NEW Eve Motion Blinds - HomeKit Smart Shades with THREAD!
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- The Eve MotionBlinds are the first smart shades on the market to support Thread for HomeKit. I'll unbox, install, and set them up in my smart home. They are available today worldwide.
Eve MotionBlinds: motionblinds.com/eve
OmniaBlinds: omniablinds.com
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:56 About Eve
2:00 Thread & Matter
2:37 Eve & Coulisse Partnership
3:14 Availability & Styles
3:50 OmniaBlinds
4:12 Price
4:25 Battery & Other Features
5:21 Fabric Options
6:01 Customizing Your Order
6:24 What's in the Box?
6:40 Installation
7:15 Charging
7:50 Setup in Eve App
8:24 Manual Setup
8:44 Pull Cord
9:01 Connecting via Thread
9:35 First Impressions
10:07 Comparisons (Ikea & Lutron)
12:13 Working in HomeKit
12:57 Final Thoughts
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How much does the blackout shade actually black out? Any leakage around the edges or top?
Thanks Shane. Great review. Appreciate you enthusiasm, big picture, small details, honesty and quality of your videos.
Thanks Tony! Appreciate the kind words.
Hi Shane! Thanks for saving me hours of research to find Eve Motion blinds. I’ve ordered 5 of them from Omniablinds and love their customer connection. Our free samples were a very good idea. We switched from translucent to blackout.
Shane... I just wanna let you know, each time you release a video... it seems to be what I'm looking for, with my smart home Im planning. Thank you so much for this.
Thanks Sean! I'm glad the videos are helpful. 😃
I just ordered these for my new house for the entire house. I am stoked to get them!
With Thread, not being able to synchronize shades is silly. Nice, thorough review! TY.
Thanks for the great review Shane, love your content. I’ve been waiting for these since Q2 last year, so I was pretty excited when I got the email saying they are now available for order. Got my swatches (your samples are a lot bigger than mine!) and was going to order today, so your review came literally just in the nick time!
That's great, thanks for watching Julian. I hope you enjoy your new shades!
@@ShaneCreates I am! Bit of drama getting them all working though. One blind had a DOA motor (replacement motor arrived this week; turns out there is a homekit code on the motor itself and not just on the pull cord), one I had to get some special instructions to get them paired to homekit to get the top/limits working properly, a couple more required a bit of pairing/re-pairing to get them working, but I've now got 11 shades all online and working. They can take up to 5s to respond (due to thread sleep time) but they haven't missed a beat!
Great review Shane! These look awesome and happy to see Eve introduce thread enabled Smart blinds! 👏🏼
Thanks for watching Brad!
Been so excited since the announcement! currently have non-homekit version and they have been amazing, excited to see the home kit version, Great video!
Thanks Josh!
Man you make me want the lutron shades for the living room. I like Eves offering as well eve is pushing forward with the tech.
I’ve been waiting for these!
These are slick. I could see your excitement for sure on this product. I wish I had a window for one of these.
Thanks Shane for the revie I’ve been hoping that Eve would bring out some shades can’t wait for them too be available in the uk 👍
This is so Cool !!! Thanks Shane !!!
I remembered in one of your videos you taught us how to convert a remote button into shortcuts and that really helped me make the most of my Aqara wireless remotes. Thank you very much!
Very cool, thanks for your comment. I'm glad it was helpful!
Great video. Very informative. And very clear to listen to. Thanks so much!
Thanks for watching!
This product is amazing!!
Yep. Will be including these in our HomeKit home using the Venetian blind option when they are available. Thanks Shane!… Now about the new Eve Outdoor camera… anxiously waiting until April!
Nice! Yea it's awesome that they will have different styles available like the Venetian style. Thanks for watching Chuck!
WE NEED TO SEE THAT VIDEO! Excited to hear about the new food light camera.
Thanks Brian!
Thanks Shane for a great review on EVE Motion Blinds! I like EVE products because I feel they are NOT monitoring me or tracking my personal info like other smart devices companies do out there, also their products are very easy to set up and use. And YES Please, I would love to know more about EVE security cam!
Thanks for the comment!
Very interesting product, although they seem very slow to react. I’m currently using the IKEA blinds which can be grouped and reacts immediately and in decent sync (within 1-2 inches).
