For context, Toho’s take on Frankenstein’s Monster is actually more or less the same one from the novel, whose apparently immortal heart was discovered by a German scientist, but got confiscated by the Nazis and given to the Japanese to make immortal soldiers (*ya know, standard Nazi stuff*). But then Hiroshima happened and the heart mutated even further, basically making the monster have an exaggerated healing factor, when given sufficient protein (*no, not people, he’s nice to people*). When Sanda and Gaira appear, it’s revealed that bits of Frankenstein’s flesh ended up in the mountains and sea to become the Mountain Frankenstein Sanda and the Sea Frankenstein Gaira, respectively. Sanda was raised by a mountain village and was kind to people, while Gaira was raised by the harsh sea and ate anything with a pulse, including people (*hence why Sanda was forced to fight him*).
Thanks for this recap 😅 to be honest, I didn’t go too deep into studying the lore on these two kaiju - I stopped around the place where I figured they are surely cake tier. But to be fair, I’d say Japanese iteration of Frankenstein monster is very different from the book: original Frankenstein monster was a composite zombie, made up of body parts from different people and reanimated via some unspecified process (usually depicted as electricity-related). It did not have any ability to regenerate his body from his heart, his heart was not that much different from other body parts in origin and importance, and it never was kaiju big.
@@HardCoreSciFi Yeah, that’s the interesting part. In the Showa Godzilla timeline, the monster got incinerated by a mob and all that remained was his still-living heart. Whatever Victor did to that version, he more than succeeded in what he’d originally intended. He didn’t just make a living organism, he made an immortal organism. As for the unknown process, I have this headcanon within the Castlevania franchise (*the games, not the Netflix series*) where I theorize that Victor Frankenstein is a descendant of the iconic Devil Forgemaster known simply as Hector (*i.e., I think Hector is a Frankenstein*). In his game, Curse of Darkness, we see that Devil Forging (*Demon Refining in Japanese*) involves creating artificial monsters, while the Netflix series version is mistaken as necromancy and is basically imbuing corpses with human souls or demons from Hell, thus turning them into monsters or “Night Creatures.” Now tell me, doesn’t that all sound oddly familiar? Why else would Victor so adamantly dodge the subject thrice on how he brought the monster to life? At the time, dark magic was a major no-no, so imagine what would happen if someone got their hands on something that could’ve been unknowingly been passed down thru Victor’s family line. Something beyond their comprehension. Devil Forgemasters are essentially one-man armies, on par with Death (*who’s Dracula’s righthand*), with familiar-like golem-type monsters and powerful custom weapons at their disposal. (*I know that last paragraph was slightly off-topic, but I couldn’t just not mention it. It makes so much sense. 😅*)
Thanks 😅 that is absolutely unintentional, but I agree there is some resemblance - especially with animated Harley Quinn series Bane. And I like the sound of “professor Bane” 😅
I'm glad to see more people talk about King Kong. I'm actually working on my own remake of King Kong called Legend of Kong;King of Skull Island. Where my Skull Island has a wide variety of dinosaurs alongside large bugs. prehistoric mammals brought over by the first generation of natives. And multiple reptiles from the mesozoic to cenozoic from land and sea, along with 6 species of pterosaurs. With it exploring more of the history and biology of Skull Island. I hope to make this project a visual novel first before making into a 2d animated film.
Sounds like you have it all worked out! However, it doesn’t really sound like hard science fiction - I’d say, science fantasy tier at best. There are numerous issues with survival of the dinosaurs, large bugs are kinda impossible since the Carboniferous, and real life humans tend to exterminate, not spread megafauna 🤔
@HardCoreSciFi the dinosaurs and bugs, I haven't gotten an explanation of how they survived and gotten bigger. The human civilization, however, has tamed and formed a symbiotic relationship with the Kong's. They're a sophont species since they create tools, spread information through culture, and can recognize themselves in the mirror along with remembering individuals. The humans, Kong, and other animals they brought over were originally home to a land mass that became atlantis sinking into the ocean. It was through its destruction that they made a new home on Skull Island. With the Kongs helping build the wall and protect their people from the megafauna. Once the first walls and the cities built, they began to expand further in with constructing a second wall, but it would never be complete. The Tyrannosaurs who call Skull Island home are sophont at well, capable of cooperating with 4 to bring down a sauropod or a Kong. Traps set up by humans to combat them, tactics, and new weapons would work at first, but didn't for long. Though they did try to tame and domestiacte the dinosaurs as they did with other species on the original homeland. But most were abandoned when they retracted to the first wall.
