style of Kung Fu displayed here is not realistic. To expand on that statement, only full contact kickboxing type styles of Kung Fu, like Sanda or San Shou for example, are realistic even just a little bit only. Your statement about 'tricks' lacks every nuance and is basically another noob dogma. I'm the end it is about the most practical system of techniques and the most practical experience. Kung Fu is usually nothing but tough acting ballet, and never have I seen any Kung Fu practitioner use Kung Fu effectively against any decently trained fighter. It teaches only very marginally effective strikes and kicks into the air, usually with form over effect, and no actual fighting skills beyond that. As for Kung Fu styles, pretty much only San Shou and wing chun do anything related to realistic full contact sparring and they are by design still extremely limited in terms of practicality. Conclusion is still the same.
***** lol sure I'm the complete idiot... I did give substantial arguments, you are the one that didn't. U just keep creating strawman fallacies and polarising the discussion, which is what is really not only childish but shows your total commitment to childish and uninformed dogmas. I've given mature and realistic arguments, moreover my arguments come from a lifetime of practical experience whereas yours clearly come from your ass. Anyway, you have now shifted the discussion to ad hominems, another fallacy of which you're apparently unaware that it only makes u look uninformed,
unintelligent and immature. Not only that but you are now stating total misconceptions like Kung Fu being similar to traditional boxing. Are you aware that any one with any knowledge of boxing will now dismiss you as a total fool? Also, again you come up with a self imagined conclusion about my persona. I never said anything about MMA or my opinion about it. Didn't even mention it. Yet u conclude something about me all by yourself in your own fantasy. Also you state that I'll ''come across the wrong person and be humbled ''. Lol seriously? You don't know anything about me dude. Besides that, neither this video nor the general discussion was about me so I'll take your frustration and attempts at insult as an admittance of your lack of knowledge and arguments. I wasn't even set out to make u look like a fool but u not-so-gracefully took it upon yourself to prove it to everybody and take away all doubt. That's quite amusing especially considering you call yourself 'zenmaster'. So I guess you don't even know what that is all about either. :) thanks for being entertaining, as in, you know, like a clown. Since u make it so clear you don't have any insightful comments or arguments but only immature fallacies, this discussion is over and you can go back to your homework.
I really appreciate this vid. It really differentiates between karate and Kung fu. When I was a kid, I couldn't tell the difference, and in some cases, I still can't. It's good to learn the difference
This video does not do Karate justice. You picked the three most basic attacks that can be found in just about any martial art. If you wanted to showcase karate, you should have demonstrated 3 karate techniques in addition to the 3 kung fu techniques.
Those kicks and punches do not look like traditional karate kicks and punches at all and as far as the kung fu goes, it doesn’t seem like those moves would have a lot of practical value in a fight.
Those kung fu moves would not have a lot of practical value at all, because they aren't even kung fu moves. They're vaguely similar, but it looks very much like he saw the moves once, imitated them, and filled in all the conceptual blanks on how to use it on his own.
Mae geri with the upper part of the foot, Yoko geri without proper hip control and tsuki almost falling... he could at least call Jesse to try one of these things, his form is flawless
"Mas Oyama level iron toughness" - Took me a while to catch that you said this :D
Nice reference, but that level of toughness is just shy of impossible ;)
5:42 those are the worst chewdan punches ive ever seen
donald palmer Oh big time!
So far, I've studied 'white crane kung fun... good training video... ruva
Kung Fu is superior to Karate
+Zenmaster Jared True. But non of them are so good as a delicious Biscuit.
Uranium_Roc you've been watching too much hong Kong cinema...
For anyone who is watching the video, I'm just a Karate Green Confirmed belt, but if you wanna listen to my tip I know that the techniques were performed differently to the way they were tought to me, I learned that the front kick pushes towards the enemy hitting with the body part called in japaneese "Koshi", it does not hit point upwards; this performed kick is called "Kin-geri" (I don't actually know how you spell it sorry). The fist was good, but in karate we must have form and control of our body so you must keep your feet completely on the floor, the hip turns inwards to give the punch the needed power to strike and to keep good form. Finally the side kick, so I've read the comments and... the first kick performed was good, it's hard to turn your feet so you actually hit with the japaneese bodypart called "Sokuto" (Sword part of the feet, the side part of the foot in fact is likely to a sword) the kicks performed in second part, with Jake's block were not Yoko-geri. The performed kick is in fact named "Ushiro-geri". I hope you appreciate my knowledge and to help anyone, I'd like to mention again this is how things were taught to me ^^
This is bad kung-fu not useful in real situations. The other guy dies stiff Karate not used even in sport combats.