Very good video and relevant comparisons. Thanks. It seems lutron is still the king if you have the money to spend.
Nice job as usual Shane.
Thanks Gregg!
Great review as usual Shane. :)
Thanks Brad!
Absolutely! Please review the new Eve Flood Camera 😃
Very exciting new product, thank you for doing a video on this! Please do a video on that floodlight camera if you get an opportunity, that is a definite product I am interested in checking out.
Thanks Nathan!
Great job. I will love a review of the outdoor cam. Best
Thanks!
Well done Shame. I see this these shades as a “game changer”. EVE also has reliable products. I also like the rechargeable batteries with these shades.
Thanks for watching Doug!
@@ShaneCreates I always do Shane……. “🇨🇦”
Nice recommendation! Looking forward to the camera review too.
Thanks for watching!
(talking about shades in sync) "Is that feature worth twice the cost...." Yes...yes it is. :) I look forward to my bank of window shads all moving at exactly the same time and speed which is why I'm going Lutron. Absolutely love Eve products and have quite a few but for shades I'll go Lutron.
Lutron builds bomb proof never fails items. You can’t go wrong with lutron.
It is a nice feature for sure. I understand for some it's worth the extra cost. For others, maybe not. Either way... it's good to have options! 😃
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Not worth it to me for syncing. Looks like maybe with automations they come close…. Thanks for the review!
I do trust eve with software updates though. We will just have to wait and see if they get the syncing issue fixed soon or not.
Nice vid! Will the blinds still work if left plugged in? Love that Thread is growing and nice to see more smart shades are growing in general and pricing is getting cheaper.
Thanks for watching! Yes, the shades will still work when plugged in.
Yes, it's worth the extra cost. I like the lutron blinds.
Shane, great video as always. When you said you were going to release a video this week instead of Sunday, I didn't realize you meant the next day! I thought we were going to have to wait several days before this posted. Glad to see you got it out so quickly. Looking forward to another video in the future to let us know the long-term review of these shade and how they have held up against your Lutron shades.
I am a bit surprised by how long it was taking from the time you pressed the button on your phone, until the time the motor actually started moving. That was like BluTooth speed. Is there a delay when you use the manual pull cord?
Also, could you do a sound comparison using a sound meter and show the difference in dB comparing Lutron, Eve, and Ikea shade motors? And any others if you have them. It would be nice to know exactly what the difference was in the amount of noise each motor makes.
Thanks Frederick! No, there is not a delay when using the pull cord. And yes, there is a bit of a delay sometimes when using HomeKit. It's not terrible and sometimes it's faster and sometimes a little slower. I wanted to include that clip just to show that.
And thanks for the suggestion. I don't have the ikea shades anymore (returned them a long time ago). But a sound meter test for what I do have is a good idea.
I don't understand how the cost can justify the price. $600 for a piece of fabric, a roller, a motor, a controller, a battery and mounting brackets. It must cost them $80 to produce
Great video, thanks. I want to install this motor but do not have a thread border router yet (neither HomePod nor Apple TV). Will I be able to integrate it in homekit or would the missing border router be an issue? Thanks for your feedback.
Omg they look awesome. I do like Eve also. Australia 🇦🇺 here so I’ll have to investigate wether we can get them here.
They do. I’ve already ordered and received my swatches (took a bit over a week to deliver)
Awesome review as always Shane! I'm already on the website looking at options for my house. I just wish someone would come up with a solution to close the gap on the sides (between the blind and the wall) to make it 100% dark (similar to the European blinds)
Thanks Richi. I have seen some side channels or tracks out there for sale that you can install to help with this. I haven't used any before, but I'm interested. Might be worth looking into.
6 month update? I am seriously considering these and would like to see how they have done for you after several months of use.
Still working just fine. Everything is the same as it was in the video.
Is there any tips for placing multiple smarthome hub (like minimum distance between each hub) to minimize the zigbee signal interference between hubs?
Thanks man for the continued HomeKit support! Got a question can you do a video on the router you use in your house. I love homekit and have a lot of the devices but man my experience isn’t as good as yours. I’d like to mimic your Wi-Fi environment
Thanks for watching! I did a video about 10 months ago on routers. I'm still currently using the Linksys Velop mentioned in this video: ruclips.net/video/1wtCqKm-uPU/видео.html
Hope it helps!