@@colonelhammerhead It sounds like a coherent narrative, but again, I concentrate on hard vs. weak science fiction on this channel, and that does not look very hard to me. If you study the timeline of animal domestication, you might notice that for the most part it was either animals that humans either hunted (like sheep, goats, pigs or cows), or hunted the same prey with (like dogs), and gorillas don't really fall into any of these categories. Kong can be hunted, sure, but he is too big to be manageable in captivity - humans tended to exterminate megafauna completely, rather than domesticate it.
That’s a good one 😅 but that continental supergorilla would break so many laws of physics, biology and geography that it would have to be called God Kong or something 😅
I'm *SO* hyped for the eventual Godzilla video, hope to see a pixel of what a fully aquatic goji would look like~! Also thoughts on Kaiju that're not organisms, but machines like mechagodzilla and Jagers, those wouldn't suffer from the square cube law given they're not of neurons, bones, or flesh right (tho still have limitations ofc)?
I’m not getting to Godzilla just straight away, actually - the next video I think I’ll make will be on hollow and other types of unconventional earths 🤔 but when I get to Goji, I’ll make sure to explore all the options! As for mecha and robot kaiju - the square cube law very much applies to them in the same way as it does to organisms, which is why we don’t see many of them around. They will have metal instead of bones, but that metal will still face the same volume/surface ratio issues.
Also i must explain the origin of King Kong 2005 and it’s Skull Island. Megaprimatus Kong ancestors originally lived on the mainland of asia, however, whether through humans bringing them to the island or a land bridge was how they arrived. Quickly, they grew in size as a defense machanism against the V-rex and other predators. Skull Island was far larger in the past, even larger than texas, which with the constant volcanic activity was what allowed the dinosaurs to survive the mass extinction event. However, as time passed, the island began to shrink due to being on the indian, australian continental plate, which with the movement of the continents rapidly sank the island. As more land was lost to the sea, multiple species began to go extinct due to competition with others. Thus put a lot of strain on the kong population. Multiple species began to interbreed and lose their genetic diversity. When the crew of the s.s. venture arrived on the island it was alreqdy a fraction of its former size.
Well, if we speak serious science, that story is kinda inconsistent with what we know about geography and tectonics of the Indian ocean and would require some alternate Earth. Also, if you have a look at the distribution of gorillas (which Kong supposedly came from), you will need to either move the island to Atlantic, or make Kong orangutan-looking, which are actually distributed as far as Asia.
Actually, the kaiju Frankenstein didn't have a mechanical heart ( or get implanted into a boy for that matter) He just had super regenerative healing and grew from the heart of the original Frankenstein monster and in turn, Sanda and Gaira grew out of parts of the kaiju Frankenstein.
My bad, I guess I didn't do thorough research for this one. But for the purposes of this video, to rate sci-fi hardness, it doesn't really change much. Even species as primitive as worms cannot regenerate from just their heart, which still leaves it in cake tier.
@HardCoreSciFi No harm done it's a hard movie to get a hold of legally. Also, you referred to Godzilla as a 'she' when he is male in all but one depiction.. It's not a big deal, but it was going to bother me if I didn't mention it.
@@ShinKaijuPrince thanks for the comment 😀 I’m all for more precision in my research. When I’ll get to my video on Godzilla, I will certainly pay attention to its gender issues as well.
@HardCoreSciFi just to clarify further, the one female Godzilla(1998) is still referred to as he in the film and is only female on the basis that it can reproduce through parthenogenesis and to do that it needs to be female.
@@ShinKaijuPrince yeah, well, that was actually the very first Godzilla movie I saw, and for sentimental reasons it's still my favorite (I'm aware that it's not a very popular opinion 😅) so that's probably why I used to think of Godzilla as a "she".
