Hi, I am an advanced skier, spending more time on the slopes than outside, 80% to 20%. I like to go down red and all black slopes, some with a lot of moguls. I am 1.83m tall and I weigh 77 kilos. Between Volkl Deacon 80, nordica DOBERMANN SPITFIRE 80 RB FLAT, Head supershape supershape e-rally, Salomon S Force 11 or Atomic Vantage 79 Ti, or another option? Thanks.
All of those skis are great. Definitely some differences among them, but they could all work in theory. The Dobermann is one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, of that group, but that also makes it more demanding in moguls. It works well, but requires a skilled skier. The Deacon 80 and Vantage feel lighter, a little more agile, which can help in bumps, but they don't have as much raw power as the Dobermann. The S/Force and Rally kind of feel like they fall in between those two descriptions... Obviously Rally is a little narrower, but not much. Hope that helps!
How would the Doberman RB compare to the X9 WB? Really wish I could justify the Doberman RB 80 and the Wingman 86 cti. I have been on lots of stocklis this year and they are amazing but not what I would call fun.
please indicate main differences between those skis and Stockil Laser ARs. I'm choosing between them... I'm a carving oriented skier and looking for skis on worse conditions on slopes (I'm normally using 2 pairs of racing skis).
Spitfire 80 feels a little stiffer, arguably a little more powerful too. The Laser AR feels smoother. Slightly softer flex pattern and I think it absorbs variations in the snow surface better.
I just bought the 72 underfoot model of this ski and all i have to say is OMG. Sounds like this model is pretty much the same as the 72 just wider. I know someone who is selling this ski so thinking of buying it as well. I keep skis in different locations so would love to have one of these in each place.
Correct, same build, different shape. You won't quite get the same quickness or grip out of the 80, but pretty close. Keep the 80 in the softer/snowier spot.
Hi,
I am an advanced skier, spending more time on the slopes than outside, 80% to 20%.
I like to go down red and all black slopes, some with a lot of moguls.
I am 1.83m tall and I weigh 77 kilos.
Between Volkl Deacon 80, nordica DOBERMANN SPITFIRE 80 RB FLAT, Head supershape supershape e-rally, Salomon S Force 11 or Atomic Vantage 79 Ti, or another option?
Thanks.
All of those skis are great. Definitely some differences among them, but they could all work in theory. The Dobermann is one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, of that group, but that also makes it more demanding in moguls. It works well, but requires a skilled skier. The Deacon 80 and Vantage feel lighter, a little more agile, which can help in bumps, but they don't have as much raw power as the Dobermann. The S/Force and Rally kind of feel like they fall in between those two descriptions... Obviously Rally is a little narrower, but not much. Hope that helps!
@@SkiEssentials thanks ;)
How would the Doberman RB compare to the X9 WB? Really wish I could justify the Doberman RB 80 and the Wingman 86 cti. I have been on lots of stocklis this year and they are amazing but not what I would call fun.
The X9 WB is easier to ski than the Spitfire 80. More forgiving, doesn't require as much skier input, but not as much raw power as the Spitfire.
please indicate main differences between those skis and Stockil Laser ARs. I'm choosing between them... I'm a carving oriented skier and looking for skis on worse conditions on slopes (I'm normally using 2 pairs of racing skis).
Spitfire 80 feels a little stiffer, arguably a little more powerful too. The Laser AR feels smoother. Slightly softer flex pattern and I think it absorbs variations in the snow surface better.
@@SkiEssentials thanks a lot!
don't tell me that if i love system bindings i'm a shitty bump skier :D. seriously though for air travel it is such a space saver.
Hahaha I'm quite sure that's not what I meant! I just want a pair of these flat with a Pivot 18 ;)
I just bought the 72 underfoot model of this ski and all i have to say is OMG. Sounds like this model is pretty much the same as the 72 just wider. I know someone who is selling this ski so thinking of buying it as well. I keep skis in different locations so would love to have one of these in each place.
Correct, same build, different shape. You won't quite get the same quickness or grip out of the 80, but pretty close. Keep the 80 in the softer/snowier spot.