That is huge that the Lutron shades can move in sync with each other. It seems like Eve should be able to do the same though.
How long will the batteries last until replacement? Do you need to buy rollers? Or can the battery be replaced itself?
Excellent review Shane. How loud is the motor compared to the SOMA Tilt?
It's comparable. The Eve shades are probably slightly quieter, if anything. That's compared to the Soma Tilt 2 standard mode (not morning mode, which is very quiet, but very slow).
Any idea if we will be getting cellular shades with thread anytime soon?
Hi Shane. Nice video. Question: Can multiple phones be programmed to control the Eve blinds? My wife programmed hers and unsure if I can program mine.
Great video, Shane! Please give us an update down the road, as to reliability, etc.
Thread is intriguing to me, but I’m feeling rather gun shy about it now. I wanted to love my Nanoleaf bulbs & lightstrips, but they keep losing their Thread connection. When this happens, they revert to Bluetooth, which is sooooo slow. For some reason, last night, all 12 of my Nanoleaf’s switched over to Bluetooth. When I hit my bedtime scene, it took over 2 1/2 minutes to respond, just to turn off the bedroom lamps. This was the same whether through Home app or Nanoleaf app. Sigh….
I’m really hoping that other Thread devices / manufacturers can do better.
Thanks for watching. I will certainly provide some updates down the road. Sorry to hear of your troubles with the Nanoleaf lights.
Will these work without a hub to connect to the apple Hone app on an iPhone? And is there a charge for that connectivity?
Hi Shane. Great review... and perfect timing as I am in the process of replacing all of the 100+ year old windows in my house and will need new window treatments. That said, one thing you didn't seem to cover was actual manual control. The physical control (pull cord) seems to instruct the motor, but what happens if the motor stops working you discover you forgot to recharge because it stopped--and you want to raise or lower your shades? (or is that when you would use the mounting tabs to remove the shade until repair is effected?)
Hey Dan. There isn't another way to control the shades. Just the pull cord and using the app or homekit. You can still use the shades when it's plugged in as long as you can reach an outlet.
@@ShaneCreates Thanks
How loud are they? Follow up video showing how long they take to go up + down, and noise level?
Hi Shane! Wondering i'm looking for a review on the Eve Motion Bling upgrade kit and can't find any. Anything you can share or heard about this upgrade kit?
Hi Shane, I heard that the eve motion upgrade kit will be coming in March 2023, do you have any details? I am about to get some roller blinds and wanted to check I will need to cut the roller when fitting the upgrade kit or if it will be same size as the original? Cheers Jag
Shane can you get a valance for these? If so it would look more finished. Wished I had known of these before installing HD shades. Thanks
Hey Richard. I did not see any options for a valance on the OmniaBlinds site.
Picked up a pair of these and they are great, quick question though any suggestion on a smart dimmer switch to control them. Would like something that I can stick on the wall anywhere and not need to hardwire in. I saw a Lutron that might work but I dont have any other Lutron accessories and wouldnt want to get an extra hub just for that.
I'd recommend any homekit smart button. No dimmer, so you can adjust the slider, but you could do open, close, halfway, etc. pretty easily.
What would you recommend for just the roller motor?
Great Video as always Shane. unfortunately not yet available in Canada but hope soon.
The company posted in the comments here that they ship worldwide, for free.
Thanks for watching! OmniaBlinds claims to ship worldwide. Maybe they ship to Canada also?
I really looking fower to those outdoor cams, n it stats, I level in the North East n we get up to -30*F to 100*F here n I have been consideration Euffe do to their cam resolution n Nightvision but that would be a new hub. Plus the light it will make things a lot better, just hope there are super expensive n that they can be attached to Solar power for easy installation.
For those that don't have an outlet that is close enough to recharge, would a basic portable usb battery (like 10,000mah) be enough to just plug it in for the 6 hours or so?
I would imagine so. Good idea.
Nice! Is there an option to buy this without the fabric? I would be nice to use the fabric from my existing shades. Thank you for the great video!
I'm not sure if you'll be able to find just the motor. I don't think it's possible through OmniaBlinds. I think Eve's intent is to provide the complete package vs. just the motor like others.
@@ShaneCreates Thank you for replying!.