Rainforest soils are continually washed out by rains, and are actually very poor in nutrients. I guess 30 meters is as high as they can go 🤷🏻 redwood, on the other hand, provides much less berries, fruits and nuts than rainforest, so a giant local primate wouldn’t be interested in bending them down so much and would look for an easier source of food 🤔
Great video! One small thing regarding a choice of word early on at 1:30. I’m not sure if this was your intent but “retarded” is considered a slur against people with mental disabilities and is very rarely used to mean slowed or hindered anymore in English. I know this isn’t the case in most other languages with equivalent words but it’s definitely a word I avoid at all costs hahaha
I'm not a native English speaker (although I'm aware of the connotation of that word), what other term would you use in this situation to describe the effect? He's not saying the animal becomes r**rded, he's saying the nervous system has to deal with a retardation in signal arrival. I cannot think of a synonym other than "lag", but that's not a scientific term by any means.
I didn't mean to offend any peoples. It was in the context of nervous system, and in latin, 'tardus' is slow, and I sometimes slip to latin when I speak of anatomy 😅
@@HardCoreSciFi hey you’re fine man I’m not personally offended or anything, I totally get the confusion. Just thought it would be helpful. from one language learner to another :) I looked it up and I don’t see much recent usage of the term retarded with regard to nerves, save for a 2001 paper. I assume there’s some other term in use.
a kong 5.3 meters tall may be reasonable, but it would make even more sense to give kong the measurments of the 1933 allosaurus, or the 3 meters of a gigantopithecus.
Yeah, 3 meters would be totally diamond-tier. That, and also he can't come from an island - I guess Kong would make much more sense in continental Africa.
Worshipping quarry animals is not a mutually exclusive thing. Look at the religious reverence people have in shamanstic cultures around the world for various animals. Even the ones they eat. Sometimes even more so since without those animals, they'd starve. Ex: Plains Tribes of North America and their reverence for the American Bison.
That is very fair. However there are no more tribes that worship giant sloths, mammoths, woolly rhinoceros, sivatheriums, diprotodons etc. I guess bison was just lucky in being not so big 🤔
For context, Toho’s take on Frankenstein’s Monster is actually more or less the same one from the novel, whose apparently immortal heart was discovered by a German scientist, but got confiscated by the Nazis and given to the Japanese to make immortal soldiers (*ya know, standard Nazi stuff*). But then Hiroshima happened and the heart mutated even further, basically making the monster have an exaggerated healing factor, when given sufficient protein (*no, not people, he’s nice to people*). When Sanda and Gaira appear, it’s revealed that bits of Frankenstein’s flesh ended up in the mountains and sea to become the Mountain Frankenstein Sanda and the Sea Frankenstein Gaira, respectively. Sanda was raised by a mountain village and was kind to people, while Gaira was raised by the harsh sea and ate anything with a pulse, including people (*hence why Sanda was forced to fight him*).
Thanks for this recap 😅 to be honest, I didn’t go too deep into studying the lore on these two kaiju - I stopped around the place where I figured they are surely cake tier.
But to be fair, I’d say Japanese iteration of Frankenstein monster is very different from the book: original Frankenstein monster was a composite zombie, made up of body parts from different people and reanimated via some unspecified process (usually depicted as electricity-related). It did not have any ability to regenerate his body from his heart, his heart was not that much different from other body parts in origin and importance, and it never was kaiju big.
@@HardCoreSciFi Yeah, that’s the interesting part. In the Showa Godzilla timeline, the monster got incinerated by a mob and all that remained was his still-living heart. Whatever Victor did to that version, he more than succeeded in what he’d originally intended. He didn’t just make a living organism, he made an immortal organism.
As for the unknown process, I have this headcanon within the Castlevania franchise (*the games, not the Netflix series*) where I theorize that Victor Frankenstein is a descendant of the iconic Devil Forgemaster known simply as Hector (*i.e., I think Hector is a Frankenstein*). In his game, Curse of Darkness, we see that Devil Forging (*Demon Refining in Japanese*) involves creating artificial monsters, while the Netflix series version is mistaken as necromancy and is basically imbuing corpses with human souls or demons from Hell, thus turning them into monsters or “Night Creatures.” Now tell me, doesn’t that all sound oddly familiar? Why else would Victor so adamantly dodge the subject thrice on how he brought the monster to life? At the time, dark magic was a major no-no, so imagine what would happen if someone got their hands on something that could’ve been unknowingly been passed down thru Victor’s family line. Something beyond their comprehension. Devil Forgemasters are essentially one-man armies, on par with Death (*who’s Dracula’s righthand*), with familiar-like golem-type monsters and powerful custom weapons at their disposal.
