Loving how close these series are! I really wish LCS was this fun to watch but I'm glad we have both LPL and LCK for competitive matches with highly skilled players
ive said it before but your stream commentating is so damn interesting and educational. easily one of my favorite casters out of so many years of watching esports
the only fun thing this season for T1 is they're trying to come out from their comfort zone comparing to last season that they just literally spam Veigo/LS, Jinx/Aphe, Naut/Thresh, Jayce
Zeus is so amazing in this Season he can do any champs Tank or Carry Top Champs doesn't problem from him than Khan and Canna who playing Carry Champs and struggling in Tank Champs in Last Season..
I've been watching lots of T1 vids and notice that all of them hold something like a stress relieving pack like oner at 20:16, anyone knows what those are?
She's still broken for me, but because there's a lot of mobility broken champs that can easily get closer to Senna in terms of positioning, I'd say she's bad in high elo.
T1 looks like 5 superstar players who are just soo talented that they win purely on individual skills. which is a bad thing cause when they go to worlds, and face teams that has more practiced teamplay, macro, and drafting correctly, they will be at a disadvantage. Kind of reminds me of TES in 2020. They were called the meta-defying team in 2020 because they had superstars players that would just pick comfort and style on other teams in LPL.
@@zeinmets3550 uhh I watch a lot of T1 games and their team play is super uncoordinated. They would just win because a players would win a 2v1 or someone get a monster 5 man ult in a team fight or some shit. Look at MSI final as an example, they were so lost on how to win because they don't have 3 winning lane anymore.
@@faketruth7740 I think they're 2 steps ahead...... They play this series without early-game macro. They're not only out of their comfort zone in their comp, but also in game strategy, such as a lot of early-game teamfight, which they don't need to do it during Spring season.
Korean has some weird fetish for Kalista. It's really a bad pick in pro. She might be good right now, but pick Kalista and you lose in LCK. It's like Renekton.
No offense but I've been watching all the LCK and LPL games and I think LPL's top 3-4 teams are significantly better than LCK's top teams rn. Doesn't even feel close. I think on just T1: Oner, Zeus, maybe Keria are at LPL level but their other laners are a liability.
Exactly what everyone said last year pre worlds.Only 2 lpl teams managed to get to playoffs. You will probably reply EDG won. It's not the topic.Top 3-4 teams is. Thank you
@@paskinelaidasani1356 FPX had a lot of internal disorder last year with Tian being unable to play due to his wrist injury and nuguri being inactive in comms or in general. Also if you saw the way the regions were matched up EDG had to play vs a CN team before they played versus DWG which eliminated one of their potential region candidates. That's why some people after seeing EDG vs DWG said the finals were basically EDG vs that CN team since it was more closer even though the stakes were less since it was CN vs CN.
guma really needs to come back in form if t1 wants to win worlds cuz the one thing that's absolutely certain for this team is that faker will choke in high pressure situations
@@teddyejendens8072 yeah, he's lost every semis and finals after 2017 because he doesn't have the clutch factor anymore, regional trophies don't count because lck isn't the strongest region anymore, if it was 2015 and skt won lck then they would undeniably be the best team, but not now
@@abirmahmud2242 doesn’t have the clutch factor? Did you watch msi? Faker literally was breaking both caps and xiaohu’s ankles with akali and leblanc, you must’ve missed the lissandra baron incident as well
@@abirmahmud2242 you can't say he lost every semis AND finals after 2017 since he won't even get to the finals if he lost every semis. If faker doesn't have the clutch factor anymore because he hasn't won an international title for 5 years then what about all the other top pro players who doesn't even have an international title including several great lpl players. I guess faker set the bar too high for himself.
@@Trollthem yeah but in game 1 he died twice before cashing in, and i'm almost certain a few days ago he also had a game where it took him 20+ minutes to get his first kill after 7 or 8 assists
T1 having hard times whenever they face KDF is that ex-members know T1 too well. (Teddy, Elim & Hoit). They were used to the playstyles, what time they will roam and places for the ward location. Keria is the game changer for T1 but he mostly couldn't perform when facing KDF because Teddy is fully aware of what Keria is going to do.
Game 2 was insane by Zeus. KDF had like 2 smites (jg and ahri) + kalista rend and still lost baron to Oner cause Zeus did so much by himself in that baron pit.
I disagree. This roster has gone to Worlds and MSI. You can't say they're not used to the pressure when they literally went undefeated the entire spring.