Damm. Nice.
I like these very much. Just like you I’m really fond of the Lutron shades, but they’re a bit too expensive for my taste. These Eves come in perfectly in the middle. Thanks for this video, Shane.
Thanks for watching Tom!
@@ShaneCreates great review as always. Quick question are you having delay issues with your Nanoleaf a19 bulbs in homekit?? Mine are now always saying updating and take forever to turn on.
@@xaviera8761 My NanoLeafs (bulbs and light strips) have same issues. I’ve had numerous issues with them dumping themselves off Thread, over to Bluetooth, which makes them painfully slow. I’m getting ready to remove them all from my home - $$$ down the drain, but I’m not going to keep them if they suck this much. I’ve given them 3-4 months and spent too much time with resets and gnashing of teeth.
As I posted elsewhere on this video - 2 1/2 + minutes just to respond in order to turn off bedroom lamps last night. Hope Eve does Thread better.
@@xaviera8761 I have three of the A19 bulbs and no issues in owning them for nearly a year now.
@@mmaxton same issues for me.
How’s the window gap on the sides compared to Lutron? Looks a little bigger, letting more light in
I'm not sure what the light gaps are with Lutron, but with Coulisse shades it's 18mm (3/4"") on the motor side and 12mm (1/2"") on the opposite end (idle end).
My MotionBlinds CMD-02 dont connect to Alexa. I use the WiFi MiniBridge. The Alexa Skill is aktivated and connected. With the Motion app i can control the motors. Alexa and the Wi-Fi Bridge are in the same WLAN. I use the echo Dot generation 2. I have tried to contact their support but have not received a response. Can someone help?
Id like to see the Eve flood light. Is it battery or wired. I’m looking for an outdoor flood light that’s wired with a camera for HomeKit.
Thanks Thomas! The power specs for the outdoor camera are: AC 100-240 V, 50/60 Hz.
I'll try to get one and share more details when possible.
Maybe not an Eve specific question but is there a way to partially adjust blinds with shortcut that will adjust based on an offset from sunset (I.e. an hour or two before sunset when the sun is beaming through your windows)
Great question
Hey Eric, you can setup automations like that natively in the Home app (without going to shortcuts). When creating a new “time of day” automation, you can tap the “i” icon next to sunrise or sunset to adjust an offset time frame. Then just choose your shades and set them to the desired position.
How is the sound compared to Lutron Serena?
These blinds look very but are there other styles of blinds that are compatible to Apple HomeKit like curtain style blinds you can recommend?
Have you seen my recent video on HomeKit curtain bots? ruclips.net/video/trkGR7QlwTU/видео.html
Does the charging port position stay the same? Can you use the blinds while charging? Id like to install those blinds at my upper windows in one room and they start at around 3.5 meters. I'd rather install a socket there and have them powered permanently than charging from time to time.
Yes you should be able to do that.
can you use a power bank to charge them?
Any update on battery life? Did you charge it since you post this video?
The battery is reading 100% right now in the Eve app and in the Home app. Which doesn't make much sense. I use them almost every day. I don't think I've had to recharge them yet, since making the video.
Could you recommend any shades that are compatible with HomeKit and are fully blackout?
For instance, on those you can still see light from the sides.
The light leak on the sides is simply a result of inside-mounted shades. You will get this with any shades. You can buy light blockers that attach to the sides of the windows that will cover this. Many shade manufacturers offer this as an option when you order your shades. I know Smart Wings does, among others. I recently made a video on Smart Wings shades also.
@@ShaneCreates thank you!
I'm actually thinking of mounting mine inside the walls (I'm completely rebuilding my apartment). Which shades would you recommend for that scenario? My main needs are compatibility with HomeKit and making the room completely black (even during day time). It would also be nice to have two options, total blackout and regular shades that let some light in, though I'm not sure that exists (unless I install two shades in the same window).
Is the new outdoor camera PoE? Yes do a review
Thanks. No, it’s not PoE
Do the eve shades work when using an Ipad as my hub?
They will work, but they won’t be able to utilize Thread. They will connect over bluetooth, which will probably be a bit slower.
@@ShaneCreates Thanks. Do you think it is possible that the Ipad will be able to work with Thread in the future?
I am finding it challenging to get these in USA, any recommendations?