(*I know that last paragraph was slightly off-topic, but I couldn’t just not mention it. It makes so much sense. 😅*)
Yay, more fun educational lessons with cool pixel-based artstyle from professor Bane! (love how that's who your voice reminds me of, lol)
Thanks 😅 that is absolutely unintentional, but I agree there is some resemblance - especially with animated Harley Quinn series Bane. And I like the sound of “professor Bane” 😅
I'm glad to see more people talk about King Kong. I'm actually working on my own remake of King Kong called Legend of Kong;King of Skull Island.
Where my Skull Island has a wide variety of dinosaurs alongside large bugs. prehistoric mammals brought over by the first generation of natives.
And multiple reptiles from the mesozoic to cenozoic from land and sea, along with 6 species of pterosaurs.
With it exploring more of the history and biology of Skull Island.
I hope to make this project a visual novel first before making into a 2d animated film.
Sounds like you have it all worked out! However, it doesn’t really sound like hard science fiction - I’d say, science fantasy tier at best. There are numerous issues with survival of the dinosaurs, large bugs are kinda impossible since the Carboniferous, and real life humans tend to exterminate, not spread megafauna 🤔
@HardCoreSciFi the dinosaurs and bugs, I haven't gotten an explanation of how they survived and gotten bigger.
The human civilization, however, has tamed and formed a symbiotic relationship with the Kong's.
They're a sophont species since they create tools, spread information through culture, and can recognize themselves in the mirror along with remembering individuals.
The humans, Kong, and other animals they brought over were originally home to a land mass that became atlantis sinking into the ocean.
It was through its destruction that they made a new home on Skull Island. With the Kongs helping build the wall and protect their people from the megafauna.
Once the first walls and the cities built, they began to expand further in with constructing a second wall, but it would never be complete.
The Tyrannosaurs who call Skull Island home are sophont at well, capable of cooperating with 4 to bring down a sauropod or a Kong.
Traps set up by humans to combat them, tactics, and new weapons would work at first, but didn't for long.
Though they did try to tame and domestiacte the dinosaurs as they did with other species on the original homeland. But most were abandoned when they retracted to the first wall.
@@colonelhammerhead It sounds like a coherent narrative, but again, I concentrate on hard vs. weak science fiction on this channel, and that does not look very hard to me. If you study the timeline of animal domestication, you might notice that for the most part it was either animals that humans either hunted (like sheep, goats, pigs or cows), or hunted the same prey with (like dogs), and gorillas don't really fall into any of these categories. Kong can be hunted, sure, but he is too big to be manageable in captivity - humans tended to exterminate megafauna completely, rather than domesticate it.
@@HardCoreSciFi by the way, would be cool to see a video about Lost Worlds where dinosaurus and other prehistoric creatures survived
@@Mr.W.Megalodon.I am actually planning to do that one day, as well as I have some other prehistoric-themed video ideas 😀
But what if Kong IS a dwarf version of an EVEN BIGGERER mainland ape that has since gone extinct? 😮
That’s a good one 😅 but that continental supergorilla would break so many laws of physics, biology and geography that it would have to be called God Kong or something 😅
@@HardCoreSciFi we found our next movie, boys!
I'm *SO* hyped for the eventual Godzilla video, hope to see a pixel of what a fully aquatic goji would look like~! Also thoughts on Kaiju that're not organisms, but machines like mechagodzilla and Jagers, those wouldn't suffer from the square cube law given they're not of neurons, bones, or flesh right (tho still have limitations ofc)?
I’m not getting to Godzilla just straight away, actually - the next video I think I’ll make will be on hollow and other types of unconventional earths 🤔 but when I get to Goji, I’ll make sure to explore all the options! As for mecha and robot kaiju - the square cube law very much applies to them in the same way as it does to organisms, which is why we don’t see many of them around. They will have metal instead of bones, but that metal will still face the same volume/surface ratio issues.
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Also i must explain the origin of King Kong 2005 and it’s Skull Island.
Megaprimatus Kong ancestors originally lived on the mainland of asia, however, whether through humans bringing them to the island or a land bridge was how they arrived.
Quickly, they grew in size as a defense machanism against the V-rex and other predators.
Skull Island was far larger in the past, even larger than texas, which with the constant volcanic activity was what allowed the dinosaurs to survive the mass extinction event.
However, as time passed, the island began to shrink due to being on the indian, australian continental plate, which with the movement of the continents rapidly sank the island.