@@Geheimnis-c2e Nah only once they've been in world and all of them is under 20 except Faker. Went undefeated meant they are rarely got in trouble, in this case KDF is the one who stop their undefeated too.
@@mukamuka0 i wouldnt say they rarely get into trouble, almost half their matches in spring went to 3 games and they've had a few tough 3 games series this split too
The faker ult in first game on topside might be a setting that I also use...quick cast+self cast...so what happens is that if you want to use a shiled or heal on an ally and your cursor is not on their character, the spell will be self casted...so if I want to use kayle R on a teammate and I miss him I'll use it on myself and troll the game=)))...but it helps a lot when you want to kite or Idk just as a fast way to protect yourself while casting other things on the enemy...it is helpful, but there gwen stopwatched (so she was untargetable) and I think Faker already pressed R so it ended up looking goofy:)))
KDF in a nutshell. Game1, styled on T1, game2, Ellin ints it twice in 4mins botside 😂 Inconsistency, but on the brightside, they’ve shown they have SOMETHING there that can compete with one of the best if not the best team in LCK. But inconsistency plagues them.
The Ashe pick is to counter kalista. Keri as thought process is probably that he can make the game almost unplayable for Kalista because her dash is countered by slows and Picking Ashe adc is such low dmg
Dont worry T1 fans this is normal, afreeca freeks always plays t1 the hardest. They have alot of ex t1 players probably know most of their tendencys and play styles better than most especially teddy.
KDF has some of the crazy lv1 lv2 strats i have ever seen. they think they can win standar so like any great team they try new stuff but unfortunate skt had a crazy read on game to and game 3 skt stayed diciplined are not scared to a salty run back one of the best serious KDF showed alot of Enginuity.
I think it's safe to say now that Guma is overrated. It's seriously all just thanks to his teammates especially his support keria that he's had his pop off moments. Look how many mistakes he's made now that he's playing against a good adc player.
Partially, but I do think he used to be a lot better than this. I wouldn't claim he was 'the best in the world' at any point, but I do think he was really one of the best adcs out there at one point, as questionable as he's looked this year.
@@simone8172 I think it's obvious why he kinda had his great moments in the past. It's mainly due to meta being in his favor, Jinx/Aphelios being op back then certainly helped as those were the only champs he's actually really good at. Also, the lck teams just had their.new rosters and is in the process of building synergies + covid shit affecting other teams especially geng.
@@xianele2913 thanks for pointing that out Zeus missed his ult too lmao. T1 trying some surgcal over the top shit. Oner is the only one who landed his shit and is trying to fix their mistakes.
I don't know much from a recent player perspective as I don't play anymore, but wouldn't something like Lucian just be a better pick than Draven for just about every aspect? Huge damage, mobility, decent range... the ability to actually get some damage off in these fights where Draven can't even walk up. Just seems weird to pick it 3 games in a row when it doesn't seem to provide a ton of value that you can't get from other champions.
One weakness of lucian in proplay is that he can only go with nami, which is not a very meta sup and lucian nami get clapped by kalista renata or kalista allistar so ….
Draven scales better than Kalista and can scale really fast with his passive, basically getting her out of the game even earlier. Also in the fights he is hitting the whole time but he was only able to hit who was in front of him, he didn’t want to int his stacks away and lose the chance of getting 1250 gold.
@@tranthekhang2666 Thank you for the insight. How come he can only go with Nami? That's the only way he does real damage or something? Also thanks to all you guys for the input
@@KingJerbear that’s kind of a team comp in which in proplays they practice and yes, lucian NEEDS nami in order to get some real damage, cuz nami will bring electrocute and when she buff him he can deal damage with both runes which is press the attack and electrocute. Just then can he litterally melt down the enemy
teddy knows T1s secrets
ppl might think that T1 being unstable is abnormal, but if u a og LCK watcher u know that T1 is having one of their best LCK summer season
True, T1 rarely is at the top of the table in summer
idk whats up with t1 and summer seasons lmao, they show up for playoffs tho (we don't talk about 2020)
And 2018
@@clowdydew never talk about 2020 lol 💀
@@clowdydew They shouldn't have subbed Faker in after Game 1 of that series against Afreeca. By doing that they ruined the confidence of both
Loving how close these series are! I really wish LCS was this fun to watch but I'm glad we have both LPL and LCK for competitive matches with highly skilled players
In every sport, there's always that one mid to crap team that the best team always seems to struggle against. Looks like it's true even in esports
The time stamps are really use full thanks
wolf was so fucking mad at kdf in game 3 lmao
Is that the coach?