I do not agree. Shaolin king fu I's considered one of the best.
I love your videos you remind me of my teacher in Israel I trained at Or-Bar Jerusalem you put me back on track after my service in the IDF (the reason I couldn't continue at the Or - Bar)
Keep uploading videos
Thanks Joel - We will!
kung fu is better
It's not about the martial art it's about the martial artist like someone said.
Love from England Jake! Great video.
I am really looking forward to studying the animal shaolin moves in this one :)
Hello to you in England!!! :)
kung fu vs kickboxing! not karate
+Calebe Lino It's Karate. Mae Geri is a blow of karate
finnaly some who knows some kerate why did he say chodan when he punched to the smomach
Exactly. Thank you.
That's karate.
It’s karate, kick boxing isn’t that civilised.
Nice production, clear explanation, beautiful setting!
Both are frauds
Well, the good part of this performance is that it is not a confrontation to prove what is the best.
Awesome moves!!
Best channel for marshal art
The technique of the karateka is so sharp and controlled. Beautiful to watch! Karate is an amazing art
I watched your tonfa video and bought myself some tonfas today. Really helpful exercises!
Nice! I love the Tonfa!
jake you're awesome thanks for the videos .
Thank you
A really enjoy the training
Very, very well.
Thanks a lot.
Excellent video! I found the volume was very low during the instruction and very high at the end, even though my volume was as high as it goes. Very impressive. I'm going to look for videos on how to handle being caught off guard and knocked down. That's what happened to my son in elementary school so I'd like to see how that's handled in martial arts. Thanks for this great video!
lol great video. I just learned the tiger claw was to strengthen the palm. I always thought in the movie that it was used just to scratch the opponent's face lol
I really appreciate your videos bud. You are an awesome dude.
This isn't traditional karate, this is kickboxing.
And every time he hits, his shoulder goes up...
Still great video👍
My friend Spencer Hinde uses his Karate training to show us 3 different Karate movements. Then, we show 3 Kung Fu techniques from Tiger Kung Fu, Crane, Kung Fu, and Bird Kung Fu which would be well suited to deal with this attack from our Karate expert! Kung Fu vs Karate - which is superior? Tell me in the comments below!
I like how your partner performs the Yoko Geri, with his grounded foot turning to the opposite direction for the extra ounce of power. As for which style is better, I have no idea lol.
Good stuff...I agree with your insight for the question, "Which Martial art is better." Its really not the style that matters but a person's skill, knowledge, and abilities, that will determine who or what is better... Thank you for sharing.
modernmarvel Yes, He's the Man!
Can I spar any of you? I can use my kyokushin on you and my chinese kempo on your friend and by the way black tiger technique? I would you to show me that in person can we agree to meet in your dojo?
digtongo Kyokushin FTW! I love the way you train. I have no idea where to find one of your dojo's so I have to walk through bad neighborhoods and hope to get mugged. Now stop terrorizing the kids, they cant hang.
Hello, first thank you for all the amazing videos, you inspire me Jake to be a better person and I am sure you do to many people. I have little experience with kung fu, and tail chi in the choylee fut system and some of Shotokan karate (I am not sure if I spelled it correctly) and I can say that both have their own set of skills that it depends on how the individual follows its foundation and principles. Some people prefer karate because they believe it fits them, but I am pretty flexible like yourself by saying that both are competent depending on both the instructor and the student. I recently became involved in kung fu again and picking it up after 20 years, I am 35 now I feel I still feel like I have it within me. I would like to get more involved and possibly train harder to promote a healthier and better version of myself. Keep making great videos because you are definitely inspiring many young people out there. Best of luck and wishes, always.
It's alright it's good to see different styles. It's nice 👍🏽 and you're very humble as a martial artist. It's good to see different options.
another great option after the turn away from a basic side kick is to then use your left leg to sweep using great follow through. (O Soto Gari).this option would actually be preferred over the previously proposed sweep option.
I like the end "10 different schools, 10 different experiences." It's true.
Great video jake. One's style is only as good as the one doing it. The mind is the best weapon. One mind any weapon. Be water my friend.
I'm a Wing Chun practicioner and I approve this message!
I like Karate,but Kung fu is the one for me!
All thoes animal styles are so great!
So Exotic!
1.4 million views for this dribble! OMG!!! You’re the definitive salesman Jake!