As more land was lost to the sea, multiple species began to go extinct due to competition with others. Thus put a lot of strain on the kong population. Multiple species began to interbreed and lose their genetic diversity.
When the crew of the s.s. venture arrived on the island it was alreqdy a fraction of its former size.
Well, if we speak serious science, that story is kinda inconsistent with what we know about geography and tectonics of the Indian ocean and would require some alternate Earth. Also, if you have a look at the distribution of gorillas (which Kong supposedly came from), you will need to either move the island to Atlantic, or make Kong orangutan-looking, which are actually distributed as far as Asia.
01:20. What about the hollowing out of bones and compression of more cells into muscles that rl giant animals have, past and present?
I kinda spoke on that in my video on kaiju - if a creature wants to be really big in terrestrial setting, it kinda needs to be bird or dinosaur
Actually, the kaiju Frankenstein didn't have a mechanical heart ( or get implanted into a boy for that matter) He just had super regenerative healing and grew from the heart of the original Frankenstein monster and in turn, Sanda and Gaira grew out of parts of the kaiju Frankenstein.
My bad, I guess I didn't do thorough research for this one. But for the purposes of this video, to rate sci-fi hardness, it doesn't really change much. Even species as primitive as worms cannot regenerate from just their heart, which still leaves it in cake tier.
@HardCoreSciFi No harm done it's a hard movie to get a hold of legally. Also, you referred to Godzilla as a 'she' when he is male in all but one depiction.. It's not a big deal, but it was going to bother me if I didn't mention it.
@@ShinKaijuPrince thanks for the comment 😀 I’m all for more precision in my research. When I’ll get to my video on Godzilla, I will certainly pay attention to its gender issues as well.
@HardCoreSciFi just to clarify further, the one female Godzilla(1998) is still referred to as he in the film and is only female on the basis that it can reproduce through parthenogenesis and to do that it needs to be female.
@@ShinKaijuPrince yeah, well, that was actually the very first Godzilla movie I saw, and for sentimental reasons it's still my favorite (I'm aware that it's not a very popular opinion 😅) so that's probably why I used to think of Godzilla as a "she".
09:20. Why don't we see rainforest trees the height of redwoods? The rainforest forces trees to grow tall to survive against its competition.
Rainforest soils are continually washed out by rains, and are actually very poor in nutrients. I guess 30 meters is as high as they can go 🤷🏻 redwood, on the other hand, provides much less berries, fruits and nuts than rainforest, so a giant local primate wouldn’t be interested in bending them down so much and would look for an easier source of food 🤔
amazing content bro
Thanks! I’m trying to do my best 😀
Great video! One small thing regarding a choice of word early on at 1:30. I’m not sure if this was your intent but “retarded” is considered a slur against people with mental disabilities and is very rarely used to mean slowed or hindered anymore in English. I know this isn’t the case in most other languages with equivalent words but it’s definitely a word I avoid at all costs hahaha
I'm not a native English speaker (although I'm aware of the connotation of that word), what other term would you use in this situation to describe the effect? He's not saying the animal becomes r**rded, he's saying the nervous system has to deal with a retardation in signal arrival. I cannot think of a synonym other than "lag", but that's not a scientific term by any means.
I didn't mean to offend any peoples. It was in the context of nervous system, and in latin, 'tardus' is slow, and I sometimes slip to latin when I speak of anatomy 😅
@@HardCoreSciFi hey you’re fine man I’m not personally offended or anything, I totally get the confusion. Just thought it would be helpful. from one language learner to another :) I looked it up and I don’t see much recent usage of the term retarded with regard to nerves, save for a 2001 paper. I assume there’s some other term in use.
Im autistic and i use the word retarded all the time, its just a word man
a kong 5.3 meters tall may be reasonable, but it would make even more sense to give kong the measurments of the 1933 allosaurus, or the 3 meters of a gigantopithecus.
Yeah, 3 meters would be totally diamond-tier. That, and also he can't come from an island - I guess Kong would make much more sense in continental Africa.
Worshipping quarry animals is not a mutually exclusive thing. Look at the religious reverence people have in shamanstic cultures around the world for various animals. Even the ones they eat. Sometimes even more so since without those animals, they'd starve. Ex: Plains Tribes of North America and their reverence for the American Bison.
That is very fair. However there are no more tribes that worship giant sloths, mammoths, woolly rhinoceros, sivatheriums, diprotodons etc. I guess bison was just lucky in being not so big 🤔