Wolf commentator or Wolf (T1) or another Wolf?
@@brucecheis9653 the english commentator, ngl he kinda annoyed me
@@brucecheis9653 ohh I only watch the English ones or caedrel so I didn’t know
Ladies and gentlemen please shut up and witness how gorgeous Zeus Ornn pick is.
True. He did insane
ive said it before but your stream commentating is so damn interesting and educational. easily one of my favorite casters out of so many years of watching esports
We LOVE the long videos! Thank you!
It's like KDF primed themselves to beat T1 and nothing else
have the same feeling here
Those insane knockups from Zeus in Game 2, That's sure ace without the durability patch weeks ago. He knockup KDF so many much.
Really appreciate the 30 min video!
@caedral, thanks for listening to my request. means a lot
Still think Faker deserved that pog in game 3. His Taliyah totally changed the outcome of the game.
the only fun thing this season for T1 is they're trying to come out from their comfort zone comparing to last season that they just literally spam Veigo/LS, Jinx/Aphe, Naut/Thresh, Jayce
Zeus is so amazing in this Season he can do any champs Tank or Carry Top Champs doesn't problem from him than Khan and Canna who playing Carry Champs and struggling in Tank Champs in Last Season..
Bro you sure about khan?? He one tricked sion last year HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Man Zeus so good
T1 has the best players who each have good champ pools. Their biggest problem is their drafting coach is bad and does not adapt.
Kdf is just making them stronger by teaching these strats bruh
I've been watching lots of T1 vids and notice that all of them hold something like a stress relieving pack like oner at 20:16, anyone knows what those are?
If I am not wrong those are warm packages, so they hands don't get cold while they are not playing.
Kiin is a Monster ngl. One of my favorite Toplaners
HSHAHAHAHAHHA kiin?? Last year's soon to be best top but his sylas with 2k gold lead can't do anything HAHAHAHAHAHHA
I think the Ashe pick is a revenge.
Is senna bad now?
Nah i think its becuz there are a lot of meta counters to senna now but shes still super fine
She's still broken for me, but because there's a lot of mobility broken champs that can easily get closer to Senna in terms of positioning, I'd say she's bad in high elo.
@@mikedanielsapon5865 100% agree
guys it's simple remember how faker got 1v1'd vs a gold player? t1 is too good to understand kdfs mindset this is my copium for whenever T1 loses
T1 won dude
Why do HLE and KDF give T1 trouble?
HLE don't becuz T1 is limit testing, but KDF do becuz they know really well how T1 thinks, especially Teddy know how Keria plays
Caedrel, plz give yoru opinions on Zeus vs TheShy
Zeus is better, he can play weak side
love the content, but please stop the clickbaits
T1 looks like 5 superstar players who are just soo talented that they win purely on individual skills. which is a bad thing cause when they go to worlds, and face teams that has more practiced teamplay, macro, and drafting correctly, they will be at a disadvantage. Kind of reminds me of TES in 2020. They were called the meta-defying team in 2020 because they had superstars players that would just pick comfort and style on other teams in LPL.
Bruh wdym? T1 has one of the best macros in the world rn
Don't base your judgement of a team on one game
@@zeinmets3550 uhh I watch a lot of T1 games and their team play is super uncoordinated. They would just win because a players would win a 2v1 or someone get a monster 5 man ult in a team fight or some shit. Look at MSI final as an example, they were so lost on how to win because they don't have 3 winning lane anymore.
@@faketruth7740 t1 really didn't look uncoordinated in the finals, or the entire tournament for that matter
@@faketruth7740 I think they're 2 steps ahead...... They play this series without early-game macro. They're not only out of their comfort zone in their comp, but also in game strategy, such as a lot of early-game teamfight, which they don't need to do it during Spring season.
Korean has some weird fetish for Kalista. It's really a bad pick in pro. She might be good right now, but pick Kalista and you lose in LCK. It's like Renekton.
#fakerthings
Guma missing so much axe's ,in last teamfight he catch every single axe , ( every axe that draven catches he get healing)
what catching axes doesn't heal lol
yeahhh no he doesnt
Lmao yeah of course, if they'd heal draven it would be perma banned
No offense but I've been watching all the LCK and LPL games and I think LPL's top 3-4 teams are significantly better than LCK's top teams rn. Doesn't even feel close. I think on just T1: Oner, Zeus, maybe Keria are at LPL level but their other laners are a liability.