Omniablinds and SelectBlinds both should be able to ship to the US
There seems to be a big delay when you activated them via HomeKit?
It was a few seconds versus instantaneous. That seemed like if connected via Bluetooth and not Thread.
Can you confirm?
They are indeed connected via thread.
@@ShaneCreates Yeah, I saw you mentioned it as listed in the EVE app, but man that does not seem like a thread connection with such delay, would you agree?
@@geek2330 the delay could be in the device itself.
Moving the blinds in sync should be doable with a software update. But will they do it?
That would be an awesome firmware update.
Wow they are not cheap
What color did you choose?
I chose the Barcelona Blackout WHITE
They don't move in sync? That seems like an easy fix...
Does it support matter now?
Yes
Ohh
No valance option? The exposed roller would be a deal killer for me.
There are but it depends on where you get the shades from. Eve MotionBlinds are sold through various distributers.
If anyone can help me find where to buy these in the UK or a company that will ship to the UK regardless of price please!!
OnmiaBlinds ships worldwide apparently. And if not, try looking at the store locator linked in the description.
A shade, that blocks THE SUN, needs to be recharged by a cable instead of by a solar panel?
The list of items to buy for my next house is now longer...
Any plans to offer the standalone device for those of us that don’t want the entire shade purchase $350, but want to utilize thread with blinds of our own, with this iot hardware/motor??? Thanks! Affiliate links if possible would be great!
Hey Bradley, I haven't heard of anywhere selling just the motors. From my understanding, Eve's intent was to offer the full package for customers. Not sure if they'll offer just the motor. I put links in the video description where you can search for distributers in your area (no affiliate links for this). Thanks for the support tho!
$318 for window blind motors that don't work in sync... compared to Lutrons, that do?
Yep. But you could easily pay double that for a single Lutron shade. So it just depends on budget and what it's worth.
Did I miss a mention about the volume of the motor? Seems like an important topic he missed… unless I did.
He did mention the noise the motors made. Not as quiet as Lutron but quieter than Ikea. I just wished he had done a sound level measurement of all three motors and posted that result so we could see exact measurements instead of subjective sound levels.
I briefly discussed the sound around 11:51 in the "comparison" section.
An Eve camera…. Could a doorbell be not far behind?
That would make me very happy.
Can’t recommend this. I bought 3 of them and had only issues with it so far.
One of them had some issues that prevents it from being controlled via the app. Hard reset was not going through either.
The replacement blinds had the same issue, however I was able to fix/reset them with an undocumented reset trick (pulling cord + pressing reset button at the same time) provided by the reseller.
Now one of the working blinds went into the same buggy state so it can’t be controlled via app, hard reset does not succeed and the special reset trick does not fix it either.
Expensive garbage.
Eve claims there are no known issues but then again they also claimed there was no other way to reset the blinds.
So thread isn’t the future? Wtf why did they hype that up and offer so much just to change it again?
Thread is a wireless communication using radio frequencies like WiFi, BluTooth, Zigbee, Z-Wave, ClearConnect, and so forth. These are the communication frequencies used to communicate between devices. Matter is the software protocol that allows the devices to understand each other. Think of it as Thread is your Cell Phone that allows you to call other users. Matter is the language that you use to talk to each other. I may be speaking English, but if you can only understand French, then even though you have called me on your cell phone, we cannot understand each other. Matter is supposed to be a universal language that will allow products from many different vendors to "understand" each other and to play together regardless of which wireless communication you use to reach those devices. So Thread is an important foundation part of the Matter Protocol.
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Roller shades….
Sounds heavily sponsored to me
It's not. If it was, I would have said so at the beginning of the video.
Looked at the price and went....errr....no thanks.
It’s 2022, right? As far as the Eve blinds go - forcing the consumer to “find a store” instead of purchasing online is a HUGE mistake. They’re only available in the USA on one site - selectblinds. And there’s no pricing. Again, it’s 2022 Eve. Have your own online store. And be transparent on pricing. NEXT
They are available from OmniaBlinds in the US as well, which I linked in the description. Eve has an online store for all their other products, but they are selling the blinds through Coulisse resellers so that customers can purchase the complete package, custom and made to order.
@@ShaneCreates thanks Shane. Sounds expensive! ;)