Source, Trust me bro.
did anyone ever ask for your opinion?
Exactly what everyone said last year pre worlds.Only 2 lpl teams managed to get to playoffs.
You will probably reply EDG won.
It's not the topic.Top 3-4 teams is.
Thank you
@@paskinelaidasani1356 FPX had a lot of internal disorder last year with Tian being unable to play due to his wrist injury and nuguri being inactive in comms or in general. Also if you saw the way the regions were matched up EDG had to play vs a CN team before they played versus DWG which eliminated one of their potential region candidates. That's why some people after seeing EDG vs DWG said the finals were basically EDG vs that CN team since it was more closer even though the stakes were less since it was CN vs CN.
so ur saying, faker is washed up now?
guma really needs to come back in form if t1 wants to win worlds cuz the one thing that's absolutely certain for this team is that faker will choke in high pressure situations
Faker will choke in high pressure situations? The guy with the most international and national championships in LoL history?
@@teddyejendens8072 yeah, he's lost every semis and finals after 2017 because he doesn't have the clutch factor anymore, regional trophies don't count because lck isn't the strongest region anymore, if it was 2015 and skt won lck then they would undeniably be the best team, but not now
@@abirmahmud2242 what kind of ill reasoning is this?
@@abirmahmud2242 doesn’t have the clutch factor? Did you watch msi? Faker literally was breaking both caps and xiaohu’s ankles with akali and leblanc, you must’ve missed the lissandra baron incident as well
@@abirmahmud2242 you can't say he lost every semis AND finals after 2017 since he won't even get to the finals if he lost every semis. If faker doesn't have the clutch factor anymore because he hasn't won an international title for 5 years then what about all the other top pro players who doesn't even have an international title including several great lpl players. I guess faker set the bar too high for himself.
guma's draven is so cursed... he never gets to cash in when he needs it the most
Last game he cashed in a few times
@@Trollthem yeah but in game 1 he died twice before cashing in, and i'm almost certain a few days ago he also had a game where it took him 20+ minutes to get his first kill after 7 or 8 assists
@@noahrocamuhlemann6947 yeah there was one game where he got 1 kill 1min before nexus died🤣. I think it was against DRX but cant remember
i really wanna see what’s Tyler1 reaction to this
it's so weird how T1 starts playing so weirdly low level whenever they go against KDF (afreeca) even in the past and not just here lmao
Imo KDF play quite well in all 3 games while T1 make some big mistakes in Game 1.
@@sjsusbsjsjsj659 It's because teddy and ellim knows how they play, and KDF seems to try only versus T1, cuz T1 is the team to beat
@@Trollthem Yeah weirdly enough KDF doesn't seem to be trying one bit against the other top teams, seems like they have a personal grudge with T1
Kdf play better against t1 then every single other game as well
@@Trollthem If KDF is able to keep this standard against other team, I bet KDF would beat geng or dk.
T1 having hard times whenever they face KDF is that ex-members know T1 too well. (Teddy, Elim & Hoit). They were used to the playstyles, what time they will roam and places for the ward location. Keria is the game changer for T1 but he mostly couldn't perform when facing KDF because Teddy is fully aware of what Keria is going to do.
Can’t really game change on ashe supp ngl
Interesting
Game 2 was insane by Zeus. KDF had like 2 smites (jg and ahri) + kalista rend and still lost baron to Oner cause Zeus did so much by himself in that baron pit.
Kdf play like under steroids against t1 and don t show up almost against all the other teams
I think most T1 member except Faker is still inexperience with this kind of pressure. They probably stress a lot and didn't want to lose to KDF again.
Except zeus lmao
My theory is they cant give a fuck unless they fighting geng
I disagree. This roster has gone to Worlds and MSI. You can't say they're not used to the pressure when they literally went undefeated the entire spring.
@@Geheimnis-c2e Nah only once they've been in world and all of them is under 20 except Faker. Went undefeated meant they are rarely got in trouble, in this case KDF is the one who stop their undefeated too.
@@mukamuka0 i wouldnt say they rarely get into trouble, almost half their matches in spring went to 3 games and they've had a few tough 3 games series this split too
wasn't this game like 3 hours ago or something? damn the content is quick
Teddy Kalista is insane holy f
14:56 "draven can't hit"
draven: hitting someone constantly for past 30seconds
The faker ult in first game on topside might be a setting that I also use...quick cast+self cast...so what happens is that if you want to use a shiled or heal on an ally and your cursor is not on their character, the spell will be self casted...so if I want to use kayle R on a teammate and I miss him I'll use it on myself and troll the game=)))...but it helps a lot when you want to kite or Idk just as a fast way to protect yourself while casting other things on the enemy...it is helpful, but there gwen stopwatched (so she was untargetable) and I think Faker already pressed R so it ended up looking goofy:)))
Those Freecs always have been like that even since SKT T1 dynasty.
KDF in a nutshell.
Game1, styled on T1, game2, Ellin ints it twice in 4mins botside 😂
Inconsistency, but on the brightside, they’ve shown they have SOMETHING there that can compete with one of the best if not the best team in LCK. But inconsistency plagues them.
Este equipo es el unico q le plata cara a t1 por ser ex comperos saben como juegan pero se gano
The Ashe pick is to counter kalista. Keri as thought process is probably that he can make the game almost unplayable for Kalista because her dash is countered by slows and Picking Ashe adc is such low dmg
Dont worry T1 fans this is normal, afreeca freeks always plays t1 the hardest. They have alot of ex t1 players probably know most of their tendencys and play styles better than most especially teddy.
*Guma vs Teddy here is exactly what I wanted to see. Love them both.*
Looks like Keria is watching too much Mr. Earl's stream
KDF has some of the crazy lv1 lv2 strats i have ever seen. they think they can win standar so like any great team they try new stuff but unfortunate skt had a crazy read on game to and game 3 skt stayed diciplined are not scared to a salty run back one of the best serious KDF showed alot of Enginuity.
as much as t1's draft has improved , they still need to work on it a bit
I think it's safe to say now that Guma is overrated. It's seriously all just thanks to his teammates especially his support keria that he's had his pop off moments. Look how many mistakes he's made now that he's playing against a good adc player.
Partially, but I do think he used to be a lot better than this. I wouldn't claim he was 'the best in the world' at any point, but I do think he was really one of the best adcs out there at one point, as questionable as he's looked this year.
@@simone8172 I think it's obvious why he kinda had his great moments in the past. It's mainly due to meta being in his favor, Jinx/Aphelios being op back then certainly helped as those were the only champs he's actually really good at. Also, the lck teams just had their.new rosters and is in the process of building synergies + covid shit affecting other teams especially geng.
28:03 Gumagod failed his ultie on ahri. Didn't touch at all
it was supposed to hit because of gragas r but oner kicked ahri kek
@@xianele2913 thanks for pointing that out Zeus missed his ult too lmao.
T1 trying some surgcal over the top shit.
Oner is the only one who landed his shit and is trying to fix their mistakes.
why was hexflash disabled?
It had a serious bug the day before. Effort's hexflash was disbaled, and DW and KT had to replay that game.
there's a bug with it that caused a lot of issues in DK's match yesterday
ok so no one is going to talk about how the fck did this arrow hit 16:47
I don't know much from a recent player perspective as I don't play anymore, but wouldn't something like Lucian just be a better pick than Draven for just about every aspect? Huge damage, mobility, decent range... the ability to actually get some damage off in these fights where Draven can't even walk up. Just seems weird to pick it 3 games in a row when it doesn't seem to provide a ton of value that you can't get from other champions.
One weakness of lucian in proplay is that he can only go with nami, which is not a very meta sup and lucian nami get clapped by kalista renata or kalista allistar so ….
Lucian isnt very good into kalista draven is better.
Draven scales better than Kalista and can scale really fast with his passive, basically getting her out of the game even earlier. Also in the fights he is hitting the whole time but he was only able to hit who was in front of him, he didn’t want to int his stacks away and lose the chance of getting 1250 gold.
@@tranthekhang2666 Thank you for the insight. How come he can only go with Nami? That's the only way he does real damage or something? Also thanks to all you guys for the input
@@KingJerbear that’s kind of a team comp in which in proplays they practice and yes, lucian NEEDS nami in order to get some real damage, cuz nami will bring electrocute and when she buff him he can deal damage with both runes which is press the attack and electrocute. Just then can he litterally melt down the enemy
Hot take:faker never wins another worlds
Hot Take: No teams or players will win 3 Worlds.
faker just bad
xd L +ratio+L +take